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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:57 pm
by laurenesque
Oh, fangirl in me is happy that Db still has feelings of Bree. The truth always comes out with the alcohol.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:00 pm
by Aithne
The addicts defense: Attack when confronted.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:21 pm
by Lurker
lord_lunaris wrote:DB needs to shit or get off the pot.

By which I mean that I'm of the opinion that he just needs to cut the drinking, come out all guns blazing, and force Bree to make a decision. She's been toying with these guys for too long now. I'm sure DB would win if he threw down the gauntlet and said "Him or me."
Orrrr she might look at him like "Huh? What are you talking about?"

I've not seen a Dawson/Joey/Pacey thing going on here. Thank God it never came to that.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:28 pm
by Chelseyrl
Lurker wrote:I've not seen a Dawson/Joey/Pacey thing going on here. Thank God it never came to that.
Yeah... seriously. That would've been so typical of them to do that. :smt078

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:04 pm
by islandlove
aww i feel bad for daniel

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:05 pm
by watching_watchers
islandlove wrote:aww i feel bad for daniel
Don't we all? :cry:

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:32 pm
by PixieSailor
I had tears in my eyes watching this.
There are a lot of problems to sort through, but I really do hope that we only have 2 vids more MAX on working on the alcohol problem. After that they can move on with the plot and just mention how it's going here and there.


And. I know it was mentioned once or twice, but Yousef's acting was ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:39 pm
by watching_watchers
PixieSailor wrote:I had tears in my eyes watching this.
There are a lot of problems to sort through, but I really do hope that we only have 2 vids more MAX on working on the alcohol problem. After that they can move on with the plot and just mention how it's going here and there.


And. I know it was mentioned once or twice, but Yousef's acting was ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.
Yeah, it was. So was Jonas's yelling. ^_^

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:55 pm
by imogene2004
I hope this does it to sober Daniel up already.
Sober Daniel= SEXY
Drunk Daniel= depressing
I kinda had a feeling that he was drinking to get over Bree more than Alex. When he met Alex and was instantly infatuated with her, it seemed to me that he was just transferring his feelings for Bree, instead of actually being over Bree. I think this pretty much proves that that's the case. He needs to just work through his heartbreak over Bree (without alcohol). Rushing into another relationship was a bad idea because now he feels like everyone he cares about is just gonna screw him over. He needs to get over Bree, it'll take some time, but he can do it. I've been there before, had my heart completely crushed by the one person I trusted more than anyone. It took about 6 months to get over him, but I didn't go straight out and start dating as soon as I felt like I was finally over him and getting on with my life. Now it's been almost a year and a half and I know now that I'm ready to start dating again. I'm not saying it will take Daniel a year to get over her, but it will take some time. If he lays off the booze and accepts his life the way it is, he will be better off. Even though that seems painful to him right now, that's just the way it is.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:00 pm
by Lurker
imogene2004 wrote:I kinda had a feeling that he was drinking to get over Bree more than Alex. When he met Alex and was instantly infatuated with her, it seemed to me that he was just transferring his feelings for Bree, instead of actually being over Bree. I think this pretty much proves that that's the case. He needs to just work through his heartbreak over Bree (without alcohol).
He mentioned both of them. I don't think that this suggests it was only the matter with Bree that bothered him, or - as you and someone else thought - that this is him showing romantic interest in Bree once more.

After all, Daniel seemed very happy when he thought Alex was reciprocating interest. He even gave her his attention instead of Bree when the Order showed up at the beach. He also said here that he had gotten post that with Bree, only for Alex to be "fake too."

I think he mentioned both of them because they're both sore spots for him. Even when people do move on, if they feel like they've gotten screwed again, they're not going to forget that previous screwings occured. They're going to be bitter about every last one of them.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:04 pm
by Chelseyrl
Lurker wrote:He mentioned both of them. I don't think that this suggests it was only the matter with Bree that bothered him, or that this is him showing romantic interest in Bree once more.

After all, Daniel seemed very happy when he thought Alex was reciprocating interest. He even gave her his attention instead of Bree when the Order showed up at the beach. He also said here that he had gotten post that with Bree, only for Alex to be "fake too."

I think he mentioned both of them because they're both sore spots for him. Even when people do move on, if they feel like they've gotten screwed again, they're not going to forget that previous screwings occurred. They're going to be bitter about every last one of them.
Yeah, I completely agree with you here. I really do hope he can learn to deal with them both.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:06 pm
by TOSG
Wow, good video, very solid acting on both parts.

I'm a little surprised how everyone is so quick to take Daniel's side. He was my favorite character back when he was the down-to-earth voice of reason, but he's fallen off the deep end. I think that most of us have been in lousy situations with respect to the opposite sex, and know that it's no excuse to spend the rest of your days being drunk and useless.

I also don't know why he's still speaking as if Jonas stole Bree from him. As far as we know, they're nothing more than friends.

I hope that Daniel recovers, and I feel bad for his situation, but he's not being a very sympathetic character right now.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:15 pm
by KatieInWonderland
This is my first post. :D I've been reading the forums for quite some time and I've finally been un-lazy and registered.

Anywho, I feel awful for Daniel and that he feels the need to drink his problems away. I think that DB&J just need to sit down and talk to each other. I don't think that Jonas should've tried to intervene on his own. Where was Bree during all this, anyway?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:16 pm
by PixieSailor
TOSG wrote:Wow, good video, very solid acting on both parts.

I'm a little surprised how everyone is so quick to take Daniel's side. He was my favorite character back when he was the down-to-earth voice of reason, but he's fallen off the deep end. I think that most of us have been in lousy situations with respect to the opposite sex, and know that it's no excuse to spend the rest of your days being drunk and useless.

I also don't know why he's still speaking as if Jonas stole Bree from him. As far as we know, they're nothing more than friends.

I hope that Daniel recovers, and I feel bad for his situation, but he's not being a very sympathetic character right now.
I don't think we're taking Daniel's side. I mean, I pity him. He's admitted in this video to TONS of pain and hurt, and because he's dealing with it in such a destructive way, it hurts me. To the point where I'm ready to cry. I think his drinking is bad. I think he should work on recovery. But I also pity him.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:20 pm
by kageyuki
I'm hearing some very poignant thoughts here, about ol Danny-boy... Well, maybe I shouldn't refer to him as that, anymore. He has grown quite a bit from when the videos first "hit the streets".

Alcoholism is a problem that catches people before they even know they're in its grip. Though for some it's a copout so they don't have to go back to their own reality.

I've never been an alcoholic, and I hope that I never do. I've witnessed family and friends get pulled in, and no matter what, someone gets hurt. In an alcoholic's mind they think they can "stop" it by just putting the bottle down, but there's more to it... The bottle has to staydown...

Whether Daniel was drinking to forget about Bree or Alex is pretty easy to tell. He may have thought he was over Bree, but he really wasn't. Like Lurker mentions, Alex was just an outlet for Daniel to express affection because he got it in return. But deep down inside, who do you think that he really wanted to be sharing those feelings with?