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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:16 am
by Lurker
chevyfudd wrote:Gemma was with Lucy, this does not mean she was part of the order. Maybe she was just investigating for bree and it made her look bad.

Just for the record, I never really was a Gemma fan. I am just stating the possiblities.
Gemma helped the Order in an assassination attempt on Brother a year ago (February 2006). She led War Pylol to his safehouse (which was blown up). This was many months before Gemma ever made contact with Bree on YouTube.

only1 wrote:
Op confirmed that Gemma was dead when she sent the braille message RIP Gemma in one of her videos.
why kill an agent that was helping your cause? The Order killing her makes xero sense. Unless they discovered that Gemma did their work but was going to try to help Bree, knowing what the Orer does to people.
Gemma's the one who wanted to have Bree killed, actually. When talking to Lucy, she was overheard asking if the "D" in "Aphid" ("destroy") wasn't an option in dealing with her.

Also, Gemma wasn't killed by the Order, actually. Assuming he actually pulled the trigger (which we only have reason to believe right now due to the "RIP Gemma" message from OpAphid), Brother's the one who had crosshairs targeting her chest.

Daniel

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:30 pm
by BabyYoshi88
I can definitely see Danielbeast outsmarting The Order and investigating them while pretending to be their slave or whatever.

Even though Bree treated him like total crap, I think he loves her too much and has gone through too much with her to just turn on her.

Unless he really was kidnapped and brainwashed.

I still have hope in the ol' danielbeast though. Come back to us! :smt022

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:19 pm
by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
uhm, first of all, the Order didn't kill Gemma. It was Brother. Second of all, Daniel pretending to be in the Order to get info would be kind of the opposite of what Gemma was. But okay. :roll:

I like your theory, whoever started this. (forgot who, sorry)

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:23 pm
by Beckers
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:uhm, first of all, the Order didn't kill Gemma. It was Brother. Second of all, Daniel pretending to be in the Order to get info would be kind of the opposite of what Gemma was. But okay. :roll:

I like your theory, whoever started this. (forgot who, sorry)
thanks!
hehe :D

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:42 pm
by HoorayForMeImMakingOut
only1 wrote: why kill an agent that was helping your cause? The Order killing her makes xero sense. Unless they discovered that Gemma did their work but was going to try to help Bree, knowing what the Orer does to people.
The Order didn't kill Gemma. Brother did.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:19 pm
by janesalteredstates
Back to No Good.

In the video Miss Me? Daniel says "it's all good" more than once. "No good" (a negation of "It's all good") may have been a way of telling Bree ahead of time, warning her, about the message to come.

Incidentally, did Bree even mention that fact that Daniel is acting like a brainwashed zombie gangsta? Or did she supposedly not see Miss Me?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:10 pm
by cbizzle44
well, she saw miss me. but she doesn't make any reference to his zombieganstaness. which strikes me as weird... that was the first thing i noticed.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:25 pm
by Languorous Lass
girlAnachronism wrote:Op confirmed that Gemma was dead when she sent the braille message RIP Gemma in one of her videos.
But has it been confirmed in the main videos? Until then, I'm not buying it. Oppy is not to be trusted.
cbizzle44 wrote:well, she saw miss me. but she doesn't make any reference to his zombieganstaness. which strikes me as weird... that was the first thing i noticed.
She doesn't need to mention it. She makes it clear that she knows he's been captured, and is not hanging out with the Order voluntarily. That implies that she knows he's been brainwashed.