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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:49 pm
by Sami
I observe :P haha. If its not to much trouble, could you post a link to it in a bigger sice (oh, sorry that was waaay off topic)

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:50 pm
by pariah164
Sami wrote:I observe :P haha. If its not to much trouble, could you post a link to it in a bigger sice (oh, sorry that was waaay off topic)
(It's ok, I think. XD;) And I can post it as big as the video on the main site has it. Gimme a few.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:51 pm
by Sami
(pssst, not to be rude, but I don't think you should have the pic in your sig)

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:52 pm
by pariah164
Sami wrote:(pssst, not to be rude, but I don't think you should have the pic in your sig)
O RLY? bah. Dammit.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:07 pm
by Kelly
Okay, I hear the footsteps, and what I hear Jonas say exactly is..."Are you sure we can trust this guy? I mean, he's not like really brother is he?" Which strikes me as kind of a strange thing to say. I mean, why would Jonas assume he wasn't really brother? Who else would it have been? The she Bree is referring to is obviously Tachyon, but Jonas seems oddly confused when he shouldn't really be if he has already worked Brother's "name" into the situation.

Regardless, my point was just that we are kind of unlikely to actually see either brother or Tachyon for a while.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:57 pm
by Magesa
Kelly wrote:Okay, I hear the footsteps, and what I hear Jonas say exactly is..."Are you sure we can trust this guy? I mean, he's not like really brother is he?" Which strikes me as kind of a strange thing to say. I mean, why would Jonas assume he wasn't really brother? Who else would it have been? The she Bree is referring to is obviously Tachyon, but Jonas seems oddly confused when he shouldn't really be if he has already worked Brother's "name" into the situation.

Regardless, my point was just that we are kind of unlikely to actually see either brother or Tachyon for a while.
Definitely no muted name.

Yes, he says, "I mean, he's not like really, Brother, is he?". I just thought that he had a hard time believing all of this was actually happening, and that he's really paranoid or something, and had never really met Brother. But you bring up a valid point.

Even if we don't see Brother or Tachyon on tape for awhile, we know that these guys are a major part of the story from now on!

Before this video, I would have been seriously skeptical of us seeing Brother or Tachyon on tape, but the Creators have surprised me. I didn't think they'd make a video anything like "The Human Ransom." I'm ready for anything now.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:28 pm
by Lurker
I'm pretty sure Jonas said "He's not, like, really her brother, is he?" Neither Jonas or Bree should know enough about who Brother is to even ponder a question like that.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:49 pm
by Magesa
Lurker wrote:I'm pretty sure Jonas said "He's not, like, really her brother, is he?" Neither Jonas or Bree should know enough about who Brother is to even ponder a question like that.
I honestly didn't hear the "her", but if Jonas did say that, then I am somewhat surprised that are heroes are this smart and were in contact with Tach and Brother, but it isn't like they "shouldn't" know that about Brother. I think that Tachyon, Brother, Bree, Jonas, and possibly Daniel have been in contact for awhile. I think for most of this time it was just Bree, but she probably talked to Jonas about this before they drove down to the exchange. Our Bree isn't brilliant for nothing! And she wouldn't mention it in her videos -- she knows the Order is watching ("Lucy if you're watching this -- of course you're watching this").

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:08 am
by Kelly
Nope, there's no "her". But yeah, Jonas shouldn't know enough about Brother to ask the question in either form. I mean, if I were to ask, "He's not like, really brother, is he?" I would be making the suggestion that I had some reason to think it was not the person I already knew to be brother. Jonas doesn't even know who brother is...nor has he even seen him on camera...so why would Jonas ask if it wasn't really brother. It's just the word choice that's thrown me. If he had asked, "Is it really brother?" That would have made more sense...but to make the statement/question "It isn't really brother, is it?" Is strange.

Know what I mean?

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:14 am
by Magesa
Kelly wrote:Nope, there's no "her". But yeah, Jonas shouldn't know enough about Brother to ask the question in either form. I mean, if I were to ask, "He's not like, really brother, is he?" I would be making the suggestion that I had some reason to think it was not the person I already knew to be brother. Jonas doesn't even know who brother is...nor has he even seen him on camera...so why would Jonas ask if it wasn't really brother. It's just the word choice that's thrown me. If he had asked, "Is it really brother?" That would have made more sense...but to make the statement/question "It isn't really brother, is it?" Is strange.

Know what I mean?
I guess I kind of know what you mean... Why would he doubt it was Brother? It reminds me of how he doubted the man Bree was with was really her Dad. Jonas seems to be a little paranoid about people he's never met but only heard about.

However, I don't know why Jonas shouldn't know who Brother is. Brother posted the videos for all to see. We know Bree watched them (and I'm certain she was in contact with them). Jonas is a little less obvious, but why not?

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:57 am
by MrJimbob
maybe Jonas was in shock from the events, just like when Bree's fathers getting killed in front of him, he kinda fell behind from the shock....and now he has been told that Brother is going to save them....wouldn't he have known from all the videos that Brother was a killer (killing Gemma supposedly) and now he's being chased by the order and being asked to trust this killer...I would question the situation myself.

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:32 am
by PinkoLady
So assuming he has seen Brother's videos, if they're interacting with Tachyon (which is clear) why would he have any reason not to believe that it was Brother they were working with?



Maybe Brother just looked weird, like he was... really fat and acne-ridden, or cross-eyed. I don't know. I wouldn't have pictured him like that.

It would be sweet picturing Gemma McPoutyLips having to seduce someone who was freakishly unattractive, though.

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:28 am
by Sami
looked wierd? haha, where did you come up with that? :d

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:25 pm
by PinkoLady
Haha, as in "THAT's not really brother, is it??" You know.

Really though, it would seem Jonas either already knew something about Brother that didn't seem right, or he had some pre-conceived notion of what Brother would look/act like, and it didn't match up with the reality. Like, I picture brother to look like a late twentie-something indie hipster, and if he turned out to be thugged out or obese, I would be confused.

Yeah yeah, I am joking. But seriously, it was weird of Jonas to question whether or not that was Brother when they were clearly working with Tachyon-- I mean, what reason would he have to doubt it?

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:44 pm
by Kasdeja
Well, brother is supposed to be rather dim...maybe he didn't look smart enough to be involved, let alone fly the helicopter?