deagol wrote:To be fair, I think I remember what post sphinx was refering to... and no I didn't think it was racist but I can see how someone might. I think it's one of those misunderstandings with how people use some expressions, kinda like the hanky-panky thing.
oohhh ok! well then, my previous statement may be semi-ignored then.
Well...lets go back to the no drama rule and I'll continue my campaigne for bunnies.
And as most of you know, I have an obsession with certain bunnies...let me share with you my obsession/career that most of my role models have:
Well....color me embarrassed! I really didn't know so many people thought of "hanky-panky" as something sexual. LOL! No wonder sphinx thought that.
Well I assure you, I didn't mean it that way. K?
As for the racist thing? I still have no freaking idea to what you are referring. If somebody was bothered by something I said, and thought it racist, nobody brought it to my attention. And clearly...things can be easily misinterpreted. I told my husband this evening that somebody called me a racist and he laughed his butt off. I may be many things...but a racist isn't one of them.
Bethy, I can't say I'm completely sure of this, it could have been someone completely different, but for some reason I'm thinking of you, maybe something about that post and the recent one in wich you also talk about your work ethics and standards. Either way I didn't think it was offensive or racist, but whatever. I'm sorry if it wasn't you...
I can't find the post, but I remember the person was talking about her job and getting some vacation time, and the comment was that she couldn't get any vacation, well, because her boss was jewish. I think it was not meant as a negative statement towards jewish people, on the contrary, I read the intention as meaning jewish people demand a lot of themselves and hold others to higher standards. I don't really want to rehash any of that here, as it is clearly off topic and I can see how it could start flames. I thought about PMing you but perhaps some other people needed this clarification. Oh well, if a mod thinks this is inapropriate feel free to delete it.
It was a reference to the fact that she gets to take a lot of holidays because she's Jewish. It's a fact. She's Jewish. So what? It's not racial by any means. It's her faith. It's like saying I don't bring Coke to my Mormon friend's dinner parties...because they're all Mormon, they don't drink things with stimulants in them, like caffeine. I totally respect that, and I'm happy to abide their wishes. Much like I'm happy to work my ass off for my boss.
I don't get much time off of work because my boss is always taking it. Sheesh. It's a running joke in my office...and it has nothing to do with race. I adore my boss. I need a new job, but I adore my boss. I mean, if I wanted to tell stereotypical jokes...it would be about her husband...the accountant.
And yeah, we have high ethics standards in my office, but it's nothing to do with race or religion. It's basic human dignity. We work with the elderly and disabled.
If this bothered people so much, somebody should have brought it to me, I don't always see the following posts. I'm sorry if that offended somebody, but I certainly didn't mean it in any way negative or derogatory. I'm not better than she is, nor she better than I. I simply respect her faith and work hard for her...even though I hate my job...I love my boss.
Clearly, people will take things how they want to take them, and you can't always read intention in print. C'est la vie.
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I think the point deagol was trying to make is you can't always discern a persons intent simply by reading a post. People "hear" the words differently in their own heads.
Uhm, I grew up here Southern California...so I know what it's about. I like diversity...but things are going from diversity to something else. And, yes...over half of LA county's adult population is functionally illiterate. That's an absolute fact. IT came from a study done by the United Way. This is because the diversity is turning into attitudes of entitlesment. The area is fracturing into cultures, and many of the cultures don't value the level of education available to them.
At any rate...people who have been born and raised here are leaving en mass. That's another fact...and it's because of the cultural entitlement issues. I know what neighborhoods to avoid...not becuase of crime (although there are some places I wouldn't go for that reason) but because I know if s tore with have somebody who speaks English nor not.
Last weekend I really wanted some true Ramen soup. It's LA...you can find anything in LA. BUt, as it turned out, the shopping center I found had signs all in Japanese...I knew I was in trouble...but I went in anyway, hoping the menus would be in English.
No. In fact...I got totally stared at by the patrons and staff when I walked in. I was clearly the only non-Japanese person in the whole place. The menus didn't have a word of English. The waitress had no idea what I meant when..on giving up on the menu...I simply asked for a Miso Ramen with vegetables. She didn't understand...and it took another patron to relay the message for me. I was the one embarassed...even though I really had no reason to be.
I don't mind the cultural diversity...but this is the US...not Japan. A lot of cultures in LA are glomming together rather than assimilating and sharing their culture. There's a big difference.
I can see how this could be construed to be.. well, ethnocentrist, xenophobic, perhaps..
It's definitely not p.c.
But, meh
Just thought I'd throw it in here, since when I first saw this post I cringed. Perhaps, perhaps, it had another meaning. Or perhaps I am reading it wrong.
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