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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:57 pm
by chershaytoute
Does it have to be BLOOD to get a sample? Could it be gotten from something strands of hair, etc.?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:00 pm
by kellylen
the paper said blood.

maybe vagina juices? take it off of jonas?

honestly I don't know.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:41 pm
by Ixlikexchalk
considering how P. Monkey is oh so popular for hiding items in, maybe all we have to do is rip off is head. Maybe Bree's dad kept a vile in there.

I don't know, but c'mon I miss P. Monkey!...and Owen!...and what about Thor? ( oh wait, this is totally irrelavent...)

Go back to Bree's house. Her dad might have stored some samples there. Or steal the samples they carry at the hospital she was born in (but since we don't know that...) hack into the nearest hospital's computer files and find all the trait positive blood from there.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:50 pm
by thoughtssopoetic
Ixlikexchalk wrote:considering how P. Monkey is oh so popular for hiding items in, maybe all we have to do is rip off is head. Maybe Bree's dad kept a vile in there.

I don't know, but c'mon I miss P. Monkey!...and Owen!...and what about Thor? ( oh wait, this is totally irrelavent...)

Go back to Bree's house. Her dad might have stored some samples there. Or steal the samples they carry at the hospital she was born in (but since we don't know that...) hack into the nearest hospital's computer files and find all the trait positive blood from there.
that crossed my mind at one point, but the thing is it is blood. Once extracted, if blood is not stored in a cold, usually refrigerated area some of the values that are used in a lot of blood tests become invalid. Also, a lot of times blood is tossed after a certain amount of time, again, it is values in the blood that change and therefore make any tests that would be done on this blood void. I have no idea exactly how this effects Spencer's ability to synthesize the sample, but that is what I know.
Where my parents work (they both work as medical technologists) they only keep blood samples for around a week.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:57 pm
by Ixlikexchalk
thoughtssopoetic wrote:
Ixlikexchalk wrote:considering how P. Monkey is oh so popular for hiding items in, maybe all we have to do is rip off is head. Maybe Bree's dad kept a vile in there.

I don't know, but c'mon I miss P. Monkey!...and Owen!...and what about Thor? ( oh wait, this is totally irrelavent...)

Go back to Bree's house. Her dad might have stored some samples there. Or steal the samples they carry at the hospital she was born in (but since we don't know that...) hack into the nearest hospital's computer files and find all the trait positive blood from there.
that crossed my mind at one point, but the thing is it is blood. Once extracted, if blood is not stored in a cold, usually refrigerated area some of the values that are used in a lot of blood tests become invalid. Also, a lot of times blood is tossed after a certain amount of time, again, it is values in the blood that change and therefore make any tests that would be done on this blood void. I have no idea exactly how this effects Spencer's ability to synthesize the sample, but that is what I know.
Where my parents work (they both work as medical technologists) they only keep blood samples for around a week.
dag, yo.
WELL...although that's true, the hacking idea could still work. I'm sure there are alot of blood samples to be found that are fresh...of course, I doubt there are that many that are trait positive considering how special Bree is because of her blood.
Is it possible to track down a trait positive person and get a blood sample within a week though? There's not enough time.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:58 pm
by kellylen
i still think we need the blood specifically from bree

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:59 pm
by thoughtssopoetic
I definitely think the sample should be from Bree.
What if the mutations are different?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:01 pm
by TOSG
kellylen wrote:
maybe vagina juices? take it off of jonas?
Haha, if it's STILL on Jonas, I'd be a little bit worried...

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:08 pm
by Ixlikexchalk
so the only choice left would be to rescue Bree...again... lock her in a room...again... and try to find some way to draw blood while she's brainwashed?
Wait, is she still brainswashed? There was speculation that she fled back to the Order with a clear mind. I don't know.

Even if they could do that, How is that a garuntee that the Order would finally leave her alone?

I personally think all this leaked information is a trap

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:15 pm
by kellylen
thoughtssopoetic wrote:I definitely think the sample should be from Bree.
What if the mutations are different?
thats the point im trying to make. they are called mutations for a reason. it shouldnt be the same in each order girl

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:20 pm
by thoughtssopoetic
Okay, but where do we go from here?

Spencerrrrrr, where are youuuu?
we need you and your crazy amazing brain.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:37 pm
by marlasinger
TOSG wrote:
kellylen wrote:
maybe vagina juices? take it off of jonas?
Haha, if it's STILL on Jonas, I'd be a little bit worried...
Jonas, looking down at himself, so proud that he's no longer a virgin:
"I will never...wash you....again."

We need to find her, like I said, and quickly.


On edit: I'm really not if he active strand is sequenced differently in another trait positive girl, since the trait itself is being tested for by the HoO - they're looking for something, obviously, very specific. I have a strange feeling that the trait itself is common to all the girls, and that just the mutation is unique. Although to me that intuitively goes against what Isaac's research states.

I'll be willing to believe it if Spencer explains it properly, how's that. Yes?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:43 pm
by kellylen
yes but marla if the trait is the same but the mutation is different that doesnt necessarily mean that the strand from 1 order girl would match up with bree

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:35 pm
by Krisology
TOSG wrote:
kellylen wrote:
maybe vagina juices? take it off of jonas?
Haha, if it's STILL on Jonas, I'd be a little bit worried...
Maybe he kept the condom as a souvenir. :lol:

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:59 am
by Claupis
Krisology.. even that way tha sample would be dead by now.. and it doesn't have to be blood but i'll be much easier if it's blood or a healthy cell..