Lonelygirl15

loobylou wrote:Of course, there's always the possibility that some of what Bree said is bluff. Could there be a reason for that? Is it in their interest to pretend there's a wedge between Bree and Jonas?

Not if it calls for something that the Order would know they had nothing to do with.

That second thought of yours, there...I've been wrestling with that, too.

Ahhh...time for me to be off...

Good points. If the thing was in Jonas' sock drawer, much different than if it were say, stuck in a box of old junk in the attic.

We need more info.

Yeah we do...but it's so much fun to second guess the creators!

This has probably been said before too, but what if Bree made it herself so she would have and excuse to put Jonas in bondage

Ok. I know. Not plausible. But how many Jonas is hawt fans would do it in a heart beat if they had the chance?

loobylou wrote:Sami -

If you can't believe it of Daniel, could you believe he was brainwashed by the order to do it?

I don't think he's brainwashed at the moment.
But if he is, then he could do it.

But Daniel said that Jonas said it had always been there. Heresay, yes, but it's not coming from Bree. Then again, if Daniel's trying to get *everyone* against Jonas, that's the way to do it. Make us hate him too.

I won't, he's too cute. I'm a sucker for that smile.

sororyzbl wrote:But Daniel said that Jonas said it had always been there. Heresay, yes, but it's not coming from Bree. Then again, if Daniel's trying to get *everyone* against Jonas, that's the way to do it. Make us hate him too.

I won't, he's too cute. I'm a sucker for that smile.

Jonas never pointed the symbol out. If he knew it was there why didn't he say anything?
I don't think Jonas would be stupid enough to keep an Op symbol in his house. So it might have been Daniel. Why would we trust Daniel? Just because he's been there from the start?

Okay. so I have been watching these movies and reading the posts for ages now...

i even started researching things...but never posted anything (usually because people had already posted them)

anyways...i was just thinking...jonas said (or told daniel) that he had seen the symbol/artwork thing for his life. This means that most likely, it had been there when his parents were alive.

So then i remembered that his parents dissappeared in a sailing accident. so then i thought..."hmmm...maybe this isnt greek, but something that has to do with sailing". Now, I personally dont sail, but I know people that do, so i know stuff about it. Well...when someone is traveling out at sea, they often (or used to?) carry flags about to tell something to passing ships.

for example: http://z.about.com/d/sailing/1/8/O/bravo.jpg
that means "dangerous cargo"

so...me and my smart-self thought "lets see if there are flags that look like a similar shape to the symbol...and see what it means.

so these are the two flags i found:


means "required medical assistance" doesn't it also look like the top symbol on the art? it looks like the greek letter theta (the circle and the dot in the middle)

similarly, I found this image:




which means "Keep clear; engaged in trawling"

i had to do reasearch. trawling is the process in which one fishes by activley pulling a fishing net through the water behind one or more boats.


Now...i know i'm no expert on this field of LG-ology...but i might say that this is a hidden symbol.

the medical assistance may mean jonas needs back-up, or his plan is injured...or many other reasons. But, since it was there before Bree came to his cabin, one may suspect the Order's relation to medical procedures and medicine (which may have to do with the shots and other things...)

The keep clear brings up a different meaning entirely. It can mean several things. Firstly, the trawling can symbolize how the Order pulls people in to their 'ship' of beliefs. also, the keep clear also contradicts this previous statement, but may have a meaning that i havn't thought of yet.


i hope you guys actually read this. YAY! MY FIRST POST IS DONE!

spread the word...i think this is really useful information.

spookyscully wrote:

sororyzbl wrote:But Daniel said that Jonas said it had always been there. Heresay, yes, but it's not coming from Bree. Then again, if Daniel's trying to get *everyone* against Jonas, that's the way to do it. Make us hate him too.

I won't, he's too cute. I'm a sucker for that smile.

Jonas never pointed the symbol out. If he knew it was there why didn't he say anything?
I don't think Jonas would be stupid enough to keep an Op symbol in his house. So it might have been Daniel. Why would we trust Daniel? Just because he's been there from the start?

Because by saying "Jonas said it's been there for as long as he remembers" and putting it on the internet, he would easily be putting himself in a position to be caught in a lie by Bree if he was lying. That's why there's no reason to suspect this is a lie.

lehcarice9 wrote:[symbols post]

I don't think that really fits since we know the other symbols (including the Watcher symbol) involve Greek, and because they're just generally not similar enough.

That said, I applaud you for thinking outside the box. Welcome to the forum.

I don't think daniel would do that unless he was brainwashed


or maybe he has a very jealous side

I mean, something else maybe but I think this is FAR too serious for ANY of them to joke around about or do something like that. And if he really loves Bree he would never do something like that. That seems way out or his character. But then again I can't imagine Jonas as a bad guy either...? who knows anymore.