Lonelygirl15

I think I've got all the initials positively identified:

K.P.H.
D.L.L.
G.T.K.
O.M.A.
M.B.C.
T.C.M.
J.C.N.
P.S.R.
D.T.A.
C.R.N.
S.B.C.

I used these screenshots, by the way, so feel free to critique:

Shot 1
Shot 2
Shot 3
Shot 4
Shot 5
Shot 6

EDIT: Thanks to McPackage for spotting that the "O" for "O.M.A." was probably an "O" and not a "D."

Languorous Lass wrote:

Lurker wrote:By "Mom and Dad" they mean "The Family"/the Culper Ring.

Ah. Thank you, Lurker.

No problem.

Languorous Lass wrote:

Lurker wrote:I'm not so sure we should be drawing that conclusion myself, though. Tachyon should know the symbol for her own organization.

Not sure what you're getting at here. I didn't see a symbol on the manuscript.

They were talking about the two-legged "Watcher symbol"-like symbol:

Daniel said/ wrote:It's pretty detailed. Your dad was really on to something. It makes sense that they adopted that symbol ... being critical of the Order and all. It's associated with textual criticism and identifying and removing errors from text.

So I was saying I don't think we should be drawing the conclusion that Jonas' parents' foundation is the Culper Ring, as Tachyon should know the symbol of her own organization.

pixxi.is.dizzi wrote:

bribak wrote:it's kinda weird. all those names have three initials. there isn't one name with just two initials or 4 initials.

CC: means Carbon Copy. its common for business memos and what not.

D.L.L.= a dll file?

Time for the OpHeads to get cracking.

Ahh the lag! I'll have to read the other pages later. Jonas was so childish, but hell, guess he has somewhat of a right to after all the crap he dealt with. OMG! The aunt....who could it be??? I have this bad feeling in the pit of my stomach that it's someone we know...

I just assumed that the initials were peoples' initials. First, middle and last names. The question is, who are the people?

I just assumed that the initials were peoples' initials. First, middle and last names. The question is, who are the people?

Ha, I loved childish Jonas. He has every right to act that way. I was cracking up the whole way through the video.

Speaking of cracking... we have initials so start that codecracking. I know some of you are great at it!

I doubt Lucy is Jonas's aunt - he saw her when she grabbed Bree's dad. Unless Jonas truly is with the Order, I doubt she's his aunt.

I still think Jonas is innocent. He may know more than he's let on, but he's had plenty of opportunity to eliminate Bree and Daniel and convince Bree not to run. Instead, he's running with her, and providing the necessary means for her to survive.

I also still think Bree and Jonas are brother and sister. Although if Jonas is 2 years older than Bree, could he possibly remember having had a little sister? And wouldn't his parents have talked about her? Maybe not, I don't know.

Thanks Lurker for your reply to my post.

Ever since the 'How Dumb am I' video I see a distinct anti-Bree vs. pro-Jonas mood brewing in the forum. Yes Jonas is likable and Bree is not, no question. But I think many want Jonas to be innocent so badly that they are in danger of missing or ignoring obvious signs? IOW, the 'how dumb am I?" title might just as well apply to us if we too are snowed by Jonases charms.

Oh, and Jonas is definitely gay. No straight guy would say 'three's a crowd' no matter how annoying and whiney the girl was, even if he had been just tied up. Sorry, that sealed it for me. Either that or he's a plant from the Order trying to tear Bree and Daniel apart by first bonding with one and then the other, wedging himself in between them by any means possible.

arammat wrote:I just assumed that the initials were peoples' initials. First, middle and last names. The question is, who are the people?

I think it's the initials to all the people in the foundation...

I'm pretty sure someone will come up with a way to "crack the code"... that will lead to some wilder theories...

Was it just me, or did Bree seem as though she was intoxicated/stoned in this video?

I'm just saying is all.

Also I think that the humor of this Jonas vs Bree thing could turn uglier than we think.

Part of the bad blood between Jonas and Bree could be a result of the yet-unanswered question of how Bree captured Jonas in the first place. Given that she almost certainly couldn't overpower him, did she drug him? Pretend to seduce him?

Whatever it is, it could quite plausibly be augmenting Jonas' anger towards Bree.

I understand why Jonas is pissed, but if he's choosing to stick with dB and Bree even after that they did to him, then he needs to get over it and stop acting like an ass. He could've just said to hell with them and tossed them out and been done with it if he were really THAT mad.

TOSG wrote:Part of the bad blood between Jonas and Bree could be a result of the yet-unanswered question of how Bree captured Jonas in the first place. Given that she almost certainly couldn't overpower him, did she drug him? Pretend to seduce him?

Whatever it is, it could quite plausibly be augmenting Jonas' anger towards Bree.

I actually thought seduction was the way it occured... I mean it would explain why there are not cool with eachother...

And what about Jonas saying something along the lines,

"...all of their financial stuff is there, the stuff about the foundation... and its safe... for now..."

Do you guys think he said that because he thinks their being followed or because he knows...? Some people are still sticking to the idea that jonas is part of the order and just planted that information... What do you guys think?

haha Jonas killed me in this one Seriously Bree would have been kicked off the island at this point if it were me. "See ya crazy cult girl. Thanks for coming to my homes and holding me prisoner. Yo Beast, wanna play foosball?"

I love how neither of the boys have a problem with breaking and entering

sweetie55 wrote:Ahh the lag! I'll have to read the other pages later. Jonas was so childish, but hell, guess he has somewhat of a right to after all the crap he dealt with. OMG! The aunt....who could it be??? I have this bad feeling in the pit of my stomach that it's someone we know...

I agree. I thought it was hilarious b/c Bree totally deserved a bit of punishment. While to some it might seem like a bit "much", but so was tying up Jonas w/o any concrete information. The specific way he's "punishing" her is childish but at least he's not being violent or dumping them and refusing to help anymore -- which was definitely a possibility. Forgiving her on a dime wouldn't really be all that believable to me. I'm not even a real big Jonas fan, but I'd be ignoring Bree too if she were being that whiney and bitchy around me.