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Post by WonkaNerdsRule »

Yes, they look like horns to me too. If he does have horns, that doesn't necessarily mean he's evil. In fact, Moses was sometimes depicted as having horns due to a translation issue. We need to keep our minds open in our search.
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yeah, i will try to get a shot at pupin from an angle - i think the angle may make the difference in how it looks. It was the hairline that got me - pupin had that hornlike hairline that looked like horns from certain angles. My father also has a paperweight of some sort of him (or used to have one) and I remember asking about him when I was younger.

It's just a guess i'm throwing out there.

But what about the OTHER side - not the binders - the part of the bookshelf bree's head covers for the majority of the time.

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Marbella wrote:Yeah, you're right, Aideen..

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This is a closer shot of the bookcase with the sculpture. I believe that the books look like blue and black binders with labels. Also, it almost looks to me as if the statue has horns.

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I thought it looked more like a crown.
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Marbella wrote:Yeah, you're right, Aideen..
Woah. Never heard that before.

I agree with the apparent horns on the statue. That's why I had a small suspicion it was the Devil
onsweetavenue wrote:yeah, i will try to get a shot at pupin from an angle - i think the angle may make the difference in how it looks. It was the hairline that got me - pupin had that hornlike hairline that looked like horns from certain angles. My father also has a paperweight of some sort of him (or used to have one) and I remember asking about him when I was younger.

It's just a guess i'm throwing out there.

But what about the OTHER side - not the binders - the part of the bookshelf bree's head covers for the majority of the time.

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The first thing on the right looks like a cow standing up or a thermos wrapped in a tea towel or something. Maybe it's a jar of entrails? Blood? A canopic jar?
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The binders don't have any labels on them...those are just the normal tags that come on a binder...sometimes people don't peel them off...it just says the size binder and the barcode usually.
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Hmm.. nobackspace button.. I believe you are right!

I had struggled to get the writing on the binders to come out more clearly.. but there's no point. They DO look like the stickers that just come from the store.

Aideen, you are often right. I included your synopsis in my "daily catch up" a few days back.
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Oh and onsweetavenue.. I will try to do a close-up of that, OK.. but I think we're using about the same software, so I have no idea whether mine will come out clearer and more detailed!!
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The thing to the right...it looks like some kind of cow figure thing. Like a glass cow. One that maybe is a cookie jar, but since its a bedroom, its probably just a random nick nac(sp?).
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Looks like a cow cookie jar to me. You know, those ones that you find in the dollar store.
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Yeah, me too sweetie.
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**Summoning the little bible bits I remember from Catholic school**

When Moses went up on Mt. Sanai to get the 10 commandments, the people got sick of waiting for him and they decided his God sucked, and they'd make a new one. So they made a statue of a golden calf...er, baby cow...and started worshipping it.

Boy was Moses pissed when he found out. :lol:

Anyway, a cow statue on a bookshelf made me think of the golden calf from that story.

Probably no connection whatsoever.
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its a cow cokie jar you open it up and it goes MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Whoa. There is ALOT to do with a cow and the order of denderah. Such as, the Cow of Hathor.

"The main building of interest at Dendera is the Temple of Hathor (the cow-headed goddess of fertility)." Link: http://members.cox.net/ancient-sites/egypt/Dendera.htm

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Hathor
Link:http://socsci.colorado.edu/LAB/GODS/hathor.html
(Athyr)

Egyptian cow goddess. Daughter of Nut and Re. In early Egyptian mythology she was the mother of the sky god Horus, but was later replaced in this capacity by Isis. Hathor then became a protectress of Horus. She was depicted either as a cow or in human form wearing a crown consisting of a sun disk held between the horns of a cow.

Her name appears to mean "house of Horus", referring to her role as a sky goddess, the "house" denoting the heavens depicted as a great cow. Hathor was often regarded as the mother of the Egyptian pharaoh, who styled himself the "son of Hathor". Since the pharaoh was also considered to be Horus as the son of Isis, it might be surmised that this had its origin when Horus was considered to be the son of Hathor.

Hathor took on an uncharacteristically destructive aspect in the legend of the Eye of Re. According to this legend, Re sent the Eye of Re in the form of Hathor to destroy humanity, believing that they were plotting aganist him. However, Re changed his mind and flooded the fields with beer, dyed red to look like blood. Hathor stopped to drink the beer, and, having become intoxicated, never carried out her deadly mission.

Hathor was often symbolized by the papyrus reed, the snake, and the Egyptian rattle known as the sistrum. Her image could also be used to form the capitals of columns in Egyptian architecture. Her principal sanctuary was at Dandarah, where her cult had its early focus, and where it may have had its origin. At Dandarah, she was particularly worshipped in her role as a goddess of fertility, of women, and of childbirth. At Thebes she was regarded as a goddess of the dead under the title of the "Lady of the West", associated with the sun god Re on his descent below the western horizon. The Greeks identified Hathor with Aphrodite.


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This group statue depicts the sacred cow of Hathor protecting two worshippers. The inscriptions specify that these are the troop-commander Pabes and his wife Taweretemheb. Pabes is the owner of one of the little chapels excavated in 1986, and the statue must have stood there originally. It was acquired in 1828 with the Anastasi collection.
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Also:

Dendera is the location of the Temple of Hathor, the Great Mother, the goddess of love, beauty, and music, commonly portrayed as a woman with cow's ears, but sometimes as a cow.

Link: http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~reardonf/Egyp ... /Luxor.htm

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Remember all that research we did on the order of Denderah and Hathor and all those theories we had? Maybe not in vain..
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More information on Hathor:

Hathor
(also Het-Heru and Het-Hert)
Her cult center was at Dendera
and there she was worshipped as
a supreme goddess. Her devout
followers believed she created
everything, including all the other
gods.
In a Hymn to Ra found
in the Papyrus of Nekht, it is
written "O thou beautiful being,
thou dost renew thyself in thy
season in the form of the Disk
within thy mother Hathor". This
is contrary to the later belief
that Ra was self-begotten.
More commonly she is said to be
the daughter and/or wife of Ra.

In The Gods of the Egyptians,
Budge writes the following:
"She was, in fact, the great mother
of the world, and the old, cosmic
Hathor was the personification of
the great power of nature which was
perpetually conceiving, and creating,
and bringing forth, and rearing, and
maintaining all things, both great and
small. She was the "mother of her
father, and the daughter of her
son," and heaven, earth and the
Underworld were under her rule,
and she was the mother of every
god and every goddess."
Volume I, page 431

Her most ancient form was that
of a cow.
A flint found with her
symbols on it dates her worship
to predynastic times.
Hathor is most commonly depicted
as a woman with horns and the
solar disk upon her head, carrying
an ankh and sceptre
. See figure 1.
Sometimes she is depicted as a
woman with a head-dress of
plumes and a vulture. See figure 2.
In her role as "lady of the Holy
Land" or the Underworld, she is
seen as a cow emerging from the
funeral mountain or standing on a
boat surrounded by very high
papyrus plants. See figure 3.
Less common representations
include that of a woman with the
head of a lioness and also of a
sphinx wearing a vulture head-
dress. As the cow of the Under-
world and the sphinx she wears the
Menat emblem which represents
pleasure and joy.

Her Egyptian name Het-Hert
translates to the House Above,
referring to part of the sky
or heaven. Another title, Het-
Heru, means House of Horus
and refers to the path across
the sky taken by the ancient sun
god Horus.

Hathor was worshipped throughout Egypt and was associated
with many other goddess. Because of her numerous forms
and manifestations she was at times worshipped as the Hathors.
According to Budge the Seven Hathors of Dendera were:
1.) Hathor ofThebes
2.) Hathor of Heliopolis
3.) Hathor of Aphroditopolis
4.) Hathor of the Sinaitic Peninsula
5.) Hathor of Momemphis (Ammu)
6.) Hathor of Herakleopolis
7.) Hathor of Keset
Other cities had their own unique group of 7 - 12 Hathors,
each being associated with a different city and/or goddess
.

Hathor was a goddess of all that was good and beautiful about
women (i.e. the perfect wife, mother, daughter, etc.). She
was a goddess of art, music, dancing, wine, beer and patron
goddess of entertainers of all sorts. She was also a goddess
of love, later being identified with the Greek Aphrodite.


In the Underworld the deceased claims to have the eyes
of Hathor and that she provides him with food and drink and
also encourages him to fight the beast Apep.


Link: http://www.fruitofthenile.com/hathor.htm
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