<center><iframe width='560' height='315' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/86Fe6LICKKk' title='YouTube video player' frameborder='0' allow='accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share' allowfullscreen></iframe><br ><font size=4>Title: <b>How Dumb Am I?</b> posted by lonelygirl15 on 2007-02-27 15:02:18</font><br /></center><hr width='70%' /><center><table width=70%><tr><td>new vid!<br /><i>by jon on 2007-02-26 15:13:15</i><br /><hr />FIRST!!!<br /><i>by RaeRae on 2007-02-26 15:13:22</i><br /><hr />FFFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!! :)<br /><i>by LONGTIMELURKER on 2007-02-26 15:13:23</i><br /><hr />first<br /><i>by jowriter on 2007-02-26 15:13:28</i><br /><hr />TOP!<br /><i>by whisper on 2007-02-26 15:13:28</i><br /><hr />top 10!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by tina5314 on 2007-02-26 15:13:39</i><br /><hr />NUMERO DEUX!

Hehehe awesome! :D

xyz<br /><i>by Jinxy007 on 2007-02-26 15:13:44</i><br /><hr />wooot!!<br /><i>by sarahboo on 2007-02-26 15:13:53</i><br /><hr />i was catching up on comments to the other vid. MEEP<br /><i>by RaeRae on 2007-02-26 15:13:54</i><br /><hr />Woosh!  top 15?<br /><i>by Claireh on 2007-02-26 15:13:58</i><br /><hr />oh my gossssh exciting.<br /><i>by hollishillis on 2007-02-26 15:14:12</i><br /><hr />Score!  top 10 :D<br /><i>by Claireh on 2007-02-26 15:14:15</i><br /><hr />good video<br /><i>by glasseagle on 2007-02-26 15:15:32</i><br /><hr />yo!<br /><i>by kermatron on 2007-02-26 15:15:44</i><br /><hr />"How dumb am I?" ...you really want to pull at that thread? hahaha<br /><i>by chicaamber on 2007-02-26 15:15:49</i><br /><hr />FFFFFFIIIIRRRSSSSTTT!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!
*meep*<br /><i>by P_Monkey_Is_A_Wanker on 2007-02-26 15:16:03</i><br /><hr />*KICKS THE GENERAL IN THE PACKAGE*<br /><i>by LordGreystoke422 on 2007-02-26 15:16:10</i><br /><hr />top 20?<br /><i>by Joel on 2007-02-26 15:16:34</i><br /><hr />Bundt cake for all!<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:17:12</i><br /><hr />ahhhh a new video!!!! glee!<br /><i>by rubyred11 on 2007-02-26 15:17:18</i><br /><hr />holyyyy wow. bree is on a mission. does this mean shes going to keep jonas hostage? oh my goooosssshhh this is awesome.<br /><i>by hollishillis on 2007-02-26 15:18:01</i><br /><hr />wow<br /><i>by blackbirdsinging on 2007-02-26 15:19:13</i><br /><hr />OMG..top 5,000,000! a new record for me!<br /><i>by the_follower on 2007-02-26 15:19:17</i><br /><hr />oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!! i knew it<br /><i>by afcavegirl2002 on 2007-02-26 15:19:39</i><br /><hr />whoah buddy. I'm worried for the lives of P-Monkey, Owen, and Thor<br /><i>by KitCatMnM on 2007-02-26 15:20:32</i><br /><hr />she's either on to jonas or getting paranoid in her angst.

but I really hope jonas isn't bad.  Even if his hair is, occasionally.<br /><i>by eliza on 2007-02-26 15:21:10</i><br /><hr />ohhhh snap! here comes the knew action pack kick ass bree!!! no fury like a woman scorned! you go girl!!!<br /><i>by rubyred11 on 2007-02-26 15:21:12</i><br /><hr />I'm ecited to be in the top 3 and now I will post how I feel about the vid.  Mannnyyyyyy people had a feeling about Jona$$ ,I for one am not surprised.<br /><i>by LONGTIMELURKER on 2007-02-26 15:21:14</i><br /><hr />Whoa, Bree is on the attack!  Go Bree!  Kick some @$$!!!!<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:21:49</i><br /><hr />I don't think Jonas can really be bad... can he?<br /><i>by kikiriki on 2007-02-26 15:22:07</i><br /><hr />*new

silly me :)<br /><i>by rubyred11 on 2007-02-26 15:22:13</i><br /><hr />WHY MUST THE CUTE GUYS ALWAYS BE EVIL!<br /><i>by Claireh on 2007-02-26 15:22:15</i><br /><hr />Lame. 

Jonas was the only good thing about lonelygirl.<br /><i>by PaleNovember527 on 2007-02-26 15:22:19</i><br /><hr />FFFFIIIRRRSSSTTT!!!!111!!!!!111!!

*meep*<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-26 15:22:56</i><br /><hr />FFFffIIiIIRRrrrRRRssssSSSSttttTTTtt!!!!!!!!111!!

*Salutes the General*

*kisses Dream!*

*meep*!!!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-26 15:23:09</i><br /><hr />thank god. bree it's about time. you've been so preoccupied with blocking everything you havn't even QUESTIONED those around you. We all knew there was something fishy about jonas. glad you finally decided to take action. you and daniel shoudl tie him up and MAKE him give you answers. you're not safee!!!!<br /><i>by hollishillis on 2007-02-26 15:23:19</i><br /><hr />People have always mistrusted Jonas. I think that, no matter what kind of email response they got, she would have gone to his house anyway to advance the plot. Why else not do it straight on the forums like everything else?<br /><i>by KitCatMnM on 2007-02-26 15:23:30</i><br /><hr />"How dumb am I?" I wouldn't ask if I were you Bree. Wow, this video is about as "deep" as Bree has ever gotten. :P<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2007-02-26 15:24:18</i><br /><hr />Jonas IS a part of the order!! MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP<br /><i>by RaeRae on 2007-02-26 15:24:34</i><br /><hr />what was the thing that had the symbol on it???
ill watch again but anyone know?<br /><i>by Silence141 on 2007-02-26 15:24:56</i><br /><hr />Yay. New videos make me happy.<br /><i>by jenni on 2007-02-26 15:25:33</i><br /><hr />FIRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSTTT *SALUTES THE GENERAL* meep. to answer her question...pretty dumb<br /><i>by jennamarie xo on 2007-02-26 15:25:40</i><br /><hr />Wow. I didn't see this coming!<br /><i>by Joel on 2007-02-26 15:26:11</i><br /><hr />hmmm...<br /><i>by Iris2009 on 2007-02-26 15:26:01</i><br /><hr />top 50??? impressed<br /><i>by pixie5886 on 2007-02-26 15:26:14</i><br /><hr />kinda intense<br /><i>by jowriter on 2007-02-26 15:26:23</i><br /><hr />I'm still holding onto a slim hope that Gemma will have some sort of explanation for herself. I think she was set up by the monkey. As for Jonas, this is know surprise, but very interesting the way it played out. Hopefully she's a lost fan and she learned a few things from Sayid.<br /><i>by P_Monkey_Is_A_Wanker on 2007-02-26 15:26:54</i><br /><hr />too good to be true, how can she have 2 guys after her and one of them not be with the Order.... it all makes sense now.. GO BAD BREE... but where is Daniel?<br /><i>by redapples21 on 2007-02-26 15:27:13</i><br /><hr />FFFFFIIRRRRSDTTTTTTT!!!!<br /><i>by AlliBean on 2007-02-26 15:27:16</i><br /><hr />Did she... did she just say she holds Jonas hostage? Bree goes Buffy on us!<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-26 15:27:22</i><br /><hr />Bree is getting smarter...Cant wait.<br /><i>by Iris2009 on 2007-02-26 15:27:16</i><br /><hr />Ummmm...movie drop...Clueless?

Also...Bree's eyes are PURPLE now ??!!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-26 15:28:18</i><br /><hr />40

Looked like a bookmark to me!  LOL<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:28:31</i><br /><hr />Yesss!  This is what I have been waiting for!<br /><i>by butterfly on 2007-02-26 15:28:54</i><br /><hr />Argh, more movie drops... *kisses WO* You solve that one. ;)<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-26 15:29:13</i><br /><hr />Daniel must be thrilled!<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:30:32</i><br /><hr />I never really liked the Bree Character and its been a down-hill slide for awhile. But Jessica Rose kicks butt and I just love her. She's so cute and I hope she also does some other work. Anywho, I told them not to trust Jon-ass from the start but the plant who sent them to Jonas wouldn't listen. Grrrrr :0<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2007-02-26 15:31:51</i><br /><hr />Jonas isn't part of OpAphid.
The symbol she held up was the 'Pi', the symbol with two legs.
 The Watcher symbol holds the 'Mu', or three-legged.
 Seems to me that there is more than one organization. Jonas is part of it, but I don't think he's the bad guy.
Y'think Daniel may have dropped it?<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 15:33:07</i><br /><hr />Dude, she's holding Jonas hostage?  Awesome!

Poor guy is going to have a hard time proving it if he's not in the Order.

Maybe we'll get some answers finally.

But will Lucy and her crew try to come and rescue Jonas?  If he's working for them, then they must know where the cabin is.

Okay time to read comments.

Meep!<br /><i>by AlliBean on 2007-02-26 15:33:37</i><br /><hr />The whole Gemma conspiracy was hardly elaborate. Shhheshhh... Seriously, Bree isn't the sharpest knife in the block..more like a butter knife really :P<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2007-02-26 15:35:31</i><br /><hr />Why must this take so long to load?!?!<br /><i>by Opladybug on 2007-02-26 15:35:57</i><br /><hr />Cool! Bree has finally taken an initiative. I liked the end, she is right, she lost her innocence once she saw her dad murdered in front of her. I just don't like the fact that Jonas is evil. I really liked his character. And why is this the first time she addresses the whole Gemma thing?<br /><i>by belu214 on 2007-02-26 15:36:18</i><br /><hr />OpAphid dude 1: hey who the hell is jonas?

Op dude 2: that guys shes been living with

Op dude 1:o yeahhhh...you think she figured out were 

two guys in our mom's basement?

Op dude 2: not a chance. MOOOOMM MORE HOT 
POCKETS!!!!!!!<br /><i>by Silence141 on 2007-02-26 15:36:40</i><br /><hr />TOP 100! Haven't been in this area for a while, now to watch the video<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-26 15:36:44</i><br /><hr />Notice that the symbol on Jonas's bookmark/popsicle stick thing is the Theta over Pi symbol, rather than the Theta over Mu symbol that was tattooed on Watcher hands, etc.  It has been speculated (in hte ARG forum) that these symbols might reference different branches of the Order.  Thoughts?  Does this mean Jonas and his family were in a different part of the Order or held a different rank than the foot soldier/Watcher guys?<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:39:15</i><br /><hr />this series is officially impossible to understand for the average viewer who doesn't have time to be sherlock holmes. 

did i miss something? since when is jonas bad? Just because Bree found the symbol? Someone save me from deleting this page from my bookmarks...<br /><i>by kermatron on 2007-02-26 15:39:45</i><br /><hr />But Jonas is way to cute and nice to be in on it!!!  I don't wanna believe it!<br /><i>by KrimsonAndClover on 2007-02-26 15:39:47</i><br /><hr />Ay, krig. Read #58<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 15:40:10</i><br /><hr />Wow! I knew Jonas was bad!<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-26 15:41:57</i><br /><hr />58 Moondoogle, you got there first (while I was typing 65)!  As you can see, I agree this is a little more complex than just saying he is in the Order.<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:42:05</i><br /><hr />Ahhh!  I hope she kills him!<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2007-02-26 15:43:18</i><br /><hr />68 Moondoogle

LOL We should form a synchronized posting team!<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:43:19</i><br /><hr />Oh, and Moondoogle, I just noticed that you said that maybe Daniel dropped that thing and she found it.  You are right, we don't really know the context in which it was found....it may be a plant to drive Bree away from the safety of Jonas.  Nothing is ever certain around here!<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:45:22</i><br /><hr />I HAVE JONAS!! 
Great twist. 

PS. #63.. haha, you're funny!<br /><i>by Ella on 2007-02-26 15:47:01</i><br /><hr />55-drops? where?<br /><i>by Opladybug on 2007-02-26 15:48:25</i><br /><hr />cool<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2007-02-26 15:48:38</i><br /><hr />thank ya 
;)<br /><i>by Silence141 on 2007-02-26 15:48:58</i><br /><hr />Top 90? Darn it!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-26 15:50:18</i><br /><hr />This is awesome!  Way to go, Bree!<br /><i>by yarvin on 2007-02-26 15:51:14</i><br /><hr />80ish...and now for my viewing pleasure....<br /><i>by euphasia on 2007-02-26 15:52:51</i><br /><hr />So, building off of what Moondoogle said, that thing looks like an elementary school art project made with a popsicle stick.  Daniel probably made a xerox of one of the symbols from Tachyon's images, pasted it on a painted stick and left it for Bree to find because he is sooooo jealous right now.<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 15:53:09</i><br /><hr />Man, someone beat me to the "Oh SNAP!!"  :)  

I like how she's like "I'VE GOT JONAS!"  I'm imagining him all trussed up and hanging from a pole like a pig roasting over a fire.  :)  LOL, GOTTA SEE THAT!!

We all knew one or both of the guys was fishy, it's about time she wised up.  Although he must not be an immediate or direct threat to Bree, or else you'd think Tachyon would've warned her?  Unless Tachyon's files were the warning... but I think they mean more than that.  Maybe Tachyon didn't know about Jonas?  Obviously there's something more going here than Jonas just being a member of the Order...

So does this mean we're finally gonna get to learn more about the Order and what they want Bree for, and why they need this elaborate spy set-up and why they haven't just snatched her up and forced her to do the ceremony?  And what exactly are they trying to accomplish?  Please, need more answers about the Order!  :)<br /><i>by JRae on 2007-02-26 15:53:09</i><br /><hr />I KNEW it!!! Oh dear its gone all deliverence up there in the cabin...
But if Jonas is a watcher..and Gemma said watchers were bad...wouldn't that mean he is good? I'm so confused! I better read the comments....<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-26 15:54:43</i><br /><hr />(well when Bree first arrived at Jonas's he tried to feed her some chocolate ice cream to cheer her up which she refused and then Daniel got high on the Orders Ben&amp;Jerrys's.... was that a clue? LOL)<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-26 15:57:38</i><br /><hr />Doh! I left just before this posted to bring my son to CCD. Darn it all. Oh, and FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRST!
or 84ish<br /><i>by lonelymom13 on 2007-02-26 15:57:46</i><br /><hr />lonelymom! If you and me didnt have kids I'm sure we would be fiiiiirrrsst! (But we're puting our family fiiiiirrrssstt! LOL)<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-26 16:00:38</i><br /><hr />top 100....yay?<br /><i>by Trekker6000 on 2007-02-26 16:01:58</i><br /><hr />So, I'm depressed that Jonas is bad. I still think he's hot however. For the next video, I'm imagining him tied up in a chair and Bree and Daniel are interrogating him and all he's doing is just sitting there smirking, refusing to talk. :)<br /><i>by hopelessbliever on 2007-02-26 16:01:56</i><br /><hr />Jonas: OK Bree...lets try and hug this out

Bree: (from other side of the locked door)shut up watcher I know what you're up to!

Jonas: But we went hiking...I made you p&amp;j sandwiches!

(cut to Daniel in Jonas's room whisteling contentedly whilst planting more watcher symbols)
Daniel: Take my proving science wrong partner on a hike will ya "bro"???<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-26 16:04:24</i><br /><hr />wow that was deep...<br /><i>by Spackle on 2007-02-26 16:07:14</i><br /><hr />OMG!!! IVE ALWAYS KNOWN!!! AND I NEVER KNEW IT!!! JONAS IS A WATCHER!!! MY PREDICTION FROM THE BEGGINING HAS COME TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by bestgamertech on 2007-02-26 16:07:28</i><br /><hr />TOP 100!!!! WOOOOO HOOOOOO!!! OH YEAAA<br /><i>by anm on 2007-02-26 16:07:30</i><br /><hr />89 GF ROFL!!!!!<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-26 16:08:26</i><br /><hr />From LGpedia: It may be EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT that the symbol on the object that Bree holds up is the two-legged Theta+Pi ligature, rather than three-legged Theta+Mu ligature that is the symbol of the Watchers. This is especially important in light of the fact that Jonas punched one of the Watchers. The meaning of the Theta+Pi ligature is currently unknown, and some fans suspect that it may represent an organization that is the rival of the Watchers.<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-26 16:09:31</i><br /><hr />I guess "Bro Down" = "Showdown"!!!!

hehehehehe<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 16:09:36</i><br /><hr />LOL
Jonas is duct taped to a chair in the bedroom being force fed orange slurpees until he talks.

I am still not sold on Jonas being bad.

It may be that Jonas is on the good side and Daniel is the evil dude trying to cover his tracks by seeding mistrust about Jonas.

To early to slag Jonas yet in my opinion.

Where did she find it?
Could any one have placed it there?
Could the guy out front have been a distraction while it was placed by someone else?
Does it even mean something bad or is it a sign belonging to someone who could be on Bree's side?
Could Jonas have found it while researching his parents disappearance?

Good plot twist though.<br /><i>by Toad on 2007-02-26 16:10:09</i><br /><hr />oh SNAP - just when we were all fooled...<br /><i>by Amelia on 2007-02-26 16:12:49</i><br /><hr />Toad, ALL good points!  Don't count Jonas out yet...it is Daniel who has been super suspicious lately....maybe Tachyon was sending him an "I'm on to you message" with those books and images.<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 16:13:38</i><br /><hr />Isn't Tachyon in the know before everyone else?  Tachyon knew Gemma was in the Order because Tachyon rescued Brother from her before Gemma got really involved with Bree.  So, I don't think Jonas is bad.  Tachyon would've said something when she spent the day with them.  And Tachyon has had all this time to check into Jonas' background and we haven't heard anything.<br /><i>by Rebecca on 2007-02-26 16:13:56</i><br /><hr />I hope there's a good explanation for all this because if Jonas disappears from the videos like Gemma did, then I'm not as likely to keep coming back. He's the only good thing going here!<br /><i>by annalo on 2007-02-26 16:14:36</i><br /><hr />u go guurrrrrrllll.....a bit of Tachyon has rubbed off on Bree...yaY<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2007-02-26 16:14:51</i><br /><hr />Dear CREATORS!!!!
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't make poor cute, handsome Jonas the bad guy..I can't and don't want to believe it..
My theory is that Danielbeast posted the symbol in that thing as a way at getting back at Jonas. Of course I think he wants Bree so badly he would do anything to win her over. If so..then how low of him.
OR...maybe Bree realizes that Jonas isn't into her and just wants to hold him hostage..

I prefer the latter<br /><i>by Pretty_Mely22 on 2007-02-26 16:15:12</i><br /><hr />Since they always refer to Jonas as "bro" could that be a hint that he's Tachyon's "brother"? And that's why Tachyon has no need to warn them about Jonas, because he is on the good side? Of course, if that's the case, then there has to be some reason they haven't let Bree in on this.

This could also go along with #94's comment about the symbol being that of an anti-watcher association...to which Jonas &amp; Tachyon belong.<br /><i>by justagirl on 2007-02-26 16:15:36</i><br /><hr />WOW, APOCALYPTICALLY INCREDIBLE MINDBLOWING VIDEO!!!

My favorite part is when she's like "To whoever's watching this... I have Jonas, and he's not going anywhere until he tells me everything." Bree's finally taking charge of the situation.

That said, some of this just doesn't add up. Some things that Jonas has said or done don't seem very Order-ish, like when he was advocating to "storm the castle" instead of Bree doing the ceremony.

Maybe he used to work for The Order, and later changed his mind? I dunno, but hopefully Bree will explain some of this in her next video, after interrogating Jonas for information.<br /><i>by Rua on 2007-02-26 16:22:06</i><br /><hr />99 Rebecca

Good point.  Since everyone (Bree, Jonas, Tachyon, Brother) seems to think that Daniel's conditioning/brainwashing has worn off, maybe Tachyon didn't yet perceive him (Daniel) as a threat when she was there for the day.  But...it is entirely possible that Daniel had a trigger (blatant Buffy reference), that was planted in his brain and was just waiting to be activated until after Tachyon was gone.  Or, there is still the more simple theory that Daniel hates Jonas and is jealous, so he planted the thing just to get them out of there.<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-26 16:22:31</i><br /><hr />Handsome people make the best villains.

I'm wondering how Bree overpowered the boxer.

...or even if she actually did.  You'd think she'd show him if she's got him in duct tape.

Technically, she just admitted to the crime of kidnapping and posted it on the internet.  But whatever.<br /><i>by Paulo on 2007-02-26 16:26:16</i><br /><hr />omg omg omg jonas is in it?!?!<br /><i>by sailormoon101 on 2007-02-26 16:27:20</i><br /><hr />i knew it!!!!<br /><i>by othail on 2007-02-26 16:29:22</i><br /><hr />worf.<br /><i>by supasamurai on 2007-02-26 16:32:10</i><br /><hr />Great video! Bumps up the ante for suspense! I don't think Jonas is bad. But either way, it's going to be fun seeing what Bree does next!<br /><i>by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-26 16:32:25</i><br /><hr />well i was right all along.  i thought it was just quite odd how gemma just popped up from no where and jonas came from no where i literally mean nowhere.  and the whole them going with him i've said no from the begining.  im surprised bree did disappear when she went for a walk by herself.  i mean it's obvious he is still using his cell phone for a reason.  and tachyon, knew something, but when is she making them decode stuff.  why not just tell them.  also in the fusball video when jonas was singing that song he said something like im from the order and im holding her captive and him and daniel just laughed it off.  but i thought to myself noone just says something like that in the kind of situation that they are in.  their were hints and the hints were plain!!! lol but what does she mean when she has jonas and she's not letting him go that's kind of funny...hehe anyways...NO MORE DUMB BREE YAY!<br /><i>by Stars on 2007-02-26 16:33:09</i><br /><hr />99 Rebecca: I'm sure Tachyon knew. The thing with Tach is that she never just "says" things :)<br /><i>by sidewalkflight on 2007-02-26 16:35:07</i><br /><hr />Perhaps ItsM is onto something...maybe it wasn't just clever fan fic<br /><i>by deadoktober on 2007-02-26 16:37:17</i><br /><hr />Aww I best get to bed as I have to get up early in the morning. Great video and great theories guys! 

(MM:crikey! How to do a review for this one? LOL..dont worry I've got lots of ideas already!)<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-26 16:37:25</i><br /><hr />Okay, soooo...(I like starting things off this way too).
My theory is that Jonas is a 'protector' of sorts. This explains his helpfulness, his involvement in the great Daniel heist, and his wanting to punch out the guy in the driveway.
 Another theory could be that the mezuzah(?) Bree found could have belonged to Tacheyon. It could belong to Daniel (I still think Danny's under the influence of spin art and ice cream), or it could just be a really rare pez dispenser.
 Either way, Jonas isn't a bad guy. Or he is a bad guy and the Watchers are good guys, or...
...hey, wait a minute. Do you think this whole series could be fake? Maybe these are just actors playing a role online. Nah, that's ridiculous...<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 16:38:40</i><br /><hr />There is NO WAY that Jonas is with the order.<br /><i>by Strinka on 2007-02-26 16:39:12</i><br /><hr />AWESOME VIDEO!  I love the fact that Bree is holding Jonas hostage and is working him for information.  My only advice though would be to move to another location that Jonas did not already know about because the Order knows where Bree &amp; Daniel are already.  I also think it was smart for Daniel to not have involved Bree and/or Jonas in decoding the clues because I think he himself was suspicious of Jonas and knew that even if he only involved Bree that Jonas would become aware as well.  I've always been suspicious of Jonas - the name sounded too much like Judas.<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 16:40:59</i><br /><hr />OH - MY - GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!
I know some of you said this will happend, but I just can't accept it!!
Bree, please!! Jonas can't be bad!!!! I mean, if he is that means that the order new all along that you were going to rescue Daniel and they let yoy do it anyway!!! WHY would they do that?!?!?! What better chance they had to get you?!?!? I mean, if they want you in they wouldn't let you out... Right?... Unless, of corse, they need you outside... they need you to do all this for some reason... Maybe you are doing exactly what they want you to do... 
I don't now what I'm saying anymore, just promise me that you think very well before doing something bad to Jonas... pleeeeeeease!!!<br /><i>by eucebo on 2007-02-26 16:46:30</i><br /><hr />WOW! I sure hope the girl at 0:27 in the "Who Is That Girl?" video is Tachyon. Holy Maude! I mean, Oh dear!<br /><i>by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-26 16:46:39</i><br /><hr />best video ever.
so intense.
I loved when she said
"i was really clueless before, but that dumb girl.. died. the day that you killed her father."

I love this video.

Great Job on this one, Creators!


BUT i kinda hate the fact that Jonas is a bad guy. I liked him.<br /><i>by JaneyLane on 2007-02-26 16:47:13</i><br /><hr />ahh
finally a twist, even though it was pseudo obvious, i'll take it.

...maybe she'll torture the info out of jonas
 [this would be good tv]<br /><i>by jtriffo on 2007-02-26 16:50:03</i><br /><hr />The symbol Bree found is clearly different from the OpAphid symbol. Like #58, Moondoogle, said...Jonas is probably part of some organization, but not the Order. It's probably, like, the opposite of the Order, or something..


Anyway, this is lame....if Jonas does really turn out to be a bad guy, I'm going to be pissed. He was my main reason of keeping up with all of these videos. He made the plot exciting again when it was losing touch. And after all he's done for Bree and Daniel, there's no way he's bad. He wouldn't have been able to keep it hidden for that long.<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 16:53:44</i><br /><hr />I like feisty Bree! 
However I still think Jonas is a good guy!<br /><i>by DellaUK on 2007-02-26 16:54:42</i><br /><hr />i have no idea what's going on right now... i mean, i know that bree thinks jonas is "bad" and she's holding him and everything, but that's it.
i don't know what i believe.
but regardless of all that:
best video EVER.<br /><i>by TaylorTempesta on 2007-02-26 16:59:10</i><br /><hr />ITS ABOUT TIME!!!! *applauds* now apologize to Daniel and give him hugs.<br /><i>by vigideo on 2007-02-26 17:01:18</i><br /><hr />great vid - thank you creators!<br /><i>by apathy on 2007-02-26 17:01:21</i><br /><hr />I like #96's idea that Jonas could have that symbol because of his parents.

I think it's possible that he has been coerced into being Bree's keeper. It's probably crossed most people's minds from the beginning that Jonas's parents are "missing" because of the Order. He seems to have displayed too much genuine emotion to be completely fake. (Though, of course, if the actor who plays Jonas could do it, it stands to reason that Jonas could too.)

Would Daniel really plant the symbol? Would he have lied about how he and Jonas were cool again, only to try to screw him over? I don't think so. I think Daniel has had a serious enough experience with the Order not to mess around with that stuff.

On another note, it is more than a little frustrating that this discovery is made completely off camera. Is that to make us all really hungry for the next video, in the hopes that it will provide some context for this sudden accusation?


Some other comments:
#81 - Is Jonas so rich that he keeps a Xerox machine in his cabin in the woods?

#103 - I'm pretty sure Jonas can't be Brother. If Jonas is Brother, who was flying the helicopter when they rescued Daniel?<br /><i>by tealmtl on 2007-02-26 17:02:48</i><br /><hr />Next video:  Oh, and by the way ... when Tachyon was teaching me how to set traps she also taught me Kung-fu fighting and told me that Gemma is still alive... so when I see Gemma ...

Hiiaaaaaa-yah!

(please please please)

More seriously, I like the big twist of this video, though I think Bree may be wrong about Jonas ... it will be interesting to see how Daniel reacts to this...<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 17:04:13</i><br /><hr />hah i knew it, wow this is great, iam excited to see where this was going...<br /><i>by blondeambition on 2007-02-26 17:08:13</i><br /><hr />Yes! finally they say Jonas is bad.  Now I can go on with my life knowing my 6th sense works.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 17:09:38</i><br /><hr />I knew Jonas was bad!!! I've been saying it all along! I saw it(get it see it).<br /><i>by seeit on 2007-02-26 17:10:07</i><br /><hr />52: Movie reference... Dumb and Dumber ? ;)<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 17:12:45</i><br /><hr />oh nooo! i was hoping that jonas and bree would get together. they were so adorable together in "snow angels"<br /><i>by brownpurse on 2007-02-26 17:12:53</i><br /><hr />man i liked jonas<br /><i>by Joli on 2007-02-26 17:14:45</i><br /><hr />meeeeep.

i was really hoping jonas wouldn't be in on it.
i still have that hope.
maybe there is a misunderstanding
or he is being set up as well.
answers please!

this video made me like bree a little bit more again.
i'm glad she's questioning things and has a little spirit back.<br /><i>by starlightandpoison on 2007-02-26 17:15:36</i><br /><hr />whatever happened to the idea of them being siblings...maybe his family was part of the order before they died it doesn't necessarily mean that he is part of the now<br /><i>by Joli on 2007-02-26 17:17:06</i><br /><hr />if jonas were in the order, he wouldn't have punched one of his own cult members, would he? i'm really hoping this is a misunderstanding, or maybe it's a warning from the order that they've been to the house and know where they are<br /><i>by brownpurse on 2007-02-26 17:18:39</i><br /><hr />Okay, so according to this video, Jonas is a bad guy who has been pretending to be a good guy for a long time ... including the preparation for the rescue of Daniel ... which secretly involved Tachyon ... which would mean that the Order knew she was involved all along ... the rescue itself was a fake ... all to what?  gain Bree's confidence in Jonas perhaps? hmmmmm

or MAYBE Jonas is a good guy who has confessed to Bree that the Order has something to hold against him (like his parents held hostage perhaps), and Bree is now pretending she thinks Jonas is a bad guy who has been pretending to be a good guy ... all to fool the Order into thinking Jonas is still working for them when he is really not. Anymore.

Yep, it's all coming together. hehehe<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 17:20:45</i><br /><hr />what was that anyway... a little peice of wood with sharpie on it?<br /><i>by Joli on 2007-02-26 17:20:51</i><br /><hr />FINALLY YOU SEE THAT HES EVIL!!! i sy that you stalk him and see what hes up to if he refuses to tell you (if you do so, videotape it so we can ALL see...)<br /><i>by ReputationForte on 2007-02-26 17:24:12</i><br /><hr />Joli, it was a Pez dispenser.
Apparently the Order is branching out to the candy market.
Operation: PEZ!<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 17:24:16</i><br /><hr />Oh.  But this does open up the door for Jonas escaping and for Jonas + Gemma hooking up in a bad guy duo... leading to the final knock-down drag out Kung-fu battle:

Tachyon, Bree, Daniel

vs. 

Lucy, Gemma, Jonas

losers do the Ceremony in their pajamas!<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 17:25:03</i><br /><hr />FIRST JONAS THROWS A CREAM PUFF PUNCH AT A OLD MAN AND HAS IT CAUGHT BY THE OLD MAN, NOW BREE IS HOLDING HIM HOSTAGE. JONAS MUST HAVE BEEN A PRETTY CRAPPY BOXER.<br /><i>by jackthedog on 2007-02-26 17:27:37</i><br /><hr />HOLY HOLY HOLY ES EYCH EYE TEE!!!!!<br /><i>by voyboy on 2007-02-26 17:28:53</i><br /><hr />moon: funny<br /><i>by Joli on 2007-02-26 17:30:10</i><br /><hr />anyone watched the new vid from train101? "Who is that girl?"  Interesting.........<br /><i>by theplotthickens on 2007-02-26 17:30:46</i><br /><hr />OK guys!!!

I want my cookie!!!

I guess the Deacons were right all along!!!!


I will take a bow....


meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!<br /><i>by rosieiswatching on 2007-02-26 17:32:00</i><br /><hr />WHAT PICTURE DID DANIAL DECODE?<br /><i>by jackthedog on 2007-02-26 17:35:32</i><br /><hr />115: Moondoogle mentioned that the little wooden thing Bree found could be a "mezuzah" ... I a wasn't familiar with that but found someting on wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezuzah

It mentions that these are used to mark doorposts on Jewish homes ... if the wooden thing Bree found is similar, it may be that some secret societies are using the symbols from the file Daniel cracked as a way to find each other ... kind of like secret Mason symbols, but specific to these groups.

Who's watching the Watchers?  Well, the other three groups maybe ... there could be some kind of balance between the four.  Maybe Bree is important to their rivalry somehow.<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 17:38:33</i><br /><hr />Y jho je buqlu qdt wuj fkbbut rqsa yd. Y mqi sedjqsjut ro jxu Iuhqfx jxqj co qiiyijqdsu yi ijybb duutut. 

Qtcyjjutbo, Y xqlu wylud qcfbu mqhdydwi qrekj Zedqi ruydw q Mqjsxuh. Cksx byau oek qhu, Y mqi fherqrbo mhedw. Rumqhu ev jxu wqcu EfQfxyt cqo ru fbqoydw xuhu, tylytu qdt sedgkuh. 

Y mqdj oek je adem oek qhu cyiiydw iecujxydw shyjysqb yd jxu fysjkhui. Jxuhu yi cksx cehu je jxuc jxqd cuuji jxu uou. Ixqhfud oekh lyiyed rbudt oekh uoui qdt oek mybb dejysu iecujxydw jxqj mybb huluqb cehu byui.<br /><i>by Deacons on 2007-02-26 17:42:14</i><br /><hr />I wonder that if when they figure out Tach's puzzle of the many symbols, if they also figure out that Jonas is not who they think he is right now.  

That Jonas is against the OpAphid part of the order, and really does have Bree's best interest at heart.

Wishful thinking?<br /><i>by rebecky27 on 2007-02-26 17:42:35</i><br /><hr />Deacons post!<br /><i>by Opladybug on 2007-02-26 17:46:50</i><br /><hr />150: (decode with Caesar shift, N = 10)

Deacons wrote:
--------------

I try to leave and get pulled back in. I was contacted by the Seraph that my assistance is still needed. 

Admittedly, I have given ample warnings about Jonas being a Watcher. Much like you are, I was probably wrong. Beware of the game OpAphid may be playing here, divide and conquer. 

I want you to know you are missing something critical in the pictures. There is much more to them than meets the eye. Sharpen your vision blend your eyes and you will notice something that will reveal more lies.<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 17:47:11</i><br /><hr />153: faster than Perky!

yesssssssssssssssssssssss<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 17:47:42</i><br /><hr />i got here when there were like 50 comments, i was so happy to be in the top 100, but alas my computer decided to freeze RIGHT THEN.

i refuse to believe that jonas is evil.

i just WONT STAND FOR IT.



uggggh.


ok.

so.

creators - - - - about that script.........:]<br /><i>by Grace on 2007-02-26 17:47:42</i><br /><hr />awesome deacons post...basically their trying to turn bree and daniel against jonas<br /><i>by Joli on 2007-02-26 17:48:30</i><br /><hr />Deacons post decoded.
I try to leave and get pulled back in. I was contacted by the Seraph that my assistance is still needed.

Admittedly, I have given ample warnings about Jonas being a Watcher. Much like you are, I was probably wrong. Beware of the game OpAphid may be playing here, divide and conquer.

I want you to know you are missing something critical in the pictures. There is much more to them than meets the eye. Sharpen your vision blend your eyes and you will notice something that will reveal more lies.<br /><i>by Opladybug on 2007-02-26 17:49:54</i><br /><hr />153-beat me to it!<br /><i>by Opladybug on 2007-02-26 17:51:56</i><br /><hr />either he is wiht the order or they have planted things to make him look like he is so you wont trust him.<br /><i>by peter on 2007-02-26 17:52:23</i><br /><hr />1OOTH VIDEO ANNIVERSARY OF BREE'S "LAST" VIDEO!!!<br /><i>by Grace on 2007-02-26 17:55:22</i><br /><hr />If the Deacons are that easy to decode, why do they even bother?
Seems like they're saying the same thing that everybody else is already saying...except they're being more 'cryptic' about it.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 17:55:51</i><br /><hr />Go back to the picture and sharpen and blend it with an editing tool. Maybe something will pop up? Or maybe that would do absolutely nothing....doesn't hurt to try.<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 17:57:05</i><br /><hr />i'm going to go out on a huge limb here and say...

Jonas is not evil.


--------------------------------------------------
http://milowent.blogspot.com
why jessica's bigger than lindsay lohan and more 
--------------------------------------------------<br /><i>by milowent on 2007-02-26 17:59:12</i><br /><hr />nicolex3sue, over the past two days I've sharpened the images, layered the images atop each other, inverted the images, and all kinds of evil manipulations.
 Now, I am one to believe in things that aren't real, and see things where they aren't, but I'll be damned if I can see anything 'more' to Tach's images.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 18:00:29</i><br /><hr />the deacons are saying that they were wrong about jonas being part of the order..."just like you are" is speaking directly to bree<br /><i>by becky on 2007-02-26 18:00:35</i><br /><hr />So it's true, there is a possibility Jonas isn't bad.  But I still want him to be. he's too creepy

I tried doing the magic eye thing on the picture...but it hasn't worked for me. Anyone else try?<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 18:09:25</i><br /><hr />Moondoogle, I figured people had already done all osrts of things to that picture, but I dunno. Maybe there is something someone hasn't caught yet...?<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 18:09:44</i><br /><hr />the deacons poster is or is not legit is a zero sum game.  i mean seriously what they are saying will end up coming true it always seems to go that way regardless if they are real or not.  maybe they have the script being sent to them ahead of time by a friend and she/he is leaking information as they get it. dont forget they said that jonas was a watcher from the begining and now are going the other way with it maybe they know what they are told by whoever like a nikki bower??<br /><i>by ladyofthelake on 2007-02-26 18:10:02</i><br /><hr />Well, if there is something, it certainly isn't something I've caught yet.
Of course, any unknown symbol is gonna carry a hidden meaning or two. I don't think the trick is in studying the images themselves more than it is understanding what the symbols stand for and how they relate to each other in that context.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 18:12:26</i><br /><hr />Maybe Nikki B has been doing research on Jonas and his family, and she'll be able to clear him or confirm Bree's suspisions.

I'm still hoping Jonas is a good guy!<br /><i>by AlliBean on 2007-02-26 18:13:13</i><br /><hr />So the Deacons have been claiming that Jonas is Watcher, but now that Bree found the symbol they've changed their mind?  Either they know what the symbol means or they are just banking on the fact that she's jumped to the wrong conclusion.<br /><i>by AlliBean on 2007-02-26 18:16:54</i><br /><hr />whoever they are and whether they know what they're on about aside, it sounds like they're saying it's a magic eye pic (y'know, like in mallrats - 'it's not a scooner, it's a sailboat')<br /><i>by logana on 2007-02-26 18:18:29</i><br /><hr />I really think that the best thing for the order to do (from their view point) is to try and break up the "team" if no one trusts eachother they're bound to make stupid mistakes...
that's just what i think...
am i crazy or do i have a point?
write back on here w/ what you think.<br /><i>by coturrotw on 2007-02-26 18:22:32</i><br /><hr />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereograms<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-26 18:23:08</i><br /><hr />ok..so wat is she saying? is she gonna tourture jonas or something?<br /><i>by jaymcbang on 2007-02-26 18:23:41</i><br /><hr /># 172 
--AWESOME movie reference logana!!!<br /><i>by coturrotw on 2007-02-26 18:23:54</i><br /><hr />Is anyone here good a the Magic Eye images?

I'm not kidding.  I almost see it in the pictures from tachy's file. I just can't seem to lock my eyes on it!<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 18:26:37</i><br /><hr />You guys do know that the deacons poster is most likely fan fic and he or she can say whatever they want about anything. but it wont tie into the series unless its coming from an offical character. 

Most of you have no proof that the deacon poster is real or not. 

And if what the deacons poster is saying is true. 
1. Hes in contact with the creators
2. Hes finding his own ways of getting the information of the show. I.E leaking information.<br /><i>by michiev on 2007-02-26 18:26:47</i><br /><hr />heh, you gotta love the kevin smith films :)<br /><i>by logana on 2007-02-26 18:27:14</i><br /><hr />174

lol yeah exactly what you said! I just didn't know the real name of it.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 18:27:42</i><br /><hr />Logana
--they're the only films worth watching!!
haha<br /><i>by coturrotw on 2007-02-26 18:28:38</i><br /><hr />aah I got in but can't tell what the picture is! Amalgamation looks like a rooster and the Ligatures like a bunny lol but I doubt that's what it is.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 18:29:44</i><br /><hr />#171 Or they jumped to the wrong conclusion themselves.
The symbol Bree is holding isn't a watcher's symbol. It's similar, but different.
 The Deacons have claimed that Jonas was a watcher, and now, after this video, along with a few post noting the differences in the symbols, they aren't so sure.
 Personally, I don't think the Deacon's predictions are anything more than educated guesses. 
They do study the videos though. I'll give 'em that...<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 18:30:16</i><br /><hr />He may not be revealing everything he knows, but I doubt Jonas is the bad guy. He has risked his neck a few times in the past video's for Daniel and Bree. Bree states, "Everything he has said has been a lie," or something like that. That's a rather strong claim to make. We shall see. It would be funny if the next video from Jonas was titled, "I am Evil, but I have Feeling Too!" lol.<br /><i>by The Great Silence on 2007-02-26 18:34:18</i><br /><hr />i loved mallrats logana! that whole thing with the fatguy and the pic was wonderful.<br /><i>by ladyofthelake on 2007-02-26 18:35:10</i><br /><hr />We need an NBR video<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-26 18:37:08</i><br /><hr />#183- yeah, I don't give much credibility to the Deacons- never really cared much whether they are canon or not- it just makes them seem less likely to be canon when they change their assertions based on new evidence that we all can see (implying they don't have inside info about Jonas)<br /><i>by AlliBean on 2007-02-26 18:37:26</i><br /><hr />Awesome, Bree!  I *knew* jonas was no good!<br /><i>by jerik on 2007-02-26 18:39:46</i><br /><hr />I don't think they went more than 3 seconds without a cut. Nontheless, this video did get to me. But Bree's mad at Jonas for not telling her everything? How does she think Daniel feels?<br /><i>by Determination on 2007-02-26 18:41:01</i><br /><hr />Ok, it's definately a stereogram/magic eye thing.  But once I get in I can't tell what I see.

When I look at these I'm usually like 

BK: 'oh I see it. It's a flower!' 

some guy: 'no miss bk that's a dinosaur'<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 18:42:39</i><br /><hr />Well at least you're opening your eyes a bit. You finally don't sound like a whining baby. Even if Jonas isn't really trying to do anything to you or anything else wrong, its about time you start looking around you... but I say its also time to open up to Daniel and let him know what you know. Things are so much easier when you work together!<br /><i>by Momo on 2007-02-26 18:42:59</i><br /><hr />I'm still 100% convinced for all the reasons given in the comments on previous videos that the Marcus posts aren't canon. I mean, the Deacons posts.<br /><i>by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-02-26 18:45:16</i><br /><hr />Killed "our" father???<br /><i>by Momo on 2007-02-26 18:46:14</i><br /><hr />#193 no, killed her father<br /><i>by Determination on 2007-02-26 18:47:37</i><br /><hr />Go Bree!!! :) I think Jonas has some explaing to do :P<br /><i>by littlesammy123 on 2007-02-26 18:48:27</i><br /><hr />alright, I've decided that Amalgamation is really a picture of Owen and Ligatures is a picture of P.Monkey.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 18:49:05</i><br /><hr />Hola lonelycrackers.<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 18:53:05</i><br /><hr />woah the trainer video is awesome. Some clips repeat a lot but other than that great job!<br /><i>by Determination on 2007-02-26 18:53:35</i><br /><hr />Hi Jeep! 

I am not here by the way.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 18:54:14</i><br /><hr />I thought I saw blackitty here but I must have been mistaken because she's not here.<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 18:57:38</i><br /><hr />Blackkitty is here. You just have to cross your eyes and stare a really long time before you can see her.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 19:00:07</i><br /><hr />BlackKitty, I happen to be excellent at Magic Eye pictures. Send me the links and I'll tell you if I see anything...<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 19:01:48</i><br /><hr />yeah Jeep...apparently blackitty's been having a good time tonight staring at those pictures from Tachy to see if she can see what's "in" them.  But she seems to have gotten a bad headache and gave up.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 19:02:20</i><br /><hr />Which pics from Tach?  I've never been good at seeing them but I'd like to try.<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 19:03:15</i><br /><hr />202

Half way through the article, you see both pictures and you can click on them to make them bigger.

http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Semiotics<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 19:03:32</i><br /><hr />Does this have to do with the Bruce Springsteen lyrics I just found by decoding the message on Tach's youtube page?<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 19:06:07</i><br /><hr />204

I can definitely see the 3D aspect but...since it's probably in some weird language or imagery that I can't decode...so all I see are bunnies and roosters.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 19:06:23</i><br /><hr />Jeep,

I don't know.  A message came with the pictures. It's towards the bottom of the link I posted.  It probably has some significance lol.  I don't know about Bruce Springsteen though. hmmm lol<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 19:07:51</i><br /><hr />so i used the irfanview from lgpedia. there may be something to this picture thing.  i sharped the image and then negative'd it and you can really see something in the lower right hand corner it seems like someone standing there.  if you could some how remove the gold colors maybe you could see it.  it looks like a ghost image kinda.<br /><i>by ladyofthelake on 2007-02-26 19:08:03</i><br /><hr />Unfortunately, nothing seems to be there. At least, not with the "magic eye picture" theory. I tried every technique I know to bring out the 3D images, but nothing worked.<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 19:10:01</i><br /><hr />http://humboldt.craigslist.org/y/mis/285089942.html

I was directed to this page when I decoded the text on Tach's youtube page.<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 19:10:20</i><br /><hr />209. In which one? Ligatures?<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 19:10:22</i><br /><hr />She last logged in 4 hours ago.  This was a message to Brother.<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 19:12:25</i><br /><hr />210

I could just be imagining things lol.

Tachy probably put that on there for people like me who just want to look at pretty things like bunnies!<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 19:13:00</i><br /><hr />Hot Damn... Good twist Creators. You lulled us into a false sense of security with jonas and then...
BAMM!

although I'm still leaning on the side that jonas has no idea what the symbol is and he is innocent, it was his parents, like bree's, that were part of the order.

Maybee the two legged eye symbol represents a anti OpAphid sect or as close to a anti Opaphid sect there can be while following the same religion... 

For jonas to be ignorant, maybee his parents were big travelers and jonas was left home alone with his nanny alot. he just chooses not to remember the lonelyness .

(lonelygirl.. lonelyness... see what I did there :D... heh...ya...moving on)

I'm more interested in thewooden block with the symbol on it.

I doubt each sect would just carry cardboard boxes filled with these things... maybee its a sawed off piece from a much larger piece... or maybee jonas's parents werent part of the order at all.

Maybee they were investigating a rash of child abductions around the time bree was born and ended up digging too deeply into the orders buisness.

Nikki B.'s forerunners perhaps, reporters ( superman anyone?), or maybee they were wealthy FBI agents, or CIA, or some such secret agency. They can be rich and have a goverment salary. That makes Jonas... uber RICH! 

Jonas: My parents were Spys! This explains the hidden cameras in my room...

Tachyon: Yaaahh... your parents did it...Look over there(quickly hides mini wireless camera about the room)

Quazi<br /><i>by Quazi on 2007-02-26 19:13:12</i><br /><hr />oh no Jonas I loved you!!!!<br /><i>by queensage on 2007-02-26 19:13:23</i><br /><hr />Ooh Plot Twist! Big big plot twist!


To answer the question: generally speaking Bree, I think you have been pretty stupid and oblivious to the truth most of the time.

Perhaps you've fianlly come to your senses and realized who you can really trust.

Now to contradict what I just said: I don't think Jonas is a bad guy. There was a time when he was first introduced that I agreed with the general speculation that Jonas' whole "mysterious" quality was just plain shady. But I have come to like Jonas. I know most typical evil-doers slay their victims with their beauty and charm. But I honestly believe Jonas isn't one of them.

I think maybe, if anything the wactchers are the ones who've been protecting Bree from the "bad guys." 

Even if Jonas is a watcher, I would still trust him.

But then again, my gullibility has been pointed out to me on several occasions.

Byes,

Amanda (Copperboom)<br /><i>by copperboom on 2007-02-26 19:13:51</i><br /><hr />213

what was a message to brother? the lyrics?<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 19:14:36</i><br /><hr />haha this is my dream next video. it won't happen, but still....



---------------------------------------------------------
*we are in a very, very dark room. we see a part of bree's face as she whispers very fast and softly. she is also crying.*
BREE: okay, so.
*wipes away tear briefly* it turns out *sniff* jonas was part of the order. and *tiny sob* when he found out that *huff-puff* we knew, he *cut to new shot becase lg15 just does that* contacted lucy and the deacons. they have us now and *sob* i'm scared. *she whispers this like some horror-movie child*
DANIEL: *softly, off camera* bree? are you filming*
BREE: *turns to look at daniel. now all we see is some hair.* what?
DANIEL: look at this
*bree turns the camera to a shady figure (daniel) a few feet away. he is pointing to a tiny piece of paper in the wall*
BREE: oh, my god. is that -
DANIEL: i don't know
*daniel rips it out of the wall. he opens it to find a series of letters and numbers, which are all in mirror*
BREE: what -
*loud bang. light floods the room* bree turns to face lucy, but because bree almost drops the camera all we see is lucy's feet*
LUCY: give me the camera
BREE: *starts to hand it over*
DANIEL: no! *jumps and grabs the camera*
*loud bang as the door closes. blackness. all we hear is bree panting in fear. then all of a sudden there is a loud CRACK and we hear a woman's scream. the camera drops to the ground and we hear:*
DANIEL: bree! BREE! RUN!
*we see the door open and light floods the room. bree grabs the camera and for a split second we can see lucy lying on the floor, clutching her face. there is a blurry, shaky shot of daniel grabbing bree's hand and pulling her out of the room. the video does one of those wash-out-in-a-flood-of-light things while they run out the door*
---------------------------------------------------------<br /><i>by Grace on 2007-02-26 19:16:09</i><br /><hr />209, I saw something there, too. Though, I didn't edit anything to see it. I just blew it off because I figured it was nothing.<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 19:16:44</i><br /><hr />Yeah ... the youtube profile is addressed as a letter to Brother.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Tachyon<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 19:16:46</i><br /><hr />In the source of the link Tachy gave there are a bunch of hex codes for the color of text.
Tran late that from hex and you get a bunch of numbers substitute the numbers for letters of the alphabet and you get.

I hope you re enjoying this Brian Wilson phase of yours. Just promise me that you ll trim the beard before it gets all Rick Rubin crazy. By the way, will mom and dad even let you back in the house yet? My own feelings of guilt have me avoiding them for the time being. It was good to see you again two weeks ago but who would ve thought it d be under those circumstances? I ll be curious to see if the teen angst adventure gang can come up with anything else on those other symbols once they crack the code. I know we thought there was a pi or an omicron in two of them but that doesn t add up with the other stuff I ve found. I m running the variations still but I can t do much research right now. I should probably lay low for a few days. I think I may have been spotted and I m really not in the mood for a run in with that bitch or her minions right now.<br /><i>by Opladybug on 2007-02-26 19:17:08</i><br /><hr />backittiy, it is in ligatures. it lookes like a statue of some sort. possibly with wings, maybe it's a large chair/throne the person is sitting in, but ti's definitely a statue<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 19:17:56</i><br /><hr />WOW!!! go bree! :D

too bad though, jonas was cool. i wonder how she's "keeping him." is he a prisoner in his own house?

and then why did gemma tell bree not to trust jonas?<br /><i>by katie on 2007-02-26 19:18:19</i><br /><hr />excuse me, blackitty*** =]<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 19:18:23</i><br /><hr />Whoa, now that's one way to make fans feel guilty...

Lo siento Bree, I hope you get every fact out of him.

"That dumb girl... DIED"   *shivers*<br /><i>by truncatedslinky on 2007-02-26 19:19:57</i><br /><hr />Or maybe....just maybe, I'm seeing things. &gt;.<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 19:20:31</i><br /><hr />I agree, you guys, something doesn't add up. Jonas is totally hiding something, don't get me wrong, but he's not behaving the way the rest of the watchers and the order are. And since Tachyon knows as much as she does, if he were evil she'd have launched Jonas out of the helicopter faster than you can say "noooooooooooooooooooo" (that's the sound of Jonas' voice trailing off as he plummets to Earth). 

Clearly, there's more than meets the eye. His use of the cellphone when repeatedly told by Bree and Daniel not to use it, the whole 'orphan bond' thing, his piles of money.... He's hiding something and he knows much more than he's saying, but I really don't think he's evil. If he were, Bree would have been baked Brie in no time.

If only we could figure out what the difference between the symbols meant, we'd know if Jonas is good or bad. I really believe that the proof is in the pudding (or at least in Tachyon's files).<br /><i>by vanjula on 2007-02-26 19:20:50</i><br /><hr />wooh go bree! i was becoming verrry suspicious of jonas. now bree has the control. NEW VIDEO PLEASE!<br /><i>by jennamarie xo on 2007-02-26 19:21:26</i><br /><hr />222 - Cool, thanx OpLadyBug<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 19:22:30</i><br /><hr />FIRST!1!!!!!!!!1!!!!!

Meep Meep Meep!

I have been noticing how Bree has been more into finding out information and such. I do belive that Jonas is still clueless, as it could have been his Parents who were in the Order. Or even like Bree said, all apart of it keeping Bree in a trap! (Could also explain the lame ass punch Jonas did to the Watcher) ... Humm... Time to continue playing "Dumb Bree" while tricking them with "Smart Bree"<br /><i>by Aidan on 2007-02-26 19:22:43</i><br /><hr />Bree (to jonas): You killed my father
Jonas: No Bree, I am you father.<br /><i>by Determination on 2007-02-26 19:25:17</i><br /><hr />shades of gray shiver and shout across the blasted sands, while little by little i come to realize the importance of questions.

silence is blessed, yet consciousness requires we ask before taking for granted our real silence within.

a simple question asked can fill the gaps, though gaps we want when seeking the true quiet of heaven, and the answer will always be, at the bottom of the matter, that the honest truth is love is what we are all made of.<br /><i>by sroske on 2007-02-26 19:26:35</i><br /><hr />OMG I JUST HAD A STUNNING REVELATION!!!!!!!!!!!


MIRA!!!

isnt it possible..THAT tachyon is a watcher? and watcher's aren't associated with the order at all?



well the thing that would refute that si that all of opaphid's vids have that symbol...so nevermind but i'm still posting cause it would have been a great twist..darn my illogical reasoning=[<br /><i>by Madey on 2007-02-26 19:31:42</i><br /><hr />Any luck with the pictures of blackitty or still bunnies and roosters?<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 19:32:44</i><br /><hr />Jeep, I do see 3D images. I might be the only one but I see them darn it! lol but no, just blobs and bunnies and roosters.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-26 19:35:47</i><br /><hr />HAH!  Bree should have listened to Daniel from STEP ONE about Jonas eh???  SNAP!<br /><i>by Morgan on 2007-02-26 19:39:55</i><br /><hr />Have you been studying bunnies and roosters?  Could this maybe explain the images? (hehe)<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 19:40:09</i><br /><hr />I don't think Jonas is evil. I mean, he can't be... right? He was the greatest character! He was light-hearted and FUN and they needed that!<br /><i>by vegetarianham on 2007-02-26 19:41:13</i><br /><hr />ok on the whole watcheer are actually good guys subject it knd of makes sense because gemma who was on the order's side was all watch out for the watchers telling bre and daniel to run away from them but then i have been a skeptic of jonas for along time he is just to convienet. For example, he has a huge empty hous and no parents that doesn't happen anyone heard of foster care or gardians plus he also conviently has a cabin the woods they can stay in aswell, and i don't know if this has to do with hime being bad or just that hwe likes bree but maybe he didn't take beast on the check around the perimiter of the house excursion because he thought he would find something that Bree would be not to dumb but to trusting to find. My thrid theory is and it is kinda far fetched that jonas is a watcher that fell in love with bree and that is why he hasn't turned her into the order.
P.S. he did use his cell phone on the road trip definient sign that he was up to something.  Anyway sorry about the spelling errors I am kind of in a rush but I had to put that out there thanks!!<br /><i>by Baileyrey on 2007-02-26 19:44:43</i><br /><hr />this must be in pacific time....i'm gonna head off to bed y'all. it's about 10:00 here on the east coast. GOODNIGHT!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by nicolex3sue on 2007-02-26 19:48:54</i><br /><hr />Oh... I just rewatched the vid... odd theory here but bear with me.

okay... most of us would agree that before this vid and based on past vids, Bree has a thing for jonas. (I'm going to assume you all obediantly nodded your heads and said right)

in this vid... I mistook bree for being resoluteley keeping her chin up in response to this latest betrayal... (maybee)... but I'm begining to believe that just maybee she has some emotional termoil going on that shes tryign to hide.

She bonded and formed a connection with him (orphan bond sounds like a good way to put it) She found herself someone who might be able to understand her position in life, daniels home life is bad but not the same.

the way Jessica acted it seemed like she was trying to portray a person who was hurting but not willing to show their weakness to a enemy.

This might lead to a interesting interrogation where bree looses her cool and daniel might have to restrain her as jonas keeps denying his association with the order.

This all bodes well for the bree jonas ship. Some angst is okay as long as its done realisticly, and in moderation. In the end this might be what forces jonas to admit his feelings to bree... although unlikely, as I assume bree wont be dating anyone for a bit. maybee he just looks really really hurt at the accusation.


Anyway thems my theories..

Quazi<br /><i>by Quazi on 2007-02-26 19:51:16</i><br /><hr />I fucking knew it from the beginning. I knew it so hard.

The new Bree is awesome. She kicks so much ass and takes so many names now.<br /><i>by LemonOfPink on 2007-02-26 19:54:20</i><br /><hr />There should have been a video of the actual Jonas "takedown."<br /><i>by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-26 20:00:57</i><br /><hr />#242- I was thinking something along those lines. Don't know if you kept up with the ARG stuff, but when tachyon sent that letter that they decoded that was a love letter between brother and gemma, a light bulb went off tonight when I watch this video thinking back to that letter...what if it has something to do with it?<br /><i>by dwljk on 2007-02-26 20:02:54</i><br /><hr />So tachy put the clue in the car so they would realize what's going on, hoping Bree would find the picture in Jonas' cabin...too simple I say.<br /><i>by dwljk on 2007-02-26 20:10:07</i><br /><hr />Jonas is very valuable, expect trouble.<br /><i>by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-26 20:10:32</i><br /><hr />and how can you hold captive someone who is already being held captive?<br /><i>by dwljk on 2007-02-26 20:11:53</i><br /><hr />Ok, I have a theory on the pictures.  I layered them and made them transparent and still didn't see anything new.  Then I had an idea.

What if it's a clue to lineage? In one picture, the Mu and the Theta combined to make the OpAphid symbol. Two combined to make one.  This picture may just be a key for solving the other one.

In the other picture, there is the 3 legged OpAphid symbol and the 2 legged 'other' symbol that Bree found.  What if the symbol we know as OpAphid refers to a man (there is a faint picture of a man's face behind it) and the two legged symbol is a woman (there is a faint picture of a woman or girl in a dress behind it). No anatomy jokes please...

Ok, stay with me now....What if the 'man' symbol and the 'woman' symbol combine ... could they have offspring representing the other two symbols?<br /><i>by hwarner94 on 2007-02-26 20:16:27</i><br /><hr />249 - interesting theory<br /><i>by JeepFanatic on 2007-02-26 20:22:05</i><br /><hr />Bree, check his cellphone. Daniel, check his pockets and the car.<br /><i>by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-26 20:25:44</i><br /><hr />The Deacons post started me thinking.

"I want you to know you are missing something critical in the pictures. There is much more to them than meets the eye. Sharpen your vision blend your eyes and you will notice something that will reveal more lies."

Sharpen your vision may mean to notice both the man and woman in the background (at first I only saw the man).  "Blend your eyes" may mean a literal 'blending' of the male and female.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm.......<br /><i>by hwarner94 on 2007-02-26 20:28:18</i><br /><hr />I can just imagine the next video...

Jonas all tied up to a chair as Bree's prisoner... (Is it just me or is that hot...lol)<br /><i>by haze_9 on 2007-02-26 20:30:27</i><br /><hr />Bree you might be on to somthing there but Jonas i dont know about you because i saw you in an OpAphid vid i beleive except you are wearing sunglasses and a fleece hat thats striped and you has a beard just like the one in the vid i dont trust you at all!!<br /><i>by Beenn243 on 2007-02-26 20:32:41</i><br /><hr />The Tachyon pics do not look like 'magic eye' pictures to me ... usually those 3D stereogram pictures have a repeating pattern to them.

See this site for examples: www.magiceye.com

That does not mean that there is not something hidden in the pictures - there are definitely faint images of robes/person on the right side, etc. ... but maybe we need more images to combine with these to pull out the hidden info, or a separate file showing the layers that went into them.<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 20:37:19</i><br /><hr />ooooooooh!

I'm interested again!

I'm a little sad that Jonas ended up being one of them. I knew it was a possibility, but I expected he was sincere...I guessed wrong.

Anyway, I'm not very excited to see where this goes.<br /><i>by loser078 on 2007-02-26 20:38:01</i><br /><hr />I don't think we should jump to conclusions about Jonas.  Really, we can't trust anyone.  However, I think there is more too this than anyone knows.<br /><i>by KelQuelle on 2007-02-26 20:43:22</i><br /><hr />"that dumb girl died the day her father did" wow bree thats deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.<br /><i>by popcorn on 2007-02-26 20:49:16</i><br /><hr />QtheC, I took another look at the person in the robes.  I turned the pic 180 and sharpened it A LOT (this was how I saw a better view of the man).  It is definitely a woman.  When the picture is turned around, she is looking up and to the right.  There is also a very faint theta on top of her picture.

I really think I'm on to something with the lineage idea, but my brain is starting to hurt.  Anyone else want to take a stab at it?<br /><i>by hwarner94 on 2007-02-26 20:49:25</i><br /><hr />221: Okay, the message (updated 5 hours ago) on Tachyon's YouTube channel page 
www.youtube.com/profile?user=Tachyon

aHR0cDovL2VzdHJhZGlvbC5yZWRpcm VjdG1lLm5ldC8=

decodes to to a URL which redirects to:
humboldt.craigslist.org/y/mis/285089942.html

(note the purple peace sign, lol) ... here are the contents:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
humbolt craigslist &gt; missed connections &gt; A missive...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reply to: pers-285089942@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-26, 2:11PM PST



I get up in the evening, and I ain't got nothing to say
I come home in the morning, I go to bed feeling the same way


I ain't nothing but tired, I'm just tired and bored with myself
Hey there baby, I could use just a little help


You can't start a fire, you can't start a fire without a spark
This gun's for hire even if we're just dancing in the dark


Message keeps getting clearer, radio's on and I'm moving round the place
I check my look in the mirror, I wanna change my clothes my hair my face
Man I ain't getting nowhere just sitting in a dump like this
There's something happening somewhere, baby I just know that there is


You can't start a fire, you can't start a fire without a spark
This guns for hire even if we're just dancing in the dark


You sit around getting older, there's a joke here somewhere and it's on me
I'll shake this world off my shoulders, come baby this laughs on me


Stay on the streets of this town and they'll be carving you up alright
They say you got to stay hungry. Hey baby, I'm just about starving tonight
I'm dying for some action. I'm sick of sitting round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction, come on now baby give me just one look


You can't start a fire sitting 'round crying over a broken heart
This gun's for hire even if we're just dancing in the dark
You can't start a fire worrying about your little world falling apart
This gun's for hire even if we're just dancing in the dark



  
  




it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

PostingID: 285089942<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 20:51:24</i><br /><hr />i apologize before my actions... 

Kinky.  (yea. sorry.)
Bree your hair looks marvelous in this video
...i want to know what you're doing to jonas :)<br /><i>by bleedingtears96 on 2007-02-26 20:51:56</i><br /><hr />well,
 this
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 beastie
 didnt
 it?
 could
 it
 be 
 possible
 that 
 danny-boy
 planted
 the
 order
 picture???????
 hmmmmmmm
 the
 plot
 thickens
 we've 
 got
 you
 figured
 out.
 now 
 don't
 we?!?!?!?!?!?!?!<br /><i>by popcorn on 2007-02-26 20:54:47</i><br /><hr />is it just me or does bree have a purple glow! could it be guilt??? IS BREE A MEMBER OF THE ORDER???????????????????? uh......sorry........got ahead of myself<br /><i>by popcorn on 2007-02-26 20:57:14</i><br /><hr />Did anyone ever find the drop that the Grigori left?  I think it was in Palm Springs a few videos back.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2007-02-26 20:58:02</i><br /><hr />any one else bored on the computer?? if so, write me a note. gracias<br /><i>by popcorn on 2007-02-26 21:01:40</i><br /><hr />260 - The word 'man' is missing in the third line.  It should be 'I ain't nothing but tired, man I'm just tired and bored wiht myself'.

I compared the craigslist lyrics with 4 different lyrics pages and the 'man' is definitely missing.  As far as I can tell, it's the only word missing - everything else is right.

Now, is it a clue, or just a typo?<br /><i>by hwarner94 on 2007-02-26 21:02:41</i><br /><hr />no!!!!!!!!!!!!!JONAS DOES NOT SUCK!<br /><i>by popcorn on 2007-02-26 21:03:01</i><br /><hr />This is bad.  What if the picture were planted?  Poor Jonas!  I refuse to believe it.  If Jonas really isn't in The Order he will feel destroyed by Bree's suspicion of him.<br /><i>by sissiechris on 2007-02-26 21:04:46</i><br /><hr />http://milowent.blogspot.com/2007/02/why-jessica-rose-is-bigger-star-than.html<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2007-02-26 21:06:09</i><br /><hr />OK, my post should have said 'with' not 'wiht'.  I think I'm getting tired.<br /><i>by hwarner94 on 2007-02-26 21:06:58</i><br /><hr />266: I also compared the lyrics and found these differences:

missing "Man"
missing "I'm"
missing "on"
"give me" changed to "gimme"

I think this was a good idea, but probably nothing.  The correct approach might be to send a message to the email address given in the posting ... ARG folks might have other ideas ... I have not been following all that ARG/Tachyon stuff in detail.<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 21:10:17</i><br /><hr />One thing interesting about this medium for presenting a story is that we only know what we "see" in the videos ... and that is subject to lying by the characters and by editing by whoever is presenting the video to us... makes for some interesting storytelling limitations/options.<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 21:11:54</i><br /><hr />I haven't been following it that closely either.

Our friends across the pond should be waking up in a few hours, maybe they'll have some ideas.<br /><i>by hwarner94 on 2007-02-26 21:14:11</i><br /><hr />Ok wow this is a twist on things just when i put my suspicions 2 rest about him  boom. wow either bree has gone physco and the order brainwashed her while she was went out alone or we have been missing somthing. yeah and i have thought that is that had happend y didn't they just take her to or maybe now they r just after jonas i have a feeling he has some expierence with the order but not as an agent.<br /><i>by JennGirl on 2007-02-26 21:15:02</i><br /><hr />ohh man i knew jonas was something........i still think they are brother and sister.

 holy jonas batman<br /><i>by bethstar88 on 2007-02-26 21:20:58</i><br /><hr />wouldnt it be freaky if jonas' parents were bree biological parents.<br /><i>by JennGirl on 2007-02-26 21:23:15</i><br /><hr />KILL HIM BREE!!! YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO!!!<br /><i>by Mengele on 2007-02-26 21:32:19</i><br /><hr />pssh. fine. dont read my new, creepy, its-never-going-to-happen-stop-dreaming-grace scripto thing about lucy getting knocked out. I see how it is<br /><i>by Grace on 2007-02-26 21:34:30</i><br /><hr />um. no its not deep number 258. its logical. idiot. and who ever said jonas was bad? if he were he coulda been kidnapped bree. this is so dumb. poor jonas. locked up fer no reason.<br /><i>by here4laffs on 2007-02-26 21:36:14</i><br /><hr />Bree's description of science kind of reminded me of the OPAPHID acronym she memorized as a kid, ... makes me wonder if anything is hiding in the things her father "used to tell her."

The part about beliefs could be a hint about the images in Daniel's files?


----- some of Bree's words -----

My father used to tell me that

a science is something that can be explained
there's a logic and consistency, method, steps, formulas, and results

LCMSFR

...
but history is full of things that we can't explain or even understand really
but we know that they happened

...
our beliefs were how we made sense of the unknown, and
our faith in something greater is what allowed us a glimpse at
a much bigger picture, that we could never even understand in this lifetime

...
a person can become so comfortable with everything that they don't know
that they just stop asking questions altogether, even though they know
all the facts tell them that they should.

He told me not to make that mistake.<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 21:37:32</i><br /><hr />pretty fucking stupid<br /><i>by gracie on 2007-02-26 21:42:17</i><br /><hr />219: Nice scripting Grace ...

244: The Jonas "takedown" we missed...

Jonas: Bree, what are you doing wearing my red boxing gloves?  I thought we left those back at my batcave *charming smile*

Daniel: I think we have heard enough of your movie talk, boy wonder.

Jonas: What are you talking about, Daniel? I told you I'm not interested in wide-eyes here...

Daniel: Oh yeah? Well, speaking of eyes, what is THIS picture we found on your PEZ dispenser ... RIGHT OUTSIDE IN THE SNOW!?  Huh? Huh?

Jonas: PEZ ???

Bree: Yeah, bogus-bat-bum!  Take that! *body blow*
and that! *uppercut*

Jonas:  Arrggggg, you know I can't fight without my boxing gloves ... no fair!  *giggling*

Daniel: Um Bree, I think you might want to take off the big giant red pillow gloves...

Bree: Right.

to be continued<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 21:52:30</i><br /><hr />If you don't trust Jonas now, does that mean you question the intentions of Tachyon &amp; Brother?<br /><i>by S.A.R.A.H. on 2007-02-26 22:08:58</i><br /><hr />I think he is a rival of the watchers and actually was sent out to PROTECT bree... and Daniel who I actualy think is bad is trying to make her think Jonas is bad... but who knows... really the Evil ones are always better looking... :)<br /><i>by sandy79 on 2007-02-26 22:14:45</i><br /><hr />In the picture with the three symbols on it, in the lower right hand corner is the faint image of the two-legged eye. If you layer them on top of each other in photoshop, they line up perfectly. 

I still don't see the man and woman. Do you see their whole bodies or just their faces?<br /><i>by julesthe on 2007-02-26 22:29:27</i><br /><hr />WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH<br /><i>by cookiecake on 2007-02-26 22:32:36</i><br /><hr />Heeyy!  Didn't anyone notice OpLadybug's post #222??

Very good work OpLadybug!!<br /><i>by rebecky27 on 2007-02-26 22:38:23</i><br /><hr />jesus i leave for a few hours and i missed a totally important video I'M NEVER LEAVING MY HOUSE AGAIN! 


anyways  - sobs- jonas was so hott why does he have to be a bad guy? poo<br /><i>by DeathsLie on 2007-02-26 22:49:19</i><br /><hr />lol is the song credit perfect or what?<br /><i>by Determination on 2007-02-26 22:56:36</i><br /><hr />I knew bree would get it<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-26 22:58:57</i><br /><hr />Okay,

Maybe this seems stupid, but this video is totally out of whack - and by this video, I mean the color scheme.

It's all primary colors. And glaringly.

Bree's shirt is way red. Her blue jeans are BLUE. and the wall is waaay too yellow.

I don't know what it means exactly, but I think it means this video is not what it seems.

I think it either means she's faking this for some reason (perhaps something she saw on her walk made her want the Order to think she doesn't trust Jonas).

Or it's the way of making us see what Bree thinks is reality while reminding us that it's not. Bree thinks Jonas is evil, but we the viewers are reassured he is not.


Whatever it is, there is a definite message here. I'll have to think more about it when I have time. Which will be after 9:50 tomorrow.

Good luck to you all in the intervening time. Maybe they'll be nothing left for me to think about!! :)<br /><i>by physphile on 2007-02-26 23:27:45</i><br /><hr />Wow--this was cool! So much for the angst-filled B story. :-))

I've come to like Jonas more than Daniel, if only because Jonas is more laid back without seeming overly self-assured. Or maybe it's just that Daniel is a bit too tightly wound to be terribly interesting, even given the character's awkwardness.

In any case, one has to wonder if Bree's even noticed the difference between the Theta + Pi and Theta + Mu symbols. It's an extremely interesting twist, this discovery of Bree's--but it would sure be a shame if it turns out that she's gone on a witch hunt, putting Jonas in a situation where he's damned either way. If that's the case I'll be intrigued to see how Jonas responds, especially after all he's done for Bree and Daniel.

If it isn't the case that Jonas is being falsely accused, well...that could get verrrry interesting very quickly. Still, I find myself kinda pulling for Jonas to be vindicated.<br /><i>by BeornBear on 2007-02-26 23:29:05</i><br /><hr />btw, did anyone else see the Cheshire-cat looking thing in the lower left corner by the woman in Tachy's pic?<br /><i>by physphile on 2007-02-26 23:30:03</i><br /><hr />222, 287: rebecky27, thanks for pointing out Opladybug's post 222 ... 

Wow, great job finding and decoding Tachyon's message Opladybug ... her tone sounds a bit odd with the "teen angst adventure gang" ... I guess she must be older ... interesting reference to "that bitch and her minions" ... including Bree's mother perhaps?  

The message also seems to hint that the symbol for "Omicron + Pi" from the images in Daniel's file might be misidentified ... maybe it is made up of other characters or symbols or ???

Some of the Omicron shapes are more ovals, and some are more eye shaped perhaps?<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 23:33:42</i><br /><hr />I think I might have been confusing my Omicrons with my Thetas ... or my Phis ... I'm so confused... and maybe so is Tachyon (her prose leaves much confusion)<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-26 23:43:47</i><br /><hr />I often confuse my Omicrons with my Thetas.
I do know how I like my Pi though. With whipped cream.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-26 23:59:53</i><br /><hr />OH.
MY.
GOD.

I'm so sad!!!!!<br /><i>by Gidget on 2007-02-27 00:16:36</i><br /><hr />Morning Eurocrackers, night US-crackers!

I just logged in quickly to say that I'm on a business trip for the next days. So I'll not be able to comment or see any new vids. Hope, Jonas is still alive when I'm back... 

"Bree, is that a chainsaw there in your closet?"

(hehe, never trust girls you met on the internet, right WO? :D I love you!)<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-27 00:22:50</i><br /><hr />â€œMasonry is regarded as the direct descendant, or as a survival of the mysteries... of Isis and Osiris in Egypt...â€ 

- Robert Freke Gould, Past Senior Grand Deacon of the England Order of Masons

ok i had to post this i was doing a little surfing and found something that linked egyptian stuff deacons and freemasonry.

maybe the order are freemasons??<br /><i>by ladyofthelake on 2007-02-27 00:31:59</i><br /><hr />i found this too below

Aleister Crowley (12 October 1875 â€“ 1 December 1947), the most controversial occultist in modern times, dubbed the "wickedest man alive." There's much dispute as to his official status as a mason. The Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon, however, admits to his initiation into Craft Freemasonry in Anglo-Saxon Lodge No. 343. Crowley was also conferred the degrees 33Â°, 90Â° and 96Â° of the Antient and Primitive Rite of Masonry, Disciples of Memphis by John Yarker. Throughout his career, Crowley was as much influenced by Freemasons as he in turn had influence on them. 

Crowley has generated an intense following since his death. He has influenced countless disciples and gave birth to Satanism. Proclaiming to be the magus (and great Beast 666) of the "new age of Horus," he saw himself as the usher, or prophet, of a "new Aeon" of illuminism. 

Because of his total disregard for imposed social values and his legendary rebellion toward authority, Crowley became a hero for young people - especially rock musicians of the 60s and 70s and through to the Heavy Metal acts of the 80s and 90s.<br /><i>by ladyofthelake on 2007-02-27 00:36:41</i><br /><hr />Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas; 
magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo. 
iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna, 
iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto. 

Illuminati is Alfa
Illuminati is Omega
Illuminati is Mother
Illuminati is Father
Illuminati is All

  Annuit Coeptis
Novus Ordo Seclorum

Out of Many, One<br /><i>by Isledorn on 2007-02-27 00:57:53</i><br /><hr />Awesome!!!  Now lets see if Jonas gets killed too.  Funny how right when I warm up to these characters and start to trust them they turn out to be on the wrong side of the offense.  

This video seemed weird, different from the others.  Maybe a new camera, or they're starting to use studio lighting or something. Did anyone else notice that?<br /><i>by fantim on 2007-02-27 01:12:51</i><br /><hr />She finally gets it. Go Bree!

I think we've all fallen back in love with our heroine here.<br /><i>by ColorOfSakura on 2007-02-27 01:19:14</i><br /><hr />ok, pause.
this whole soapopera is getting a little confusing.
ok, its way passed confusing.
is danielle a good guy or a bad guy?
is jonas a good guy or a bad guy?
can you please explain?
thanx<br /><i>by a_linaaa on 2007-02-27 01:45:35</i><br /><hr />this is creepy<br /><i>by sd_mcbride on 2007-02-27 02:57:04</i><br /><hr />Putting the story aside, there's something very different about this video: The production quality.

Although it seems like the monologue flows naturally, it contains a huge number of edits -- almost once per second she changes positions slightly.  How many takes would this have required?  I doubt Jessica was forgetting her lines... is this an intentional filming technique to add realism?

The video quality is more granular, and the color balance is a little off. 

And we don't have the black bars at the bottom and top, which in the old days of PSW indicated it was made using Bree's camera, not Daniel's.  (Jonas' own camera doesn't have black bars either, so she might be "borrowing" it.  Might as well since he's currently "tied up" anyway.  LOL.)

I'm just sayin'.  This one looks as if it was done with a regular web cam.  Nothing wrong with that, but it's noticable and it could mean something.<br /><i>by Paulo on 2007-02-27 02:57:56</i><br /><hr />LG15 TODAY

http://lg15today.blogspot.com/<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2007-02-27 04:00:08</i><br /><hr />BOO!

ok guys, i just saw the video again. i was slightly drunk when i watched it last night.

and...oh my god!!

this whole split in the trio is scary, ive become adjusted to it. now im going to read most of the comments

MEEP

xoxoxox<br /><i>by sarahboo on 2007-02-27 04:00:22</i><br /><hr />I still like the idea that the two legged symbol, being different to the three legged watcher symbol means that Jonas is part of the anti-order...<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 04:10:51</i><br /><hr />And if Gemma is a bad guy and said to stay away from Jonas then surely that means he's a good guy? Sorry - this has been bugging me for ages....<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 04:15:03</i><br /><hr />What the hell does meep mean ?

And I thought Jonas was  crooked ..but now I am not sure.....The beast may be working with  the order now...things has not been the same  sense he was taken<br /><i>by thenamejohn on 2007-02-27 04:16:44</i><br /><hr />thenamejohn: meep can mean whatever you want it to mean! (I personally like to use it to replace swears) Its a phrase fans came up with to vent their frustrations whilst awaiting a new vlog!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 04:21:24</i><br /><hr />Guys... is it me or do you notice something with the window? It was creepy.<br /><i>by ladysolitary85 on 2007-02-27 04:41:52</i><br /><hr />could that symbol maybe the Theta + Amenta? You'll see it here: http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptsymbols.html it symbolises the "Underworld". So those two together would definatly be seen as a death threat. Where did Bree find that symbol? Could the order have killed Jonas's parents?<br /><i>by KalaSA on 2007-02-27 05:28:21</i><br /><hr />ladysolitary85..cant see anything apart from the reflection, what do you see?<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 05:36:44</i><br /><hr />Another good theory KalaSA! Maybe Jonas's parents rebelled from the order and thats why they were bumped off?<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 05:39:07</i><br /><hr />OMG!!! i got some SERIOUS CHILLS at the end of that....YAY!! I HEART LONELYGIRL!!!!

its about time chicka!! 

time
to
kick
some
order
a@@
!!!

...and time to start obsessing over the refresh button again!!


[newvidnewvidnewvidnewvid]

GAHH!!

MEEP!!

ps...is there something[someone :X ]in the window or just a reflection from the light on the night window??? 
anyone know??!<br /><i>by star72i on 2007-02-27 05:44:04</i><br /><hr />Has anyone noticed this video isn't posted to Bree, Jonas, or Daniel's you tube accounts?<br /><i>by ZeroOrigin on 2007-02-27 05:49:50</i><br /><hr />ZeroOrigin , yes since the creators announced vlogs were going to be posted on revver first there has been a heck of a delay in them uploading to youtube..<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 05:52:46</i><br /><hr />0-O ..... VIDEO NOT AVAILABLE!!! &gt;.1!?<br /><i>by mizz_ivy on 2007-02-27 05:54:09</i><br /><hr />*301*
Î•Î½Î´Î­ÎºÎ±Ï„Î· Ï€ÏÎ¿Ï†Î·Ï„ÎµÎ¯Î±<br /><i>by MCross on 2007-02-27 06:15:48</i><br /><hr />Hi Everyone!!!

alright, Im geussing by the title and the summary that she has found out Jonas has something to do with the Order......now to watch the video<br /><i>by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-27 06:24:40</i><br /><hr />nooo. that can't be right. it all seems too simple.'bree finds symbols'
'jonas is involved with the order'
that's just not right. after all the complexity.
now i must go to school and ponder all day.
{starts twitching and murmuring}<br /><i>by ffeettuuss on 2007-02-27 06:49:25</i><br /><hr />STUPID VIDEO WONT PLAY, MAYBE I DONT WANNA "TRY AGAIN LATER" STUPID REVVER...............<br /><i>by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-27 07:04:50</i><br /><hr />I dunno... Tachy and Brother spent the weekend with our intrepid trio after the rescue of Daniel. I should think that Tachy would have spent a good, long time looking into Jonas and his background; She would have acted if there was something "off" there. Instead, she left a riddle to figure out. (Of course, the story has to move forward too ;-) )

Personally, it's Daniel that I don't trust right now.<br /><i>by irishka on 2007-02-27 07:22:00</i><br /><hr />FFFfffiiIIIiiRRRrrrRSssSSTtttTTT!!!!1111!!

*Salutes the General*

*Kisses Dream* !

*Meep* !<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 07:32:19</i><br /><hr />LAST 

*slaps the "general"<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 07:43:16</i><br /><hr />Ooh, I like scary Bree.  She's being a proper grown-up!  Yay!  
Well done to all those people who haven't trusted Jonas from the beginning, but I'm still not sure.  It might not be like that.  I am really interested in what's going to happen next, though!
Yay LG is interesting again!  I wasn't enjoying that stalemate in the writing they had for a bit.
Hello to all the other addicts out there!
Eri x<br /><i>by Eri on 2007-02-27 07:50:56</i><br /><hr />Dumber than a solar powered flashlight
Dumber than a quart of orange juice
Dumber than a bundt cake
Dumber than a purple wanker
Dumber than a bag of chips
Dumber than George Bush
Dumber than Paris Hilton
Dumber than Britney Spears in a barbershop 
Dumber than a wooden stove

I'm sorry, was that a rhetorical question?

My computer crashed last night (by crash I mean I tripped and dropped it).  Can't watch video at work.  ARGH!

Goodbye for now :(

MEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by Joe on 2007-02-27 08:00:23</i><br /><hr />If they make Jonas a bad guy, I will never watch LG again ... Who else can they write off? IS BREE in the order too? Errr...<br /><i>by ml_fiore_2005 on 2007-02-27 08:04:42</i><br /><hr />This may be a little far fetched, but maybe Daniel planted the symbol to make it look like Jonas had it. I mean, we already know that Daniel is still mad about Jonas and Bree going for a hike, and he was taken by the Order. Who knows what they did to him! But then again, Jonas won't turn off his cell phone, maye he wants the Order to know where they are.

Well, whatever it it...I'm glad Bree is taking control of the situation.<br /><i>by Pink! on 2007-02-27 08:05:57</i><br /><hr />Jonas has a big greasy nose.<br /><i>by Fight on 2007-02-27 08:11:31</i><br /><hr />Why does everyone luike Jonas so much any way? 

He is retarded.<br /><i>by Fight on 2007-02-27 08:13:59</i><br /><hr />and the story FINALLY hits where I wanted it to.  Where many of us wanted it to.

Yes.

Bree has so much potential as a character.  And the Jonas storyline has a crapload of potential.

The best part about this series?  They can take it anywhere they want, and we'll tell them what the next vid should be about.  This is the most user-oriented drama that has ever existed.  Be proud, creators of the internet.

Mucho Luvo

Marla<br /><i>by marlasinger on 2007-02-27 08:24:07</i><br /><hr />I think its a good twist to make jonas "bad" she was a bit "out of it" for a while. How else would they have been able to get db in the first place fro mthat bar if jonas hadn't said something. jonas helped him pick out his clothes and everything. it was a way of getting closer to bree. take away her best friend and of course she'll get closer to the only other person she can talk to.<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 08:27:03</i><br /><hr />333- I never liked Jonas... I did like Gemma though<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 08:28:53</i><br /><hr />Has anyone ever considered that MAYBE Jonas isn't really a bad guy, and that Bree is just making a HUGE mistake?

--Camo<br /><i>by camo on 2007-02-27 08:37:12</i><br /><hr />337- Highly possible, maybe DB is in the order.. Here is a thery- Remember how the watcher didn't budge when Jonas hit him?? Maybe Jonas never made contact and it was all for show to gain Bree's trust.<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 08:40:28</i><br /><hr />I like that Jonas is bad, so I am gonna believe it for a while.<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 08:41:21</i><br /><hr />now, i don't believe jonas is evil for a second.  she's just as suspicious as some of the fans now -- everyone's a suspect!  

but bree/jessica looked like a sweet bad-girl in a way i haven't seen since the grillz video!  

-------------------------------------------------
http://milowent.blogspot.com
why jessica rose is bigger than linsday lohan and other ramblings 
-------------------------------------------------<br /><i>by milowent on 2007-02-27 08:41:39</i><br /><hr />camo- from the beginning joans has seemed like "the person on reason" 'come live with me' 'be my friend' etc. with his parents "gone" he was just a guy who could help. kinda fishy to me but its not my life on the line. she gave in because we told her to. remember the your decision vid. they went with him and they started to become friends. 

Its kind of like stockhold syndrome. except he isn't the captor he was captive with them. sort of. he was secretly their captor and their friend on the surface. its much easier to get people to do things u want when they r ur friends.<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 08:45:15</i><br /><hr />Here's my stupid question of the day:

I know it's been talked about before but I never saw an answer.

How do we know watchers are bad? They've never done any harm right? so we assume that's because Bree cannot be forced into doing anything.

But who was it that told us watchers were bad? wasn't it Gemma? Wasn't Gemma bad? Well, we don't know that for sure do we?

So in the end...we can be sure of...nothing?<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-27 08:54:45</i><br /><hr />Ha ha - this is brilliant!!

The creators have done such a good job - I really didn't see this happening so soon. 

It raises so many questions and has everyone discussing plotlines again! Brilliant!!!! I haven't been able to read all the comments though :(

We don't know if Jonas is actually evil, or if this is a big act. or maybe Jonas was evil and has switched sides and this is some sort of plot they came up with.

We don't know if the watchers are evil, or if they are following Bree to protect her from something else (maybe one of the boys) - or to protect the boys from her. 

And where do Tachy and Bro really fit in?? And Lucy? And where IS Gemma?

Very clever  - and I can't wait to see where they take us next... they have so many loose ends - they could take us anywhere...<br /><i>by dumbhippo on 2007-02-27 09:08:41</i><br /><hr />I can't watch the video because I am at work. But I kind of get the gist of what is going on by the comments. If this is like a tv show, it is never who they want you to think it is. For instance, my favorite show, Criminal Minds, they always make you think the unsub is one person from the beginning, they make it so obvious, it is too easy, but it is never that person. Most of the dramas you watch are that way. They want you to believe the "bad guy" is one person, but it isn't. That is how they keep you hooked. It is the not knowing, the suspense that keeps you hooked. If they blatantly put out there that Jonas is a bad guy, what will we have to figure out and debate here (wait, we will always come up with something)? Okay, I am just rambling now. I am not saying Jonas is NOT bad, he could be, I AM saying, just because there are things that seem to make him look bad doesn't mean it is so. 

meep<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 09:09:14</i><br /><hr />You know, blackkitty, I started a thread with a similar question. If she was bad, why was she warning Bree about the watchers???<br /><i>by BrokenBliss on 2007-02-27 09:10:51</i><br /><hr />I never thought of that... The watchers haven't actually tried to hurt anyone, maybe the watchers are like 'protectors' and Gemma wanted Bree to flee from them so the bad order guys couldn't get her... And if Jonas is a bad guy from the order, that would explain his attack on the Watchers.<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 09:11:13</i><br /><hr />LOL  Joe!!! So so so funny!<br /><i>by dumbhippo on 2007-02-27 09:12:31</i><br /><hr />you're right blackitty. I have actually thought of that before. Watcher could mean something like guardian angel. Like I have a watcher to protect me from..... well, whatever they are protecting her from. Because you are right, they have never tried to hurt her that we know of, and they have had plenty of opportunities.<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 09:14:19</i><br /><hr />I've decided that some watchers are bad..and some watchers are good....(just to be on the safe side so when Jonas gets found to be good / bad I can say "Ha! told ya so!")<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 09:15:11</i><br /><hr />344- If the bad guy is not who we think it is, then it must be Daniel... OHHH I would hate that if it was him, I really want him to be like the hero/good friend type<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 09:15:27</i><br /><hr />Another question - why - if the watcher guy hadn't planned to do anything but...er...watch... why did he make it so obvious he was there? Why did he just not say anything. Why aren't Bree, Daniel and Jonas really questioning all this? argh!<br /><i>by dumbhippo on 2007-02-27 09:15:51</i><br /><hr />Someone please write an LGPedia entry for Meep!<br /><i>by Paulo on 2007-02-27 09:16:49</i><br /><hr />Lol GF - like that idea!!! I'm not deciding either way - I like hypothesising to much!<br /><i>by dumbhippo on 2007-02-27 09:16:50</i><br /><hr />http://lg15today.blogspot.com/

All the latest from the breeniverse!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2007-02-27 09:17:37</i><br /><hr />350, I'm just sayin. I don't trust anyone in this series. Not a single person. Guess I have been warped by tv. I know a lot of people disagree with me, but just because someone looks good, or bad, does not mean that they are. I just watch. Does that make me a watcher? dum dum dum!<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 09:18:04</i><br /><hr />349 GF- you are too funny. I think you are right though. It is all so mind boggling.<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 09:22:25</i><br /><hr />355- yeah, its hard to trust anyone in this series... maybe the order knows something that the rest of the universe doesn't know and the ceremony is crutial to the well being of man kind. I don't think we've ever questioned the evilness (is that a word??) of the watchers until today, but looking over everything they seem harmless<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 09:25:20</i><br /><hr />Regarding the meep, the act of meeping, and the history and evolution of the meep (originally to "make eep" or to "m'eep") the following  page is meeping hilarious!

http://www.personal.u-net.com/~blacksun/cosmic1.htm<br /><i>by Paulo on 2007-02-27 09:27:01</i><br /><hr />I really want an NBR video on the watchers.<br /><i>by lexi_jean on 2007-02-27 09:27:45</i><br /><hr />I knew it.  He seemed all to strange and wanting to be a part of someone else life that he did not know.
You go girl and kick butt<br /><i>by bsslayer on 2007-02-27 09:43:22</i><br /><hr />ohhh maannnn this is slick... more vids pl0x.<br /><i>by 2Sp3cKo on 2007-02-27 10:05:05</i><br /><hr />It'd be funny to see a Order video with Lucy and gang in their black getups and sunglasses around a webcam laughing and going "WTF?! It's not Jonas!" 

I do like the vengeful Bree.

I don't like the idea of Jonas being in with the Order.

I am, however, hoping for a new interrogation good cop bad cop video of Bree and Daniel grilling a tied up Jonas, haha!

Who knows these things, what the crap was that that she held up? A popsickle puppet with a card board cut out of the Order sign? weird<br /><i>by Sadie on 2007-02-27 10:19:47</i><br /><hr />*waves*

*passes out Grape Nehi*

So, what's with the reference to the Forum?  I guess the Message boards aren't good enough for the Forum people, or good enough for Daniel...

Oh well, I guess we're just here for the fun of it, not to be part of the breeniverse.  We just don't seem to matter.

The Forum people left the message boards after it changed to suit them and now they are the 'focus' of the Creators... guess they like inconsistancy and (what I define in my own way) traitors to themselves.

oh well...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 10:32:59</i><br /><hr />ah Mikel I was in such need of some Grape Nehi. Thank you!

the reference to the forum I think is really because they're the ones who ultimately figured out the password.  Right now, we better step it up and figure out what those pictures from Tachyon's file mean!<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-27 10:36:00</i><br /><hr />You know, if we had to name this series it would be LonelyGirl15, no? This name suggests in general she can't trust anyone (not even her own parents as we found out!). 

I'm really starting to wonder now what's Daniel's role? Maybe, just maybe he's trying to manipulate her as well.<br /><i>by BrokenBliss on 2007-02-27 10:38:41</i><br /><hr />Who is that water person (it's written backwards)

in the description, it's written in code, is it someone who's seriously in need of coding things, or it it someone that found a translater and thought it would be cool, or more realistic, if they coded their descriptions.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 10:46:39</i><br /><hr />Wow, quiet in here...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 10:58:38</i><br /><hr />Im confused about the new video of some guy trying to drown the other one..MEEP<br /><i>by Pretty_Mely22 on 2007-02-27 11:02:18</i><br /><hr />Halfway through the ligatures image, on the right between the two symbols, it seems to me that I see that famous "cat pyramid" thing, does anybody know what I am talking about?  Does anybody else see the resemblance?  I don't know, maybe I am wrong, but it looks like that to me.<br /><i>by Methinks101 on 2007-02-27 11:24:53</i><br /><hr />omg wtf.<br /><i>by hella_samira on 2007-02-27 11:41:08</i><br /><hr />not sure I have a clue what the last few messages were about...

chat is going too slow to keep up with... (if that makes any sense)

Aka... if you're thinking something, put your thought process down... or won't know what you're talking about... hehe.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 11:44:30</i><br /><hr />I have a feeling I could just keep talking and take up all 20 messages (or so) that it puts up on the front page.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 11:51:36</i><br /><hr />Seeing how I can type fairly quickly and it's going 20 or so minutes between responses.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 11:52:03</i><br /><hr />I do miss the chitty-chatty times on the Message boards (that's here)... 

Where ya all at?  school got your tongue?  *laugh*  Earl got your tongue?  (that's a comercial reference)<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 11:52:55</i><br /><hr />ok, can you tell I'm bored?  My favorite people are barely even here anymore, talk to them elsewhere... (ok, there's only 2 people I talk to outside here)

Ones taking exams, the other just messaged me on Myspace.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 11:53:52</i><br /><hr />Speaking of which... 

http://www.myspace.com/mikel888

in case ya wanna check me out... I just put up a new pic, so if ya wanna come find me and chat... 

I don't really have much to talk about these videos (I just watched the last 3)<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 11:55:15</i><br /><hr />I'm glad Bree is going to start thinking instead of acting like the 16 going on 13 girl she was looking like she was acting.

I prefer bantering with people about the going on's, but it seems no one's here...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 11:57:43</i><br /><hr />So, I think I'll just keep talking to myself... cause it's just fun... maybe I should re-post my personal ad I put up a few weeks ago, just cause it was funny... let me see if I can find it...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 11:58:46</i><br /><hr />Anyone wanna come visit for the weekend? Make plans for the month? Schedule for a lifetime? I Prefer a decent (not necessarily beautiful) looking young ladyâ€¦ (no Order affiliation)â€¦ capable of decent conversation and enjoys quiet movies and falling asleep together.

What I offerâ€¦ Pool during the dayâ€¦ Jacuzzi during the cold eveningsâ€¦ and the Buffy Seriesâ€¦ and if you wanna, you can put on the next video whenever you wannaâ€¦ no waitingâ€¦ hehehe.

and, during those times of quiet, silenceâ€¦ we can refresh LG15 all evening waiting for new videosâ€¦ 

All interested, please send me a Noteâ€¦ *smile* 

(ya missed the first trip across America to stop and visit... would have loved to have done lunch with a few people on the way)<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:01:13</i><br /><hr />hey Mikel are you talkin about me???<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 12:02:22</i><br /><hr />Mikel, your myspace is being mean and not letting me add you lol.

I have to day off to 'study for finals' so I'm out getting a tan muahahaha.  But I'm coming in every once in a while for a drink or two...so here I am saying hi!

...and yeah I didn't get some of those comments from people down there.  Someone mentioned something about someone drowning in a video? But then again, I hardly ever watch the videos on the right so that might be what they're talking about.<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-27 12:03:29</i><br /><hr />Hellooooooo...

Is there anybody out there?<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:05:44</i><br /><hr />Hi Blackitty... 

Was wondering if I was going to fill up the page...

if you message me your Myspace, I'll go there and add you, I've never had a problem.

I should check my setup, maybe there's something in there, cause somene else said they had a problem<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:08:23</i><br /><hr />Hello<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 12:11:13</i><br /><hr />Mikel

I think I might have managed to add you.  It's just that the words 'add to friend' don't go with the right link ;)<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-27 12:13:55</i><br /><hr />hey, Mikel #363, are you reading my mind? LOL. Haven't seen you around for a while. So, hi an MEEP!<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 12:15:09</i><br /><hr />Just a quick *meeeeeeeeeep*

Can you believe I score worse at bowling than Tachy does? *sighs* I remember having been better at that... Well, I guess that was before the lonelycrack and the better than lonelycrack kept me from going out... lol.

*meep*<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-27 12:15:57</i><br /><hr />hey blackitty i know on a few of my friends pages because of layouts and stuff if u click right under the add to friend space it will go to the right link. its like everything is shifted a little<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 12:16:09</i><br /><hr />*peeks in...*

*gets Nehi*

Allo?<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 12:18:42</i><br /><hr />Hey there, better than lonelycrack!<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-27 12:20:21</i><br /><hr />Ah pretty hispanic chica...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:24:55</i><br /><hr />And in the spirit of such great weather and being outside in a bikini, I'm going to get some strawberry daiquiri mix...or possibly some Grape Nehi daiquiri mix ;) Anyone wanna join me?<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-27 12:26:36</i><br /><hr />I come bearing bundt cake, iced purple in anticipation of a new vid, and what do I get? Nothing! 

Creators, come on, show me how Daniel's guarding a tied-up Jonas, or at least show me a few clips of P. Monkey, Thor, and Owen trying to intimidate Jonas into telling 'the truth'....

Hi, guys!<br /><i>by vanjula on 2007-02-27 12:26:57</i><br /><hr />Blackitty, it's been snowing for two days where I am. *throws snowball at blackitty in her bikini*
Hahaha! Gotcha!<br /><i>by vanjula on 2007-02-27 12:28:15</i><br /><hr />Hey Purple... just traveling America... I'm in Southern Cali right now... my sister-in-law is sleeping on the recliner... dad's sitting on the couch with me... (got an ugly dog dividing us)... 

watching MythBusters.. (cool show.)

Ok, what is "better than lonelycrack'?

me thinks I missed something...

*waves to LCAF*

*passes out Grape Nehi*<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:28:54</i><br /><hr />*meep*<br /><i>by Perky on 2007-02-27 12:29:38</i><br /><hr />Dream???!!! Baby, is that you ???!!!

*does wide-eyed happy dance*<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 12:31:41</i><br /><hr />Oh, short visit....darn. I was in chat....<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 12:32:40</i><br /><hr />mikel888

"Ok, what is â€œbetter than lonelycrackâ€™?

me thinks I missed somethingâ€¦"

Maybe you did?

Did you watch the Video comment 
"how to not kiss like a dead fish" yet?

*meep*!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 12:34:42</i><br /><hr />Wait, Dream has 'Baby' status?  whoa... 

someone 'affectionate"?<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:35:37</i><br /><hr />hey, i've been secretly watching lonelygirl15 since its beginnings and just now broke down and made an account.

i don't have any profound revelations or anything, though, sorry.<br /><i>by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 12:36:09</i><br /><hr />*waves back at Mikel*<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 12:36:25</i><br /><hr />Hey WO! once I saw you were online, of course I stayed... Guess my bowling team is better of without me anyway. *kisses*

mikel888, that is better than lonelycrack: *kisses WO again*

Perky, *meeeeep*<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-27 12:37:26</i><br /><hr />Mike88 #374, I guess the internet just drop!! (referencing same commercial)hahaha<br /><i>by rosieiswatching on 2007-02-27 12:38:01</i><br /><hr />Hey, my MySpace has been Meeped... 

*gasp*

*guzzles Grape Nehi*<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:39:47</i><br /><hr />mmmmm....*kisses*

Your bowling team doesn't need you, Dream!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 12:39:48</i><br /><hr />ok so i finally got to see the video.  I KNEW IT!!!!!!  i knew that jonas was up to no good.  he looked like he was talking to the watcher that showed up in their front lawn.  why else would he have kept making phone calls on that cell phone??  TO ALLOW THE WATCHERS TO TRACK HIM!  i mean, big fat duh, bree!  

ok, now that she's seen the err of her ways, she's taking action.  GO BREE!!!  where was daniel in this vid?  she should be really skeptical of him, too.  watch your back bree!  no one is helping you ----- 

well, tachyon is proving valuable.

where's the nikki bower report??<br /><i>by taty2004 on 2007-02-27 12:40:07</i><br /><hr />traveling, huh, Mikel? Must be nice. I wish I could get away from this prison of a job and travel somewhere. But alas, the debt I incurred when I was younger (and dumber) will not allow it. I hope you had fun! Guess I need to do some real work today! Talk to you lonelycrackers later. 

Mikel, to get fully up to date, you need to watch the response video on the right entitled How Not To Kiss Like A Dead Fish. You might see some familiar faces. Or, at least, familiar user names. MEEP<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 12:40:30</i><br /><hr />How's WatchingTwo?<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 12:40:46</i><br /><hr />Welcome imaginestars! Glad you are here!!<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 12:41:57</i><br /><hr />Hi all! *meep*

401 imaginestars Welcome! If you've been lurking a while, you see how (not) profound we are... so join right in! Give a good *meep*, you'll feel better. :-)<br /><i>by Perky on 2007-02-27 12:42:51</i><br /><hr />WO, WT is probably lonesome. Or maybe OrangePowers shows him how to growl. Or how to *meep*<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-27 12:44:27</i><br /><hr />WatchingTwo? Okay, now I missed something....

I..really....need....to...work...can't...make...myself...stop....refreshing.....!!!<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 12:45:04</i><br /><hr />i suppose i'm not as hip as everyone else... my internet-language hasn't progressed much further than "lol" and "brb"  what does "meep"? mean?<br /><i>by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 12:48:21</i><br /><hr />well my lord i cant believe that jonas was apart of it well i had doubt af first but when his character started developing i thought he was good well like i sadin the past DTA dont trust anyone and i think that bree is finally beginning to realized that well she can now only trust daniel the one that has been there all along<br /><i>by angelbrunetta on 2007-02-27 12:48:43</i><br /><hr />hi all!!!

mikel88, i played with your magnets!!! hehe<br /><i>by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-27 12:49:04</i><br /><hr />who's watchingtwo??  did i miss something...

*begins scrolling thru comments*

what did i miss??<br /><i>by taty2004 on 2007-02-27 12:49:34</i><br /><hr />Purple, I started to watch that... 

I wouldn't know a lonelycrack member if I bumped into them at wal-mart.. 

unless there are people at the end with their lonelycrack names on pieces of paper in front of them... I'd still not know.

course, I might still be confused after that.

IDK...

but, I'm only half way through my 'vacation'... but it's a working vacation, so I've gotta do SOME work...

just going to miss some auctions on March 6th... if anyone's near canton and wants to buy me a house, I got 2 picked out...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:49:44</i><br /><hr />imaginestars

As you are about to lose your life to Lonelycrack Addiction, see the following LGPedia page to start you out: http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lonelycrack

Meep and most other nonsense is explained there.<br /><i>by Perky on 2007-02-27 12:50:22</i><br /><hr />Wait, we got a m'lord now?  Are we going gothic, too?

Thanx LonelyChick... my magnets don't get played with enough.... they feel neglected.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:52:27</i><br /><hr />ok, gotta get back to the bowling! glad to have sneaked some lg15 time!

purple, taty, WO will explain WT, I'm sure...

mikel888, I trust in your skills to find out who's in that response vid... lol.

WO, love you, Baby!<br /><i>by Dream on 2007-02-27 12:53:35</i><br /><hr />Love you too, Dream!! *kisses and hugs*<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 12:54:20</i><br /><hr />LonelyChick17, shouldn't you have put LC17 instead of LG17?  hehehe.

(Love picking on people.)

and everyone leave me comments and let me check you out if you visit my MySpace.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 12:54:26</i><br /><hr />WatchingTwo...a.k.a. ...Grape Ape from the video we made...

Yeah, mikel888, that's me and Dream in Germany in that vid! Love reigns eternal at LG15!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 12:55:49</i><br /><hr />WO, aren't you from Georgia, too?

I'm not sure where Dream is from, but I'm guessing you went to Germany to visit her?

Hmm... lots going on and no one reporting to me... I'm not very comfortable with that... 

guess I'll have to hook up with an LG15 member and not tell you all till afterwards... hehehe<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:00:46</i><br /><hr />thanks perky, i don't know if i truly understand it but, oh well.  

so... everyone bowls here? or is this something else i'm missing... 

[i feel like the new kid in fifth grade that doesn't know anything]<br /><i>by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 13:00:58</i><br /><hr />mikel888

Sorry about keeping you out of the loop, there buddy, everybody kinda caught up when we released the video on Sunday!

And yes, I'm from Atlanta, and that was a long plane ride....but we were already in love at that point and had to see each other. Of course, since we met here on LG15, we felt it only appropriate to post a fan vid! :)<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:05:43</i><br /><hr />Ok, just watched the kissing video... I think I should kiss Dream... just to make sure I don't kiss like a mackeral...

Do I need an appointment?

hehehe.

Ok, if not, I guess I'd need a volunteer.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:06:42</i><br /><hr />BTW, Hi Perky...

haven't had a message from you in a long time... but nice to see you're still here.

Me.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:08:20</i><br /><hr />imaginestars...It is a lot to catch up on, but welcome! LGPedia may help for some of the idiosynchrocies of the comment boards... just keep trying keywords! *meep*!

Hey Perky! How goes the war?!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:09:10</i><br /><hr />mikel888

yeah...you're gonna have to find your own volunteer for that one, sir! LOL<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:10:54</i><br /><hr />*meep meep*

Any new LG15 love connections in the last few hours?  ;)<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-27 13:11:33</i><br /><hr />yeah, i just used it to figure out why every one is always saluting the general.  i have to say, you guys are a little odd... but in that endearing adorable way.  

i can't believe two people fell in love on this message board, congratulations guys.  i watched your video, there's no better way to announce your relationship than making out and posting the video!<br /><i>by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 13:11:56</i><br /><hr />imaginestars - everything here is random. Think of *meep* as an all-around appropriate word... for 'hello' or in the place of swear words, to express happiness or anything else. 

As for the rest... bowling was a reference to Tachyon in the 'Human Ransom' video. You'll catch on pretty quickly that we're just a bunch of procrastinating overachievers desperate to find anything to do except what we have to do. ;-)

Hi mikel... I've been weaning myself off of Lonelycrack before I fail out of school. 

WO... war?<br /><i>by Perky on 2007-02-27 13:13:29</i><br /><hr />427 Well, from someone that lives like 20 minutes from you and am currently about 2200 miles from you right now...

you're lucky, cause I'd hate to come kick your ass cause you didn't tell me.

*laugh*

congrats... I remember the days of falling in love and traveling to see that person.

course, she cheated on me, got pregnant and told me just before I bought a plane ticket for us to get engaged.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:13:52</i><br /><hr />Hiya krig! *meep meep*!

Your co-sponser just missed you! She's in a conference for the next couple of days but snuck away briefly just now.

No new love connections in the last few hours that I'm aware of....are we becoming yesterdays news already? LOL!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:14:55</i><br /><hr />Perky.."war" general term for school these days....<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:16:31</i><br /><hr />WO - I will win or die fighting :)<br /><i>by Perky on 2007-02-27 13:17:44</i><br /><hr />sorry for your luck mikel888.  

at least you didn't buy the ticket and were out all the money... that happened to me.  except he didn't get pregnant, that would be weird.<br /><i>by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 13:17:50</i><br /><hr />Hey WO!  I am sure I can count on you to send my love to Dream!  Heh heh...

Nah, you guys are still the big news, but I was hoping your story might have inspired some others!  Then you could all go on a talk show..."Couples who drink Grape Nehi together, stay together!"<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-27 13:17:55</i><br /><hr />*laugh*  Imaginestar, that's an interesting way of putting it... 

my first thought (had I seen the whole thing) would have been... wait, I know Dream... where is she?  cause I know WO was right down the road from me.

Then, after either asking, or finding out on the Frapr Map... 

It would have become clear.

(and darn, finding someone to tell you if you kiss like a mackrel is hard to find, thanx WO)

(oh, and to clear it up, I'm not kissing WO to find out)<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:20:19</i><br /><hr />WO and mikel, from "around" Atlanta here too :)<br /><i>by christyuga on 2007-02-27 13:21:34</i><br /><hr />don't just imagine one star, mikel888... imagine a whole sky of starS

what's with all of you guys being from gorgia?  is anyone from new york?<br /><i>by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 13:23:35</i><br /><hr />I just love that my Grape Nehi reference caught on... don't think there's anything on the forum boards that credit me with something so important... 

but it seems to flair up when I come back, not sure how prevelent it is when I'm not here (obviously)... *laugh*

I want that shirt, though, Krig...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:23:36</i><br /><hr />you'd think that if Jonas was really in the Order that he wouldn't leave stuff like that just lying around...
sure seems like a plant to me.<br /><i>by coturrotw on 2007-02-27 13:25:02</i><br /><hr />Hey! You mean I'm not the only one here from Georgia?
Who'da thunk?<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-27 13:25:03</i><br /><hr />It is odd that there are so many from GA.<br /><i>by christyuga on 2007-02-27 13:27:01</i><br /><hr />â€Couples who drink Grape Nehi together, stay together!â€

ROFL!!

Not kissing me, mikel888? That's fine, LOL!

Sorry to hear about what happened to you, though, I guess it was definitely not meant to be...<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:27:10</i><br /><hr />mikel, you are a brilliant, brilliant man!

Who knew that when Dream and I were talking about having co-sponsors and making food for support group meetings so long ago, that we would catapult bundt cake to stardom?  Betty Crocker owes us royalties!<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-27 13:27:23</i><br /><hr />Yeah, hard to noticed with that UGA reference, Christy... hehehe.

There's like 5 people from Georgia, we're just cool enough to post a lot... 

There's hundreds of people on LG15, just not as active.

I'm in the Breeniverse area right now, though, I'm in Southern Cali, but they went north, so I don't see Bree around here anywhere.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:27:35</i><br /><hr />I think its awesome that fellow lonelycrackers are together. its so touching<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 13:27:52</i><br /><hr />Hmmm...lots of Georgians....nope...cant' think of any reason why that would be a good thing! LOL<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:28:24</i><br /><hr />AwwWWWwww... thanks LCAF!!

When Dream and I first met at least we KNEW we had ONE thing in common! Yay lonelycrack!! *meep*!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:30:44</i><br /><hr />Krig, you a surveyor?

(just checked out your pic and I ruled out Indiana Jones wannabe)<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:30:49</i><br /><hr />Well, I'm not a native Georgian, just have "adopted" it.  Canadian actually.  Married to an Alabamian.  Two beautiful red headed 1 1/2 year old twin boys :) But yes, I did go to UGA, not just a crazy fan ;)<br /><i>by christyuga on 2007-02-27 13:31:23</i><br /><hr />No, mikel, I am an archaeologist...your first instinct was right...<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-27 13:32:11</i><br /><hr />My idea... There's too many mediums for meeting people... the girl I met in South Dakota, I met in a Mud (Multi-User Dungeon) in the early 90's... we were together for 5 years.

I've dated a couple people off Yahoo chat, and 1 off Pogo (that was a 1 time visit)

I even met a girl or two in real life... hehehe.

IDK, I gave up when I filed for divorce... Might start up again soon, we'll see... doing my new business and once I'm rich, I'm sure I'll have someone interested... hehe.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:35:28</i><br /><hr />Your welcome WO. I know how it feels I met my now husband online 4 years ago<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 13:36:31</i><br /><hr />See how I am?  went for the sure fire "I see Surveyors all the time, haven't met an Archeologist yet..."

and whammo... wrong again.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:38:12</i><br /><hr />LCAF, 4 years ago you were 16, right?

shame, shame... and isn't he 53?  that's just WRONG... hehehe..

j/k<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:40:11</i><br /><hr />It would be nice if they wrapped up one pressing mystery:  Where are Bree's stuffed animals now?<br /><i>by QtheC on 2007-02-27 13:40:41</i><br /><hr />LCAF

Online meeting! Yay!

It's funny, we've been getting more and more stories of people telling us about real-life online success stories...it's very wonderful to hear!

It's really amazing how life works sometimes!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:40:43</i><br /><hr />i'm sure i'm going to offend someone with this question...

i was watching some of the other "response videos" and i don't understand.  i kind of feel like i'm talking to wwf fans here but... do these people know that the story is already written, that bree, jonas, and daniel aren't going to be watching these videos for advice?  or, is LG15 paying all of those people as actors too (i doubt this theory).  Or, are they just playing make-believe for entertainment's sake? 

i'm so confused! 

[meep?]

was that right?<br /><i>by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 13:40:49</i><br /><hr />I know Mikel im just wait for him to kick the bucket. and ill be rich Mwhahahaha 

j/k

and yes WO it is awesome I love him to peices<br /><i>by LCAF on 2007-02-27 13:42:07</i><br /><hr />I am bored and a lonelycrack addict, so after I mentioned the first instance of bundt cake, I felt I needed to go back and find it.  Here it is people, in all its glory, the first mention of bundt cake on LG15.......

Video: 0089 Homeless
Date Posted: December 1, 2006

711

krig (send note) Says:
December 4th, 2006 at 1:32 pm

Marbella #702 Dream and I have been discussing the refreshments for next weekâ€™s meeting. Do you want to bring a bundt cake?

Dream #704 At this point, _I_ am always awake waiting for these things, so maybe Iâ€™ll just take a picture of myself at every hour and string them together for an incredibly boring tour through my addiction.

*gets up from chair, stretches, goes to find a cookie*<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-27 13:44:13</i><br /><hr />OK, who's Lexi?  hehehe.

Love the name, but don't know who she is... but she got LG15 friends, so I know she's on here.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:46:01</i><br /><hr />mikel, it's ok, I do a lot of survey as an archaeologist, so you weren't all wrong!

I also challenge you to go back and find the first time you mentioned Grape Nehi!<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-27 13:46:01</i><br /><hr />467 FIRST time?  damn, that was like 2 months ago... hehehe.

that would take some doing.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:47:53</i><br /><hr />OK, brb, but I think it was after the Bundt cake came up, and after the slurpees... 

someone mentioned being able to trace orange juice with something purple... and I mentioned Grape Nehi... 

it didn't catch on at first because someone mentioned Blue being the opposite of Orange... and that didn't get very far... but then I installed the Dispenser and the fountain in the back of the room, been here ever since, cept when the Forum stole it for a couple days.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 13:53:09</i><br /><hr />#463 imaginestars
I'm not sure what a wwf fan is, but I do write sometimes.
When I write a story, I'll have a basic outline set out and fill in the details as they rise. I would never anchor myself to one idea because then I'm not free to explore other ideas.
I'm not certain, but I'm fairly sure that the LG15 writers have a basic outline developed, but that outline changes detail in accordance with the responses they find here and in the forums.
 One example is that OpAphid and Tachyon were fan fiction. The writers picked up on it and intergrated it into their own storyline.
 Bree, Jonas and Daniel won't be watching the videos for advice, but I'm willing to bet that teh writers and artist will watch some of the fan videos for ideas.
Also, you're correct. The majority of the fan videos are made for the sake of entertainment...but then, isn't everything we do for the sake of entertainment?<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2007-02-27 13:55:23</i><br /><hr />mikel, just go back 2 months and do a search for Nehi on each page, working forward...shouldn't take too long!  Good luck!<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-27 13:58:42</i><br /><hr />imageinestars, to answer your question, the videos on the right are just fanfic. Yes, the people know that this is all fake/scripted and everything but the creators of LG15 do take some advice off of these comment boards, which is why LG15 can become addicting and all.  I also thought it was a lil weird when ppl would talk to the characters like they were real ppl, actually i still find it kinda weird but now i understand, and yes, there are some ppl who I think take it a liiiillll overboard, (that greystroke guy on youtube and a couple others)but anyway,,,,,i know where your coming from.......<br /><i>by lonelychick17 on 2007-02-27 13:58:47</i><br /><hr />mikel888

I think lexi may be lexi_jean...<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 13:59:31</i><br /><hr />434 Perky: I'm proud of ya! Hang in there! We'll pass our classes despite the lonelycrack. We can do it!

Who said UGA? ewwwww

WO and LCAF:  haha, I can relate to you two also :) don't you love the internet and the amazing people it lets us meet?! lol<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-27 14:00:31</i><br /><hr />*wipes brow* whoo thanks for the explanation of WatchingTwo. This is so stupid when I say it outloud, but I thought Dream had a little WatchingOne in the oven, and they were calling it WatchingTwo! meep meep meep meep meep

Then I thought, how did that happen so fast?! And for her to know about it already? Wow, I really have been too involved in my real life lately.<br /><i>by purplepassion on 2007-02-27 14:02:51</i><br /><hr />Ok, my battery is about to die and I have to go to the grocery store.  I'll check back later and see how that Grape Nehi quest is coming!

*grabs a Grape Nehi for the road from the dispenser*<br /><i>by krig on 2007-02-27 14:04:11</i><br /><hr />O.K.....on subject...

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

I think Daniel is in the Order as well...or some faction of it. I don't think anyone has Bree's best interests at stake here.

Evidence?

His statements "by the gods..." in the Hungover video.

His "brainwashing" by the Order revealing hidden or suppressed memory (i.e. "Cassie")

He may be a "sleeper" agent, however, unaware of his level of involvement...

Bree may be in more trouble than she realizes.<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 14:06:23</i><br /><hr />purplepassion...LOL!!<br /><i>by WatchingOne on 2007-02-27 14:07:42</i><br /><hr />This video makes me a little disappointed.  I really liked Jonas, I thought he was part of the home team.  Still, it's possible he's as much of a pawn in this whole ordeal as Bree is.  Right creators? *pleads*<br /><i>by Cara on 2007-02-27 14:11:41</i><br /><hr />474 hiya kitty!

I suddenly remembered a couple of hours ago that I'm smart! And that I *gasp* like writing papers, so I should quit stalling before it's too late to catch up. Hahaha. 

You on the other hand... suntanning? I mean, it's freezing here so I don't really blame you... but you're gonna end up with all-nighters again if you keep it up. 

*meep*<br /><i>by Perky on 2007-02-27 14:11:48</i><br /><hr />This video is sad :(

Especially at the end when she said "that girl has died"

I liked the old Bree with "Proving Science Wrong", and now there won't be anymore of that becasue she's going to go all Emo on us and never do anything funny or cool anymore :,(<br /><i>by stayinorder on 2007-02-27 14:20:55</i><br /><hr />Ok, that took longer than I thought... having to load them... found a message from someone else mentioning Grape Nehi... started back from there.. and found it... 

about 3 messages after this one, I mention going to a specialty store LOOKING for a Grape Nehi... 


Video 106: "Bree's Gone"

494 
mikel888 (send note) Says: 
December 28th, 2006 at 10:47 am 
. o O ( Is Ralph a Calico Dog? That would be scarry!!! )

(Calicoâ€™s are orangeâ€¦ and Cats, traditionally)

Iâ€™m afraid for the thoughts I just hadâ€¦ 

Iâ€™d hate to see me on Orange Juice.

*goes to grab a Grape Nehi.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 14:26:31</i><br /><hr />lonelychick17 and moondoogle, thanks for the information... it's been awhile since i've heard the term "fanfic" believe it or not, the last time i heard was in middle school when my friend used to write them about the members of hanson.  Oh, and when i said "wwf fan" i meant the people who get really invested in the world wrestling federation... like hulk hogan and stuff? even though it's not real

i never meant to degrade anyone who takes an interest in making the response videos, i was just curious.

our generation is so weird, but i kinda like it.<br /><i>by imaginestars on 2007-02-27 14:38:49</i><br /><hr />480. 

Oh Perky, see the trick is...going outside to tan WITH my books.  Studying under the sun is always a good time.  And the smell of suntan lotion just puts me in a good mood!

Congrats on your realization! gald to hear you're back on track ;)<br /><i>by blackitty on 2007-02-27 14:50:59</i><br /><hr />I actively volunteer to apply lotion... 

Just thought I'd put that out there.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 14:59:25</i><br /><hr />Great, everyone left again... *sigh*<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 15:03:21</i><br /><hr />What's that Tinny video thing?  "For my helper"?

sad and strange... 

but alas, here I sit, again, trying to surf through tv channels, trying to find something interesting... 

no new notes, no one reading...

if no one reads what I write, does it still take up comment space?  hehehe.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 15:05:46</i><br /><hr />OK, getting bored now... don't wanna be here all by me lonesome...

this is not lonelyboy or anything.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 15:10:36</i><br /><hr />Grrr... bye all... hope ya have fun sunning, smooching and carying on... *smile*<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2007-02-27 15:12:17</i><br /><hr />This looks fake :S<br /><i>by SweetKisses.xox. on 2007-02-27 16:25:52</i><br /><hr />Seems like the end of an era. But as one path ends, another continues. The journey is just beginning. A group of dudes is greater than the sum of the individual dudes. The intuition defines the logic, the empiricism is not dogma. Anyone think she has eyes like Sarah Michelle Gellar in that clip ? I've always liked her eyebrows though, I've never seen such perfection, they draw you in like a bumblebee to the nectar.<br /><i>by TimE on 2007-02-27 16:59:12</i><br /><hr />GF - If you look at the window, it looks like theres something out there, it looks like either someone is watching her or something I can't really tell, but something isn't right.<br /><i>by ladysolitary85 on 2007-02-27 17:25:37</i><br /><hr />Damn I've been calling that one for the past 3 videos!!!! None of you wanted to see it but I knew he was to damn confident when he hit that watcher, he knew he wouldn't do anything because it was all part of the plan!!!! HELL YEAH!<br /><i>by sunshy9 on 2007-02-27 19:55:27</i><br /><hr />*******HEY COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE MUSIC USED ON '130 THE HUMAN RANSOM' CLIP IS!!!!! PLEASE!!! ITS BEEN STUCK IN MY HEAD FOR DAYS...... PLEASE EMAIL ME THE NAME IF U KNO AT lil_pouneh@hotmail.com THAT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED*******<br /><i>by lilpouneh on 2007-02-27 20:40:01</i><br /><hr />holy horse, that looks like a face in the window!<br /><i>by EquineTendencies on 2007-02-27 21:36:24</i><br /><hr />I have make $950.00 From this Site Below


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As for Bree, you really should think about it.  His parents dissapeared, you don't KNOW your real parents.  He was in the care of a "nanny," you had a "helper."

Could it be that he's just as tangled up in the Order's nasty little trap as you are?<br /><i>by Crystal_Chord on 2007-02-28 07:32:46</i><br /><hr />The symbol of the order on a building block? What a cheap prop. Really.<br /><i>by DizzoMonkey on 2007-03-02 08:22:21</i><br /><hr />So why wasn't it shown how Jonas got tied up? Are we supossed to believe that Bree overpowered him? It doesn't seem like it was Daniel's idea so why did he go along with her?<br /><i>by Jammers on 2007-03-02 14:33:04</i><br /><hr />500!!<br /><i>by s9991 on 2007-03-03 00:15:55</i><br /><hr />I just got my computer back online after a week. So I just saw this video but I have to say, Great Video! 

Very well done, Bree's slow reveal gave me chills. Can't wait to watch the rest.<br /><i>by DanielP on 2007-03-03 23:14:29</i><br /><hr />O.o Maybe Bree drugged Jonas then Daniel locked him in a closet or something. XD I just can't invision Bree knocking him out and tying him to a chair.<br /><i>by SailorGadget on 2007-06-18 10:18:01</i><br /><hr />Could that be foreshadowing?<br /><i>by pessimistic amoeba on 2007-08-23 23:37:53</i><br /><hr />interesting. It's amazing how she can go from this giddy girl to this serious, "I have Jonas" in a matter of hours.<br /><i>by fallenangel81 on 2007-08-31 14:59:28</i><br /><hr />"that dumb girl died"...uh oh<br /><i>by xxheartbreakerxx on 2007-09-07 15:43:16</i><br /><hr />Nice, she looks way hot in this video.<br /><i>by svengoolie on 2007-09-10 22:23:50</i><br /><hr />theres a freeze frame at 1:14<br /><i>by kira902k on 2007-09-14 14:16:06</i><br /><hr />bree's voice . . . sounds like the op aphid effects on her voice . . . whats happening?!<br /><i>by knotbox on 2007-10-26 21:06:16</i><br /><hr />Tis is the first lonelygirl15 vid that i saw. I am not sure how i came across it but i did :P

I watched this and was like..... Ok

But them i watched some more and when it got to the order i was like whats the order so i went back and watched it from the very beggining. And now im ADDICTED. i check this website everyday and watch the vids and cant wait for the next. It annoys me when they dont post for ages

But i love it and i miss bree :(<br /><i>by closetcloex on 2007-10-27 13:41:43</i><br /><hr />Oh snap, she got all defensive and shiznit. Well I don't beleive Jonas is a part of the Order, I refuse to beleive it, I think the Order got to her or something, she sounded a little doped up...somewhat like Daniel did in that vid the Order or whoever they are posted. This is getting really intense.<br /><i>by nightstalker on 2008-02-21 09:10:33</i><br /><hr />ever heard of the phrase "ignorance is bliss" bree? jesus bree you are retarded.

"but that dumb girl died the day you killed her father" im not gonna lie thats a pretty sick line.<br /><i>by cleversmynamee on 2008-05-27 13:56:24</i><br /><hr />Oh dear.

There's no way Jonas is working for the Order. I just refuse to believe that. Bree must be losing it at this point, but I do see where she's coming from with not really knowing much about him...<br /><i>by heatherla on 2008-06-19 17:35:09</i><br /><hr /></td></tr><table></center>