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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:28 am
by SoulAndroid13
I think some people are looking a little too deep into the eyes.

In all those photos, you have a mainly overhead light, and the person's head is leaning forward. This creates shadows across the eyes themselves and the cheekbones.

In the girls it is more pronounced due to eye-liner (i may have the wrong cosmetic in mind) that most girls wear.

It's a natural position for the head to take when someone is expressing submissive anger. Jonas is tied up, but he's still pissed. Bree is quite frankly a caged animal. She's not tied up, but she's obviously trapped for the moment...

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:25 am
by mellie3204
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
PolkadotConfederation wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:This struck me as strange too. I didn't think of OpAphid really. But I've seen Bree make faces like this before. In the Swimming video, especially. Sometimes I wonder if she's as innocent as she acts....
Hmmm I wonder. Especially with that sort of half smile she did. It just looked evil. Maybe it's just because she was drugged or whatever.
Exactly. The smirk was weird too.

I think she might have a few tricks up her sleeve...
maybe Tachyon taught her well....
I immediately had thoughts along this line too...

Tachyon had to know that if Bree went back out into the world that eventually the Order would try this, Tach after all has seen all this before and has intimate knowledge of how the Order works. I'm wondering if they didn't hatch a plan (to expose/get back at the Order, to obtain info, etc) for this eventuality when they were training or even before.

I even thought maybe they planned the whole "Bree getting caught" and deliberately put her in harms way for some reason making it easy for the Order to nab them. That whole Vegas Baby video with them saying "we've got to stop uploading this is how they find us"...and then uploading that vid...contrived, no?

I also think that, even if Bree seems to agree to the ceremony and this goes so far as to get to the ceremony, she's going to sabotage it somehow.

Would be uber cool if they turned the tables on these dastardly Orderites 8)

*edited for spelling yet again :P*

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:27 am
by ladysolitary85
mellie3204 wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
PolkadotConfederation wrote: Hmmm I wonder. Especially with that sort of half smile she did. It just looked evil. Maybe it's just because she was drugged or whatever.
Exactly. The smirk was weird too.

I think she might have a few tricks up her sleeve...
maybe Tachyon taught her well....
I immediately had thoughts along this line too...

Tachyon had to know that if Bree went back out into the world that eventually the Order would try this, Tach after all has seen all this before and has intimate knowledge of how the Order works. I'm wondering if they didn't hatch a plan (to expose/get back at the Order, to obtain info, etc) for this eventuality when they were training or even before.

I even thought maybe they planned the whole "Bree getting caught" and deliberately put her in harms way for some reason making it easy for the Order to nab them. That whole Vegas Baby video with them saying "we've got to stop uploading this is how they find us"...and then uploading that vid...contrived, no?

I also think that, even if Bree seems to agree to the ceremony and this goes so far as to get to the ceremony, she's going to sabotage it somehow.

Would be uber cool if they turned the tables on these dastardly Orderites 8)

*edited for spelling yet again :P*

I like your theory on this... wouldn't it be soo messed up if all the ceremony was is for her to light a candle? I bet everyone would be pissed as hell.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:04 am
by mellie3204
ladysolitary85 wrote: I like your theory on this... wouldn't it be soo messed up if all the ceremony was is for her to light a candle? I bet everyone would be pissed as hell.
:smt046 LMAO! :smt043 :smt044 :smt082

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:26 am
by ladysolitary85
mellie3204 wrote: :smt046 LMAO! :smt043 :smt044 :smt082
HAHAHAHA I can just see the boys being pissed and Daniel shouting "We were on the run for this long just so you can avoid light a damn candle???"

Bree hesitating on words looks up to Daniel "I just didn't want to get burned"

Needless to say, we would all be furious.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:21 am
by Lunafox
xxjuviexx wrote:hmm- you make a good point but rememeber that whole 'miss me' thing with "oh yea- lucy im gonna do the ceremony" it was all a trick- this might just be a trick, with tachyon behind it all.... i really dont know- just trying to make excuses to conceal the fact that the wonderful trio has been captured!!! NOOO i admitted it! lol
MAYBE THEY WANTED TO GET CAUGHT AND TAHT'S WHY DANIEL WAS LOOKING AROUND SO MUCH! AND WHY TACHY WAS WATCHING BUT SHE DIDN'T SAVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

whops... damn that's what i get for not reading the whole thread before I talk :D

what i ment to say was JINX!!

You owe me an orange slurpee :lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:21 pm
by Ravensnow27
kiyoshi wrote:There's possibly some link between all of them having that "evil eye" in certain scenes.

I find it amusing how Jonas gave the evil eye when he was apprehended, and how Bree gave the evil eye when she was apprehended as well.

So maybe OpAphid did get brainwashed too.
Maybe it's her mom.
Maybe it's someone.
*gasp.*

We won't know until the videos reach that point though. T_T

And xxjuviexx, do you think you can resize your avatar? I believe it's way too large to be an avatar. x_x;;


- edit -
Nevermind, I believe you just changed your avatar.
xD
Well, if Jonas and Bree are indeed order babies perhaps the whole evil eye thing is just a reaction to authority that was implanted at a young age. Like they're partioned off that part of their mind and it surfaces under certain circumstances

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:04 pm
by Languorous Lass
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
PolkadotConfederation wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:This struck me as strange too. I didn't think of OpAphid really. But I've seen Bree make faces like this before. In the Swimming video, especially. Sometimes I wonder if she's as innocent as she acts....
Hmmm I wonder. Especially with that sort of half smile she did. It just looked evil. Maybe it's just because she was drugged or whatever.
Exactly. The smirk was weird too.

I think she might have a few tricks up her sleeve...
maybe Tachyon taught her well....
Or maybe Jess just did a not-so-great acting job here, and couldn't keep from smirking/cracking up during the scene.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:35 pm
by Kanazaka
I'm liking the ceremony sabotage theory. I have a feeling that only Bree may be in on it, though, since she seems more lucid than Jonas and Daniel.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:43 pm
by Jo_16_2
Ravensnow27 wrote:
kiyoshi wrote:There's possibly some link between all of them having that "evil eye" in certain scenes.

I find it amusing how Jonas gave the evil eye when he was apprehended, and how Bree gave the evil eye when she was apprehended as well.

So maybe OpAphid did get brainwashed too.
Maybe it's her mom.
Maybe it's someone.
*gasp.*

We won't know until the videos reach that point though. T_T

And xxjuviexx, do you think you can resize your avatar? I believe it's way too large to be an avatar. x_x;;


- edit -
Nevermind, I believe you just changed your avatar.
xD
Well, if Jonas and Bree are indeed order babies perhaps the whole evil eye thing is just a reaction to authority that was implanted at a young age. Like they're partioned off that part of their mind and it surfaces under certain circumstances
damn, i'm an order baby :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
*starts packing up stuff*

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:53 pm
by Melisa
Brees eyes rock.

*points to avatar*

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:18 pm
by longlostposter
I think it's ridiculous to conclude that Bree is with the Order. They look she gave is the look of a trapped animal; and we know that Bree is indeed trapped. She's justifiably angry as hell; these people want not only her life, but her soul as well. I think anyone in these circumstances would be reduced to an animal-like angry glare.

Referring to Trainer's pics, we can see Jonas' angry eyes are almost identical to Bree's. We know Jonas is not in the Order now, and his look was just the look of someone feeling trapped. This is why Jonas' look in "Interrogation 101" is similar to the look Bree gave in this video.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:28 pm
by Jo_16_2
longlostposter wrote:I think it's ridiculous to conclude that Bree is with the Order. They look she gave is the look of a trapped animal; and we know that Bree is indeed trapped. She's justifiably angry as hell; these people want not only her life, but her soul as well. I think anyone in these circumstances would be reduced to an animal-like angry glare.
yep yep, been there, done that. :wink: 8)

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:59 pm
by SoulAndroid13
longlostposter wrote:I think it's ridiculous to conclude that Bree is with the Order. They look she gave is the look of a trapped animal; and we know that Bree is indeed trapped. She's justifiably angry as hell; these people want not only her life, but her soul as well. I think anyone in these circumstances would be reduced to an animal-like angry glare.

Referring to Trainer's pics, we can see Jonas' angry eyes are almost identical to Bree's. We know Jonas is not in the Order now, and his look was just the look of someone feeling trapped. This is why Jonas' look in "Interrogation 101" is similar to the look Bree gave in this video.
Didn't I say that already?

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:54 am
by longlostposter
accidental double post. Sorry.