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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:42 pm
by BrightSilence
Lurker wrote:
Inigo wrote:Ah but isn't this what all great love stories are all about? How boring would it be if they live happily ever after from the get-go! a certain amount of suffering, hating, hurting and lying and crying must be endured before Boy can get Girl.
No, in all honesty, I don't see great love stories as having to be about that (especially not the kind of hell she's put him through). Really, the bitch should count herself fortunate if he even stays in her life after all this is over (assuming they both survive).

There's tension and conflict, and then there's malicious torture. I see Bree as the antithesis of romance, the epitome of evil where loyalty and all-consuming love is concerned, unfit to be in a romantic relationship with anyone. If Jonas wants her, he can have her, but let Daniel — who's suffered so much in the hopes of being loved by and receiving loyalty from someone — have Sarah.

Wow, I'm bitter.
Yes you are bitter. And I can't figure out what Bree has done to diserve this? She didn't like Daniel in a romantic way, big deal... He was the one rebounding trying to get his hands on every girl that got in range. And that's fine by me, but what did Bree do appart from maybe being a bit inconsiderate of how he felt. I can't remember her being an enormous bitch. And I still don't blame her for leaving with the HoO people untill we know why she left.

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:00 pm
by Spades
Bree acts like a brat sometimes.

I'm sorry, not sometimes, all the time.

When DB and her were on the run, she treated him like shit.

He had given up college to save her.

What does she do? Act like a bitch.

When someone puts their life on hold, for you, you treat them with respect. There is no "inconsiderate" here, only complete and total gratitude, or apathy. That's just plain fucked up, no matter how you view it. Wrong is still fucking wrong.

Yes, DB jumped the gun with the whole, "She loves me" crap, and that was wrong too. But, then again, he has been kinda busy, so I doubt he had time for a girl. But, I still think he should have taken a cold shower, and not be such a drunk and find a girl that he could have a distant relationship with (which is kind of absurd; plus, if the Order found out, Bam, DB is right in the palm of their hand), or shit, maybe even a one night stand if he was desperate enough (though I think DB feels alone, and wants someone who he can share ideas, emotions, etc. with).

It will be amazing if anything happens with Sarah. Fighting the Order is a full time thing. You can't just go, "Time out, guys! I wanna go play for a little. Please?"

They killed Bree's dad, and I do not think they would hesitate to kill him as well.

And frankly, half the time it looks like Bree does not give a f**k. Shit, it looks like that all the time. She is always fucking complaining.

She has to learn to shut the f**k up, think, and then say thank you. And maybe help them out for once, instead of dragging them around, and sometimes just blowing them off.

And for f**k's sake, why the f**k would she just fucking f**k up every-fucking-thing they did to protect her by fucking going with fucking Lucy?

DB and Jonas should start charging her $50 an hour or something.

If she was brainwashed or whatever to get to the car, I'll ease off her a little bit. She still walked to the car.

And I'm mad at the character (wow, maybe I'm going fucking crazy, lol) not anyone here.

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:20 pm
by BrightSilence
Wow, okay, ouch...

Well yes, she could have been more thankfull towards daniel, but don't forget you are judging a person on 3 or 4 minute vids. I don't think that if it were really as bad as you picture it, Daniel would have stayed with her up to now.

I'm just starting to think I'm the only one remembering the older vids of Bree. The proofing science wrong and other funny goofy Bree stuff. I would think there would at least still be a tiny bit of that old Bree love left. Lately I think the love for her has vanished like she did again herself...

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:27 pm
by Spades
BrightSilence wrote:Wow, okay, ouch...

Well yes, she could have been more thankfull towards daniel, but don't forget you are judging a person on 3 or 4 minute vids. I don't think that if it were really as bad as you picture it, Daniel would have stayed with her up to now.

I'm just starting to think I'm the only one remembering the older vids of Bree. The proofing science wrong and other funny goofy Bree stuff. I would think there would at least still be a tiny bit of that old Bree love left. Lately I think the love for her has vanished like she did again herself...
lol, sorry. Bad day. Again. I needed a cigarette...

But she still always seem a tad immature, even in the older vids.

As to why DB is still around, I dont know. Maybe he still loves her more than a sister. Maybe he feels obligated to do it (protect her, you pervs), as in he does love her like a little sister. I think he has begun to see himself as more of a guardian, and Bree's dad's letter that stated such just reinforces the idea to him.

Maybe that is the underlying reason on why he is not seeing eye to eye with Jonas. Lookin' out for baby sis. And it always seems that older brothers never get involved until the situation gets complicated, and then they make it complicated even more (hence, hanging with Sarah, and then out of the blue...).

But I'm not saying he should have her on a leash. At least, not until she had gotten any better.

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:54 pm
by BrightSilence
I think the sister idea makes sense. He does still care about her, but it may indeed feel like he is obligated to protect her aswell. Those combined would explain why he's still around. As for Bree, she just should not have been allowed to wander around freely yet. Not until she made 100% clear that she is herself again AND has explained why she went with the order in the first place. After the explaination that she owes the guys she can do whatever the hell she wants. If she has a good reason she can even go back to the order as long as she tells the people that have risked their lifes for her more than once why she would make such an unexpected turn.

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:45 pm
by Lurker
Spades, just want to offer complete agreement with your last couple of posts. Very nicely done (and pretty funny, as well).

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:22 pm
by Spades
Lurker wrote:Spades, just want to offer complete agreement with your last couple of posts. Very nicely done (and pretty funny, as well).
Why thank you.

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:41 pm
by Languorous Lass
You forgot the "monkey" option.

IOW, I wanted to vote, "Who cares?"

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:42 pm
by apocalypse46
no this is what i think will happen. sarah will stop flirting with DB then DB will realise he liked her alot and then try and get together with her which judging by sarah it will happen but end fast. Bree when she's over the whole brainwashing thing will go back to being her old self and still being single. and Jonas will be trying to bang Bree again