| This is more addictive than soap operas!!! by Brooke on 2006-10-22 16:35:38 nice by modelmotion on 2006-10-22 16:36:21 WHAT A JIP! Damn, I know this isn't real but wow, did she really have to lie to Daniel. He clearly cares a lot about her. What a shame that she's AN IDIOT THAT BELIEVES EVERYTHING SHE HEARS. I'm sorry, i get so caught up on these things... by stat on 2006-10-22 16:37:26 Creepy. Do I smell a resolution upcoming? by Katherine on 2006-10-22 16:37:31 I just cant stop watching this stuff! by Brittni on 2006-10-22 16:37:55 wow, first post?? this is getting slow, hurry it up already!!!!!! by Carmen on 2006-10-22 16:38:07 Its not on YouTube yet so there is still a small lag at least. by modelmotion on 2006-10-22 16:38:34 omg plot finally. you and daniel are gonna kick cult butt xx by lovescarred on 2006-10-22 16:38:47 so 'aleisters' birthday had nothing to do with the ceremony?!?!?! by lonelyaddict15 on 2006-10-22 16:38:50 woah i like the twists by liz on 2006-10-22 16:39:11 Wow, scary by A fan on 2006-10-22 16:39:48 Bree Lies. by Otobnaggie on 2006-10-22 16:40:02 Hey, i'm 3rd! lol Poor Bree :( Yes, yes...work things out with Daniel *nods* by Ashley on 2006-10-22 16:40:11 god she looks tired. maybe they wanted to catch daniel on camera so they could press charges against him with the police. then again... if they're that secretive.. they would take care of daniel, "internally" by sam on 2006-10-22 16:40:17 Orrrrrrrrr...not? lmao! by Ashley on 2006-10-22 16:40:34 OMG! I kept refreshing my page! this is awesome... will her and daniel run away together... it seems like their edging towards it... by holly on 2006-10-22 16:40:35 Good luck! I hope you guys can work things out. by tai on 2006-10-22 16:41:18 Be careful Daniel this could be a setup. Anyone who interferes with some other bloaks free right should be put down like a dog..I'm not sure what that means..but I could take a few guesses. by jade on 2006-10-22 16:41:36 If that wasn't the ceremony then when is it going to be? Have we got any different clues as to what date it could be? by yvedt on 2006-10-22 16:41:48 finally she brings daniel back into the mix. but still what's with the gemma person. Actually part of the sotry or just copy cat? by Lindsey on 2006-10-22 16:41:54 OK. Now this is getting unbelievable. Why would they go to trouble of setting up a fake ceremony? She seemed to be genuinely mad. Or is she making this video just to win Daniel on her side? Man, I have better things to do with my life than watch this! by gnome on 2006-10-22 16:42:21 *GASP* by Dave on 2006-10-22 16:42:51 post 5: yea thats weird!!!! Erm it has totally been drawn away from the alisair crowley thing now that that one was a fake, hmmmm.....to be honest i dont know where this is going anymore..... by sarahboo on 2006-10-22 16:43:29 My obsessive refreshing paid off! A new video at least! by Burgie on 2006-10-22 16:43:37 Oh he is a future sacrifice! by Brittni on 2006-10-22 16:43:43 Gah ha I knew it! by Dittany on 2006-10-22 16:43:54 wow im in the top 20, not that icare but normally im like 50th to comment, i actually can't view this vid until its on youtube, it won't load for me on this web page! grrrrrr by bella on 2006-10-22 16:46:31 It does make sense that it was a fake because that date is of little religious significance. That is unless the fake is a fake. Its getting twisted folks......hang onto ur seats.....its gonna be a bumpy ride!!! by modelmotion on 2006-10-22 16:46:35 oh btw on lonelygirl15's myspace it says her birthday is on the 26th...is this significant, is it jessica's or bree's birthday???? by sarahboo on 2006-10-22 16:46:47 Edit: 26th oct* by sarahboo on 2006-10-22 16:48:04 wow top 20! by Charlotte on 2006-10-22 16:48:37 SCORE!! My fake ceremony theory was right! I feel justified! by Ben on 2006-10-22 16:49:18 So she already knew they were going to do the fake ceremony back in the cookie episode? That seems kind of weird. by Burgie on 2006-10-22 16:50:08 Also, why didn't Bree respond to Gemma? by Burgie on 2006-10-22 16:51:46 Gemmers new video is interesting...there are a few points that need to be analyzed in there. The sirens...the bell in the community...what would happen when you would ring the bell? So how is atheism thwarting the right of an individual and Denderah is not..was Bree's mom forced into Denderah? Did Bree's parents create this religion? is this like a society from "The Village?" I find it interesting that she talks about dogs in every video so far. It's like dogs are some kind of obsession...maybe a community thing? do they worship dogs? Why did Bree's mom leave the community? It doesn't seem that Bree's father is very respected at all. by jade on 2006-10-22 16:53:22 You have to do the ceremony Bree. It's your big chance to meet Tom Cruise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just think about it Moonchild. by modelmotion on 2006-10-22 16:54:35 Who the hell is Gemma??????????????????? by Ashley on 2006-10-22 16:56:03 WHAT? DAMN THAT WAS INTERSTING... by JAY on 2006-10-22 16:56:20 So there's your answer to why Bree keeps getting shots. by jade on 2006-10-22 16:56:40 WOOOOOOO, nice turn to the story. :D I was beginning to think they might have run out of ideas. So glad that it wasn't the real ceremony, this adds more mystery. ^_^ by Morgan on 2006-10-22 16:57:19 WHAT HAPPENED TO CASSIE??? by Elphielives on 2006-10-22 16:57:35 Who's Cassie and who's Gemma?!?!?! by Ashley on 2006-10-22 16:58:35 Bree...why don't you talk to your mom...you said that she usually takes your side..right? by jade on 2006-10-22 17:00:18 OMG Bree you are in a crazy cult! oh no! by Nic on 2006-10-22 17:00:25 Cassie is a mutual friend(?)of Bree and Daniel discussed a few times in previous episodes. Gemma is putting posts on YouTube claiming to know Bree and telling little stories like Bree did in earlier videos that have clues. Go to YouTube and type in Gemma and Lonelygirl15 into the search. I think she has 2 videos up. by Elphielives on 2006-10-22 17:04:11 One thing I can say for this series is that they keep us jumping from one foot to the other in regards to who the protagonist is.. People have mentioned that Daniel might be in on all the cult stuff. The name "Danielbeast" as a reference to Crowley, etc. I'm starting to lean that way. It was really easy for him to break in to Lucy's apartment. His last video was shot in front of that fence--could have been the cult's compound or something. And just in general, both he and the cult are obviously preoccupied with surveillance. I'm sure there are other examples. Does anyone else agree or know of any support for this theory? by Margaret on 2006-10-22 17:05:14 YAY!!! The whole Daniel vs. Bree thing was putting me through it. (can't we all just get along?) FINALLY they're gonna be friends again! FINALLY Bree is acting like she has a heart/mind of her own! But what concerns me is "THEM" following along. Our leading characters are totally putting themselves in what I call "extremely uncertain danger"... But hey, at least they'll have each other & I think it's only a matter of time before they'll have Gemma, too! Whatta good day in LGworld! ~Kudos across the board~ by frank & rick on 2006-10-22 17:06:45 AHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAA a fake ceremony???? NOBODY SAW THAT COMING!!!! oooomigosh lol by rhemasan on 2006-10-22 17:10:47 Trust??? You talk about trust, like Daniel should trust you or something. Then you lie, oh yeah..it keeps getting better. If I were Daniel, seeing you would be the last thing on my mind. For all he knows you're setting him up. As for Lucy, and the ceremony I would have already told them to kiss off. You are either, being played, or the one doing the playing. Either way, I think you have totally changed. If I were Daniel I would walk away. by angie78gg on 2006-10-22 17:11:05 I hate private profiles on myspace..because I said it would happen and Jackie made her myspace private. I told you. by jade on 2006-10-22 17:15:48 Gemma's videos can also be viewed on this page near the top of comments to the right. Living in London and Nut Kill Man are the titles of her videos. If you are looking on youtube search for Gemmers19. by kelly on 2006-10-22 17:31:02 YES! awesome. I love this. Keep going. by Fei on 2006-10-22 17:35:00 Just to let everyone know, I'm not posting spoilers. I just post ideas that I have about the plot, that I think would be cool. Didn't see the "fake ceremony" thing coming, would have definitely posted that spoiler if I knew anything about. Someone mentioned before, we all got the date from Purple Monkey's ratings of the cookies. Which means Purple Monkey lied also, shame on you Purple Monkey. SHAME ON YOU! I think this is one of those, let's make things up as we go along and the writers have no clue where this is going. by Joe on 2006-10-22 17:37:00 She seems to be realizing that if these people think it's ok to lie to someone, then they could also be lying to her. Nice to see some "fleshing out" of the character. by girlganja on 2006-10-22 17:38:15 Gemma http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php/Gemmers19 Cassie: http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php/Cassie by modelmotion on 2006-10-22 17:38:43 Oooohhh... well, it's nice to see some doubt from Bree for the first time... she IS a smart girl, and it seemed a little unbelievable to make her turn 180 and become a brainwashed cult member. hmmm... some interesting speculations here... I'll think about this and come back. by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-22 17:38:46 sarahboo (about #29): The 26th is Bree's birthday. Happy birthday for Thursday, Bree! :-X by dooplex on 2006-10-22 17:39:53 I think Daniel needs to walk away now. She should have never lied to him because she was being led around. This "meeting" may even be a set up... by stellar220 on 2006-10-22 17:39:53 um, wow. plot twist. by vikimania on 2006-10-22 17:44:09 Wow, if the 26th is her birthday maybe the ceremony will be then. Makes sense if it is some sort of rite of passage ceremony. by Anne on 2006-10-22 17:45:42 yessssss..... 0 by Jessica on 2006-10-22 17:46:54 Burgie (about #34): Yes, that seems weird to me, too - the whole pre-empting a "fake" ceremony date. Hmmmm... stellar220 (about #56): Yep - something smells fresh-from-a-mountain-stream fishy, here! Daniel - Be Careful! by dooplex on 2006-10-22 17:47:51 Good Lord, a fake ceremony?! I literally yelped out loud at the bombshell! A kind of an annoying thing is though we were blatantly pointed out to 10-12-06 by P. Monkey, long before Daniel got suspicious. So clearly the ceremony was meant for that date, but now there's been A TWIST! Surely P. wouldn't have pointed us to the day of the fake, since there was no reason for a fake until recently, but whatever, that was still pretty good but I'm disturbed that this means Bree is still going through all that practicing! And since Daniel will see this, what use was it even doing a fake one since he's going to find out now! by HyeMew on 2006-10-22 17:48:36 I'm confused Ceremony was fake, and everyone on here including me thought it would be on the 12th. Which means people from the cult are on this site and know all about the videos, Daniel's and Bree's. Or Bree is more involved in the lie than she is admitting to. I'd have to go back to the old videos but did Bree say the ceremony was on the 12th before Daniel started stalking her? If she did, then the cult and Bree have been tricking Daniel for some unkown reason. If not than it could be they're just trying to get evidence on him to take to the police. Exactly when did Bree say the ceremony be, and who decided to have the fake ceremony on the 12th? This is worse than Lost. Yet, I still watch it. by Joe on 2006-10-22 17:52:53 I SAY THAT YOU SHOULD GET OUT OF THIS FREAKY CULT AND YOU SHOULD GET OUT NOW! I HOPE THE OLD BREE COMES BACK AND DANIEL AND BREE WILL BE LOVERS AGAIN. by Zoey on 2006-10-22 17:54:49 Hi Bree... Follow your heart. If you don't know what's up with the ceremony, and you don't feel safe about it, then you shouldn't go through with it. If you still want to do it, then you should. Maybe you should talk to your parents about this and see what they think. - bubbleteagirl :) by bubbleteagirl on 2006-10-22 17:56:38 Um... I re-watched her blog about the day after the ceremony. It didn't look like this was where they were going then. It seemed pretty legit. She talked too excitedly and in too much detail about what happened. And why would ALL these people get involved just to take pictures of Daniel following them? This better get more plausible. So far, it's starting to sound like crap to me. by Lizard on 2006-10-22 17:58:38 Did not see that comming. Maybe a climax on Holloween.If she rebels aginst the "cult" wouldent that be more of a sense of rebeling aginst her parents?It seems that thier minds have been over run...and they are unable to see things outside of the box. I knew they wouldent of let us down on the ceremony thing.....to build it up that much and have the snippet of it(although creepy) it was just...i dont know. That must be hard to sit thier and make yourself cry. Great work once agine. This really is a breath of fresh air. Dont even pay attention to the naysayers. by JeffParish on 2006-10-22 17:59:50 Actually bree, you didnt just lie, you SET HIM UP! And you were complaining that he wasnt a good friend! you are going to get him killed by Nic on 2006-10-22 18:02:28 I'm so concerned for Bree now. I'm glad her head has opened up to realize how fishy all the secretness is. I'm really anticipating something horrible to happen when the ceremony date does arrive. Scarrier yet, she'll be surprised by it. Now it sounds like she really doesn't have to be too prepared, because it's the elders who will probably be manipulating her body more than her performing what she's learned. I'm glad the truth has broken out. Thanks Bree. Joe raises a good point. If Bree baked those cookies before Daniel showed too much concern about the ceremony, then that probably means the elders are using her as bait, and Daniel may end up as a sacrifice. There is so much that can come from this twist. I'm quite excited! by silkyworm on 2006-10-22 18:02:39 Bree, you didn't just lie to Daniel. You lied to *all* of us. I think we deserve an apology. by dooplex on 2006-10-22 18:03:57 Oooh! Nice twist! I'm getting so addicted to this now..... by Anto on 2006-10-22 18:04:50 Looks like Gemma is part of this scam....how ingenious....go Gemma whatever your name is... by michael on 2006-10-22 18:05:22 The thing about the 12th is that everybody just assumed it was meant to represent a date, and everybody just assumed it was the date of the ceremony. Maybe the numbers are significant in some other way, or maybe it's a date but not the 12th of October, 2006. Now as for you Miss Bree: Run awaaaaay! For a girl who used to do nothing but sit at home and read books all day, you sure have a lack of critical thinking skills. Daniel has apparently put his life on the line trying to make sure you stay safe, whereas your parents and your helper have done nothing but give you injections and keep secrets from you. Hmm... who to trust? And to finish: I don't much care who Cassie is (or was) but why did you bring her up in the first place if she's not important? And would you please at least say hi to Gemma? It's obvious you know her. by crazyspoonhead on 2006-10-22 18:05:39 wow this just got a whole hell of a lot better. by katie on 2006-10-22 18:07:33 OMG! cassieiswatching was right! Bree Tells Lies!!!!!!!!!! by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed on 2006-10-22 18:08:10 One of the main themes emerging from this series is the dangers and deciet the internet can bring. It's so easy to lie, to sell yourself, for anyone to send messages to the whole world. If this Gemma thing is cannon it shows how easily people can communicate from across the world, and how involved and important a role that communication can play. It can be used to research with ease. I like how they've incorporated this theme considering the media it's being played on. And it's an important and interesting message at that. by sidewalkflight on 2006-10-22 18:08:37 Wonder if the evil cult people are monitoring the forums and You Tube, and stuff. If so Bree and Daniel are in trouble. things are starting to get really good here, now if we could just begin to resolve some of this Cassie stuff. by Joshua Cole on 2006-10-22 18:12:08 omg bree didnt just lie to daniel she lied to all of us i cant believe that why would they take pictures of daniel? are they trying to stalk him? i wonder........ by megan on 2006-10-22 18:12:27 Lizard (about #68): I just rewatched Bree's post-"ceremony" vid, too - and I came to the exact opposite conclusion to yourself. Bree's eyes were all over the place, and she didn't sound very convincing. From memory, one telltale sign of lying is excessive detail. I find that video now makes a lot more sense, in light of this most recent bombshell! by dooplex on 2006-10-22 18:13:59 so does this mean they know daniel tapes things, but don't know about this site? it must be, or she wouldn't have left this last post. by numbers on 2006-10-22 18:20:27 bree... gemmers sounds realy happy... u should quit the cult just like she did lesten to wut daniel and gemmers have to say u need them by yoshi on 2006-10-22 18:20:43 So... that was a twist I definately wasn't expecting. Awesome! by Katiegirl15 on 2006-10-22 18:22:02 NO NOT THE PINK STRIPED SHIRT AGAIN NO NO NO aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhh! by heynowyo on 2006-10-22 18:27:10 I definatley agree with Dooplex in response to Lizard. Bree gave us details that we already expected would happen. I remember being disappointed with it and how little detail she gave us. Also, there was no emotion, she was neither excited about it nor upset with what happened (we all predict her body will be manipulated). That video completely makes sense with the new info. by silkyworm on 2006-10-22 18:29:52 We can all anticipate for the next video to come out Tuesday. They seem to be releasing new posts every other day, in the late afternoon. :( It'd be nice if it were more sporadic. by silkyworm on 2006-10-22 18:32:10 heynowyo: She's not Princess Diana - y'know, some people actually *have* to wear their clothes more than once! by dooplex on 2006-10-22 18:32:27 maybe aliesters birthday was important and the ceremony was originally supposed to be on that date but then they found out that daniel was following them and knew that bree had been talking about the ceremony and whatnot on her vlogs so they had to change it. by megan on 2006-10-22 18:34:08 88th?? YOWZER!!! Bree is freakin' hot as a bucket of boiled pig fat! Why can't they have her in a bikini for every episode? The episodes should be centered on the beach from now on. by JB on 2006-10-22 18:34:49 MAAAN WOW *mouth drops* seriously....this is so addictive now. I'm happy that you ARE on daniel's side now =))) yay!!!!! and you told the truth, good job!! by Anduviel on 2006-10-22 18:39:23 i still want to know why the pic by the candles is blacked out. it has to be signifcant...doesnt it? by megan on 2006-10-22 18:40:04 #30 Ashley, Cassie is someone mentioned once in the Swimming video, someone on Youtube adopted the character and started posting videos, search for cassieiswatching on Youtube. Gemma is a new "fan based" character, her videos are also on Youtube, germmers19, but can also be found to right on this page under video comments. by robtomorrow on 2006-10-22 18:45:13 I also agree with Dooplex (post #80). In the post after the ceremony, her eyes were really shifty and she had had an injection in her arm that day. Why would she have the injection after the ceremony? Not sure if this is relevant at all, but someone had made a reference to the fact that the candles in her Aleister shrine were still white even after the ceremony. If that theory holds any water, then it fits with the fact that the ceremony was fake. She also cultivated the impression that she was giving a lot of detail, when all the while she was just making vague statements like "I feel so much closer to the people that I love now". She referred to the Enochian symbols a little bit too.. she said that she had gotten them all right and that she had even understood the incantation at the end of the ceremony. I figure, what the heck! If you're going to lie about the ceremony, you may as well make yourself look like a genius while you're doing it! That's what anyone would do in her shoes. This may be old news, but apparently Gemma has come forward as an actress as well. On YouTube the only two channels she is watching are Bree's and Daniel's. I'm glad they're introducing new characters! by heidi on 2006-10-22 18:47:44 LOL, JB - *such* the way with words! Tell me, how's that line working for you so far??? by dooplex on 2006-10-22 18:48:22 As far as I'm concerend we can't believe anything she is telling us as long as that picture is blacked out. It's obviously being kept a secret for some reason. I believe much of anything that she says right now, I am just getting that feeling that she's being coached, that there is someone behind the camera. Nothing can be trusted right, no one, not even Daniel. by UncleWally on 2006-10-22 18:52:48 Bueno, Bree te ves preciosa (sobre todo tus ojos) y me gusta la historia, hace poco que me enteré de está historia por casualidad... te veo desde San Salvador, El Salvador. by Fabricio Hérnandez on 2006-10-22 18:55:33 this is freaking cool by theplotthickens on 2006-10-22 18:58:39 I certainly hope that the ceremony isn't supposed to be on the Winter Solstice, December 21/22, but, on the other hand, that would give some time to really develop teh characters and story. by otter on 2006-10-22 19:01:16 I wonder if Daniel is really safe with Bree trying to "figure" things out. LOL. Who knows, maybe this will lead the cult directly to Daniel. by Jim on 2006-10-22 19:06:36 Bree is a moron. by Penny on 2006-10-22 19:06:41 Yay, Bree finally woke up and realized that there was something fishy! by aaadrienne on 2006-10-22 19:08:26 This is fucking garbage. The plot used to be kinda nice and seemed to go somewhere but now it just sucks. by w on 2006-10-22 19:08:30 Maybe the ceremony wasn't actually fake, but just wasn't THE ceremony Bree is preparing for -- perhaps it was a low key event tied into the birthday, and they used it to fake out Daniel. by Spiletta42 on 2006-10-22 19:10:43 Bree had said that when she was in England, her ONLY friend was a dog! Gemma holds up a picture of that dog, to show Bree. So, Bree and Gemma's dog were friends but Bree didn't feel Gemma was a friend -- but Gemma remembers her fondly. Hmmm either this is a discontinuity or there's something odd about Gemma's presence in Bree's life. by stargazer on 2006-10-22 19:10:53 but then what about that cookie episode with the 10 the 12 and the 06 by donia on 2006-10-22 19:11:28 Goodness i hope they dont try and hipe up another ceremony for halloween... that is beyond cheezy - and not in a good way. Now onto the video, its been a while since bree actually has been herself in a video and honestly i think this is one of them. I agree with daniel completley to be honest - you dont know enough.. dont do it. Besides you have your entire life to be in the ceremony if you are a likely canidate now, who's to say you wont be in the future? Do you really need all of these worries and eccess stress? Not cool that you lied to daniel, he is freakin out now bc weirdo peeps have his pics on their comps. *sighs* but at the same time i wouldnt blame him if he was still hesitant to meet up with you again.. you did lie once. This one has got me slightly intrigued again :) Have a good night all! by Jessica on 2006-10-22 19:13:22 hah i knew it i predidicted this was a fake ceremony yes!...somthing fishy is going on all i gotta say is watch your back..and if you dont know whats going on and why they took pictures ect then id say quit now this is retarted there gonna eat you alive by Jessica on 2006-10-22 19:20:00 Re: #57 I'm sure everyone's on pins and needles awaiting your thoughts, eustacia_vye. I know I am. by Margaret on 2006-10-22 19:22:09 UncleWally (#96) - I think everyone agreed in a different discussion that the picture was not actually blacked out, it is just being blocked by the lid of an open box. The open box could be a sign of some kind too, though. by heidi on 2006-10-22 19:23:02 Bree mentioned that "I gyess that trust is pretty important in these ceremonies" __ fortunately she is questioning whether they can be trusted. I hope she connects the dots! Let's see ___ a few of teh tings that we know they have done, that show they are not to be trusted: 1) told her to lie to Daniel 2) told her that Daniel's friendship isn't real, but it's okay to have "imaginary friends" 3) require her to meet strict criteria, like the diet and the shots, but won't tell her what the shots are putting into her body 4) supposedly won't tell her when the ceremony actually is 5) supposedly won't tell her parents what the ceremony is Time for a change, Bree. by Zach on 2006-10-22 19:25:26 Double crossing creep! Daniel, and internet fans, at this point it is pretty clear we can't trust a thing Bree is telling us. She doesn't even know what she is getting into if we can even believe that. Daniel, I would avoid her like the plague otherwise you are walking into a "trail of traps". by The Silent One on 2006-10-22 19:27:44 otter- i recall somebody saying that this series was scheduled to END in december. that would be some pretty convenient timing for the ceremony to occur, don't you think? by rhemasan on 2006-10-22 19:30:54 the prophecy of cassie is true!! BREE TELLS LIES! by 707clique on 2006-10-22 19:33:56 Daniel! I still dont think you can trust Bree. I really feel like you are still being set up. Man, dont meet with her in person. What ever you do, dont let Bree know where you are. She will tell the elders. And, if by chance I am wrong, then Bree--I dont think you can trust your parents. I think your mom especially is way into this stuff and if she suspects you of backing out, they may move you somewhere. by Tracy on 2006-10-22 19:36:19 Ah, good point rhemasan... Since Solstice is a high holiday in many magickal systems, that would be a "good" time to wrap up the series with a bang (hopefully not literally!). by otter on 2006-10-22 19:39:30 Ahhhhhh I want to know what's going to happen!!! *gaspweeze* by Yesh on 2006-10-22 19:39:50 Bree tells lies by BlurUK13 on 2006-10-22 19:46:18 Alright. So I've been watching this from the very beginning. Following everything. I don't have anything brilliant to say, but I do have some questions. Gemma. If her and Bree were friends in the "community" they used to live in, how long has she been in London? By the way she talks it doesn't sound like she's been there long enough to have an accent...and I'm pretty sure that accent didn't come from New Zealand, although I could be wrong. If she is part of this, the creators didn't really think that part through. Cassie. Is it possible for her to just be a "spoiler" vlog? "Bree Tells Lies". Coincidence? Was she made by the creators too, or is she just a fan? I know that nobody really knows...I just wish someone had the answers! I don't want to waste my time watching her if she's a spoiler and/or a fan just making up random crazy videos. by TigersBaseball on 2006-10-22 19:52:09 IM SO HOOKED ON THIS! by voyboy on 2006-10-22 19:57:43 wow is bree in like scientology or something? by Joni on 2006-10-22 19:59:11 I told you guys that it goes beyond Bree and Daniel in the last video. Well, now that we know this ceremony is a set up, it's clear that Purple Monkey was in on it ever since the cookie episode. THAT'S why Purple monkey is in DANGER! He too far into this not to be! by Jim on 2006-10-22 20:13:09 major plot twist! now bree's in more danger with this. save her, daniel, save her! by Lureman on 2006-10-22 20:15:20 Bottom line is a religion, cult or whatever that advises their followers to lie and set up others can't be good. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-10-22 20:20:42 Yeah, it bugs me that Bree is saying that she has been dishonest for this long. I guess I like the theory that Bree herself thought that the ceremony would be on the 12th for a while (for no other reason than that it vindicates P. Monkey! Run, P. Monkey, Run!!!), and maybe the elders decided to put off the ceremony for a couple weeks to deal with 'that meddling kid,' Daniel. But I also agree, it has a little the feel of writers pulling something out of their butts... by cyberpilot888 on 2006-10-22 20:20:52 okay so i may be wrong but, didn't BREE name daniel "danielbeast"? by zoe on 2006-10-22 20:24:24 Unless maybe p.monkey is innocent and didn't know, just like Bree didn't know.... But who knows #126. But I still think pmonkey should hide with thor somewhere until they are safe! Yes, Run P. Monkey! Run!!! by Jim on 2006-10-22 20:25:25 It's funny Joni that you mentioned Scientology since they are infamous for using "Fair Game" to target decenting members. by spiff5000 on 2006-10-22 20:25:44 Don't lie to Daniel! by mark on 2006-10-22 20:33:52 Bree tells lies what? by Liz on 2006-10-22 20:37:06 Okay, someone mentioned that Bree was wearing the striped shirt again. The other video she wore it in was the "Should I, or Shouldn't I?" video, where she is talking about going to the party with Daniel. In the video she talks about her mom siding with her most of the time, but this one time she doesn't. She also talks about preparing for the ceremony and lists everything she has been doing. Does the fact she has the same shirt on mean anything??? by zoe on 2006-10-22 20:40:04 I looked back at "The Ceremony." In it, Daniel is wearing a white necklace that seems pretty obvious over his black sweatshirt. In the pictures of him in "Following the Helper," I can't see this necklace. Not to mention that it was getting pretty dark during these videos and the pictures seem well lit. My theory: Maybe "Following the Helper" really was supposed to be shot on 10/12, and it wasn't just a filming flub-up. Maybe Daniel and Lucy are working together. Maybe the talk Daniel and Bree's Dad had was something that none of us expected. Maybe Bree's Dad convinced him into this whole thing. Daniel's in on it. They're working to get Bree to question everything. They're trying to teach her to be an individual. She needs to stand up for herself and speak out, against her parents, against the Elders, against the ceremony -- everything. According to Gemma, Bree's mother would never have put up with not knowing what was going to happen to her and submit her individuality like this. It would be expected that Bree should follow in her footsteps, stand up and yell at the professor. The shots? Nothing. Probably vitamins or saline. It's probably all in her head that she doesn't feel well afterwards. Remember Daniel talking about that first camp video? It was about the Pilgrims coming to a new world to practice their religion freely. Her religion teaches her that when you don't agree with something, it's time to start anew. Bree would not be expected to follow blindly into something she did not understand. She should question everything, stand up for herself and make a decision regarding her own beliefs. And why? Perhaps they are grooming her to be an elder, or maybe just trying to push her out of the nest in an effort to teach her to fly. But she has a long way to come from naive teenager to strong adult. Well, that's all I have to say for now. I need to think some more about what has just been revealed! *stepping down off soapbox* by Alissa on 2006-10-22 20:46:43 It's amazing how much text these 3 minute videos have generated if you take all the comments plus all the forum posts and put them together they would rival "War and Peace", of course the content would be more like a million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years. by robtomorrow on 2006-10-22 20:51:23 Insider information: Daniel disappears... ceremony goes on as planned... Bree forced to sacrifice Daniel at the ceremony. by Dave on 2006-10-22 20:54:31 so she lies to daniel then posts it on the internet so he can see it and probably those freaking cult people or whatever and now she's gonna get herself in all kinds of trouble. hmmm..:/ by Nik on 2006-10-22 20:59:02 Just so you all know here's how it all turns out: Daniel disappears. Bree continues preparations for the ceremony. Bree is forced into performing a sacrifice at the ceremony and it is a kidnapped Daniel that she must sacrifice. by Jackson on 2006-10-22 21:01:36 yes yes bree and daniel go destroy the ceremony forever. by erlack on 2006-10-22 21:18:00 Are those Daniel's clothes on the floor? They are blue, aren't those his? by Jim on 2006-10-22 21:18:27 Well that was totally implausible and messy. Now I know they're making up this crap as they go along. by Mr disco on 2006-10-22 21:19:29 Okay so this super secret group, who go to great lengths to protect they're privacy, and who Daniel should be careful of, planned to lure Daniel to a fake ceremony in the middle of the night and she has no idea that something bad might happen? At least she doesn't say "so..." at the beginning in this one. by Hmmmm on 2006-10-22 21:20:37 Hey you're a horrible actor and I seriously am amazed how the editors of this have managed to eff it up so bad. Sci-Fi shizzle aint coo by Big E-Z on 2006-10-22 21:24:55 I KNEW IT!!!! I SAID IT A COUPLE OF VIDEOS AGO, BUT NOBODY LISTENED YES BREE IS STARTING TO SEE THE LIGHT. GOOD WILL TRIUMPH! by Inigo on 2006-10-22 21:36:35 Can somebody please tell me if Gemma is an official character? Everything points towards it, except the fact that Bree hasnt mentioned her in her videos. I'm hoping she is an official character because that would give the story a third and very interesting perspective. Gemma you are smart to leave that cult behind. It seems you are happy with your life... I hope we hear from you more often. by Inigo on 2006-10-22 21:53:52 You guys keep in mind that October 12th is Crowleymas to the Thelemic religion. It is a day of merriment and mischeif (kinda like our April Fool's Day)and not solemn, ritualistic ceremonies. P.Monkey didn't lie with the cookies and Bree didn't have this planned so early on. It seems to me, the 'cult' led Daniel to watch the beginning of a harmless Crowleymas celebration. by Moondoogle on 2006-10-22 21:54:44 Indigo, we just dont know at the moment. Here is what we do know: http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php/Gemmers19 by modelmotion on 2006-10-22 22:20:39 Anyone else notice that the picture Lucy has on her computer was of Daniel hiding behind a "grassy knoll". We though he was holding a camera but it could have been a scope for a gun. Maybe Daniel shot JFK and decided the only way to remain hidden was to have frequent cosmetic surgeory so that he always looks 15. This way no one would ever suspect him of the assasination. Doesn't explain the big nose. Only it turns out Bree, her parents, Lucy, and all the cult members are actully conspiracy nuts (which could be considered a cult) and they have finally tracked down Daniel aka the guy in the grassy knoll who shot Kennedy. This is why Daniel is so scared, after 43 years he might finally be caught. The real ceremony is on November 22nd, the anniversary of the JFK assasination. It's all so clear to me now. Insomnia, need to get some sleep. by Joe on 2006-10-22 22:46:41 this is a lesson in patience....grrrrrrrrrrrr by Fancy Lykke on 2006-10-22 22:49:18 So the first things that occur to me, watching this one, is that a) the creators are trying to make a new kind of interactive storyline, which we already know, and if that's the case and one of us got a little too close to the plot as they'd established it, they may well have changed what they had in mind in order to keep us all guessing (which would partially explain why P. Monkey had the predetermined date, etc.), and b) that in the storyline, if they knew Daniel was following, which is implied by the photos on L's computer, maybe they -were- planning to use 10/12 as a way to take care of Daniel by distracting him while Bree cuts him off, leaving her free to go about the real ceremony unfettered and unfollowed. Scare him good and get him to lie low so that they could take Bree to whatever it is they're going to do with her. (And wow can I write a long run-on sentence when prompted, obviously. Sheesh.) Isn't this her 16th birthday upcoming? Does that have any sort of significance in the crowleyverse? by eliza on 2006-10-22 23:00:12 The numbers Purple Monkey hold up are 10, 12, 06. This is clearly a date but a coded date. Let's take the date 10-12-2006 (we must use a 4 digit year now to avoid the Y2K error) In Bree's videos she sometimes talks about ancient civilizations. Some ancient civilizations didn't have the number 0. If we remove the 0's we now have 11226 If we then turn it into a date it is 11-22-06 November 22 2006 The anniversary of the JFK assasination. OMFG! by Joe on 2006-10-22 23:20:52 How do you know that the 26th is Bree’s birthday? by Tim on 2006-10-22 23:30:29 its a cult.....a bad one their out to get daniel and destroy the world, lol, j/k. but the hoods and robes and followin ol danny around is kinda creepy. ok it is creepy!!!! by Gandowski on 2006-10-23 00:02:24 october 31 is halloween ... need i say more ? by goose on 2006-10-23 00:21:09 zzzzzzzzzzzz *rolls over* zzzzzzzzzzzzz by chloe on 2006-10-23 00:40:32 WTF??!! Anyone remember the shower scene episode from the TV programme Dallas? After watching this video I had the same sort "you gotta be shittin me, right?" type of feeling. I certainly hope the creators are going somewhere with this because at the moment this supposed twist is just lameass. They seem to have forgotten the irony that exists in creating a believeable fantasy world - the audience must be able to perceive it as a reality. If they truly were developing an interactive project where the forums helped direct the storylines, they could have closed their eyes, pointed at any random screen for an idea and still come up with something better than this. by finnmaccool on 2006-10-23 00:42:40 All I know for sure is that the loose ends are multiplying and if they don't start tying some of them up we are going to have a tangled mess on our hands. by robtomorrow on 2006-10-23 01:01:01 First! Lol by Tom on 2006-10-23 01:21:34 The plot thickens like coagulated blood by thgiR on 2006-10-23 01:33:39 I know this is all acting, but it sort of ruins the believability quotient when they put all this on the internet. It's like, "yeah, I lied...shhh...don't tell anyone," yet anyone can see it. D'oh! by Erica on 2006-10-23 01:40:45 poor Daniel...(( by Marianna on 2006-10-23 02:02:55 I never comment, but I just had to say something this time. Daniels name is Danielbeast as is Aliesters, Bree asked him what ever happened to Cassie? She was an outcast as was Cassie. He was the only one to befriend her. Daniel had a secretive conference with her dad. Isnt it possible that Daniel is setting her up and all the stuff with Daniel is just a ruse to have her rush to his side and do what ever he wants her to??? And...then...some other girl is saying what ever happened to Bree. by curiouslycurious on 2006-10-23 02:03:14 If bree's parents are not allowed to attend, they may be in the dark and really think the ceremony happened. Therefore they would not suspect the cult if Bree disappeared. And if there is footage of the cult being after Daniel then they would not suspect him either, especially since to their knowledge he was trying to keep her away from her religion. Hmmmm food for thought!! by curiouslycurious on 2006-10-23 02:18:33 If Gemma is a new character in this story she seems to be suggesting that Bree's mom WAS a well respected member of the community, I would suggest that was until she me Bree's Dad. I think she is trying to tell Bree that her Dad is the one she needs to be wary of. Bree's Dad is a prominent member of the "Religion" Bree's mom odviously does not go along with him all the time, and I repeat Daniel had a secretive conference with the Dad. I'm thinking Daddy's not such a nice guy. by curiouslycurious on 2006-10-23 02:27:40 Yay! I knew she would defend Daniel if anything wacky went on. Now I have to look back over her post ceremony video. This is a great plot development (Admittedly, I've been very let down by everything that's gone on since this ceremony) by the procrastinator on 2006-10-23 02:57:56 no.113 Rhemasan, said that the series was supposed to end in December. In England we set out our dates a little differently; 10.12.06 instead of 12.10.06 Could the real ceremony be then? Especially if the series is supposed to end in December as hinted at by Rhemasan? by Georgia on 2006-10-23 03:20:55 My guess is Bree is lying in this vid also. She has already been bait for Daniel once; now she is doing it again. I just can't figure out why the cult wants Daniel. Without checking myself, isn't this the first time that Bree has refered to "the ceremony" as a "ritual?" by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed on 2006-10-23 03:37:49 This does put Bree saying that her friendship with Daniel was finished (“Daniel Crossed The Line†starts with "Okay, so... I didn't wantto have to do this"), in a different light. She was cutting off her ties to him before because she didn't want him to be in danger. That didn't work so she's meeting with him now. Next video should be of them on the road -- they have run away together and are both getting chased by the cult. by stargazer on 2006-10-23 03:49:10 I was wrong. She does call it "an initiation ritual" in a previous vid. In the same vid, she explains how she has to be willing to make "sacrifices." Well, after they kill Daniel, thank goodness there are still a few weeks left in the football season. :) by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed on 2006-10-23 03:50:19 http://qfresco.spaces.live.com/ :) by FRESCO on 2006-10-23 03:59:01 dude, she didn't cry! and here I thought she was a good actress. I tease. at least he called her. I'm surprised her parents let her answer the phone. I thought she was supposed to be under lock and key. surely they wouldn't have let her talk to him, if they had answered....... by Sarah on 2006-10-23 04:07:02 wow! as fake as this is, i hope "daniel" is ok! this is addicting! ~Kayla by Kayla on 2006-10-23 04:07:57 I love these videos. They are quite clever and addictive. Please keep making more!! by Lillygirl15 on 2006-10-23 04:28:40 HeWhoMustNotBeNamed: No. Bree refers to the ceremony as possibly being some sort of "initiation ritual" in vlog #49 "The Ceremony is Tomorrow". I just watched that one again. Y'know, if what Bree just said in this last vlog is true, then she did a *much* better job at lying about it the day before the ceremony, compared with her efforts the day after. The milk & cookies thing was weird, especially if you accept that there was no actual ceremony. Much confusion. by dooplex on 2006-10-23 04:30:50 Georgia (in the UK): you make an interesting point. We do the same in New Zealand. Considering Bree has spent time in both of these places, perhaps that's what she meant? OK team, is there anything special about December 10th? by dooplex on 2006-10-23 04:37:51 dooplex, you are correct. I am also correct. No matter what happens here, Maat-Heru Ast proclaims that there will be football. by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed on 2006-10-23 04:38:32 I agree with finnmaccool (154). This was the absolutely worst development the creators could have given us!!! Hopefully eliza (148) is right and this wasn't planned from the beginning. Otherwise, things don't make as much sense as they could. Hopefully the next video will make me eat my words and the creators will more than redeem themselves. :) Also, Tigersbaseball (119): It could be that although Gemma and Bree were never close in the community, whatever happened to Gemma that made her leave hurt her enough to reach out to someone she only kinda knows to save that person from the same pain. That's what survivors due, they try to recreate the same situation but have the outcome change to something positive in order to gain closer. Maybe she's reliving it through Bree. by physphile on 2006-10-23 04:43:41 Q: What is the most important trait a person can posess? A: Loyalty. Q: Has Bree been disloyal to her friend? A: She betrayed Daniel. Q: Did he agree to meet up with her again? A: There's always football. by HeWhoMustNotBeNamed on 2006-10-23 04:45:46 too bad she is brain washed by some cult...maybe now she will break into a new worldview perspective and glance at what she grew up with...what for...what is the purpose of following these beliefs...other than brain-washed tradition...it is just idolatry...nothing good can come of this...good luck daniel. It appears that you are not big on religion, but I happen to be, in fact those are my majors. Daniel, she is only 16, and still has many things to learn, good luck man...its hard showing people the world when they've been enclosed in a single conception of life within itself. by whatsthetruth on 2006-10-23 04:52:56 FIRST??????!!!!!!!!!!! FIRST??????!!!!!!!!!!! FIRST??????!!!!!!!!!!! FIRST??????!!!!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG I AM FIRST!!!! WHOOOOOO! Ohhhhh, first to post the 173rd spot oooooh yeah. I AM SO PIMP. BTW.....I don't think anyone was fooled by the ceremony because it didn't fit the time frame we all predicted and she still had that large piece of gauze on her arm that made us all wonder. I'm just ashamed with Bree, getting on with the whole woe-is-me-I'm- too-weak-to-post BS. She took the lie to a new level. Maybe theres a lot about Bree she lied to us about. Maybe the Crowley pick is just to "throw Danny-boy off her scent". by firstcallingdumbass on 2006-10-23 05:17:22 I think Daniel is dead. Bree is using fake concern to cover up the fact that she knows he's dead. by Tom on 2006-10-23 05:23:26 If it was a fake ceremony, why would she put so much time into things like...the cookie video where she gives us the clue of the date. Why would she clue the date of a fake ceremony? Was that for DANIEL's benefit or what? by Ninja Sif on 2006-10-23 05:25:54 So what's one to do if they're just not that into football? Ahhh, yes. Beer. by dooplex on 2006-10-23 05:26:50 Ninja Sif (about 173): The only possibilities my sleep-deprived brain can compose are: She genuinely thought that the ceremony was to be on Sep 12, but the Elders knew better and misled her. This would mean they've had their eye on Daniel for quite some time (Daniel alludes to this in his last vlog). Both Bree and the Elders genuinely planned for the ceremony to be on Sep 12, but rainchecked it when Daniel's actions threatened its success. Providing Daniel with a fake ceremony then throws him off the scent of the real one. However, Bree's latest talk with Daniel has put an end to that. Bree had no knowledge of the Cookie Contest Code; it was simply a device of the Creators and Bree was merely the messenger. Bree has been lying right from the start - dirty wench! Bree is in fact Crowley Reincarnate, Omnipresent and Omnipotent, and who the f*** are we to question her ways? Ermm... Print this and throw a dart. by dooplex on 2006-10-23 05:43:55 sooo i just been on yousef's myspace and watched him and jessica rocking at tom greens party....and the girl who plays gemmers was there so she is defo involved and not a fake :) by sarahboo on 2006-10-23 05:46:11 sweet this manuscript writes itself interactive? :P thees comments will get the crew on to whats going to happend next=) by Maitreya on 2006-10-23 05:58:01 #176 or Gemmers is a real friend of Jessica's who she took along for the ride, and now Gemmers is trying to get rich & famous off the back of her friend and is actually nothing to do with it? by Katee in UK on 2006-10-23 05:58:26 oooh i never thought of that, but we will have to see, i doubt they would still be friends if she did that, the creators wouldnt like it unless she is employed by them...i like the whole new gemmers19 character coming into it, aybe daniel can talk to gemma over the vlogs, maybe he would get an interesting insight into bree's life. by sarahboo on 2006-10-23 06:03:28 Bree, you are speaking secrets that are not yours to give up. Stop now. by Flaurius on 2006-10-23 06:22:25 "They are contineuing fo make me pair." wtf doese that mean? by Zoey on 2006-10-23 06:51:36 Zoey: "They're making me continue to prepare and ... to get these shots and ... Lucy comes over and we walk through the rituals every day"... Sounds like the Elders want their ceremony at *some* point, then :-) by dooplex on 2006-10-23 07:03:32 Bree, This is a time to prioritize as you will tend to take on too much. You are spreading yourself thin and despite the need to meet deadlines, you will be better off if you discuss your priorities with those that matter. They will appreciate your honesty. by trash180 on 2006-10-23 07:46:44 oooooKAYY... Totally didn't see THAT coming! by The Original Em on 2006-10-23 08:05:06 The Kennedy theory is very amusing. Wait. Was it Crowley on the grassy knoll? by Spiletta42 on 2006-10-23 08:18:38 tramadol side effects tramadol side effects by tramadol side effects on 2006-10-23 08:24:04 Guys, guys, guys. I was into your videos when they first came out, but no longer. Mainly, I am of the belief that you had a legitimately interesting concept, but you've unfortunately squandered it. When your videos hit the national spotlight, your window of opportunity opened. Unfortunately, with the drab writing as of late, sub-par posts (in terms of production value), and meaningless episodes that minimally progress the storyline, your window of opportunity is QUICKLY closing. I suggest you re-vamp your production formula before you lose all your viewers. Sorry for the harsh words, but someone had to do it. by Tony on 2006-10-23 08:30:48 I still agree with whoever made the Dallas "It was all a dream" reference. It doesn't feel like we were led here, it feels like they changed their minds after reading the comments or they're just pulling stuff out of their bums. Besides, it doesn't mesh with Bree's character and STILL it's not been addressed as to why this cult would mobilize many people to go out into the woods in the middle of the night to fake a ceremony for one big-nosed kid. I need some evidence of why on earth Daniel is worth that much trouble. There has to be something earth-shatteringly special about him. If it was to keep him from prying into their secrets, there's got to be a more economical/ less troublesome method that having a bunch of people attend a fake ceremony. by Lizard on 2006-10-23 08:42:53 Well...that was unexpected. And quite interesting. Hmm.... by rebelgoddess on 2006-10-23 09:04:31 I feel this series is becoming too serious> It use to be fun and innocent but now it's turn into something else. Don't get me wrong I enjoy lonelygirl very much. However I think they need to start having a little more light-hearted plots instead of having it full force every new episode. by Laura on 2006-10-23 09:11:07 I'm such an idiot - I just worked out Gemmers is girl 2 from the job ads. God that took me about a day to realise. I agree with Laura above - I lament for the days of Proving Science Wrong and how innocent we all were. Now we're changed for the worse, and we can never go back to how we were. Sob. by Katee in UK on 2006-10-23 09:40:27 ooo i love it! it's getting all dramatic now! raaa! but i do miss the prooooving science wrong... :( that used to give me jokes! x by Tiffany on 2006-10-23 09:46:16 #195 Lizard Isn't it obvious why they would go to so much trouble? The ceremony must be kept a secret from any outsider because its potentially ilegal content (whatever it is) would bring down the sect. by Inigo on 2006-10-23 09:47:51 Wow, question... Was the fact that lonelygirl15, bree, wasnt a 15y/o but instead an actress simply foreshadowing for bree lying to daniel. And what a twist wasnt expecting that by pp48n on 2006-10-23 09:51:23 OMG! Bree does tell lies! Maybe, then, the REAL ceremony will be on Hallowe'en/Samhian. This is the closest date with any Occult significance. by lidskidder on 2006-10-23 09:51:40 The above comment should read "Samhain", not "Samhian"! by lidskidder on 2006-10-23 09:53:02 I think that last week's ceremony was originally intended to be real, but the outcry of dissappointment caused the creators to attempt a "do-over" by calling it fake. Kudos for finding a clever way of fixing things. by Luckydog1826 on 2006-10-23 09:55:07 I'll repeat nyself...(nobody reads my post anyway)... October 12th is an important date to the Thelemites. It isn't a day of ceremonies, it is a day of revelry. I thought it was a little odd that they'd be doing a ceremony on the 12th anyway as 'Crowleymas' is reserved for good times and covered dishes. It's also a day to play pranks and cause mischief... by Moondoogle on 2006-10-23 10:03:50 Margaret (109), Here's my email address: oberlee4@yahoo.com. Could you just write me an email telling me how MUCH I suck and how MUCH you hate me, etc., so we don't have to waste other people's time on this msg board that is about something we all LIKE? It's my real email--I'll even reply to confirm. K? Now, moving on...I haven't read all comments (at work) but I think I agree iwth the "they've had their eyes on Daniel for a long time" theory of dooplex's (183 or thereabouts). I think they maybe just invited her into this "ceremony" to get a hold of him. I don't think their IS a ceremony that they EVER intended to include her in. Save Daniel, Bree! Otherwise, I'll be getting drunk with dooplex while hewhomustnotbenamed enjoys his football. by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-23 10:09:00 so now we know WHY cassie was saying that bree lies...interesting since cassie has nothing to do with the creators of LG...so how did "cassie" know that bree was lying... by alliecat on 2006-10-23 10:11:46 ps. I like the 10/12 being 12/10 thing... of course, I never know what's a red herring or an actual clue in this series. I want more Gemma. As Bree and Daniel get darker, which is cool, she lends some smiles and warmth to all this. by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-23 10:17:10 Dont trust her Daniel!! At least not yet! Its gonna come down to a choice for Bree - Daniel or the cult, she cant have both. And so far Daniel seems to care more for her than the cult. Be smart Bree. Ditch the cult, be with Daniel. He'll never be able to trust you otherwise. by Richard David on 2006-10-23 10:19:04 This site needs a favicon. by poe on 2006-10-23 10:54:31 get rid of daniel, he's gay anyways! by peter on 2006-10-23 11:21:21 omg its getting so scary now....at least bree and daniel are going to talk... by gracitodorito on 2006-10-23 11:34:46 c'mon daniel whats going on guys???? xoxo by ANG N KAIT on 2006-10-23 11:35:56 So I'm thinking you should bring Gemma into this whole thing. At the least Bree should say hello to her. Gemma got out of "the community" and moved off on her own. Good role model for Bree. by Joshua Cole on 2006-10-23 11:36:21 so. i know this is fake. but i have become completely addicted to this. the plot keeps getting better and better. GREAT JOB! by Kaitlyn on 2006-10-23 11:37:39 You aren't lying!!! This is adictive. by Christina on 2006-10-23 11:48:57 I said the ceremony looked too cheesy. I think Bree is still setting Daniel up though. If so, I find it hard to believe a girl so sheltered would be capable of such deceit and trickery. So her buttons are being pushed from other folks, and have been for some time. I think the 10/12/06 thing was a setup for us, moreso than Daniel. I like the new twists. I was really concerned the series would end after the ceremony. It was pretty obvious though that something more was up right. by Armus on 2006-10-23 12:08:19 Why was Gemmers not allowed to have Thai food when she was part of the cult? They can eat what they want, right, unless they're doing the ceremony? Unless once you've done the ceremony you then CAN'T eat what you want, forever. Hmmm curious. by Katee in UK on 2006-10-23 12:27:30 i did not see that one coming! by huge fan on 2006-10-23 12:41:53 big fake xd by FRESCO on 2006-10-23 12:48:56 After Bree had her big fight with Daniel and got caught by her parents sneaking out, she tells us she went to some gathering with her parents. She explains that her parents told the other members everything and that she now has a helper, Lucy. Perhaps Bree's fight with Daniel was more serious than we thought. He said or did something really bad that got Bree scared. Bree being too naive to realize the danger she is in gets help from her cult, Lucy. This is also the same time Daniel starts following Bree. Maybe Bree is in real danger from Daniel (abusive boyfriend) and Lucy is doing all this to get him out of her life. Daniel wanted Bree to chose between him and her religion. Abusive boyfriends often isolate their partners from their family to keep control and hide what they are doing. Let's face it stalker Daniel is only a loaded gun away from killing Bree, her parents and Lucy. Maybe this is one of those lame made for TV movies about a teenage girls fight to escape her abusive boyfriend. I like my Kennedy assasination theory better. by Joe on 2006-10-23 12:49:49 it's amazing! i think they would kill lucy! by robin on 2006-10-23 13:04:33 Re: Katee in UK I don't know where you got info on cults and thai food, but now I want some. (thai food, not cults.) by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-23 13:06:45 Ooohhh! New gemma vid. Didn't see that. (still want thai food.) by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-23 13:08:32 That was a suprise to me. I feel a little bit lied to, but excited to see how this will all turn out. I wonder what's so special about Daniel? And the Cassie stuff.. boy, that sure came to a hault. Maybe "she'll" come up with something new after this has picked up a little. I am, indeed, thorougly addicted to this series. by DontDrinkTheKoolAid on 2006-10-23 13:22:46 This is so fun to watch it is addicting, Sorry bree but you need to either go with daniel or your ricuals by Whosamyatt on 2006-10-23 13:22:55 Its sooo addicting! I by Reddie on 2006-10-23 13:25:54 She didnt just lie to daniel, she lied to all of us...!!!! :-) by Liar on 2006-10-23 13:28:55 very secretive.. i'm such an adict. by meg on 2006-10-23 13:48:10 i think the ceremony that daniel videotaped was the real thing, and lucy and everyone higher up is making her lie in order to cover themselves, and so that their secret cult thing doesn't get out to the public through daniel. i dont think bree would actually do anything that could hurt daniel, but i think their meeting later is most likely a set-up to try and get any bad thoughts about bree's cult out of daniel's head! by brittany on 2006-10-23 14:21:24 i don't think its fair to say that bree thought the ceremony would be the 12th for a while and then it was put off...this ceremony obviously has a lot to do with tradition...and if it was meant to be on crowley's birthday they would have made SURE it was done on crowleys birthday...however i think the "daniel= abusive boyfried theory" from joe...also someone mentioned the ceremony being on the winter solsitice in mid-december, very good idea, the show is supposed to end in december as i hear (idk i may be wrong) and ive also heard a movie is in the works, a murder mystery type movie, so maybe this is a sacrificial ceremony? idk we'll see by Sydney on 2006-10-23 14:56:30 i dont think that p. monkeys "10 12 06" signs were ever meant to be a real clue...i think it was MEANT to throw people off...this plot has probably been figured out for a while now, and do you honestly think with some of the elaborate clues theyve given that they would hold up 3 signs saying "10-12-06"? really, it seems like a clue that is MEANT to be figured out by Sydney on 2006-10-23 15:06:03 i may be a little late on this...but has anyone realized that tjhe name of the person who posted "whitegreenwhite" is "breeiswaiting"...wasnt there something involving cassie and frank with "frankiswaiting" "frankisworking", etc? by Sydney on 2006-10-23 15:10:13 This time Bree should tape the ceremony! Then we can really see what's going on. :D by Sam on 2006-10-23 15:20:42 If the cult members found out that Daniel was following them, the probably found out via YOUTUBE. We know that Lucy has an internet connection, thus she probably knows that Bree has been making videos. Given that, WHY WOULD BREE MAKE A VIDEO THAT CASTS DOUBT ON HER RELIGION? She must be trying to win Daniel's trust back in order for the Elder's to find out where he is. In the "Daniel, Be Careful" video she hints that these people are not the type to be messing with. Why would she post this current public video in which she is doubtful of her religion? by gnome on 2006-10-23 15:23:43 okay, I have a few things to say. First off, I know thqat this isn't real. Second, Alright, If Bree is such a "normal" and innocent little girl, why has she now lost all that? Ever since everyone found out this isn't real, she's been getting more and more like a normal teenager, and honestly, it's not as good. Thrid, Why don't you and Daniel just get out of there. I mean seriously. you're like what, 16 now? You guy obviously love eachother and jujst are too afraid to admit it. JUST EMBRACE IT Fourth, he ending to this better be really good. Thankyou !!! ^_^ by Shae Face on 2006-10-23 15:27:12 The truth will be revealed soon I'm sure, Not all that appears so is always pure. Enemies tells truths and friends tell lies, The ones closest are hard to recognize. Blood spilled and life taken, Bonds broken and love forsaken. The story of Bree will be soon be ending, But that my friends is only the beginning. by Stonecoldtruth on 2006-10-23 15:29:35 She seems suspicious taking Daniles side so suddenly like that doesn't she? by Katie on 2006-10-23 15:30:02 So.... if they found out about Daniel's Videos wouldn't they have also found Bree's? There are a lot of holes in this story. by Kris on 2006-10-23 15:37:42 what if they set her up to it...maybe the 10/12 ceremony was the real one...they made it look like she was doubting her own religion and the ceremony wasnt real so shift would to change focus back to "whens the cermony"..."what is the cermony" etc. Its a littl eout there but like you said, why would she cast public doubt on her religion?? especially when "trust is important in these cermonies" by Sydney on 2006-10-23 15:47:15 stone cold truth..."but that my friends is only the beginning" are you alluding to the movie? by Sydney on 2006-10-23 15:49:35 We don't know for sure that the cult people know about the videos. We know they know that he videotaped them, that's all. We can assume Bree DIDN'T tell them about posting them on the Internet, because, as people are saying, why would she post sensitive information if she KNEW the cult was watching? (Unless of course she's not doubting the religion at all, but luring Daniel into a trap.... uhhh, my head hurts) by SharpI on 2006-10-23 15:50:23 Sydney.. I'm alluding to the story itself, in my opinion the movie is ongoing and we are all a willing part of it. While it is not a 'movie' in your traditional view of the word, we all play roles varying from simple commenters, lurkers, gamers, down to the very participants in the plot. Do you remember those old choose your adventure books from childhood? This is the same principle but brought to a mass audience level. I wholeheartedly believe that the 'script' will change, adapt, and grow as this continues. My only hope is that people allow it to do so. To quote Allister Crowley himself, and you can interpret this how you will. "Release yourself from the passion of results." Stonecoldtruth by Stonecoldtruth on 2006-10-23 16:06:44 bree if you dont know anything yet then tell them u wont do anything unless they tell you, for all you know you could be there human sacrifice for godsakes. by charity on 2006-10-23 16:08:14 this is about the video "the equinox", i know, way back, but i thought it'd get more discussion here...the letters translated to "c"r"s"a" so i looked it up on google earth...and right around the LA area is cam eup a place called "jet propulsion laboratories" idk probably irrelevent but worht looking into...also the letters are pronounce "veh don fam un" idk but ,maybe with some wordplay it sounds similar to a phrase or something? by Sydney on 2006-10-23 16:21:45 Hey Sydney #245 - That's a good angle to probe deeper - I don't think anyone has looked into it yet. Can you remind me what "jet propulsion laboratories" has to do with the story? Can you provide the link where you got your info from? by gnome on 2006-10-23 16:27:56 if this whole thing was planned from the begining, i think the creators left some clues for us there. the begining episodes might have been just to pull poeple in, but i think not im going to check erlier videos plz help by kowthinker on 2006-10-23 16:28:27 Joe Post #54: "I think this is one of those, let’s make things up as we go along and the writers have no clue where this is going." --- I'm starting to agree kind of. It seems like in the beginning they kind of had an idea of how the story/plotline was going to turn out, or at least in which direction it was going to go in, but now it seems like they suddenly realized "whoops, let's change some things." for some reason. I guess it was the only way to get their new ideas to fit right, but the unfortunate thing is that it leaves the viewers completely lost now. All those clues were so well-hidden and nicely done, and date wayyy way back. Now she claims she's lied. I don't know. I have a big feeling they're just making it all up as they go along now, only throwing in some responses to the fans in the comments. by Jonneh on 2006-10-23 16:29:16 Is Gemma official? Pro: 1. Jacky is friends with Jessica and Yousef in real life and they don't appear to be mad at her for butting into the series. 2. Gemma's videos are interesting and relevant. Con: 1. The quality of writing for Gemma's videos seems a lot better than that of the recent official videos. 2. Gemma doesn't have a very realistic teenage girl vblogger appearance. The creators have gone out of their way to make their characters (Daniel in particular) look less like Hollywood actors and more like real kids. Gemma, however, looks like a photoshopped plastic doll with a permanent Hollywood smile. Ah well, regardless of whether she is legit, Gemma's videos have become the most entertaining part of this series as the main plot requires an ever-increasing suspension of belief. by Treefunk on 2006-10-23 16:29:30 I am thinking the ceremony must be tonight (Oct 23)...isn't tonight the new moon or something?? by Jessica on 2006-10-23 16:32:28 suspension of DISbelief, I meant. by Treefunk on 2006-10-23 16:33:30 I feel that Gemma has arrive in good timing with the series. The things between Bree and Daniel are getting darker, while Gemma has appeared to bring back what we all used to enjoy about LG15. She brings back the happy feelings Bree used to bring us. I feel her videos are a good way of balancing out what's going down. by silkyworm on 2006-10-23 16:35:32 haven't read all the posts, simply too many. so please pardon the repetition if it's been said, but... some of you find the 10 - 12 - 06 of the cookie episode unusual in light of the fact that the ceremony was faked. but in europe (and perhaps in new zealand?) the 12 would represent the month and the 10 the day. so perhaps we can expect something december 10th? just a thought... by get it at hemkop on 2006-10-23 16:41:58 Hey guys, check out this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyxb7HXrVVk by Jack the ripper on 2006-10-23 16:43:45 Jack, that was SOO not right, I almost jumped out of my skin! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-10-23 17:05:02 The blackbird refuses to eat the worm. The one with the mane is not to be trusted. by 40-24-N on 2006-10-23 17:05:04 Hey these are really good. They are like mini episodes to see about your life. Man it is like a soap opera only better. Tried to see where you and Daniel had sex but couldn't because of youtube. oh well!!! Keep up the good work lonelygirl15! by Debbie Giles on 2006-10-23 17:10:07 The blackbird refuses to eat the worm. The one with the mane is not to be trusted. by 40-24-N on 2006-10-23 17:13:58 Jack the ripper-- I think that video has some great insight! (wink, wink) by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-23 17:19:33 why is this series still going on even though it is a fake jessica rose is beeing seen at parties and at public events is this done purposly what if in the series bree dissapears and at the same time jessica is not seen in public that will scare many people by kowthinker on 2006-10-23 17:34:40 ok, i have not read the posts, so sorry if someone already said this, but you know the video where she says that the ceremony is tomorrow???? she says that they allowed her to have some milk and cookies - but since the ceremony WASNT the next day, wouldn't she still be following the diet? do you think this is a 'subtle' hint to go look at the cookie video??? hmmmmmm. by gracitodorito on 2006-10-23 17:35:23 Hey eustacia_vye! I sent you that e-mail. I look forward to hearing back from you. Again, I'm truly sorry. by Margaret on 2006-10-23 17:35:41 I hope this isn't the end of Margaret's random hatred of Eustacia_Vye; this drama was keeping me entertained! by Treefunk on 2006-10-23 17:39:35 am I the only one that thinks this ceremony could have something to do with a virgin sacrifice? when daniel was doing research that one night, he talked about hathor being the goddess of fertility and motherhood among other things. am i the only one who jumped to that conclusion? the shots could be some sort of fertility drug, or oppositely could be a depo shot to keep her from getting pregant during the ritual. i could be way off though, i have been known to have a wild imagination and drastically miscalculate plotlines. by jessforlife on 2006-10-23 17:42:06 althoughi hope this isn;t true because it would be really lame, i think it may be possible that bree is lying NOW and the cermony really was the 12th either because: 1) This is the elders wishes or 2) It's part of a plan daniel and bree have schemed ;-) i hinted at this in an earlier post...i hope its not true because then it would be very confusing and riculous, however this theory seems to answer a lot of questions by Sydney on 2006-10-23 17:51:26 Bree, discussions are intense but you really need to communicate your needs and wants. Sadly, this may not be well received - note the reactions of those around you. Whilst the situation is heated, truth is revealed. Watch for the patterns of behaviour. by trash180 on 2006-10-23 17:52:26 could gemma be warning bree about her mother/ parents physphile said: “3. The creators like to hide clues in odd places. Now, Nut was the sky goddess who gave birth to Hathor. I think that given Bree’s birthday, she is supposed to represent Hathor. That would mean that Nut represents her own mother - or more likely Bree’s parents.†i think given the new emphasis on bree’s mom and the “nut kills man†video that maybe gemma’s warning is about bree’s mother?? just a thought so this leads to a number of questions... 1) is bree's mother a vital member of the cult and/or plot? 2) is bree's mother a threat to daniel? 3) does gemma know something about this ceremony? i.e. do the parents know more than bree thinks and are required to make a sacrifice/kill or some sort? hmmm thoughts anyone by Sydney on 2006-10-23 17:56:11 ok another post...i swear ill be done soon in the bee the cookie monster vlog the 2nd cookie...it looks like it has NUTs in it...and it a recipe from scotland...idk im probably overanalyzing this but it seems weird that its a chocolate chip cookie contest and the cookie is made of nuts. Also, that is the only recipe where she tells where it came from...maybe this was their hint that we should read the date in the european style rather than american??? by Sydney on 2006-10-23 18:03:45 The pictures of Jessica and Jackie showed up weeks before the first Gemmers19 video was posted. Were we *supposed* to see those pictures, so Gemma could add background clues without taking away from the main plot line? I really like curiouslycurious' thoughts in #160. Creepy! I always thought that this was leading to a Halloween finale, but there have been some really good arguments for Dec. 10. Eustacia, can I join you for beer on the 11th? by cyberpilot888 on 2006-10-23 18:08:44 Sydney #268 I don't think you are overanalyzing it! Edinburgh, where Bree and Gemma's mom went to University and where Bree's Mom met Bree's Dad is in Scotland! by gnome on 2006-10-23 18:10:28 cyberpilot888, sure thing! by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-23 18:11:14 So I just watched a response video from "Tannhaus". Apparently he is a follower of the Thelma practices and told "Bree" that none of the stuff she's doing is what Thelma is about. He said that he's never heard of anyone taking shots, studying, or dieting before an initiation. He did agree, however, that you are not supposed to know what will take place at the ceremony until you're there. He also said that 14 year old girls are not initiated. That's too young to commit to something like that because it's a life long thing. He seems older, and he said his first initiation was 16 years ago. Could it be that the creators are grasping at straws here, and making up the ceremonial rituals as they go along? Or, perhaps they are initiating her at such a young age because A) her mother is some kind of leader in her religion, B) she is somehow related to Crowley, and this is her duty, or C) these people are not to be trusted, and she should get away while she can. I don't know. I'm trying to make some kind of sense out of all of this. I know tannhaus is just a fan, but what he had to say was somewhat interesting (and he performed a little ritual that was strange). by TigersBaseball on 2006-10-23 18:12:00 Nice catch Sydney (266)!!! by physphile on 2006-10-23 18:27:19 yo anyone know what happened to the grill video? the let me see your grill one? i cant find it what number is it on? by your mom on 2006-10-23 18:41:50 anyone know what happened to the, let me see your grill, video? what number is it on? by your mom on 2006-10-23 18:46:02 ok what if we're not looking at this "nut kills man" the right way its supposed to be like rock-paper-scissors right? well rock/paper/scissors is a game of chance in comparison of two people, yet it is also slightly analytical. You think about previous moves to help figure out your opponents next one. So here you have nut (bree's mom?) man (daniel maybe?) and squirrel (???)...so here you go...another idea to play with :-D by Sydney on 2006-10-23 18:56:23 I have not seen alot of your videos but I was wondering does daniel know who you realy are? And what state or country do you live in? by sam on 2006-10-23 18:57:09 jessica , you made my days lately...a few for sure. You grabbed the state of the art , with a lightness and humor envied by most. Just smart before the others + real obvious talents for most parameters of making : a movie,a play, and an audience__ savvy,playful,teasing with style , seducing yourlonely boys/girls at once .Glued I was , one chapter after the other.Contrary to being 'LOST with Housewives Six Feet under' , your daylies had a smooth, whispered sensuality which , at my own surprise ,turn me into a perfect willing witness of one of the most enjoyable crime ! Thanks Jessica . By now , it's rolling...we'll be there. alain/andrew vanuatu (vanuatu=57 islands middle of the Pacific) by alainK. on 2006-10-23 18:59:34 why do all the dates say october 23rd? by sam on 2006-10-23 19:01:49 squirrel...hamster any connection? And refresh my memory, if the dates p monkey held up were written euro-style, would it read december 12 2006? by scoot on 2006-10-23 19:06:56 squirrel...hamster any connection? And refresh my memory, if the dates p monkey held up were written euro-style, would it read december 10 2006? by scoot on 2006-10-23 19:07:11 sorry for the double post, I hit stop to change the date but it had already gone through. by scoot on 2006-10-23 19:08:12 UUUMMM Sorry to post yet again but did anyone else catch this?: 40-24-N Says: October 23rd, 2006 at 5:13 pm The blackbird refuses to eat the worm. The one with the mane is not to be trusted. .... by scoot on 2006-10-23 19:17:02 Hum....Blair Witch meets My So Called Life....bizzare mix, indeed..... by michael on 2006-10-23 19:23:12 This is so pathetic...I'm checking this sight like three times a day...I think I'm addicted... by elphielives on 2006-10-23 19:38:54 Hi my name is Aidan, and I am a Bree-a-holic/Lonleygirl15 Addict. by Aidan on 2006-10-23 19:52:57 this is sick! by jai on 2006-10-23 19:57:29 scoot...woah thats weird im guessing blackbird may be daniel and he refuses to give in to soem sort of bait...being lonely girl 15??? bree is im guesisng the one with the mane...either an actual poster just with an interesting way of statin ghis theories or a new canon maybe??? who knows "40-24-N"...maybe a latitude longitude thing or something?? by Sydney on 2006-10-23 19:59:16 ...as if we didn't already have enough random theories flying about - here's another! Take P.Monkey's Cookie Contest scorecards, and put all the digits together. 101206 Now comes the tricky part. Turn your computer screen upside down. I'll also accept standing on your head as a valid option and lifestyle choice. Squint a bit, and read the numbers... 902101 Beverly Hill Zip Code! (OK, with a 1 on the end) This has *gotta* mean something! by dooplex on 2006-10-23 20:04:17 Cassie Was Nvr A Big Deal To The Story, Who Said She Ever Was? They Talked About Her In one Episode about being Bree's First Friend by ***PlaY!! on 2006-10-23 20:04:41 Actually, it was two episodes, but yeah... by Moondoogle on 2006-10-23 20:06:23 i love this series but i cant help but hope that the focus is shifted from religion onto something we can all relate to. by alison on 2006-10-23 20:15:42 she lied to me? im hurt, out raged, sacrafice the virgin, sacrifice by evsadoodles on 2006-10-23 20:18:59 so taking pictures of daniel for no reason is freaking you out, but that fact youre getting shots for something you dont know a lot about isnt? hmmm? youre a weirdo by wes on 2006-10-23 20:31:57 this shits fucking gay whoever watches this chick is GAY ok... and lonely girl your a fucking HAG watch my fucking vid u faggs :) by Tyson on 2006-10-23 20:42:50 WATCH MY VID THIS ONES GAY by Tyson on 2006-10-23 20:43:14 NEED....NEW... VIDEO.... AND WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PAL FRANK & RICK?! I HAVENT SEEM THEM ON HERE!!! by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-23 20:46:30 what the hell are u a computer i heard there is saum scandal by Max on 2006-10-23 20:55:39 dooplex, I think you're on to something with the 90210 angle. Zip codes in the US also have a 4 digit number at the end for larger cities. Maybe it's 90210-0001. Unfortunately I have to go to the hospital now. I sprained my neck while standing on my head. It really hurts. by Joe on 2006-10-23 21:02:36 your mom - re 275- I haven't seen it here.. it's #3 in Youtube. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-10-23 21:09:03 Maybe some cookies with P-Monkey & Owen will make you feed better? MORE P-MONKEY DANG IT! by Richard on 2006-10-23 21:24:51 you aren't the only one addicted, 285, lol by sundrive on 2006-10-23 21:26:21 All U.S. cities have a ZIP+4 code. by Jacie on 2006-10-23 21:31:18 "#195 Lizard Isn’t it obvious why they would go to so much trouble? The ceremony must be kept a secret from any outsider because its potentially ilegal content (whatever it is) would bring down the sect." Sorry, Inigo, I don't think it's all that obvious. It's too elaborate. The cleverest plans are the simple ones. Besides which, I learned in my very first fiction workshop that if your reader has to work that hard to fill the gaps in your logic, you haven't done your job as a writer. The same goes here. They better fill in gaps or they'll reveal that they have just gotten themselves hopelessly muddled. I'm not saying I hate it now or anything. I'm just disappointed. There had to be a better way to get to this plot point. But I'll reserve final judgment until I see if they explain why Daniel would have any significance to them at all. by Lizard on 2006-10-23 21:35:24 k folks, I'm seriously tired.. but Joe.. that was great, thanks for the giggles! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-10-23 21:35:37 pssst... Illuminati... shhhhh... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati by trainer101 on 2006-10-23 21:57:38 grillz video http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php/Grillz_feat._Danielbeast%2C_LG15%2C_P._Monkey%2C_and_O%27n. by modelmotion on 2006-10-23 22:09:51 LOL. I just stumbled upon this. She does look pretty HOT. I must admit :) http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=AENLNQG&key=AEQ by Jim on 2006-10-23 22:21:04 please !!! daniel - save bree , i think she will get hurt if you dont do anything soon ! by robin on 2006-10-23 22:23:58 she has a 9.1, and that's hard to get on that site! by Jim on 2006-10-23 22:24:03 FAKE CEREMONY? although its cheap its cool that that wasn't it. it was such a non-climax. PLEASE THROW SOME MONEY AND EFFECTS AT A COOL CEREMONY! I know their our fans in Hollywood. It would be extremely shocking and cool to have some digital effects added to daniels hand held videos... GO ALL THE WAY MAKE A DEMON APPEAR OR SOMETHING. by cdogg on 2006-10-23 22:48:23 I have to agree that this is a lot of fun. Having what we believe turned upside-down and flipped like a pancake periodically is always good for the soul! I imagine Bree running off with Daniel and the two of them fleeing the cult together.. I also imagine that she is only meeting him so that the cult can FIND him.. She apologized, but she is setting him up again. She looks sweet and innocent, but this could happen. Remember that when people are involved in cults, their loyalty and dedication lies with that group first. Bree was raised in this fictional cult and she is ensnared. I'm not sure whether she can be her own girl. Is Bree's dad a dr? I wonder because he met her mother when he was in medical school, remember? Surely whatever she is being injected with is safe? Speculation is much more fun than knowing for sure. That's why predators love the chase more than catching the actual prey. Our brains are wired that way. Nut kills man is likely to happen soon...but not until we are exhausted with the merry chase. Was the ceremony fake or real? Hmmm.. If Daniel thinks it was fake, well, won't he be MORE worried about her now? Hmm.. Very fun! by Laura on 2006-10-23 22:51:33 again, I found Bree on hot or not. I don't know how long it will last before it's gone. amazing she got a 9.1 http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=AENLNQG&key=AEQ by Jim on 2006-10-23 23:09:37 then again, I'm not surprised. by Jim on 2006-10-23 23:10:08 Well, this is ironic, but I just checked it again, and it appears to be gone. Unless it's my browser acting up. deleted? Oh well, LOL. by Jim on 2006-10-23 23:56:39 LOL. It's LG on hot or not.. hehe. Thanks Jim #312. by the way it's still up. If you check the keywords it lists purple monkey, thor, enochian It's hysterical! by sundrive on 2006-10-24 02:23:17 OK, we're over 300 comments now. Time for a new vid, pretty please? by dooplex on 2006-10-24 02:39:33 Jim (about 312-313) Nice backpedalling! LOL by dooplex on 2006-10-24 02:41:49 Haha dooplex. That was quite some pedling I did huh? The old foot in the mouth! Seriously it came out wrong. But that site is so harsh that on ratings, it usually takes a nearly naked, anerexic girl in a bikini to get a 9+ score. 9 on a face shot is hard to do there.... Again, I am chuckling at myself for that. by Jim on 2006-10-24 02:49:31 I agree we need a new vid. I hope it's today. by Jim on 2006-10-24 02:50:27 sure thing sun ;) by Jim on 2006-10-24 02:53:57 You are fantastic,this is a model???.i'm italian,please,send one email at my!!! : ggiaky@gmail.com by Giacomo on 2006-10-24 04:47:24 Laura #311 you wrote "I imagine Bree running off with Daniel and the two of them fleeing the cult together." Gee, that sounds like my post #166 "Next video should be of them on the road — they have run away together and are both getting chased by the cult." I think Daniel and Bree running from the cult together is the next obvious plot move, but it's probably too obvious. The creators probably have another twist up their sleeves. by stargazer on 2006-10-24 05:03:04 Yep, now really thinking it's meaning the 10th December. Liked the idea about the cookies being from Scotland to give a clue about the date (so can't remember who said it sorry) Also, Yousef filled out a quizzy thing in a bulletin entry on myspace and put a date he was looking forward to was, 30th november, but that he would also be sad when this date cam around. Could that signal end of filming for lonelygirl15 or the end of the series or, am I grasping at straws!!? by Georgia on 2006-10-24 05:16:35 yea georgie 322. i saw that too and i thought that maybe the end of the series, just in the way he worded it i think, he was on about being working a lot and by nov 30th he could relax or something like that, wasnt he?! by sarahboo on 2006-10-24 05:36:07 sydney post 245? notes that If u google the Enochian on google earth it comes up on Jet Propulsion Lab in USA. One of the last great Ordo Templi Orientis (Aleister Crowleys Thelemic Magickal Group ).Lodges of the early days was here,Agape, one of its famous members was Jack Parsons, a scientist at the Lab.Google OTO or Crowley or Thelema and you`ll get enough info, search even magickal initiation/rituals. Enough!watch Youtube, its all a fake drama anyway. by johndee on 2006-10-24 06:16:25 ARGH I want another Gemma video! by Inigo on 2006-10-24 07:38:41 so on the survey subject...did you see that he said that he was going to kidnap someone soon too?? I think that might be a clue by liz on 2006-10-24 07:53:16 Nov. 30th may be the last day of shooting, but I don't think it'll be the last day of the series. This thing will probably go through to December because of the 12-10-06 thing though. Or maybe I'm just completely wrong! I think I've decided to stop trying to solve it, and just let things play out. Hoping it's not a let-down! There have been times that I've felt it will be. As for now, keep the cameras rolling.. and the creativity flowing. Man.. I wonder how much money they're making off all this.. by DontDrinkTheKoolAid on 2006-10-24 08:35:36 Gemma mentions the "sirens" in her recent vlog... I don't know if anyone has nmentioned this interpretation or not (if so,apologies for teh redundancy), but a "siren" is also an entity (usually female), who lures someone into a situation they would otherwise avoid. Like the sirens in Greek mythology who tried to lure Odysseus and his men toward a shipwreck on the rocky shore. Here's a page of nice depictions of the mermaid type of siren: http://altreligion.about.com/library/graphics/bl_mermaid.htm Is Gemma warning Bree about what is luring her, or warning Daniel that Bree is a siren who's "song" is luring him in to a bad fate?? by don_quixote on 2006-10-24 08:49:07 I'm so ready for a new video! What the heck is the hold up?? by Frances on 2006-10-24 09:25:05 I have to agree with brooke! by MLH on 2006-10-24 09:25:43 good catch Don(329) by Tracy on 2006-10-24 10:02:09 Has anyone investigated the meaning of the name Gemma? by Inigo on 2006-10-24 10:24:27 Someone probably found this out already but Gemma means precious stone in Italian Any thoughts on this? by Inigo on 2006-10-24 10:27:43 on Yousef's myspace it says he is "contractually bound to this project for the next year" and this started in august so it might not end in december. it could be longer than that. just something to keep you wondering by Lisa on 2006-10-24 10:43:37 it doesn't make sense.. the ceremony was supposed to go on october 12th bc thats aleister crowley's birthday... so the plot is messed up... guys dont mess it up and try to think again.. you are really ruin it with that crap... "the ceremony was fake" by john doe II on 2006-10-24 10:47:16 Maybe it would be the end of the "first season" and then a new season would begin. To the people who whine about the show and the character not being the same: In a film or TV show, a good character always changes and never stays the same. It's called character development. This series is not a comedy, nor is it a drama. It's both, and sometimes there will be cute and perky videos and sometimesthere will be dark and sad videos. Don't think the show will stay dark forever. I think it will end where it started, Daniel and Bree are friends again and they do proving science wrong installments every now and then by Inigo on 2006-10-24 10:54:52 LOL. by ömer on 2006-10-24 11:19:31 this ma first time watchin. is this lassie trippen? or just mental? by Blake on 2006-10-24 11:38:11 I warned you...now look what you have done! by ThrillKillKult on 2006-10-24 12:00:31 #332 well, not on the interesting gemstone attribution, but Gemma is the name of a Catholic saint. St. Gemma even has her own website. http://www.stgemma.com/ by don_quixote on 2006-10-24 12:08:01 #333 Lisa: I think though if it says "for the next year" it means til the end of the year, or else he would have said "for the next 12 months". As well, I believe it was on the Children of Anchor Cove casting call (maybe not but I knew I read somewhere by the creators) that it was to have a duration of about 6 months, which would mean around december. Which I think is for the best anyways, if it was to go on longer it would drag. The best series are short ones because they follow an actual plot or story. by sidewalkflight on 2006-10-24 12:15:15 liar liar pants on fire by adella on 2006-10-24 12:47:47 hang your butt on a telephone wire (continuing adella's song...) by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 13:40:28 I have a feeling something is going to happen to both of them together. We wont see a post for a while but more clues. Maybe thats what Gemma's role is in this. To keep us posted while they are on the run? Just a thought. AAHHHHhhh I hate that I'm addicted to this!!!!! by VoyBoy on 2006-10-24 13:47:54 Gemma is noone significant in this lonley girl series you guys just a chick posting responce commemnts to this series. you can tell shes smiling the whole time its so easy to tell shes bullshiting, her vids are well done but iam not buiying it by Jessica on 2006-10-24 14:02:25 johndee: "sydney post 245? notes that If u google the Enochian on google earth it comes up on Jet Propulsion Lab in USA. One of the last great Ordo Templi Orientis (Aleister Crowleys Thelemic Magickal Group ).Lodges of the early days was here,Agape, one of its famous members was Jack Parsons, a scientist at the Lab.Google OTO or Crowley or Thelema and you`ll get enough info, search even magickal initiation/rituals. Enough!watch Youtube, its all a fake drama anyway." wow!! i never thought that would actually be of relevance...i just picked the only point close to the LA area :-D...anyways thats really interesting...i wonder if this is where they get the shots? or maybe the real cermeony will be here (if it didn;t already take place) by Sydney on 2006-10-24 14:14:04 don quixote...nice catch..im sure that must be a clue...maybe about bree's mom considering she has made other references to her? by Sydney on 2006-10-24 14:18:51 It isn't so much of a "twist" in the story as it is a salvaging of a used up plot line. Something should have happened on 10/12/06 so that there could have been a better follow up than the lame "I Completed the Ceremony" video. For the sake of the people who are going to keep following this nonsense, I sincerely hope that you capitalize all you can and that "Daniel" gives up the idea of trying to recreate "The Blair Witch" project like he did in the ceremony video. The storyline was really more interesting with the two of you just hanging out in your bedroom. Sad. by George131 on 2006-10-24 14:28:37 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons thats the info on jack parsons...he was hand picked by crowley to lead the "agape center" also...someone refrenced bree having someting to do with the moon or a monn ceremony...heres some interesting excerpts from the link "Parsons set out to find another partner, his so called "scarlet woman", a magical partner with whom he could sire a "Moonchild." The Moonchild is traditionally the incarnation of a God, as prophesied in Crowley's channeled script 'The Book of the Law' (The creation of this Moonchild was covered in Crowley's novel of the same name)." "A crater on the far side of the Moon has been named after him." by Sydney on 2006-10-24 14:44:41 I kinda feel stupid, only because I thought it was all reall... I got worried too! but hey that just shows how awesome an actress you are. one word, BRAVO! you had me fooled. Keep it up! by JeSs(Moonchica of Youtube.com) on 2006-10-24 14:48:19 AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Bree is going to rape daniel!!!!! by SillyWilly on 2006-10-24 15:10:40 Wake up: The world today is sick of nutty religious branches, and your protaginist cannot be a cult member if her popularity is to survive. Bree should turn against the cult, and join Daniel in vanquishing it. Those are the kind of modern heroes we crave. by gwen10287 on 2006-10-24 15:11:54 lol the comments on this site make me so happy! I completely agree, I like the comments more than the actual videos. by elphielives on 2006-10-24 15:16:10 NEW VIDEO PLEASE!! ..... AND I HOPE THIS ONE IS WORTH THE WAIT! by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-24 15:18:18 This means the cult knows about her videos by Orancito on 2006-10-24 15:21:59 #354 gwen10287: Who cares what kind of modern heroes you crave? Why is everyone so hung up about this series entertaining the masses who mostly just want useless fluff? Don't direct the plot according to what would be more "popular", do it as what would be more gripping, more unexpected, more interesting. I've said it once and I'll say it again: ART HAS NO OBLIGATION TO ANYONE. I realize that this is an interactive series with it's audience but why oh why do so many people want boring, predictable fluff? by sidewalkflight on 2006-10-24 15:31:26 #351 thats so interesting i wonder if she really is the new "scarlet woman" or whatever by megan on 2006-10-24 15:41:07 I'm ready to hear a response from Daniel, or Bree talking about their plan, or saying hi to Gemma. In other words, "I want a new video, pleeeeeease? My refresh button is dying here!" by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 15:52:45 o my gosh this is crazy i cant even handle it. i think that they are going to kidnap Daniel on Halloween or something of that nature. I'm just glad taht Bree is finally getting her own mind set rather than just following this cult. SO INTENSE. I was not even expecting this twist either though because it seemed so set in stone and that pictures jsut freaked me out. I seriously was freaked. AHHH cant wait til the next video by lindsey nerdddddd on 2006-10-24 16:22:05 you guys - - - i think joe #149 made a really, really good point. go back and read his post, it explains better, but basically if you take 10-12-06 and take out the 0's it becomes 11226 11-22-06 is the anniversary of the JFK assasination. ... by gracitodorito on 2006-10-24 16:24:41 Bree was on the grassy knoll!!Wait she wasn't alive. by QuickClick on 2006-10-24 16:32:25 If it is now known that this is a internet series, maybe there should be a schedule they stick to. I was beinning to expect a show every other day, but now I'm not so sure... by stellar220 on 2006-10-24 16:46:53 OMG i just realized who bree reminds me of. debbie harry from blondie! she looks EXACTLY like her. especially in the video for hanging on the telephone by blondie. debbie harry and 'bree' look a LOT like eachother in that video. by Molly on 2006-10-24 16:58:46 Hmmm...I'm wondering WHEN she found out it was fake? Because by the way she says it, she could have even gone through with the ceremony and not found out until afterwards. I mean, in The Ceremony Is Tomorrow, she's very optimistic. She doesn't seem to be lying. She does, however, in the one after that. I don't think P Monkey would lie. Where is that little guy (girl)? Also, with the ideas of investigating names, I thought I'd look up Bree. The first site just gave me, "From the Region in France. Also, cheese," so I was like, great, but another said it was gaelic, a derivative of Brigh (accent over i), meaning "power, high" and also "virtue." Also, in the Celtic Tarot, or Tarocchi dei Celti, the Major Arcana II, the High Priestess, is named Brigh. The High Priestess represents intuition, wisdom, serenity, knowledge, understanding, the subconscious, spirituality. It also signifies secrets and wisdom that will be revealed at the proper time. ALSO...she's associated with the MOON! Anyway, I guess also that Brigh is another name for Brighid, or Breg, or Brigid, or whatever, who is a Druid(ic?) goddess or at least figure. It goes on and on, rituals, etc. So what does this mean? Um...well, I would say that if the creators were serious about the fact that they gave her an exalted name, it would signify that her own inner strength and knowledge will overcome the outside forces on her. I think Bree lately has seemed kind of weak, especially after her brazen sneaking-out moments, so maybe she'll get strong again. OR, it could be her significance within the cult. Maybe they see something in her...LIKE A MOONCHILD!!! AAAGHH! Also, Gemma means "gem" in Italian. The internet rocks. You can find anything... by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-24 16:59:12 if anyone can find anything else on jack parsons/the agape center/the jet propulsion lab let me know...its really interesting me now by Sydney on 2006-10-24 17:00:22 #363 stellar220: It is every other day, with the odd 2 a day here and there. I can't remember the last time it was longer. It'll show up by some time tonight, I'll bet you anything. by sidewalkflight on 2006-10-24 17:00:26 PS: i'd actually like it if it were more arbitrary and spontanious, it'd be more realistic as a vlog. by sidewalkflight on 2006-10-24 17:01:14 Umm ookk.. WOW! I just started tuning in on this but wow... the guy who said this was like a soap opera but better.. was right! by Victoria Lynn on 2006-10-24 17:02:46 eustacia....yeaa more moon stuff...i really think the moon is relevent in the ceremony (if u look at my other posts u see y) by Sydney on 2006-10-24 17:04:03 I AGREE WITH COMMENT 363 THERE SHOULD BE A SCHEDULE I NEED MORE ACTION! by will&grace on 2006-10-24 17:08:20 omg guys in her video 'whats a date' you can see her acting like a SQUIRREL.......hmmm connection? by gractiodorito on 2006-10-24 17:21:04 I like the stuff that people have uncovered that hints that Bree might be a special child. DoesntHaveAClue posted a great theory over on the forums that says Bree is one of a few chosen children, the Children of Anchor Cove, intended by the religion to start up a new society / revive the magickal arts / insert ooooo-aaaah thing here. Bree herself told the story where she was "Stargirl"... I also wonder if we have missed something about Bree's religion. If they truly honor "do what thou wilt" then they won't be physically coercing or killing anyone. (You really impinge on someone's free will when you kill them.) Kinda explains their hands-off attitude towards VideoStalker Daniel? And undercuts Bree when she says "they made me do it"? by SharpI on 2006-10-24 17:32:16 COME ON POST A NEW VIDEO ALREADY!! by sarahboo on 2006-10-24 17:33:47 gracitodorito #361 and joe #149, if you take out the zeros from the numbers 10-12-06, then you'll get 1126. Where are you getting the extra 2? If anything, it says 11-02-06. That's the Mexican Day of the Dead! mwa ha ha... I think you guys are stretching it too far. by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 17:35:59 Good point, SharpI. Regarding her religion, "do what thou wilt" can be interpreted many ways. I think that these elders have a completely different viewpoint on things than Bree's parents. I mean, the fact that they have special ceremonies that no one goes to is kind of weird--exclusive to the community rather than inclusive. Maybe Bree's parents are involved in a milder form of the religion (whatever that may be--probably a concoction) that developed to include more people. With all the research on this occultism, the question seems to be, "yeah, but how far does that go?" How symbolic is a ritual as opposed to realistic, etc. So maybe these other cult members take certain things more literally, i.e., moonchildren rituals, etc etc. Also, with Gemma's video, she seems to be very adament about telling Bree that her Mom is a respected lady. I don't think Gemma is the creators' creation, but I do think that they allow her to create vids as long as they don't conflict with the storyline. Anyway, I think we're supposed to feel sympathy for the parents. Maybe she's telling her to talk to her mom? Has she, even? Sorry this is so long, but what does Daniel DO? Is he still in High School? Is he in college? Does he work? Does he live in an apartment or with his parents? Boy, Bree is lucky she can have a boy in her room--I never was allowed to! by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-24 17:49:40 put a sock in it!!!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OLD KOOKY BREE????????????????? by wemepe on 2006-10-24 17:55:02 Eustacia, Good point regarding Daniel. According to previous videos he should be in school, but he doesn't appear to have any obligations keeping him from following Bree & occultists or, for that matter, disappearing. Oh yeah, I wanted to mention that I think you're intolerably pretentious. by treefunk on 2006-10-24 18:02:42 no:372 im pretty sure gemmers is by the creators because of the way it is set up, and i also have them both on my myspace, they know each other, and are friends (the actresses not characters) by sarahboo on 2006-10-24 18:04:48 Any ideas why this site doesn't include videos 1,3,5,9, & 14? by treefunk on 2006-10-24 18:06:29 because they might not be relevant to the story line by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-24 18:10:48 I like your ideas, Eustacia, and I'm still looking forward to that beer! by cyberpilot888 on 2006-10-24 18:21:36 treefunk, I read on some site (don't remember where, sorry) that those videos had copyrighted material that they couldn't post, or didn't have permission to play a song, I remember one was about Bree's Napolean Dynamite poster and that crossed copyright laws somehow. by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 18:22:46 haha, nevermind. I found the site. It's on the LGpedia! Under the video list, they have a description of every video. Click on the ones that don't show up, and they'll tell you why they can't post them anymore. by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 18:23:46 silkyworm the extra 2 came from 10-12-06 being changed into 10-12-2006 to avoid.....just go read joe's! by gracitodorito on 2006-10-24 18:37:59 come on! lets see a new one already! THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME! by Nik on 2006-10-24 18:42:37 Speaking of video #3 . . . does the reference to ancient Roman cannabalism mean anything? by Spiletta42 on 2006-10-24 18:43:30 ??? Is it or not you Jess?? by Caio Brazil on 2006-10-24 18:48:24 FINALLY A NEW ONE!!! by Inigo on 2006-10-24 18:48:52 OMFGGGGGFGFGFG A NEW VIDEO IS COMMING UP!! by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-24 18:48:55 #358 sidewalkflight: What's "gripping, more unexpected, more interesting"? Blair Witch rehash, or a kid smart enough to dump her religion? Why should art worry about popularity? Because unpopular = unseen = irrelevant. by gwen10287 on 2006-10-24 18:51:34 spiletta, I had never seen that video before (because it wasn't posted on this site), but I just watched it 5 minutes ago and I wonder if that's supposed to foreshadow something. by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 18:52:01 HER NEW VIDEO LOOKS LIKE SHES FILMING SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN HER ROOM HMMMM by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-24 18:55:31 Nobody better even dare try to guess that they're first!!! by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 18:57:09 Hey, what if we all said something to the people that do post "first." I don't know what, something funny. by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 18:58:53 LOL i agree with silkyworm! by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-24 18:58:53 this is driving me nuts! lol is it still up loading? is that why we cant view it yet? by VoyBoy on 2006-10-24 18:59:34 Oh, come on. Sacrifice the virgin already and be done with this. by sacrifice on 2006-10-24 18:59:39 lol probly but im getting FREAKING ANTSY! by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-24 19:00:33 I think I've already pressed the reset button over 30 times since the new video icon popped up! by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 19:05:56 Oh my gosh!!! I'm 400th!!! (Just want to get that excitement out now so I'm not tempted to write "1st.") by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 19:08:39 New video, but not able to play it. THIS is why you don't let purple monkey puppets edit your videos, I mean c'mon already! by diddlysquat on 2006-10-24 19:12:15 391 gwen10287 A kid smart enough to dump her religion. How fascinating. Automatic lesson learned. I don't neccessarily mean this is amazing gripping stuff already, the point I was making is why don't people want this to go in a more interesting or unexpected stuff over predictable fluff? by sidewalkflight on 2006-10-24 19:12:22 does it take 20 minutes to upload? geeeez! by scoot on 2006-10-24 19:12:08 The last video was "I lied to Daniel" and now this new one will be "I listened to Daniel." What extreme opposites. Could it be that she's dropping out of the ceremony? What will the cult do to her if she does that?! by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 19:12:41 the suspense is killing me by Sydney on 2006-10-24 19:14:29 I THINK SHE WENT ON AN ESPIONAGE MISSION!! cuz shes not in her room by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-24 19:14:35 PS: Who cares if it is irrelevent... that's what makes art art. Maybe you don't like it and maybe you do. It's not about you, it's about the art itself. by sidewalkflight on 2006-10-24 19:14:55 holy crapoli. i refuse to refresh. I refuse! *fine* one more time... by doreen gray on 2006-10-24 19:15:50 I totally agree sidewalkflight, I'd rather be surprised and flipped upside-down than to watch a predictable outcome. That's why I love the thrillers (M Night Sham.). by silkyworm on 2006-10-24 19:15:55 wtf i wanna see the new vid! I do have to admit, before i seen the interviews i thought this all was real so im still hooked lol by Ktizzle on 2006-10-24 19:22:24 Sidewalkfight: This is a commercial project. Either the three producers keep the numbers up or they're outa here. by gwen10287 on 2006-10-24 19:45:29 treefunk (#379) LOL by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-24 23:03:10 Stargazer, #322... I mentioned the obvious as ONE possibility b4 listing several others.. that was part of my intentionality. by Laura on 2006-10-25 08:55:46 THINK ABOUT THIS : she didn't lie to daniel! it was a ceremony! she just freaked out when she had seen that the film of the ceremony were published on internet so she is trying to ''convince'' us it's fake so because it's not meant for outsiders to see! just think about it..... and btw.. how dumb are you.. you are 16 for christ sake... dont let your parents toss you around like that, i dont understand how you take all of that, just stand up to them and dont say something like: yes but you dont understand its difficult and i cant explain its not that simple blablabla yes you can just stand up to them, it IS that simple.... by Darren on 2006-10-25 16:12:19 wot is a ceremony ?!?! i dnt understand?! sooooo confussed!!:S by clayre on 2006-10-28 06:39:15 the 'scores' given by p monkey were 10/12/06 meaning the 12th of october, right? WRONG! In the US the date format is MONTH/DAY/YEAR However in the UK we do the date properly 10/12/06 (DD/MM/YY) would be the 10th of december!! Bree says that she spent time over here when she was growing up, maybe the 10th of December, is the inteded clue as to when the ceremony will be. or maybe i reading far to much into this! by paul on 2006-10-28 14:39:12 LOl....what d hell is this!! Can you do a video on something more interesting. This is 22222 dum!!! by Dman on 2006-10-28 21:15:40 i find the references to the oto offensive by chaoticmonk on 2006-11-03 20:55:23 wat kinda shots is she taking??? by lazy_girl165 on 2007-08-24 21:33:25 Paul, I think that's a very valid assumption! I never even noticed the P. Monkey score thing! Way to go, Eagle Eyes! by greebo sanders on 2007-09-29 16:37:47 Now, she finally comes to her senses about the whole thing. I knew that it would have been hard for her to do it, but now I think she knows what she has to do to make it up to Daniel and to clear the air with him. Let's just hope that Daniel and her both make it out alive. Shonder~ by fiddlefingers90 on 2008-03-13 06:08:04 |