Married?

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:27 pm

girlAnachronism wrote:
colbertnationgirl wrote:um, i read that book and i dont remember that, are you sure it was the giver?
Yeah. Jonas's parents were not married, and once Jonas and his sister were independent they would move into a commune-ish home for the elderly. The only reason Jonas's parents were together was to raise two kids.

The character is this book was named Jonas? Now, that is interesting.

charliebrown · Post by **charliebrown** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:31 pm

Its all coming together now

Jonas, elders????

I love The Giver! Very Good book btw

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:40 pm

girlAnachronism wrote:
colbertnationgirl wrote:um, i read that book and i dont remember that, are you sure it was the giver?
Yeah. Jonas's parents were not married, and once Jonas and his sister were independent they would move into a commune-ish home for the elderly. The only reason Jonas's parents were together was to raise two kids.

Oh man, I didn't remember his name was Jonas. Damn, it's been so long since I read that...

Magesa · Post by **Magesa** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:48 pm

I wonder if the Creators thought of that...

If so, that gives interesting hints on Jonas's parents. It would be a lot like Bree's.

I like the idea of Lucy being Bree's birth mom -- it makes a lot more sense than most theories I've heard. But then why wouldn't Lucy raise Bree herself? I don't really think its true, but I like it.

However, the fake parents not married thing... that makes a TON of sense, and would say something interesting things about the Order if it were true.

Nieriel.Manwathiel · Post by **Nieriel.Manwathiel** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:56 pm

thelogicpuzzler wrote:Did anyone already put out the theory of Lucy being Bree's mom? I know it's far-fetched, but I thought I would point out the obvious. Also, it would explain why Lucy is always the Order member we see. She wants to be closer to her daughter? Whatever, I'm tired as hell. Don't listen to my drivel.

i say her "mom" is Oppy and her birth-mom is Tachy, forced to give up her child and go underground like T2.

:luvs that movie:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:24 pm

girlAnachronism wrote:The situation reminds me of Lowry's "The Giver" where couples are brought together solely to raise children in their community and then broken up afterwards.

omgomgomgomgomgogmogmogmogmogmg i LOVE THE GIVER. <3333hdfjaslfj

Anyway, this theory rules. I thought of it a while ago. I also wonder if people within the Order typically get married, or even call themselves couples. I mean, Gemma told us about when she wanted to talk to that guy named Sam, but her mother told her not to. And Bree supposedly broke her purity bond when she started sneaking out at night to be with Daniel. In fact, she never even thought of Daniel that way until YT commenters told her that he liked her. The women who are held high in the Order seem to be independent, and well, single. Maybe romantic relationships just are not respected in the Order.

Magesa · Post by **Magesa** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:28 pm

Yes, you're absolutely right JustAnotherLonelyGirl... it never even really occured to me, but that really does make sense.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:49 am

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote: Maybe romantic relationships just are not respected in the Order.

I would say this is correct, since everything they do seems to be geared away from any kind of emotional impulse or response.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:56 am

Not every couple are married.
My parents are not married, and therfore have no rings

Magesa · Post by **Magesa** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:07 am

Sami wrote:Not every couple are married.
My parents are not married, and therfore have no rings

You're right, some couples don't marry. But your parents weren't part of the Order. So, although its possible Bree's parents just never got married (or the Creators forgot to put a ring on his finger), I think that it is actually quite likely that this emotion condemning cult doesn't like relationships, and might not want Bree's parents to marry.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:15 am

Maybe commitment like marrige, is not "Free Will"

SuperRuss · Post by **SuperRuss** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:48 am

So for this theory to work Jonas' parents would have to be in the order. Are they? has there been any hint of this? I can't remember if there has,

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:02 am

Just want to throw in that not every married couple wears wedding rings. My husband and I don't.

I stopped wearing mine when I had 2 kids in diapers because I was washing my hands constantly and I just got out of the habit of wearing it. My husband doesn't wear one because he's a carpentar/electrician, and it can be dangerous to wear any kind of jewelry doing the kind of work he does.

Isn't Bree's adopty dad a doctor? Maybe he just doesn't wear one because of work?

Interesting theory, though.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:22 am

I like the idea that they were only brought together to raise bree...and it would make sense that they still aren't living at bree's house and why they left so willingly. One way or another, due to her running or being of age to do the ceremony, their "job" was done.

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:06 am

I guess the romantic side of me can't wrap my brain around 2 people being together for at least 16 years without having at least grown fond of each other. Obviously, if Bree thought they were a happy family, they had to put a good face on being a happy couple.

16 years is a long time to share a bedroom and pretend to like someone.