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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:56 pm
by Ravensnow27
thinkitthrough wrote:
Ravensnow27 wrote:P.S. the stone was in the center of a significant ley line that lined up with stonehenge
Hmmmm. could the locations on the map intersect another important point on the earth. like the north pole is point (A) and the south pole is the complementary point (B)
See thats a possibility like if Bree did her little walk along a ley line that matched up with an important site somewhere else, or possibly there are a few chosen people, like North, South, East and West and they all have to do it at the same time or something.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:01 pm
by thinkitthrough
Ravensnow27 wrote:
thinkitthrough wrote:
Ravensnow27 wrote:P.S. the stone was in the center of a significant ley line that lined up with stonehenge
Hmmmm. could the locations on the map intersect another important point on the earth. like the north pole is point (A) and the south pole is the complementary point (B)
See thats a possibility like if Bree did her little walk along a ley line that matched up with an important site somewhere else, or possibly there are a few chosen people, like North, South, East and West and they all have to do it at the same time or something.
I just wonder what the cermony is suppost to accomplish? If a power is extracted from the earth or the Universe! I always wondered why the creators named the site the LG15 Universe! haha,... but seriously*cough's to clear throat*

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:48 pm
by epogen
i'm almost positive that meridian refers to some sort of astrological connection, bringing us back to the zodiac of dendrah. astrological placement and characteristics would definitely be tied into meridians ( ie what star is in what position to what meridian) if that makes sense. would also speak to characteristics that girls would be "born" with making them marked for the ceremony.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:56 pm
by thinkitthrough
epogen wrote:i'm almost positive that meridian refers to some sort of astrological connection, bringing us back to the zodiac of dendrah. astrological placement and characteristics would definitely be tied into meridians ( ie what star is in what position to what meridian) if that makes sense. would also speak to characteristics that girls would be "born" with making them marked for the ceremony.
I guess I just want some real connection into all of the different clues we have been given over the last (almost a year now!) or how ever long it is. Crowley, Cermony, Enochian, the family that disappeared, the maps on the computer, the pills(iron) or otherwise, Epogen injections, Cassie, the birthmark, of course the meridian, and so on... yet no one has found anything that ties this all together with all the research that everyone has done.

I have learned a lot about all of these things however and I have learned to research faster and to never trust what you are being told until you look into it for your self.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:15 pm
by epogen
thinkitthrough wrote: I guess I just want some real connection into all of the different clues we have been given over the last (almost a year now!) or how ever long it is. Crowley, Cermony, Enochian, the family that disappeared, the maps on the computer, the pills(iron) or otherwise, Epogen injections, Cassie, the birthmark, of course the meridian, and so on... yet no one has found anything that ties this all together with all the research that everyone has done.

I have learned a lot about all of these things however and I have learned to research faster and to never trust what you are being told until you look into it for your self.
i know what you mean. i would like some continuity myself :?
however, astrology ties into all this too.... crowley, denderah, enochian are all linked at least, and the maps could be locating spots where a certain planet, or constellation would cross a meridian.....that is, if we are to assume that the ceremony is the reason for the injections/pills. still would love an answer on that one.

edit to add: i am not totally ruling out geographical connections. it is entirely possible that there are places that are important due to their psychic energy or the like, and that denderah is one of those places as it is a temple as well......but if this is so, then how does it relate to bree's "chosen-ness" for the ceremony?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:13 pm
by Ravensnow27
I just found something kinda cool, so many, many ley lines run through Glastonbury Tor, which, has a spiral sorta path all around it, anyway there is a festival there every year on the summer soltice.

Go here for a map of the ley lines:

http://www.glastonburytor.org.uk/leymap.html

and here for the festival:

http://www.efestivals.co.uk/festivals/glastonbury/2007/

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:54 pm
by mincartaugh
epogen wrote:
thinkitthrough wrote: I guess I just want some real connection into all of the different clues we have been given over the last (almost a year now!) or how ever long it is. Crowley, Cermony, Enochian, the family that disappeared, the maps on the computer, the pills(iron) or otherwise, Epogen injections, Cassie, the birthmark, of course the meridian, and so on... yet no one has found anything that ties this all together with all the research that everyone has done.
i know what you mean. i would like some continuity myself :?
however, astrology ties into all this too.... crowley, denderah, enochian are all linked at least, and the maps could be locating spots where a certain planet, or constellation would cross a meridian.....that is, if we are to assume that the ceremony is the reason for the injections/pills. still would love an answer on that one.

edit to add: i am not totally ruling out geographical connections. it is entirely possible that there are places that are important due to their psychic energy or the like, and that denderah is one of those places as it is a temple as well......but if this is so, then how does it relate to bree's "chosen-ness" for the ceremony?
What a cool thread this is turning out to be!
What if the Meridian reference is to both the ley lines and the astrological meridians. Ley lines are often referenced when speaking of magic, right? So what if the ceremony is specifically to re-align the Zodiac of Denderah and the reference points of the ley lines? Didn't Bree say that the Denderah Zodiac was considered incorrect by the main populace because it referred to the constellations as they looked a long time in the past. (I'm too lazy to look up the reference, but I'm sure I heard something like that, somewhere!) What if the ceremony (that includes some kind of a walk or dance, right?) will re-establish the ley lines in a different configuration so that they will again work to (he cringes and says the next really fast) bring magic back into the world?
don't hit

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:20 pm
by longlostposter
Pics of Solstices at Stonehenge:

http://www.tiny.cc/otGG1

I find Stonehenge to be quite beautiful. I don't know what it is about the place, but just pics make me feel very spiritual and peaceful.

EDIT: To tiny URL. Sorry folks.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:52 pm
by giddeanx
Here are some pictures of the meridians (energy flows) in human beings.

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Just of a little seperation from geography.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:58 pm
by consideration
Looks like someone's having extensive plastic surgery to me.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:01 pm
by longlostposter
Gidd, I work with body energy all the time. Believe me, this stuff works and makes you feel like a million bucks.

Link to a good training site for energy raising:
http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=3

It's a little tedious to learn at first, but it's well worth it to learn.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:10 pm
by Spades
not to rain on anyone's parade here, but the Order or OpAphid may not care for the ceremony at all. It could just be a front, or "recruiting arm" as Bree said herself.

The sole purpose of doing the ceremony might only be to make sure the followers do not lose their faith and leave. If the religion is a front, and if it collapsed, they would lose a HUGE amount of their finances, and they would only have the pharmaseuticals they are connected with, as well as losing a lot of manpower. With the money in half and the manpower decreased signifacantly, it would be a perfect chance to attack.

Perhaps this is why Tachyon is helping Bree...

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:11 pm
by epogen
mincartaugh wrote:What if the Meridian reference is to both the ley lines and the astrological meridians. Ley lines are often referenced when speaking of magic, right? So what if the ceremony is specifically to re-align the Zodiac of Denderah and the reference points of the ley lines? Didn't Bree say that the Denderah Zodiac was considered incorrect by the main populace because it referred to the constellations as they looked a long time in the past. (I'm too lazy to look up the reference, but I'm sure I heard something like that, somewhere!) What if the ceremony (that includes some kind of a walk or dance, right?) will re-establish the ley lines in a different configuration so that they will again work to (he cringes and says the next really fast) bring magic back into the world?
don't hit
hmm i like it....going back to the magic of the ancients by way of a modern individual, sounds like a mythical archetype of some sort.

very interesting, and much nicer than sex magick theories.....
though i have trouble making the a. crowley connection....and the drug/injection/pills....all the others fit in nicely for me.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:40 pm
by longlostposter
Spades, we know that OpAphid is the enforcement arm and the "Hymn of One" is the recruiting branch.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:52 am
by silvermoon
Spades wrote:not to rain on anyone's parade here, but the Order or OpAphid may not care for the ceremony at all. It could just be a front, or "recruiting arm" as Bree said herself.
If this were the case, why would they specifically need Bree to do the ceremony? Wouldn't any Order girl do just as well, if it's all a front?