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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:32 pm
by Watch Keeper
LOL...I think Cypher was answering a question that came up in the other thread...
spiff5000 wrote:It depends on the type of ring...
Decoder
Cypher
Which one???
I suggest we make the CYPHER ring, not the decoder ring.
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:38 pm
by quizzoc
Watch Keeper wrote:LOL...I think Cypher was answering a question that came up in the other thread...
spiff5000 wrote:It depends on the type of ring...
Decoder
Cypher
Which one???
I suggest we make the CYPHER ring, not the decoder ring.
Cool
Makes sense to me
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:42 pm
by tiltingwindward
It was pointed out earlier (by the person who first posted those pictures, I think) that the decoder ring and the cypher ring are actually the same thing.
quizzoc - SparkyB has now tried the all uppercase set, and had no more luck than we did with the upper and lower. Just an update. I didn't mean to sound like I didn't think your idea was a good one.
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:53 pm
by tigerlilylynn
Sorry this was on the wrong thread so it's a double
Break thru!
The wheel is part of a cipher.
The key is 112, E was in brackets
So I set the inside 1 to the outside E - so 6 = 5
I set inside 1 to outside E again - B = 4
I set inside 2 to outside E - 3 = 4
Repeat the 112 patern
At the moment I mangled the back half and got
TESTär!!
Edit: It's TESTär!! after taking it from hex to text
Edit the sequal: The outside ring is the movies the inner ring is lovelines
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:04 am
by shifty
tigerlilylynn wrote:Sorry this was on the wrong thread so it's a double
Break thru!
The wheel is part of a cipher.
The key is 112, E was in brackets
So I set the inside 1 to the outside E - so 6 = 5
I set inside 1 to outside E again - B = 4
I set inside 2 to outside E - 3 = 4
Repeat the 112 patern
At the moment I mangled the back half and got
TESTär!!
Edit: It's TESTär!! after taking it from hex to text
Edit the sequal: The outside ring is the movies the inner ring is lovelines
I got TESTING so far, good job, Tiger!!
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11211211211211 112112112112
6B36676B38B2B2 E03EE03AE033
54455354494e47 203210421033
T E S T I N G
6B36676B38B2B2=54455354494e47=TESTING
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:10 am
by spiff5000
tigerlilylynn wrote:Sorry this was on the wrong thread so it's a double
Break thru!
The wheel is part of a cipher.
The key is 112, E was in brackets
So I set the inside 1 to the outside E - so 6 = 5
I set inside 1 to outside E again - B = 4
I set inside 2 to outside E - 3 = 4
Repeat the 112 patern
At the moment I mangled the back half and got
TESTär!!
Edit: It's TESTär!! after taking it from hex to text
Edit the sequal: The outside ring is the movies the inner ring is lovelines
AH! Well done.
Geez, I feel dumb. I looked at that 'E' the first time and thought it had something to do with it... but I got all caught up in the ASCII 112 = p thing.
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:28 am
by spiff5000
Just for reference... so we're using the same lingo in the future:
The 'E' is the key
The '1 1 2' is the keyword
The movement of '1 1 2' to decode is the key shift
ref:
http://starbase.cs.trincoll.edu/~crypto ... berti.html
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:52 am
by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
okay this is all just totally hurting my head lol
i've been following you guys for a while now.. trying to learn all the mathematics and codes and stuff so i can try and learn to do these puzzles on my own.
i'm reading over that site spiff put up there and very vaguely understanding it.
sorry if this is a dumb question- but wth is a hex code?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:06 am
by tigerlilylynn
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:okay this is all just totally hurting my head lol
i've been following you guys for a while now.. trying to learn all the mathematics and codes and stuff so i can try and learn to do these puzzles on my own.
i'm reading over that site spiff put up there and very vaguely understanding it.
sorry if this is a dumb question- but wth is a hex code?
Hex is short for Hexadecimal which is a computer code made of letter/number pairs
Here's a translator:
http://www.paulschou.com/tools/xlate/
And the wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:29 am
by windsong
I'm having a hard time visualizing how this was solved. When you say outside one is set to E, what does that mean? I understand the 112 part, but I dont understand how E ring fits.
Can anyone help to clear this up for me?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:50 am
by sparkyb
windsong wrote:I'm having a hard time visualizing how this was solved. When you say outside one is set to E, what does that mean? I understand the 112 part, but I dont understand how E ring fits.
Can anyone help to clear this up for me?
Take a look at the Decoder Rings that TigerLilyLynn made:
http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic ... 566#101566
These are the numbers from 1-F in the order accordings to the times found in the movies puzzle for the larger (outer) ring and the LoveLine puzzle for the smaller (inner) ring. When assembled, the letters of the inner ring line up with the ones on the outer ring, but the inner ring can be rotated to line up in different ways. In order to use the decoder ring to decode a messages, once you have it lined up right (more about that in a second) you find a number from the encrypted message on the outer ring and replace it by the corresponding number on the inside ring. In order to line up the 2 rings, you need to know one of the pairs that line up. In the case of this small test, we start by lining the E on the outer ring with the 1 on the inner ring.
Taking the two rings:
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C64FB2835D7A91E (outer)
C2D61A5EF4793B8 (inner)
And lining them up so that E on the outer ring matches 1 on the inner ring (use your imagination to see how they are round and I rotated them by shifting the bottom one):
Now we take the first number if the message, 6, on the outer ring and replace it with the number below it, 5.
The 112 means that we don't always leave it lined up the same way. we might align it differently for each number in the message. So first the first number we align E with 1, for the second we align E with 1, for the third we align E with 2, and this pattern repeats. I hope this helps
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:50 am
by tigerlilylynn
windsong wrote:I'm having a hard time visualizing how this was solved. When you say outside one is set to E, what does that mean? I understand the 112 part, but I dont understand how E ring fits.
Can anyone help to clear this up for me?
You have to align the (ouside) E and the (inside) 1 then decode the coded character.
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:03 am
by windsong
Maybe a picture...? How do you know you are aligning it right?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:27 am
by tigerlilylynn
With [E] to 1
With [E] to 2
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:12 am
by Scalare
Great job
though there were no real hints as to how to solve this shit you did it!
So my assumptions on the 112 being a decoding thing were right..