xentis's evil deeds

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:57 am

I heart him.

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:07 am

I guess that yeah, it does matter. Because before I had kids, I wasn't going to feed into the holidays powered by companies looking to make millions because it was just pure crap. Then I had my son and my hard line kinda shriveled up and went away

Its not that I don't understand what you are saying, I completely do. I know that my son was happy believing in all those dumb stories we tell our kids and when he discovered on his own that everyone has the capabilty to be Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy (personally, I still want to be a Fairy when I grow up

) it was a big deal for him. Not in the "my parents are assholes, they lied to me this whole time, how can I ever trust them again" kind of way, but in a "how can I be involved and help" kind of way.

I'm sure most of it is the way we approached things. Whenever he asked if those made up people/things were real, we told him they could be. I guess its just that I want my kids to ask questions and search for the answers on their own, in their own way, so we deliberately gave them open ended answers, so they would continue to ask questions. Obviously, no one way of raising kids is right, its all a matter of opinion.

All I know, is that when my daughter does that crazy belly-laugh of hers when she's running around the yard looking for eggs the Easter Bunny hid, the world kinda seems not so crappy.

AutoPilate · Post by **AutoPilate** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:10 am

How could you possibly lose that by her knowing it was you who put the eggs there? Seriously.

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:19 am

I couldn't lose that at all, but I want my kids to make the discoveries on their own, in their own time and on their terms. Telling them the truth from the beginning is no worse or better then telling them to believe in these stories. Telling them the stories and then encouraging them to discover the truth behind them is how we've done it.
And it seems to be working, because I've got 2 mouthy kids who don't blindly follow others

(I don't know where they learned to be so outspoken though

)

AutoPilate · Post by **AutoPilate** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:24 am

Anyway, if some perspective into my own childhood would help, let me relate the following:

I remember one Christmas Eve catching my dad assembling a bike for me.

No, I didn't feel betrayed, I didn't feel like raging against the lie my parents had perpetrated up until that moment. But I did feel a stronger love and measure of respect for him, knowing it'd been him all along giving me presents.

Imagine how much sooner I'd have felt that, if I hadn't been lied to previously. Imagine being the parent whose child might have always felt that towards him.

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:29 am

Totally understandable, AP and I think that we are both aiming for the same thing, just going about it in different ways.

But, as much as I would like to continue discussing this with you dearest, I need to pick my kids up from the grandparents so we can make cookies and color eggs.

And to be perfectly honest, any holiday that gives me an excuse to bake cookies is quite possibly my favorite

7Harry7Potter7 · Post by **7Harry7Potter7** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:20 pm

Wait a sec. The Easter Bunny isn't real?

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:24 pm

7Harry7Potter7 · Post by **7Harry7Potter7** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:27 pm

(and for the record, I agree with you Ziola!)

robtomorrow · Post by **robtomorrow** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:28 pm

spaciegirlreturn wrote:
I heart him.

I guess this means that the engagment is off.

Oh well, I guess it will save me some money, Vegas weddings are expensive. AP I am sure you can do a better job of satisfying Spacie's insatiable appetite that I ever could.

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:25 pm

you're not getting away that easy, mr.!! I still heart you too

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:16 pm

Am I the only one who is worried by Spacie's use of a certain heart adorned smiley?

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:25 pm

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:29 pm

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:45 pm