GET TO BREE ASAP

tazman2087 · Post by **tazman2087** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:32 pm

History is written by the majority, not the victors. Some places in Japan don't even teach about Japan's participation in WWII. We all know how that one ended.

Danielle · Post by **Danielle** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:40 pm

Just as some places in Canada and the US ignore their treatment of Asians was opening, and the building of internment camps for Japanese people during WWII. Or even the treatment of Amerindian peoples that continues negatively in modern times. Each culture has their dirty laundry, and it is the dominant who decides where they shall wash it.

tazman2087 · Post by **tazman2087** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:00 pm

Your blind devotion to a reli... no i can't call that travesty a religion...a cult that stems from a man dubbed the "Wickedest man on earth" that dabbled so deeply in in blatant racism, sexism, multiple mind-altering drugs, and the occult, will ultimately be your demise. Only the mind of the weak could be so controlled by such a monster. I'm afraid that despite your cult's attempts to create a perfect world or a perfect person or whatever, imperfection is inevitable, so you must, and will ultimately fail. To tell people perfection on this planet is achievable is a horrible illusion that will do nothing but disappiont.

Danielle · Post by **Danielle** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:01 pm

Perspective, is everything.

tazman2087 · Post by **tazman2087** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:08 pm

I guess from your perspective, its OK to use elicit drugs, dehumanize women, and oppress people of another race.

canadas_baby · Post by **canadas_baby** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:11 pm

tazman2087 wrote:I guess from your perspective, its OK to use elicit drugs, dehumanize women, and oppress people of another race.

What has any of this got to do with the Hymn of One? Do you have proof that any of this has happened with the Hymn of One? Or are you just assuming with your closed mind that we are like that?

tazman2087 · Post by **tazman2087** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:21 pm

Aliester Crowley, the basis of the HoO was involve in all of those activities. I think before i throw out such strong accusations. You should too.

Danielle · Post by **Danielle** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:02 pm

tazman2087 wrote:I guess from your perspective, its OK to use elicit drugs, dehumanize women, and oppress people of another race.

Look, I don't know about you tazman but elicit drugs are not apart of my lifestyle. An occasional glass of wine, or a few shots of vodka sure, but elicit drugs are a personal choice... not a collective one.

Dehumanization of women? If anything we are a matriarchal society. Look at Lucy and Alix, very strong women within the Order! And the attention given to other females like Bree and our other sisters puts our Order far ahead of your society in female rights. We understand that nature has always intended women to be dominant and strong, and we hold them to a position where they have the chance to be.

Oppression of people? We are not a culture that places citizens under arrest for potential to commit a crime. We do not arrest and hold up to 250 people indifinatley without trial. Our way of life is not dictated by the media, nor does it hold stigmas against the very people among us. Before you critize our community, take a bold look at your own. You may not like what you see.

tazman2087 · Post by **tazman2087** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:16 pm

i aready dont like what i see in my society, but i deal. I hate most media sources, and consider myself a skeptic. Hence my vast distrust in the HoO. I question everything, and i dont like what i see from the HoO. there are too many ppl out there, televangelists, cultists, manipulators, and just plain bulls**tters that have ruined lives. Anyone that comes along claiming to be a messiah or a solution to your problems, i immediately distrust them, and they have to prove on a large scale taht they are for real. I dont agree with a lot of the stuff america does, and i personally think a lot of people are too stupid to make the decisions that they do. All that i am basing what i am saying on is from what i know from research on crowley and his beliefs. thats where i got the sexism, drugs, and racism from.

Danielle · Post by **Danielle** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:32 pm

tazman2087 wrote:i aready dont like what i see in my society, but i deal. I hate most media sources, and consider myself a skeptic. Hence my vast distrust in the HoO. I question everything, and i dont like what i see from the HoO. there are too many ppl out there, televangelists, cultists, manipulators, and just plain bulls**tters that have ruined lives. Anyone that comes along claiming to be a messiah or a solution to your problems, i immediately distrust them, and they have to prove on a large scale taht they are for real. I dont agree with a lot of the stuff america does, and i personally think a lot of people are too stupid to make the decisions that they do. All that i am basing what i am saying on is from what i know from research on crowley and his beliefs. thats where i got the sexism, drugs, and racism from.

Although Bree's family did encourage Crowlyism, it is not a requirement within the Order. Some of his ideas are worth analysis and thought, but it is not all to be taken at a literal and face value. The same goes for your bible. Many of the ideas and concepts would be ludicris if taken at a literal level, but because most people understand that the bible is written mainly metaphorically the lessons within it are then seen as valid and reasonable.

Nieriel.Manwathiel · Post by **Nieriel.Manwathiel** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:40 pm

Danielle wrote:Perspective, is everything.

if your picture is anything to go on, it makes me laugh.
You know what happens when someone with perfect eyesight gets glasses? Their perspective becomes horrendously skewed!

Danielle · Post by **Danielle** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:58 pm

Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote:
Danielle wrote:Perspective, is everything.
if your picture is anything to go on, it makes me laugh.
You know what happens when someone with perfect eyesight gets glasses? Their perspective becomes horrendously skewed!

Alrighty, but the reason I wear glasses is because I'm hellza near sighted and I'm a bad enough driver already.

Watchout pedestrians.

tazman2087 · Post by **tazman2087** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:28 pm

Just say,
"If you don't like my driving, stay off the sidewalk!"

Nieriel.Manwathiel · Post by **Nieriel.Manwathiel** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:19 am

As I always say to my sisters when they're driving:

"Pedestrian! Twenty points!"

chershaytoute · Post by **chershaytoute** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:35 pm

Wow, Jonas, bet you weren't expecting lessons in History, Comparative Religions, and Optometry 'round here either, huh?

(Everyone else...in character discussion...?

Love you, guys...I'm not even gonna ASK for on-topic...cuz someone's bound to ask me what the heck THAT is! <snicker>)