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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:46 pm
by JohnnyCon
toadlguy wrote:
JohnnyCon wrote: They aready tried that toad, wine = drink / whine = to moan and cry

I'll get working on revamping 2 and 4 too!
What is the problem wined is a word (to drink wine like from a cup on the next line) You know - the killer wined and dined
It works as an anagram, imho I just don't think it fits our poem, the context and tone of "wine" is all off

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:47 pm
by laurenesque
unrepentant wrote:
toadlguy wrote: What is the problem wined is a word (to drink wine like from a cup on the next line) You know - the killer wined and dined
Yeah but how is that a clue? A garden where a killer had some wine? It's pretty much as meaningless as the lion.
Garden of Good and Evil? Maybe it's metaphorical.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:47 pm
by toadlguy
FunkyMonkey wrote:CEDE RIPOSTS SO = to cross is deep ?????
As in river???
I like it

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:47 pm
by elDes
unrepentant wrote:
toadlguy wrote: What is the problem wined is a word (to drink wine like from a cup on the next line) You know - the killer wined and dined
Yeah but how is that a clue? A garden where a killer had some wine? It's pretty much as meaningless as the lion.
like someone said, maybe it's at a zoo and you have to cross the lion pen to some kind of garden, where there will be some kind of cup thing where she/he hid the clue.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:49 pm
by unrepentant
elDes wrote:like someone said, maybe it's at a zoo and you have to cross the lion pen to some kind of garden, where there will be some kind of cup thing where she/he hid the clue..
The zoo in LA charges for entry, I can't imagine she'd plant it somewhere we had to pay to get to. Also if it's in a zoo it'll be really public and likely to be tampered with. Planting in a zoo doesn't make sense.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:49 pm
by glennhenno
No Lauren, it's literal

Inside the gate you will defend
Them yet oppose deny olde friend
This act up here not yet commenced
Is to a cross deep in soil fenced
The garden where the killer wined
Still holds the cup for you to find.


might not be quite right, but the holy grail is in the garden of Gethsemane, apparently. Time to dig around the net for the chalice pic.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:50 pm
by toadlguy
It makes no sense to interpret the poem till we finish it.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:51 pm
by JerseyJohnny
glennhenno wrote:No Lauren, it's literal

Inside the gate you will defend
Them yet oppose deny olde friend
This act up here not yet commenced
Is to a cross deep in soil fenced
The garden where the killer wined
Still holds the cup for you to find.


might not be quite right, but the holy grail is in the garden of Gethsemane, apparently. Time to dig around the net for the chalice pic.
What killer wined in the Garden of Gethsemane???

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:52 pm
by unrepentant
toadlguy wrote:It makes no sense to interpret the poem till we finish it.
Agreed, we should only do such interpretation as might help illuminate whether or not the anagram is correct (ie if it can't make any sense that should be taken into account).

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:53 pm
by glennhenno
You're right, ToadLguy,

and Judas wined in the garden the night of the betrayal, and Peter denied his old friend Christ, and the "cross" reference (pun alert) is there.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:53 pm
by laurenesque
CEDE IF NIL NOS A CEDE RIPOSTS SO.

I reworked some of this and I pulled out words like "crop(s)" and "seed(s)."

Perhaps something along the lines of that? It would work with the garden part, as well as soil and fenced.. Maybe someone else can take a look. I'm no good at poetry.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:55 pm
by Jana4
Yikes, I was scared to place my last few entrances into the running after being admonished because "IT" wasn't the first word of the 4th line. Glad to see some are willing to accept a different approach :o

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:55 pm
by JohnnyCon
I'd love to be wrong, one more correct line puts one step closer to the finish line

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:58 pm
by Jana4
JohnnyCon wrote:I'd love to be wrong, one more correct line puts one step closer to the finish line
I'd love to be able to just post my guesses without someone telling me I am dead wrong before anybody knows anything.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:58 pm
by Rick9955
unrepentant wrote:
toadlguy wrote: What is the problem wined is a word (to drink wine like from a cup on the next line) You know - the killer wined and dined
Yeah but how is that a clue? A garden where a killer had some wine? It's pretty much as meaningless as the lion.
YES I'm sure it's a clue:
"the garden where the killer wined
still holds the cup for you to find."

In some garden where "the killer" drank something, there's a cup waiting to be found by us. The drop is a cup in a garden (park? whatever). Anyone agree?