0111 "45 Seconds" [1/8/07]

girlAnachronism · Post by **girlAnachronism** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:03 pm

LONGTIMELURKER wrote:
Raspberry wrote:It's interesting that he hesitated when he wanted to save her. I wonder why?
Cause he don't love her like the Beast does!! !!!!!!!!

True love would not hesitate,lust would...

Hopefully that was dispelling any possibility of a love triangle. Grr. that would be the worst thing to happen.

LONGTIMELURKER · Post by **LONGTIMELURKER** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:04 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:The Zapruder film is thought to be fake.....maybe alluding to the whole thing being a fake and a set-up by The Order to make Bree think her dad is dead...in which case he would have to be in on it to.

Once again,I agree w/ you...

dunh dunh dunh!! CONSPIRACY!!!!!

good point!!

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:05 pm

He said this brought back memories...I wonder what kind of memories? of running away? of death..? a gunshot?

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:06 pm

nobackspacebutton wrote:He said this brought back memories...I wonder what kind of memories? of running away? of death..? a gunshot?

of having to deal with the death of his parents

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:06 pm

LONGTIMELURKER wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:The Zapruder film is thought to be fake.....maybe alluding to the whole thing being a fake and a set-up by The Order to make Bree think her dad is dead...in which case he would have to be in on it to.
Once again,I agree w/ you...

dunh dunh dunh!! CONSPIRACY!!!!!

good point!!

thankies.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:07 pm

iamcool wrote:
nobackspacebutton wrote:He said this brought back memories...I wonder what kind of memories? of running away? of death..? a gunshot?
of having to deal with the death of his parents

the disappearance......

girlAnachronism · Post by **girlAnachronism** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:07 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:The Zapruder film is thought to be fake.....maybe alluding to the whole thing being a fake and a set-up by The Order to make Bree think her dad is dead...in which case he would have to be in on it to.

There's not really anything fake about the President's death though. The part contested to be fake was the film. People thought it was tampered with to hide evidence...

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:07 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:
iamcool wrote:
nobackspacebutton wrote:He said this brought back memories...I wonder what kind of memories? of running away? of death..? a gunshot?
of having to deal with the death of his parents
the disappearance......

lol yeh

Taig · Post by **Taig** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:12 pm

"GirlA" and others, I don't think one can associate the Z film with any evidence of a conspiracy here.

(although consopiracy is definately rife within)

It isn't really an obscure reference. At least I didn't think it was. It is kind of a big chunk of modern US hisrtory. But like I said...I'm old.

Also, I think Joan-us would have been old enough to have seen the Oliver Stone/Kevin Costner portrayal of the event adn the film.

mushab00m · Post by **mushab00m** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:13 pm

I don't think his whole "mental health exercise" for Bree is a good idea. I mean, she asked him and Daniel to leave her alone for a while.

I understand that leaving her alone like that might be dangerous (some people have suggested she is suicidal) but something like that is sooo in-your-face-you-have-a-problem. It's only going to make things worse...

and WHY DID HE HESITATE???

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:15 pm

I don't think that this vid cements at all that Bree's dad died. In my understanding of the Zapruder film, people examined it like we examine our vids, watching it over and over, trying to find some sort of new clue or evidence. That is what he said he did with the video where Bree's dad was "shot".

I've said this before and I'll say it again, I do not believe that Bree's dad is dead. I do not believe that he was kidnapped by the Order. I do not believe that he had no idea of what he was shooting his "daughter" up with.

I do believe that he is still alive. I do believe that he is still a very loyal and devoted member of Bree's religion. I do believe that he performed every action with full understanding of what he was doing.

And I think that Bree's "mother" is a hell of a lot more important then we were led to believe.

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:17 pm

Dude all I can think right now of Jonas and his mental health exercises is NO he is going to make it so much worse for bree even though he is trying to make it better. Plus she wants to be left alone.

I really enjoyed this video though. I like that for ONCE someone explained to us the full thing of what happened

oh and am I the only one who thinks it's really cute how jonas and daniel are bonding?

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:17 pm

mushab00m wrote:I don't think his whole "mental health exercise" for Bree is a good idea. I mean, she asked him and Daniel to leave her alone for a while.

I understand that leaving her alone like that might be dangerous (some people have suggested she is suicidal) but something like that is sooo in-your-face-you-have-a-problem. It's only going to make things worse...

and WHY DID HE HESITATE???

He should totally just leave her alone....SHE WILL go talk to them if she needs to. I don't understand why he keeps trying to smother her.

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:21 pm

kellylen wrote:Dude all I can think right now of Jonas and his mental health exercises is NO he is going to make it so much worse for bree even though he is trying to make it better. Plus she wants to be left alone.

I really enjoyed this video though. I like that for ONCE someone explained to us the full thing of what happened

oh and am I the only one who thinks it's really cute how jonas and daniel are bonding?

i don't think its cute, but i like it lol

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:22 pm

"mental health exersize"? I wonder what he means. I looked up a site on such things and I came up with this link:

http://www.mental-health-today.com/Healing/

Maybe he'll take my advice and just try to play some video games with Bree, to help her relax?

I also came up with this website:

http://www.mind-mart.com/category/ecourse/