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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:57 am
by raigne
Haether wrote:
actually, when you've memorized something for something important, it sticks with you.
yes, I wish this were true. Sure, I know all the words to the "Meow Mix" theme,* which I believe fits firmly under the category of "unimportant," but I can never remember basic biochemistry principles like the TCA cycle or the structures of the 20 basic amino acids, which fit firmly in the category of important.

*I love chicken, I love fishes, meow mix meow mix is delicious.
If you think about it, both of the examples used (a song, and a monologue) are things that were performed. And when you're going to perform soemthing you do make sure you remember it well. You're excited about doing it and you don't want to screw up. And Bree was working on it for months.

If it were that easy to remember important things that were just fact cramming, I wouldn't have such a godawful time memorizing I/O address ranges and which ports go with which IRQs. But I do remember every song my choir sang in high school...

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:55 am
by RedRevolver
nowherepixie wrote:summer solstice is 21st june. (I think) And I think that's the next one? :?
Aw, I swear I posted that earlier. Grr.

Summer Solstice is one of my favourite holidays :D.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:51 pm
by Spades
Hmmm... A lot of different groups celebrate on midsummer.

Maybe that's when they will hold the ceremony?

Does anyone else have any ideas?

Note: It would have been around a year, right? That Bree was preparing, I mean. I do not recall if the first vid was actually in the summer, but wasnt it alluded to that she had been preparing before she started her vlogs?

Maybe and exact year or something is a magical amount of time to the Order. I dont know, I'm grasping at straws here.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:57 pm
by sack36
nowherepixie wrote:summer solstice is 21st june. (I think) And I think that's the next one? :?
Whimper! You mean they're going to drag this out til then? :cry:

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:01 pm
by Lurker
Spades wrote:Note: It would have been around a year, right? That Bree was preparing, I mean. I do not recall if the first vid was actually in the summer, but wasnt it alluded to that she had been preparing before she started her vlogs?
She didn't start preparing until at least September 3. That's the day she found out she would be doing the ceremony (mentioned in "A Change In My Life").

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:06 pm
by Raven_Night
I agree with the brainwashing thing, just for the simple fact that I'm crazy like that :lol:

Anyways,I have an idea.

Maybe they recruited Bree to be a Watcher for the Order because they think he would be good at that and if she didn't agree that they would hurt Jules/D&J?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:08 pm
by Spades
Ahh, ok. I missed the straws.

When do you feel the ceremony will happen?

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:50 pm
by Mulapin
She didn't start preparing until at least September 3. That's the day she found out she would be doing the ceremony (mentioned in "A Change In My Life").[/quote]

After watching the above link, I ask you this question,
When do you feel the ceremony will happen, per your knowledge of knowing the participants?

Mulapin

Re: When do you feel the ceremony will happen?

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:15 pm
by allie
Mulapin wrote:She didn't start preparing until at least September 3. That's the day she found out she would be doing the ceremony (mentioned in "A Change In My Life").

After watching the above link, I ask you this question,
When do you feel the ceremony will happen, per your knowledge of knowing the participants?

Mulapin
that's the million dollar question

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:23 am
by cosmicdancer
Wait a second, I thought we discovered in the opening of the box that the injections were being given to her by her father as a way to try to make her trait negative. So not really to prepare her for the ceremony, but the opposite of that.

Re: When do you feel the ceremony will happen?

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:19 am
by Lurker
Mulapin wrote:After watching the above link, I ask you this question,
When do you feel the ceremony will happen, per your knowledge of knowing the participants?
I have no idea. Wish I could make even a guess.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:00 pm
by Kanazaka
I'm beginning to think that there might not be another ceremony. The fake ceremony was to throw off Daniel, but I'm thinking that the Order hoped that Bree would still want to participate in the real ceremony. However, they underestimated her friendship with Daniel, and as a result they lost their chance to perform the ceremony. That's because (IMHO) the ceremony was more or less a ruse to coerce Bree into allowing the Order to do whatever it is they need to do to carry out their still-secret plans (involving ribozymes and possibly the reversal of aging, or a race of immortal Order members, etc.). I don't think that they needed to perform it on a certain date, but decided to tie it to a special holiday in order to coerce Bree. If Bree is indeed brainwashed, the Order can repeat the Ceremony ruse, but if not, they might be straight with her and tell her exactly what they are going to do to her, especially if she believes that it will help the Order and thus herself, too. So instead of focusing on the ceremony, I think we should focus on how the Order plans to use Bree to carry out their larger goals.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:26 pm
by Nieriel.Manwathiel
cosmicdancer wrote:Wait a second, I thought we discovered in the opening of the box that the injections were being given to her by her father as a way to try to make her trait negative. So not really to prepare her for the ceremony, but the opposite of that.
Or they coulda been like "Hey, Bree's Dad, give her this Masaphetalopicusinosis regime!"
and he goes "oh sure, Evil Order! Cough and switch medicines!"
Order: What was that last thing you said??
Bree's Dad: <.< >.>"Oh sure".

"Masaphetalopicusinosis."

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:28 am
by Mulapin
Now that is a word, I do not know, IE., "Masaphetalopicusinosis."

Trully someone or maybe something changed the parents "treatment" of Bree, and it effected them and her, when was this change? <is there a video, that shows when the change happened?>

Mul apin


Or they coulda been like "Hey, Bree's Dad, give her this Masaphetalopicusinosis regime!"
and he goes "oh sure, Evil Order! Cough and switch medicines!"
Order: What was that last thing you said??
Bree's Dad: <.< >.>"Oh sure".[/quote]

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:22 pm
by Spades
Kanazaka wrote:That's because (IMHO) the ceremony was more or less a ruse to coerce Bree into allowing the Order to do whatever it is they need to do to carry out their still-secret plans (involving ribozymes and possibly the reversal of aging, or a race of immortal Order members, etc.). I don't think that they needed to perform it on a certain date, but decided to tie it to a special holiday in order to coerce Bree.
I always thought the Order was full of it, and the "ceremony" was just an excuse to experiment or take stuff out of Bree. I think the show is leaning more towards this, especially that Bree herself told us that HoO was just the recruiting arm.

But I think there was a theory on it happening on the summer solstice. But that is just in 5 days of this post, and that would be really weird to just hit the fast forward button and go, "Ok, ceremony time." So, once again, as stated by me in May, we are out of straws.