Illuminati - A (not so brief) history

DontHaveAClue · Post by **DontHaveAClue** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:02 pm

Broken Kid wrote:This is intriguing! (I was a boy scout!)

BK is one of 'em. That's proof!

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:05 pm

Broken Kid wrote:
silvermoon wrote:Or maybe the BSA is just a feeder group to the Illuminati!
Wow...the BSA being a secret feeder society? Is there any connotation to "eagle" in the Illuminati? This is intriguing! (I was a boy scout!)

I'm a pack leader, and I haven't been told anything! Just goes to show you that only the higher ups in the organizations are privvy to the good info!

And I'm sure trainer will have some good info on this if I am correct, but isn't there really an eagle connection somewhere? I seem to remember hearing/reading that the originally symbol of our country was set to be a turkey, but it was changed because of some deep Illuminati connection to eagles.

Watch out for your Tiger Cubs, people!

DontHaveAClue · Post by **DontHaveAClue** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:07 pm

silvermoon wrote:
I'm a pack leader, and I haven't been told anything! Just goes to show you that only the higher ups in the organizations are privvy to the good info!

You are one of 'em without even knowing it!

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:10 pm

DontHaveAClue wrote:
silvermoon wrote:
I'm a pack leader, and I haven't been told anything! Just goes to show you that only the higher ups in the organizations are privvy to the good info!
You are one of 'em without even knowing it!

I hope I don't have to get one of those ugly a** tattoos!

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:19 pm

Hmnmm, don't know it this has any value at all, but it struck me as interesting.

Many people had come to the conclusion that maybe Bree and Cassie were parts of the same girl - a multiple personality disorder kind of thing.

Seems that being in the Illuminati might actually increase your chances of having MPD.

Because the Illuminati have kept their membership secret, people have not seen the connections between the various cases of multiple personality that surface. In Iowa in 1987, a Multiple named Freeman was arrested for stealing a car. In South Carolina in 1990, a Rutherford with MPD was in court. In North Dakata in 1988, an MPD daughter named Johnson tried to sue her abusive father named Johnson for her sexual abuse. In 1984, a Multiple named Hall was hit by a truck and was in court. In 1987, a Multiple named Jones tried to use his MPD to get off of a murder conviction in Washington. In 1988, Marie Moore, a Multiple in N.J. ran a coven which tortured teenagers. The police found a well hidden body in her house, but the corrupt judicial system did not convict her of murder. In 1988, a Ms. Wheeler applied for Social Security disability benefits due to mental impairments such as MPD. In each of these MPD cases: Freeman, Hall, Jones, Johnson, Moore, Rutherford, and Wheeler are all surnames that have many members in the Illuminati.

Interesting.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:29 pm

It's so weird when old theories some of us were made fun of for just talking about...come back like this. Makes me think we need to go over some old vids and threads...

watchingall · Post by **watchingall** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:04 pm

Broken Kid wrote:
silvermoon wrote:Or maybe the BSA is just a feeder group to the Illuminati!
Wow...the BSA being a secret feeder society? Is there any connotation to "eagle" in the Illuminati? This is intriguing! (I was a boy scout!)

I honestly cant claim to trainers really fantastic research and knowlege, just a long time fan of The Illuminatus Trilogy by Shea and Wilson. Its been a long time since Ive read it though!

Anyways, heres just a quick fun link between the eagle symbol, free masonry and illuminati http://www.texemarrs.com/032003/eagle_has_landed.htm (think NASA, "The Eagle has Landed". This does require you to believe in some severe connections between free masonry and illuminti and like all conspiracy theories... *shrug*)

Or wait... I was about to post and found this! http://whale.to/b/sp/12.html

" For most of us an eagle is a symbol of what is noble and beautiful. Historically, the eagle and the snake have been the logo of the tribe of Dan, considered the "black sheep" of the 12 tribes. The Prophet Hosea said, "Set the trumpet to thy mouth. He shall come as an eagle against the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant, and trespassed against my law." (HOS 8:1) And the Prophet Obadiah said, "Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord." (OB 1:4) "

*Bold mine.

haha i dunno but it sure is fun

PS Thanks for the warm welcome!

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:08 pm

I always associated the eagle with Rome...

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:18 pm

watchingall wrote:
Or wait... I was about to post and found this! http://whale.to/b/sp/12.html

" For most of us an eagle is a symbol of what is noble and beautiful. Historically, the eagle and the snake have been the logo of the tribe of Dan, considered the "black sheep" of the 12 tribes. The Prophet Hosea said, "Set the trumpet to thy mouth. He shall come as an eagle against the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant, and trespassed against my law." (HOS 8:1) And the Prophet Obadiah said, "Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord." (OB 1:4) "

*Bold mine.

You know it really is amazing how often forms of the name Daniel come up in mythology/the Bible/ history. I wonder if the creators knew that when they named the character. I run into it constantly when I'm looking stuff up for lg15.

watchingall · Post by **watchingall** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:23 pm

silvermoon wrote:
You know it really is amazing how often forms of the name Daniel come up in mythology/the Bible/ history. I wonder if the creators knew that when they named the character. I run into it constantly when I'm looking stuff up for lg15.

They almost HAD to have! The only thing worse would have been to name him Michael

Im playing an ARG with Gabriel and Raphiel as characters, don't get me started *groans*

It should also be mentioned (maybe) that the double headed eagle is also commonly associated with the illuminiti.

One thing that bothers me about linking her with the illuminti is its such a well known (yet so completely unknown) conspiracy theory. Its one of those that links up with EVERYTHING if you look deep enough.

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:27 pm

watchingall wrote:
silvermoon wrote:
You know it really is amazing how often forms of the name Daniel come up in mythology/the Bible/ history. I wonder if the creators knew that when they named the character. I run into it constantly when I'm looking stuff up for lg15.
They almost HAD to have! The only thing worse would have been to name him Michael Im playing an ARG with Gabriel and Raphiel as characters, don't get me started *groans*

It should also be mentioned (maybe) that the double headed eagle is also commonly associated with the illuminiti.

One thing that bothers me about linking her with the illuminti is its such a well known (yet so completely unknown) conspiracy theory. Its one of those that links up with EVERYTHING if you look deep enough.

Really, though, isn't that what makes it perfect for this? The creators can spin it any way they want and no one will be mad about it. (or if they are, they won't be able to comment on it!)

It has a deep, rich history and mythology, but nothing is concrete. It's not a religion, so it doesn't offend anyone. It can be molded into anything and connected to anything.

Criminy, it's even been connected to UFOs on the net!

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:27 pm

watchingall · Post by **watchingall** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:32 pm

trainer101 wrote:

Huzzah! One day I will learn how to post images

I really need to brush up on my illuminati now... was it 3 or 5 that was special to them? and what does that 33 symbolize?

*groan* its been at least a decade since Ive studied any of this!

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:42 pm

watchingall wrote:Huzzah! One day I will learn how to post images

I really need to brush up on my illuminati now... was it 3 or 5 that was special to them? and what does that 33 symbolize?

*groan* its been at least a decade since Ive studied any of this!

33 represents the 33rd degree of Fremasonry - allegedly a step into the leadership faction of the Illuminati.

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:52 pm

i know its got nothing to do with the topic but i have a couple of dollars from when i was over there and i've always wondered why that pyramid with the eye at the top is on there?