0138 "Men are from Mars" 2/22/07

aideen · Post by **aideen** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:58 pm

Ok, up to page 5, but I just watched the WHOLE video, and when Bree went OHMYGOD blahblah, Daniels face made me want to cry.

It really sounded like when kids are in school and their friends are fighting, and it sounded to me as if Bree liked Jonas and didn't really know.

I think Daniel heard it too.

AM · Post by AM » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:59 pm

Smelltheflowers wrote:Am I the only one who was alarmed when Daniel yelled "Who are you?" at Bree as he was coming in from the cold?

I realize it's probably just me being paranoid and that Daniel meant "Who are you, a therapist?" or something along those lines.

I guess I'm just weary of any long term negative effects of his being taken by the Order. Who knows what that did to his mind and / or his memory.

Other than that though, I absolutely adored this video, particularly when Bree asked Daniel why he cared if she went hiking with Jonas alone and Daniel gave her that soulful 'because I care you for' look

I was just about to mention this but I had a completely different take on it. Daniel has used the 'Who are you' line before, and with just as much disgust in his voice. He used it towards Gemma. What it means to him is "I trusted you and you betrayed me. You are not who I thought you were." It had a chilling effect on me because IMO it was meant to signal his final, complete disenchantment with Bree. I honestly think that he feels completely bitter towards her now and it worries me because now, more than ever, when they should be all pulling together, they are finding themselves estranged.

OP will certainly be using this rift to her advantage, either to get one of them alone (not hard since they aren't working as a team anymore due to bickering) or to turn one of them to the OP side (most likely DB since he's been their target for a long time).

EternalGoddess · Post by **EternalGoddess** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:00 am

Danial is completely over reacting. Who cares if they went on a hike together? They're friends, and even though the video shows that Jonas is into Bree, he didn't try anything on her. He seems to be keeping his lovey dovey moosh all to himself (except the fact that he can't stop recording her). He needs to let it go! But nevertheless I still thought this vid was funny.

aideen · Post by **aideen** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:04 am

Smelltheflowers wrote:Am I the only one who was alarmed when Daniel yelled "Who are you?" at Bree as he was coming in from the cold?

I realize it's probably just me being paranoid and that Daniel meant "Who are you, a therapist?" or something along those lines.

I guess I'm just weary of any long term negative effects of his being taken by the Order. Who knows what that did to his mind and / or his memory.

Other than that though, I absolutely adored this video, particularly when Bree asked Daniel why he cared if she went hiking with Jonas alone and Daniel gave her that soulful 'because I care you for' look

AGREEDAGREEDAGREEDICOMPLETELYAGREE

autumneternal · Post by **autumneternal** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:05 am

TOSG wrote:
watching_watchers wrote: I don't think Daniel is being a dipshit. I think it is totally understandable for him to be upset. After all. He knew Bree first. He loved her first. He still obviously does. And now Jonas, someone he thought was a good friend of his or a "bro" is moving in on her, or so it seems to him and alot of us. && she seems to like him also. So I think he has good reasoning to be upset and such. Calling Jonas a piece of shit however, was uncalled for.
I could see that if Jonas were having sex with her, but they went hiking, and now Jonas has all of the sudden gone from his best friend to the scum of the earth. I'm not saying that it's not believable, but he's acting like a high school freshman right now.

Apparently, in the Breeniverse, hiking is a euphemism for sex...or so they'd have us think after all this drama. Heh.

watermelonhead · Post by **watermelonhead** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:18 am

"i'm going for a walk.. .ALONE"

*SPOILER ALERT*

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BYE BYE BREE!

uh oh! looks like bree is missing!
uh oh! looks like Jonas and Daniel will have to put their differences aside (for now and will need to team up together if they ever want to find Bree
uh oh! conflict!

robtomorrow · Post by **robtomorrow** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:27 am

watermelonhead wrote:
BYE BYE BREE!

uh oh! looks like bree is missing!
uh oh! looks like Jonas and Daniel will have to put their differences aside (for now and will need to team up together if they ever want to find Bree
uh oh! conflict!

Didn't they already do that one?

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:35 am

TOSG wrote:
watching_watchers wrote: I don't think Daniel is being a dipshit. I think it is totally understandable for him to be upset. After all. He knew Bree first. He loved her first. He still obviously does. And now Jonas, someone he thought was a good friend of his or a "bro" is moving in on her, or so it seems to him and alot of us. && she seems to like him also. So I think he has good reasoning to be upset and such. Calling Jonas a piece of shit however, was uncalled for.
I could see that if Jonas were having sex with her, but they went hiking, and now Jonas has all of the sudden gone from his best friend to the scum of the earth. I'm not saying that it's not believable, but he's acting like a high school freshman right now.

Just a couple of observations:

First of all, when did checking the perimeter become hiking? The fact that the wording has changed indicates to me that it was more leisure than actual work. This is subtle, but important I think. Both Jonas and Bree called it hiking. They should have clarified to Daniel that they were checking the perimeter, even if the video showed them having fun.

Secondly, did you see the hurt look on Daniel's face when Bree asked him why he cared that she went hiking with Jonas? My heart bled for him. He's got it bad, and that hurt is going to take a long time to heal; that is, if he can ever get away from Bree to heal.

As for Daniel being upset about the hiking, I can kind of understand it. I mean, imagine you really love this girl, and you wake up and find she is gone, and so is the other guy. Then you find out she went "hiking" with the guy (who is supposed to be your friend). They didn't wake you up to go with them; they just went on their own.

Then, and this is the final blow...Bree uploads a video in which they both are clearly enjoying themselves and Jonas looks absolutely ecstatic. Again, Bree uploaded the video. Apparently she's too blind to see how much she's hurting Daniel or she doesn't care.

And I think that is the reason that Daniel is acting the way he is. I think after she rescued him there was a flicker of hope that she might come around. Now he sees that he's never going to have her; she is slipping through his fingers, and possibly into Jonas' arms. That, my friends, is a hard pill to swallow.

I feel so bad for Daniel. Jonas needs to try and understand, if he can.

This is really bad. Someone needs to sit down and tell Bree what a mess she's making.

bluegum · Post by **bluegum** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:22 am

watermelonhead wrote:"i'm going for a walk.. .ALONE"

****

BYE BYE BREE!

uh oh! looks like bree is missing!
uh oh! looks like Jonas and Daniel will have to put their differences aside (for now and will need to team up together if they ever want to find Bree
uh oh! conflict!

Well heres a thought to throw around.

Bree's okay. Jonas and Daniel....Bye Bye. Think about it They took Daniel only the last time, and look what happened. They handed him over when she agreed but then she took off. Okay so my thought is that if they take them both. One is set free when she agrees and the other after the ceremony.

Just a thought

AM · Post by AM » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:54 am

Again, Bree uploaded the video. Apparently she's too blind to see how much she's hurting Daniel or she doesn't care.

Don't read too much into that one. The Creators have indicated that they will be uploading all videos from now on onto the LG account first. They made this decision around the same time they merged the Opaphid ARG vids with the main story. As I understand it they did this so the fans who are following the LG story, but not neccesarily playing the ARG, wont have to look all over the place on different accounts to see if they missed anything significant in the story.

I still say he said "Who are you" in the same way he said "Gemma Who are you" after learning about the betrayal. It's an experssion we've heard him use before, used when someone he trusted betrayed him, so, again, perhaps we're looking into it farther than we need to?

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:43 am

It was an okay video..it also surprised me how little Bree knows about guys and relationships...I think she should have tried to feed their egos first and then make dinner for everyone--and make them all sit down together...=P But our lil Bree did no such thing. Maybe when Jonas goes out, he'll set off the traps. I wonder what kind of 'alarm' they have.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:49 am

Am I the only one who noticed she was speaking in a Nancy Drew type way? A way she usually doesn't talk?

sweetie55 · Post by **sweetie55** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:59 am

I'm kind of worried that Daniel is trying to solve what Tachy left in the car...I don't know why, but I have this feeling he'll end up solving it for Op instead. Also Jonas is still suspicious with the cell phone and going off to who knows where telling Bree she can't come.

EternalGoddess · Post by **EternalGoddess** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:05 am

longlostposter wrote:
TOSG wrote:
watching_watchers wrote: I don't think Daniel is being a dipshit. I think it is totally understandable for him to be upset. After all. He knew Bree first. He loved her first. He still obviously does. And now Jonas, someone he thought was a good friend of his or a "bro" is moving in on her, or so it seems to him and alot of us. && she seems to like him also. So I think he has good reasoning to be upset and such. Calling Jonas a piece of shit however, was uncalled for.
I could see that if Jonas were having sex with her, but they went hiking, and now Jonas has all of the sudden gone from his best friend to the scum of the earth. I'm not saying that it's not believable, but he's acting like a high school freshman right now.
Just a couple of observations:

First of all, when did checking the perimeter become hiking? The fact that the wording has changed indicates to me that it was more leisure than actual work. This is subtle, but important I think. Both Jonas and Bree called it hiking. They should have clarified to Daniel that they were checking the perimeter, even if the video showed them having fun.

Secondly, did you see the hurt look on Daniel's face when Bree asked him why he cared that she went hiking with Jonas? My heart bled for him. He's got it bad, and that hurt is going to take a long time to heal; that is, if he can ever get away from Bree to heal.

As for Daniel being upset about the hiking, I can kind of understand it. I mean, imagine you really love this girl, and you wake up and find she is gone, and so is the other guy. Then you find out she went "hiking" with the guy (who is supposed to be your friend). They didn't wake you up to go with them; they just went on their own.

Then, and this is the final blow...Bree uploads a video in which they both are clearly enjoying themselves and Jonas looks absolutely ecstatic. Again, Bree uploaded the video. Apparently she's too blind to see how much she's hurting Daniel or she doesn't care.

And I think that is the reason that Daniel is acting the way he is. I think after she rescued him there was a flicker of hope that she might come around. Now he sees that he's never going to have her; she is slipping through his fingers, and possibly into Jonas' arms. That, my friends, is a hard pill to swallow.

I feel so bad for Daniel. Jonas needs to try and understand, if he can.

This is really bad. Someone needs to sit down and tell Bree what a mess she's making.

That's good observation. I didn't even notice that the wording changed to hiking. But even so, it was just hiking. They both were having fun together, but It' not like they were really doing anything that would make me understand why he was upset. If Jonas and her were flirting with eachother then I could see why he would be angry with Jonas. But they weren't, they both were just playing around in the snow. They did however watch a movie together ealier that day then planned to go out, but that was it.It's not like they were on a date. But I do see you're point. I think any guy would be a little edgy from it,but I don't think that Danial should get that mad.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:50 am

AM wrote:
Again, Bree uploaded the video. Apparently she's too blind to see how much she's hurting Daniel or she doesn't care.
Don't read too much into that one. The Creators have indicated that they will be uploading all videos from now on onto the LG account first. They made this decision around the same time they merged the Opaphid ARG vids with the main story.

They haven't started doing it yet, though. Notice, for instance, that "Jonas Sucks" is on DB's account and Jonas' account got the St. Valentine's Day Massacre video not too long ago. It was implied that Bree uploaded this.