Lonelygirl15

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:11 pm**

Sammy214 wrote:No, if he has sex with little kids and stuff like that for rituals, and has sex with any woman for a ritual, thats REALLY creepy.

And yet, Crowley never had sex with kids....at any time.

As far as having sex with any woman for a ritual....how is that any more creepy than the millions of americans who have sex with someone on the first date? I mean, if he's doing it for a ritual, it's at least for a holy purpose.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:16 pm**

tannhaus wrote:
Sammy214 wrote:No, if he has sex with little kids and stuff like that for rituals, and has sex with any woman for a ritual, thats REALLY creepy.
And yet, Crowley never had sex with kids....at any time.

As far as having sex with any woman for a ritual....how is that any more creepy than the millions of americans who have sex with someone on the first date? I mean, if he's doing it for a ritual, it's at least for a holy purpose.

What about when Crowley'd have sex with Laylah or Leah Hersig for a ritual? That wasn't even a first date.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:18 pm**

sororyzbl wrote:What about when Crowley'd have sex with Laylah or Leah Hersig for a ritual? That wasn't even a first date.

True...quite often he was with the woman for an extended period...and it was within the bonds of a relationship. But, even if not, it's for ritual... I don't see how that is worse than people just going out, getting drunk, and screwing.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:21 pm**

sororyzbl wrote:
tannhaus wrote:
Sammy214 wrote:No, if he has sex with little kids and stuff like that for rituals, and has sex with any woman for a ritual, thats REALLY creepy.
And yet, Crowley never had sex with kids....at any time.

As far as having sex with any woman for a ritual....how is that any more creepy than the millions of americans who have sex with someone on the first date? I mean, if he's doing it for a ritual, it's at least for a holy purpose.
What about when Crowley'd have sex with Laylah or Leah Hersig for a ritual? That wasn't even a first date.

i thought tannhaus made it clear that crowley DID have sex with women for rituals.. but so many OTHER ppl (today) have sex on the first date.. so really what is the difference if you do it for a ritual???? its not like chastity is in or anything

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:23 pm**

prudence wrote:i thought tannhaus made it clear that crowley DID have sex with women for rituals.. but so many OTHER ppl (today) have sex on the first date.. so really what is the difference if you do it for a ritual???? its not like chastity is in or anything

Yeah...but what she's bringing up is that Crowley was in relationships with a lot of these women....

I know...it confused me too at first....but then I thought about who she was naming...

A lot of these women he had romances with..or was married to.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:27 pm**

tannhaus wrote:
prudence wrote:i thought tannhaus made it clear that crowley DID have sex with women for rituals.. but so many OTHER ppl (today) have sex on the first date.. so really what is the difference if you do it for a ritual???? its not like chastity is in or anything
Yeah...but what she's bringing up is that Crowley was in relationships with a lot of these women....

I know...it confused me too at first....but then I thought about who she was naming...

A lot of these women he had romances with..or was married to.

ahhhhh.. i see!! my bad! sry soro

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:29 pm**

prudence wrote:ahhhhh.. i see!! my bad! sry soro

muhahahha

See...our evil insidious ways are roping you in.

If you would have called her soror, you would have been calling her the latin word for Sister

muahhahhaa

Just like in church...brother and sister

except we use the latin.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:38 pm**

thats cool... right now im kinda at the point where.. i dont know what to believe (as far as one particular religion) so, im just researching, trying to find my way.. in the meantime i basically have my own truth, i dont find myself to be religious, but more spiritual... i dunno... but anyways.. what i was getting at was im interested in learning new things about any religion.. so.. yeah... ive been learning a lot from these threads.. and from you in particular tannhaus

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:46 pm**

prudence wrote:ive been learning a lot from these threads.. and from you in particular tannhaus

Thank you very much.

In general, you might see us refer to each other as brother or sister...frater or soror...or you might see care frater...care brother....which means dear. We use that in correspondence.

As far as sororyzbl...soror is sister....and I don't know if this is why she chose it....but in the hebrew, y and j are both the letter yod. That's why the germans decided to pronounce YHVH as Jehovah in the 1800s. Hebrew doesn't have vowels per se...no one knew how to pronounce it (it was a secret of the Levite priests) so they decided to pronounce it Jehovah.

Well, if you take those letters...and remember that j and y are both the same letter....and vowels are often left out....then you can come to the name Jezebele.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:46 pm**

prudence wrote:ive been learning a lot from these threads.. and from you in particular tannhaus

Thank you very much.

In general, you might see us refer to each other as brother or sister...frater or soror...or you might see care frater...care brother....which means dear. We use that in correspondence.

As far as sororyzbl...soror is sister....and I don't know if this is why she chose it....but in the hebrew, y and j are both the letter yod. That's why the germans decided to pronounce YHVH as Jehovah in the 1800s. Hebrew doesn't have vowels per se...no one knew how to pronounce it (it was a secret of the Levite priests) so they decided to pronounce it Jehovah.

Well, if you take those letters...and remember that j and y are both the same letter....and vowels are often left out....then you can come to the name Jezebele.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:54 pm**

tannhaus wrote:
prudence wrote: As far as sororyzbl...soror is sister....and I don't know if this is why she chose it....but in the hebrew, y and j are both the letter yod. That's why the germans decided to pronounce YHVH as Jehovah in the 1800s. Hebrew doesn't have vowels per se...no one knew how to pronounce it (it was a secret of the Levite priests) so they decided to pronounce it Jehovah.

Well, if you take those letters...and remember that j and y are both the same letter....and vowels are often left out....then you can come to the name Jezebele.
WELL then. I actually pronounce it IZ-A-Bel, and I chose it for numerological significance as well as the hebrew translation "Daughter of Ba'al". I actually never put the Jezebel thing on until after I chose the Motto, and it was just the icing. I'm a lot nicer than Jezebel was, though.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:57 pm**

sororyzbl wrote:I'm a lot nicer than Jezebel was, though.

If I recall, Jezebele danced for her daddy and gave him a woodie...that's pretty dang nice!

I hope I didn't bother you by explaining that about your name. I thought it was pretty cool.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:17 pm**

tannhaus wrote:
sororyzbl wrote:I'm a lot nicer than Jezebel was, though.
If I recall, Jezebele danced for her daddy and gave him a woodie...that's pretty dang nice!

I hope I didn't bother you by explaining that about your name. I thought it was pretty cool.

Oh don't sweat it. The etymology was a bit off, but I'm happy to be a guinea pig LOL. I almost didn't use it, but it chose me more than anything. I'm of the opinion that there are too many magdalenes and jezebels in the OTO.

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:54 pm**

Hey can we change the name of this section from "Religion" to "Thelema Discussion Group"?

Posted: **Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:42 pm**

sororyzbl wrote:Oh don't sweat it. The etymology was a bit off, but I'm happy to be a guinea pig LOL. I almost didn't use it, but it chose me more than anything. I'm of the opinion that there are too many magdalenes and jezebels in the OTO.

Pshhhh the etymology was perfect

It IS jezebel. But I even started it off as "I don't know if this is why she chose it..."

so poo to you

Lonelygirl15

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