Lonelygirl15

Perhaps by "willingly" they meant not of her own free will...but not through physical force. Of COURSE the Order is forcing her. I love how they're applauding her "decision." The decision was not hers, they forced her.

Xeniph wrote:Perhaps by "willingly" they meant not of her own free will...but not through physical force.

That's what I was thinking.

Thought you might have. ^_^

BabyYoshi88 wrote:Wanting her to come willingly...by manipulating those around her or in other words, forcing to her to come?

Things are getting ugly for sure. Brainwashing a friend to manipulate Bree into doing what they want her to sure isn't fair play.

I agree.

I guess it kind of proves that they are getting desperate.

Xeniph wrote:Perhaps by "willingly" they meant not of her own free will...but not through physical force. Of COURSE the Order is forcing her. I love how they're applauding her "decision." The decision was not hers, they forced her.

Actually, she does have a choice, in fact she has several. They may not all be good choices, but she has choices. That means she has free will.

The Order may have made her feel that her choices are limited, and this is precisely how these games are played. It is a fallacious argument that she only has two choices:
1. do the ceremony.
2. don't do the ceremony.

There are so many factors to add up before the call to action should occur.

If people killed your father and kidnapped your bestfriend would you simply lay down and let them do to you whatever they please, or would you fight back.

And Bree, don't give me that you've fought back crap. You've hidden. You've run. You have NOT fought.


All that aside, do the ceremony. And, if it isn't too much trouble, bring a camera.

janesalteredstates wrote: All that aside, do the ceremony. And, if it isn't too much trouble, bring a camera.

Fantastic advice, Bree. You should follow it.

Ziola=Oppie helper AAAH!

I am no one's helper or lap dog. I am simply a well informed individual who makes educated choices.

If that frightens you, I have a ball. Would you like to bounce it?

Hee hee. I'm serious. This place is CRAWLING with Order-pushers or people who are willing to sacrifice Bree to see the Ceremony. ALL the sensible of us are saying, Bree, is HAVE A PLAN. That way, if anything goes wrong (ie: order turns out being bad, daniel isn't let go, you get brainwashed or in danger), then you have an OUT.

*is hypnotized and brainwashed by the bouncing ball*

Wanna play...

Don't listen to them Bree.

Force? I'm sorry, but facts are facts. Daniel was not happy with you and your treatment of him. So he went out on his own to a bar to meet other women. Who's to say one of them WAS with the Order, and talked to him like an adult (instead of through a stuffed animal) and he began to see he was wrong about them. No one can prove that he didn't join the order willingly. And he does seem very happy there now