0146 "On The Road Again" [03/05/07]

Virginia · Post by **Virginia** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:39 pm

I could totally be wrong, but I'm so excited about being here for the first 5 pages, I thought I would try to read the initals.

K.P.H.
D.L.L.
G.T.K.
D.M.A.
M.B.C.
T.C.M.
J.C.N.
P.S.A. (P.S.R.?)
O.T.A.
C.R.H. (C.B.H.?)
S.B.C.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:44 pm

Languorous Lass wrote:
Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote:
bethy wrote:Jonas also said that his parents set up a "foundation"...

If they were critical of The Order...then the foundation they set up could be... Mom and Dad?

ding ding ding ding ding! we gots ourselves a legit connection to tachy!
Wait -- I seriously don't get it. Mom and Dad who? How is this a connection to Tachy?

By "Mom and Dad" they mean "The Family"/the Culper Ring.

I'm not so sure we should be drawing that conclusion myself, though. Tachyon should know the symbol for her own organization.

AM wrote:Jonas definitely knows more than he has let on. I refuse to believe that the Creators would let it stand as a random coincidence that Jonas had followed Bree's story and offered them shelter (and oh, wow, would you look at that we have something in common). Just no way. It would cheapen the entire story and destroy any intelligent fans ability to suspend disbelief. Daniel should be asking more questions about what Jonas knew and why he never came clean.

If you saw my post a few before yours, you know I'm right there with you. That would just be way too much.

AM wrote:Also, Jonas needs to recognize that his suspicious behavior and refusal to be forthcoming definitely contributed to Bree thinking he was her enemy.

I have to agree. Though Bree was definitely in the wrong with how she reacted (it made her out to be something of a hypocrite, or at least someone who was using really wacky logic; "Anyone whose parents had an undefined association with the Order must be in with them! Oh shit, that includes me, doesn't it?"), if Jonas does know more than he's been letting and never came clean before this, he has to blame himself somewhat for her response.

girlAnachronism · Post by **girlAnachronism** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:44 pm

Is it just me or did the stain next to the initials look a bit like an island?

Steph1636 · Post by **Steph1636** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:47 pm

interesting video. I found it cute how Jonas was acting all childlike!

But what is with the order and foundation that his parents had? Maybe once they settle in their new house, they will find some papers about it.

And the lettters? It must be a secret code for something. I was thinking the intials of people in the Order or foundation that Jonas's parents had

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:48 pm

turkeyfeather wrote:I still don't know about Jonas. Did anyone else notice some of the "looks" he gave the camera?

I think we can say for certain now that he knows more than he's telling. What are the chances that he offered Bree and Daniel a place to stay and didn't know anything about his parent's relationship to the Order; that he just offered out of the kindness of his heart, not knowing a thing about this?

I think Jonas planted that when he was up in the attic.

No way he offered them a place, and then he finds out his parents just happen to be anti-Order.

I'm even more convinced that Jonas is working for the Order, and that this was an ingenious way to get Bree's trust back after she found the symbol.

EDIT: OK, Lurker and AM posted this before me. Quick thinking, Lurker.

bribak · Post by **bribak** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:48 pm

it's kinda weird. all those names have three initials. there isn't one name with just two initials or 4 initials.

Quote: wrote:“It’s pretty detailed. Your dad was really on to something. It makes sense that they adopted that symbol, being critical of the order and all. It’s associated with textual criticism and identifying and removing errors from text(s?).”

so i guess we have the 'watchers' symbol and i guess the 'critics' or 'editors?'

ApotheosisAZ · Post by **ApotheosisAZ** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:51 pm

Well, this video is chock full o' goodness.

It appears to be confirmation that the box in the closet was the object to which Jonas refered in the previous episode.

There is a document being examined that Bree seems to believe clears Jonas.

Daniel seems convinced as well.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:57 pm

bethy wrote:Jonas also said that his parents set up a "foundation"...

If they were critical of The Order...then the foundation they set up could be... Mom and Dad?

Maybe it's TiKO foundation; Home Schoolers Aggregates only means of funding?

Languorous Lass · Post by **Languorous Lass** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:59 pm

Lurker wrote:By "Mom and Dad" they mean "The Family"/the Culper Ring.

Ah. Thank you, Lurker.

Lurker wrote:I'm not so sure we should be drawing that conclusion myself, though. Tachyon should know the symbol for her own organization.

Not sure what you're getting at here. I didn't see a symbol on the manuscript. And yes, there was a symbol in Jonas's parents' cabin, but they might have been a part of the relevant section of the order before they went rogue and became critics/heretics.

longlostposter wrote:I think Jonas planted that when he was up in the attic.

No way he offered them a place, and then he finds out his parents just happen to be anti-Order.

I'm even more convinced that Jonas is working for the Order, and that this was an ingenious way to get Bree's trust back after she found the symbol.

I assume by "that" you mean the manuscript. Interesting theory -- I think it's reasonably credible.

pixxi.is.dizzi · Post by **pixxi.is.dizzi** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:09 pm

bribak wrote:it's kinda weird. all those names have three initials. there isn't one name with just two initials or 4 initials.

CC: means Carbon Copy. its common for business memos and what not.

blahblablee · Post by **blahblablee** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:11 pm

Ugh Bree's getting all whiny again...As far as I'm concearned as long as she whines she's dead to me too =p

Laurilea · Post by **Laurilea** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:12 pm

I'm so happy to watch a new video - and the gang is on the move! I'm a little disappointed that they didn't try and fill in the blanks a little bit more between "What is that?!?!?" in the attic and "hey look, my dad wrote a thesis on the Order."

Hopefully more light will be shed in coming videos.

Languorous Lass · Post by **Languorous Lass** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:13 pm

pixxi.is.dizzi wrote:
bribak wrote:it's kinda weird. all those names have three initials. there isn't one name with just two initials or 4 initials.

CC: means Carbon Copy. its common for business memos and what not.

And hence, as bribak said, there are no names with just two initials.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:14 pm

Languorous Lass wrote:
longlostposter wrote:I think Jonas planted that when he was up in the attic.

No way he offered them a place, and then he finds out his parents just happen to be anti-Order.

I'm even more convinced that Jonas is working for the Order, and that this was an ingenious way to get Bree's trust back after she found the symbol.
I assume by "that" you mean the manuscript. Interesting theory -- I think it's reasonably credible.

Thank you, Lass, but Lurker said the second paragraph first. I just didn't read the whole thread before I posted.

jeezy · Post by **jeezy** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:15 pm

I think it would be easier to make assumptions if we had seen the conversation that took place between Jonas, Breem, and Daniel... Any ideas how that went...?