Can the Cremaster Cycle help explain the importance of Bree?

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:55 am

That muscle reminded me of the Seinfeld episode and "shrinkage"....I guess we know what causes that now?

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:56 am

Luv2Skydive wrote:That muscle reminded me of the Seinfeld episode and "shrinkage"....I guess we know what causes that now?

I WAS IN THE POOL!!!

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:00 pm

Elaine: "It shrinks???"

redheaddiva · Post by **redheaddiva** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:10 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:I picked excerpts from the official website of each synopsis that might have some meaning to LG15 and the biology aspect. They have everything to do with the plot, which is to explore processes of creation..

Okay, but you could say that about hundreds of contemporary artists and artworks. It doesn't mean that it's any kind of source material for LG15. A huge number of contemporary artists make art about the same kind of biological and genetic conundra that LG15 seems to be exploring. Suzanne Anker, Eduardo Kac, Hunter O'Reilly, Stelarc... and Matthew Barney. It doesn't mean that LG15 is using any of them as source material, just that the Creators are interested in the same themes.

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silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:15 pm

If I may jump in here, I don't think anyone was saying that LG15 was taking anything from the Cremaster Cycle, just pointing out that there are some interesting parallels that might be interesting to read or check out further.

There are dozens of discussions like this about Egyptian mythology, Biblical names, Freemasonry... I don't think anyone really thinks that the Creators are taking info from any one source.

It does make interesting reading, trying to find the little points where they intersect.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:25 pm

redheaddiva wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:I picked excerpts from the official website of each synopsis that might have some meaning to LG15 and the biology aspect. They have everything to do with the plot, which is to explore processes of creation..
Okay, but you could say that about hundreds of contemporary artists and artworks. It doesn't mean that it's any kind of source material for LG15. A huge number of contemporary artists make art about the same kind of biological and genetic conundra that LG15 seems to be exploring. Suzanne Anker, Eduardo Kac, Hunter O'Reilly, Stelarc... and Matthew Barney. It doesn't mean that LG15 is using any of them as source material, just that the Creators are interested in the same themes.

(edited for spelling...)

No, it doesn't mean it's a source.....but it could be. I don't think I ever stated that it was definitely a part of this series so I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to prove that it's not....or at least that's the feeling I get from your posts. All any of us who are researching and contributing are trying to show are the possibilities. I love the research and find it not only entertaining but educational.

redheaddiva · Post by **redheaddiva** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:00 pm

silvermoon wrote:If I may jump in here, I don't think anyone was saying that LG15 was taking anything from the Cremaster Cycle, just pointing out that there are some interesting parallels that might be interesting to read or check out further.

There are dozens of discussions like this about Egyptian mythology, Biblical names, Freemasonry... I don't think anyone really thinks that the Creators are taking info from any one source.

It does make interesting reading, trying to find the little points where they intersect.

I understand what you're saying, but as you can see here, Luv2SkyDive is saying that the Cremaster Cycle is a possible source.

Interesting parallels are all well and good, but the discussions are here to help separate the merely interesting from the truly relevant. Otherwise, we might as well have threads about how LG15 is based on the "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" claymation special because someone thinks Bree = Rudolph because she's a mutant outcast and Jonas = Yukon Cornelius because he's a loner and at some point someone ice-skates a figure 8 which looks like the logo on the Epogen box.

I'm saying that the Cremaster Cycle falls into the "interesting but not relevant" category.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:13 pm

And other's might disagree.....

Seeing as you've made your stance on this known, there should be no reason why you would post in such an irrelevent thread again, correct? That would make you a hypocrite of your own judgement of the point of these threads.

I mean, continuing to discuss this with me would perpetuate the notion of it being ok to create any old "Rudolph"-type idea in the Plot area and that would be wrong.

Anywho.....gotta go for now. *laughs herself away all the way to the car*

MrsCop · Post by **MrsCop** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:01 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:I love the research and find it not only entertaining but educational.

As do I! Thanks so much for this Luv

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:10 pm

Like so many of us, Luv2 spends countless hours in research looking for that single gold nugget in the bottom of the stream. That means she and many others sift through a whole lot of sand and mud in the process. That's part of the fun! If no one did it, why what would we be talking about... whether Daniel really got lucky? Or, how come Bree can't stand is cooking? Big deal.

I'm grateful for the efforts of Luv2 and her forum compatriots. Whether it's discussions about espionage strategies, questions about the New World Order or (in my case) rediculously long disertations about the Illuminati - it's all part of what makes the LG15 experience so damned entertaining.

I'd rather take the time to sift through her writings, follow the links she and others provide and discuss and debate the ideas than read through page after page of one and two word remarks.

Just my 2 cents.

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:16 pm

Matthew Barney is delicious.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:05 pm

Well, if I gave the wrong impression of saying this was the KEY

then that was a misunderstanding. I just followed the links, found something I thought was interesting and could clue us in on what makes Bree special......that's it.

I'm not fond of my research being compared to Rudolph (no offense Rudolph lovers) but to each their own and I try to go into everything with an open mind. LG15 requires that of us because it isn't exactly a normal, realistic storyline itself.

I think we are a very welcoming forum to new posters.....we've all been there (my thread on people's first post was pretty entertaining!) and we don't shoot down "crazy" ideas because you never know when that idea might show up in a video!

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:42 pm

The cremaster Cycle is art...a quite complex and beautiful piece, infact, and it's my opinion that art speaks to art/ of art/ with art....hell, even for the sake of art. The primal undertones in something like Cremaster can be paralelled to many other projects, ideas and aspects of other works...not to mention the paralells between it and actual, every day life. You know, the point?. I think it's amazing that L2S brought this up. I'm in awe.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:49 pm

I had never heard of Matthrew Barney.....I read somewhere that the DVD boxed sets, created in very limited quantity, were being sold for $100,000! Don't know how accurate that is, but I'm definately interested in this Cremaster Cycle, no matter it's importance or lack thereof to the LG15 saga. My brain was on overload as I was going through the website......it is the most intriguing piece of information I've come across since....since....the Illuminati?

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:04 pm

It's awesome...all bravado and brawn..mechanical sex..very male.. very psychological. I highly reccomend it.