maybe daniel is

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:20 am

pretending to be on the side of the order to find out info which is why he sent the text message to bree saying "no good"...so she would know not to actually listen to what Daniel tells her to do in the op video.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:51 pm

someone must like my theory...it seems more realistic for daniel to be a double agent than brainwashed or a hologram

HoorayForMeImMakingOut · Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:08 pm

hmm, I like that idea, but then that would be ripping off of the whole Gemma thing, cuz she was a double agent too

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:21 pm

nothing was ever confirmed with gemma

girlAnachronism · Post by **girlAnachronism** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:34 pm

Tachyon confirmed that Gemma had been working for the Order all along in her video series. Op confirmed that Gemma was dead when she sent the braille message RIP Gemma in one of her videos.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:36 pm

that to me doesn't mean anything

HoorayForMeImMakingOut · Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:41 pm

well, its pretty obvious gemma was on the orders side. I dont know why you wouldnt take those things into account

cbizzle44 · Post by **cbizzle44** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:43 pm

yeah, but double implies she was also on bree's side
which ppl pretty much assume she wasn't

HoorayForMeImMakingOut · Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:46 pm

yea youre right, i guess double agent wasnt the best way to put it because she wasnt after all on Bree's side. But she pretended to be.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:46 pm

HoorayForMeImMakingOut wrote:well, its pretty obvious gemma was on the orders side. I dont know why you wouldnt take those things into account

I don't believe the info to be acurate..there was never anything in the videos about it in the main storyline

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:47 pm

I'm of the impression that Daniel's been brainwashed, but I won't say it's impossible that -- for once -- he, Bree, and Jonas actually came up with a plan to infiltrate OpAphid and try to take them out from within. In fact, I would love that. I don't think that's what happened and would be sooooooooo surprised if they really did it (not to mention in complete awe and respect of how well they would have played the bad guys), but I won't say it's impossible.

As for Gemma, I think it was confirmed that she was with OpAphid about as much as it possibly could be (the hanging out with Lucy, the "Are you sure the 'D' in 'Aphid' isn't an option?" thing, the never actually being in London, and the whole trying to kill Brother months before she ever started talking to Bree on YouTube thing). OpAphid taking the time to wish her good things in the hereafter isn't a major indication on the level of those other things, but combined with them it's another decent indication.

In any event, with Gemma's actor having left the series, I doubt we'll be seeing her again anyway, so it's doubtful there will ever be a question of "Was she really a good guy despite all those things?"

Anyway, back to Daniel. The only problem I can see with the idea is how he would be able to convince OpAphid that he sincerely changed his mind.

HoorayForMeImMakingOut · Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:02 pm

Well, Tachyon is official and a part of the LG ARG. And I remember Daniel mentioning it and saying something like " I just saw Gemma's last video, I can't believe she would do this, we've been following her advice all along"..... I dunno if that counts for anything.

chevyfudd · Post by **chevyfudd** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:29 pm

Gemma was with Lucy, this does not mean she was part of the order. Maybe she was just investigating for bree and it made her look bad.

Just for the record, I never really was a Gemma fan. I am just stating the possiblities.

only1 · Post by **only1** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:24 am

Op confirmed that Gemma was dead when she sent the braille message RIP Gemma in one of her videos.

why kill an agent that was helping your cause? The Order killing her makes xero sense. Unless they discovered that Gemma did their work but was going to try to help Bree, knowing what the Orer does to people.

In any event, with Gemma's actor having left the series, I doubt we'll be seeing her again anyway, so it's doubtful there will ever be a question of "Was she really a good guy despite all those things?"

really? I hadn't read that! Any reason why? Or she just found a better gig?

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:28 am

she is back in school...does not mean she isn't going to return