<center><iframe width='560' height='315' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/CuS0OOTfl7Q' title='YouTube video player' frameborder='0' allow='accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share' allowfullscreen></iframe><br ><font size=4>Title: <b>I Completed The Ceremony!</b> posted by lonelygirl15 on 2006-10-13 17:10:29</font><br /></center><hr width='70%' /><center><table width=70%><tr><td>YOU'RE ALIVE!!!!<br /><i>by Shawn on 2006-10-13 15:05:15</i><br /><hr />weell at least she's okaay. but whats on her arm.<br /><i>by smwx16 on 2006-10-13 15:07:17</i><br /><hr />wow- Im one of the first!!! .......very good??<br /><i>by luisa on 2006-10-13 15:07:31</i><br /><hr />first time I've seen one as soon as released!<br /><i>by annie on 2006-10-13 15:07:50</i><br /><hr />she have a black eye?<br /><i>by makeslove on 2006-10-13 15:09:24</i><br /><hr />i can't view your latest video!<br /><i>by mcdreamy on 2006-10-13 15:10:41</i><br /><hr />OMG! She's alive! She didn't say anything about Daniel crashing the party either?? Such discipline. I would have reamed him out. And what's with the bandage? What'd they do to her??? Definitely a cult!<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 15:11:23</i><br /><hr />WATCH MY YOUTUBE VIDEOS







____!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by ADAMGOODAY on 2006-10-13 15:12:22</i><br /><hr />You are my life...<br /><i>by from Italy on 2006-10-13 15:12:58</i><br /><hr />She looks okay. Bree, "Eat your Ovaltine".<br /><i>by The Silent One on 2006-10-13 15:14:13</i><br /><hr />um...letdown?<br /><i>by Nick on 2006-10-13 15:14:16</i><br /><hr />i guess she doesn't know about daniel...<br /><i>by aleeson on 2006-10-13 15:14:50</i><br /><hr />Why is her hair all messy?  Hmmmmm.<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-10-13 15:14:50</i><br /><hr />AWW i'm glad it all worked out! 

I just hope that Bree doesn't become all serious and "disciplined" now and stop being the fun and spunky Bree we love.<br /><i>by starry_eyed_surprise on 2006-10-13 15:15:08</i><br /><hr />it does kinda look like she has a black eye, hmmm, wonder what's gonna happen next.  But I'm glad she's not dead! lmfao<br /><i>by Miriam on 2006-10-13 15:15:50</i><br /><hr />hmmm.......no reaction to Daniel's video huh?  I am suprised that she said nothing about him following her into the mountains.  Maybe she knows that something happened to him?<br /><i>by NancyC820 on 2006-10-13 15:15:51</i><br /><hr />hmmm what about the thing that what ur sayin is all a lie? what about that?..what u have to say about that uh uh<br /><i>by Osmar on 2006-10-13 15:16:28</i><br /><hr />Yep, looks like she has a black eye.  And another bandage on her shoulder.  Where is this going?<br /><i>by Spi on 2006-10-13 15:16:48</i><br /><hr />she has been possed by aliens!!!!

the world is on extreme danger!!!!



and today is fridat 13th!!! deam!<br /><i>by sycces on 2006-10-13 15:17:15</i><br /><hr />Why is she still getting those weird shots if she finished the ceremony? 
Did she get one AT the ceremony???<br /><i>by Raquel on 2006-10-13 15:17:23</i><br /><hr />she looks really exhausted<br /><i>by liz on 2006-10-13 15:17:30</i><br /><hr />um ya ok..so now what..what trix have you got up your sleve Bree and Daniel at it again or is it over..<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-13 15:17:49</i><br /><hr />jumped the shark weeks ago.<br /><i>by Someone who cares on 2006-10-13 15:17:54</i><br /><hr />what's with the bandage? did she have to sacrifice a dime size piece of flesh?

what was entailed with meeting the elders? did she have to surrender anything to the elders?

it almost seems a "morning after" type of video. like she's become a woman.
 
ok enough innuendo.

this leaves as many questions as it does answers. Lost, anyone?<br /><i>by Lureman on 2006-10-13 15:18:05</i><br /><hr />Well I guess it must be the ceremony of light then?  She's alive, LOL.  So is she out of danger now?  Or is more waiting for her?<br /><i>by Jim on 2006-10-13 15:18:33</i><br /><hr />Does anyone think this is a real religion or are the creators using a fictional one to keep us all in the dark?<br /><i>by Mike on 2006-10-13 15:18:46</i><br /><hr />I'm thinking Bree is getting all "dark and twisty". And she has to know about Daniel. She ALWAYS knows about Daniel. He posted his stuff on youtube. Come ON! Even though this isn't real, she has to know what he did. He made it pretty freakin' public. She probably doesn't even care. She's all about the cult now. Awww, I miss Bree.<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 15:18:49</i><br /><hr />...for months? Aren't you exaggerating a little?<br /><i>by Ninja Sif on 2006-10-13 15:18:51</i><br /><hr />wow. check out that bandage.<br /><i>by Kimmie on 2006-10-13 15:18:58</i><br /><hr />I hate to admit it but I've pretty much lost interest in this.  There has to be just a little bit more to the episodes to make it reasonable to hang in there for the "next one". 
Yeah, Bree got a hypodermic injection that's why she has the bandaid on her arm... and of course this begs the questions: who is administering the shots (especially since Lucy is now gone), why did she get a shot _after_ the ritual (because she has to carry on with her responisbility, yeah, okay... and so we're to wonder whether she will _keep_ getting the weekly shots); etc. etc.

*sigh*<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 15:20:31</i><br /><hr />The event was on the eve of Friday the 13th. Hint maybe?<br /><i>by Orancito on 2006-10-13 15:21:35</i><br /><hr />Aleister Crowley made up some cult of his own that involved some really twisted things. It involved drugs, sex with virgins and other dirty twisted things. Check it out on wikipedia. He is a pretty weird guy and his picture is hanging on her wall! I'm not saying that is her religion, it's just kind of suspicious. We haven't been able to name her religion yet, you know?<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 15:22:12</i><br /><hr />Hey creators, don't listen to the people saying 'blair witch'. There's a zillion movies out there and no matter what you make, it will remind them of some other movie. And if you don't put cool stuff in they won't like it... SO, put more of this in your movies.<br /><i>by Jim on 2006-10-13 15:22:29</i><br /><hr />Wow, so she is alive, she looks really tired and to be honest a little fed up, even though she says shes happy, she has bags under her eyes and they have taken more blood, or given her something....hm i hope daniel visits her and gets the truth out of her<br /><i>by Sarahboo on 2006-10-13 15:23:04</i><br /><hr />ya she did look like shes been through alot n her face lookes kinnda dazed..hmm..other then this whole ordeal meaning alot to her parents why else do it like what happens now..do her parents respect her a lil more.. ..well guys at least it wasn't a movie in theaters that you payed for if i wanted to see teens doing needles n taking pills  i could go to any crummy town every city has them<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-13 15:23:26</i><br /><hr />Well...I'm glad it worked out too, although they're not dishing up much info...and what's with her not commenting on Daniel?  I know she maybe wants to ignore it to rise above it, but you think she'd at least reference it or react to someone telling the world her religion is a freaky cult.  

Maybe something big is coming???  This whole ceremony thing seemed to be a red herring...but...Friday the 13th? Maybe that's a red herring too...

sigh...I love these but it's starting to drag a bit...it's ok as long as there's a payoff.<br /><i>by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-13 15:23:46</i><br /><hr />Yes please can someone tell me is it is a "real" religion or a religion the creators thought up. I am so confused!?!?<br /><i>by MrsCEC on 2006-10-13 15:24:42</i><br /><hr />The event was on October 12th because that was Aleister Crowley's birthday.<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 15:25:03</i><br /><hr />Oh, and I think she's evidencing symptoms of stockhokm syndrome *yawn*... especially since she gushes priase of Lucy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Syndrome

http://sniggle.net/stock.php<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 15:25:14</i><br /><hr />Bree, you've been brainwashed by an evil cult.  It's okay, it happens to the best of us, but now you need to let Daniel rescue you.<br /><i>by JayHenry on 2006-10-13 15:25:41</i><br /><hr />Nothing to do with Friday the 13th. Sorry.<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 15:26:26</i><br /><hr />Check out Stockholm syndrome.
http://sniggle.net/stock.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Syndrome

Bree's got some symptoms.<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 15:27:29</i><br /><hr />That there folks is a blood drawn bandage..How do I know? I get blood drawn from me every so often to see if the medication I take works (and I was tested for mono) However its not in the correct location. I assume they took a cup of blood and somebody drank it as a ritual type thing. And in order to do that they would have had to strike a vein or something. Yall can look that up..<br /><i>by 707clique on 2006-10-13 15:29:11</i><br /><hr />I posted two links to onfo about Stockhol Syndrome and my comments are "awaiting moderation".  I guess the forum chokes on links.
Anyway, look it up yu guys... Bree shows signs of having it.<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 15:29:12</i><br /><hr />wow that was a waste!
i was expecting alot more...
i think daniel totally has the show now.. i want to hear form him more<br /><i>by Carlie on 2006-10-13 15:29:12</i><br /><hr />She doesn't have Stockholm's! That's stupid! She wasn't taken captive!!! And she went into this willingly. She was actually excited! She might be a little brainwashed at this point, but Stockholm's is just stupid.<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 15:31:02</i><br /><hr />Just because she praises Lucy and actually LIKES her own religion doesn't make her a mental patient? Do people capture you on your way to church? Good grief. I'll admit, this church is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY out there, but doesn't make her a Stockholm's victim.<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 15:34:30</i><br /><hr />Okay, I think you guys are forgetting that this is all scripted. It's fun to watch, but who cares if the bandage is in the wrong spot! Like Hollywood hasn't made bigger mistakes in multi-million dollar productions!<br /><i>by Sarah on 2006-10-13 15:36:42</i><br /><hr />god 2 c dat u are alive and kickin bree<br /><i>by darren tobin on 2006-10-13 15:37:49</i><br /><hr />bree is nervous. she was told to lie. someone took her virginity. she's afraid in this video. the people from her cult told her she had to tell us it went well. she's lieing to us.

BREE TELLS LIES.<br /><i>by andrew callaway on 2006-10-13 15:39:08</i><br /><hr />I don't think the Stockholm's theory is stupid at all!  Consider what we have to look at here:

-Bree has a bandage on her arm.  she is still being given shots.  we don't know exactly what for, but it could very well be for unwell reasons.

-Bree is looking very tired.  trust me, it's not that the actress just happened to be under the weather today, EVERY THING this show does is INTENTIONAL- they are a professional studio, and if she looks tired, it's cuz that's how they WANTED her to look for the purposes of the story.

plus, i mean, she had expected to be even weaker.  just walking around and reciting doesn't make a person THAT weak the next day!  

-Bree mentioned an incantation.  "An incantation is the words spoken during a ritual, either a hymn or prayer invoking or praising a deity, or in magic, occultism, witchcraft with the intention of casting a spell or an object or a person."

what kind of spell do you think they put on Bree?

so, in conclusion, Stockholm's Syndrome makes perfect sense and I really think there was more to the ceremony than Bree is letting on to!

here is Otter's link for Stockholm's, for those who are interested:  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Syndrome<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 15:44:41</i><br /><hr />Hey your hoeschooled I am homeschooled to i know what it feels like to be the outcast of the school becaus eI went to school this past year and I made a lot of friedns but /i hated the teacher so I got out of the school.MY user name that is one here is the one that I have on u-tube and I'm willing to be your friend if you want me to as  matter of fact I actually want to !<br /><i>by sweetpea2325 on 2006-10-13 15:44:47</i><br /><hr />I wonder what storie's Owen and P. Monkey would have to tell us...<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 15:47:17</i><br /><hr />ONE LAST THING ahhh

she says:  

"i've been told it's a great honor to even be in the Elders' presence.

Now I understand why."

well... WHY then, Bree?<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 15:49:13</i><br /><hr />So that was uneventful.

Bree, why no comment to Daniel?

Why are you still getting shots?

Where is Lucy going?<br /><i>by Penny on 2006-10-13 15:51:03</i><br /><hr />amd wicca is not for lesbos<br /><i>by sweetpea2325 on 2006-10-13 15:53:12</i><br /><hr />Like everyone else said.. what's with the black eye??<br /><i>by em on 2006-10-13 15:53:35</i><br /><hr />Bree, you don't look healthy in this video at all. Apart from the bandage on your arm, your face looks tired and you look much skinnier. 

Something wrong has been done to you, and you've been told to lie about it. The Bree I saw in this video was definitely not the same Bree who proved science wrong just a few weeks ago.

Daniel better stay on this case. If Bree is going to lie, Daniel's the only one we can rely on for new information.<br /><i>by Heidi on 2006-10-13 15:54:28</i><br /><hr />whoever keeps saying she's having blood drawn is wrong. you cannot take blood from muscle tissue. i'm in school right now to be a nurse. you only give shots into muscle.

and the whole stockholm syndrome theory actually seems likely.<br /><i>by meggers on 2006-10-13 15:54:52</i><br /><hr />uhhh ok i know I'm just going out of control with the comments on this one, but bear with me.

we still have things to think about.

PEOPLE HELP ME RESEARCH THIS!  on the youtube version, the last word in the tags is 

BARNACLE.

!?!?!?!?  let's find out what the significance is.<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 15:56:25</i><br /><hr />Wow, i have been watching these shows for the past month now. I have to admit, that they are starting to really drag.. and I am starting to loose interest. I really think that they need to get off the religion kick and move onto something else, bc these last couple videos have really been lagging. Actully its kinda been ever since she came back after the fight with daniel.. hm.<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-13 16:05:54</i><br /><hr />Everyone keeps saying the bandage is in the wrong spot. It's not. We keep assuming that blood was drawn, but what if she received some sort of innoculation? That part of the shoulder is frequently used by FEMA for innovulations. Don't believe me? Just do a Google image search and see for yourself.

Of course, there could be other explanations as well, just offering one potential one.<br /><i>by Matt on 2006-10-13 16:06:54</i><br /><hr />Ok, notice the way she doesn't make constant eye contact with the camera.  I would have to go back and review other videos, but it seems strange for her to keep looking away.  Like someone who is lying.<br /><i>by cmh on 2006-10-13 16:10:35</i><br /><hr />remember she said she had to get shots and stuff? she had the same thing on her arm in another video too, and i guess thats where they are from.<br /><i>by Janielle on 2006-10-13 16:11:39</i><br /><hr />Do you think Daniel was caught at the end of his vid and now they have him?  But if he was then how did he publish the video?  Maybe they put it up so that Bree wouldn't know that they have him?  Or maybe they want us to think that he wasn't caught so that we wouldn't know that Bree knows that they have him. Or maybe, just maybe, Daniel should concentrate more on his driving than on filming whilst driving.<br /><i>by whateverwhatever on 2006-10-13 16:14:15</i><br /><hr />Lisa (49) you're entitled to your opinion but it's clear that you haven't a clue about what Stockholm Syndrome is.  If you want to diss ny post, fine, but if you don't want to come off as a fool, at least do so in an informed way (hint: read the info at the links).

rhemasan (54) You got the drift... thakn you! :)  As always, you're posts are lucid and interesting!<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 16:14:41</i><br /><hr />Here's an interesting web site if anyone is still interested in checking out Thelema-type groups:  http://thelema.tribe.net/<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-13 16:16:05</i><br /><hr />Stockholm's is a RETARDED theory because you can't kidnap the WILLING!!! I'm not saying she doesn't look ragged and tired. Not saying that at all. What I am saying is that she was PUMPED for this ceremony when she first found out she was doing this. Now what they did to her at that ceremony (which was probably not socially acceptable) has NOTHING to do with Stockholm's. Why don't you get yourselves an education and then we'll talk about you clinically diagnosing people with mental afflictions, k?<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 16:17:48</i><br /><hr />I liked the video! I think it's leading up to the fact that she is going to have problems with having a friendship with daniel...
It's creepy that she said lucy held her hand the whole time... During what? I mean I know the ceremony, but what did the ceremony entail?!
LOVE the story line and the vid's KEEP IT UP!!<br /><i>by october17 on 2006-10-13 16:18:26</i><br /><hr />Anti-climactic to say the least. I thought after the Daniel video of the ceremony that we were gonna start getting deeper into the mystery. This was more like "HoHum, nothing really happened. Just your standard everyday ceremony."<br /><i>by trainer101 on 2006-10-13 16:18:27</i><br /><hr />That really seems to fit (Stockholm Synd.).  Good posts 

Here's the info I read at one of teh links you provided that rang a bell~
"Outside of the criminal context, a form of the syndrome may take place in military basic training, in which "training is a mildly traumatic experience intended to produce a bond," with the goal of forming military units which will remain loyal to each other even in life-threatening situations.
Similarly, the effects of the "hazing" system of induction into groups such as fraternities and sororities have been compared to the syndrome.

Loyalty to a more powerful abuser â€” in spite of the danger that this loyalty puts the victim in â€” is common among victims of domestic abuse, battered partners and child abuse (dependent children). In many instances the victims choose to remain loyal to their abuser, and choose not to leave him or her, even when they are offered a safe placement in foster homes or safe houses."<br /><i>by CinnamonSun on 2006-10-13 16:19:08</i><br /><hr />Not sure if it's been mentioned or not or if it matters but I went back and watched "In the Park" In that she takes pills and Daniel asks about them and says something about 'Iron pills' Just thought i'd share. =] And I love these videos, keep them coming. :D<br /><i>by Lauren on 2006-10-13 16:20:43</i><br /><hr />HELLO. I FOUND THAT THIS SHOW WAS MUCH MORE INTERESTING WHEN BREE AND DANIAL WERE FRIENDS. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY. THIS HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE FREAKY AND I WISH HER AND DANIEL WOULD REMAIN FRIENDS!

Please!<br /><i>by Jessica Roche on 2006-10-13 16:21:49</i><br /><hr />"I feel like a completely new person."  This fits with the "Cassie is an alternate personality" theory.  Perhaps Bree has faded into the subconscious, and Cassie has taken over!<br /><i>by Ben on 2006-10-13 16:22:34</i><br /><hr />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_Brethren
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darbyites#Characteristics

has anyone seen or mentioned this?((if they have then i apologise))

they seem to be a sort of christian cult which is on the decline

i found this paragraph interesting:

...Those Exclusive Brethren known as Taylor Brethren or Taylor/Symington/Hales Brethren maintain a very isolationist and traditional view, **WiTH MANY OF THEiR CHiLDREN HOME SCHOOLED**, a strict dress code for church meetings, and members commonly self employed or working for Christian organisations.

SO TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!

and once again if this has already been discussed then im very sorry and disregard this =]<br /><i>by Bindi on 2006-10-13 16:22:39</i><br /><hr />I LOOOVE LG15....

but...

THIS VIDEO (AND DANNY BOY'S LAST ONE)

SUCK

MY

BAWLS!!!

One more like this... Giving me NOTHING to work with, and I'm outtie. I feel so disappointed and betrayed and I feel like this has all been a waste of time.

I wasn't EXCEPTING something GOREY or whatnot. But AT LEAST give us SOMETHING to TALK ABOUT! UUUGGGHHHH!!! It REALLLY sucked. Sorry.<br /><i>by Alee on 2006-10-13 16:23:11</i><br /><hr />Biggest.  Letdown.  Ever.<br /><i>by Bored on 2006-10-13 16:23:24</i><br /><hr />So, Stockholm's is a RETARDED thoery, and yet you're not WILLING to read the first paragraph on Wikipedia  which clearly states that it is used to refer to other situations with similar tensions (which this could easily be described as).   Agree. Disagree.  Whatever.  But don't be so ignorant whilst doing it!<br /><i>by whateverwhatever on 2006-10-13 16:25:05</i><br /><hr />But she has been in this religion her ENTIRE LIFE. SHE WANTED TO DO THE CEREMONY!  Even before Lucy, and everything else. This is no different than a Jewish boy going to his Bat Mitzvah. And choosing to do so. She chose to do this. She was excited to do this. You cry Stockholm's because you don't like her religion. (Understandably so!)

And her praises of Lucy? This girl is extremely isolated, she's home schooled for crying out loud. If you guys want to keep cutting and pasting definitions of Stockholm's to prove me wrong, that's fine. I'll rely on my own education to tell you that she is not now, nor was she ever a victim of Stockholm's.<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 16:25:05</i><br /><hr />CinnamonSun(74)  I was just about to post the quote you did.  Snarky Lisa obviously doesn't know what Stockholm Syndrome is.
She is "captive" and has been put through stress (like hazing or basic training); she is identifying with the authority figures who are dictating what she will do, and has bonded with them to the exclusion of other firends and even of her parents. 
She shows the symptoms of the Stockholm Syndrome, but that may not be where the writers/creators are taking this  -- so even though it is that, it's not the focal point of the plot (maybe).<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-13 16:25:05</i><br /><hr />Lisa, (71)  there is absolutely no reason to get so viscious.

We know that Bree was not kidnapped.  That is entirely besides the point.  What otter said, and what I agree with, is that she is showing characteristics of the elements of Stockholm's that make you !!sympathize with your oppressor/abuser!!  

it doesn't have to literally be a KIDNAPPER... just someone doing wrong to you in general.  

if you have visited the Stockholm's link otter has provided, you would have read this:

"The syndrome explains what happens in hostage-taking situations, but can also be used to understand the behavior of battered spouses, members of religious cults..."

VOILA!

i love you, otter.  o-(^_^)-o<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 16:28:44</i><br /><hr />That's not Bree.

At least not the one we've gotten to know. Look at her eyes, her body language, the way her eyes are constantly cast downward, her constant fidgiting and movement, her unwillingness to look directly into the camera for more than an instant.

She is terrified of something.<br /><i>by dogger on 2006-10-13 16:30:25</i><br /><hr />Whateverwhatever (#77), I did read wikipedia's "definition" of Stockholm, but I mostly relied on my criminal psychology degree. She's just not a candidate. I'm glad you all did your "research" though. Try cracking open your DSM IV. OH WAIT, Stockholm's isn't recognized in there. I'm all done here. Maybe I am wrong and perhaps Stockholm is the effect the creators were going for.<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 16:31:34</i><br /><hr />Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz<br /><i>by chloe on 2006-10-13 16:33:17</i><br /><hr />Writers, please have Bree tell us what the plaster on her arm is all about.  It's not fair to leave us hanging.  And tell us why she looks like forty miles of bad road.  She used to look so beautiful.  Bree used to have such beautiful clear skin and sparkling clear eyes and she was radiant with joy.  Now she's pathetically haggard looking and she's got a shallow complexion, dark circles under her eyes and she's bone thin.  What the heck is going on?  Please tell us.  You writers sure know how to drive us fans all nuts guessing at what we think might be going on.  It's fun, but it's also annoying.  Come on...more info please.

P.S.  I miss the old Bree.  The happy, carefree, goofy, funny, bubbly Bree.  She was a delight and enjoyable to watch.  The "new" Bree is just sad, very depressing.  I know it's all part of the storyline and Bree has to be the way she is now for the development of the story, but I sure miss the old Bree.  It's making me bummed out, but I'll continue to watch because I want to know what happens and how it all ends.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-13 16:34:11</i><br /><hr />I agree with you guys.. she does look completely wiped out.. then again, the combined dieting, stress and staying up late would have that effect.

Granted, I've never been involved in any exotic religions/cults, but from the research I've done so far, not one mentions giving injections or dieting in preparation for any type of ceremony whatsoever.. nor, for that matter that having imaginary friends is 'healthy' in someone who is clearly not a small child. One would think if someone is to be given more responsibility to deal with, they'd be encouraged to act in a more adult fashion rather than a lesser one.

Personally, I think she's going to be falling into a serious funk now, without Daniel and nothing to look forward to.

And otter and CinnamonSun - I think you guys have hit the nail on the head.<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-10-13 16:34:28</i><br /><hr />WHERE'S DANIEL?!? in all our worry about Bree we didn't stop and think that maybe something could happen to Daniel because of all of his spying.

frankly i never liked daniel but i'm a little worried about him now. the way that video ended it really makes me wonder who posted it in the first place... Bree it's good that you enjoyed the ceremony but tell us the truth about what happened.<br /><i>by IntriguedinMD on 2006-10-13 16:34:59</i><br /><hr />I know it is used in cults, but she has taken this drastic turn SOOOOO recently, and she has been in this "religion" all her life. She has always been a religious person, and it has never caused an attitude change. Why now? You can't all of a sudden cry Stockholm's. You need to fully understand Stockholm's before you go jumping the gun. If she had JUST joined the religion and her behavior changed, that's one thing. But this is something else entirely. Can someone, one person in here, see where I am coming from?<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-13 16:36:44</i><br /><hr />Welcome back Bree!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 16:40:34</i><br /><hr />this whole Stokholm's debate is getting out of hand!  i agree it is not the point of the plot, but it WOULD make difference to the story if she WAS experiencing this syndrome, wouldn't it?

of course, Bree grew up in this religion and of course, does not fear it.  she is loyal to it and loves it in her way.

but the way in which this show has been produced, makes it clear to me that they INTEND for us to feel a bit creeped out and fear for her safety.  

i don't think it's any longer a question of whether or not her religion is harmless.  the creators are leading us to believe that it is not.  IMHO, of course ;)

Ben,  (77) we've discussed the Bree-is-Cassie theory and even I was asking about it a couple days ago... but because of things like Bree saying that Cassie was in Daniel's grade, and similar things, most of us have ruled out that option.  Also, somebody found the original casting call for this show, and it called for TWO young female actresses, and Cassie's role was as a vibrant spunkie teenager, even more so than Bree.  so we may have to wait on that one.

Bindi, (78)  soooooo much research has been made, using the clues in the videos and such, and there isn't any doubt about the origins of Bree's religion.  it isn't related to Christianity, at least not in a recognizable sense.  also, as far as the homeschooled thing goes... I grew up homeschooled in a christian family who was VERY conservative, and many of my friends did as well.  nothing that Bree has gone through regarding this ceremony (or her religion) is at all similar.  But hey good job helping out with the research!  we really could use all the new theories we can get, and if you want to further research this, that would be awesome.

sorry for the long comment again.  &gt;.<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 16:41:49</i><br /><hr />Then your criminal psychology degree would have pointed out that Stockholm's clearly isn't like Two Legs Syndrome in that it isn't a precise diagnosis.    BTW, I don't agree that she has 'got' Stockholm's - I just didn't like the way you dismissed the idea for the wrong reason or the way you did it.  I made up Two Legs Syndrome by the way (but I definitely have it), so that's not in DSM IV either. ;)<br /><i>by whateverwhatever on 2006-10-13 16:43:51</i><br /><hr />This is so very gay... God, I wasted all this time waiting for something big and then this?? This HUGE let down???? I can not even describe the disapointment in the amazing amount of bordom I feel for this series. Sorry LG15, but I guess this is a show for teeny boopers.... BOO!!!!<br /><i>by lg22 on 2006-10-13 16:46:32</i><br /><hr />Lisa, I do see where you are coming from.  Stokholm's was only ever a theory, nothing more, we're not saying IT IS STOKHOLM'S AND NOTHING ELSE BUWAAHAHAHA!!!!!!

it's just that... yes she's been in this religion her whole life... but this is the first time she's gone through anything so rigorous and drastic.  like she said, she has crossed over.  she's entered into a new phase of the religion. 

who knows?<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 16:46:42</i><br /><hr />she's very shifty... is this a side effect of the pills, injections, and dieting?<br /><i>by katie on 2006-10-13 16:49:05</i><br /><hr />If Daniel posted the last video it must mean he is okay...Daniel is just fine.<br /><i>by Penny on 2006-10-13 16:49:09</i><br /><hr />Ah but Penny (97) - did you see my theory (68)?<br /><i>by whateverwhatever on 2006-10-13 16:51:48</i><br /><hr />The stage was set for her home-schooling (i.e isolation for so-called normal socializing), and her parents being super strict __ for instance, letting her do something light andsimple like hiking was a major deal.  That in itself had the earmarks of some neurosis.
Then, with teh introduction of lucy, who was there specifically to "help" her conform to the rigid structure of "preparation" for the ritual, and her strict diet, the pills and the shots, it's obvious that her enthusiastic bonding with Lucy (while being bland about her parents, and seeing Daniel's friendship as untrue) is what gets called the Stockholm Syndrome.   I like whateverwhatever's idea of giving it a totally different name, though. :)

Turns out that the "preparation" wasn't just for teh ceremony __ it has to be a way of life because the "elders" have told her so.  You don't need to be Freud to figure that one out.

All she needs is a black beret and an Uzi to complete the picture.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-13 16:52:23</i><br /><hr />So.....is that it??<br /><i>by Fei on 2006-10-13 16:52:41</i><br /><hr />oh, wait, lol, Bindi!  sorry dear i think i mis-read your comment before.  i don't think i understood it.  hehe sorry :P  disregard my whole thing about christian-homeschoolers-not-being-occultists.<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 16:53:20</i><br /><hr />Katie (96) - I think that's a side effect of the MTV generation's requirement to only look at 2 seconds of film before the need for --cut to lying on bed-- another cut.<br /><i>by whateverwhatever on 2006-10-13 16:55:50</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy you wrote ""One would think if someone is to be given more responsibility to deal with, theyâ€™d be encouraged to act in a more adult fashion rather than a lesser one.""

You're absolutely spot on!!  Great way of stating that. They are trying to infantalize her, keeping her under their authority and constant watch.<br /><i>by CinnamonSun on 2006-10-13 16:56:01</i><br /><hr />Firstly, Bree doesn't have a black eye. They're just bags from staying up into the night to do this ceremony. Also, she did some things that made her weak, so she's even more tired. They're just bags.

Also, that bandage is just another shot she had to take. It's not anything new. Just interesting that she still has to take it when it's over. 

I am quite frustrated that Bree didn't say anything to tell us about this ceremony more. But then, if it's so secretive that her parents couldn't come and only the elders are allowed there, I don't see her spilling any juicy details about it. And Lucy is a strange character. A traveling helper for the religion...? 

My last note... I think we should find out (as #63 pointed out) what the tag "barnacle" means. We all know barnacles as things that attach themselves to piers and turtle's backs, but they're also distantly related to crabs and lobsters. Another reference to astrology? Or is she trying to send code that something is sticking on to her... like the elders are going to be watching closely to make sure what happened doesn't leak? (Just trying to get some thoughts going, I'm not making any claims.)<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-13 16:57:46</i><br /><hr />I still think they drained her blood and drank it.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 16:58:11</i><br /><hr />SNOOOOOZ!!!

wow that was a waste, we waited all this time for her ceremony and all we get is this.

BOOOO!<br /><i>by vwrider on 2006-10-13 16:59:22</i><br /><hr />Ok, I'm conviced something strange did happen at the ceremony... "Lucy was amazing. She stood beside me the entire time and held my hand." Bree went through something!<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-13 17:03:53</i><br /><hr />Does anyone really know what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction?  So, stop moaning that this one vid didn't give you all the answers.  The story isn't over yet, and in them not giving too much information, we can take satisfaction that the story will continue and will give us more storyline/answers (unless the creators really are sadistic and decide that the dressing on her arm is because she scratched it in the woods, the ceremony was just her and her mates having a party, and Daniel is just someone that the not-so-lonely-girl has been 'extracting the urine' out of with all her popular-girl mates)<br /><i>by whateverwhatever on 2006-10-13 17:08:39</i><br /><hr />Sorry to have stepped out of the debate, there (got off work not too long ago an am cooling my heels *phfew*).  It's great to be on a forum with such individual, intelligent people. Reading your posts, even when we strongly disagree, is a real pleasure!! (although I agree, Lisa, that there's no need to get so vicious.)


rhemasan, you picked up on the "barnacle" tag and silkyworm continued with that... doing some peripheral research on that... you all probably have already come across the Wiki entry for "Barnacle", yes?  Does the picture kind of remind you of the "Alien" larvae??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnacle_(Half-Life)

And this is rather disturbing: "Physically, barnacles resemble little more than a large mouth full of sharp teeth and a thin, but long and very powerful muscular hydrostat combining the functions of a tongue and tentacle, which can be retracted or extended to hang at near-floor level regardless of the animal's height from the floor."

My imagination is going out in left field (I guess I'm not as done with this story as I thought)... maybe Bree was "impregnated" with some kind of creature's seed, so that it can be reborn and continue on.

"<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 17:11:36</i><br /><hr />From Wikipedia: "A barnacle is a type of arthropod belonging to infraclass Cirripedia in the subphylum Crustacea and is hence distantly related to crabs and lobsters. "

Now, wasn;t crustacea a tag in a previous video?<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 17:13:24</i><br /><hr />Umm that bandage is not the location where blood is drawn. Blood is usually drawn from the crook in your arm where it bends. Her band-aid is on a muscle where an injection of something would be given. DUHHHH!!!<br /><i>by lilstar143 on 2006-10-13 17:13:28</i><br /><hr />Oh, yeah otter, right ____  the vlog three weeks from now will be Bree with terrible morning sickness.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-13 17:13:50</i><br /><hr />Lisa, if we were in a court of law you would definitely win the case. However we are in a fictional world, and in this context brainwashing and Stockholm's syndrome as wikipedia describes it seems a possibility. The other possibility is as you suggest that the ceremony was benign, and Bree is in no danger at all. All we can do is wait and see were the story goes.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-13 17:16:43</i><br /><hr />Oooo.....<br /><i>by Jonneh on 2006-10-13 17:17:16</i><br /><hr />I could be wrong but isn't one of the creators of LG15 also the creator of "The God Movie"?

http://www.thegodmovie.com/clip-Trailer.php

If so, then I have a feeling that this is just one more media project that is "anti-religion".  I get the feeling that the guy that made The God Movie feels that religion is just a crutch for the weak minded.

Brian Flemming is very "anti-religion".  I don't know if he's just against Judeo-Christian and Islamic religions or if he's against all religions.  Or maybe he's a Satanist or an Atheist.  Who knows.  Anyway, I found this interesting:  

http://www.rationalresponders.com/the_god_who_wasnt_there

"Brian Flemming creator of the God Movie has co-oped with us so that we can sell the movie to you and earn money for the Rational Response Squad at the same time."

Rational Response Squad's motto is, "Fighting To Free Humanity From The Mind Disorder Known As Theism".

For those of you who don't know what Theism is, it is the belief in one God.

Also at the Rational Response Squad's web site you will see a link to their "War On Easter"

http://www.waroneaster.org/  

And their link to "War On Christmas"

http://www.endchristmas.com/ -- 

"...Our war efforts involve going to Christian churches and placing "The God Who Wasn't There" DVD's in or around the properties. Our goal is to encourage Christians to view this movie with the hope that they will begin to question the validity of their erroneous beliefs. We place thought provoking flyers, and educate the public on the true origins of the Christmas holiday season (nothing to do with Christ)."

I'm wondering if this whole Lonelygirl15 is just a creative attempt at hooking people in with a great Internet story and getting them to give up their belief in God and religion or at least get people to question their beliefs.

But, like I said, I could be wrong.  And, if I am, I apologize to Brian Flemming and all the others involved in the making of Lonelygirl15.

Regardless of whether or not this is an attempt to bad mouth religion and God, I'm still going to watch it to the end because I'm just really curious as to what happens.  Plus, it is pretty good.  It's done in an entertaining and creative way and I think Jessica Rose is charming.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-13 17:17:37</i><br /><hr />thank you, silyworm, for picking up on the barnacle thing!  otter, i DID see that image and it was all too reminiscent of the zodiac as well.  

your description was creepy... i completely agree with silkyworm, i think Bree deffinately went through something.  i don't know about impregnation but hey!  

we don't know a lot of things!

so frustrating. haha.

but all this research/debate/discussion has been really fun...<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 17:18:05</i><br /><hr />3 weeks - my F5 button will be well and truly broken by then!<br /><i>by whateverwhatever on 2006-10-13 17:19:32</i><br /><hr />Why, robtomorrow--117? Lisa was the only one who got irrational and she didn't support her case, except with her alleged credentials.

robtomorrow = Lisa 
......

I think the tags (crustacean, barnacle) are just out there. The kind of stuff you put there when you're typing up HTML or PHP and want to identify your different links. They don't really relate to the plot.<br /><i>by don_quixote on 2006-10-13 17:24:03</i><br /><hr />INCANTATION???  Sounds like a secret vampire society I once knew of.<br /><i>by Me on 2006-10-13 17:27:14</i><br /><hr />Engaged to be Married#120 Sorry you are wrong, Brian Flemming has nothing to do with LG15, that was a rumour at a time before the Creators came out.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-13 17:28:12</i><br /><hr />This video was really anti-climactic.  Maybe the creators are actually social psychologists conducting a big experiment on how people naturally assume the worst (i.e. Bree will die, be brutally gang raped, whatever) even when there's no real evidence pointing to a horrific outcome... call me sick, but I'm kind of disappointed that nothing seems to have happened.  I mean... what's the mystery now?<br /><i>by crazyspoonhead on 2006-10-13 17:29:05</i><br /><hr />Shes alive. Boooooo. I had money on you dieing.<br /><i>by Toxic on 2006-10-13 17:29:58</i><br /><hr />I think Joe320 is on to something. The twist is about to come. Daniel will disappear. Or maybe - enter Cassie, stage left!

The conflict from here on out is to get the old Bree back.<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-10-13 17:30:23</i><br /><hr />They have left clues in the tags before......so they are very likely to be clues.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 17:32:17</i><br /><hr />Engaged to be Married (120) that was a FANTASTIC idea, and would have really helped our case!!!! except that robtomorrow says that it's not true... bah... oh well.  ;)  it was still awesome tho!<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 17:33:28</i><br /><hr />don_quixote #123 I was being a little facetious, I was  obliquely agreeing with otter, and the rest.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-13 17:34:27</i><br /><hr />More from "out in left field"... I found this PubMed entry:
"The barnacles (Crustacea, Cirripedia) consist of three well-defined orders: the conventional filter-feeding barnacles (Thoracica), the burrowing barnacles (Acrothoracica), and the parasitic barnacles (Rhizocephala). Thoracica and Acrothoracica feed by catching food particles from the surrounding seawater using their thoracic appendages while members of Rhizocephala are exclusively parasitic."

And later it mentions "innoculation":
"The mode of host inoculation found in the suborder Akentrogonida, where the last pelagic larval stage directly injects the parasitic material into the heamolymph of the host is derived, and has evolved only once within the Rhizocephala. "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&amp;list_uids=16876443&amp;cmd=Retrieve&amp;indexed=google<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 17:36:03</i><br /><hr />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incantation<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 17:36:17</i><br /><hr />Sorry, robtomorrow--131. My 'wry humor filters' were on, unfortunately.  Now I'm chuckling along with you.<br /><i>by don_quixote on 2006-10-13 17:38:29</i><br /><hr />Glad everything went well Bree! Good job at ignoring Daniel.<br /><i>by Carrotgirl on 2006-10-13 17:40:03</i><br /><hr />This episode is 0051.

0051 = SOBA in Gematria.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:JmVlMFfmZDoJ:www.skepticfiles.org/mys2/enochgem.htm+0051+gematria&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=2

Soba is an enochian word that Crwoley used in an invocation.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:7C6b2hXt5DgJ:altreligion.about.com/library/texts/bl_enochiancalls17.htm+SOBA+crowley&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=2

The other attributions to 0051 in Gematria are Bagile, Cla, and Mabza.  Okay, friends: Tag! You're it! :-)<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 17:44:56</i><br /><hr />yeah, barnacles.  they take hosts, eh?  creepier by the minute.  

I think Sharp and Joe are right... at least i REALLY hope so.  because even though this is all still very interesting, it's getting to be monotonous and depressing.  so very dark and... "nya nya nya nya nya nya, we're still leaving you haaaanging"

the ceremony was a disapointment, at least i wish there had been more clues in there for us to play around with, like today's video blog inspired.  but hey i'm sure the producers are smart and know what they're doing.

you know how, when it all came out that Bree was a fake, the Creators said that they were letting the story evolve with the audience?

and supposedly, us audience is the only reason that there was the whole bree/daniel/likingeachother conflict.

how much of this, do you think, is a product of ours (and others) freaking out about Bree's religion being a satanic cult?

except that, the shrine was always in her room... and i know that this plot always existed.

so did we effect this ceremony and recent events AT ALL?

i'm starting to think that it's all talk, about us influencing the outcome of the show.<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 17:47:12</i><br /><hr />Engaged to be Married#120 &amp; rhemasan#130 The Creators of LG15 are Miles Beckett, 28, a Web-obsessed medical school dropout; Mesh Flinders, 26, a screenwriter; and Greg Goodfried, a 27-year-old lawyer.

Not Brian Flemming<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-13 17:48:24</i><br /><hr />If you check YouTube, Daniels vid is not there, so in theory, Bree doesn t know about it....Hmmmm<br /><i>by Naxan on 2006-10-13 17:48:42</i><br /><hr />*aaargh* anytime links are added, the post hangs in "moderate". so I'll describe it...
More research:  Google the two words (together) 0051 gematria.  
Take the 2nd link... the most interesting attribution to 0051, the number of this episode, is SOBA.
Google SOBA crowley, and take the first link "enochian calls".  It shows that Crowley used an invocation in which the enochian word 'Soba'  was one of the words.<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 17:49:55</i><br /><hr />hey, just wondering if someone could fill me in on who cassie is and where i can find links to her etc?<br /><i>by meg on 2006-10-13 17:55:22</i><br /><hr />robtomorrow- yeah i know, i totally acknowledged that.  i was just trying to give Engaged to be Married some support and encouragement!  I thought it was way cool that he/she put the effort into researching.  :)

otter- man!  that's interesting!  you do the best research, i love it.  

A MESSAGE to ALL-  

let's really try to be supportive of everyone in here!  we don't have too much to go on, so of course we're gonna come up with all kinds of off-the-wall ideas.  that's the fun of it!  :)  no reason to get pissy.  let's use the clues we have, and run with them.<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 17:56:25</i><br /><hr />rhemasan you wrote [[how much of this, do you think, is a product of ours (and others) freaking out about Breeâ€™s religion being a satanic cult?]]
*whoa* excellent question. How much are they riffing off of us? Is this forum and the vlogs like a living example of karma?
What would happen if we started posting all love nad light and "Daniel is cuuuute. Does Yousef have a girrlfriend" (he is cute but I wouldn't normally post like that LOL!).
Well... I guess that there is a happy medium between dark and cult-focused posts and bubble-gum, and that, I'm sure, is what you were getting at, rhemasan!!<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 17:56:56</i><br /><hr />could she have been impregnated with the next virgin child?  Maybe prenatal vitamins and hormone shots like someone else said to boost her ovulation for the right time and now to make sure the pg sticks!  The diet doesn't make sense though unless it is just for health and not weight loss.  perhaps lots of fish to boost intelligence?<br /><i>by jezzabelle on 2006-10-13 17:59:00</i><br /><hr />Oh Bree! I'm so glad it went well!<br /><i>by bubbleteagirl on 2006-10-13 17:59:42</i><br /><hr />Yes rhemasan #136, I agree - we are not influencing the show all that much. They have to be shooting well ahead or it's craazzee-making on them. They have hooks they certainly intend to use (Cassie) and have intended it from the beginning.

But do they read these boards? You bet. Do the comments make a diff? They would if I were writing this show. You won't see the effect for a while, however.<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-10-13 17:59:48</i><br /><hr />good GOD this is boooring.

maybe it'll get gory and they kill the Daniel character or take him hostage or something.

this seems to be sputtering out. okay, back to Youtube, and...the next distraction.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-10-13 18:02:44</i><br /><hr />what about daniel?

Do you have to keep getting the shots? and keep on the same diet?

What happened in the ceremony?
I heard that there were going to be purity sacrafices taking place and that's why there were bodyguards.<br /><i>by Tanya on 2006-10-13 18:05:13</i><br /><hr />Oh My goodness....what the? I guess I will watch the video.<br /><i>by Roo on 2006-10-13 18:11:13</i><br /><hr />I like your thinking jezzabelle #142. Its' a good theory especially since the pills are iron, like she's trying to build up her health.  The diet might just be restrictive in that she can't have sugar and salt, etc., but not restrictive in nutrition.<br /><i>by CinnamonSun on 2006-10-13 18:12:49</i><br /><hr />That's it? All that build up and all we get is Bree saying everything is peachy? Let's have some action people! A little intrigue! You have to give us some answers as well as clues, or the story becomes stale.<br /><i>by Luckydog1826 on 2006-10-13 18:16:42</i><br /><hr />More from searches on the Enochian word 'soba':
(be ready to turn down your speakers' volume)
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:8ddD8r2CJPQJ:us.geocities.com/greatdessert/Calls.html+soba+enochian&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=2
"Here presented to you are the 48 Enochian Keys (the 19th Key is comprised of 30 calls/keys).  These keys were given to Dr. John Dee and Edward Kelley and it opens the connection to the angels."<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 18:16:50</i><br /><hr />Friday the Thirteenth: 700 years ago
The day of Friday the Thirteenth, 1307, which began so uneventfully, was the beginning of one of the world's most enduring mysteries, and one of its greatest tragedies. On that morning, Philippe le Bel, the King of France, in collusion with the Pope, gave orders for the arrest of over one hundred knights of the Order of the Temple, on charges of heresy. Over the next seven years, dozens were tortured, tried, and executed. Many more were imprisoned. The Grand Master of the order, Jacques De Molay, was broken and burned at the stake. 
The Knights Templar and the original "unlucky day" 

(The Golden Dawn was very much about teh Knights Templar and Masons)<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 18:21:31</i><br /><hr />Luckydog, she's _saying everything is peachy, but just look at her. How much of a roadmap do you need?<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-10-13 18:21:39</i><br /><hr />Friday the Thirteenth: 700 years ago
The day of Friday the Thirteenth, 1307, which began so uneventfully, was the beginning of one of the world's most enduring mysteries, and one of its greatest tragedies. On that morning, Philippe le Bel, the King of France, in collusion with the Pope, gave orders for the arrest of over one hundred knights of the Order of the Temple, on charges of heresy. Over the next seven years, dozens were tortured, tried, and executed. Many more were imprisoned. The Grand Master of the order, Jacques De Molay, was broken and burned at the stake. 
The Knights Templar and the original "unlucky day" 

Hmmm "Knights Templar" (think Golden Dawn)<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 18:23:23</i><br /><hr />The "black eye" was there in the last video too.  I think they are trying to make her look tired or have dark circles under her eyes.<br /><i>by Jeff2009 on 2006-10-13 18:25:29</i><br /><hr />robtomorrow (post #125),

Thanks for the correction.  Hm...why did I hear that Brian Flemming was part of the LG15 creative group?  Where in the world did I get that from???  I just remember hearing it, but don't remember where.  Anyway, thanks for the correction and I do apologize to the LG15 folks and anyone else if I've offended anyone.

"The creators identified themselves to The Associated Press as Miles Beckett, 28, of Woodland Hills, Calif.; Mesh Flinders, 26, of Petaluma, Calif., and Greg Goodfried, 27, of Los Angeles." -- Taken from an article on MSNBC:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14816502/

In a way I'm glad that Brian Flemming isn't part of this.

rhemasan (post #139), thanks for the support.

"...I thought it was way cool that he/she put the effort into researching."  

Well, I goofed, I didn't research enough so that I could confirm whether or not Brian Flemming was a part of the LG15 project.  Shame on me!  I usually get my facts straight.  Twenty lashes with a wet noodle for me!

rhemasan, as for the "he/she" thing, I'm a woman, not that it really matters what I am.  Hey, I could be a purple monkey, LOL!<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-13 18:28:18</i><br /><hr />AHMANITE III(# Multiples): Division in the body caused by the presence of PARASITIC life sucking off its host

http://essenes.net/gem6.html<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 18:37:31</i><br /><hr />We have all waited long enough and all we have ever gotten was a hint here and a hint there but it's going to get very boring if they dont ever show what they are hinting at!  Show me a severed head or a crazy sacrafice by bree.  I have faith in these writers but im sad to say ive been kind of disappointed lately.  For a climax i find myself going back and watching the videos of the past that at least could start to make me laugh.  If your gonna go into drama, you might want to start by adding, oh I dont know, some drama?<br /><i>by Matteo432 on 2006-10-13 18:49:26</i><br /><hr />Hey, Engaged, congratulations (if you are indeed to be Married)<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-10-13 18:49:32</i><br /><hr />I love watching the posts and I'm always here for new ones, but something needs to be done here. These past few videos give the audience nothing to go off of, not even enough to let their minds wonder. Give us a little information!!! please? Bree you look skinny, tired, weak, your eyes are black, you have holes in your shoulder and you 'feel like a new person' due to these 'elders'. Why is Lucy being sent away?<br /><i>by baby blue26 on 2006-10-13 18:50:27</i><br /><hr />Engaged to be Married, CONGRATS!!!! you purple monkey yooou :D :D :D

otter- i loved the bit about Friday the 13th 700 years ago.  again... incredibly interesting.  food for thought.

everyone- like someone said, I'm positive the writers/producers/creators of this show are reading the forums and the comments on the videos.  undoubtedly.  BUT has anyone wondered yet... if there are members of the Lonelygirl15 production team who are sent to post comments on these boards to lead our speculations in one way or another?

seriously... i don't know... do you think that sometimes the Creators have people come in here and try to direct the conversation?<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-13 19:00:16</i><br /><hr />Maybe Lucy is dead and Hathor spirited her to the afterworld.

http://www.purgingtalon.com/nlm/worldmyth/egyptian.htm<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 19:05:02</i><br /><hr />Hey guys. I just woke up from a nap, and I thought I'd check out what everyone thought about what I said about the ceremony. It's obvious that you're all really worried about me, but I promise I'm fine. I've learned that being the person you're meant to be means making sacrifices. I've definitely had to do that, but I've also gained a lot. So don't worry about me. I'm better than I've ever been.<br /><i>by Bree on 2006-10-13 19:08:02</i><br /><hr />"The Blood Ritual" is also a ritual created by L. Ron Hubbard that invokes the Egyptian goddess Hathor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_ritual<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 19:13:14</i><br /><hr />talk about daniel what the hell.<br /><i>by Lindsey on 2006-10-13 19:13:43</i><br /><hr />"One controversial aspect of Hubbard's early life revolves around his association with Jack Parsons, an aeronautics professor at Caltech and an associate of the British occultist Aleister Crowley."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 19:16:42</i><br /><hr />maybe she's been impregnated by like some crazy enochian elder guy. she said she's got to be more responsible.<br /><i>by stacey on 2006-10-13 19:17:45</i><br /><hr />bree is a schizo.....<br /><i>by ladyladylady on 2006-10-13 19:18:58</i><br /><hr />Am I the only person that is relieved that Bree is still alive?  So many of you are BOOING the lg15 series because Bree wasn't kidnapped, raped, murdered and then fed to satan worshippers.  What is wrong with you people?  If you are bored then you should take your ritalin for your A.D.D.    

I am quite confident that there is something big coming.<br /><i>by Penny on 2006-10-13 19:19:15</i><br /><hr />Now that you've completed the ceremony you should order a Dominoes pizza with crispy crust and devour it. Yum, yum.  You're plenty thin, so enjoy.<br /><i>by Jim on 2006-10-13 19:22:11</i><br /><hr />Penny, #170, I think I know what the problem is.  If they build the tension and go in the direction of sacraficing her, then it gets exciting.  But if she's dead, the series is over.  If Daniel saved her, that would have been great.  Then they could build on that.

On the other hand if they never reach a climax, then people get bored as well.  So the only way I could think of is if they keep enhancing the story and take them to new places..  Sort of like the adventures of Bree and Daniel.

But it would have to keep expanding and the romance would have to stay alive.

Getting back to the way it is now, I'm not sure what they can do with it.  It may be possible that we will discover that Bree starts acting more and more wierd, and she starts to deteriorate.  Then Daniel could save her from that?

One way or another there seems to be the need for a clear motive behind it.  I'm still having fun watching.  I especially liked the scene with Daniel following her through the woods.  I sort of wish they would have stretched that out for 3 or 4 episodes though..  We'll see.<br /><i>by Jim on 2006-10-13 19:29:56</i><br /><hr />Yea, well if she is impregnated she would be carrying the "Moonchild":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonchild

Now, that could be interesting.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 19:32:07</i><br /><hr />LOL Jim (171) good idea!.. Large with the Works (but hold the anchovies)!

Wow modelmotion you are digging for gold and finding nuggets of it!  The link with L. Ron Hubbard harks back to ealier discussion... remember someone(s) mention Scientology?

rhemasan I agree that the Creators/Writers read the forum... they had Daniel mention something he read in the forum at least twice, to let us know we're not reaching deaf ears.  Your thought about them posting a comment now and then to direct (or distract) people's train of thought is really interesting!!  Perhaps Mr.CBV (who posts things such as Mr.CBV Says: 
October 12th, 2006 at 5:05 am 
Congratulations Bree! Lucy is a very good friend indeed. Forget about the silly boy. He knows nothing.)<br /><i>by otter on 2006-10-13 19:39:29</i><br /><hr />#173 modelmotion I think you're onto something!!<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-13 19:41:57</i><br /><hr />Uhg!  It keeps saying unable to load video try again later.  I want to see!!!<br /><i>by Tracy on 2006-10-13 19:46:41</i><br /><hr />I think OTTER is onto something.  Interesting theory  Otter!<br /><i>by Penny on 2006-10-13 19:47:00</i><br /><hr />ugh really i dont know what to say...i have no new theories...hi otter hi rob...<br /><i>by DaraLynnie on 2006-10-13 19:48:33</i><br /><hr />please someone give me some info on this cassie thing!<br /><i>by meg on 2006-10-13 19:53:25</i><br /><hr />cool top 200<br /><i>by SillyWilly on 2006-10-13 19:54:09</i><br /><hr />you know if they really do read our comments, someone should have written last night "Stay up just a little later, I'm sure it'll come soon" and then I would have stayed up, haha.<br /><i>by scholarbowlchicka on 2006-10-13 19:57:29</i><br /><hr />http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php/Cassieiswatching<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 19:57:39</i><br /><hr />ahhhhh when is this going to pick up???

and what's that hing on Bree's arm?<br /><i>by Sam on 2006-10-13 20:06:25</i><br /><hr />I think they're giving Bree fertility drugs. Why else would she get all those injections and have to take pills. I'm on to you guys!  Watch out Bree, don't get impregnated.<br /><i>by Caryn on 2006-10-13 20:09:32</i><br /><hr />hey guys, yousef is online right now according to myspace.  Maybe that means a new video!<br /><i>by scholarbowlchicka on 2006-10-13 20:14:12</i><br /><hr />So...how about this...bree goes looking for daniel to make amends, can't find him (maybe only finds a vlog he leaves behind)?  then the search for daniel begins as the new story line.  And it all comes down to the ceremony people did something to him.  

Dumb?  already thought of (I haven't read all the posts)?  Or just a silly thought?  I dont' know.<br /><i>by onlyforasec on 2006-10-13 20:23:09</i><br /><hr />thanks!<br /><i>by meg on 2006-10-13 20:23:36</i><br /><hr />sharpl (post #161) and rhemasan (post #163),

Thanks!  Yes, I am getting married.  December 10th.  Then we leave on our honeymoon the next morning and I won't have access to a computer for eight days.  Heaven help me if I can't get my daily LG15 fix!  I understand that the LG15 series is supposed to end in December.  I sure hope it doesn't end and disappear while I'm on my honeymoon.  And hope there isn't an interesting post by Bree or Daniel while I'm gone.  Maybe I can try and find a cyber cafe on our honeymoon.

Anyway, thanks all for the well wishes.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-13 20:24:03</i><br /><hr />what else though
is she still getting shots or something?
I wanted to know more!
&gt;_<br /><i>by Elyse on 2006-10-13 20:26:46</i><br /><hr />They need to stop all this cult stuff and get back to the type of videos this was when it all began...its way to confusing and wierd now<br /><i>by Brian on 2006-10-13 20:42:49</i><br /><hr />scholarbowlchicka i hope you are right about the new post coming!! im totally bored stupid!!!<br /><i>by DaraLynnie on 2006-10-13 20:44:17</i><br /><hr />Lucy=Lucifer and y'all know what that means..the devil<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-13 20:46:24</i><br /><hr />you're bored stupid? You could watch a really cute boy from a the-n show...<br /><i>by scholarbowlchicka on 2006-10-13 20:49:35</i><br /><hr />guys if u look back we only saw her with total two shots in her arm so two times cant be all that bad, people give blood all the time..if that is infact what shes doing for that "Ceremony" alot of you seem to be hot on the trail as to what is going on and i for one can't wait to see whos dead on...<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-13 20:50:22</i><br /><hr />ok, so judgeing by the gause pad on her arm, and her comment about maybe feeling weak, i'm guess that they took a lot opf blood out of her for the ceramony. its one thing to have some sort of weird religion that practices weird things, but its another to actually practice self/imposed mutilation. i'm jumpin on the boat with the rest of you, she is brainwashed and somone needs to save her, preferabley daniel, the only one that really does care about her well being.<br /><i>by Tony on 2006-10-13 20:56:20</i><br /><hr />I want Bree to put the picture of her family back up.<br /><i>by scholarbowlchicka on 2006-10-13 20:59:04</i><br /><hr />She doesnt look good at all!!! She was so much happier when she was with daniel! she was actually being a kid! I hope she can snap back to reality!!<br /><i>by Vigideo on 2006-10-13 21:01:00</i><br /><hr />as it has already been stated before NUMEROUS times, it seems stupid to point it out yet again, but it appears to be necessary to do so...<b>YOU DONT GIVE/DRAW BLOOD FROM THE MUSCLE WHERE HER GAUZE PAD IS!!!!</b> You give and draw blood from the crook of the arm (that would be inner elbow kids...) where there is a large vein present. You give SHOTS in the muscle in pretty much the exact location where the gauze pad is...

scholar, what really cute boy from the n-show? what is the n-show? I'm lost...<br /><i>by DaraLynnie on 2006-10-13 21:02:10</i><br /><hr />there's a show on the-n called south of nowhere.  His real name is matt cohen and he's so cute.<br /><i>by scholarbowlchicka on 2006-10-13 21:04:15</i><br /><hr />im sorry... just a little bit annoyed at some people as you can most likely tell<br /><i>by DaraLynnie on 2006-10-13 21:04:41</i><br /><hr />the n...meaning noggin...(thats what it is called during the day when we watch it at my house...) i dont think i want to talk to celeb boys...i'm probably too old and married for him anyway<br /><i>by DaraLynnie on 2006-10-13 21:06:22</i><br /><hr />depending on how old you are I suppose.  You don't talk to him anyway.  You just marvel at the beauty.  Haha.  How old are you?<br /><i>by scholarbowlchicka on 2006-10-13 21:13:01</i><br /><hr />CREATORS... don't listen to the people saying it's too boring. As artists you have no obligation to please the masses. If you truly care about this project keep doing what YOU think is interesting, or else it will become noticably fake.

Because that is what this is - a piece of art, just like any other movie or tv series is. I don't really see how the acting is bad because it's supposed to seem like REAL kids talking to a webcam, and real kids don't speak flawlessly articulate and they don't sound like their reading clear, scripted dialogue (which I know this is but they've written it in a realisticly choppy way, as well as improvising on the actors' parts). As well, you've done a good job at not giving the characters one dimensional traits - people have complained that their personality seems to change too much, but real people are complex and teenagers have mood swings.

I'm just worried the people involved are going to be discouraged by negative comments made by people who seem to just want fluff. I find this interesting and has a good variety of atmosphere. People, please, if you're going to comment negatively or positively, make it constructive and educated.

Good job Creators. DO NOT COP OUT AND GIVE THEM THE SIMPLE FLUFF CRAP THEY WANT!<br /><i>by blah on 2006-10-13 21:13:31</i><br /><hr />DaraLynnie#194 I agree with you about not drawing blood from the shoulder muscle, you also don't inject psychoactive drugs there either. What kind of injection DO you get on the shoulder? flu shots, tetanus I think, what esle?<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-13 21:15:36</i><br /><hr />OK, if she is getting shots......what kinda shots would fit the plot?<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-13 21:16:35</i><br /><hr />I had the feeling from early on that there would be a Halloween theme to this, and that the real climax of the story wouldn't happen till the end of the month.  Wasn't Halloweeen celebrated by Crowley and co?

Daniel's vid was only posted 2 hours before this one.  Maybe the idea is that Bree had just missed his when she was tired and making her own movie?  Maybe she'll respond to his tomorrow?

I agree with Lisa, it seemed a little rash to be jumping on the Stockholm Syndrome bandwagon and you guys bashed her first for just being sceptical.  IMHO.

I like the ideas on barnacles.  Gotta think about them...<br /><i>by cyberpilot888 on 2006-10-13 21:22:16</i><br /><hr />Hi, 
I was just reading up on Aleister Crowley, daniel has been pronouncing it wrong by the way.  The Crow in Crowley is pronounced like the bird, just for the future.  I've been following bree's story for a while now, and it's pretty well done for some youtube show.  However, the whole daniel following her to the ceremony, and the hiding behind the bush, and him running away from the flashlights, was really pushing it.  But to each there own, I bet alot of people liked it, but for something we know is fake, it sucks to be reminded by the cheesy action and the bad acting. ( on daniel's part not bree).  Anywho, I enjoy your video's, just wanted to leave a comment.  Keep it up with the whole Aleister Crowley thing, it's pretty cool how all the hints from the beggining are falling into place.  Well thaught of!! (I really like how the ratings from the cookie episode 10-12-06, was the date of the ceremony and all that.  And the picture of Aleister Crowley in the background.)  Does this mean Bree is into drugs though, because on Aleister's webpage it says he was really into astronomy, hicking, sex and drugs.  We already know from the previous episodes that bree was really into astronomy and hicking, so what does this leave us with?? 
Keep those vids coming!!<br /><i>by Julie on 2006-10-13 21:26:24</i><br /><hr />BTW, in #49 Bree mentions the inoculations (along with the diet and the pills).  So the place on her arm was definitely not for drawing blood.

The other post where she had the bandage on her arm was "In the Park."  Did she look especially loopy in that one?  Does the inoculation do something to her?<br /><i>by cyberpilot888 on 2006-10-13 21:36:03</i><br /><hr />This one kinda bummed me out.
I'd really hoped this would be climactic and informative and exciting, but it...I dunno. I'm tired of researching mysteries. I just wanna watch and go, 'Wow.'
 There was no wow factor.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-10-13 21:38:06</i><br /><hr />scholar- ok im not THAT old, i'm actually quite young, i'm 25

rob- most immunizations are given via the arm or thigh, either spot give the same result, they just need to be injected into a nice thick muscle. I believe fertility shots are given in the hip not 100% sure on this though.

model- i think it was the last vid that i said my guess was she was recieving imunization boosters, perhaps her ceremony required that she be 100% healthy and the elders felt it necessary that she recive all shots again. a lot of home schooled children's parents choose to not immunize and rely on what is called "herd immunity" basically hoping all of us immunize so their kids are safe. this is totally a guess, but it does fit in a round about way to some of the more viable theories we have had<br /><i>by DaraLynnie on 2006-10-13 21:50:53</i><br /><hr />Immunizations don't seem they would advance the plot, and you wouldn't need to give a 16 y.o. girl fertility shots, she would be plenty fertile already. There must be something else.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-13 22:00:28</i><br /><hr />no, you're not that old.  I'm only four years behind you. :-)<br /><i>by scholarbowlchicka on 2006-10-13 22:13:18</i><br /><hr />k w/e guys u figure out the stupid shots then ppl can say w/e comment they liek just there opinions others dont  gotta get all testy..so somthign has allready been said who cares could be old whos gonna read through every sigle post to make sure it hasnt been said..ya ...noone so get over it<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-13 22:13:23</i><br /><hr />I must say, I'm a little bit frustrated. While I always kept the possibilites open for the ceremony I was dissapointed by the lack of... everything. Nothing has happened since Bree went to the Equinox with her parents, and that is a bit of a bummer. 

Maybe she'll get kidnapped by Tom Cruise or something... but other than that, I can't think of anything that would really keep my attention for much longer. 

Creators: Your audience is most likely a younger group of kids. Think high school and college. Remember those years? The DRAMA? They like drama- and I recommend adding some instead of using what is supposed to be some form of suspense. =)<br /><i>by Psh... on 2006-10-13 22:28:45</i><br /><hr />All wind-up and no pitch.<br /><i>by Watcher on 2006-10-13 22:35:44</i><br /><hr />wow people in here are being mean!
no need for pissy little people acting grumpy and bitchy.
we only need NICE people in here.

JESSICA: I take your side. I dont ever read all the comments either. i really dont think anyone does.

SOOO in conclusion: TAKE A CHILL PILL PEEPS. DONT GET YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH.<br /><i>by YayForMeImMakingOut on 2006-10-13 22:44:46</i><br /><hr />She seems reluctant, uncomfortable, and unconvincing  in this video.  The words coming out of her mouth are supposed to convey understanding and happiness, but she doesn't express these happy words with even the slightest bit of joy.  Note the face she makes right after she says, "I'm feeling great."<br /><i>by Cold Toes on 2006-10-13 22:50:48</i><br /><hr />They cut open her arm and put in batteries.<br /><i>by Shereef on 2006-10-13 22:54:59</i><br /><hr />I must say that I agree that all the speculation is getting a little tedious, I was expecting a major revelation or at least a leap in the advancement of the plot by now. Good fiction doesn't just keep leaving you hanging and guessing.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-13 23:00:37</i><br /><hr />I used to check this site every day to see if the next vid was up yet. By the time I checked this time, there were four up I hadn't seen.

This cult thing stretches believability too far without anything credible to back it up. All the old bits- proving science wrong, puppets, silliness- seemed to have fallen away to leave only the soap opera element behind. Only it's not the sweet, dopey love story it started out to be, now it's turned into "Passions." What next? P monkey is possessed by a demon and tries to sacrifice Bree to the devil? Then maybe Daniel can ineffectually stalk her once more and manage to do nothing but wiggle the camera and puff noisily yet again. Cause that was just AWESOME. 

And every time I see this cult stuff thrown in our faces instead of cleverly hinted at in the context of the silly video blog we were used to, I sigh for the lack of finesse. Come on, guys. This started out so funny and clever. BACK TO BASICS!!!<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-10-13 23:34:02</i><br /><hr />Definitely a MAJOR letdown. Nothing about Daniels video. No big secret to keep us locked in. Just.. talking about nothing important. I am highly disappointed, I spent a fair few hours waiting for this ceremony and this is what we get afterwards? This is extremely disappointing. I hope something happens soon, cause as it is now, the story is getting boring and with Daniel's horrible acting as of late, the whole thing is going down the drain.<br /><i>by Obelisk on 2006-10-13 23:37:15</i><br /><hr />Daniel you need to save her.  Save her from what? Something bad is going to happen to bree in the ceremony. Yeah right.<br /><i>by steadman on 2006-10-14 00:25:28</i><br /><hr />Okay i was so dissappointed that her purity was not taken away from her during the ceremony.<br /><i>by John J on 2006-10-14 00:26:25</i><br /><hr />In wikipedia on O.T.O(Ordo Templi Orientis, Crowley's religion) the Thelema mysticism has its magicians astral travel to the abyss( a strange void linked to the gap in thought between the real and the unreal, as lucy said  her imagianary friends/imagination was good), a "perilous operation"(why she's so tired?) and if successful confers graduation to the degree of "Master of the Temple". So maybe bree is now a master hence the more responsibility. Any thoughts on this?<br /><i>by donga on 2006-10-14 00:36:09</i><br /><hr />rrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

Please give us another video and more info!!!  

The thing that sucks here is that it's only like 1-3 minutes long every 1-3 days, and maybe that's the same as 30-60 min every week, but it's still so FREAKING FRUSTRATING!!!  

Give us something, huh?  Nobody here wants soap opera, and you know that, but maybe a move forward in the genius lonelygirl15 fashion, huh?  

We love you!  Creators, you have us around your pinkies, so treat us nicely, please???<br /><i>by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-14 00:54:40</i><br /><hr />OK? The film makers are go no where with the story it seems. It just gets more boring everyday. All that 9/12/06 crap for this? WOW, oh wait thats right its not fun anymore. Sorry. You have a site with thousands of viewers and you keep letting them down with these videos. It was ok at first we didn't know it was fake. Now that we know we want some more Hollywood type of stuff. I hope you're going someone with this and fast. I'm sure you can get plenty of better ideas for some users on here.<br /><i>by Lee on 2006-10-14 00:57:52</i><br /><hr />hopefully this theory hasnt already been discussed: what if daniel was captured at the ceremony and brees cult submitted his video for him (if the cult/religous group is as powerful as the producers have been letting on than they probably have been monitoring brees "vlogs" all along).. my reason for thinking this is because of the way daniels video ended.. if daniel submitted the vlog than why did he not put a comment at the end of the video when he got home safely? why would he just go home and post a video that just shows him being chased and then nothing, no eplantion of what happened after he got back to his car, or no follow up video for over 24 hours.. if anyone is still up following these comments (its pretty late, like 4:30 am eastern time) let me know your thoughts - poke away..<br /><i>by noob on 2006-10-14 01:31:14</i><br /><hr />Just an observation:

Video was posted on Friday the 13th

Coincidence?<br /><i>by Damian on 2006-10-14 01:34:02</i><br /><hr />First, you're freaks. The show has lost it's believable value and has been overdrawn to the point of it seriously sucking.  But that doesn't matter, does it?  No, it's all about gaining the viewers and the advertising from the traffic you get.  Pathetic. One question?  Are you intentionally trying to make this cult look good so people become more open to 'alternative religions'.  Sick.<br /><i>by Tim on 2006-10-14 01:55:51</i><br /><hr />I demand a big reveal - they've been building up this ceremony for AGES and then it just kinda fizzled.

C'mon guys - don't you think it's about time you told us what's going on here? And not simply confirming stuff we've already figured out?<br /><i>by Camo1000 on 2006-10-14 02:44:36</i><br /><hr />You are the most amazing person I have ever listened to on the net.  You are Beatiful, charmimg and many other thing I couls write a book about.  Keep on with what you are doing, I am very impressed with you and your actions.  I hope you may e-mail me and we can chat person to person.<br /><i>by Scott on 2006-10-14 02:55:59</i><br /><hr />She really doesn't look too healthy, there will be more to come, drug-wise. She also doesn't look really happy, her soul is tainted!<br /><i>by Robert on 2006-10-14 02:57:35</i><br /><hr />As for mispronouncing Crowley, think about it:  If Daniel knows so little about him that he has to go do a Yahoo-Search to find out, likely he'll do what lots of other people do:  mispronounce the name.  I think it would have been suspicious if he HAD pronounced it correctly.

As for Bree, maybe she's going to mutate or something.  Maybe the nightmare is only beginning!

Or maybe, maybe ... it's a benign religion after all and we're just paranoid psychos like Danny!<br /><i>by crispy on 2006-10-14 03:14:09</i><br /><hr />One other thing ... has anyone else noticed that this seems to be the only video in the series where there is a black space between two of the cuts?

They typically do the vlog in short 'takes' or 'cuts', with no fade or transition:  just a straight cut to the next segment.  But here, there's one place where there's a black space in the cut.  I haven't seen that before.  Weird.<br /><i>by crispy on 2006-10-14 03:18:14</i><br /><hr />1st of all i agree w/ number 88 
what's w/ the bandage and she seems weird
I think her religion is vampireity, lol
I still love u Bree!!!!<br /><i>by Laily on 2006-10-14 03:27:39</i><br /><hr />Lonelygirl15 is losing it's edge.

It's momentum came from it being new and fresh.
It was an original concept.
It was quirky and interesting.

It's losing that now.
It's 'Blair Witch' kind of tangent, is almost a parody of itself.

It's like when actors get so big that in real life they become a cartoon of themselves.
(I don't mean the actors in this, I mean actors per say.)

It needs to get back to what made it so good in the beginning, which will obviously be difficult now the actors have been 'outed'.

It has gone off course a little. Wanting to please the audience is one thing, but trying to please everyone, you could actually end up pleasing no one.

Originally it looked like it was going somewhere, unfortunately now it looks like it is meandering from one video to the next with no particular direction. 

Daniel stumbling around in the dark looking for a clue, was a perfect analogy for lonelirl15 at the moment.

Get back to what it was. Each episode was an entire story ark. It was punchy, quirky, and complete, while still having direction to grow.

I miss the original lonelygirl15. 

It's sad when when the comments become more interesting than the videos themselves.<br /><i>by chloe on 2006-10-14 03:37:21</i><br /><hr />Shereef rotflll!.

#218. Batteries indeed!<br /><i>by chloe on 2006-10-14 04:00:43</i><br /><hr />I dunno.  I think LG15 has become...unbelievable.  Seeing it now in its present form, I wouldn't be fooled that any of the characters are real.  The original LG15 was great, I even started talking to Bree and thought she was real for a long time.  Then I found this. Yeah, I concur with the guy up top, I think it jumped the shark. &gt;_<br /><i>by .:: [LtBrenton] ::. on 2006-10-14 04:16:55</i><br /><hr />yeah i agree.lets have something happen creators!!!!! i wanted this to be like a big bang..but now it's just..over? I love LonelyGirl15 but lets have something happen already!!<br /><i>by lonelygirl15 on 2006-10-14 05:06:06</i><br /><hr />I think I now enjoy reading the comments more than watching the vids! Lol.<br /><i>by rebelgoddess on 2006-10-14 05:12:23</i><br /><hr />See what have I been saying?  Its all good, Bree is happy and enjoying her religion, what could be better?

Also I agree with Lisa #82, its no different than a Bar Mitzvah,  or seeing as there is some form or discipline/injections, which are closer to medical proceedings maybe its a bit more like a Bris Milah.
Actually thats a little bit rank and I'll stop following that chain of thought.<br /><i>by Flaurius on 2006-10-14 05:18:13</i><br /><hr />Bindi (#78)... i totally agree with you. on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_Brethren they talk about many places bree has lived. Australia, England, New Zeland, and the US all have branches of this group.

hmmmm

once again heres the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_Brethren<br /><i>by huge fan on 2006-10-14 05:48:47</i><br /><hr />i also think they are dragging on the vids.<br /><i>by huge fan on 2006-10-14 05:50:28</i><br /><hr />All right, so the whole ceremony thing was pretty interesting and suspensful for a while... but how about getting back to good ol' hilarious Bree with her baking contests and proving science wrong. Now THAT is entertainment.<br /><i>by BCan on 2006-10-14 06:06:49</i><br /><hr />hey
you're beutifull
serios, if you live in Brasil, you will be the woman most wanted
I don't know why I write this
but you're so beatifull
Ok I live in Brasil
This is My msn, if you feel alone any time you write to my
my orkut:http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=10901155669583823492<br /><i>by AndrÃ© on 2006-10-14 06:07:07</i><br /><hr />Crispy #231: Finally someone else noticed what i've been thinking!  The way the vid is edited is  different to the rest of them...Things are done intentionally...look at earlier comments here about how she is praising the 'elders', has become all serious and didn't refer to Dan's vid...if she didn't edit it and it was posted by someone else then that might give a different perspective on what she is saying and the change in behaviour...<br /><i>by DRS on 2006-10-14 06:08:02</i><br /><hr />When she says that she's fine and great her expression says the complete opposite. Maybe she's trying to secretly call out to Daniel? Is he write and she's scared?<br /><i>by Sara on 2006-10-14 06:15:08</i><br /><hr />What the heck?? They beat the sh*t out of her! LoL, she needed it.<br /><i>by Adriann on 2006-10-14 06:19:43</i><br /><hr />http://qfresco.spaces.live.com/ wtf<br /><i>by FRESCO on 2006-10-14 06:34:22</i><br /><hr />Friday the 13th has nothing to do with it, it's Aleister Crowley's birthday. That's why they did it on October 12th.<br /><i>by Danielle on 2006-10-14 06:34:50</i><br /><hr />Well thats great but daniel is fallowing u still<br /><i>by lea on 2006-10-14 06:46:48</i><br /><hr />#220 lizard is right on.<br /><i>by teh maggster on 2006-10-14 06:47:57</i><br /><hr />The religion founded by Aleister Crowley is called the Order Templi Orientis or OTO. This could be her religion (chances are!). An ex-member has written a free e-book that is available for download (I'm guessing it doesn't portray the religion in a favorable light), it is called "Black Lodge of Santa Cruz" I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but maybe it might explain some things! I'm downloading it right now to take a peek.<br /><i>by Danielle on 2006-10-14 07:02:32</i><br /><hr />Hey.
Your right this video was a little dark and becaus eof teh patch it did look liek bree was doing drugs but if your actually WATCHED and ENJOY the bree'blogs, you would know that she has been on a special diet becaus eof teh ceremony, has been taking pills and has been getting shots. ITs part of her customs.
I know bree is a "fake" and that she isn't really "bree" but sarah M. gellar isn't really buffy, but we still don't post "slut" all over her websites do we?<br /><i>by S.W.R on 2006-10-14 07:24:00</i><br /><hr />Following Daniel's Blair-Witch-esque vid, this was a bit of a disappointment and anticlimax, although kudos for the return of the arm bandage and what appears to be decent make-up.

Now what would be nice is some sort of ritual where dear Bree tries to bring Daniel into the fold.  Daniel fakes interest and takes his camera and laptop along (obviously, this will need some sly exposition).  He's busted, and he takes Bree into the woods to get away.  Then they can shoot their 'on the run' videos, replete with fights between the two of them, and still upload the vids via the laptop.  That could lead to a great climax when the baddies finally catch up with them.  Bree could die, and the final vid could be a sad 'remember Bree' compilaiton thing with indie pop/shoegazer music.

Just a thought.  Or twelve.<br /><i>by Vincent Truman on 2006-10-14 07:47:31</i><br /><hr />dija SEE daniels vid? why didnt u talk about it? doesnt the fact that he documented it make it void or something? HELLO?!! ISNT THAT IMPORTANT????????<br /><i>by bellakins11215 on 2006-10-14 08:14:02</i><br /><hr />So, that book is super boring. Sorry I brought it up. If anyone actually KNOWS what they are talking about in that book, please feel free to share. I really tried to read it, but there are way too many references to Masons, and Wiccas, and I really got lost. I'm sure it's a fantastic book for someone who is into that stuff, but they don't really give us anything relevant. Ooops, sorry, thought I had something! :)<br /><i>by Danielle on 2006-10-14 08:19:20</i><br /><hr />Cold Toes (post #217),

You noticed it too, huh?  The words of Bree and her body language don't match.  Sometimes body language speaks volumes over verbal language.

Chloe (post #233),

Wow!  I couldn't have said it better.  Bravo to you!  I wish this was more of a sweet silly love story rather than a weird twisted scary story.  Oh well.  I'm still going to watch it because I'm hooked and want to know how it ends.

Someone mentioned they thought the majority of the audience were teenagers and college kids.  Maybe, but there are some adults too.  Iâ€™ve noticed some people who have posted, have listed their ages as being in their 20â€™s or 30â€™s.  Iâ€™m in my mid 40â€™s and I noticed a few weeks back one guy that posted was in his 50â€™s and had his doctorial degree.  Also, look at some of the video responses.  Notice that a lot of them are by adult men.  I think originally the writers were aiming at teenagers and maybe college kids, but because of all the media hype, adults have checked out LG15 and have come to love it too.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-14 08:46:21</i><br /><hr />It occurs to me that none of this "LG15 is boring, sacrifice someone!" talk would be happening if we didn't know that this was a fictional TV show. If we thought this was real, we'd be enthralled with every little detail.

Interesting.<br /><i>by Lauren on 2006-10-14 08:55:40</i><br /><hr />I know we as the audience get to watch both Bree's and Daniel's videos here at lonelygirl15.com, but the premise of the show is that they are video blogs from independent people.  So I'm guessing that what's supposedly happening is that Bree is no longer watching Daniel's blogs, which is why she's not commenting on Daniel's stalkerish ways.<br /><i>by PK9 on 2006-10-14 09:01:53</i><br /><hr />I do think it could benefit from going back to the cuteness of "proving science wrong." It sucks to see her and Daniel apart. I think the mystery episodes grew out of the craziness to do with Cassieiswatching. But the creators had no good payoff in store. They should have stayed with what made this show great in the beginning. 

I'm not saying the mystery aspect of the show has been bad ... it's just that you need to throw your audience a bone once in a while. Not just extend the mystery out indefinitely. We knew Bree wouldn't get raped or sacrificed - that's too edgy for a show that started off with a girl introducing us to her pet stuffed animals. But what exactly are we supposed to anticipate? I don't know?

In the case of CiW, I anticipated a great ending to a game that seemed to be well orchastrated by whoever the puppet master was. But, as many of you know, CiW has yet to come to any kind of satisfying conclusion. In fact, it's a huge let down.<br /><i>by Lauren on 2006-10-14 09:08:44</i><br /><hr />Ok, for those of you who are disappointed that you didn't get to see a true pagan ceremony, I've found one for you all to watch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4907101848739418369&amp;q=Wicca&amp;hl=en

(Note to the humor challenged: This is a joke)

Enjoy!<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-14 09:10:22</i><br /><hr />cassieiswatching@hotmail.com is on MSN right now. online. with a morse code name that translates as "answersomegaamarea". I insulted her/it. told her Lonelygirl is boring and that she (cassie) sucks.<br /><i>by Cory on 2006-10-14 09:12:31</i><br /><hr />donga Says: 
<i>In wikipedia on O.T.O(Ordo Templi Orientis, Crowleyâ€™s religion) the Thelema mysticism has its magicians astral travel to the abyss( a strange void linked to the gap in thought between the real and the unreal, as lucy said her imagianary friends/imagination was good), a â€œperilous operationâ€(why sheâ€™s so tired?) and if successful confers graduation to the degree of â€œMaster of the Templeâ€. So maybe bree is now a master hence the more responsibility. Any thoughts on this?</i>

Well this was origionally my idea, but after some studying and talking with someone in the know, this is a really common ceremony, important, but common. In the vid where Bree first tells us of the ceremony she said it hadn't been done in a long time. So that kind of steered me away from this theory, I tried googling variations of injections for occult ceremonies with little to no success. I will continue to look however, but *sigh* I have other things to do today...I know right, what can be "more important" than this!?

Sorry I was pissy last night, but some comments were just uneducated and showed a clear lack of effort. I will try to be more kind from here on out!!<br /><i>by DaraLynnie on 2006-10-14 09:40:27</i><br /><hr />What! i dont know what happened but i cant even see the video! :(<br /><i>by Yassaman on 2006-10-14 09:51:03</i><br /><hr />Bree is fine.  All you silly nillies worried about nada.<br /><i>by Mr.CBV on 2006-10-14 09:51:28</i><br /><hr />Um. Yah. Whatever.<br /><i>by ok on 2006-10-14 09:52:33</i><br /><hr />I feel that the biggest clue we have from the creators is the "barnacle" tag. I want to keep working on that. The picture on wikipedia did creep me out when I first went to it, and I almost thought I clicked on the wrong link. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnacle

Otter found something interesting in her post #132. The "innoculation" of a parasitic barnacle. Your other description of barnacles (#114)was really creepy also. 

May I remind you all of what Bree said in her video? â€œLucy was amazing. She stood beside me the entire time and held my hand.â€ Something more than chanting and walking in lines happened there. I just don't think she's at liberty to say. 

Jessica, #192, Good catch with the Lucifer reference. Do we know that Lucy should actually be spelled Luci? I have the belief that things on this show aren't coincidental.<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-14 10:02:13</i><br /><hr />Here's a Wiccan New Moon Ritual.  Notice they don't dress in black hooded robes or sacrifice anyone.  Itâ€™s a pagan ritual alright, but itâ€™s not chock full of exciting scary stuff.  No naked woman as an alter, no Latin mass spoken backwards, no drinking of blood, etc.  Itâ€™s really very mundane.  The people donâ€™t all have shaved heads, black goatees or wear large pentagrams around their necks.  I tried to find a Thelema or Satanic ritual video, but I couldn't.  No surprise there.  People who practice Thelema or Satanism tend to not video tape it and post it on the Internet for all to see.  These folks are very secretive.  Wiccan ritual is very simple, very â€œearthyâ€ and it almost reminds me of some kind of Flower Child thing from the 1960â€™s.  Nothing too sinister about this New Moon Ritual.  Anyway, enjoy watching a real pagan Wiccan New Moon Ritual.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1506979515162647284&amp;q=Wicca&amp;hl=en<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-14 10:04:15</i><br /><hr />EngagedtobeMarried, thanks so much for that video! That was sooo hilarious! (awsome choreography on their part)<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-14 10:09:28</i><br /><hr />ps. I was refering to the video posted on #244<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-14 10:12:25</i><br /><hr />I'm watching you, Mr. CBV...<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-10-14 10:13:26</i><br /><hr />I did a search for enochian chants and came across something interesting...

http://www.sekhetmaat.com/www/html/journal/issues/vol9/vol9no1web.pdf

If you go about halfway into it, there's an equinox ritual for the serpent-lord..<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-10-14 10:49:00</i><br /><hr />Very interesting jc_gypsy7, thanks for the link.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-14 11:02:46</i><br /><hr />Silkyworm, glad you liked the first link.  I too thought it was pretty good and very funny.  I decided to post it here because I think this is all getting too serious and we all need a good laugh.  Glad you enjoyed it.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-14 11:04:04</i><br /><hr />she sure mentions discipline a lot... "discipline" can cross a line into abuse.<br /><i>by Dee on 2006-10-14 11:05:00</i><br /><hr />makeslove i did not notice untill i read your comment but i think she does<br /><i>by Pepe on 2006-10-14 11:10:52</i><br /><hr />Okay, I'm beyond suspense now. It's just not interesting anymore. Yeah, so you did a ritual on a hill top in the middle of the night - so have I, several times. It's just dragging and dragging. Grrrr! I want some fun information!<br /><i>by Ella on 2006-10-14 11:17:27</i><br /><hr />220 Lizard 
no the stupid p monkey dance were boring i love the new stuff but i do kinda miss seeing Bree and Daniel goofing around in front of the camera. But still from the beginning i was wondering what her religion was and now we are finally finding out before they move on they should finish the religious stuff. 

did anyone else see the black eye or am i just tripp'n<br /><i>by Pepe on 2006-10-14 11:18:08</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy7: amazing document. This line jumped out at me because of the "0048 Aliester Crowley" 
"In 49 voyces, or callings, which are the Natural Keyes to
open those (not 49 but 48, for One is not to be opened) Gates of understanding...."
Just thought it was interesting that they specifically stated "not 49 but 48"<br /><i>by scib on 2006-10-14 11:33:27</i><br /><hr />#  katie Says:
October 13th, 2006 at 4:49 pm

sheâ€™s very shiftyâ€¦ is this a side effect of the pills, injections, and dieting?

I think its the side effects of being initiated. Her version of a Quinceanera, Bat Mitzvah, sweet sixteen involved something very dramatic, that either she was part of or witnessed (my guess is something sexual), but even if iâ€  wasn't I think the next step is that she's "crossed over" into something darker. My guess is she'll 'change' or be inhabited by some dark spirit or something. It's too bad the ceremony wasn't the end, I've certainly lost interest.<br /><i>by Sarah on 2006-10-14 11:53:47</i><br /><hr />You ain't trippin', Pepe #280. Black eye and as many others have noted, her body language is totally different. And it's not just that she's "weak." Play an early video such as "My Parents Suck." The difference is remarkable. 

Look at the little picture that links to her "I Completed The Ceremony" 0051 video (at the top left of this page). The Creators chose one where she looks beat and downcast. 

People who think she's fine, just tired, have got some 'splaining to do. Mr CBV, I'm looking at you!<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-10-14 11:57:58</i><br /><hr />it's awesome how the ceremony was on crowley's birthday.  whooooooooh.  *note the sarcasm.*<br /><i>by erin on 2006-10-14 12:10:22</i><br /><hr />hi.
ive watched almost all of your vids en i lik'em,,saw you on mtv and stuff,what happent to your arm    [is it fake like the caracter loelygirl],^^ i dunno,why im writing here coz i know you cant or wont reply so,, bye
www.blog.central.is/-posiur<br /><i>by Dyffa//iceland on 2006-10-14 12:20:53</i><br /><hr />It seems that the absence of a vlog from Daniel is very conspicuous.  And Bree not mentioning _anything_ about his last video  only adds to that impression.
The point that several people already made -- that the video wouldn't be posted if he hadn't made it home safely -- is solid, but maybe he  got a "visit", later ___  from the bald guy with the shades who showed up in his video, or from Lucy.  ___ and then again maybe the Creators are just taking a while to attenuate the "suspense", but it really does beg  one's interest at this point.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 12:27:55</i><br /><hr />Right Zach, if Daniel is okay right now, we would have expected a follow up vlog with him explaining what happened and the "close call" with someone following him. The fact that he hasn't posted anything after the ceremony is really suspicious, and I'm afraid he was caught and is being watched closely. I think this will be confirmed if Daniel's next vlog says, "I was wrong about the whole thing. Nothing happened, and I should have trusted Bree. I hope we can just go back to being friends and not talk about this again."<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-14 12:39:06</i><br /><hr />I am the Whore that shakest death, and I am the holy angel of inspiration; the Great One of the Night of Time. 

http://www.sekhetmaat.com/www/html/ritual/times/autumn_bhw.html<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 12:45:23</i><br /><hr />I wonder of Tom Cruise was one of the elders?

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/5577/elder.html<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 13:05:00</i><br /><hr />I think they are making her into some kind of Priestess. And I think they did something bad to her. Very bad. She looks more than a little bummed.<br /><i>by Danielle on 2006-10-14 13:08:31</i><br /><hr />PLEASE, PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP, STOP POSTING, AND GET SOME FRIENDS YOU LONELY MORON<br /><i>by SHUT THE FUCK UP on 2006-10-14 13:09:11</i><br /><hr />what????? no i hate you daniel for following me again??? what about oh yeah the bandage on my arm is from them cutting me open and using my blood??? all we get is a lousy " i understood most of the language" im sad now!! ive gotta say i TOTALLY agree with daniel!! Bree is WACKED out man!! maybe the bandage is from them giving her drugs or something!!!!<br /><i>by Aspen on 2006-10-14 13:11:45</i><br /><hr />They used to call her Stargirl....

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/jerryspinelli/stargirl_rg.html<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 13:16:46</i><br /><hr />so we havent herd from Daniel in a while my guess is he got back to his car after escaping the security guard or whoever it was he saw n was running from and like a classic movie his car wouldn't start so hes been sleeping in his car for the past two days no cell no  video camera..but no worries someone will find him and everything will be back on track... or none will find him and it will be a whole new show called The Slums of L.A. unshaven Daniel with ripped clothes and about Brees size from lack of food..haha ya or not<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-14 13:50:52</i><br /><hr />CNN is reporting that Daniel's chopped up body has been found by the side of a highway in LA!  I guess he should have ran faster.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 13:59:18</i><br /><hr />stumbled on your vids i am intrigued i must learn more please educate me

http://www.myspace.com/bodyofajournalist<br /><i>by Kent on 2006-10-14 13:59:43</i><br /><hr />Sooooo... Girl! Im in love with you, have you ever been at Portugal?<br /><i>by Bruno on 2006-10-14 14:06:43</i><br /><hr />vampire bites under the bandage. daniel is next.<br /><i>by oblib dot com on 2006-10-14 14:19:39</i><br /><hr />Bree looks so tired. I think even though the ceremony is over shes got a whole lot ahead of her. I don't know why shed have a band-aide on after a ceremony unless the put something in here. maybe they gave her vitiman shots afterword because the ceremony took to much out of here. I think its weird daniel hasn't said anything yet or that bree hasn't said anything about daniel. maybe daniels gonna try and jump her out in public one day. that would be sweet<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-14 14:24:09</i><br /><hr />was she beaten up or somethin????<br /><i>by chiccca on 2006-10-14 14:27:23</i><br /><hr />Alright, so where is Daniel? He should be recapping pretty soon...

Well, at least we know he's ok. He obviously got back to his house to upload his latest video. Apparently Bree cancelled her subscription to his videos.. =/<br /><i>by Heidi on 2006-10-14 14:42:14</i><br /><hr />I for one am happy this has not turned out to be another gooey teen love story. there are enough boy meets girl stories out there for my liking.

if you look back through previous videos there are plenty of droops in the narrative that pick up along the way i think this is just another droop, the calm before the storm if you like. its just that this droop is an utter anti-climax because of the ceremony.

the writers need to do something big to keep my interest, but i have no doubt they will.<br /><i>by crompers on 2006-10-14 14:46:51</i><br /><hr />Soooo... You are so beautifull and funny.. i'm in love with you.. :P<br /><i>by Bruno on 2006-10-14 15:35:14</i><br /><hr />Okay, guys, this is not Stockholm Syndrome. She was not taken hostage or captive, which are requirements. Posting the link 10 times doesn't make it so. ;) Cults tend to seek out people who are considered to have "weak minds" because they are easier to influence. Just because they are easily influenced, it doesn't mean they have Stockholm Syndrome. Bree's parents probably fit into this mold when they joined the religion, and they became more authoritative with her after they formed beliefs based on the cult's (again, I direct you to look up the definition of cult before you jump down my throat for labeling it). 

Also, Bree did not have blood drawn. That would have been done on the inside of her elbow. The location is likely from a shot of some sort.<br /><i>by Erica on 2006-10-14 15:46:04</i><br /><hr />OMG!!! Ok, so i love youtube but i'm absolutely broke, and can't afford a video camera right now.. so i can't post on that site yet, and lonelygirl15 has been my most interesting and favorite member on there.. however, i am just fuckin dieing to know.. What this cermony was.. and for what religon thing.. and is all that stuff real? for reals reals? lol.. please e-mail me at sandfordk@gmail.com let me know.. someone damn.. and danielbeast needs to work on his stalking skills a little more... his videos are not long enough or have enough detail.. geeez... lol....<br /><i>by Spunelli on 2006-10-14 15:54:23</i><br /><hr />Thank you, Erica. Nice to have a different opinion in here. Last night was awful.<br /><i>by Lisa on 2006-10-14 16:01:23</i><br /><hr />Jessica! You got your fifteen minutes of fame! What are you gonna do next? 

QUIT THE SHOW!

Jump to the next gig!<br /><i>by michael on 2006-10-14 16:10:20</i><br /><hr />ben/#77 
But a few videos back she said that Cassie didn't want to be her friend anymore because she was afraid of the ceremony so wouldnt that mean that Cassie would be her before when she wasn't into it and that Bree would be the new person who like ceremony's? Let me know if im totally wrong.

P.s....Whats with all the pictures on the back of Bree's door? Were those there before? hummm... i might have to go back and check it...<br /><i>by Mistakesmade on 2006-10-14 16:19:10</i><br /><hr />Opps never mind they were there...im just stupid...<br /><i>by Mistakesmade on 2006-10-14 16:21:29</i><br /><hr />Oh, BTW that Daniel guy with the Arabic last name really couldn't act his way out of a paper-bag if he tried....

NO FUTURE.....GIVE IT UP....<br /><i>by michael on 2006-10-14 16:28:30</i><br /><hr />I'm intrigued about the blood drawing thing, because I know that's not where you draw blood, but I wonder what the iron pills are for?  Also, considering she said she'd be too "weak" after the ceremony led me to believe she would have blood drawn...

modelmotion, you crack me up.  I think it has to be Tom Cruise!!!  HAHAHA!!!  And I felt so smart finding the L Ron Hubbard connection but you put it up, like, days ago...  :(

Any insights on the iron pills?  And what kind of shots?<br /><i>by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-14 16:30:30</i><br /><hr />I love these video's I think the whole story line works great and it is very entertaining.   I would love for Ya'll to do a movie at some point in time,<br /><i>by Dr Benny Spock on 2006-10-14 16:30:46</i><br /><hr />"â€œOutside of the criminal context, a form of the syndrome may take place in military basic training, in which â€œtraining is a mildly traumatic experience intended to produce a bond,â€ with the goal of forming military units which will remain loyal to each other even in life-threatening situations."


People go to into the military (and thus basic training) willingly. 

So Stockholm's doesn't HAVE to result from something forced.<br /><i>by lane on 2006-10-14 16:32:46</i><br /><hr />why r u still interested in the false history of this girl?

she's an actress named jessica...

people chek out this video, jessica (named here bree) talks about this show:

http://lawaloca.com/node/6089

kisses from spain :)<br /><i>by marta from spain on 2006-10-14 16:52:33</i><br /><hr />#313lane I think you're right on.   As you probably read, this was discussed or debated yesterday in the forum.  Even a superficial  knowledge of what the term "stockholm syndrome" is describing includes awarteness that abduction and/or _literal_ captivity  are _not_ requisite factors.   That's what is so intriguing and disturbing about this odd quirk in the human psyche (or, to be fair, it's a potential in the psyches of a percentage of humans__ the exact demographic is unknown).
I think either Bree is a victim of this syndrome or she is scared and is complying and trying to get stuff across by dropping hints.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 16:55:45</i><br /><hr />Lisa#299  The bandage is on her arm because she is getting shots, she said so in the last video, once a week. That is one of the mysteries, what are they for? Psychoactive drugs aren't administered on the shoulder. Immunizations are given on the shoulder, but once a week? And you wouldn't need to give a 16 y.o. girl fertility shots, she would be plenty fertile already. So?<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-14 17:33:38</i><br /><hr />i wonder what Jessica Lee Rose is doing right now?? is shes up in her posh appartment in L.A. at her typewritter typing out possible ideas for the next story( i know she doesnt write them) and then checking up on all these comments laughing her but off because shes high on weed<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-14 17:34:21</i><br /><hr />OKaaaaaay.  Ready for the next video already!  I need my fix---starting to get antsy here!  Bring it on!<br /><i>by Tracy on 2006-10-14 17:42:58</i><br /><hr />Ditto what Tracy (#318) said.  I always get so impatient!
WHAT ABOUT DANIEL.<br /><i>by Dittany on 2006-10-14 17:54:32</i><br /><hr />Okay. In the spirit of reserach I looked up the word string â€˜weekly administered by shot upper armâ€™.
One hit talks about pre-exposure rabies vaccines:
â€œFor preventative rabies immunization in an unexposed child, an inactivated-rabies vaccine is administered in three 1.0-ml. doses, with the second dose seven days after the first, and the third dose 21 or 28 days after the first. The vaccine is injected into the upper arm. Studies have found that this regimen produces adequate antibodies against rabies in the blood serum of all subjects.â€

Then I changed the â€œweeklyâ€ part of the string to â€œonce a weekâ€, and found a link to a birth control method that is adminstered once a week:
SKIN PATCH
Brand name:
Ortho-EvraÂ® *
Slang name(s): The â€œPatchâ€

What it is: Once-a-week birth control patch containing both estrogen and progestin.

How it works: Attached to the buttocks, abdomen, upper torso or upper outer arm, the patch delivers a steady stream of hormones through the skin and into the bloodstream to prevent ovulation. 

Effectiveness: When used as directed, only one out of 100 women became pregnant within the first year of use in clinical trials.

Benefits: Non-invasive, easy to use, only need to think about it once a week.

Important things to consider: Does not effectively prevent against STIs and HIV, may cause nausea and headaches. Some women may have side effects including mood changes, acne, headache, breast tenderness, and nausea.

Cost: About $30-35 for a monthâ€™s supply. Requires a visit to a health care provider. Available by prescription only.
*Trademarks are the property of their respective owners. 

The mention of side-effects could relate to what Bree said about not feeling well right after the shots.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 18:08:55</i><br /><hr />(sorry about the double-posting. it looked my first try didn't get through because of the URL)<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 18:10:53</i><br /><hr />Zack, thats a patch, not a shot and a bandaid.<br /><i>by rebecca in RI on 2006-10-14 18:11:27</i><br /><hr />you seem like youve givne up your child hood completly now or mabey you jsut really sad<br /><i>by peter on 2006-10-14 18:13:47</i><br /><hr />i was expecting something a little bit more worth all of daniels trouble.. oh well. better luck next time, eh?<br /><i>by Ana on 2006-10-14 18:25:18</i><br /><hr />Pre-ceremony, everyone was wondering "what will happen at the ceremony?"

Post-ceremony, everyone is now wondering "what DID happen at the ceremony"?

It's like we've been waiting for this HUGE billboard on the road in front of us, and we were going (being driven?) so fast, that none of us got to read it.

So...  This latest offering...  I am totally on board with the "Bree's words don't match up with her body language" comments.  AbsoLUTEly.  Why don't they match up?  She doesn't believe what she is saying.

Bree's complete absence of comment on Daniel?  Hmmmm... I have some theories...

Theory #1:  She simply didn't see his last vlog prior to posting this one.  Seems a little unlikely.

Theory #2:  Bree is moving on.  Telling Daniel to back off didn't work, so she's ignoring him.  Maybe... but it could hardly be called a thrilling plot development.

Theory #3:  Bree is vlogging to a script not of her own making.  No, I don't mean the Creators, God bless 'em...   Religious types are now pulling Bree's strings.  Daniel *did* get captured shortly after his last vlog, and is now being held by members of Bree's religion.  They got his camera, and in an effort to maintain a sense of normality, posted a *heavily edited* version of Daniel's footage.  The leaders (Elders?) have now coerced Bree into posting this latest vlog in an effort to disarm people's suspicions.  Daniel is not mentioned because they do not want him to be in people's minds.... Forget... Forget... Forget...  Sleep, little ones... :-)  All this time, we were expecting Bree to disappear, and turns out it's Daniel that goes missing.  Spooky!

...but probably way off the mark!  Ahhh, what the heck...  Making up this stuff is way fun :-)<br /><i>by dooplex on 2006-10-14 18:32:12</i><br /><hr />#323 rebecca right, it does say a patch.  I'm no expert, but those patches are  usally a light tan, "bandaid" color to blend in with the skin.
IF the writers wanted to include "birth control" uin teh scenario, it would be stupid to use a technically correct patch, because it wouldn't be noticable, so they might take poetic license and use white gauze&amp; tape that we see.  

But the birth control idea is kind of far-fetched anyway.  The info I found about pre-exposure rabies shots isn't any more credible.
    C'mon rebecca, do some research of your own.  Let's see what you come up with!<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 18:42:03</i><br /><hr />Wow.... she doesn't look happy AT all.  :(  Something bad happened and she's not telling I bet.<br /><i>by Morgan on 2006-10-14 18:44:19</i><br /><hr />They're probably Allergy shots:

"A small amount of allergen is injected under the skin, usually in the _fleshy part of the upper arm._ In the beginning, injections usually are given once a week, and the doses of allergen are increased gradually with each injection. 

The maximum dose, called a maintenance dose, is reached after four to six months. The maintenance dose is given once a week or once every two weeks. After several months, the injection schedule may be reduced to once every three or four weeks. A full course of allergy shots usually takes between three and five years."

(Google 'shots upper arm once a week'  without the single-quotes)<br /><i>by CinnamonSun on 2006-10-14 18:47:10</i><br /><hr />I don't know if this will help, but here's a page telling you how to tell when someone is lying. 

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php

Most strikingly: "Physical expression will be limited and stiff, with few arm and hand movements."-Of course, this could be attributed to the medicine, and the late night.

 "A person who is lying to you will avoid making eye contact."- She keeps looking away from the camera, more than usual I think. 

"Timing and duration of emotional gestures and emotions are off a normal pace. The display of emotion is delayed, stays longer it would naturally, then stops suddenly."- As some have stated, her emotions seem forced. ex: 'I feel great'. The smile comes after the words, not during them. And for the same type of words 'the ceremony was amazing' she's not excited about it.

"Expressions are limited to mouth movements when someone is faking emotions (like happy, surprised, sad, awe, )instead of the whole face. For example; when someone smiles naturally their whole face is involved: jaw/cheek movement, eyes and forehead push down, etc."- Check

"A liar might unconsciously place objects (book, coffee cup, etc.) between themselves and you." - Bree has her legs up and between her and the camera througout the film, for the entirety of it.  She's done this before sometimes (but only when she's uncomfortable, ie: Daniel Crossed the Line, Boy Problems).

"A liar may leave out pronouns and speak in a monotonous tone...Words may be garbled and spoken softly, and syntax and grammar may be off. In other words, his sentences will likely be muddled rather than emphasized." 

See if that helps at all...<br /><i>by shouldbestudying on 2006-10-14 18:55:16</i><br /><hr />#328 interesting idea!  I did some more searches with key words and came upon some info regarding Hpatitis C (didn't someone alread suggest that disease?).
Here's one thing:
"I was diagnosed with genotype 1 hepatitis C and the "beginning stages" of cirrhosis. I have just completed 49 weeks of interferon shots once a week and 1200 mg ribavirin daily for 50 weeks."

There are what's called Hgb tests invloved in teh tretament of Hep C, apparently -- these test the red blood cell count -- and anemia is a problem with teh disease &amp; treatment.

That could account for her taking iron pills.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 18:59:19</i><br /><hr />I agree that feeling weak and the iron pills both suggest a loss of blood.  Maybe they are throwing us off with the patch/shot on her arm........that may not be related.......and she may still have had blood drawn from elsewhere.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 19:20:39</i><br /><hr />This person has been making a lot of changes on LGpedia (see link in menu at the top):  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:71.224.243.78  I wonder who they are?<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 19:31:00</i><br /><hr />Weird.......something odd in all of that....is this all just made up for publicity or something<br /><i>by dalleyasaurus on 2006-10-14 19:36:20</i><br /><hr />"... Worship me with fire and blood; worship me with swords and with spears..." (from The Book of the Law by Aleister Crowley, 1938)

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/crowley.htm<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 19:39:04</i><br /><hr />Theory:  Blood was drawn from Bree at the ceremony for an "Aleister Crowley" blood ritual.  She was then given a shot of Vitamin B12 in the arm to help her replace the lost blood.

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/wha/wha_anemia_crs.htm<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 19:50:55</i><br /><hr />i think bree might be a Judeo-Christian but thats just an educated guess<br /><i>by Matt on 2006-10-14 19:55:40</i><br /><hr />Anyone remember when Tom Cruise vowed to eat placenta after birth of his baby with Katie Holmes.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16958010&amp;method=full&amp;siteid=94762&amp;headline=exclusive--tom-chews-name_page.html

Now put that in the context of Aleister Crowley.  Now it gets interesting:

"Crowley's later years were shadowed by poor health, drug addiction, and desperation for money. He had a talisman, called Segelah, which was intended "for finding a great treasure." Segelah was smeared with dried semen and menstrual blood."

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/crowley.htm<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 20:04:40</i><br /><hr />Wow Good detective work modelmotion!

I clicked on your Wiki link (re: the IP) and then did a reverse IP lookup.
The 71.224.243.78 IP is assigned to Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. JUMPSTART-5.

And the 193.255.230.227 IP is from the Netherlands
OrgName:    RIPE Network Coordination Centre 
OrgID:      RIPE
Address:    P.O. Box 10096
City:       Amsterdam
StateProv:  
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country:    NL

What you've posted certainly does make the  "Blood ritual" theory more plausible. (I wonder if the writers have been watching the new Showtime series "Dexter" in which blood is a main theme.)

Either this story will turn very benign ("Aha Bree was just getting vaccines so she could go out of the country with mummy and dad, and teh 'ceremony' was her going away party"), or really intense ("Blood ritual", "impregnation with Crowley creature", Greta Rite, etc.), but they'll need to do something more sson or it will lost a lot of its audience.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 20:23:51</i><br /><hr />#338  Crowley's "poor health" included syphillus, by the way.  It eventually caused dementia.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 20:27:36</i><br /><hr />"On the Use of Blood in Ritual" 1986

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_del_Campo<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 20:28:01</i><br /><hr />On the Use of Blood in Ritual - pdf file:

http://www.hermetic.com/casa_del_campo/blood_ritual.pdf<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 20:37:42</i><br /><hr />ok so now the story gose nowhere as far as daniel he's a scared little girl"i heard someone in the bushes so i ran" it's a good thing she's alive no thanks to you. i hope they come with something original. if not here's an idea daniel must free her(if he's not to scared)by defeting the cults leader in agame of duel monsters (hey it's egyption) 
he will attain victory by summoning the dark magician. YU-GI-OH!    i might as well advertise like the proudcers do see marie annotinte<br /><i>by esteger on 2006-10-14 20:51:42</i><br /><hr />THE MASS OF THE PHOENIX

http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/lib44.htm<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 20:59:30</i><br /><hr />Gnostic Mass

http://www.hermetic.com/sabazius/gnostic_mass.htm<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 21:08:28</i><br /><hr />WAIT. iron pills? they're trying to turn her into a monarch butterfly. i swear, they have iron in their heads that make them like flying compasses, thats how they get SOUTH. 

experiment....<br /><i>by katie on 2006-10-14 21:10:53</i><br /><hr />"Music is now played. The child enters with the ewer and the salt. The VIRGIN enters with the Sword and the Paten. The child enters with the censer and the perfume. They face the DEACON, deploying into line, from the space between the two altars. "

I would assume that Bree would be the virgin in the mass!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 21:11:49</i><br /><hr />She seems a little hazed like someone who has had too much to drink, or maybe is taking some weird medication.<br /><i>by Army Guy on 2006-10-14 21:18:16</i><br /><hr />Since the Priestess has to be virgo intacta.....aka a virgin.....

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/virgo_intacta


.....i would assume that Bree had the role of the Prietess in the Gnostic Mass as described by Aliester Crowley.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 21:34:58</i><br /><hr />Why werent her parents there? Where were they?
And whats on ur arm? man what did they do to u!? Why wuld u need ingections?<br /><i>by Lala on 2006-10-14 21:35:40</i><br /><hr />Iron

Iron is the metal of Mars, Ra Hoor Khuit, the initiatory force. Mars is attributed to the SvÃ¢disthÃ¢na Chakra, located in the pelvic region.

http://www.hermetic.com/sabazius/gmnotes.htm#iron

The PRIESTESS: By the power of   Iron , I say unto thee, Arise. In the name of our Lord the   Sun, and of our Lord   ... , that thou mayst administer the virtues to the Brethren. 

http://www.hermetic.com/sabazius/gnostic_mass.htm

Hummmmm....iron ..........blood.........food for thought.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 21:41:32</i><br /><hr />Zach, I saw your post #331 and I did a little more research. I think you may have stumbled upon something here with hepatitis C shots. You've already discovered that hep.C shots are injected weekly and that Ribavirin (helps clear the virus) causes anemia, which is why Bree is taking the iron pills. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hepatitis-c/DS00097/DSECTION=8

Well, I was trying to research "hepatitis c diet," and though there's a lot for chronic hep.c patients (they're recommended to be vegetarian), I don't see anything fitting in Bree's case, who I assume doesn't already have it, because she would have been taking the shots the whole time.

The only way this could all fit in, is if Bree had to come in contact with infected blood (one of the elders). Here's a side note: Anyone who received a blood transfusion before 1992 (before blood screenings started) could be infected with hep.c. That could be any one of the elders. (Click on the same link I gave and click "risk factors.") 

Now, this is pretty far stretched because I'm afraid that once Bree comes in contact with the virus, she's received it for life. So, I don't see how prepping her against it would help, I don't think her body could kill of the virus instantly, unless they're depending on some religious "help" on top of all her preparing to keep her immune. 

I certainly hope that isn't what they were prepping her body for. However, the shots, pills, and diet seem to put it all into place. I'm going to bed, so someone else pick up on this research. I'll be back in the morning to help out--so long as a new vlog hasn't been posted by then.<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-14 21:45:51</i><br /><hr />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_XV,_The_Gnostic_Mass

The Elements are then consecrated by the Virtue of the Lance, transforming the bread into the Body of God and the wine into the Blood of God. Of these, the Priest makes a symbolic offering to On, being our Lord the Sun.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 21:52:12</i><br /><hr />I skipped the last third of comments so I don't know if it's been said, but on the forums someone mentioned that erythropoietin is given sucutaneously and is taken in conjunction with iron pills usually. Erthyropoietin is taken to increase the production of red blood cells and is sometimes given when blood loss is likely to occur so people don't feel too bad afterwards.  Side effects of taking erthropoietin include feeling tired and weak afterwards.  

All this implying that blood was lost at the ceremony.<br /><i>by azulenekiwi on 2006-10-14 21:53:33</i><br /><hr />the religion is Thelema!<br /><i>by alex on 2006-10-14 22:01:52</i><br /><hr />azulenekiwi...I like your theories...

I want a new vid NOW.  (urge to have tantrum rising...)<br /><i>by eustacia_vye on 2006-10-14 22:05:16</i><br /><hr />Wow, I just Google earthed Boleskine (see the Gnostic Mass) and its on the shore of Loch Ness in Scotland..............

.....no, I am not suggesting that the Loch Ness Monster is involved!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-10-14 22:10:28</i><br /><hr />#349 silkyworm  your exploration/summation the Hepatitis 'theory' is amazing.  You distilled that down in to it's essential elements.  One thing  that I want to add is that Hepatitis can be transmitted to a child during birth from an infected mother.

But I agree that it doesn't make sense when you take the idea a step farther/  If she already had it, she wouldn't start treatment just because a ceremony was coming up (unless it was to make her own blood so that it wouldn't transmit Hepatitis, but she wouldv'e gotten treatment for it already anyway).  If it was for a preventative, it would be one shot for inoculation.  Still if the ceremony was to include some of the sacramental "cakes" made by Crwoley's recipe, I can see why she'd have to have some preventative for Hepatitis.

Maybe the rabies pre-exposure shots? (i posted that earlier).  The first two shots are a week apart, but the third is more like three weeks later, so that doesn't add up.
Hmmmm....<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-14 22:17:33</i><br /><hr />Bree...you say you're happy...and a completely new person...but I'm not convinced.  Your eyes look so sad, not just tired, but sad (and what is with the black eye?).  Something is wrong. You rocked back and forth several times in your chair, like you feel trapped.  You don't 'seem' like the same Bree to me.  I'm sad myself because a part of you that I loved to see is gone.

This is all just too odd for me.  I'm perfectly open, but this doesn't feel right.  I think that everyone else is correct in that you were a virgin for the ceremony because you represented "virgo" while there...or that you possibly honored Hathor.  But still, you need to remember that with more responsibility it's all the more important that you have fun!

I'm worried about you Bree...in more ways then one...<br /><i>by randomtrickpony on 2006-10-14 22:32:54</i><br /><hr />this whole thing is great and all... but come on,

im getting rather bored of all this.

either have more plot...
or go bak to they way it was

if u guys do that

it will be lots better<br /><i>by yoshi on 2006-10-14 22:38:44</i><br /><hr />We'll I'm in the camp of this is getting boring and we want it back to the old funny, silly videos.  For those who like the way things are going.  I can understand why you like it.  I just got bored of spooky movies with twists and turns in the plots that really lead nowhere.  But from the posts, you look like the majority.  And who am I to tell you that you are wrong and this is boring.

Unfortunately, I don't think things will change.  The videos are still popular and as long as more people like the dark mystery it will stay this way.  There is a small chance that we won't here anymore about the cult and it will go back to the old stuff, but I doubt it.

Bree, 
Thanks for setting me straight on some of science's biggest lies

Daniel,
Drink something with caffeine

Purple Monkey,
Hopefully one day Bree will apoligize for shoving her hand up your arse so many times and promise not to do it anymore.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-10-14 22:43:27</i><br /><hr />After viewing the video again, I must say that I can't see all this body language and signs of dishonesty in Bree's words. She just seems tired after a big day is all.
 Reading too much into these things can probably lead to disappointment if events don't play out like we imagine.
 The thing is... I've done some reading. October 12 is a thelemic holiday called, 'Crowleymas.' It's a time for joy and celebration. There shouldn't even be a 'ceremony' on Crowleymas. It's a day for feasting, trading stories, poetry,and just being plain jovial. No blood, no fertility rites (fertility rites are commonly done in the spring), and no screams. Just a few covered dishes and a coupla beers.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-10-14 23:20:25</i><br /><hr />....Eeeh...what f****** ceremony?? What is this? What have she done??? Could someone please explain what this fuzz is about???

I don't get it!<br /><i>by Buckster on 2006-10-15 00:51:26</i><br /><hr />-=======================WOW=====================-

God I watch all your videos in one day =) Kind of interesting! Hopfully you'll come back. And I don't belive that you 16! This is crazy you looks much older... Anyways cool idea about all this videos. How come your parents don't know yet that you are talking to ou self? Prity loud every day!

See ya later =)<br /><i>by Alekskill on 2006-10-15 01:16:57</i><br /><hr />It's all a conspiracy!!  Geez guys, look at yourselves. Throwing theories around, researching wacked out stuff. Here's my theory (which is probably no more absurd than the next persons) - none of you all can find "exactly" what this religion is, parts of this religion and that religion fit, but none fit exactly. You're all reading up on every little thing you can find. Ever considered the fact that this religion doesn't exist? Or more precicely, it's a new religion, (created by the creators if you will), and they're trying to publicize it and draw people into it. Recruitment! The ceremony hasn't been preformed in a "really long while", because it never has been preformed before. This whole thing could be one great big scam to draw you into this crazy new cult they are trying to set up. Absurd? Definately. Plausable? Sure. (At least I get a giggle out of the idea)<br /><i>by Buggar on 2006-10-15 03:09:35</i><br /><hr />is a big show :-) !!!
best regards from berlin 

enjoy your life 

:-)<br /><i>by dr.kay f. on 2006-10-15 03:53:40</i><br /><hr />love you<br /><i>by janpool on 2006-10-15 04:35:11</i><br /><hr />THE EYEBROWS!!!!!!!!!!11111<br /><i>by Cocksucker on 2006-10-15 05:31:06</i><br /><hr />Ugh...okay...I think the authors of this video story just screwed themselves. You don't end rising action with an anti-climax and expect people to keep wartching (or reading). This is basic to any story, even to any 20-second joke. If you build something up, you either have to continue building (create more tension) or you have to deliver the goods.

I watched this video almost right after it was posted and expected a second one to follow quickly, to get back into the tension-building, or maybe it would be something involving Daniel or whatever, but...nothing!!!!!

Big, big mistake, guys.<br /><i>by stace on 2006-10-15 06:41:20</i><br /><hr />Hey I WANT A NEW VIDEO.... this is lame<br /><i>by moondust on 2006-10-15 06:58:18</i><br /><hr />So now the ceremony is over and Bree has survived can we have some more "proving science wrong" before the next dramatic twist?<br /><i>by daw50n on 2006-10-15 07:20:15</i><br /><hr />Yeah Buggar #365 your "theory" was alreday discussed several weeks back.

I think the point of theorizing is not that we are going to "discover" her religion, per se, (obviously, the Creators could change the story line at any time, so a definite "discovery" isn't possible). It's like a treasure hunt, an  exchange of ideas with other people who also have an intellectual curiosity and sense of fun about it.
Although,it does get o-l-d when they drag out the time between videos.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-15 08:27:38</i><br /><hr />why's that on her arm?
that last time i say one was when she got grounded with the juicer
is it some kind of ritual?<br /><i>by lonelygal on 2006-10-15 08:37:18</i><br /><hr />#364 Alekskill.. 

Sorry if it might let you down but it's not an actual 16 year old girl with a vlog, it's sort of like an online tv show and the character of Bree is played by an actress.

I hope it does not turn you off the series! It's still just as entertaining and interesting, and now that you know it's scripted you can interact as an audience, by looking for clues that are purposely placed for the plot. Go to the forum and read the threads that explain :)

(this goes for all who don't yet know it's a show)<br /><i>by blah on 2006-10-15 08:53:09</i><br /><hr />Here's my conspiracy theory: 
I think meant to be that Bree would be fine anyway. 
Daniel could be dead. 
The ritual was a decoy to lure him in as the sacrifice. 
Bree knew of the plan all along. 
Daniel had been tricked to become the sacrifice.<br /><i>by kormmandos on 2006-10-15 08:59:07</i><br /><hr />nah, that theory sucks. think about how much science has been in these episodes already? hmmmmmmm? its deffinately more complciated, and each episode gives a little hint. so you have to compile all the information and do some research, like bree. i mean, thats part of the fun. 
she seems kinda bipolar to me. the meds making her moody?<br /><i>by katie on 2006-10-15 09:12:27</i><br /><hr />I think something bad must have happened to Daniel otherwise he would have posted a vblog by now.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-15 09:49:47</i><br /><hr />this is gotten stupid.. mabye you could lean your left arm a bit closer to the camera.. i cant notice it enough<br /><i>by FrankIsWatching on 2006-10-15 10:11:02</i><br /><hr />That makes good sense Engaged to be Married. The only problem with that is his being okay enough to post his video.  *sigh*  I hope the writers find a way around that __like, maybe someone found his camera and posted the video as a matter of interest (i.e.WTF).<br /><i>by CinnamonSun on 2006-10-15 10:16:30</i><br /><hr />I love it when people come in here to break the news to us that lonelygirl15 is fake.
Oh No! I had no idea! lol...

I think all signs point to Thelema, folks. Thelema sign on the front page 'Thelema' written in Hebrew at the bottom, Aleister Crowley on the wall, Denderah in the mix, Enochian being read.
Her religion isn't a mystery y'all. It's Thelemic. The 'clues' are actually a bit overwhelming.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-10-15 10:22:01</i><br /><hr />Jessica (post #317),

Jessica Rose lives with a girlfriend in an apartment north of Los Angeles.  It's a typical apartment, no penthouse or anything very fancy.  She's very much into hanging with her lady friends.  Two of her good friends are Jen and Amy.  They like to party and go out drinking.  One of her very dear friends works as a hostess in a restaurant.  Jessica feels she's been bless because she has been able to enjoy many places such as NZ, Salisbury and LA.  I've heard that she's been getting lots of acting offers for TV and movies.  She's probably going over scripts and consulting with her agent.

Yousef is also living in the greater Los Angeles area and is very much in love with his girl friend.  There are pictures of him with his girlfriend at the Aquarium of the Pacific in Long Beach.  I would imagine that Yousef is doing the same thing as Jessica, looking at scrips and consulting with his agent.

Jessica and Yousef have hung out together at parties.  Probably cast and crew parties associated with the making of LG15.  There's a really cute picture of them posted on one of Yousef's private MySpace.com page.

Both of them have multiple MySpace accounts.  I'm sure most of them are fake ones for people (like me) who go snoopying around, LOL!  Hey, we all like them and we just all want to know more about these cute kids, right?  Too bad they don't do a People Magazine interview and talk about their lives outside of acting.  Then we could learn more about the real Jessica and the real Yousef.

Anyway, that's all I'm saying because the two of them are entitled to their privacy.  I just hope they know that being an actor, their private lives are often invaded by the media and the public.  However, I wish them both success and happiness.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-15 10:22:51</i><br /><hr />Ever notice that after she says "I wasn't going to post this because I thought I'd be too weak but....I feel great" she looks to the side and pusres her lips. Obviously not great. I agree with the people saying that she is lying. Either she has been told to lie or it has been heavily implied that she should lie or else...<br /><i>by sciboo on 2006-10-15 10:24:10</i><br /><hr />I've dried up on theories. I don't want to keep speculating what could be. We need a new video to start new theories. Ughhhh... waiting....  Something should have happened between Daniel and Bree by now, if Daniel is in fact okay.<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-15 10:28:21</i><br /><hr />Moondoogle- you're right.  I don't think there are any speculations as to whether-or-not Bree's religion is Thelemic, however, the debate now lies in the nature of her particular sect.

Just as there are different denominations of Christianity, you follow?

What we want to know now is if her religion is dangerous...<br /><i>by rhemasan on 2006-10-15 10:29:36</i><br /><hr />I think the thing on her arm is from the stupid shots she had to take. I guess she stilll has to take them? i hope the stupid diet isnt going on... i hope daniel posts soon i wan tto hear more about what he saw. 
If she has MORE responsiblity im scraed. if it was bad before it will get worse. :-/ stay safe bree!<br /><i>by Emily Pen on 2006-10-15 10:29:46</i><br /><hr />Old news Moondoogle #379.  However, I think some of us continue speculating to pass the time, to continue interacting and batting around ideas, and to have fun, albeit a kind of wierd 'fun'.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-15 10:37:32</i><br /><hr />True. I'd thought it was old news too except a few post on here seem to state otherwise.
 There are several different branches, or denominations of Thelemia. Some more fundamental than others. 
 Never heard of the Order of Denderah, though Hathor does play a big part in the Thelemic philosophy altogether. She's portrayed as the Emperess in Crowley's Tarot Thoth deck among other things.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-10-15 10:42:18</i><br /><hr />I have wondered if the writers/creators were drawing from what they have read of Gardner, who claimed to have intiated Crowley into his branch of magick. Some Thelemics say this was Gardner simply being a poseur.

Garderian thema are more popular west of the Mississippi, and this takes place in CA, so perhaps they are using this.

Here's some info:
"Towards the end of his life Crowley began to lose interest in the Ordo Templi Orientis and other organisations he had fashioned as potential vehicles for the dissemination of the great work. He met Gerald Gardner and together they may have devised a plan to transform the OTO into a more popular witchcraft cult. Gardner duly bought a charter and rose rapidly through the grades, even travelling to America to meet other OTO initiates. Fred Lamond, one of Gardners first acolytes, recalls that American adept Jack Parsons looked very favourably on the idea of a new witch cult. If Crowley had lived long enough to complete Gardner's training, modern paganism would undoubtedly look quite different, but that's another story."

http://www.thewhitegoddess.co.uk/introduction/aleister_crowley.asp<br /><i>by don_quixote on 2006-10-15 10:43:42</i><br /><hr />FOund this in an article about Crowley:
"his Elixir Of Life pills - with the magical ingredients of his own sperm, always an important of his rituals - brought home the bacon, as well as some amusing letters testifying to their (and their user's) potency."
just thought it was interesting seeing as how she took pills as part of a ritual :)<br /><i>by sciboo on 2006-10-15 10:47:24</i><br /><hr />I agree Moondoogle, the Zodiac of Denderah was peripheral, and  mostly of historical interest, so the "Order" of same is puzzling.  But, then, it's the puzzle that keeps us here, no? :)<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-15 10:47:59</i><br /><hr />You feel like a completely new person, yet you still are vidoe bloggin behind your parents back?<br /><i>by joe on 2006-10-15 10:51:44</i><br /><hr />did anyone notice that her ceremony was on friday the 13th? or was it the night before? any relationship?<br /><i>by emily on 2006-10-15 10:58:50</i><br /><hr />She could be on pms you guys and if she had a shot thats like zero energy right there thus she looks exhusted and well different to say the least often during pms i know i feel like crap n end up looking like crap hahaha so my point being u think she looks differnt in her latest vid that could be why<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-15 11:16:58</i><br /><hr />Oh, and one more thing...

For those of you who are into astrology, Jessica Rose's real zodiac sign is Tauras and Yousef's is Leo.<br /><i>by Engaged to be Married on 2006-10-15 11:17:46</i><br /><hr />Engaged To be married (post 180) you sure know alot about this girl if your facts are accurate..hmmm<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-15 11:20:58</i><br /><hr />oh ya her mysoace says scorpio whats up with that not important enough to lie about<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-15 11:23:22</i><br /><hr />We are waiting............for the next video........


Or is it that Daniel was caught when he shut off the camera on his last video and he is being held against his will? hmm.........Are they brainwashing him? hmmm......<br /><i>by Waiting...... on 2006-10-15 11:23:28</i><br /><hr />On DanielBeast's YouTube page, he lists "The Zombie Survival Guide" first, among his "favorite books".
Hmmm... maybe they caught him and turned him into a Zombie. LOL!<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-15 11:27:17</i><br /><hr />I was thinking how the format of the v-blog, that the Creators are locked into, limits how way they can tell the story.

In cinema the eye of the camera is like the eye of the audience member watching a play, it is an objective outside observer. Whereas in the v-blob the eye of the camera represents the view point of one of the characters, Bree or Daniel, even when they are aiming the camera at themselves. In the Swimming video they traded off holding the camera, so the view point traded off as well.

So, even if they wanted to show more of the ceremony, they were restricted to showing it from Daniels point of view hiding in the bushes, since Bree would be unlikely to film the ceremony while participating in it.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-15 11:32:02</i><br /><hr />Looking again at the Hepatitis C theory, these are side effects of taking the shots.

"Side effects from interferon include severe flu-like symptoms, irritability, depression, concentration and memory problems and insomnia. Ribavirin can cause a low red blood cell count (anemia), gout and birth defects. Both drugs can cause skin irritation and extreme fatigue. A small number of people taking combined pegylated interferon and ribavirin may experience psychosis or suicidal behavior."

It states that side effects are most severe during the first few weeks of treatment. This could also account for Bree's recent behavior. I want to look at other possible injections before I'm convinced that she's been prepping against this virus.<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-15 11:33:44</i><br /><hr />so uh Engaged to be married whats your sighn?<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-15 11:41:11</i><br /><hr />Uhhmmm.
I don't know if you guys were listening but she said she was gettin shotes once a week.
THAT IS WHAT THE BANDAGE IS!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by Raquel on 2006-10-15 11:43:53</i><br /><hr />well its L.A. there are so many possibilities for drugs and or shots i man hello look at celebraties and what a mess some of there lives are with drugs<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-15 11:44:46</i><br /><hr />yaya we know that we just wanna know what the shots are  besides she said once a week but we only see her with a bandage in two videos..<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-15 11:47:35</i><br /><hr />Bree could be taking something else that causes low red blood cells for her to counter that with the iron pills. Personally, I think the elders wanted her on a strict diet of detoxifying her body. I think we're all pretty convinced that she had to spill some blood at the ceremony because of her preparation medically. They did choose her because of her purity (her dad was concerned at one point that she wasn't going to be able to perform at the ceremony). So, the strict diet may have been to rid of all the toxins from her body so she could really be presented pure.<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-15 11:48:38</i><br /><hr />Jessica#398 the shots are part of the plot of a fictional story, and I don't think the fictional story takes place in L.A., so what celebrities do in L.A. is irrelevant. The shots have to fit the plot.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-15 11:50:28</i><br /><hr />I wonder what REALLY happened at the ceremonay?<br /><i>by Katie on 2006-10-15 11:56:54</i><br /><hr />I can't wait to see your next video!<br /><i>by Katie on 2006-10-15 12:00:11</i><br /><hr />I want to see what happens next!<br /><i>by Katie on 2006-10-15 12:02:08</i><br /><hr />Ho-hum. Waiting waiting waiting...

I did just notice one thing, though. The picture on the bookshelf disappears after Bree's "Daniel Crossed The Line" vlog. Maybe the picture is supposed to be of Daniel and his friends?<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-10-15 12:19:22</i><br /><hr />I have to confess to not knowing where this is going at this point.  As others have commented, the ceremony was a total anti-climax in the chronology of telling the story.  That can't be fixed by later revelations about what happened there.  I was away from the computer for a few days, so it was a big let down and come back to find the 2 most recent videos.

I agree with the commenter that something big is going to have to happen soon to hold my interest, or I'll tune out.  But unlike that commenter, I don't have great optimism in the power of the writers.

I will say that Daniel's latest video shows him to be a slightly better actor.  I could suspend disbelief and think he really was in great fear.<br /><i>by attorneydc on 2006-10-15 12:24:12</i><br /><hr />Okay, there is still a ton that we dont know!
We need to know actually what Bree's religion IS, we need know what happened at the ceremony, and we REALLY need to know more about Cassie!

Please, start bringing in some more characters for LG15!<br /><i>by Matt on 2006-10-15 12:45:51</i><br /><hr />You know, Now we all now this is fake &amp; you people want to continue this subpar Soap. Please make it intresting. First off have her Dump Daniel Beast and hire someone eles who dosnt look like a circus freak. Maybe someone whos handsome to be her new boyfriend. Get her out of this cult thing and maybe have he runaway from home just after she discovers that her family is going to sacrifice her to Hannibal Lecter. Then have her move to Vegas and become one of those Showgirls. Because really the only reason anyone is watching now is because they find Bree (Jessica) to be Hot. So give them what they want. But really if your going to post these. At least make them more intresting. Lets see the crazy mom and dad. Please spice it up. Have mom chop off dad head or something. come on.<br /><i>by cooler on 2006-10-15 12:46:22</i><br /><hr />Theory: Blood was drawn from Bree at the ceremony for an â€œAleister Crowleyâ€ blood ritual. She was then given a shot of Vitamin B12 in the arm to help her *replace the lost blood. 

Found that on the LGpedia right on this website. Does anyone know who edits those? Do we contribute, or is it the creators of this site?<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-15 13:16:10</i><br /><hr />gostei muito das suas histÃ³rias apesar d nÃ£o enterder inglÃªs muito mas Ã© muito divetida as caras que vocÃª faz ao falar<br /><i>by gabriel on 2006-10-15 13:21:20</i><br /><hr />Was Lucy sent away like priests are sent away?<br /><i>by Jonny on 2006-10-15 13:25:36</i><br /><hr />Hey i just went on youtube and saw your most recent video so what happened to lucy if you dont mind me asking hey if anyone on your site can tell me please do<br /><i>by Kane on 2006-10-15 13:25:47</i><br /><hr />I just read a part of the forum where people are trying to figure out all the strange tags. Remember how we were just trying to figure out "barnacle?" Well, it turns out that practically all of her videos have at least one irrelevant tag relating to animals. She put up a "hampster" tag for 5 of her videos. To read up on the discussion, go to the Forums at the top of the page, then click on "Strange Tags."<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-15 13:29:50</i><br /><hr />WAITING FOR A NEW VIDEO!!!  PLEASE HURRY!!  I CANT TAKE MUCH MORE SUSPENSE!!  ACK!!!<br /><i>by Tracy on 2006-10-15 13:31:31</i><br /><hr />please hurry with the next video...can not wait anymore !!!<br /><i>by Victor on 2006-10-15 13:41:38</i><br /><hr />Can someone please fill me in on why LG15 would be too weak and why she sometimes wears those bandaids and stuff on her arm? Thanks.
Email me here - hilariiousloserr@gmail.com<br /><i>by Hillary on 2006-10-15 13:47:05</i><br /><hr />The more I watch this video (waiting for the next one), the more I notice things. There is one part of the video where there is black space between shots, longer than we've ever seen in her other videos. Here's a quick transcript of what follows before that black space...

"It was amazing studying all these things for months, and then seeing them all used in one night. The language, the steps, the discipline..." 

Are we supposed to be alerted here by what "discipline" is supposed to mean?<br /><i>by silkyworm on 2006-10-15 13:58:53</i><br /><hr />silkworm#413 I don't know who edits that but that is a exact quote of something modelmotion said #336<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-10-15 14:01:03</i><br /><hr />this is getting anoying

LETS HAVE A NEW VIDEO ALLREADY<br /><i>by yoshi on 2006-10-15 14:03:43</i><br /><hr />She doesn't really seem to have much of a personality anymore.  She used to be pretty cute.  I just watched some old vids and I miss adorable bouncy bree...remember when she made lemonade?  I am pretty bored now.  If the next vid or two is like these last ones (like last 11)  I am done watching.  Without her being funny and spontaneous, I don't care about some random teenage drama.  Come on creators, bring back Daniel and help her have fun again.<br /><i>by frankie on 2006-10-15 14:20:17</i><br /><hr />i think you are the most beautiful girl i have ever seen and i actually dont know what you are talking about but i like listening to you cause you are so sweet .  i guess i am not the first person to say that but anyways i am a good guy . write a mail lonelygirl15 please . i am glad that there is youtube otherwise i would have never seen you .<br /><i>by moe on 2006-10-15 14:26:23</i><br /><hr />what does all this mean?<br /><i>by Brittany on 2006-10-15 14:35:52</i><br /><hr />What happened to the old bree? I miss her.  This whole thing about the ceremony is getting kind of boring to be honest.  I want the videos like the one about the cookies and the daniel monster back.  And bree when are you going to wake up and realise that Daniel only wants the best for you!<br /><i>by bourgie on 2006-10-15 14:36:20</i><br /><hr />start sneaking out to talk to daniel again. then start sneaking him into your house.<br /><i>by Lindsey on 2006-10-15 14:41:30</i><br /><hr />The possible reasons I can think of for the creators not having posted a follow-up episode are:
1)they have a misguided sense of how to create suspense and keep the audience on the edge of their seats (the shelf life of each episode is shorter than they are gauging).
2)they are at a loss as to what to do next and are still brainstorming.
3) one of the actors needed for the next episode is out of town/sleeping off a hangover/at a different job.
4)one or more of the creators is out of town/sleeping off a hangover/at a different job.
5) they are watching these pleading, begging posts and are laughing (good naturedly no doubt).


Whatever the case, this has become tedious.  Peace out.<br /><i>by Zach on 2006-10-15 14:48:41</i><br /><hr />BRING DANIEL BACK !!
i like him. you guys are perfect togather!! and whats on your arm?? im glad ur cerimony went well but start thinking baout ur social life like DANIEL<br /><i>by Lea on 2006-10-15 15:10:28</i><br /><hr />hehe... just popped in, saw nothing new and went back and watched grillz.. that's gotta be my favorite one out of all the videos!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-10-15 15:10:28</i><br /><hr />hola soy de argentina un gustaso ke linda chica ke sos un gusto :P ke hago aka no se pero buehh... espero ke lo leas agregame al msn ahi esta suerte<br /><i>by alex on 2006-10-15 15:12:54</i><br /><hr />I think you left you one other possibility, Zah: technical snarls.  I just saw that they were trying to post another episode "Following".  I clicked on it and got "server not found".  There's plenty of potential for technical difficulty with a site the supports vids.<br /><i>by don_quixote on 2006-10-15 15:21:31</i><br /><hr />it was actually "following the helper"  and i want to see it dammit<br /><i>by moi on 2006-10-15 15:23:05</i><br /><hr />Hi girl =]
you are fine??
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=*<br /><i>by Goiaba on 2006-10-15 15:32:47</i><br /><hr />I have a theory:

Daniel was wondering why Bree would still be getting shots when the ceremony was over. Maybe the "ceremony" that night was just a ploy to throw Daniel of guard so he thought it was over, and maybe they even forced Bree to talk about it in a Video so it would be more convincing.<br /><i>by Inigo on 2006-10-15 16:46:42</i><br /><hr />oh really robtommorow thanks for that peace of info i wasnt aware that it was a fictional story four n half months in to it or that everones guesses for the upcoming videos were irellavant geez my bad...<br /><i>by Jessica on 2006-10-15 18:55:32</i><br /><hr />Sooo. Let's create a drinking game everytime Bree begins a vlog with, "sooo...."<br /><i>by Richard on 2006-10-15 20:38:34</i><br /><hr />Lisa: Stockholm Syndrome doesn't mean 'only if you're kidnapped,' -- it is apparent even in some cases of abused spouses and girlfriends etc: Where they don't leave the abuser even under extreme conditions and even side with their abuser. This is  a prime example of a 'willing captive' who still exhibits symptoms of Stockholm Syndrome. 

Having said that, I personally don't think it's Stockholme Syndrome-- to me it's more like brainwashing than abuse. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing<br /><i>by Dee on 2006-10-16 02:14:33</i><br /><hr />damn that dude has a big f'in nose....<br /><i>by Andre on 2006-10-16 08:45:39</i><br /><hr />Umm.. what'd they do to her arm?<br /><i>by Rochelle on 2006-10-16 11:08:57</i><br /><hr />she looks so sad.<br /><i>by kneeleigh on 2006-10-16 12:16:16</i><br /><hr />I would say that it seems like she has  Stockholm Syndrome.<br /><i>by Katie on 2006-10-16 16:56:35</i><br /><hr />For finishing such a great ceremony, she doesn't seem that excited.<br /><i>by Heather on 2006-10-16 20:08:13</i><br /><hr />This cult thing is kinda creepy, I must say.  Secret religions and ceremonies are not healthy, and I don't really want to watch Bree going down this path.  The fact that you won't say what the cult is is clever, and it does get people intrigued, but mostly it is annoying.

I have a real hard time sympathizing w/ Bree on this one.  I think she should reject her parents religion.<br /><i>by briteness on 2006-10-16 21:49:17</i><br /><hr />I'm glad everything went well for you lonely15, making that step from normality to Lucifer's slave is intially difficult but after the crowds descend from Gabrielle's arch I believe the blood will taste that much morbid, and that's good. Welcome back to the mecca my poison mental sister, we shall reign supreme...666///<br /><i>by MontaukSatanist on 2006-10-17 12:41:03</i><br /><hr />Is it just me, or does Bree look kind of bad? She's too skinny and her face is really drawn ...<br /><i>by La_Isla_Bonita on 2006-10-17 13:52:43</i><br /><hr />i find it quite funny that people feel so angry that this is a fake it is quite obvious and i think its entertaining plus she is fit as hell im so pleased she isnt 16 that would be bad<br /><i>by brownie on 2006-10-20 09:58:24</i><br /><hr />wtf is on your arm!!!<br /><i>by Vanessa on 2006-10-20 15:58:09</i><br /><hr />im so" in"love"with" you"<br /><i>by loyd78@excite.com on 2006-10-21 02:50:42</i><br /><hr />what is this whole ceremony about are they like vampires lmao cus shes havin shots and is on a diet and whats wid daniel always havin his face right in the cam on his shoots lmao well im confused :S:S:S<br /><i>by Alex on 2006-10-23 14:13:49</i><br /><hr />wow you're beautiful :D my msn is micke_grannas@hotmail.com ;D<br /><i>by Micke on 2006-10-24 01:02:28</i><br /><hr />Halo, my e-mail: dadamoga@msn.com and chat.<br /><i>by Dani on 2006-10-28 03:42:25</i><br /><hr />online cainos bsj online cainos
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  I love your show! bye<br /><i>by GorgeousBree on 2007-04-10 22:44:20</i><br /><hr />Haha, I'm glad I'm more interested in religion than Gorgeous, otherwise it probably would be a little boring. However, this weird occult-ish stuff only spurs my imagination, I love it. Cheers to our lovely actors, and the thickening plot.<br /><i>by greebo sanders on 2007-09-29 15:25:47</i><br /><hr />NOt a good religion aT ALL! you look like your gonna die.<br /><i>by loried2008 on 2008-03-29 07:57:55</i><br /><hr />trait positive? i think theyre not giving shots they're drawing blood. they want her blood so the elders live longer.  sorry it thats a spoiler.. but i think thats what theyre doing. and they used those [ills just to make it look good so it doesnt look like they're tampering with her &amp; more like theyre doing something good for her... thats why shes always weak all the time and shes not allowed to eat i think. they need her blood!<br /><i>by cleversmynamee on 2008-05-24 12:10:31</i><br /><hr /></td></tr><table></center>