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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:17 pm
by dogger1972
Ziola wrote:Did it ever occur to you that perhaps we wanted Tachyon and Brother to "come to the rescue"? Of course not. You are still blindly thinking that our only objective is Bree. Patience, child, patience. Don't make assumptions as to our true purpose. You will merely fulfill the prophecy associated with assumptions and I am not above pointing it out :twisted:
Of course you did.

Just like The Empire WANTED the Rebels to blow up the Death Star.

All part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:30 pm
by Ziola
Ahh, see. Your narrow train of thought makes it impossible to see beyond it. Tachyon is a traitor to the Order. The name she operates under now is not the name we knew her as. Confirming her identity has always been a high priority.

Bree will come around. We are not worried about that. We will continue to watch and protect her.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:52 pm
by AlissAbyss
Ziola wrote:
Bree will come around. We are not worried about that. We will continue to watch and protect her.

how cn you protct Bree when the only thing you are doing si trying to control her? no one can be 'pretected' when pretected means controlled.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:29 pm
by ladron121
AlissAbyss wrote:
Ziola wrote:
Bree will come around. We are not worried about that. We will continue to watch and protect her.

how cn you protct Bree when the only thing you are doing si trying to control her? no one can be 'pretected' when pretected means controlled.
You misunderstand. We want to protect her :)

You tell children what to do until they learn right from wrong, and when they forget your lessons you have to steer them back in the right direction. For their protection. That is all we are trying to do.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:35 pm
by cosmicdancer
Trying to over 'protect' someone can be very damaging, don't you agree?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:43 pm
by ladron121
cosmicdancer wrote:Trying to over 'protect' someone can be very damaging, don't you agree?
...but not listening to your "elders" can be as well :)

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:44 pm
by cosmicdancer
That depends on the elder ;).

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:45 pm
by Ziola
Hasn't she proven that she is not capable of making decisions without guidance from others? She is a child who is easily influenced by those around her. We only wish for her to continue her education and grow with us, her family.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:15 pm
by Xeniph
Oh, RIGHT. I get it now! You just want to kill those AROUND her, in the name of protecting her. You know, Hitler killed the Jews primarily in the name of "protecting" the Aryan Nation from the outsiders.
The ends DO NOT justify the means.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:17 pm
by Ziola
Where are you getting the idea that we want to kill anyone. You have such a wild imagination. It is refreshing and frightening at the same time. You might want to reign it in a little before you alarm others for no reason.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:19 pm
by Xeniph
Right. I'll do that. Meanwhile, you try and get your fluctuating stories under control.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:20 pm
by ladron121
Xeniph wrote:Oh, RIGHT. I get it now! You just want to kill those AROUND her, in the name of protecting her. You know, Hitler killed the Jews primarily in the name of "protecting" the Aryan Nation from the outsiders.
The ends DO NOT justify the means.
Again, I ask WHO are you accusing The Order of killing? Daniel, Jonas, Tachyon, brother are all still alive. Her father is MIA, but you cannot confirm his status.

And I suggest you stop being so dramatic. Using references to the Nazi regime is a bit much, don't you think?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:21 pm
by Xeniph
OOH! Battle on the fowums! In this corner: ziola, lad, and the Order pushers! In this corner: everybody else!
XD

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:23 pm
by Xeniph
Right. That's why they posted a vid called "dad is dead." Either way, the Order seems to have nothing against blackmail, threats, lying, traumatizing young girls, and theft. This doesn't sound like a benevolent society.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:24 pm
by ladron121
Xeniph wrote:OOH! Battle on the fowums! In this corner: ziola, lad, and the Order pushers! In this corner: everybody else!
XD
All I see is you right now :)

Maybe its the propaganda you are spewing? Or your hyperbolic references that are meant more for shock value than actual comparison?

Have some pizza, maybe some ice cream, and calm down :roll:

edit: the "dad is dead" video was posted by bree and crew, not OpAphid or Tachyon. They are assuming that based off them running away and never looking back. They admit that they don't remember much, just running and protecting Bree. So that is no proof, and definitely doesn't justify your demeanor.