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freakish wrote:I'm in Louisiana, and there are many of them here.longlostposter wrote:Excellent point, voyboy.voyboy wrote: Why not? It wouldnt mean another character nessessarily, but the Foundation itself.
Gogo has displayed nothing but excellence in the videos and the forming of the character Ms. Rose. If anyone deserves a nod, it's her.
how do you know lordgreystoke isnt canon? i, for one, have a very hard time believing someone could be that crazy....
Cajuns are just plain nuts!Excellent analysis, AM; you've put into words exactly what I was thinking as well (the only exception being four).AM wrote:See, I am thinking that a 'real' person, not an agent doing a job, would have kicked them both out. Maybe a super decent person would have given them some money and steered them towards civilization but that's about it.iamcool wrote:i would have refused to take bree if she done that to me
The fact that he is still with the two of them says to me that he must be an agent doing a job. Now, I agree with lurker that he could be an agent for good or an agent for evil.
I personally would love, love love to see him turn out to be evil but that is just a personal preference. The evidence doesn't tell us one way or the other.
I think him being evil sets the story up for the most interesting plot twists and the best intrigue. Here is why;
1) Bree will discover shit about him and nobody will believe her.
2)She will second guess herself.
3) Him being evil will eventually vindicate her and, after all her crap, she badly needs vindicating. Who isn't completely sick of Bree but wants to like her? Every time she does something likable it gets taken away from us.
4) Jonas being bad will throw Bree and Daniel into eachother's arms.
5) Jonas being evil gives Bree and Daniel a chance to work together Tachyon style to get away. Again, a more interesting plot twist than them being rescued.
6)Do the creators really want her to just be 'that dumb girl'. I for one would hate that. Damsel in distress is so old. If the series ended with Bree not genuinely growing up and being right, saving the day, about something major, I for one will be quite disappointed.
7)If he's evil but then grows attached to them and then has a change of heart at the last minute, it would add complexity and depth to his character. At this point only Daniel has complexity and depth. Jonas and Bree have never seemed 'real' to me. Making Jonas conflicted is so much more interesting than leaving Jonas two dimensional and too nice.
To summarize; I agree with lurker, he could be an agent for good or evil. It would make no sense if he were just a nice guy but nothing else. He is hiding something. My personal preference is that he's evil. It would IMO send the plot in the most interesting direction.
The evidence does not tell us one way or the other (as far as I can see).
This is a really good analysis... Good Job! Any of these plot twists are possible...AM wrote: See, I am thinking that a 'real' person, not an agent doing a job, would have kicked them both out. Maybe a super decent person would have given them some money and steered them towards civilization but that's about it.
The fact that he is still with the two of them says to me that he must be an agent doing a job. Now, I agree with lurker that he could be an agent for good or an agent for evil.
I personally would love, love love to see him turn out to be evil but that is just a personal preference. The evidence doesn't tell us one way or the other.
I think him being evil sets the story up for the most interesting plot twists and the best intrigue. Here is why;
1) Bree will discover shit about him and nobody will believe her.
2)She will second guess herself.
3) Him being evil will eventually vindicate her and, after all her crap, she badly needs vindicating. Who isn't completely sick of Bree but wants to like her? Every time she does something likable it gets taken away from us.
4) Jonas being bad will throw Bree and Daniel into eachother's arms.
5) Jonas being evil gives Bree and Daniel a chance to work together Tachyon style to get away. Again, a more interesting plot twist than them being rescued.
6)Do the creators really want her to just be 'that dumb girl'. I for one would hate that. Damsel in distress is so old. If the series ended with Bree not genuinely growing up and being right, saving the day, about something major, I for one will be quite disappointed.
7)If he's evil but then grows attached to them and then has a change of heart at the last minute, it would add complexity and depth to his character. At this point only Daniel has complexity and depth. Jonas and Bree have never seemed 'real' to me. Making Jonas conflicted is so much more interesting than leaving Jonas two dimensional and too nice.
To summarize; I agree with lurker, he could be an agent for good or evil. It would make no sense if he were just a nice guy but nothing else. He is hiding something. My personal preference is that he's evil. It would IMO send the plot in the most interesting direction.
The evidence does not tell us one way or the other (as far as I can see).
Exactly! Thank you (and I appreciate the nice things you said about my postsJonas is so ambiguous that the only way his character makes any sense at all is to be putting on a big show for Bree and Daniel. If he isn't doing this, then he's just wishy-washy, and convenient for B&D, as well as the plot. As far as Bree goes, her continuing inability to handle this in a mature manner (granted, it's to be expected in a 17 year old), has made her seem spineless and victimized. On top of this, she is narcisstic and is coping with the situation by untilizing denial when necessary. While I don't fault her for this, as her situation would be tough for someone a decade older than her to handle (especially considering how sheltered she grew up), she has to evolve into a mature woman at some point, or she is just plain annoying and forgetable. One thing I think the Creators wouldn't want is to make Bree forgettable; she is the inspiration for the series, if she is forgettable, so is the entire series.
. It means a lot coming from you. Thanks longlostposter and jeezy).freakish wrote:longlostposter wrote:Well its not so much that he's crazy or isn't crazy. Canon means part of the offical storyline. The creators haven't given Lordgreystoke the offical nod, his video's are fanfiction, they refer to the offical storyline but they do not affect the offical storyline. Now the question of the sanity of Lordgreystoke is a question for another day and another part of the forum...voyboy wrote:
how do you know lordgreystoke isnt canon? i, for one, have a very hard time believing someone could be that crazy....
Give up the dream. He ain't evil. He's her brother! He was even acting like her brother in that video.AM wrote:Jonas sounded quite omenous when he said three was a crowd. I think he is plotting how to get rid of Bree. I seriously hope he turns out to be evil. It would suck if he turned out to be good and Bree turned out to be wrong. I hope there is some weird twist where he leads them into a trap and they have to escape.
Absolutely! I can't tell you how often my older brother did the "all I hear is an annoying buzz" thing to me! Such a sib thing to do!janesalteredstates wrote: Give up the dream. He ain't evil. He's her brother! He was even acting like her brother in that video.
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No one cannon has actually used that name, have they? Though, obviously, using the initials on the report has to be a nod to Nikki B.janesalteredstates wrote:Oh and about "Drew Avery." Didn't NikkiB just make that up? Why is it now fact that that is Bree's dad's name?
