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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:38 am
by omegawoman
nobackspacebutton wrote:This stirs up a lot of questions and possible answers.

1) So Bree was right not to go home and trust Gemma.

2) The dying rose most likely symbolised Gemma's guilt.

3) Is Daniel in danger now that he is home?

4) Is Daniel in on this too?

5) Is Gemma being forced to work with Lucy, or did the order find out she was helping Bree?

Or is Gemma in on some kind of scam with Bree, Daniel, and Jonas?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:39 am
by Inigo
Wow! ok this is serious. Either Gemma is evil or she is forcibly working with the order.

They showed a palm tree so we can be sure that they are in Cali

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:42 am
by Talezine
What we do know about Gemma:

Her family was in the order once.

She knew of a girl and family that went against the order and "disappeared" (Oddly enough, the same thing that happened to Rose's parents? Was this a veiled threat at the time...or a warning?)

She told us of the watchers, and shared their symbols with us (however...how odd is it that such a tight order was so easily tricked by Gemma's use of a pseudonym when getting access to their books).

She told us an odd story about a band and a bad date that really was not the analogy she was making it out to be.

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:43 am
by omegawoman
Talezine wrote:What we do know about Gemma:

Her family was in the order once.

She knew of a girl and family that went against the order and "disappeared" (Oddly enough, the same thing that happened to Rose's parents? Was this a veiled threat at the time...or a warning?)

She told us of the watchers, and shared their symbols with us (however...how odd is it that such a tight order was so easily tricked by Gemma's use of a pseudonym when getting access to their books).

She told us an odd story about a band and a bad date that really was not the analogy she was making it out to be.

Also a tie in at the OpAphid thread is that Tach is the sister of the family that disappeared- the family Gemma spoke of.

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:43 am
by trainer101
From Tachyon's YouTube page...

Added December 12, 2006
From Tachyon

Hmm. Gemma? Lucy?

The weather in London sure does look nice for December, doesn't it?

More soon. ...

Tags LG15 lonelygirl15 daniel danielbeast bree gemma gemmers19 jonas jonastko opaphid tachyon lucy helper order

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:45 am
by omegawoman
trainer101 wrote:From Tachyon's YouTube page...

Added December 12, 2006
From Tachyon

Hmm. Gemma? Lucy?

The weather in London sure does look nice for December, doesn't it?

More soon. ...

Tags LG15 lonelygirl15 daniel danielbeast bree gemma gemmers19 jonas jonastko opaphid tachyon lucy helper order
I almost look forward to Tachyon's videos more than anyone else's now. This is getting interesting...........

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:47 am
by aprilawz
Talezine wrote: (Oddly enough, the same thing that happened to Rose's parents? Was this a veiled threat at the time...or a warning?)
Wait a min...who's Rose?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:47 am
by nobackspacebutton
Talezine wrote: She knew of a girl and family that went against the order and "disappeared" (Oddly enough, the same thing that happened to Rose's parents? Was this a veiled threat at the time...or a warning?)


That more I think of that...the more I think it was a warning of what could happen.
Talezine wrote: She told us of the watchers, and shared their symbols with us (however...how odd is it that such a tight order was so easily tricked by Gemma's use of a pseudonym when getting access to their books).
what books..?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:48 am
by Inigo
aprilawz wrote:
Talezine wrote: (Oddly enough, the same thing that happened to Rose's parents? Was this a veiled threat at the time...or a warning?)
Wait a min...who's Rose?

I think he means Bree, who is played by Jessica ROSE

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:48 am
by nobackspacebutton
aprilawz wrote:
Talezine wrote: (Oddly enough, the same thing that happened to Rose's parents? Was this a veiled threat at the time...or a warning?)
Wait a min...who's Rose?

He means Jessica Rose, which is Bree. He's talking about her parents disappearing after they disobeyed the orders of the Order.

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:50 am
by Talezine
omegawoman wrote:
Talezine wrote:What we do know about Gemma:

Her family was in the order once.

She knew of a girl and family that went against the order and "disappeared" (Oddly enough, the same thing that happened to Rose's parents? Was this a veiled threat at the time...or a warning?)

She told us of the watchers, and shared their symbols with us (however...how odd is it that such a tight order was so easily tricked by Gemma's use of a pseudonym when getting access to their books).

She told us an odd story about a band and a bad date that really was not the analogy she was making it out to be.

Also a tie in at the OpAphid thread is that Tach is the sister of the family that disappeared- the family Gemma spoke of.
I missed that post Omegawoman. Can you link to it for me so I don't have to search so hard?

OK...soooo Tachyon knows Gemma. Is proving something to us that we missed. Hey..maybe a connection (far fetched, but stay with me)

Gemma knew the girl and the family that disappeared. How odd she suddenly shows up when Bree is questioning the order, warns her of the disappearance, and keeps tabs on them as they travel to a hiding spot. Any chance that Gemma's role in the order is to lure runaways back?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:53 am
by Broken Kid
Keep in mind we saw ONE entrance to Lucy's apartment. The one that Gemma uses could just be a different entrance on a different side of the building. I think we have to assume it's the same building for the purpose of the story...

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:53 am
by nobackspacebutton
I think Gemma's role was definately to lure them back home.

So Gemma knew Tach....I wonder if Gemma knows that Tach is following her.

Gemma liked Tach's brother then...Tach's brother was Sam.

Its all coming together..slowly =D

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:55 am
by Kasdeja
You can probably get more info on OpAphid and Tachyon in the OpAphid section, the vids and drops, puzzles, etc. are more thoroughly discussed there. :)

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:57 am
by omegawoman
Talezine wrote:
omegawoman wrote:
Talezine wrote:What we do know about Gemma:

Her family was in the order once.

She knew of a girl and family that went against the order and "disappeared" (Oddly enough, the same thing that happened to Rose's parents? Was this a veiled threat at the time...or a warning?)

She told us of the watchers, and shared their symbols with us (however...how odd is it that such a tight order was so easily tricked by Gemma's use of a pseudonym when getting access to their books).

She told us an odd story about a band and a bad date that really was not the analogy she was making it out to be.

Also a tie in at the OpAphid thread is that Tach is the sister of the family that disappeared- the family Gemma spoke of.
I missed that post Omegawoman. Can you link to it for me so I don't have to search so hard?

OK...soooo Tachyon knows Gemma. Is proving something to us that we missed. Hey..maybe a connection (far fetched, but stay with me)

Gemma knew the girl and the family that disappeared. How odd she suddenly shows up when Bree is questioning the order, warns her of the disappearance, and keeps tabs on them as they travel to a hiding spot. Any chance that Gemma's role in the order is to lure runaways back?

I read it a few times last night reading in the OpAphid area, it was mentioned in a couple of threads, but now doing just a quick search, I cannot locate it. I will search harder now if only to back myself up. I remember being really excited about this revelation.