0092 Bad Decisions(12/6/06)

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:22 pm

Maybe the guy Gemma is dating is Jonas.

Why am I saying this when Jonas is in America and Gemma in the UK? I don't know...

JacksAndDouches · Post by **JacksAndDouches** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:29 pm

Ok this series USED to be believable. but not after this vid. cmon are you trying to tell me any hetero male would act like that on a THIRD date with Gemma. Everyone knows the 3rd date is the biggy, thats when you get some

If the parallel is Bree = guy Gemma went with a date on, then wake the F up Bree, don't screw up the third date!

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:57 pm

A couple of observations regarding Gemma:

In Tachyons last communication with Brother she makes it a point to allude to all of Gemma’s videos.

Also, there is a list of OpAphid correspondence that Tachyon retrieved during a break-in at Op’s headquarters. Gemmers19 is on the list, confirming that she has had contact with OpAphid.

Here are some ideas being kicked around in the Op portion of the forums:

Aja wrote:So the "look familiar" is just Tach's way of saying, "Hey, remember her? We know that Gemma chick!"?

Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote:this is more irrefutable evidence that tachy and gemma ARE linked, though we dunno the specifics yet.

JuJu Bean wrote:I was just reviewing old videos of Gemma since I didn't really pay attention to her much back then. She has on an American Eagle sweater in An Awkward Silence....which is not sold in London as far as I know. Which she is supposely supposed to be in for Uni since she "wanted to branch off from things)..A clue that maybe Gemma isn't in London?

ixlr8 wrote:Tachyon wants Brother to take a good long look at Gemma's videos. Maybe there's something that Tachyon is trying to tell Brother about Gemma. I don't feel comfortable with making assumptions as to what that is, however, I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

diastres wrote:In "It's Not Your Decision," Gemma mentions a boy Sam that she wasn't allowed to see anymore once her parents found out she had a crush. Perhaps Brother is Sam?

sphinx wrote:It's a small world after all. It's a small world after all. It's a small world after all. It's a small small world.

A lot of loose threads that need to be tied together. I'll post this in Plot Discussion also where we can try to make a sweater out of the loose threads.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:00 pm

JacksAndDouches wrote:Ok this series USED to be believable. but not after this vid. cmon are you trying to tell me any hetero male would act like that on a THIRD date with Gemma. Everyone knows the 3rd date is the biggy, thats when you get some

If the parallel is Bree = guy Gemma went with a date on, then wake the F up Bree, don't screw up the third date!

What if Gemma is really trying to help? A stretch as usual but maybe "3rd Date" is actually a clue to a date on the calendar! The third....hmmmm...to Google I go...

JacksAndDouches · Post by **JacksAndDouches** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:06 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:
JacksAndDouches wrote:Ok this series USED to be believable. but not after this vid. cmon are you trying to tell me any hetero male would act like that on a THIRD date with Gemma. Everyone knows the 3rd date is the biggy, thats when you get some

If the parallel is Bree = guy Gemma went with a date on, then wake the F up Bree, don't screw up the third date!
What if Gemma is really trying to help? A stretch as usual but maybe "3rd Date" is actually a clue to a date on the calendar! The third....hmmmm...to Google I go...

as far as I know Bree and Daniel have only been on one date right? the bowling thing....then they leaped right into cohabitation...however...Gemma makes it well known that things changed during the INTERMISSION> DUH DUH DUH

fsk282 · Post by **fsk282** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:35 pm

so, her story, was it about betrayal?
she was starting to trust that guy, and he betrayed her.
is she telling bree that she is or is going to start betraying her? she seemed very unapologetic about it. i mean that story couldn't have just been fluff, it has to mean something, and what about the rose?
i think she's betraying bree, she is ratting her out to the order. but i don't like jonas either, i think he might be crazy. who knows.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:43 pm

JacksAndDouches wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:
JacksAndDouches wrote:Ok this series USED to be believable. but not after this vid. cmon are you trying to tell me any hetero male would act like that on a THIRD date with Gemma. Everyone knows the 3rd date is the biggy, thats when you get some

If the parallel is Bree = guy Gemma went with a date on, then wake the F up Bree, don't screw up the third date!
What if Gemma is really trying to help? A stretch as usual but maybe "3rd Date" is actually a clue to a date on the calendar! The third....hmmmm...to Google I go...
as far as I know Bree and Daniel have only been on one date right? the bowling thing....then they leaped right into cohabitation...however...Gemma makes it well known that things changed during the INTERMISSION> DUH DUH DUH

Oh yeah, forgot to comment on the importance of the 3rd date.....that doofus would not have been mouthy to Gemma because everyone knows about the importance of the 3rd date.

ervae · Post by **ervae** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:53 pm

Woo.
I'm a bit late on the new video, I do have a few things to point out, and I apologize if they've already been named.

The dead rose wasn't in any of Gemma's videos before, and it's sitting there, dead and wilted, it's also Dark Red, which is a symbol of love...

Also, she wouldn't go on about her date for no reason, there may be hidden keywords, or a certain code between her and Bree.

I'm not exactly sure, but the numbers may have something to deal with it soon. I'm just glad to have another video, I can't wait to see what Bree and Daniel decide.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:01 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:Also, as someone mentioned why and how could Gemma be ticked that they didn't go home if she's watched the video that shows cameras in the rooms? That tells me

a. she's bad; Jonas good
b. they're both bad but have different purposes.

I think we're supposed to assume that those videos aren't really appearing on YouTube or Revver in the fictional world. One would think Bree or Daniel would have seen them by now because their fans from the forum would be screaming "Do you idiots not see these videos?!"

Reb · Post by **Reb** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:01 pm

I think that following this video there are only two real possibilities

1) Gemma is on the side of the order and is trying to convince Bree to go home and not to go to Jonas because they don't know where he is. She is getting frustrated because they aren't listening to her.

2) Gemma is being forced to make this video by the order and is trying to get a message accross to bree saying not to trust her.

Kristine · Post by **Kristine** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:09 pm

OK, I didn't read the other replied but here is my take...

When Gemma was worried that she was being followed, she was being followed and they caught up with her.

Her tune changed really fast after that giving advice that went against her previous attitude. She says Bree can only trust Daniel, which leads us to believe that they can't trust her either. She is trying to tell them what to do but has someone there making sure she does what the order wants her to tell Bree and Daniel.

Gemma says don't trust anyone except each other = don't trust her advice, do opposite.
Gemma says they should go home = don't go home.
Gemma says don't trust Jonas = go to Jonas' house.

If Gemma is being manipulated by the order and says to go home and not to go to Jonas' house, then they should do the opposite. She sounded very agitated and forced.

Gemma is still on their side, she just can't say that she is. The wilted rose was a cue to them that something was "off".

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:12 pm

ervae wrote:Woo.
I'm a bit late on the new video, I do have a few things to point out, and I apologize if they've already been named.

The dead rose wasn't in any of Gemma's videos before, and it's sitting there, dead and wilted, it's also Dark Red, which is a symbol of love...

Also, she wouldn't go on about her date for no reason, there may be hidden keywords, or a certain code between her and Bree.

I'm not exactly sure, but the numbers may have something to deal with it soon. I'm just glad to have another video, I can't wait to see what Bree and Daniel decide.

I'm thinking code....I'm HOPING code....or Gemma is the most self-centered person on earth. 3rd date might actually refer to a date??

ervae · Post by **ervae** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:16 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:
I'm thinking code....I'm HOPING code....or Gemma is the most self-centered person on earth. 3rd date might actually refer to a date??

Oh, me too. I'd be terribly dissapointed in her. Girls are allowed to ramble, but not when their friend's living on the streets and running from a religious cult. Shame on Gemma.

JacksAndDouches · Post by **JacksAndDouches** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:28 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:
JacksAndDouches wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote: What if Gemma is really trying to help? A stretch as usual but maybe "3rd Date" is actually a clue to a date on the calendar! The third....hmmmm...to Google I go...
as far as I know Bree and Daniel have only been on one date right? the bowling thing....then they leaped right into cohabitation...however...Gemma makes it well known that things changed during the INTERMISSION> DUH DUH DUH
Oh yeah, forgot to comment on the importance of the 3rd date.....that doofus would not have been mouthy to Gemma because everyone knows about the importance of the 3rd date.

yes the 3rd date is quite important...hmm what else was important. oh yea the ceremony! hooooooohaaaaaaaa

This is called Bad Decisions.....remember the 'ITs not your decision" vid?

well direct correlation people!!!! my God I've done it.. I have finally cracked a clue JEA JEA to recap

3rd date = ceremony
bree = dude on date with Gemma
Gemma = The Order
other girl that kisses dude = Daniel?

Holla at me!

glowe126 · Post by **glowe126** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:00 pm

Why did it have to be the third date? Gemma's a perv:) Maybe she was saying that even though she had met the perfect guy and they were going to live happily ever after third date style, that things blew up in her face. Or that guys can be fickle, so don't trust Jonas. She must have really gone crazy for the guy to blow her off on the third date. I mean she says all non-chalantly that she asked the guy about the girl, but knowing her and her paranoid tendencies (some dude looked at me in the bar and I think he is the homeless watcher), she probably blew up and used her Order-issued weapons on him. And all the fights she has with her flatmates. She's probably crazy, and bree needs to ignore her.

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0092 Bad Decisions(12/6/06)

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