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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:51 pm
by Lurker
Flautapantera wrote:This may seem very far-fetched to some of you as Gemma was apparently offed by Brother, but let your minds wander elsewhere for a moment: what if Gemma wasn't a part of the Order but of the anti-Order. What if she only posed as such to grow closer to and obtain info from those on the inside (namely: Lucy)?
Gemma would have been 13 at the oldest at that time (and that's assuming the document was made around the time Jonas' parents vanished). I can't imagine recruiting her at that time - especially if her parents were still living under the Order.
Flautapantera wrote:Also, if Jonas' parents were both on the list (we'd infer) and they both had the same last name after marriage, the paired initials are:
O.M.A. & D.T.A. (note: Nikki Bower jokingly said D.T.A. belonged to Bree's father after her naming of him in a video)
M.B.C. & S.B.C.
J.C.N. & C.R.N.
Jonas' father's initials are on the cover page (R.J.W.). He's not on the CC list.
Chelseyrl wrote:How does Jonas know that she is in Italy on business? He said that he hasn't talked to her in, roughly six years.
He said he hasn't
seen her in six years, but he could have talked to her since then.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:52 pm
by Beckers
Chelseyrl wrote:How does Jonas know that she is in Italy on business? He said that he hasn't talked to her in, roughly six years.
He said he hasn't seen her since he was 13...not talked to her.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:53 pm
by Beckers
damn..he beat me to it
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:58 pm
by janesalteredstates
Luminous wrote:So here is the list of people Jonas mentioned & the list of initials. This is a Matching test. Start now.
Human rights lawyer
Economics professor
Rabbi
Ambassador
Publishing heiress
Man who owned a radio station
Regenerative(?) medical specialist
Former CIA director.
R.J.W.
K.P.H.
D.L.L.
G.T.K.
O.M.A.
M.B.C.
T.C.M.
J.C.N.
P.S.R.
D.T.A.
C.R.N.
S.B.C.
I
U!
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:58 pm
by Luminous
As far as Bree's mom being on the list. I doubt it. We know she is very much alive, and Bree is pissed and not talking to her anytime soon. That means we can scratch her off of the list of people who have mysteriously died or disappeared.
Edit:
janesalteredstates wrote:I
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:00 pm
by Flautapantera
Lurker wrote:Flautapantera wrote:Also, if Jonas' parents were both on the list (we'd infer) and they both had the same last name after marriage, the paired initials are:
O.M.A. & D.T.A. (note: Nikki Bower jokingly said D.T.A. belonged to Bree's father after her naming of him in a video)
M.B.C. & S.B.C.
J.C.N. & C.R.N.
Jonas' father's initials are on the cover page (R.J.W.). He's not on the CC list.
You're right.
Thanks for the obvious reminder, Lurker.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:02 pm
by Lurker
Luminous wrote:As far as Bree's mom being on the list. I doubt it. We know she is very much alive, and Bree is pissed and not talking to her anytime soon. That means we can scratch her off of the list of people who have mysteriously died or disappeared.
I guess we can rule out Bree's dad too. Jonas would have probably mentioned him.
Flautapantera wrote:You're right.
Thanks for the obvious reminder, Lurker.
No problem.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:03 pm
by Beckers
janesalteredstates wrote:Luminous wrote:So here is the list of people Jonas mentioned & the list of initials. This is a Matching test. Start now.
Human rights lawyer
Economics professor
Rabbi
Ambassador
Publishing heiress
Man who owned a radio station
Regenerative(?) medical specialist
Former CIA director.
R.J.W.
K.P.H.
D.L.L.
G.T.K.
O.M.A.
M.B.C.
T.C.M.
J.C.N.
P.S.R.
D.T.A.
C.R.N.
S.B.C.
I
U!
Hmmm... it it possible they could be saying more? I sit a puzzle?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:06 pm
by Chelseyrl
Beckers wrote:janesalteredstates wrote:Luminous wrote:So here is the list of people Jonas mentioned & the list of initials. This is a Matching test. Start now.
Human rights lawyer
Economics professor
Rabbi
Ambassador
Publishing heiress
Man who owned a radio station
Regenerative(?) medical specialist
Former CIA director.
R.J.W.
K.P.H.
D.L.L.
G.T.K.
O.M.A.
M.B.C.
T.C.M.
J.C.N.
P.S.R.
D.T.A.
C.R.N.
S.B.C.
I
U!
Hmmm... it it possible they could be saying more? I sit a puzzle?
I've been wondering that. So far, I have the word JONAS spelled out of the initials
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:07 pm
by Incognito
is it at all possible that jonas's parents are still alive? he said they were lost at sea, the search was called off, but they never found them...this is probably too far-fetched, but what if they were captured by the order for information or something...?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:11 pm
by Luminous
Check this out - His initials don't match, but the mysterious circumstances certainly do - Former CIA director William colby dies in boating accident in 1996.
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Do ... lbyCNN.htm
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:11 pm
by Vintage_Angel
Great acting and everything, but I highly doubt that anyone could hold anything right after they get their hand stitched up... I know b/c that happened to me just short of 2 months ago. I couldn't hold anything at all for half a week, and then I had a very weak grip on stuff b/c it'd hurt too much to hold things.
Anyway... freaky thing about the scrap book. And if Jonas was 13 ish when his parents disappeared and his aunt was about his age so that's around 19 then there's only a 6 yr difference between them. Sooo, if that's true then his parents must've been really young...
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:14 pm
by Chelseyrl
Vintage_Angel wrote:Great acting and everything, but I highly doubt that anyone could hold anything right after they get their hand stitched up... I know b/c that happened to me just short of 2 months ago. I couldn't hold anything at all for half a week, and then I had a very weak grip on stuff b/c it'd hurt too much to hold things.
Anyway... freaky thing about the scrap book. And if Jonas was 13 ish when his parents disappeared and his aunt was about his age so that's around 19 then there's only a 6 yr difference between them. Sooo, if that's true then his parents must've been really young...
Not necessarily. Many other users have said that they themselves came from a family where there was a huge difference in age between them and their siblings, which then made them closer to the age of their siblings children.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:17 pm
by Inigo
Flauta:
Gemma's last name was konstantinopoulos, very greek but I'm sure it was made up by a fan.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:17 pm
by Vintage_Angel
Chelseyrl wrote:Vintage_Angel wrote:Great acting and everything, but I highly doubt that anyone could hold anything right after they get their hand stitched up... I know b/c that happened to me just short of 2 months ago. I couldn't hold anything at all for half a week, and then I had a very weak grip on stuff b/c it'd hurt too much to hold things.
Anyway... freaky thing about the scrap book. And if Jonas was 13 ish when his parents disappeared and his aunt was about his age so that's around 19 then there's only a 6 yr difference between them. Sooo, if that's true then his parents must've been really young...
Not necessarily. Many other users have said that they themselves came from a family where there was a huge difference in age between them and their siblings, which then made them closer to the age of their siblings children.
True true... hmm, I wonder if the Order got his aunt too now...