| FIIIIRRRRSSSTTTT!!!!! by LONGTIMELURKER on 2007-02-27 14:22:33 first by Obelisk on 2007-02-27 14:22:38 YAYAYYAYYAYYA FIRSTTTT!!!! by bumpkin on 2007-02-27 14:22:41 Heyyy by StandingInLine on 2007-02-27 14:22:56 top 10 by sailormoon101 on 2007-02-27 14:23:10 w00t! by sonieee on 2007-02-27 14:23:15 TOP 10!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOO HOO LOL by tina5314 on 2007-02-27 14:23:17 Top 10? by Claireh on 2007-02-27 14:23:19 top 10??? by Joel on 2007-02-27 14:24:16 Top ten? by jessica629 on 2007-02-27 14:24:38 Whoo hoo! by jessica629 on 2007-02-27 14:24:55 whoa, wtf by Morgan on 2007-02-27 14:25:01 WHOA! by ThePoet on 2007-02-27 14:25:04 yay new vid :]] by saffystar on 2007-02-27 14:27:19 OMG I AM IN TEH TOP 1057847584937589437589437 Anyway, wow, I still by Morgan on 2007-02-27 14:27:48 Sweeet by forbol1 on 2007-02-27 14:27:55 yo! by kermatron on 2007-02-27 14:27:57 WHAT It cut my comment off!!! ;-; by Morgan on 2007-02-27 14:28:53 FIIIIIIIIIIIIIRSSSSSSSSTTTTT!!!!!1!!!!!!11!!!!! and major meepage... by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-02-27 14:29:02 top 20? by princessalison on 2007-02-27 14:29:21 Bree tied Jonas up! That's awesome. by ashleyrenae712 on 2007-02-27 14:29:52 I wish they would have shown Jonas tied up while Bree was "yelling at him for an hour" maybe in a dark room with a swinging light above his head. by OrangeHoney on 2007-02-27 14:29:53 Top 20! My first time posting and never saw it under 400 when I saw a video. by nylcaj on 2007-02-27 14:30:06 top 30 YAY by CrazyIvan1745 on 2007-02-27 14:30:32 yay top 30! by Seaflower22 on 2007-02-27 14:30:37 THANK YOU Daniel for being rational!! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-27 14:30:51 whaaaaaaaaa? Hmm, I'm incline to believe the bro/sis theory...Jonas's parents are in the Order! Woot! by notabenz on 2007-02-27 14:30:58 #15 continued... "Anyway, wow, I still *heart* Daniel. But I don't think Bree is nuts. I think she is being cautious and finally taking charge. SHE knows the most out of the three of them (unless Jonas is of the order), she should be in charge. GO BREE! by Morgan on 2007-02-27 14:30:58 Woooot top 50!!! Meep CCCCCCCLLLLLLIIIIIIICCCCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! by sarahboo on 2007-02-27 14:32:04 top 30? by Armus on 2007-02-27 14:32:49 As much as I am against jumping the gun here, I do think it's strange that Jonas never mentioned that thing that was always lying around his cabin... Nevertheless, I'm still not ready to write him off as a bad guy. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-27 14:33:10 So, if Jonas says that the symbol has been there as long as he can remember, then it probably has to do something with his parents. Jonas probably has no clue what his parents were into before they vanished at sea. by OrangeHoney on 2007-02-27 14:33:37 "posh spice bit" this is what makes me keep coming back... by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 14:33:44 omg - untie Jonas! he might give up more info without ropes and yelling. posh spice - hee! by kellyg on 2007-02-27 14:34:09 Good clear head, Daniel. Stay on Jonas' good side, so that if he clears his name (it's not very dirty) you can patch things up with your buddy. by SharpI on 2007-02-27 14:34:13 I know Jonas is innocent, or at least I hope so! by ShaynaVida17 on 2007-02-27 14:35:03 OMG im this close by LCAF on 2007-02-27 14:35:14 Thanks for being the smart one of the bunch Daniel. Seriously. by KT (stardust87) on 2007-02-27 14:36:11 time out - dude you were captured and brainwashed. Are you sure that your judgement is sound? by theplotthickens on 2007-02-27 14:37:49 Top 40? by ardra42 on 2007-02-27 14:39:28 FFFfffFFiiiIIiiRRrrRRRssSSSSssTTttTT!!11!11 *Kisses Dream*! *Salutes the General* *meep*!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 14:39:31 glad i got to see this before i left work. my computer is so slow at home that i can tell a new vid is out but i can't do anything about it lol. more comments tomorrow. BTW Hold her back Daniel I think you're right. Jonas is good, he has no clue what is going on. Til tomorrow...... by megs229 on 2007-02-27 14:39:48 ack!!! it's like bree has found the evidence of the WMDs and no one can persuade her otherwise. ------------------------------------------- http://milowent.blogspot.com lg15 blog & links to other lg15 newssites ------------------------------------------- by milowent on 2007-02-27 14:40:10 LOL The title cracked me up. Although I think Daniel may be right and she shouldn't tie him up (lol), Bree has a lot of reasons to be as paranoid as she is about Jonas. But anyway, cool videos! by belu214 on 2007-02-27 14:42:39 omg!! :'( i think jonas is inocent!! he is the hottest character so far :( !! by lenogaara on 2007-02-27 14:43:06 Well, I hate to say it, but it looks like the Bree/Jonas sibling theory may hold some water afterall. If this turnabout was 'circumstantial' I'd have problems with it the same as I do any soap opera, but it seems to tie in, so...so, I hope I'll be okay with it... by Moondoogle on 2007-02-27 14:43:07 i agree with katie thank god for daniel being the more sensible one =O by DeathsLie on 2007-02-27 14:43:24 FFFFFFFIIIRRRSSSTTT!!!!!!!11111!!!11 *meep* Wow, wasn't expecting a new vid already! by P_Monkey_Is_A_Wanker on 2007-02-27 14:44:27 top 50? by logana on 2007-02-27 14:47:11 Logana you just made it by LCAF on 2007-02-27 14:48:22 HOLLLYYYYY SHEET! this is insane! i think its all going to end with Bree going down in a blaze of glory. guns and all. by Silence141 on 2007-02-27 14:49:07 I just started watching her video's and I'm kinda confused... what religion is she and what are the shots and pills she is taking??? by cheer0910 on 2007-02-27 14:50:23 i say tie Bree up by notlikecrazii on 2007-02-27 14:51:09 daaamn, it won't play right now for me. by stargirl on 2007-02-27 14:51:16 and isnt this a vid that show Tachy in Jonas's bedroom? And isn't the symbol that Bree found the thing that Tachy picks up? http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=195 I know not Cannon, but........ by theplotthickens on 2007-02-27 14:51:34 It won't play :( :'( MEEP MEEP PLAY MEEP IT! by RaeRae on 2007-02-27 14:52:21 heh, close one, but just made it :) i don't think anyone in that situation could b blamed for being 'intense' as he puts it. Also, a lotta ppl seem to be saying it could b Jonas's parents and nothing to do with him - wouldn't that b stretching coincidence a little too far, that his parents were involved, he knew nothing at all, but then got himself involved randomly later in life? What I wanna know is where/how exactly that tach package was foud - if it was just found in the car up @ the cabin, then one person (tach or otherwise) coulda planted both that + this symbol (whatever the heck it was on) by logana on 2007-02-27 14:54:42 the vid is on the right hand side, called Who is that Girl? by theplotthickens on 2007-02-27 14:55:35 this is good by missmelanie on 2007-02-27 14:56:45 Jonas is one of them! Bree and Daniel need to get the heck out of there. And leave Jonas tied up. The order is probly still watching them. Who was Jonas calling in the Yellow Snow video? Who would be giving him directions, his parents!? Oh yeah I forgot they were lost at sea. There has never been any mention of any other family members for Jonas. So who else knows about this vacation cabin? I'll tell you the Order. And where is the cabin? In the woods. Where was the ceremony suppose to take place? In the woods. Things that make you go Hmmm by seeit on 2007-02-27 14:57:20 What if Jonas's parents were part of the Order or whatever? And maybe the reason they were "lost at sea" was because they didn't want to do the whole thing anymore, they felt like they were betraying him or they found out something bad and they went to the higher ups and told them that they were going to tell Jonas everything and the higher ups got rid of them and made it look like an accident? That would be interesting. Oh oh, and then the order or whoever is trying to get both Bree and Jonas to be part of the ceremony cause it's like a special ceremony where they need a male and a female. That would be an interesting turn. by heatherlynn on 2007-02-27 14:57:21 Personally, I think Bree is crazy too. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-27 14:57:34 i bet they're filming this up at big bear. by hollishillis on 2007-02-27 14:58:40 It must've been his parents'! I think Bree is going CRAZY over this when she shouldn't have, and I really don't want Jonas to be guilty b/c he's HOT and I want Bree & Jonas to get together. She had him tied up?? Anyway I think Bree's going to be really pissed when she sees this video by blanqed on 2007-02-27 15:01:45 Britney Spears and Bree have both lost their minds. by hollishillis on 2007-02-27 15:02:14 'bout time someone realised Bree was just overeacting.. by camo on 2007-02-27 15:02:49 It's no coincidence... but Jonas is innocent. Why? Because he's her BROTHER. They have the same family. Bree's house probably had similar symbols around. by Paulo on 2007-02-27 15:04:09 Besides, if the women say Jonas is hot, he would have to be innocent. It's just common sense. ;-) I continually thank God Herself that our judicial system works on a similar basis. by Paulo on 2007-02-27 15:06:50 Hmmm, this definitely points towards the "it was Jonas' parents" hypothesis... then again, Bree might be right. The irony of this situation is that Bree and Daniel are now taking the exact opposite standpoints as they did during their homeless period, back when Bree wanted them to stay with Jonas and Daniel completely distrusted him. by Rua on 2007-02-27 15:07:44 I hope they find out this was all a lie.. I want things back to normal.. this is all so far fetched by catherinexx on 2007-02-27 15:08:44 sooo jonas is still tied up during all this? oh my.... O_O by rubyred11 on 2007-02-27 15:09:16 No matter what the story line might be... CREATORS... you GOTTA show Jonas in ropes, chains and duct tape. You simply MUST! The women will to see it and so will the men. (Each from a different perspective.) by Paulo on 2007-02-27 15:10:56 so it seems Daniel doesnt beleive Jonas is part of the Order so Im guessing he didnt help tie jonas up? if thats so....bree is one strong lady! ok enough of my rambling! :) by rubyred11 on 2007-02-27 15:11:16 Does anyone else think that maybe the symbol with only two legs might represent Bree? Which would make the watcher symbol the people who protect her... Just a thought. by OrangeHoney on 2007-02-27 15:12:02 Woah, Bree tied him up and screamed at him? Hard core. Man I wish that had been on camera. That posh spice line made me chuckle a bit though. XD by ginny_potter on 2007-02-27 15:12:06 paulo.. if jonas + bree have both always told the truth about their parents, how do you account for when they were small kids + jonas lived with his parents - and Bree also lived with her parents? by logana on 2007-02-27 15:15:10 please, transcript for those at work?!!?! DYING HERE!! by ssskinner on 2007-02-27 15:16:15 Yay! something one of the earlier posters said... somewhere below the 50th comment They said that maybee Daniel's judgement can't be trusted now because of his kidnapping. maybee you can have bree accuse daniel of this and cast doubt on him, Daniel will get peeved, and say something to the effect that she's only getting so worked up because she's got feelings for jonas. Bree Slaps him. maybee this can happen after daniel has to restrain her and take her to a different room to talk. Oh maybee this can be a opAphid vid. Hidden cameras film the fight. OpAphid Voice: Trouble in paradise, this is what happens when you only have one eve to two adams. The mathjust doesnt allow for it... unless your creative... The fact you guys said that jonas always knew it was there is troubling though to my whole jonas is innocent theory. Maybee it wasn't really on display but the symbol face was hidden and bree kinda broke it off by accident and discovered it. Jonas just knows where it came off of. And to those of you saying that it maybe unrealistic that jonas's parents may have had connections to the order in some way... ... have you seen the series? ( no offence creators, Love the series. [Thumbs up]) Also notice people that Daniel is the one to come to jonas defence even though in the past he has displayed... less than rational behaviour. And their both interested in bree no less so that shows that daniel has really matured in some ways. Good work creators, Can't wait for the next vid Quazi by Quazi on 2007-02-27 15:16:16 top 100!! whee by lilhypernicki on 2007-02-27 15:17:07 top 100!! whee by lilhypernicki on 2007-02-27 15:17:07 Um, so no love triangle? Incidentally, if that symbol's been there as long as Jonas can remember, his parents might've been killed by the order, and not members of it. He probably wouldn't know that if he was a tot when they died. Crazy old Bree, tying up boys and yelling right after playing with them in the snow. Multiple personality disorder much? by Lizard on 2007-02-27 15:17:10 OoOoOo...Its getting good now..finally by x__Nicola on 2007-02-27 15:17:53 oh, and someone tell WO that 24/7 is a movie by logana on 2007-02-27 15:20:42 Incidentally, it seems to me the rational thing to do from the start where Jonas is concerned would be to verify his story. His parents were wealthy. Maybe they were socialites and their disappearance made the headlines. Regardless, there had to have been an obituary. Plus, you can find all kinds of information from a person's past through public records. I can do a public records search at the law school and find everything down to what someone ate for breakfast on a Monday five years ago, just about. (But I don't. Cause I'm not a weirdo.) If Bree's relly a smarty pants researching machine, she needs to sit her booty down with a computer and find information on Jonas. Make a few calls, even. If you're going to interrogate someone, you need ammunition. If you have no way to confirm anything they say and tell if they're lying, you're just swinging in the dark. by Lizard on 2007-02-27 15:20:53 EEEK by hella_samira on 2007-02-27 15:21:18 p.p.s. nice to see another neuralnet vid, that looks like a fun project :) by logana on 2007-02-27 15:22:12 I think that Jonas was a victim of the Order. I believe his parents had died at sea to protect Jonas from being caught by the Order. They had told him to be patient..and to not trust anyone, and when he saw what had happened to Bree he needed to save her just like he was saved by his parents. That'd be SWEET. by RoseKasey on 2007-02-27 15:25:05 Top 100! It looks like Daniel isn't force feeding Jonas ice cream after all.... I better watch the video... by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 15:27:15 hahah ya right, there all crazy thats what it comes down to by blondeambition on 2007-02-27 15:27:25 logana brees parents weren't her biological parents by LCAF on 2007-02-27 15:27:31 Logana, Bree didn't live with her PARENTS, remember? Her "Dad" told her he wasn't her real father. They're siblings I tells ya. (But if the creators read this, they'll make them cousins just to make me wrong.) by Paulo on 2007-02-27 15:32:18 Bree's flipped..oh dear (*pictures Bree playing good cop, bad cop with P.monkey as good cop...*) by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 15:36:04 well..... she should have atleast been alittle more aware. but who knows maybe its a trick maybe it was planted in the house by someone to make bree think that jonas is the bad guy or maybe daniel is working for the order after all he was kidnapped by apocalypse46 on 2007-02-27 15:42:16 oh yeah *slaps head* I used to so know what was going on, but then it got all dull there for a while + i kinda got a youtube addiction + forgot most of the plot details by logana on 2007-02-27 15:47:19 whoawahowaho by lets_steal_everythin on 2007-02-27 15:47:57 i think they are related or something like that and jonas is just trying to protect her...i hope she hasn't gone totally crazy. by rosebud2464 on 2007-02-27 15:49:51 #83 logana...LOL !! Actually, so is "Tied Up" and "One on One".... Too many possible movie references...no pattern has developed...I can't see the movies meaning anything anymore! *slaps head on desk for wasted hours of research...* by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 15:52:38 I keep getting a message that the video cannot be found! by Sanderella on 2007-02-27 15:54:47 I think its a scam to make jonas look like he is a bad guy...But than again..he is the one that let u two in his home...and daniel cant remember what happened when he was kidnapped...this is getting confusing! ok from the beginning... gemma was a friend of brees...but she backstabbed bree. Daniel was kidnapped by the order, bree and jonas got him back...daniel doesnt remember what the heck happened...(or does he??? maybe he just doesnt want to tell anyone cause he is scared?! I dunno), jonas hasnt made any video blogs yet...so whats up with him?! he took bree and daniel into his home...how is he getting all the money he has now...please tell me the secret on that so I dont have to work haha. uhh but yeah...this is good! more videosssssssss..hopefully we see what jonas has to say! xoxo kratz by kratzlaff on 2007-02-27 15:57:11 worf. by supasamurai on 2007-02-27 15:59:51 I am inclined to be suspicious of Jonas, but if he were a part of the order why didn't he sabotage Tachyon and Brother's rescue of Daniel? by GypsyQueen on 2007-02-27 16:03:54 if jonas IS with the order somehow its safe to say he is probably a litle smarter than you guys. im glad to see some doubt from daniel. and how did they get jonas tied up? i like u daniel but i think jonas could take you. by Silence141 on 2007-02-27 16:04:54 Can't watch video, but I have to say this is the best title ever. Next will be "Jonas Is Gay" and "Daniel Is a Whinny Baby" It will be known as the "let's state the obvious" videos. MEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Joe on 2007-02-27 16:06:15 FFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!! *salutes the general* *meep* by Perky on 2007-02-27 16:08:45 dammit, WO, and we were all hoping you'd uncover the mysteries of LG15 with this one ;) i guess that even if they intended to do a movie drop clue, there are so many titles which are just phrases you'd wanna use anyway, that you'd have too many red herrings in there to get a coherent message outta it. by logana on 2007-02-27 16:09:04 Jonas is tied up eh? I'm there... by CharliBean on 2007-02-27 16:10:40 Time to check out the nanny. Bree, ask Jonas about his nanny. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 16:11:55 oh, one other thought - if dannny boy, the guy who knows out Breeny baby better than anyone is making a point of saying how weird she's being, could this have anything to do with poss mood alteraions from the injections? i know she stopped having them a LONG while ago now, but if she'd been taking them for so long, mby it ook ages to get outta her system. or mby i need to get some sleep. by logana on 2007-02-27 16:12:45 Daniel, you know her best. You know how to calm her down. Keep everyone safe, but heed her distrust for Jonas. You are in the most danger and the most vulnerable. Please be careful. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 16:15:48 Bree...could she be as crazy as a fox??? **************meep!!*********************** by Veronica on 2007-02-27 16:27:56 hummm by modelmotion on 2007-02-27 16:42:48 I'm not sure I understand the logistics of tying Jonas up... There is absolutely no way Bree could do it if he were unwilling. Unless he is a really heavy sleeper she couldn't do it when he was asleep. Daniel might have managed it, but I doubt he would be willing. What did she do? Drug Jonas? Seduce him? by Strinka on 2007-02-27 16:44:32 When Daniel looks down in the middle of his sentence, it reminds me of people looking at their cellphone. Does the sentence structure there give any clues? Is he trying to get contact with Tachyon? Is he a brainwashed plant by the order? by dapm44 on 2007-02-27 16:46:12 Bree, I know your goal is not to hurt Jonas, but to get some answers. Screaming at him might not be what is necessary. I have done some research for some non-violent, but efficient ways to make Jonas talk. The best source of gathering information might be "Chinese Water Torture." This is where drops of water fall on the forehead of the captive. It is random, and slow drips that eventually drives the captive crazy and ready to talk. It may take a while, but can work to the captors advantage. S.A.R.A.H. P.S. Feed him, do not let him go hungry. But no full meals. P.P.S. Remember to ask him about the nanny that raised him after his parents disappeared. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 16:51:30 If we assume that the symbol was something left by his rents then its possible that Jonas knows nothing about it. However that means that his rents just happen to be in the Order. Now given that how likely is it that Jonas just happened to pick out Bree on uchoob??????? by modelmotion on 2007-02-27 16:51:52 hmmmm i likey insanity. anyways why am i thinking of oceans 11 or something like that on hearing about jonas being bound? oh well um good luck by Sin puppy on 2007-02-27 16:52:17 Bree could have tied up Jonas if she took him by surprise and knocked him out first. It would be risky (could kill him or seriously hurt him), but that could be one explanation. And if she was upset enough, maybe she did that. You'd think Daniel would have said that though. But then, there's ALWAYS key information left out of these videos, isn't there. by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-27 16:57:59 i still have hope that jonas is innocent. danielbeast is at least staying level headed. i guess bree freaking out had to come sooner or later. i really don't think jonas is who she should take it out on. we'll see i guess. meeeeeeeep! by starlightandpoison on 2007-02-27 17:02:41 Maybe Jonas is innocent. If you ask me, his parents are either still alive and working for the order, or they were killed by the order. But I suppose there's still the possibility that Jonas is the bad guy... by santa_evita93 on 2007-02-27 17:03:54 ok...so... I don't know..I still think Jonas is innocent..Now I'm starting to think that Bree is working for the order instead of trying to get away from it..How don't ask I just do. by Pretty_Mely22 on 2007-02-27 17:05:08 oh and how on earth would Bree be able to tie Jonas up all by herself..I'm thinking maybe Daniel helped..I mean Jonas is strong, unless he let himself be tied up knowing that Bree was just letting off some steam. I mean I don't know. by Pretty_Mely22 on 2007-02-27 17:06:51 So how exactly did Bree manage to tie Jonas up? Did Daniel help her? Did she hit Jonas over the head with a frying pan? Now, what is Bree going to do to Daniel when she sees this video? Tie him up too? Make the "bros" watch the movies she wants to watch? A little more information on where the 'artwork' was and what it is exactly would be good too... maybe they should be looking around for more. by QtheC on 2007-02-27 17:07:03 I think Bree is right. I mean, Jonas has a lot of the same qualities as Bree, though some of them are abstract. For example, he said in his first video that he liked learning new things, but wasn't into going to school. Bree was homeschooled. Perhaps Jonas was, too? Anyway, in one of Bree's videos, she said something about the order finding children at a young age that have certain qualities that they look for in order to be taken into the order members' homes. She did say that they were girls, but maybe there's something different that happened with boys? Or he was 'sibling' with one of the girls? All this said, I'm pretty sure Jonas himself isn't aware of it. Yes, he might be lying about his parents, but I don't think he knows any more than they do. However, this might place them in even more danger. We'll just have to find out more information. by withoutsound on 2007-02-27 17:08:39 Hi all. Maybe Jonas simply didnt fight back. I mean if was innocent (or at least pretending to be innocent)then wouldn't want to hurt bree.Or perhaps her suspicion caught him off guard and he simply was too stunned to fight back..and other things but I can't think now my brain hurts. by Opladybug on 2007-02-27 17:08:59 daniel doesn't sound 100% convinced of Jonas's innocence, i'm betting he'd've been willing to help tie him up just in case but didn't feel that yelling at himn for an hour was necessarily a good plan by logana on 2007-02-27 17:09:02 ...Or maybe it was the NANNY! by santa_evita93 on 2007-02-27 17:09:33 Would Tachyon leave Bree, who she's trying to protect, in the hands of the Order? If Jonas is a member and Daniel's been Orderized, I doubt it. Soooo confused... by vanjula on 2007-02-27 17:10:26 speaking of even more danger (123) if he IS order, then they so know where the scoobies are, and now she's announced the jonas thing, wouldn't they b sending someone over to get jonas b4 he spills any info? by logana on 2007-02-27 17:12:08 Did Daniel have a little smirk on his face at the very beginning of this video? by QtheC on 2007-02-27 17:12:21 Uh oh, I hope Bree doesn't jump to conclusions and say Daniel is working with Jonas! by truncatedslinky on 2007-02-27 17:12:44 103 Joe, you always make me laugh, but this time, I have tears in my eyes and a pain in my side, I am laughing so hard! Thank you. I had a very bad day, and you turned it around. by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 17:12:51 129 QtheC: When /doesn't/ Daniel have a smirk on his face? by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-27 17:18:28 Yes, I do believe that asking Jonas about his nanny might open up to new leads for Bree. I am not saying Jonas is guilty, but he may not realize why he became interested in Bree & Daniel's life quite yet. There is information that the nanny could provide to be very useful. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 17:18:44 it is so hard for man to communicate with insecure woman. go with your gut, young man. 3 things woman looks to man to offer: containment, committment, and provision. that's it. man seeks from woman only nourishment and representation. we humans are very rustic at our core. do you qualify as human or animal? by sroske on 2007-02-27 17:19:15 oh, if Daniel is still "under-the-brainwash-spell" of the Order he might try to hurt Jonas during a one-on-one meeting... by QtheC on 2007-02-27 17:22:25 I kind of hope Jonas is evil now. If not, I feel so bad for him. Offering his help and his resources and then being tied up and yelled at by Bree for an hour. by Determination on 2007-02-27 17:22:39 134: I can think of at least 1 other thing man seeks from woman ... rhymes with Lex. by QtheC on 2007-02-27 17:24:40 sroske: Women seek "containment" from men? Care to elaborate? by Paulo on 2007-02-27 17:26:22 Chex? by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-27 17:26:43 huh....I got the idea from the last video that Bree knew for sure that Jonas was one of them, like he admitted it or something....I don't know. But this is screwed up now. I don't know what to believe... And this video kind of blocked out the excitment of the last one, so the creators better come out with something exciting soon. A decision, and conclusion...something...to keep our excitement up. by loser078 on 2007-02-27 17:27:45 138 Paulo: I think that message is in code. by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-27 17:27:46 Specs? by Paulo on 2007-02-27 17:28:01 Flex? by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-27 17:28:28 Decks? by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-27 17:28:50 Well, I have a lot of things that were made by a lot of other people, but if someone found something that represented something else, I'm pretty sure I'd say something other than "That's always been there" I'd probably say something along the line of either where I got it, or it must have been one of my parents'... if not, he's lying... and that doesn't bode well for him. Particularly if he didn't act surprised when he saw it... I'd love to see what it looked like when he was presented with it. hmmm... by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 17:30:01 Wrecks? by Paulo on 2007-02-27 17:31:05 wow, I can't believe people actually think Bree has lost her mind. I mean, yeah, finding those watcher symbols in your home is just an everyday thing right? YEAH I found one in my bathroom this morning! XO COME ON. He HAS to be a part of this. How else would it be there!??!! by Morgan on 2007-02-27 17:31:07 Perplex? by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-27 17:31:41 I think this matter might be cleared up when we know what the symbols actually mean... so we probably need to hear from Tachyon again. by QtheC on 2007-02-27 17:32:06 OH, Carmex! by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-27 17:32:34 Becks. (beer) by QtheC on 2007-02-27 17:33:13 Daniel, you were the one who all "We can't trust Jonas" at first, remember? You'rekind of being a hypocrite. by lazyass on 2007-02-27 17:33:26 >_> sechs by Morgan on 2007-02-27 17:34:04 A complex? by Paulo on 2007-02-27 17:34:07 oh come on... by Morgan on 2007-02-27 17:34:35 Who's Bubbleteagirl? I haven't seen her around... she's cute... hehehe. by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 17:36:29 A person who changes their mind isn't a hypocrite. by Paulo on 2007-02-27 17:40:30 The problem with Jonas being a bad guy for the order is would have had to completely fake his emotions and actions in the past few months. Remember the video with the "Cowboy"? Remember the transaction in the elevator while (he was filming)? Remember the "attack" he made on the guy outside his place? You would have to believe he rigged all of these things to make himself look like he was willing to take risks for Bree and Daniel. Bree is just having "Cabin Fever". Lol. Remember a few of those video's where he felt like he was getting kicked around. I expect to see one of those soon. by The Great Silence on 2007-02-27 17:43:00 The whole Posh Spice bit?? OMG I LMAO! If that symbol was there forever then we can pretty much assume his parent were part of the order at least. by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 17:43:54 This game's just vexing me now :p by logana on 2007-02-27 17:44:47 158- A theory is that the watchers are protectors, not bad guys and Jonas wants them gone. Or he is working with them, the watcher didn't budge when hit... so either it was a fake punch or the watchers are like super strong. But you can never tell where this series is going. by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 17:46:49 There's Lexi... *wave* by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 17:46:52 maybe when the beast goes to talk to jonas, he'll untie him. and then when beast turns around jonas will hit him over the head with a chair and escape. by acacia on 2007-02-27 17:49:04 I still think Jonas is cool, so I personally hope he's innocent. But for Daniel and (especially) Bree's sake, maybe I should be hoping he's guilty... because if _I_ was Jonas, and I was innocent, I'd take the first chance to do exactly what I'm being accused of, and sell these two asses down the river. Or up the river. Or whatever direction provides the fastest route to the Order's headquarters. Tied up by a nut job ex-cult member who swings from mood to mood like monkeys swing from trees? Held captive in MY own mountain vacation home? After taking care of her AND her dull, possessive, paranoid-that-I'm-butting-in friend for weeks? AND putting my life at risk like a chump?? I don't EVEN think so. Yup, if I were guilty, I'd be trying to sell them out now that my spy gig has been revealed. And if I were innocent, I'd be trying to hurt them and THEN sell them out. Too bad. If he turns out the be innocent, maybe the creators would consider a spin off series that's all about how Jonas finds some friends who aren't freaks being pursued by freaks, and lives happily ever after? by BeornBear on 2007-02-27 17:52:36 while he was tied up?...... by caitieelin on 2007-02-27 17:57:06 FFFIIIIIRRRSSSTTTT!!! by becky on 2007-02-27 17:58:45 that whole watchers being protectors thing could be possible. it makes sense by caitieelin on 2007-02-27 17:59:40 FFFFFIIIIIRRRRSSSSTTTTT!!!!!1111!!!!! Yeah, now Daniel is protecting Jonas? Hah hah hah. He doesn't know what the symbol means. Please. That snow angels video was just meant as eye candy for the Order. lol. by Maddingo on 2007-02-27 18:07:51 I still think that Jonas & Bree are brother and sister. I think Jonas' parents that disappeared were Bree's real parents as well. She was then adopted by a couple from the Order. They didn't adopt Jonas because a girl was needed to raise for the ceremony. So maybe they provided the nanny to raise Jonas. Maybe the nanny was part of the Order & hence that symbol thing in his house. Of course, he has no clue that Bree is his sister & that his nanny was part of the Order. I think that Bree will continue to be upset with Jonas & ignore him for the next few days. Meanwhile, Daniel will question Jonas & they'll start to wonder about his nanny. Remember Jonas said his nanny went to live closer to her family or something. Well, maybe Jonas will mention that he told the nanny to feel free for her & her family to use that vacation home whenever they wanted. So that's how the symbol got left behind. So then Daniel & Jonas will start doing research on the nanny, find out she's part of the Order. They'll then do research on Jonas' parents. And somehow they'll eventually conclude the relation between Jonas & Bree. by justagirl on 2007-02-27 18:09:14 I do not believe that Jonas is evil. There is clearly more going on here than meets the eye, but really? What about the idea that Jonas is Bree's biological brother, that we've thrown around here so much? Couldn't his parents be her parents....and that symbol is in his house because they had some connection to the order. They could have given Bree up to the fake parents who raised her as part of the order. Does not mean Jonas is evil if his parents had connections. by juliacat on 2007-02-27 18:11:32 People need to remember that Bree's Dad and Mom in the videos are her "foster" parents. The order takes the kid from their parents and places them with Order parents so they are riased in the religion. If a couple in the Order has a kid and keeps him/her? Who knows, there should be some speculation on that. So the Jonas/Bree brother/sister idea could have some merit. by mandileigh on 2007-02-27 18:11:45 169 justagirl: great minds think alike. by juliacat on 2007-02-27 18:12:25 yup, i still think the brother/sister thing is the most likely scenario. Apparently I am not the only one, either. by juliacat on 2007-02-27 18:18:28 I bet there's a Star Wars-y inspiration going on. Luke and Leia and all that... Dark Side of the Force... I bet Bree's dad isn't dead, he's the new Darth Vader of the Order ;) by Ocarina Cavegirl on 2007-02-27 18:20:55 If Jonas was really Bree's brother, would the creators suggest any kind of romantic connection? by Determination on 2007-02-27 18:23:40 If Jonas was bad, why wouldn't he have taken them already and encouraged them and fought with the watcher? Could be a trick to take Bree on her own free will...Or some exterior involvement of a new party. (Order fighter veterans?) Guess we'll just have to watch and find out. by Sephern on 2007-02-27 18:24:30 Yeah, watch Star Wars. Luke and Leia are sweet on each other until they figure out they're related. And of course Danielbeast is Han Solo. by Ocarina Cavegirl on 2007-02-27 18:24:52 They did in Star Wars! Luke and Leia kissed!! and Han almost moved aside to leave room for Luke. by juliacat on 2007-02-27 18:25:01 Ocarina--- Zelda fan? by juliacat on 2007-02-27 18:26:02 that's funny. I made a starwars remark on the last video. by Determination on 2007-02-27 18:26:13 I think something we are not considering is what actually happened in the "bro down session." Maybe something was said then that made DB change his mind...that or he is still brainwashed. by Opladybug on 2007-02-27 18:26:24 again I say, great minds ;) LG15 fans know what's up by juliacat on 2007-02-27 18:27:45 #169 that is such a good idea. Damn. by vanjula on 2007-02-27 18:28:22 Yeah, we know what's up, until we talk about it here and the writers make a change ;) Yup, Ocarina from Zelda... by Ocarina Cavegirl on 2007-02-27 18:29:32 Daniel, if you have not yet done so, it is time to confiscate Jonas's cell phone. There may lie the answers that will tell you what side of the fence you need to be on. But, in your heart, you already know. Stand strong, my friend, you have suffered (and conquered) many things this past year. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 18:32:13 Boo. I like our Star-Wars inspired ideas. And Bree has kind of gone badass--even if it is misguided badass--like Leia. Big fan of Zelda here... Play Twilight Princess? by juliacat on 2007-02-27 18:33:16 At this time, I do not believe we will find the nanny alive. Bree, talk to Jonas about his nanny. When Jonas starts remembering the incidents surrounding his parents disappearance, a new lead will be revealed. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 18:35:04 A video for my brithday :) How nice. by sidewalkflight on 2007-02-27 18:37:42 Yeah, let's see what other connections we can make... Lucy= evil Yoda? Watchers= bounty hunters Purple Monkey and Owen= C3PO and R2D2? hah.. sorry just being silly now...:) by Ocarina Cavegirl on 2007-02-27 18:38:43 There are traces of the nanny in the cabin. I believe Bree found some things already and just does not realize their relevance quite yet. Once Jonas starts his journey reminiscing about his parent's disappearance, some of the things Bree found will become evident. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 18:39:58 There are also traces of Jonas's family life in that cabin. It is possible Jonas does not know anything about the item Bree has found. However, whether he is "the enemy" or "the orphan" will come out with the leads he provides Bree about his parent's disappearance and his nanny. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 18:45:57 Aww i see zelda stuffs! ocitrina of time was a good one i beat it in a three days =D yay for zelda fans by DeathsLie on 2007-02-27 18:47:58 I wonder whether Bree will tickle Jonas with a pink feather boa to make him talk!? by QtheC on 2007-02-27 18:57:51 My son just got the latest Zelda last week and is on the last boss as I type this. I can't believe I got sucked into paying real money for a game he will be done with in a week. LOL by Toad on 2007-02-27 18:58:04 I want Jonas tied up! I'll let him be evil all he wants. Rawr. LOL by kitten on 2007-02-27 19:00:04 I'm never up to date with the other videos with this, so what's with "the nanny" being talked about? Can anyone direct me to a video, or where ever this is coming from? by AspartamePop on 2007-02-27 19:19:09 See what I mean CREATORS? Men want to see it and women want to see it. Show us the ROPES! by Paulo on 2007-02-27 19:22:51 *whispers*...I wana see it. by Opladybug on 2007-02-27 19:44:24 k who the heck is the nanny? and dudee bree has gone crazy! by jennamarie xo on 2007-02-27 19:56:23 i love how polarised opinion seems to b on jonas/judas between the lovers + the haters (women + the men, crushes + the jealous etc..) by logana on 2007-02-27 19:57:09 Dearest Oppy now would be a good time for you to post a new vid. by Opladybug on 2007-02-27 20:00:57 What a tangled web we weave! by physphile on 2007-02-27 20:15:18 Don't give up Bree, if you use the right methods, Jonas will tell you what you need to know. However, I do not believe he realizes his connection between the people looking for Bree, his appointed guardian/nanny and his parent's disappearance. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 20:16:52 Hi. I am VERY confused about the "dehteraew" videos. I watched most of them, but I still don't understand who / what / where / why / how. If anyone would be so kind to explain through a comment or a note, I would really appreciate it. by Alexaaa on 2007-02-27 20:17:03 Can someone give me a brief summary of what happened in the time since Gemma and Bree were friends. Here's what I know: -Bree and Gemma were friends -Bree and Daniel were hiding at a motel -Bree's father got shot -Daniel and Bree kissed but Bree wanted nothing to do with it -Daniel got drunk and kidnapped -Now they live in a mountain house with an attractive boy named Jonas Are everyone's parents dead? Anything else I need to know? A brief summary would be fab. No time to watch it all... promise to keep up from now on. by FairWeather on 2007-02-27 20:19:37 205 FairWeather Gemma was shot, she was found to be working for the Order. Daniel's parents aren't dead, they just don't really care where he's at. We don't know who Bree's biological parents are so they may or may not be alive, her adoptive father is dead but her mother is alive (Bree's mad at her, we don't know why). As for Jonas since we're not sure who's side he's on or what his motives are, we don't know if he's telling the truth about his parents. Does that help at all? by sidewalkflight on 2007-02-27 20:23:31 *******HEY COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE MUSIC USED ON '130 THE HUMAN RANSOM' CLIP IS!!!!! PLEASE!!! ITS BEEN STUCK IN MY HEAD FOR DAYS...... PLEASE EMAIL ME THE NAME IF U KNO AT lil_pouneh@hotmail.com THAT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED******* by lilpouneh on 2007-02-27 20:27:56 #198 Opladybug: LOL! Of course you do! by Paulo on 2007-02-27 20:28:09 Wow. Thank you, #206. That was so prompt and informative. Much appreciated! by FairWeather on 2007-02-27 20:29:28 Okay I was gone for two days...so I am not going to read all the comments for the last video. Sorry if I restate things already said. I think, and have thought, from the beginning of the Jonas era that Jonas' parents were in the Order. That explains the symbol at the cabin. PLUS, they could have been on the "good" side of the Order, before the schism. Jonas COULD be innocent...I WANT him to be innocent, which influences this idea. Dang... And yes, please show tied up Jonas!!! AND, um, HOW did she get him tied up?????? by EricaRocks on 2007-02-27 20:31:25 AND what are the questions she asked and how did he answer?? The very inflection of his voice could speak volumes! How could they not film it? by EricaRocks on 2007-02-27 20:34:23 wow...way to kill a comments page, Erica... by EricaRocks on 2007-02-27 20:50:04 Daniel, It is so easy to get caught up when you live it everyday. You do not catch changes or odd experiences when you are close to them as someone who is not as involved. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 20:52:03 Hi Erica! How are you? by Perky on 2007-02-27 21:03:12 I think Daniel is wrong! Bree didn't jump the gun on this one - Jonas may be innocent, but look what happened with Gemma! by katrinagurl876 on 2007-02-27 21:10:48 Oh, and I am new to the board, so go easy on me ... :) by katrinagurl876 on 2007-02-27 21:11:52 Hey Perky! I am lovely, how are you? by EricaRocks on 2007-02-27 21:12:40 #144--yes, I DO expect a deck!!! by EricaRocks on 2007-02-27 21:13:54 Eh killin time as usual... you? by Perky on 2007-02-27 21:20:21 Again, this was most likely mentioned, but if Jonas is not in the Order (please, please, please??) wouldn't the Order have done a background check and know all about how many houses were in his parents name by now? It is MORE then likely they will have bugged the place JUST in case they would flee to that location, or any other Mr. and Mrs. Jonas' Parents' properties! by EricaRocks on 2007-02-27 21:20:36 Has anyone figured out what is outside the window in the last video? It's creeping me out. by melnjones on 2007-02-27 21:20:38 Perky, I am doing the same...although the time I am killing is precious sleeping time that I will miss at 5:20am tomorrow! So the slowness on a usually hopping board is sad to me. I mean, it should make me go to bed; instead I keep refreshing and saying Where IS everyone?????! by EricaRocks on 2007-02-27 21:23:04 There are people watching, but not enough leads to strike up chatter. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 21:26:19 S.A.R.A.H.---Harsh. I am nothing to talk about!! :( :( :( by EricaRocks on 2007-02-27 21:27:27 Leads: As in clues from Daniel, Bree or anyone else for us to help decifer. Not leads as in viewers. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 21:28:50 There's a plot point in this story I am frankly confused about that might relate to Jonas' guilt or innocence... Back in 0115b "The Ends Justify The Means (OpAphid)" we see a video from OpAphid showing Daniel finding a hidden camera in his room at Jonas' house. Much later, around the time Daniel went missing, Bree mentions that the order has cameras everywhere, and that she has watched all the Tachyon and OpAphid videos. So, what happened in between? Did Daniel ever bring up the camera he found in his room at Jonas' house to either Bree or Jonas? Did Jonas put it there, or someone else? That plot point has me quite confused. by QtheC on 2007-02-27 21:31:26 But we don't really KNOW that Gemma is really dead do we? We never heard a gun shot.. just some crosshairs on her. That, and when Bree said "that stupid girl died.." ..how do we know for sure she meant Gemma? What if she meant Cassie? Correct me if I'm wrong. :/ Maybe Jonas was talking to his nanny. Jeepers Meepers! by julesthe on 2007-02-27 21:31:30 Erica - I've been slowly weaning myself off of the Lonelycrack... you get much more sleep that way. by Perky on 2007-02-27 21:35:21 We're just now figuring out that Bree is crazy? I love me some Bree, but... her character has been loopy from day o.n.e. by Whosez on 2007-02-27 21:35:35 221, the only thing I see on the window in the last video is the string thing that you would use to pull up the blinds. by DIHPAPO on 2007-02-27 21:37:29 #226 QtheC-- ME TOO! Have always wondered about that! What the? Anyone have a clue? by Whosez on 2007-02-27 21:37:56 227- bree was never talking about Gemma. When she said that stupid girl died they day you killed her father she was talking about herself. by Opladybug on 2007-02-27 21:39:42 Also have wondered about THIS -- Remember way back when... a reference to a book on the book shelf @ Jonas's parents pad that was a diff. color from all the rest -- and a possibility that there was something hidden in that book? Anyone ever chase that rabbit down? by Whosez on 2007-02-27 21:40:37 226-The camera was at DB's room in his own house. It happened when he went back home for a bit. NOT at Jonas's. by Opladybug on 2007-02-27 21:41:05 hmm the thing bree had did look like a bookmark...maybe thats where it came from? by Opladybug on 2007-02-27 21:42:18 #234 (Opladybug) -- Aaaahhhhhhh! Thanks for clearing that up! by Whosez on 2007-02-27 21:43:55 Bree, You have not told us everything your Foster Father told you. I can assume it was Tachyon, he introduced you to before he died. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 21:44:58 It took me a while to find it - the 'I found a camera in my room' video is #101 - Undisclosed Location. That's the one where DB shows the box he found at Bree's house with the infinity-ish symbol on it. Way before they meet Jonas. by hwarner94 on 2007-02-27 21:46:31 Bree, there are a couple of scientific tests you can perform that might clear things up... 1. Throw the tied up Jonas in that handy lake nearby. If he floats, he's a duck, and therefore guilty. If he sinks, he was innocent. 2. Invite K. McPhee over, ply her with alchohol, and ask her to make out with Daniel while you watch. If this does not make you feel jealous, then cut the boy loose, you just are not into him. If you only feel a little queasy, that's understandable, and will soon pass. 3. Take a staple gun and pound a big staple into the back of your hand, and then rip the staple out. If you see a couple of fountains of blood and then your hand heals super-fast like magic, you are a cheerleader... congratulations. If not, oh well, might as well do the ceremony. I hope this helps. Good luck! by QtheC on 2007-02-27 21:47:41 If the question is about the image on the area of window glass exposed below the blinds, I think it's just a reflection of the light and camera in front of Bree. It looks like it's dark outside. That's probably why the blind is pulled in the first place. If it was filmed at night, the whole room would be reflected. by hwarner94 on 2007-02-27 21:49:54 QtheC - lmao! I think #1 only works on witches though ... by hwarner94 on 2007-02-27 21:51:37 A witch? 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After he left Bree and went home. P.S. I think Jonas is innocent. If anything they set him up by putting the symbol there to cause mistrust within the group. Pit them against each other so the Order can rush in and take control while they are fighting amongst themselves. by Yimmajazzi on 2007-02-27 22:12:04 consanguinity –noun 1. relationship by descent from a common ancestor; kinship nascency –adjective 1. beginning to exist or develop: the nascent republic. 2. Chemistry. (of an element) in the nascent state. zetetics \Ze*tet"ics\, n. [See Zetetic, a.] (Math.) A branch of algebra which relates to the direct search for unknown quantities. [R.] Ouch. Now I've got a brain cramp. by Whosez on 2007-02-27 22:14:18 baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawww, LEAVE JONAS ALONE BREE!! by hnuchie on 2007-02-27 22:18:59 How can we decode the deacon's message? I found a translator online and pasted it in the base64 box but it seems the result is jibberish... 232 Op - Hmm okay. But do we have anything else that confirms Gemma's death other than the cross hairs? *ponders* by julesthe on 2007-02-27 22:20:08 234: I'm still not sure about the camera, but it would make more sense if the OpAphid video was a flashback to when Daniel was at his old room rather than at Jonas ... confusing because it came so much later compare: 0118 "Truth or Dare" (Daniel passed out on bed, Bree/Jonas/McPhee playing poker - in Daniel's room at Jonas' house) 0115b "The Ends Justify the Means (OpAphid)" (at this point Daniel and Bree are at Jonas' house - Daniel find the camera by the blue statue by a bed ... could be a flashback to his old room?) 0101 "Undisclosed Location" (Daniel says he found a hidden camera in his bedroom by following static on his cell phone) 0097 "Gemma, Who are you?" (Daniel at home bedroom - you can see his bedspread) 0092b "Home Alone (OpAphid)" (at this point, Bree and Daniel are homless ... we see Bree's room, Daniel's old room at his parents, and we ALSO see the shot of the blue statue from 0115b, and one more shot of a desk and chair) by QtheC on 2007-02-27 22:23:02 I have gone back and forth between trusting Jonas, and then thinkin' he's evil in cute jeans. --- But here's a couple things I'm wondering about: 1.) "TiKO Foundation" = JonasTKO ??? Wild goose chase? Does anyone know what the tko in Jonastko means??? 2.) Jonas's behavior in "Watch This" video... was it all a show (yeah, yeah, I know the whole video series is a show...)? Was Jonas's character SUPPOSED to be so confident attackin' a watcher... because he KNEW they were on HIS side and this was staged to "prove" his "allegiance" to Bree and DB? Hm. by Whosez on 2007-02-27 22:31:29 249: I suspect the Deacons intended "Zetetic" to refer to "seekers" rather than "algebra." Zetetic \Ze*tet"ic\, n. A seeker; -- a name adopted by some of the Pyrrhonists. \Ze*tet"ic\, a. [Gr. ?, fr. ? to seek: cf. F. z['e]t['e]tique.] Seeking; proceeding by inquiry. by QtheC on 2007-02-27 22:32:37 In boxing, at "TKO" is a technical knock-out, meaning the opponent is too stunned to continue, so the ref stopped the fight. by QtheC on 2007-02-27 22:35:09 Got it! Bree and Jonas are brother and sister. The symbol, etc, are in his house because of his parents previous attempts to locate their daughter. That also explains why he is not interested in her and why the watcher outside his house doesn't harm or fight with him even before she runs out. Whatever they want from her, maybe they could get from him because of matching DNA, and so the order is to not harm either of them. If this is all correct, the big question would be, does he have any inkling that they are brother and sister and is this why he approached her in the first place, or is it a crazy coincidence and he is as clueless as she is? by ladybug on 2007-02-27 22:35:22 255: pay no attention to the mixed tenses... by QtheC on 2007-02-27 22:37:00 Bree, kinship. It is true. Ask Jonas about his parent's disappearance and about his nanny/guardian. I am sure now that he will remember things he might have suppressed. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-27 22:44:31 I think Bree represents humanity, with free will to choose good or evil, and all that morality stuff. Daniel and Jonas represent the good angel and the fallen angel - the question is which one is which. Daniel is known as the "beast" and tends to be emo - sounds bad. Jonas wears a cross and likes to skateboard - sounds good. Daniel lusts after Bree and gets drunk and picks up K. McPhee and his friends draw all over his face while he is passed out - sounds good. Jonas stays at home and watches lots of DVD's, and later wears a big puffy black jacket - sounds bad. Daniel gets drunk again, and goes home with a Cowboy in a van - sounds bad. Jonas hops into the Cowboy van attempting to rescue Daniel - sounds good. Daniel, flat broke, but so loyal he gives up his car to save Bree - sounds good. Jonas, rich, and so loyal he gives up his spare unused bedrooms to help Daniel and Bree in exchange for bro-time foosball with Daniel - sounds, um, not quite as good. So, at this point, it's a toss up. by QtheC on 2007-02-27 22:46:15 #259 (QtheC) LOL See what I mean? Trust? -Or- Evil in cute jeans? Love a good mystery. by Whosez on 2007-02-27 22:58:12 Really, I think all the scoobies are good - they are just confused like we are at this point. by QtheC on 2007-02-27 22:59:03 Zetetic method (Math.), the method used for finding the value of unknown quantities by direct search, in investigation, or in the solution of problems. Pyrrhonist \Pyr"rho*nist\, n. A follower of Pyrrho; a skeptic. by Whosez on 2007-02-27 23:06:08 nas·cent (nsnt, nsnt) adj. Coming into existence; emerging. Of or relating to the state of a chemical element at the moment it is set free from one of its compounds. Sorry for posting so much. That's enough for me to chew on for awhile. Hm. Off to bed. by Whosez on 2007-02-27 23:11:00 when daniel says "Jonas says its been there for as long as he can remember" what has been there for as long as he can remember?? by royplay94 on 2007-02-27 23:14:59 Royplay94: Daniel is saying that the symbol from Bree's last video has been there forever. by Schmemily on 2007-02-27 23:21:07 bree is hott. by 2Sp3cKo on 2007-02-27 23:48:46 I like what #256 (ladybug) said. It makes a lot of sense, and I think the answer to the big question is they are both clueless that they are siblings and will find out later. by Ariel on 2007-02-28 00:32:29 I just noticed! From 252: 0101 “Undisclosed Location†(Daniel says he found a hidden camera in his bedroom by following static on his cell phone) Could that be the reason Jonas has been using his cell phone??? Rather than calling anyone? by daisygirl on 2007-02-28 00:32:37 mmmmmm, Jonas tied up....mmmmmm good mental image, I wish she'd thought of this sooner! by AlohaErin on 2007-02-28 00:48:36 yeah i think #256 is really good too. how old did jonas say he was when his parents died? it could be related to that if in fact they are siblings. by KelQuelle on 2007-02-28 01:12:12 #271 & in the TOP 200 & BEFORE 300!!!!! WOOOO HOOOoOOO! by anm on 2007-02-28 01:22:53 dssddsds by johnt on 2007-02-28 01:26:38 I have make $950.00 From this Site Below http://hotcash.iscool.net Get Paid to Complete Offers Earn Alot of money by just completing freebies that wont cost you a penny. You can even make $100+ only in freebies. So Signup now & Earn Plenty of Cash all for Free. This is No Spam/Crap. Thanks!I have make $950.00 From this Site Below http://hotcash.iscool.net Get Paid to Complete Offers Earn Alot of money by just completing freebies that wont cost you a penny. You can even make $100+ only in freebies. So Signup now & Earn Plenty of Cash all for Free. This is No Spam/Crap. Thanks! by johnt on 2007-02-28 01:27:10 *128* As it turns out, I am thinking that you might be right about sending someone over, that it could be Tachyon, and that perhaps it will be Mcphee who arrives to find out they are having a bit more fun than they should be. Also speaking of Mcphee, she resembles the girl in white from "Who is that Girl". What do you meepers think? by MCross on 2007-02-28 01:38:48 This is getting more confusing by the day... by lilacangel on 2007-02-28 02:05:24 They have known Bree's position, but as stated before; no harm will come to Bree. There are no secrets in the cabin as there were no secrets at Jonas' house. Daniel, You all have been taking turns keeping watch. With Jonas now a captive, I hope you are not stressing. Remember to calm Bree down, and help her to think clearly. She trusts you. Good luck son. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 02:09:48 http://lg15today.blogspot.com/ For the fans, by the fans. All the latest from the breeniverse, if you want to contribute an article please send a note to modelmotion. by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 04:12:47 Dear CREATORS, Okay, I'm ready for some Bree vs. Gemma Kung-fu fighting now ... I'm just sayin' Yours truely, QtheC by QtheC on 2007-02-28 05:33:43 afternoon everyone! by dumbhippo on 2007-02-28 06:45:41 hey hippo! Quiet on here today! Mind you Dream is off on business by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 06:48:10 Hey GF - it is quiet...! Yeah she's at her conference, hope it's going well!! by dumbhippo on 2007-02-28 07:17:40 good morning everyone by LCAF on 2007-02-28 07:17:55 Lol QtheC!!! by dumbhippo on 2007-02-28 07:18:04 Calm down, Bree. by Sadie on 2007-02-28 07:20:56 I don't know about you guys but I am dying to hear Jonas' side of the story, I hope Daniel videos his one on one with him... by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 07:23:47 Hi hippo and gf! *meep* by Perky on 2007-02-28 07:34:12 Hey Perky!! How are you? by dumbhippo on 2007-02-28 07:44:45 I'm so meeping bored! by dumbhippo on 2007-02-28 07:45:49 Are you guys already set in your stance on Jonas' good or evilness? Or are you waiting to see how this all unfolds? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 07:54:38 I agree #269, but I bet he is fully clothed! LOL by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 07:56:08 FFFIIIRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSTTTTTT!!!!111111!!!11 *meep* Not that I even have a chance to watch the vid here... by Dream on 2007-02-28 08:15:46 Hi hippo... moving slow today... you? Hi Dream! by Perky on 2007-02-28 08:28:14 Dreaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam!!! Yay!! Everything seems to be moving slow today Perky...! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz* by dumbhippo on 2007-02-28 08:33:51 Gotta say it again: "SHOW US THE ROPES!" by Paulo on 2007-02-28 08:49:18 hippo... slow seems to be a trend lately. For my part, I've got finals and term papers to worry about... but I wonder where everyone else has gone? by Perky on 2007-02-28 08:53:18 288: I'm not decided either way, so i'd have to say i'm wanting to see how it unfolds; has bree just gone crazy? Daniel does know her well so... maybe... But the Jonas being evil thing has been floating around for so long and seems to make sense, but him having symbols just lying around in his house seems odd, if he was trying to hide it. I JUST DON'T KNOW1!!shift+one :( how about you? by Joel on 2007-02-28 09:07:20 I finally got to see both videos. Who knew Bree was into S&M. Next we'll see her dressed in leather with a rhinestone studded paddle screaming at Jonas as she spanks him "Call me Mistress Bree bitch" That crappy little arts-n-crafts thing she found looks like it was done by the dumbest kid in a 5th grade class. The Creators must be low on money. Spending it all on Bree's wardrobe I guess. purplepassion #131, Glad to help. MEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Joe on 2007-02-28 09:08:52 #288 - I'm TOTALLY undecided. That's half the fun, probably. He could be a wolf in sheep's clothing... he could be for real. It could go either way. by Whosez on 2007-02-28 09:09:03 I agree with the beast. Bree has gone a bit nuts. Keeping someone tied up for long is as much of a problem for the guard as for the prisoner. You have to keep their hands tied or they will untie themselves, but with their hands tied, what happens during bathroom breaks? If you untie their hands, they may escape. If you don't untie their hands, you have to provide certain services at bathroom breaks that I can't see Bree or Daniel providing. Not to mention the prisoners can't feed themselves. If the order isn't trying to get Bree to do anything against her will, then they become just an annoyance rather than a threat. That also makes this tie up thing rather extreme. If Jonas's job is just to keep track of her - then so what? She's getting free room and board, she's not a prisoner and she's not being threatened in any way. So calm down girl!! by lonelycrackerjack on 2007-02-28 09:09:49 Would make good drama though, to have a betrayal of THAT degree. Gemma wasn't shocking enough IMO. I expected her to be dirty. by Whosez on 2007-02-28 09:10:40 Personally, my money (M & M's) is on the sibling theory. Especially after the "consanguinity" = "kinship" reference. But it's only M & M's, so... I can aford to go out on a limb. *LOL* by Whosez on 2007-02-28 09:21:32 just wondering if the 'Who's That Girl' video has been decoded yet? what do all the symbols and undertones mean? come on, I know someone has to have an idea or two. by calliedeaner on 2007-02-28 09:22:20 #301. Been workin on it. by Whosez on 2007-02-28 09:28:48 great!! I keep watching it and am still at a loss, I really rely on you all being smarter than me at this stuff! by calliedeaner on 2007-02-28 09:29:54 295: The whole "Jonas is one of them" theory seems like too much of a cop out for me to buy into it. We went through this with Gemma and even though Jonas would be a betrayal on a much larger scale it just strikes me as a recycled storyline. To some degree I'm on the fence about this I guess. I'm sure however this turns out we are in for an interesting story line by way of explanation. Right now I can think of too many ways for this to go even though I've been getting the feeling that those people on here who have already seemed to decided their view of Jonas view the situation as black and white. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 09:35:58 Alright, I think the Jonas story line is gonna turn out like Claire's stepdad on Heroes....everyone thought he was evil/had something to do with it/hiding info/knows more then he is letting on .......and now we find out that the stepdad was actaully just trying to protect her, even though he should have said something instead of lieing to Claire about it for so long.........if you dont watch Heroes then you probably have NO idea what I am talking about, lol by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 09:41:48 oh yeah,,,,,HI ALL by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 09:42:20 Alright, so lets see how many posts I can do before somebody else chimes in..... by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 09:51:07 What is heroes? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 09:51:36 hellloooo. anybody there? how many ppl think Jonas will turn out to be the bad guy???? by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 09:51:50 This is Heroes: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=144503956 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1893659174 by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 09:53:22 the first link is to the shows website on myspace and the other link is a funny spoof of the show. by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 09:54:24 I don't really see Jonas as a bad guy...he doesn't strike me as someone who could pull of a large facade like that. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 09:55:16 Heroes is about ordinary people with extraordinary powers, basically real life super heroes, that are just now discovering that they have these powers, the show is sooooooooo addicting, its awesome!!! by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 09:56:02 oh, nevermind, the post with the links arent showing up on the comment board go to m y sp a ce. c o m / heroes official or n b c . c o m / h e r o e s by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 09:57:52 Soooooooo.... I had my very first LG15 dream last night. I don't remember all of it, but I was Bree and I had a little brother and mom. We all got kidnapped from the East Coast by this crazy guy who thought he was the "Deacon of Vampires". We had to fly to CA with no shoes. Luckily, we were able to escape the crazed vampire by running through the aquarium that happened to be housed within the airport that was also shaped as a castle...with horses. And there was something in there about my stupid brother using a cell phone too... MEEP. BTW...what if the drug Bree takes metabolizes into a new drug with a really long half life and hallucinogenic properties? I call it: Meepogen. by RaeRae on 2007-02-28 10:01:33 are you on the list? by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 10:01:41 Skulls and crossbones 332~indeed. individual was made an outcast. The "Celestine" is complete. by MCross on 2007-02-28 10:04:30 305: lonelychick, see comment 239, scientific test no. 3 for more on the Claire comparison ;) For links on here, leave off the http : / / by QtheC on 2007-02-28 10:05:56 That does sound addicting, I don't think I need ANOTHER addiction in my life hehe by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:08:35 314: that's a pretty strange dreams. My LG dreams are usually actually nightmares when I log on and there's a 30 second video where they do some lame B.S. rap up of the series and say the end, leaving me with nothing but heartache and a million unanswered questions. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:09:45 I hope for Daniel's sake that Bree is being humane enough in the way she restrains Jonas that he can still play foosball. Wait, we must know Creators, is there even foosball at the Lake cabin? .... In the words of OpAphid, "Oh dear." by QtheC on 2007-02-28 10:11:18 I think if there was foosball we would have seen it already. I guess to make up for it Jonas partook in some arts and crafts straight out of the orders handbook! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:12:29 QtheC - from #239...your a cheerleader.... congratulations, lol by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 10:14:08 I know there are lonelycracks are we going to have lonelycheerleaders now? Gimme your best lonelycheer! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:15:31 yes Dutchess it is addicting.....if you dont want to be an addict, stay far far away....lol....LG15 and Heroes are the two shows that I cant wait to see the next episode by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 10:15:34 Dutchess...the cheerleader comment is of the line "save the cheerleader, save the world" in the Heroes show, cause the one "hero" is a highschool girl whos a cheerleader.....but anyway, we should have some LG15 cheers, anybody wanna be on the LG15 cheer squad???? by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 10:16:55 I figured that was a reference, but I think we need some cheers, maybe it'll kill some time as we wait for another video. Here's a very crappy one, I somehow remembered from the football games back in high school (wow that seems forever ago) and modified it. We know that you are watching You might be good at that But when it comes to kicking butt You might as well step back Might as well step back Say what? You might as well step back Can't hear you Might as well step back Go Bree! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:21:13 alright, so at the beginning of this video, Daniel says that Bree yelled at Jonas for a hour while he was tied up........ did Bree actually tie him up to a chair or something??? lol, im sorry, but it just sounds funny, like I wonder what the hell Jonas would be thinking while Bree was trying to tie him up??? he probably thought it was gonna turn into something else...lol and how did she tie him up without Daniels help?? i think Jonas is stronger than Bree unless those drugs her dad made her take had an effect on her, lol anyone else find that part a lil funny? by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 10:23:00 i luv it Dutchess!! by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 10:23:50 I think I was just assuming that Daniel helped, all he said was that Jonas was tied up, I'd like to think he'd have mentioned if Bree had somehow managed on her own. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:24:33 Woah, So ...if we listen to all of this. What if like...Daniel is in on it too. Which would be a total turn around and totally be like...you know a prisinor of the state thing. Nah Daniel can't be in on it.. But what if Jonas's parents were...Jonas could be clueless.... OR Jonas could be exactly like Bree, you know being chased by watchers too. Who knows, For all we know, Jonas's parents were appart of Op Aphid, and something happened, and they screwed up. He has been acting a little too friendly, and the whole cellphone thing....yeah it'd say that he wants them to find him...but....if there is one thing right, I think Dan's right to say that if Bree doesn't calm down....bad things will happen... Now if only this was real. by Anawinee on 2007-02-28 10:24:34 uh..booyah, lets pump this place up Hey, You Lonelygirl fans, Stand up and clap your hands! Go Lonelygirl Go, Go Lonelygirl Go! Hey, You Lonelygirl Fans Now let's see you wave your hand! Go Lonelygirl Go, Go Lonelygirl Go! Go Lonelygirl Go, Go Lonelygirl Go! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:25:21 Anawinee I don't see how Jonas could be in the same situation as Bree. He wears a cross so I don't think he had the same religion as her. I'm assuming they're "watching" her b/c of her role in the religion/ceremony, what reason could they have to watch him if he hasn't even been exposed to the religion? Obviously if Jonas is a good enough actor around Bree and Daniel (which I simply cannot imagine) then my assumptions have been blown out of the water. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:28:39 I'm starting to dig this Daniel being on on something theory though, they did have him for a period of time and from what we saw they obviously did something to him, who's to say that something isn't having a lasting affect. The order has proven they're not stupid so I think it's not unreasonable to assume that they did something to Daniel that would serve as a back up plan in case things went down they way they ended up going down. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:30:18 Oh well I was just assuming that he wouldn't allow them to know that he was in the same religion. I mean if you were being chased down because of your place in a ceremony,and needed help, and he knew about all the ceremony and stuff. Even if he had been in the eremony once before himself, THEN , why let them know. If I was in help, and someone from the same religion came up to me and offered help. I"d automatically assume that they were infact Op Aphid themselves. SO.... Wouldn't you wear a cross to keep your religion unknown. I mean people who don't even have a religion sometimes wear crosses.... by Anawinee on 2007-02-28 10:32:23 Scoobies and the order showdown of the year Pump up the action get ready to cheer The scoobies have legions that you won't believe Unleash the commenters they're smart tough and mean! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:33:05 Yeah, But that'd suck if Daniel was apart of it. I mean...that'd be the biggest blow to Bree if he was. It WOULD be like prisinor of the state. No one around to help you, the world's aganst you....well in this sense anyway. by Anawinee on 2007-02-28 10:33:47 You bring up some good points, I can't deny that. I just get really hung up on the fact that Jonas doesn't strike me as someone who could pull that off, which if I were in Bree's situation could prove to be a major pitfall. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:34:18 I think Bree's already feeling like the world is against her and with mildly good reason too, epically if she's wound up and sees this video, Daniel might get tied up to. She's been though a lot and is probably due for a complete mental breakdown. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:35:48 326, 331: I confused, do they even allow cheerleading in sassland??? Bree: Gimme a Pi! Daniel: pie? Bree: Gimme a Mu! Daniel: huh? Bree: Gimme a Lamda, an Omicron, Tau, Phi, and Epsilon too! Daniel: Bree, have you been taking Epogen again? Bree: *ignoring Daniel* Now. What's that spell?! Daniel: I have no idea. I hope Tachyon gets here soon. Jonas: mmmpppffffff *muffled by gag* Bree: *deflating* Forget this. I'm going skiiing. by QtheC on 2007-02-28 10:36:02 339: Cheering is a must, Cheerleaders can be among the sassiest people in society. And that is one of the funniest things I have ever read. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:38:36 QtheC ....real quick...very busy at work here.... BUT.... ROFLMAO!!!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 10:38:34 IF she does have a mental break down I hope they get it on film! OH OH OH what if she has a mental breakdown like ummm...one of the chicks in one of those stupid scarry movies you know....the whole. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!?!?! That'd be awesome...... I wonder what the hell the stupid ceremony is anyway. I mean they're fucking chasing her. Does it have something to do with like...sacraficing her? And if so why don't they just prep someone else? by Anawinee on 2007-02-28 10:40:26 We're not rude We're not mean We're gonna cheer for the other team Go Order Go Go Order Go Off our tails, Out the lives Go Order Go Off our tails, Out the lives Go Order Go! *super high leg kick* by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:41:15 342: I'm assuming the ceremony can't be THAT important if they can keep postponing it. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:42:06 Here's an interesting thought that just attacked my brain. What is the age demographic of people who watch lonelygirl? What audience are they playing towards. Theres only been 1 sexual reference that I can remember and it wasn't overt or anything and only one "cuss word" that comes to mind. Obviously a story can progress without sex and swearing, but do you think that the choices of story lines or the outcome of certain situations as well as what we are actually shown is limited if lonelygirl has a PG13 rating? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 10:45:50 QtheC, betwen you and Joe, I am always LOL! That cheer was some funny meep! by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 11:23:03 Duchess-I think it's really lame when writers throw in sex and cursing just to make the audience feel like they're watching something mature. Rarely does it ever truly advance a plot. We're watching for the story. It's good. by Clio on 2007-02-28 11:26:06 I just thought of something, and forgive me if this has been said, I am at work and don't have time to read all of the comments. Bree has Jonas tied up and is pretty much being mean to him. They are in his home, using his wealth to survive and have been for the past several months. What happens if they find out he is a good guy? Or, Jonas says the right thing and Bree says, "oops, my bad," and lets him go (even if he is bad, but convinces her otherwise)? Is he going to continue to let them stay there, or will he put them out on the street? hmmmmmm...just a random thought. by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 11:35:38 sex + swearing for their own sakes are indeed deplorable, but c'mon, these guys are meant to be adolescents, with all that recently haiving undergone puberty brings, AND in a hugely stressful situation by anyones standards - as such., leaving them out can limit plot potential and realism to a certain extent imo by logana on 2007-02-28 11:38:45 I'm so ashamed.... 349. "Wooh hooh." *half-hearted* Darn the real world. Darn it. *looks around to make sure no "real worlders" are about* by lonelymom13 on 2007-02-28 11:39:43 I was thinking that perhaps we weren't shown Bree flipping out at Jonas because something like that, in order to actually feel real, would have to contain some risque language. I'm not one to advocate swearing, but would you really buy an emotional release from Bree if she said "Darn you Jonas"? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 11:46:57 Okay, so you guys are right... Without the whole, sex, emotional breakdown and occasional swearing outbursts the show loses some realistic quality seeing as these guys are probably between 18 and 22 years old. (That was just an estimated guess....) ANYWAY It's almost like a Dawson Creek sort of idea isn't it? Or the O.C. both of which had to throw in Sex, Drugs, nd random swearing of course the real problems that the world serves. I mean... Heck even in Harry Potter there are the whole...sex issues. Or the whole Opposite sex issues. And Harry Potter you know...is like...worldly, and ISN"T really PG13, BUT, is still highly watched. If this was on t.v. the raitings would start to fall when worldly issues, or at least adolesent issues were not being disgussed. by Anawinee on 2007-02-28 11:55:37 Hey I was wondering something......... Has anyone else noticed that there are no other races present in this story? All caucasion/white, whatever... Im not racist or bringing it up to start any conflict! I was just wondering if anyone else noticed this.... shouldnt they atleast bring someone of a different race in? I mean, where do they live where there is only white people, everywhere they go.? by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 11:55:43 Well to do that at this point would be a little wierd, I mean... YOu have to have a reason to bring in a new character. Some sort of plot twist. * Shrug* Maybe they're just particular like that...*shrug*. by Anawinee on 2007-02-28 11:59:36 It's funny, I wonder if they actually read these comments, I suspect.....not really. by Anawinee on 2007-02-28 12:00:10 well, im preeetttyy sure they are gonna bring in some new characters since the Creators said this story will go on after Bree's story is over but it still does not make any sense why as of now there have only been white characters. by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 12:01:44 "Maybe they’re just particular like that..." Im sorry but to me if someone is being "particular" about who they cast or associate with that would mean they are somewhat of a racist or look down on people of other races. by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 12:03:35 yes they The Creators do read the comment, not so much the actors. by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 12:04:07 #339 -- Q, you seriously entertain me. *in hysterics* by Whosez on 2007-02-28 12:20:36 ooh heck I see a race card about to be held up...this could get nasty. Listen guys so far they have only used 4 people please give them a chance to cast more people in roles!! When you're auditioning you dont think "Wow what a great actor...but we cant hire them because they're black / not black / handicapped /able bodied / of different religious persuasion .aethist etc etc and we must met our quota" You just think "Wow what a great actor..the best we've seen in the auditions and as this is LG15, they are also prepared to work for peanuts." I would like to hope that in this day an age a person gets a job based on their skills and not the colour of their skin. by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 12:22:34 daniel is half arab fyi by Silence141 on 2007-02-28 12:28:13 lonelychick i think thats awesome that no one has noticed that until now. it shows that most of us can look past that and not care. besides its just entertainment. oh good morning! meep!! by ladyofthelake on 2007-02-28 12:31:53 Top 400? sweet. Anywho... like I said before, I think Jonas is a good guy. Plus the symbol found in Jonas' cabin wasn't even the same as the watcher symbol. The watcher symbol had three little lines under the eye, but the "Jonas" symbol only had two lines under the eye. Something's fishy here, I think the Order is trying to frame Jonas. (or something to that effect) Byes, Amanda (copperboom) P.S. I will always ♥ my Beasty! by copperboom on 2007-02-28 12:34:24 Ya'll.. are you seriously saying that to be realistic... there HAS to be sex in the plot???? C'mon now. You do realize there are real people in the world who can get along fine without jumpin' into bed with whoever is the flavor of the month at any given moment. You... do... realize.... that, right? Hm. Interesting insight into our broken-down culture?? Hm. by Whosez on 2007-02-28 12:37:13 copperboom: Thats just what I thought! Its weird the symbols are different...maybe there are two different types of watchers? by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 12:39:13 I don't recall anyone saying that there had to be sex... by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 12:40:04 oooh there always has to be sex!!! Oh hang on you mean in LG15 dont you? LOL by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 12:41:38 GF I'm not sure why but that made me laugh really hard & I spit water on to my keyboard by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 12:42:28 Silence, but he doesnt plan an Arab by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 12:48:24 lonelychick, not to start an argument, but has Daniel every said anything about his lineage, for all we know couldn't his character be 1/2 Arab too? *nervous laughter and sensitive subject matter* by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 12:56:36 poor sass's keyboard LOL (maybe its because we think the same! ;)) lonelychick what do you mean he doesnt play an arab? ?? Because he doesnt wear traditional clothes??? by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 12:59:18 Hi all *meep* I think it's probably a good idea to shelve the race topic before someone accidentally says something that isn't intended to be offensive but comes out that way in text. Focus! Jonas... tied up... Bree... off the deep end... Daniel... gave Bree a shove off the deep end? by Perky on 2007-02-28 13:00:20 Nowhere in the script (apart from Bree's religion) is there any necessity to elaborate on anyones religion or ethnicity. Just like in real life, it doesnt matter!! Please lets change this subject. by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 13:00:49 372: Perky i think that comment made me love you ;-) by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:03:45 excuse me but im the one that didnt want to start an argument, GF - NO, but take a poll and ask everyone what nationality he is and I BET you 99 % would say that he is white, check out his myspace, it even says that he is the "whitest arab" he knows of. by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 13:03:57 I still like the idea that Daniel planted the sign Perky ("Take my proving science wrong partner on hikes will ya "bro"??") LOL I can see why Bree flipped tho. oooh Jonas all bound up and gagged...roll on next video! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 13:05:28 im not saying it matters, da*n you ppl gotta turn nothing into something, in this day in age, there are not many films that dont atleast have 1 character thats not white in it just to make a point that they are trying to make the ppl watching that they are in fact watching something that takes place in the real world, again....where in CA is there all white people? and dont give me no smart a** answer about some rich neighborhood either. by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 13:06:22 lonelychick, I know he's on my myspace friends! (Arabs are not a homogeneous ethnic group either) by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-28 13:07:44 lonelychick ... maybe it's because they're ALL related ... hmmm... interesting theory :) I don't think there have been more than 5 or so characters that we've seen anyway, have there? by christyuga on 2007-02-28 13:10:43 lonelychick, since this is the internet it's hard to read someones emotions at times. I started my statement with "i don't want to start and argument" to show that I wasn't being defensive, I in no way meant to imply that you were being argumentative. The last thing I would ever want to do is upset one of my fellow comenters. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:11:18 christyuga, by "all" are you suggesting the possibility that Daniel, Bree and Jonas are related? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:16:35 if you go back and watch the "cracked the code" vid there is more then just the watcher symbol there are a few more. and we don't know that daniel isn't playing an arabian he never said what he was. we're just assuming. and race shouldn't matter anyway as long as there r good actors race isn't an issue by LCAF on 2007-02-28 13:16:48 alright, whatever, this is the reason why i have no friends, i dont know how to talk to ppl, it was fun while it lasted, ill leave ya aloonme by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 13:21:41 Dutchess... yeah, sure, why not??!! As confused as I am at this point, I figure anything is possible. All three have absent parents. Maybe Bree's parents let her hang out with Daniel because they knew he was her brother (maybe that was what Bree's dad and Daniel talked about). The Jonas possibilty has been beaten to death so I won't reiterate all the reasons he could be related to Bree again .... by christyuga on 2007-02-28 13:22:29 Just to get this straight everyone... Daniel... looks like Daniel. Yousef looks hot-- I MEAN, like Yousef. Race? There truly is no such thing as race. Yep, I was taught that in school. :) by Morgan on 2007-02-28 13:24:31 OH, wait, no, nevermind. I forgot about the whole romantic dinner thing. I was thinking even his seeming "jealously" of Jonas could be mistaken "protectiveness" of a little sister. But I forgot about the dinner. Hopefully if Daniel and Bree are siblings he doesn't know about it... ew. by christyuga on 2007-02-28 13:25:26 As interesting of a plot twist as that would be, could you imagine how Bree and Daniel (2 people who have kissed) would react to that news? I don't think that's something I'd want to see... by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:26:36 I am thinking that the people they use, other than Bree, Daniel and Jonas, are relatives of the creators. I think one of them even said that. They are on a small budget here, so they use what they have. Volunteers. So it would stand to reason they would be the same race as the creators. I hope this does not turn into a big deal. I watch a lot of dramas, and I never stop and think wow, everyone is white or black or hispanic or whatever. I just think wow, this is a really good show, or this person is a really good actor. Not this person is a really good (insert color here)actor. Can't we all just get along? Meep goes back to work and waits for the flaming to begin. OH! By the way, I don't respond to flaming. by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 13:26:45 Morgan I'm fascinated, where did you go to school?! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:27:21 purplepassion, I see no reason for you to be flamed, you gave an insightful and mature comment. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:28:10 Please don't leave lonelychick17! Communication is giving your opinion, but also taking constructive criticism. I am sorry if your feelings were hurt. I think people just get testy when the word "RACE" is brought up. I was raised in the Southern US, and it is always a "trigger word" for most people. Thank goodness I was able to make friends with people from all races and backgrounds when I was very young, and realize that people are people. by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 13:29:53 why thank you Dutchess. I just always tell people that I don't respond to flaming when I weigh in on a controversial issue. That way they don't get on worked up on my account, and expect a fight. by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 13:30:54 I don't think anyone should be subjected to flaming, let alone feel they need to respond to it. As long as both parties are mature adults (which appears to be the case here) there is no reason that a controversial issue can't be discussed in a calm and rational manner. I'm of the view that everyone id entitled to their one opinion and try very hard to respect that even if I don't happen to agree with them. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:32:46 You are a gem Dutchess. by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 13:34:10 CREATORS: You soooo GOTTA show Jonas tied up! I'm trying to imagine Jonas saying "C'mon Bro, this isn't cool" while bound up, being fed cold oatmeal, and desperately needing a pee break. If you don't show this, I'll be horribly disappointed. All the women seem to want to see it too, whether they love him or hate him. I don't like him or hate him, I just want to see a charismatic character in a situation where he can't keep his suave demeanor. (Am I evil?) by Paulo on 2007-02-28 13:34:45 *blush* Thank you. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:35:05 Paulo: I don't think that makes you evil in the slightest, seeing characters out of their element for a bit can only add to their depth I for one can't even imagine how Jonas would react in such a situation and would love to see it. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:37:08 this goes out to Dutchess and Purplepassion: GROW UP! all the snippy lil comments about how "mature" you are makes you look very immature. I really didnt plan on commenting anymore but I HATE when people who think they are so freakin mature talk about other people being immature, (even if it is a nonchalant way) its, whatever, i dont even care anymore, i just wanted some people to talk to, thats all, but no, i dont wanna be on this comment board anymore if im gonna have people turn this argument around on me, just cause I brought a point up, yes, i do have problems, but its definetly not cause I dont see people as people. i would take any friend at this point, ya;l should be VERY happy that you have friends. by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-28 13:41:20 I've become far too accustom to getting a new vid every day. Where is the Wednesday video, Creators? Don't let a girl down here. by openbook on 2007-02-28 13:41:47 Openbook: I completely agree by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:44:20 Lonelychick I think ur awesome by LCAF on 2007-02-28 13:46:24 Dutchess- don't try to be nice to anyone anymore. See where it gets you? by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 13:47:30 Lonelychick, it's all good. Stick around please. It would be nice to have you around. by Paulo on 2007-02-28 13:48:31 I think you are awesome too lonelychick17. I actually was trying to be nice to you, and apologized that you had your feelings hurt. Sorry you misinterpreted my posts. But alas, we are all responsible for our own feelings. I hope you won't leave. by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 13:48:50 lonelychick, if you would like to pm me, I am always willing to listen. I know what it's like to need someone to talk to. by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 13:50:26 I think shes left us. Everyone send her a not and get her back by LCAF on 2007-02-28 13:53:15 note* by LCAF on 2007-02-28 13:53:56 402: Is that sarcasm. I'm seriously not sure what I've done wrong here. If someone can point out a comment I made that was spiteful I would certainly love to review it and make amends but for right now I am completely bewildered. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:54:15 maybe it wasn't spiteful Dutch. maybe which ever comment it was was a bit too sassy by LCAF on 2007-02-28 13:56:14 no, I was serious! I feel the same way you do. I was trying to be nice, and was trying to have a serious conversation about a touchy subject, and it blewup. (this is why I don't weigh in on stuff often) I don't think either one of us said anything wrong. I think there is something else going on. You're cool, I'm cool we're cool. by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 13:57:31 Despite my internet handle I strive to lay off the sass while chatting in message boards, sass can too often be mistaken for meanness which is something I am wholeheartedly against. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:57:45 Hooray for cool! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 13:58:15 This is really one of the most ridiculous things that I have seen go on here. Let me summize: 1) noone meant to hurt anyone 2) everyone is sorry if they did 3) everyone loves everyone So...let's move on people and let me return to lurking while you all provide interesting insight and solve puzzles for me! Thanks... disclaimer: No actual feelings were hurt during the writing of this post by rojo13 on 2007-02-28 14:05:25 rojo: Seriously, thank you for that, I don't think anyone of us involved could have written that with out coming off as condescending. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:08:02 Yo lonelychick17...when we gonna hit up that comments page? It's just a thang. We got pizza and ice cream and we'll even do spin art. How cool is that? by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 14:10:18 No more drinking water while visiting this page for me, my keyboard will not survive the day. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:15:52 That's it...I'm painting everyone in here PURPLE!!...end of discussion.... *grabs GIANT can of spray paint* *attaches to remote control airplane* *starts spraying the comment board* *meep*! Time to get back to serious issues anyways.... .... .... ...ummm anyone like....uh....stuff? by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:17:15 But...purple doesn't compliment my eyes, any other colors you can offer? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:18:11 OMG! I like stuff! by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 14:21:04 EVERYTHING PURPLE....no Coke...Pepsi !!! Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, !!!! .... .... ...fumes getting to me, sorry. by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:22:07 Stuff is so cool!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:22:35 ...you can even make paper maché stuff.... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:24:24 ...origami stuff..... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:24:42 Well, if the purple comes with fun fumes I'm stop complaining. Maybe the fumes will make Tachyons message make more sense. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:24:53 ...stuff stuff..... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:25:11 I'm going to make a paper maché bunt cake by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:25:36 Yesss..... Tachyon's messages ARE making more sense now!!! She said...."I am the Walrus..." "Koo-koo-ku-choo" .... .... ...or maybe it was that she ate a Walrus... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:27:01 Once I had some stuff that wasn't stuffed with the same stuff that the other stuff was stuffed with. This stuff was stuffed with stuff that the stuff of stuff that all stuff comes from. I don't know whatever happened to it though. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 14:27:13 ...I knew a Walrus once... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:27:32 ...he liked stuff, too.. by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:28:03 I'm pretty sure it's not the fumes but comment 428 that gave me a headache by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:28:18 Y'know...if you read the poem, the walrus was the bad guy (at least the oysters thought so.) I wonder if this message means that Tachyon buried Paul... by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 14:28:29 Why don't know know the Walrus anymore? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:28:48 ...sometimes we'd sit around and all we'd talk about is stuff this and stuff that... .... .... .....holy crap, was that Walrus really talking to me???!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:29:03 ...sorry about the headache and stuff... by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 14:29:32 Moondoogle I think you may be on to something by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:29:37 Not that there's anything wrong with talking Walruses.... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:32:18 ....it explains Rosie O'Donnell... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:32:48 ...and Rush Limbaugh.... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:33:04 Incidentally...it isn't “Koo-koo-ku-choo.†It's Goo-goo-gah-joob.' Lennon lifted it from the James Joyce book, 'Finnegan's Wake.' by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 14:33:35 ...what the hell does that make Britney Spears, though? by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:33:45 In the little screen shot for her last video on the left of the page, is it just me or does Bree look like she's wearing a superman outfit, sorta? Or maybe that's just the fumes talking... by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:34:28 ...I guess she could be a talking carp...or maybe a jellyfish.... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:35:10 So....Bree's parents are from Krypton? Is that what this is all about? by rojo13 on 2007-02-28 14:36:07 ...I think Superman/Bree (SuperBree!) would work much better if she was a giant talking carp.... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:36:12 *MEEP* by Perky on 2007-02-28 14:36:44 ...with X-Ray vision... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:36:49 I thought her outfit looked kinda Spidermanish. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 14:36:51 ...waht the hell would a carp do with X-Ray vision, though....??? by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:37:19 *wave* *passes out a few Grape Nehi* by mikel888 on 2007-02-28 14:37:50 I keep seeing the word PURPLE in all the comments below, and I think you guys are talking to me! meep! Hey WO, how goes it today? I think I have been bad, or something. I am confused. I got fussed at and don't know why? *sad meep* I am usually the peacemaker...... by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 14:38:01 I like talking carps with x-ray vision and stuff... by rojo13 on 2007-02-28 14:39:54 Mikel! Hey, what's up?! Can I have a Nehi. Do you have anything strong and purple to mix it with? by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 14:40:48 Perky! wow you are here too! All my friends are here. Except Dream. awwwww *sad meep* by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 14:41:42 ....nothing wrong going on in here today...just spray painting with SuperBree the giant carp and a talking Walrus who changed the silly words from John Lennons stolen lyrics... ... ... ... damn...good fumes!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:41:43 ...and stuff... by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 14:44:11 .....mmmm...stuff.....*meep* by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:47:15 ...Dream is at a stupid, boring, takes her away from me conference....but she'll be back tomorrow!!! YAY!!! *looks at mess in here* ...uh oh! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:49:00 I wish I was smart enough to take the subject matter from the last ten minutes and make another lonelycheer, alas I am not that creative, epically at the end of the work day. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:49:07 I want to see Jonas make a video while he is tied up. lol :P by london on 2007-02-28 14:49:33 WO, it's not a mess, it's modern art!! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:49:34 London, best idea ever! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:50:04 A "Jonas is tied-up" video...are you sure that's not a video-nasty? by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 14:51:50 I was thinking more along the lines of "i'm tied up and somehow got a hold of a camera and loaded this" video by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 14:55:05 Hiya Lynds! How is everyone today? by Perky on 2007-02-28 14:55:17 HI EVERYONE~!!!! /waves by HoorayForMeImMakingOut on 2007-02-28 14:57:24 come on, where's the next video? 464TTTTTTHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!1 by gmios on 2007-02-28 14:57:46 Darn I thought there would be a new vid by now. *looks around*...why are you all purple? by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 15:02:37 Perky!! *meep meep* What's new? by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:03:06 Bree, You now have had an opportunity to question Jonas on the disappearance of his parents and his time with the nanny/guardian. I hope the news was understandable and that you have been provided with the proper leads. By now, I am sure Daniel found the necessary information on Jonas's cell phone. Hope all is well. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 15:03:17 Ohh...the purple....that'd be my fault... Um...does anyone know how to stop a runaway remote control airplane with spray paint on it? by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:04:16 Don't stop it, the purple isn't hurting anyone. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:05:14 What do I care if everything is purple. I'm a tea pot. These fumes...I tell ya...I haven't felt this good in years... by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 15:07:11 So Jonas is tied to a chair. What if he needs to go to the bathroom? Has he been holding it in? Is he wetting himself? Does Bree or Daniel pull down his pants and position an empty slurpee cup between his legs? Do they flip a coin to decide who holds the cup? Will Jonas get excited if Daniel holds the cup? What if he has to do something other then piss? MEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Joe on 2007-02-28 15:07:40 ....I couldn't stop it even if wanted to at this point DoS... I guess eventually it'll run out of paint... ..or the fumes will erase some childhood memories... ... whatever comes first! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:08:37 #473 Joe, Maybe he's tied to a toilet. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 15:09:31 Hurry up new video!! by crashing_star2 on 2007-02-28 15:10:43 Joe...GEEZ!!! Didn't you ever watch The Brady Bunch??!! NO ONE EVER uses the bathroom in Hollywood!! ...either that or... ....they did to him what that crazy astronaut lady did... ....eeeEEeeeWWWwwwWWWww!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:10:46 I hope they address the bathroom issue! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:11:34 I kinda hope they don't address the bathroom issue. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 15:12:17 Uh...damn fumes.. I mean.. What a private matter, we shouldn't be discussing this! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:12:18 ...see, in the Yellow Snow episode, we KNOW daniel uses the bathroom, and Bree was in there for a bit at Jonas' house...BUT up until now, no one really knows if Jonas actually uses it or not... And IF he doesn't...then that means he's a Grigori!!! (Because "Angels are ill-equipped" !!) by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:14:58 468 Hiya WO... believe it or not, I'm actually doing homework! There's a good chance I will be up-to-date by sometime this evening. Maybe. If I don't get distracted first. ;-) How are you surviving Dream-goes-to-a-conference? by Perky on 2007-02-28 15:17:39 *meeeeeeeeeep* *kisses WO* by Dream on 2007-02-28 15:19:24 How am I doing, Perky? ...stupid, crappy...boring...conference....shmonference... Just fine, actually !!... *tries to grin* *fails miserably* I MISS HER!!! *starts bawling* by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:20:28 hehe, does that help the survival? sneaking i-net time whenever possible... Hi Perky! by Dream on 2007-02-28 15:21:10 OMG!!!! HI BABY!!! *springs up* *Kisses Dream* YAY!!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:21:40 seems definitely like we came back from dinner at the right time... *kisses WO again* Yeah, Baby, I'm failing as miserably at smiling small talk with the colleagues, cause I want to be somewhere else... by Dream on 2007-02-28 15:23:15 I've uh....re-decorated in here a little.... *hides spray paint can behind back* by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:23:16 Tied to the toilet, hmmm? That might work. But then what if Bree or Daniel need to go? Are we sure they have more then one bathroom? We need bathroom question answered. Too many things go unresolved on here. I WANT TO KNOW! by Joe on 2007-02-28 15:23:32 What did you do, WO? *suspicious* Has it been as purple in here when I last looked? by Dream on 2007-02-28 15:24:44 #481 - dogma - you rly do know yr movies :) by logana on 2007-02-28 15:25:15 Ummmm..... .... .... well..... ... ...no it wasn't always quite THIS purple in here... *ducks as airplane buzzes head* by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:26:08 w/e by Casualsef on 2007-02-28 15:27:09 I have a vision in my head of Bree busting into the small dim room that Jonas is being kept in after hours of listening to him whine about going to the bathroom. She smashes the door open an channeling Arnold Schwarzenegger's character from Kindergarten Cop screams into his face "THERE IS NO BATHROOM" and storms away. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:29:11 *airplane fies by my head and sprays me with purple paint.* *glares at WO* by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 15:29:23 I think I don't even want to know... I'll read up on what happened on this board tomorrow... I'm still recovering from catching up on yesterday's conversation... Or rather from two comments in particular, one that made me laugh out loud (rofl, purple!) and one that... grrrr, I won't mention in detail because otherwise I'd have to get angry. Sorry, can't comment on topic, since still no chance to watch the vid. by Dream on 2007-02-28 15:30:21 Joe do you really want to know or is that the fumes talking? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:30:24 Don't be mad at the purple, it's art! We're all art now! Very high on fumes art! ART! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:31:19 P.S. WO and Dream, stop it! You two have maxed out the sections cute quota. ;-) by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:32:03 Art? SPIN ART?!?!? NOOOO! by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 15:32:13 Yeah, it's better you don't know, Dream darling! *hooks arm in arm* *starts strolling through the purple room* It's actually quite nice... ....we'll never find where WatchingTwo went, though... by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:33:26 Unless one of the planes wings goes screwy I don't think it qualifies as spin art. We could try finger painting, but I don't think spin art is happening by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:33:41 499 AMEN Dutchess! Hahaha. Hiya Dream! When do you get back to a normal schedule? by Perky on 2007-02-28 15:33:55 Perky, Dutchess, haha, no way, you have to put up with us now. I promise to do some serious research again as well once I'm home, but tonight you gotta give me a little leeway. Have had to talk serious stuff all day, need a few WO cuddles now. And cant enter chat from here. by Dream on 2007-02-28 15:39:13 Alright, I guess I can understand. I'll just sit here and play with the purple paint puddles. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:40:47 Wow, and DANIEL was the person that thought he was part of the order.... by bestgamertech on 2007-02-28 15:41:16 Yay cuddles!!! *hugs Dream* by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:41:23 506: What made you think that? by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:42:08 Perky...stop rolling your eyes at us!! LOL! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:42:14 Reading the most recent comments, I have condensed them into one phrase: purple toilets by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 15:43:16 510-ROFL!!!!! :D by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 15:44:08 *watches plane hit wall....* *spinning wildly out of control* O.K.....NOW we have spin art!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:44:28 Actually...Purple toilets and "stuff"....would probably most accurate. by rojo13 on 2007-02-28 15:44:50 EricaRocks, lol, I haven't had the time to read through the comments, so thanks for the summary! Purple toilets. Now that's something to think about. by Dream on 2007-02-28 15:45:06 509 You can't make me :P by Perky on 2007-02-28 15:45:28 NO! *hides behind ER.* Not the spin art! by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 15:45:41 Spin art is not good! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2007-02-28 15:46:20 no pizza and ice cream though...we DO have Bundt Cake And Grape Nehi!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:47:22 lol Opladybug, quick! Behind the snow fort! It's slightly melted...more like a slush fort...but it will do!!! by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 15:48:33 *ducks into bunker* No way to avoid the spin art here, huh? When did the Order get you all? *looks at now purple business clothes* *sighs* Gotta go anyway, so, umm, don't get evil on me! *kisses WO good night* *sticks tongue out at Perky* by Dream on 2007-02-28 15:48:42 *watches plane crash into toilet bowl* *hears Jonas wailing* "HEY!!! I was USING THAT!!!!!" by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:48:45 oooo bundnt cake! by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 15:49:16 *kisses Dream goodnight* C U Soon, Dream!! *meep* by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:49:35 So Bree's crazy and we're installing purple toilets in all bathrooms? nice. by blackitty on 2007-02-28 15:49:57 There is no doubt Daniel was "compromised" when he was held captive by Lucy and The Deacons. Do not believe he would intentionally hurt Bree. Anything that he may do to hurt her would be from the influences of his captors. Daniel's feelings for Bree override what the captors tried to destroy. No, Bree could not have tied Jonas up without help. When Bree first contacted daniel with the find, they probably originally agreed to tie Jonas up. However, Daniel is not in agreeance with Bree's tactics. Screaming does not easily persuade someone to do what you want them to. Bree, Just remember, Jonas does not realize the information he has is valuable. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 15:50:48 Ladies and gentlemen... while I find purple is a particularly flattering color for my complexion... I cannot stay around for the spin art. It might kill me, but I'm almost caught up on my school work, so I must leave the Breeniverse for a while. Please, have a slice of bundt cake on my behalf. *meep* by Perky on 2007-02-28 15:51:39 Good night and good luck, Perky!! *meep*!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:53:06 519 ER a slushie fort? That is even worse. by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 15:53:41 ...sooooo...who's left... *eyes Walrus and SuperCarp* by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:53:42 I'm here. You just can't see me 'cause I'm blended in with the purple walls. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 15:54:49 AHHH!! sorry..scared me Moon!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:59:12 Dutchess of Sassland, I want to know and so do the fumes, they talk to me sometimes. by Joe on 2007-02-28 15:59:16 528 ...well....maybe it's time to tear down the ol' "snow" fort....*sniff*...until next winter But what can I make a fort out of now? ... Purple toilets? by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 15:59:33 Good Camo!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 15:59:36 As long as there's snow in the video backgrounds, I say, keep the fort. Besides, I'm pretty sure the snowballs don't sting quite as much as the oranges folks will undoubtedly be throwing at each other this summer. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 16:02:23 http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/645321/2/istockphoto_645321_purple_toilet.jpg And I thought purple toilets were a myth. by Joe on 2007-02-28 16:04:12 I think we...um...i mean ...THE FROST... efectively wiped out a lot of Oranges in "Khali-Fore-E-Uh" this year...maybe we start throwing....hmmmmm...can't think of anything else evil.......slushies? by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 16:05:00 535 lol Too true! Maybe a softer alternative could be found? Orange roses? ORANGE SNOCONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok not so sft....but I love it... *Rummaging around for Snoopy snocone maker* by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 16:06:35 Since it's close to Easter, I'm gonna collect a bunch of marshmallow peeps as ammo. When those run out, I'm going straight for the boiled eggs. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 16:08:46 WO, Tangerines are orange. by Joe on 2007-02-28 16:09:38 Silly Joe! I may be sitting on a pegasus, talking to the unicorn about his leprechaun friend, but I do not make up myths! by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 16:10:30 TANGERINES!!! YES!! Evil tangerines!! We can use those! ...*starts stockpiling ammo* Been fun tonight guys...changing venues so i can go feed the lonelyBeagle at home! C U later! *meep*!! by WatchingOne on 2007-02-28 16:11:32 Moon...peeps...excellent...I never eat the little buggers anyway... by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 16:12:12 EricaRocks, Now I know you're making things up, leprechauns don't have friends. by Joe on 2007-02-28 16:13:34 Has anyone else noticed that the object Bree found in Jonas' place wasn't the Watcher symbol? It's actually a combination of Theta and Pi which from what I gather means something along the lines of "you have the benefit of divine or all powerful protection as you persist in your struggles. Continue on, for ultimately you will succeed." This sounds to me like a symbol to denote a group that wants to help Bree, not harm her. Tachyon's symbol perhaps? After all, the symbol is in opposition to the Watcher symbol in her file that Daniel decoded. Just a thought. Arial by Arial on 2007-02-28 16:20:10 Time to go home to a broken computer which means no more lonelycrack for me. :( meep To sad to meep with enthusiasm. by Joe on 2007-02-28 16:20:47 New video coming VERY soon. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 16:21:38 #545, Yeah, we were discussing the difference in symbols earlier. Nice catch though. by Moondoogle on 2007-02-28 16:22:01 the 'opposite of watcher' thing seems likely, but the question is: are the watchers actually evil, or are THEY the protectors? after all, we were warned about them by Gemma by logana on 2007-02-28 16:23:39 New vid? new vid? where?!?!?! OMG WHERE! *pants.* by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 16:26:29 Joe, no wonder your computer is broken...leprechauns are not kind to people who say mean things about them. Fix it fix it fix it!!!!! by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 16:28:48 I have just discovered MySpace. Some interesting details. Log In Dates: Bree 2/27/07 Jonas 2/24/07*** Youtube log in dates: Bree: 55 minutes ago Daniel: 22 hours ago Jonas 1 week ago by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 16:34:03 Sarah,what does that stand for? by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 16:38:04 Most likely, the new video will not be from Jonas. But more likely Bree or Daniel. My thought is Bree. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 16:39:41 Am I the only one that thinks that there may be some possibility that Daniel is in on this thing as much as Jonas is. As I recall Daniel was the first to suspect that jonas may be a part of "The Order"...and now he's acting as if Bree has totally lost her frickin mind (Which may be true). My point is...Can we really trust anyone?... ~Rachelle by Lonelyliar15 on 2007-02-28 16:44:01 Who was it that said? "Trust No one." by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 16:48:11 552 SARAH- just so you know, the Creators have told us that the youtube log-in times are no longer supposed to be reflective of the story by AlliBean on 2007-02-28 16:53:13 I am just saying that the log in times for Jonas reflect with Bree's story of holding him captive. by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 16:59:06 346: Now, that's crazy talk... I may be funny once in awhile, but please, don't elevate me to Joe status ... that's gonna take some pretty big laughs ... ;) by QtheC on 2007-02-28 17:11:21 559- How about if I say you guys are a great comedy team? Is that better? lol by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 17:25:06 aww, I liked the trend of comming home from school and having a new video to watch. Oh well. by Determination on 2007-02-28 17:26:23 387 Dutchess of Sassland (send note) Says: February 28th, 2007 at 1:26 pm As interesting of a plot twist as that would be, could you imagine how Bree and Daniel (2 people who have kissed) would react to that news? I don’t think that’s something I’d want to see… ----- If you don't want to see something like that, then you should NOT watch this LOST fan vid I made, particularly the kissing scene starting about 1:00 "What Kate Really Did" www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1xanjIXD9c by QtheC on 2007-02-28 17:28:29 s;; od mpy yjsy oy drr,d by jonas nanny on 2007-02-28 17:35:21 510: Thank you EricaRocks, for the concise summary. by QtheC on 2007-02-28 17:50:10 539: Purple Marshmallow Peeps! ... Oh my. Murple Parshmallow Meeps? ... Oh my. Um, ignore this comment, it doesn't even make sense to me. by QtheC on 2007-02-28 17:56:08 Time for an update with a new vid? i think yes. i'm freaking out and i keep checking this site every 5 minutes. we've heard bree and daniels view lets hear what jonas has to say! by hollishillis on 2007-02-28 17:58:46 hmmmm, I should have picked another username. Everytime I see the word "purple" in a comment, I think someone is talking to me. Does that make me a narcissist? meep! by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 18:06:18 Creators? Can we get something to spark conversation? It's kinda boring here... by EricaRocks on 2007-02-28 18:19:43 Why no new vid. Creators,have I done something wrong? by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 18:23:59 Maybe they are trying to include purple toilets in the video. :P by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 18:30:09 I want Jonas to be a good guy. by onychea on 2007-02-28 18:31:17 RE: 566 hollishillis Says: "Time for an update with a new vid? i think yes. i’m freaking out and i keep checking this site every 5 minutes. we’ve heard bree and daniels view lets hear what jonas has to say!" Jonas says, "MMRRMFF FMMMFFFRRRF MFRMFMF MFMMRM". by Toad on 2007-02-28 18:33:10 Too funny Toad! I shall add you to my list with Joe and QtheC. I always get a laugh out of you guys! by purplepassion on 2007-02-28 18:37:45 I made the list!! I would like to thank the Academy and my agent....oops, wrong speech. Thanks purplepassion, I aim to please. by Toad on 2007-02-28 18:48:11 *glances at Joe* *glances at self* Toad, um, congratulations? by QtheC on 2007-02-28 19:03:46 Next video... Bree: So, I did some research on the internet, and I found some REALLY interesting techniques for hostage interrogation... by QtheC on 2007-02-28 19:06:26 Chinese Water Torture by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 19:07:35 Or maybe Bree will create a online video series and forces Jonas to watch them but and uploads vids often but then just stops load....gah IT SOUNDS SO HORRIBLE! by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 19:27:13 ... or maybe the interrogation technique is EXACTLY the same as the technique she was using to help Daniel and Jonas work out their differences in 0138 "Men are From Mars" ... Bree: Jonas, now, I have prepared a list of questions I want answers to. You can either answer these, or I have this other list *pat pat* right here I can ask you about your feelings ... dun dun dun (scary music) by QtheC on 2007-02-28 19:35:06 #579: Truth or Dare Part 2? by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-28 19:40:39 It's been a few hours since I said this, so I have to repeat myself. SHOW JONAS IN ROPES, CHAINS, AND DUCT TAPE! (Please.) by Paulo on 2007-02-28 19:42:03 (*whispers* yes please) by Opladybug on 2007-02-28 19:49:26 A while back, I drempt that Bree got taken by a member of the Order (who wasn't THAT evil), and Jonas got shot in the back of the head. Please Creators, don't bring my dream to fruition. Although, I think it's a good sign that Bree was trying to get away by running into Insurance Agencies.... Because we all know that we have more to fear from Insurance agents then we do from anyone else ever. by randijeanw on 2007-02-28 19:58:53 jonas is a pansy. lol. sorry to say it but i can't see him being "evil" he's not cool enough. However, because it would be interesting and i dont' really like Jonas,,...i hope it is a baddy, by crabchel on 2007-03-01 09:12:30 i wonder if anyone will notice i commented on this video? hmmm by Supa Mario on 2007-03-25 19:52:10 jonas isn't in the order.....is he??? by lg20 on 2007-08-29 07:11:59 I couldn't agree with you more Danielbeast. She's totally lost all sense of reality. Pretty soon she might blame you Daniel for being part of the order. so beware. by fallenangel81 on 2007-08-31 15:01:46 She has gone mad!!! Jonas has done nothing but help her. Yeah, the Gemma thing was kind of a shock, but, I don't think Jonas would do something like that to her. by xlonelymeganx15 on 2007-10-06 17:53:10 Hey, do yall member when at like 0:17 a few vids ago, when Jonas was showing them his house, before they even went to meet him i think, you could see a watcher's sign through a hole in his jeans. I'm a jonas 100% fan, so i kno dat even if he is in the order, he's still trying to help her. I mean it was HIS voice in the season 1 recap. And as for Gemma, she was a sketchball from the beginning. Jonas PWNS by juicyjuice13 on 2008-05-12 14:20:09 |