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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:51 pm
by ignatzmouse
Luminous wrote:Check this out:

http://donwest.org/opaphid/facilityj_decoder.php

This is a decoder McPackage built for decoding Walter style number sequences. He built it just for us!

Now all we have to do is figure out what to run through it. :roll:

I will post this on the Facility J page in LGpedia in the tool box.
OK, now that is super-cool. I hope Walter hasn't drastically changed his cryptosystem!

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:01 pm
by Luminous
Something I just noticed. Every time Walter has given us a series of random letters which has been a viginere key, those letters have been lower case. This time the letters IKYOIYK are all capitalized. To me, this reinforces the idea that this is not a key, a conclusion most of you have come to already, I guess I'm a little slow. Maybe someone else has already mentioned this, and I missed it. I think it definitely eliminates the option of these letters being a key, and emphasizes that they are, infact, the text we are to decode. I don't know if this moves us any farther forward or not, but I just thought I'd share the observation.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:07 pm
by TOSG
Luminous wrote:Something I just noticed. Every time Walter has given us a series of random letters which has been a viginere key, those letters have been lower case. This time the letters IKYOIYK are all capitalized. To me, this reinforces the idea that this is not a key, a conclusion most of you have come to already, I guess I'm a little slow. Maybe someone else has already mentioned this, and I missed it. I think it definitely eliminates the option of these letters being a key, and emphasizes that they are, infact, the text we are to decode. I don't know if this moves us any farther forward or not, but I just thought I'd share the observation.
I think that "eliminates" might be a bit strong of a word, but that's a really good point - I hadn't thought of that.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:12 pm
by Luminous
TOSG wrote:
Luminous wrote:Something I just noticed. Every time Walter has given us a series of random letters which has been a viginere key, those letters have been lower case. This time the letters IKYOIYK are all capitalized. To me, this reinforces the idea that this is not a key, a conclusion most of you have come to already, I guess I'm a little slow. Maybe someone else has already mentioned this, and I missed it. I think it definitely eliminates the option of these letters being a key, and emphasizes that they are, infact, the text we are to decode. I don't know if this moves us any farther forward or not, but I just thought I'd share the observation.
I think that "eliminates" might be a bit strong of a word, but that's a really good point - I hadn't thought of that.
I think it would have been lowercase if he intended us to use it as a key. Instead its uppercase - like aminos, only we know they aren't aminos. I think we may very well be on the right track with the elements.

And, as has already been observed, 8 corresponds with electron shells, and + / - can relate to acid / base (although I'm not sure which one is which).

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:47 pm
by janesalteredstates
I'm desperate.

How possible is it that information from a previous drop/puzzle factors into this? I'm going to look.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:07 pm
by TOSG
Here's some food for thought, although I'm not so sure that this is going to lead anywhere:

If you take "IKYOIYK," and shift I, K, and O eight letters backwards, and shift Y eight letters forward, you get "ACCGACC," which is a DNA sequence.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:52 pm
by Ziola
And that would fall into line with his previous puzzles, yes? :?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:55 pm
by ShardinsKitten
Walter updated his profile to say
It is tough being an Octalgenarian. You kids may be young now, but you will eventually Convert to be like me, no matter how Plain you start.
Jane took IKYOIYK and converted it to Octal to get :

111113131117111131113

Which lead to if (a=1) the sequence:

aaa aac aca aag aaa aca aac

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:10 pm
by ShardinsKitten
[20:58] <blahblablee> Lysine_Asparagine_Threonine_Lysine_Lysine_Threonine_Asparagine
[20:58] <AlteredJane> oh jees
[20:58] <AlteredJane> lol
[20:58] <@ShardinsKitten> I'll use MPs thing to get the letters
[20:59] <AlteredJane> ok
[20:59] <blahblablee> that doesn't look like it'll work
[20:59] <blahblablee> but yeah go for it
[20:59] <blahblablee> it looks too repetitive..
[20:59] <AlteredJane> yeah that looks weird
[20:59] <blahblablee> but i double checked it...
[20:59] <AlteredJane> yeah
[20:59] <blahblablee> so ...
[20:59] <blahblablee> its right..
[20:59] <blahblablee> take out the _'s
[21:00] <@ShardinsKitten> HHECURE
[21:00] <AlteredJane> lol
[21:00] <@ShardinsKitten> yea I did
[21:00] <Luminous> THECURE
[21:00] <AlteredJane> Maybe The Cure?
[21:00] <blahblablee> yes!
[21:00] <blahblablee> lol
[21:00] <blahblablee> success...
[21:00] <Musique> so we're destroying the cure?
[21:00] <Luminous> Yes, I did it in McP's software :)
[21:00] <blahblablee> i did something!
[21:00] <AlteredJane> the band? LOL
[21:00] <blahblablee> yay
[21:00] <Luminous> lol
[21:00] <@ShardinsKitten> where did you get the T
[21:00] <blahblablee> we're destroying the cure though?
[21:00] <AlteredJane> that is my question
[21:00] <blahblablee> the cure for what?!
[21:01] <Musique> Rickets?
[21:01] <Luminous> I just ran the words through the j translator McP built
[21:01] <AlteredJane> HEY
[21:01] <blahblablee> cancer?
[21:01] <AlteredJane> oh
[21:01] <Luminous> lol
[21:01] <AlteredJane> hahahahahahaha

JANE YOU"RE AWESOME!!!

so the answer is "The Cure" we are destroying "The Cure"

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:11 pm
by janesalteredstates
:oops: <-- blushing
:shock: <-- actually in shock


thank you.

So, i sent a message to Walter asking him about "The Cure." Now we wait, I guess.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:14 pm
by trainer101
If we have participated in the destruction of "The Cure". then the question now is - Who's side is Walter really on?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:16 pm
by blahblablee
trainer101 wrote:If we have participated in the destruction of "The Cure". then the question now is - Who's side is Walter really on?
Isn't it obvious...

The Order :smt012

Stupid double crossing old fart...

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:17 pm
by Ziola
blahblablee wrote:
trainer101 wrote:If we have participated in the destruction of "The Cure". then the question now is - Who's side is Walter really on?
Isn't it obvious...

The Order :smt012

Stupid double crossing old fart...
:smt046

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:19 pm
by lg15panda
"The Cure", eh? That's ironic!

I wonder if the "cure" turns out to be the actual cure (to XSCID??) or whether it is a misnomer.

Excellent work you guys!

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:20 pm
by trainer101
Ziola wrote:
blahblablee wrote:
trainer101 wrote:If we have participated in the destruction of "The Cure". then the question now is - Who's side is Walter really on?
Isn't it obvious...

The Order :smt012

Stupid double crossing old fart...
:smt046
I just knew you'd be right around the corner. 8)

So, Walter works for OpA... wonder what Traveler J's association is?