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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:35 pm
by sparkybennett
Luv2Skydive wrote:sparkybennett wrote:Luv2Skydive wrote:Researching.....found something. Will look more.
"13. Schenk L, Bear D. Multiple personality and related dissociative phenomena in patients with temporal lobe epilepsy. Am J Psychiatry. 1981;138(10):1311-1316."
looks promising
"Might resective epilepsy surgery, in particular anterior temporal lobectomy (ATL), have an impact on social cognition?" This quote references something called "temporal lobe epilepsy personality syndrome" This might explain the antibiotics??
maybe her parents were going to force her to have a temporal lobectomy to treat her temporal lobe epilepsy.
According to a study here
http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic2651.htm,
" Dissociation [ dissociative identity disorder] is more frequently found in patients with temporal lobe epilepsy than in any other neurologic disorder"
this supports the whole Bree= Cassie theory.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:38 pm
by arammat
Lurker wrote:You know, even if that mention of Cassie and Frank amounts to nothing more than a reference/homage, it is now one of the highlights of the series. A Kodak moment. That was great.
Anyway, as for the rest of the video, it's great to see Bree actually acting mature even while she retains her original personality. She can still mention the stuffed animals but remain sober and quickly say "On a more serious note...". And, hey, she acknowledged that P. Monkey's actually a puppet. This is definitely an improvement. Bree is cool again. Holy shit.
That was a good video. I'm happy with it. I hope Daniel gets back with us all soon, and I kind of feel like it's been too long since we heard anything from him, but this video all around was well done.
By the way, was there an inconsistency with Cassie? Previously Bree said that Cassie was freaked out by the religion and stopped calling. Here Bree said she stopped talking to Cassie after the caller ID incident. Is this a contradiction or does Bree just mean that after the caller ID incident Cassie was too freaked out by the religion to keep talking to her? Maybe a slip up by Jessica Rose ad libbing the scene? Or a sign of a lie?
I didn't catch that when I watched the video, but it is an inconsistency. In the earlier video, Bree clearly states that Cassie stopped coming over because she was freaked out by Bree's religion. It could be a sign that she is lying, or it may just have been a slip as you said. Hey, some pretty big budget shows have had mistakes in consistency, so it happens.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:39 pm
by Luv2Skydive
sparkybennett wrote:Luv2Skydive wrote:sparkybennett wrote:
looks promising
"Might resective epilepsy surgery, in particular anterior temporal lobectomy (ATL), have an impact on social cognition?" This quote references something called "temporal lobe epilepsy personality syndrome" This might explain the antibiotics??
maybe her parents were going to force her to have a temporal lobectomy to treat her temporal lobe epilepsy.
According to a study here
http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic2651.htm,
" Dissociation [ dissociative identity disorder] is more frequently found in patients with temporal lobe epilepsy than in any other neurologic disorder"
this supports the whole Bree= Cassie theory.
I like the track we're on but we need some kind of confirmation that we have something. I found a link but can't view the entire article.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/con ... 38/10/1311
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:40 pm
by arammat
sugarmagnolia wrote:steamywndr wrote:omg it's her dad!
is it really? i'm too scared to call it.
Sugarmagnolia, it's awesome! Call it!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:43 pm
by Luv2Skydive
arammat wrote:Lurker wrote:You know, even if that mention of Cassie and Frank amounts to nothing more than a reference/homage, it is now one of the highlights of the series. A Kodak moment. That was great.
Anyway, as for the rest of the video, it's great to see Bree actually acting mature even while she retains her original personality. She can still mention the stuffed animals but remain sober and quickly say "On a more serious note...". And, hey, she acknowledged that P. Monkey's actually a puppet. This is definitely an improvement. Bree is cool again. Holy shit.
That was a good video. I'm happy with it. I hope Daniel gets back with us all soon, and I kind of feel like it's been too long since we heard anything from him, but this video all around was well done.
By the way, was there an inconsistency with Cassie? Previously Bree said that Cassie was freaked out by the religion and stopped calling. Here Bree said she stopped talking to Cassie after the caller ID incident. Is this a contradiction or does Bree just mean that after the caller ID incident Cassie was too freaked out by the religion to keep talking to her? Maybe a slip up by Jessica Rose ad libbing the scene? Or a sign of a lie?
I didn't catch that when I watched the video, but it is an inconsistency. In the earlier video, Bree clearly states that Cassie stopped coming over because she was freaked out by Bree's religion. It could be a sign that she is lying, or it may just have been a slip as you said. Hey, some pretty big budget shows have had mistakes in consistency, so it happens.
It could also be the Cassie personality saying "I'm done with this whole Crowley, cult, commune, ceremony crap!"
Wow, that's a lot of c's.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:48 pm
by arammat
Ashley wrote:Hmm... didn't Bree say once that she couldn't remember what Cassie looked like when Daniel asked her who she was talking about? But, she remembers these prank calls Cassie used to make from her house?
Strange.
It was Daniel who didn't remember Cassie. At some point in the conversation, Bree says "I don't know," but it's not really indicating that she doesn't know. It was said the way you say I don't know when you want to change the subject or deflect the question.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:51 pm
by oleandereyes
has anyone called the number yet?
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:55 pm
by Luv2Skydive
oleandereyes wrote:has anyone called the number yet?
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Look at Evan's post on page 8.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:55 pm
by iamcool
oleandereyes wrote:has anyone called the number yet?
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yeh, read the rest of the thread
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:56 pm
by sparkybennett
oleandereyes wrote:has anyone called the number yet?
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yes , you can read through these pages
or go to plot discussion there was a post with a transcript of the phone messages.
I hope you were serious and not being sarcastic!
wow
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:57 pm
by oleandereyes
edit: OH MY GOD! i called the reverse number....AMAZING!
sorry about the stupidity, i hadnt read through everything yet.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:57 pm
by kalli182
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:58 pm
by iamcool
its ok, just dont ask questions in the opahid thread, they will bite ur head off but we're much nicer
lol
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:59 pm
by arammat
house wrote:That message was...interesting.
Why would her father have to say: "Bree...this is your dad."? Wouldn't Bree *know* her father's voice. I realize they've been separated for a few weeks, but I think I'd remember my father's voice. If anything, I'm wondering if the Order is putting her dad up to leaving this message, in an effort to get Bree back.
Don't you just say who you are when you leave a message for somebody, though? I mean, I do. If I call one of my kids and get their voicemail, I always say, "It's Mom," before I leave my message. It's automatic.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:00 pm
by sparkybennett
Luv2Skydive wrote:sparkybennett wrote:Luv2Skydive wrote:
"Might resective epilepsy surgery, in particular anterior temporal lobectomy (ATL), have an impact on social cognition?" This quote references something called "temporal lobe epilepsy personality syndrome" This might explain the antibiotics??
maybe her parents were going to force her to have a temporal lobectomy to treat her temporal lobe epilepsy.
According to a study here
http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic2651.htm,
" Dissociation [ dissociative identity disorder] is more frequently found in patients with temporal lobe epilepsy than in any other neurologic disorder"
this supports the whole Bree= Cassie theory.
I like the track we're on but we need some kind of confirmation that we have something. I found a link but can't view the entire article.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/con ... 38/10/1311
It seems well documented that temporal lobe epileptic patients have a high incidence of personailty disorders.
There is an interesting Gerschwind Syndrome that even mentions "hyperreligiousity" as a symptom. Definitely made me think of Bree .
"It is estimated that between 30-50% of epileptics have significant psychiatric difficulties. The incidence of psychosis and mood disorders is high in this population and personality disturbance is also more common than in the general population. Epileptics are at greater risk of developing schizophrenia particularly those with temporal lobe epilepsy. Personality disturbance is also more common in the group with focal temporal lobe seizures. "
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/nnp/teaching/disor ... nepil.html
I have been wondering.... if u guys are right and bree has this split personality disorder and temporal lobe epilepsy 
. I believe it could really challenge Jessica as an actress and be a real make or brake situation for her acting career. This storyline has potential for excellent viewing. 