Lonelygirl15

Either way Jonas and DB need to get in contact with these people, and I think it's time we upped are level of involvement. Does anybody know where Julia is?

If Toby was at the party, he was most likely in on all this, as part of HoO. So, what good does it do to find his cousin, who might be brainwashed too?

And, for the record, I didn't vote.

atnegam wrote:

allisonjenna wrote:

megs229 wrote: who's tanya?

In the "D-bone remix" of the Uncle Dan video, I think it's Toby? talking to this girl, Tanya, and he says something about talking to Alex so Tanya can get her nephews... what I think he says is file. I could be wrong.

But then they notice Daniel filming and she introduces herself and the dude gets all angry at daniel.

It is probably better to track down a relative, than to start hunting for all the party guests.

Well, at the time I though she was probably someone to be concerned about, and it looks like I was right, considering the new video.

SARAHPHOBIA88 wrote:If Toby was at the party, he was most likely in on all this, as part of HoO. So, what good does it do to find his cousin, who might be brainwashed too?

And, for the record, I didn't vote.

So they can spy and break into his house!

At this point, even if they found Alex, she would probably be more careful about what she revealed. Toby may have all sorts of stuff about Jonas's parents, Sonia, Carl, and other stuff!

It would help to know his exact relation to Alex and Jonas.

atnegam has a point, Sarahphobia. We need to gather as much intell as we can possibly get before we make our next move. As far as we know the HoO and the Order has Bree. Where? We are not exactly sure of. We have to go about this with our head instead of our guts if we want to stop them.

He probably doesn't know anything, even if he is in the Order.
Don't forget how much pain Jonas was in during the whole Aunt Alex thing. I don't think he needs his emotions about his family re-evoked.
The Order doesn't tell its members anything. They are better off finding Bree's location based on her most recent video (which they failed to mention in theirs).

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:He probably doesn't know anything, even if he is in the Order.
Don't forget how much pain Jonas was in during the whole Aunt Alex thing. I don't think he needs his emotions about his family re-evoked.
The Order doesn't tell its members anything. They are better off finding Bree's location based on her most recent video (which they failed to mention in theirs).

But he can kill 2 birds with 1 stone this way! Let's look at what Jonas wants to do right now:
1. Find Bree
2. Find his parents

His cousin is a connection to both (if he is indeed in the Order). Toby seems the sort of fellow who would be of assistance even if it is just to have his house broken into and to get tied up for awhile.

If he isn't in the Order, maybe Jonas can have happy family time.

(I love how I have been watching the videos since summer and only now I contribute and it is to defend this idea until Jonas tracks down his cousin).

Once you get Bree back, you should definitely contact your cousin Toby. He looked like he wanted to talk to you and he looked like he felt a little guilty. I think you could break him. Are his parents the same as Alex's? How is he related to you?

Cleo wrote:Once you get Bree back, you should definitely contact your cousin Toby. He looked like he wanted to talk to you and he looked like he felt a little guilty. I think you could break him. Are his parents the same as Alex's? How is he related to you?

They don't have the same parents. Alex is his aunt. Toby is his cousin.

atnegam wrote:

Cleo wrote:Once you get Bree back, you should definitely contact your cousin Toby. He looked like he wanted to talk to you and he looked like he felt a little guilty. I think you could break him. Are his parents the same as Alex's? How is he related to you?

They don't have the same parents. Alex is his aunt. Toby is his cousin.

Oops. OK...brief brain lapse there, but I'm still wondering what branch of the family Toby is from. I assume that he's the child of Jonas' dad's full brother. Is that right, Jonas? You said Alex was your dad's only sister (or half-sister, really). You also said that Alex's mom was much younger than your grandpa, so I doubt your aunt Alex could have a full brother old enough to have had a child Toby's age. So...either Toby isn't part of the Order and was just at Alex's party visiting, which seems a bit unlikely, OR Alex had converted other members of your family who weren't related to her mom (the original Order connection). I'm wondering when and how that might've happened. Why hadn't you talked to Toby in so long? How did he react after your parents died? Are his parents still living? Do you think they're part of the Order too?