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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:07 pm
by Brooklynxman
Clara you want help, I am combing maddison;s vids in an attempt to figuire out her password for you right now.

How's that for help?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:09 pm
by kellylen
clara we cant help you if you arent around!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:16 pm
by Luminous
Wow. So I'm just going to drop a few things here that are running through my mind. They may or may not make sense, but here they are:

Joel Frady had a daughter who lives in Nagodoches. Does that mean that Joel is Mr. Zipp?

The video uploaded by Warpylol was uploaded from Joels IP address. Does that mean he is also WarPylol?

He stood with his nose inches away from the TV screen, watching the video of the shooting over and over. Also, it has been hinted that he may be under the influence of drugs. This brings the ZorinXL video to mind. Was Joel conditioned to be an assassin through drugs and other brainwashing techniques similar to what we saw in the Zorin video?

Joel = Mr. Zipp = WarPylol = Brainwashed assassin?

If so, who is doing the brainwashing, how many of these guys are out there, who is their next target and why?

Clara, you better be very very very careful

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:20 pm
by sparkybennett
Clara you seem very frustrated very early on ...
I'm wondering why exactly you were drawn to Maddy's story. If you thought this would be an easy topic to help you graduate, you may be mistaken.


what exactly can we do to help you dear?
maybe if you are clear in what you need we can do a better job of helping you.

And please don't think that just because one man is behind bars, that there aren't others out there working the same issue. Please be careful.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:24 pm
by trainer101
Clara, I find it odd that you complain that we are not helping when you didn't ask one single question of Officer Terrell that we prepared for you.

With regard to you denials of conspiracy - find out where this video came from. Then tell me there's no conspiracy.

Don't forget to ask "WHY?"... WHY, WHY, WHY!?!
Maybe it's up to US to come up with some better questions for you to ask. :wink:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:26 pm
by LesterG
Clara,

are we helping by letting you vent on us after having to walk home from whereever in the hell that cop dropped you off from?

I understand your frustration... please, don't take it out on us, we're just trying to help get you info and answers to questions no one knows about... Alot of us are in no position to physically help you, but we're here in spirit and we'll give you all the support we can...

we're here for you, k?

*hug*

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:28 pm
by robtomorrow
Luminous wrote:Joel = Mr. Zipp = WarPylol = Brainwashed assassin?
Would someone explain to me why some of you think this is a possibility, I may not of following this closely enough, but isn't it Mr Zipp who got Maddy and Adam involved in the first place, and isn't it he who Maddy and Adam were trying to help?

Why would he get these two young innocent kids involved just to murder them?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:30 pm
by Emsmu
Clara, I know you may think that causing conflict here is a bad thing, but to tell you the truth some of us live for it. You have to be patient with us and we can try to help you, but if you dont communicate with us then there is no way for us to negotiate on significant ideas or theories with you. Trust us and we'll trust you.

(Yes, I know like I sound like a token wackjob, but we may help you solve two murders. You would not only graduate with that, but you will be in the newspaper and everything! Instant fame! VOILA!)

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:31 pm
by Esteed
Clara, as an amendment to my last post, I want to explain some things.

We, most if not all of us, had a real emotional connection to Maddy. I cried for her. I wrote a eulogy for her. So to have you come in here with your little attitude is, and I will say this plainly, a fucking insult.

You want our help? Fine. Make us want to give it to you. Acting like this isn't going to do anything but piss us off.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:31 pm
by trainer101
Luminous wrote:Joel Frady had a daughter who lives in Nagodoches. Does that mean that Joel is Mr. Zipp?

The video uploaded by Warpylol was uploaded from Joels IP address. Does that mean he is also WarPylol?

He stood with his nose inches away from the TV screen, watching the video of the shooting over and over. Also, it has been hinted that he may be under the influence of drugs. This brings the ZorinXL video to mind. Was Joel conditioned to be an assassin through drugs and other brainwashing techniques similar to what we saw in the Zorin video?

Joel = Mr. Zipp = WarPylol = Brainwashed assassin?

If so, who is doing the brainwashing, how many of these guys are out there, who is their next target and why?

Clara, you better be very very very careful
Some very good points and important questions. I'm not sure though that Officer Terrell was saying that the Warpylol vid came from Joel's IP address. Warpy's vid was posted on the 24th, "No More" was posted on the 29th.

From the description, Joel certainly seemed to be under the influence of something, but I'm not so sure Joel = Warpylol. So we're back to WHY?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:34 pm
by Emsmu
robtomorrow wrote:
Luminous wrote:Joel = Mr. Zipp = WarPylol = Brainwashed assassin?
Would someone explain to me why some of you think this is a possibility, I may not of following this closely enough, but isn't it Mr Zipp who got Maddy and Adam involved in the first place, and isn't it he who Maddy and Adam were trying to help?

Why would he get these two young innocent kids involved just to murder them?
Yea, I think we can push this theory aside. This is a game which means theres a solution. If it was all set up as a distraction or something then there is no solution. Just because we cant solve it, doesnt mean we should look for an unsolvable situation to compensate. In my opinion and in the most likely circumstance, Mr. Zipp did not shoot Maddy.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:51 pm
by Luminous
robtomorrow wrote:
Luminous wrote:Joel = Mr. Zipp = WarPylol = Brainwashed assassin?
Would someone explain to me why some of you think this is a possibility, I may not of following this closely enough, but isn't it Mr Zipp who got Maddy and Adam involved in the first place, and isn't it he who Maddy and Adam were trying to help?

Why would he get these two young innocent kids involved just to murder them?
I think I may be the only one who put this together - and admittedly, I am probably way off base - There are alot of loose ends, and I am just trying to connect the dots. Sometimes bad theories can bring as much insight as good theories, so I just thought I'd throw it out for everyone to chew on. It isn't necessarily how I believe things are.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:52 pm
by Luminous
trainer101 wrote: I'm not sure though that Officer Terrell was saying that the Warpylol vid came from Joel's IP address. Warpy's vid was posted on the 24th, "No More" was posted on the 29th.
Got it. My mistake for reading to fast and not checking my facts.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:09 pm
by ApotheosisAZ
From the vid description:
amblyopianne wrote:Gathering this footage is trickier than I thought. I finally got Officer Terrell to give me some of his time, and I also walked about a mile to get home. I'm sorry I didn't get to all of the questions you wanted me to ask.
So, Clara, you had to be dropped off because Officer Terrell got a "call."

I did not hear this call. Yet, earlier in the video, you can hear the police dispatcher talking to another cop on the radio.

Officer Terrell is being purposely evasive in answering your questions.

Look at the warpylol video as trainer101 suggested, and read maddison's chat responses here.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:11 pm
by silverblue
What's with the attitude?

:?

I don't understand what we did to earn that.