OpAphid, The Kidnapper and Sid the clown walk into a Bar....

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:00 am

HoO seems to be more of a cover up for the order.\

eta: I just use the HoO as a name, as their principles actually seem decent and good. But when the order is involved its all manipulation.

Spades · Post by **Spades** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:04 am

Bree stated that the HoO is just a front before. I think this theory makes sense.

But is the Order as high as it goes, or is someone telling them what to do?

Smiley, your Av kicks ass by the way.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:10 am

I think the order is as high as it goes. They've stated before that it's weaved pretty well into our society including politians and world leaders. So it wouldn't surprise me if their are other fronts, other then the HoO.

ps - thanks! I <3 my av too

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:15 am

BTW, where does the Order of Denderah fit in? Is it the Order we're talking about or a subdivision inside the Order, related to HoO?

Spades · Post by **Spades** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:16 am

Damnit, lemme find that link to vid impulse, I totally lost it.

It has some pretty interesting stuff about the OoD in it.

I think Order is just short for the whole thing.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:17 am

impulse wrote:BTW, where does the Order of Denderah fit in? Is it the Order we're talking about or a subdivision inside the Order, related to HoO?

I think the order of denderah is one of two things or maybe both:

1) The order of denderah is The Order and it's beliefs and missions.

2) Another front of the Order, a sect of the Hymn Of one (Maybe...)

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:19 am

Killthesmiley wrote:
impulse wrote:BTW, where does the Order of Denderah fit in? Is it the Order we're talking about or a subdivision inside the Order, related to HoO?
I think the order of denderah is one of two things or maybe both:

1) The order of denderah is The Order and it's beliefs and missions.

2) Another front of the Order, a sect of the Hymn Of one (Maybe...)

'cause I remember Bree saying her parents are not in the Order of Denderah. But they are/were definitely with HoO.

EDIT: yeah, that was in Learning to Drive:

Daniel: You don't even think it's weird that they're not telling you about this whole thing.

Bree: No, I don't think it's weird. They don't know, okay.

Daniel: What do... what are... what do you mean they don't know anything?

Bree: They're not Order of Denderah, okay?

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:21 am

hmmm. yea it is definitely an interesting question.

Just another hole that needs to be filled in I think.

Spades · Post by **Spades** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:23 am

I think they were just members of HoO, but were not good enough or rich enough or powerful enough to be in the Order if Denderah.

WHERE THE f**k IS THAT VIDEO!!! GODDAMNIT!!!

Hold on, it'll take a bit, sorry.

Spades · Post by **Spades** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:25 am

oh, friggin' finally.

Here it is, I put this on a thread before, but I completely forgot which one it was.

http://one.revver.com/watch/226443

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:26 am

But remember Bree has said that her mother was pretty high up. I believe that was in "What my Dad said..."

Spades · Post by **Spades** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:32 am

Hmmmm.... maybe because she was so high up in HoO or the Order they tasked her with watching Bree? And since Bree's dad was there, he was able to have the ceremony girl fall right into his lap?

Or maybe Bree's dad somehow knew in advance that Bree would be going to Mrs. Bree, and married her b/c of that?

And, perhaps Bree's parents lied about being in the Order?

Wow, I really have to stop over analyzing.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:58 pm

Lets go back to the whiteboard shall we.

What's on the Board?

I thought "the order" was short for the order of dendrah. Consisting of:

The flock (the religious members of the hymn of one). Bree was a member of this group unwillingly and therefore knew nothing of the overarching orginization. Bree's surrogate mom may have been higher in the order but that would then be more reason to hide the order from bree. Only presenting its religious face. A kind of your in the order but you don't know your in the order.

OTS is the organization within the order that spawned the kidnapper and hince is most likely OpAphid's home.

Lucy would be a Helper as she is labled as such. A group created just for the ceremony girls.

We know Watchers.

Decons are leaders of some sort with in the order, most likely senators, governors, car dealers you know greasy types. :p

By looking at the board I feel the elders are seperate and are considered the Dendrah themselves. Controlling thier order hence the name.

I am sure the resistance may have had members in the branches of the order all pretending the resistance didn't exsist. Going to birthday parties for a decon's son (who else can afford a pony ride at a birthday party) pretending to be part of the team.

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:32 pm

giddeanx wrote:Lets go back to the whiteboard shall we.

Well, thanks giddeanx, I forgot about the whiteboard. So the Order of Denderah fits in after all. It looks like the Elders are controlling all the other branches.

nowherepixie · Post by **nowherepixie** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:41 pm

Yeh, damn deacon's kids. I got a pin the tail on the donkey if I was lucky!