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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:07 pm
by Languorous Lass
Innnnnnnnnnnteresting. Thanks for the link -- I didn't think of looking in Wikipedia.
BTW, ironic coincidence: when I clicked the link, up popped an ad for Lasik surgery . . . with a huge photo of an eye.
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:07 pm
by covedweller
Kimmi-Chan wrote:maybe they stopped by his parents' house before they left, or called from the road, I dunno.
This is one of those OpAphid tie-in things, but in a phone message in the game it says that Daniel has missed his JC classes and his mom thinks he is camping. We got this phone message last Thursday. You hear it on the in-game voicemail of the Tachyon's partner: 310-933-5901
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:08 pm
by DontHaveAClue
Languorous Lass wrote:Innnnnnnnnnnteresting. Thanks for the link -- I didn't think of looking in Wikipedia.
BTW, ironic coincidence: when I clicked the link, up popped an ad for Lasik surgery . . . with a huge photo of an eye.

the illuminati! There are everywhere! Trainer is right.....
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:10 pm
by Languorous Lass
So, DontHaveAClue, you think the music is a diegetic element of the video? Having read the Wikipedia description, I would tend to think it's non-diegetic in this particular vid. But I suspect you might not agree.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:12 pm
by trainer101
Languorous Lass wrote:Innnnnnnnnnnteresting. Thanks for the link -- I didn't think of looking in Wikipedia.
BTW, ironic coincidence: when I clicked the link, up popped an ad for Lasik surgery . . . with a huge photo of an eye.
Uh Oh! You are being WATCHED!

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:21 pm
by DontHaveAClue
Languorous Lass wrote:So, DontHaveAClue, you think the music is a diegetic element of the video? Having read the Wikipedia description, I would tend to think it's non-diegetic in this particular vid. But I suspect you might not agree.

Ok, there we will go a little deeper into the stuff. In general diegetic sounds are sounds created by objects visible in the frame. In cinema, however, when the music follows the action and create a climax with the events, it is considered diegetic. Because even if it's obviously off screen it's an element that tells the story seen on screen. It was the case in that vid. Now imagine a scene where a woman is calmly walking at night through her house, unsuspecting of anything, but you know the killer is behind the door and the music is really dramatic while there is nothing dramatic at all about that woman simply walking in her house....then the music tells a different story, that's an other level of narration, and it is extra-diegetic. You have to think in terms of levels of narration. What is told, what is suggested. What is seen, what is not. The difference can be sometimes really thin.
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:33 pm
by DontHaveAClue
Anyway, all this is pretty boring if you're not into literature and story telling, but if you're interested in it, I strongly suggest you read Gerard Genette's Narratice Discourse: an Essay in Method. It's brilliant.
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:30 pm
by Languorous Lass
Thanks for the info, DontHaveAClue. I am interested in literature and storytelling, but I was in college before the days of the deconstructionists, so a lot of the concepts associated with them are new to me.