| FIRST!!!! by _erin_ on 2007-01-05 20:30:18 That's it! I'm never watching another LG15 vid again. See you guys Sunday... by MildlyUnwell on 2007-01-05 20:30:23 FIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!! *meep* by Perky on 2007-01-05 20:30:23 FFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111!!!!! by EmilyB1983 on 2007-01-05 20:30:42 FIRST *kiss* by colera on 2007-01-05 20:31:11 FIRST! by Psychostephy on 2007-01-05 20:31:21 *SHOOTS THE GENERAL* by LordGreystoke422 on 2007-01-05 20:31:26 First by ashmsmith03 on 2007-01-05 20:31:26 Wooohooo by DaPinkDvl on 2007-01-05 20:32:03 not fiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrssssstttttttttt!1 but close by becky on 2007-01-05 20:32:03 early by Strinka on 2007-01-05 20:32:18 wow, lots of lag by jon on 2007-01-05 20:32:22 Her Dad isnt her dad? Neither is her mom...but she isnt talking to her mom anytime soon? WOW! by LordGreystoke422 on 2007-01-05 20:32:28 top 20? by blender_grl on 2007-01-05 20:32:34 Yes! by XxPrissy_GirlxX on 2007-01-05 20:32:55 first!!!!!!! meep! by deathstarpsycho on 2007-01-05 20:32:58 finally! by Rebecca on 2007-01-05 20:32:59 Im glad she posted her video Come on Bree you need to clear your thoughts and talk more to people you love! That’s a screwed up story! What’s up with her real dad and her real mom? This is getting way to complicated!!! Please let’s go back to Bree proving science wrong!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 20:33:05 thank goodness, an update by Owned on 2007-01-05 20:33:10 YESSSSSSS! Finally. If any of you saw my last comment you knew I'd be home at 10:30...and it's now 10:32. Figures I'd be here as soon as I sat down. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2007-01-05 20:33:30 =D by SwirlingMasquerade on 2007-01-05 20:33:32 I knew something like that would happen. It seems the itscassie story and the canon story are starting to intertwine or echo each other. itscassie has often said she was taken from her family. And remember Gemma's comments about that family who moved away...when she heard from them again it was like they were a different family. I wonder where Bree's real family is? by krig on 2007-01-05 20:33:41 HAHA...Her mom isnt her dad either..haha..WHEEE I meant that her mom isnt really her mom..I need to rewatch by LordGreystoke422 on 2007-01-05 20:33:44 oooh and i forgot FFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSTTTTT MEEEPPPP Salutes everyone and the general!!! This darn video took forever to load!!!! I think her dad is Darth Vader!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 20:33:52 Wow, so her parents aren't her parents, her dad is dead, she's not speaking to her mom, whom I assume betrayed her in some way . . . plus she's still got a crazy cult out to kidnap her and do heaven knows what . . . yeah, I'd say she needs space! Did her crazy cult-member mother adopt her, perhaps in a shady way, specifically to be used by the cult, and her father just found out her true motives? First! *meep* ahhh, the lonelycrack by Spiletta42 on 2007-01-05 20:34:07 i heart being on the e-mail notice now XD by avian_firefly on 2007-01-05 20:34:16 Holy crap top 30 by Deanna on 2007-01-05 20:35:20 Crazy! by julie on 2007-01-05 20:35:23 1st shit! by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:35:34 yay! New video I've been so sad about Bree's dad..... :( by That_one_girl on 2007-01-05 20:35:53 New Vid yay by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:36:07 uh...wow top 10 yay by ashmsmith03 on 2007-01-05 20:36:23 Fuckinn bree looks hot in this vid- by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:37:20 But what she said is true...I just lost my first child on christmas day (miscarriage) and ow, I want to keep on living like everythings okay, and that im still pregnant and such but when people bring it up all the time all it does is pour more viniger in the wound. Poor "bree" by Deanna on 2007-01-05 20:37:21 she was ADOPTED???? by Owned on 2007-01-05 20:37:45 FIRRSSTT!!! 1 NOT : ) .. for the General.. Am I #40? by Marbella on 2007-01-05 20:37:45 *salutes the general* *turns and salutes the forum* (in a Dane Cook kind of way) I am very frustrated and angered by what has gone on tonight... thank you Creators for the new video... but I think I'm done with this for a while. Have a good night and weekend Lonelycrackheads, have an extra Grape Nehi for me. by Perky on 2007-01-05 20:38:02 I'm so sorry Bree. Remember that Daniel and Jonas have your best interests at heart, even though I know right now you don't want to talk about what's going on. Be sure to keep your eyes out for the Order. Good luck. by taisetsuna on 2007-01-05 20:38:11 Wooh, top 50? or even top 100! :) Awesome, now all I have to do is actually watch the video! by Aidan on 2007-01-05 20:38:18 #34 Deanna Oh dear, I am so sorry! by krig on 2007-01-05 20:38:30 FFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TOLD YA SO! by jack russell terrorist on 2007-01-05 20:38:48 i'm sorry deanna... by Owned on 2007-01-05 20:38:50 dont give up perky! by becky on 2007-01-05 20:39:28 Best acting so far- nice job. by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:39:41 Wow. This was very unexpected. Or am I just naive? Or however you spell it. Where are her real parents? What's going on? Why can't she talk to her "mom"? I also think she did a wonderful job with this video. Terrific acting! by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2007-01-05 20:40:02 i havent seen the new video yet. i said this on like the last post of the last video (im allways behind)... ok i went to play my guitar trying to clear my head and have given it some thought. i got a lot of messages. and i thank all who sent them and who have pleaded with me to stay. i have decided to stick it out and stay. i will try to keep a level head and just try to have fun and ignore the negitive comments. i will TRY… for you guys… by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 20:40:19 omg!!! by colorpulse24 on 2007-01-05 20:40:26 =) by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:40:29 i wonder if she was adopted *for* the ceremony... by Owned on 2007-01-05 20:40:48 wohoo by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:40:58 so sad... by lukossmom on 2007-01-05 20:41:11 IF U CANNOT SEE THE VIDEO ON UR ADRESS BAR PUT -- http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=146 okay? by colorpulse24 on 2007-01-05 20:41:23 Is it that Bree doesn't want to talk to her "mother" for quite a while, or is she unable to talk to her? This is quite an interesting turn of events...hopefully we will get some real answers soon by javagirl on 2007-01-05 20:41:27 tube baby by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:41:29 woo! by sarcasticlive on 2007-01-05 20:41:40 WOW that was unexpected. So a baby-napping cult. by Psychostephy on 2007-01-05 20:41:53 Poor Bree. I feel bad even though it isn't real. by Alexaaa on 2007-01-05 20:42:03 wow by Cayla18 on 2007-01-05 20:42:30 new video was posted at comment 2200, while I was posting comment about new video being posted. happens every time. by jack russell terrorist on 2007-01-05 20:43:34 #25, Spilleta. Good thinking. I think her "dad" probably knew the real motives all along though, and realized now that it's unfair for her. A) because she wasn't born into that family and she didn't choose that religion, and B) because she's been living on the run for over a month sleeping in random motels and warehouses, eating out of dumpsters. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2007-01-05 20:43:56 cloud_ax, I'm pleased that you are staying. We need you! Don't worry, we will work this all out. Someone over on the forum just suggested that perhaps Jonas and Bree have the same REAL parents and that this will turn out to be like Star Wars. So that would make Danielbeast Han Solo! Yay! by krig on 2007-01-05 20:44:59 #33 are smoking wacky tabaccy? She becoming way too slim we can see all her bones!!! In my book squelletic doesn't equal sexy! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 20:45:10 Could she have been "bred" for a particular role in the cult? Is she the daughter of someone more powerful in their ranks? Or, as it was suggested earlier, was she kidnapped and raised as she was for some purpose. I did some research on the injections she was getting...they weren't planning on any "blood-letting" were they? by javagirl on 2007-01-05 20:45:18 Woah... by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-05 20:45:23 i've been watching lg15 since the beginning, but this is my first post. i sat here and waited for the video to load while screaming at my boyfriend that i was busy and switching between youtube to see if it was finally done. it is. so. i don't know what to think. i think that there might be something to a theory someone threw out in the 'unthinkable' video about jonas repeatedly asking if the man he saw was really bree's dad. maybe jonas is more caught up in this than we know. but i don't think they're related. i don't know. i'm just getting super frustrated with waiting for days for a new video and then only getting one small piece of information when there are so many questions left to be answered. someone. please. help me. i'm addicted. by jpeg on 2007-01-05 20:46:44 Bree i am so sorry. most of my friends have lost their dad's. i think u should try to talk to someone, such as a greif counseler. it could help you smooth over this large void in your life. Jonas might b able to help u w/ ur greif issues as well. by ilovedanielbeast on 2007-01-05 20:47:01 Her real mother was a druggie, and her parents took her, then when her real mother came after her, her not-real mother accidentally stabbed her. Her not-real father buried her real mother behind the house and they never spoke of it again. Until the real-mother's rich father and ex-boyfriend look for their daughter, and come after her not-real parents. The Order are all their henchmen (rich fathers can afford bunches of henchmen). by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-01-05 20:47:01 69th! 69! 69! 69! by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:47:27 69th! 69! 69! 69!69th! 69! 69! 69! by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 20:47:43 69? NO WAY! TOP 100!!!! by vanjula on 2007-01-05 20:47:59 WHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY COW!!!!!!! "!" by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 20:48:30 i feel like eventually her real parents are going to find her on youtube and start making videos to contact her. by analin on 2007-01-05 20:48:38 wow by robot on 2007-01-05 20:49:06 FINALLY Geez that took forever! by BrokenBliss on 2007-01-05 20:49:20 well, any suspicions that they faked his death are kind of on the backburner for me. She looks pretty damn upset. I wonder where they're going with the 'my parent's aren't my parents' thing.... by runawaykite on 2007-01-05 20:49:25 top 100 MEEP!!!! by loveithateit on 2007-01-05 20:49:39 I smell an Oscar!!! by jack russell terrorist on 2007-01-05 20:49:40 her real parents got killed by her fake parents!!! They poisonned them with ORANGE SLURPEEEEE!!!! Muuuaaaaahhh aaahhh ahhha Muahhh ahha ahh aaaahha by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 20:49:59 So of course I go to Chili's for a few hours and a new video is posted ;) by Jess on 2007-01-05 20:50:22 excellent by slawter on 2007-01-05 20:50:25 Before I watch this video, I feel strongly compelled to state this: PLEASE nobody post VIDEO or NEW VIDEO 12-50x, making the page impossible to reload. It is people like this that ruin it for all of us. Do you want to see this main page moderated? Well, WE DON'T. Please stop. Thanks, Marbella by Marbella on 2007-01-05 20:51:50 Weren't we talking about duck pancakes earlier? They are making them on "Dinner and a Movie" on TBS. Sorry. Off topic. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2007-01-05 20:51:53 a lot of questions were answered but we got some more. and she did look really upset. and her parents aren't her real parents! time to go look for the real parents... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 20:52:08 *snugs her* by piepiepie on 2007-01-05 20:52:15 Maybe by mother she meant her biological mother. I was adopted and i call my mom (the woman who raised me) mom. and my birht mother, my mother. maybe thats what she meant. i dunno. i hope that she wasn't like a black market baby or something, someone they knew had a kid and they didn't want it so they gave it to brees parents and it was bree or something. maybe brees parents were watchers for a choosen one(bree). and they had to protect her but when she ran away they couldn't help but save her because they grew to love her as their own and didn't want to hurt her in the ceremony. or something just a though by LCAF on 2007-01-05 20:52:48 dangerdoom, please stop swearing. cloud, i'm glad you're back, but i checked out the forum stuff and although i am normally very cool i'm too tired for this sort of thing. bethy, say it to our faces, ok? i'm out. by mary on 2007-01-05 20:52:52 Your dad is not your dad. Your mother is not your mother. Your mind is not your own. by pariah164 on 2007-01-05 20:54:22 #65 jpeg: welcome!! Maybe Jonas thought that Bree didn't look anything like her dad, and that's why he asked? I'm getting a bit tired of this "all this and more to be answered next time on another exciting episode of.... LONLEYGIRL15!!!" Oy. by vanjula on 2007-01-05 20:55:07 Fiiirrrst!!! Top 100?? by mommy72900 on 2007-01-05 20:55:12 cloud - you have to stay around!! We would miss you terribly!! :-( by Jess on 2007-01-05 20:55:32 NEW VIDEO HOLY CRAP! by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-05 20:56:18 #81 marbella: Amen to that. I think The Creators need to give us more info at a time than they have been.... The slowness with which this moves is become excruciating.... by vanjula on 2007-01-05 20:57:43 anti?_drug - Dinner & a Movie hasn't been the same since Annabell left. by sum1udontkno on 2007-01-05 20:58:21 i think that maybe the order used her as a science experiment sort of thing. to like breed and raise a person to perform the ceremony. it would mean she's not even a real person, but more like a construction. and that's why they could be pursuing her so vigourously because it was expensive and highly illegal. i don't think that the order is above the law. i want answers! by jpeg on 2007-01-05 20:58:24 wow so really who were the real parents. is it some sort of important bloodline that the order wants to get their hands on? maybe the real parents were like very very important people in the order? or very speical? wow. and mary i dont wish people to say it to my face cause it will be on like donkey kong... it would be very ugly... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 20:58:51 It must really suck for Bree...She just lost her dad, and she also found out that her Dad and Mom aren't really her Dad and Mom...what's next? Jonas isn't Jonas??? by rill2503456 on 2007-01-05 20:59:33 I hope that it doesn't turn out to be Star Wars-esque. That would just make it sad and unoriginal..and after all this time, it would be a let down. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2007-01-05 20:59:41 We apologize for the video delay. There were issues with the upload. Thanks for your understanding. by The Creators on 2007-01-05 21:00:30 that was so sad! by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-05 21:00:41 jpeg i bet that the order IS the law! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:00:44 Did we decide that "The Creators" were really the creators...or just someone screwing around? by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2007-01-05 21:01:24 FINALLY! by cacacarkeys on 2007-01-05 21:02:16 The Creators dont worry we understand. technology can be a pain sometimes. :) by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:02:24 oooo yeah what if bree and jonas were really twins and they found out and hid it from daniel and daniel got really jealous cause he thought they were together but... ... ummm yeah i'm not a geek. by sum1udontkno on 2007-01-05 21:02:35 yeah well I gotta tell you folks I don't think I'll be coming as often... this is getting disappointing i think by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 21:03:10 First night back at my student flat and I can't sleep! It's gone 4am in the UK lol. NEW VID!! xD Now to watch it!! by nylon on 2007-01-05 21:03:27 cloud_ax I've been away a bit. What happened??? Do I need to loan you my light saber?? It goes "doop" "doop" (smile) Want a Nehi?? (gives cloud_ax a hug) (crossbow ready for action) by mommy72900 on 2007-01-05 21:05:10 FIIIRRRRRRSSSSSTTTTTT!! :) and i liked this video! I'm lovin the mystery of this series! I can't wait to find out more about her mom, because we've heard a lot about her outspokeness and her character... I wonder what she did that made Bree not want to see her anytime soon! and I bet this also means that they weren't in fact kidnapped by the order... she probly was raised specially for the ceremony or something like that, and placed in the hands of caretakers. maybe the parents went with lucy and the deacon to work things out and try to resolve the "bree problem". and then Bree's dad realized he didn't want to be doing this and he went and told Bree information. What if Bree's mom shot her dad?! GASP! Although I doubt it. I dunno... I'm just free associating LG15 thoughts for y'all. Peace out playas... by eno on 2007-01-05 21:05:21 mommy...you missed all the drama...it was not fun by Jess on 2007-01-05 21:05:58 I think this is a good time to back up Marbella #81 and all of the other people who fought for the commenters tonight in the forums and say that if we don't want to be moderated or policed and we want the comments board to continue (although I think it probably should be moved to a separate page to help with download times), we need to be on our best behavior. This doesn't mean no fun, or no firsting or meeping, but we should at least refrain from 92-page-long posts and try to control the swearing so that younger people and those who don't have a taste for that sort of language can enjoy it here as well. I am sure the Creators have received a lot of nasty emails about the comments board tonight. If we want our commenting environment to be something that the Creators decide to keep when they inevitably rehaul the site, then we need to show them that we are fun-loving and passionately interested in the site yet also responsible and respectful. by krig on 2007-01-05 21:06:07 ok so this sucks because bree wont be posting for a while probly becuz she is all depressed :( by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-05 21:06:26 ...no not fun at all. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:07:17 WAIT!!!!!!!! I just thought of something... Going way back, old school lonelygirl, daniel talked about how he video taped bree at her religion summer camp play! NOW i would really like to see that tape, maybe they can put some clues in that that we hadent seen before! by cacacarkeys on 2007-01-05 21:07:38 Yes, the Creators are the actual Creators. That means they are here and that they do read our comments. by krig on 2007-01-05 21:07:58 did I miss something on the last post???? by mommy72900 on 2007-01-05 21:08:11 last video post I mean by mommy72900 on 2007-01-05 21:08:30 ok so that wasn't her real dad- fuck him, lets find out where her real parents are at haha. by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-05 21:09:38 yes you did mommy and i dont want to get into it right now... this real parents thing might ultimatly answer the question - why does the order want with her. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:10:54 krig (send note) Says: January 5th, 2007 at 9:07 pm Yes, the Creators are the actual Creators. That means they are here and that they do read our comments. Hi Creators! You are awesome! And we love you and we honor you and we cherish you... wait! this is sounding more and more like a wedding. But you are awesome. by deathstarpsycho on 2007-01-05 21:11:14 ok...all the stuff we predicted I don't think I saw this at all... ZING from left field... She looks like she's growing up though... by mwgraves on 2007-01-05 21:11:24 OK, this video was very well done. Bree's acting was so good that it made me wonder if she has survived the loss of a parent. I lost my mother in 2002. The morning after the funeral, my father told me some shocking news about her that changed my perception of life completely. So, as Bree was talking, I relived that panorama of emotions in my mind. Was she holding back tears or can she just not cry anymore? I don't read voices well, but her voice seemed flat and pained. I don't feel any need to pressure her to talk. Maybe Jonas and Daniel will see this and back off. She DOES need space to process. I did. She probably even needs therapy. I'm sure there was a reason why her dad told her she was adopted. Perhaps he sensed or somehow knew he was about to be killed for reconnecting with her. Perhaps Bree is angry at her mother because she didn't take the same risk. I don't know. I wonder if later on we will find out who her biological parents are or were. That's all my 1st impressions. I liked this a lot. by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:11:31 Nice language Danger..especially after the talk of moderators on the board. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2007-01-05 21:11:53 awww. this sucks. but i'm sad for her. I realllly wanna know the whole deal . idk bout you guys! by Raquel on 2007-01-05 21:12:07 Let me think.... who do we have around here who is old enough to be Bree's real father? Is it a coincidence that many of the fan-video makers just happen to be middle aged men? I say we line them all up for a DNA test and put 'em all on Maury! All except me. I'm not the father. I swear. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-05 21:12:24 #34 Deanna, I am so sorry, I can truly say I know how you feel, (3 times). Sending warm thoughts your way. I wish there was more I could do. by purplepassion on 2007-01-05 21:12:55 i think that was really good acting. it was convincing. but it still didnt really didnt give us an answer. just more questions! by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-05 21:13:13 #118,Cloud_Ax..VERY good point.. and I am really wondering if he gave her that info about the bio parents. If he DID explain why the order wants her, then I'm sure she has PLENTY to process. It's a shame she can't have a therapist, really!! by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:13:59 ApotheosisAZ (send note) Says: January 5th, 2007 at 9:12 pm Let me think…. who do we have around here who is old enough to be Bree’s real father? Is it a coincidence that many of the fan-video makers just happen to be middle aged men? I say we line them all up for a DNA test and put ‘em all on Maury! All except me. I’m not the father. I swear. OMG! LG422! He's old enough to be Bree's father! by deathstarpsycho on 2007-01-05 21:14:01 ApotheosisAZ i have the results right here. *opens papers* ApotheosisAZ... you... are NOT the father! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:16:18 *Wipes sweat from brow* Thanks cloud_ax! by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-05 21:18:28 i dont think bree and jonas are related. they dont look anything like each other. although stranger things have happened... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:18:29 #129 cloud My god, this is becoming Star Wars, isn't it?! by krig on 2007-01-05 21:18:44 now we still have to verify this other enveloppe * tear up big brown enveloppe* Cloud-ax... you are the father of Bree *Everybody stand and start to fight** I told you so **bleep** ***bleep** **bleep** !!!! LOL by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 21:19:13 Just watched it ... Pity there wasn't more info, but I guess there's a whole new turn to the story now. :) Interesting. by nylon on 2007-01-05 21:19:19 Bree, The bad news is that your dad isn't your real dad. The good news is that your real dad didn't just get shot. The bad news is that your real dad may have been dead for years. by lonelycrackerjack on 2007-01-05 21:19:20 i think that her and jonas are brother and sister. by missmelanie on 2007-01-05 21:20:11 I just had the thought that Jonas should be able to sympathize, because he lost his parents, too. Hey JPEG..WELCOME... I hate to tell you, but this place is like the Hotel California. Just TRY checking out!! This site is total crack! ApotheosisAZ.. That was BRILLIANTLY funny.. Is it LordGreystroke? Is it MoFun? Hmm.. #110...Krig-I second that motion. AMEN!! Eno, it NEVER occured to me that Bree's mom could have shot her dad. I think the woman we saw was bulkier and more Lucy-like, though. Bree's mom is pretty lithe and thin. I think if Bree's mom DID shoot her dad then Bree would have said more than, "I'm not talking to her." Alright, why no funeral scene? Why no police interviewing Bree or looking for Bree to interview her scene? by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:21:11 Sim7lizard WHAT!!!! NO!!!!!!! I dont remember... but... *shifty eyes* no its wrong... i want a re-test!!!!!!! wow jack i dont know which is more depressing... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:21:54 #136--Miss.Melanie--WOW. You COULD be right. If that is true, her parents would be dead, but Jonas could at least explain who they were. Hmm.... by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:22:44 Or... *cue dramatic music* Cassie is her sister!!! Or not? meep! by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-05 21:22:45 #135-LonelyCrackerJack.. Can we FRAME that comment? I LOVE it! by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:23:42 Marbella have we ever seen bree's mom?? by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:23:44 cloud are you willing to go through a lie detector test? by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 21:24:44 Sim7lizard uh..... uh..... sure lets do it! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:25:30 140 CANDLES FROM 15 COUNTRIES!!!!!!! IN MEMORY OF BREE'S DAD http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=LG15 by modelmotion on 2007-01-05 21:25:59 To #135 When i read your comment it went from "awww" to "ohh. true" to "awwwwwww" by Raquel on 2007-01-05 21:26:10 NEW VIDEO!!! Oh Thank GOd!!! FFFIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!111!!! *Salutes* *meep* OH, man, that's so much better :) by WatchingOne on 2007-01-05 21:26:24 Spiletta, #25 comment.. Impressively perceptive. You are the BEST (or one of the very best) examples of this: IT IS POSSIBLE FOR A PERSON TO POST A VERY INSIGHTFUL COMMENT, FOLLOWED BY BOTH **MEEP** AND FIRRSSTT!! Yes. It happens. I think what you are saying makes the most sense. Perhaps they adopted her just for the cult to use her, but her dad didn't know it and her mom did. THAT would explain Bree's sense of betrayal at her "now so-called" mom. I never sensed that they were close anyway. by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:26:31 (sitting in corner lost and confused) (loves cloud_ax) (loves the board) (drinking a Nehi) (waiting for new video) (singing songs from the guild in head) (loving life) by mommy72900 on 2007-01-05 21:26:43 Oh and #34, I went through something similar. SO traumatic. I send you love and prayers and appreciate you felt safe to share that here with us. by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:28:05 well cloud I happen to have the results right here let's check them!!! At the question did you had an Orange slurpee for lunch... You answer was no and that's the truth At the question Are you Bree's dad that is her real dad that did'nt got killed not the one that got killed coz you would'nt be in our studio today! Your Answer was no and that's a lie!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 21:28:31 Great job, Jessica. That couldn't have been an easy thing to do. by Moondoogle on 2007-01-05 21:30:42 #142, Cloud_Ax.. there's a page about her in the LGPedia. It shows her back and describes her as young looking, thin and petite. It also describes her personality as someone who loves to debate. I don't have the link. I hope you can find it. Somebody put the link on the last page, I believe. Like most people, I was wondering a LOT why Bree didn't mention her mother often. Then again, I have two degrees in psychology, so I was really analyzing it, but not posting my impressions. by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:30:53 Cloud_ax, I don't know what negative comments you ran into. I was over at the forum and swords and axes were drawn and they'll be mopping up blood over there for some time. I imagine it was the same on the comment side. When the site slows down, everyone's sword comes out eventually, but the a new video comes out, the site speeds up and all is well once more. by lonelycrackerjack on 2007-01-05 21:31:45 Comment #150 was for Deanna. Sorry, I left out your name. Good Night.. Marbella by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:31:56 Sim7lizard but i dont even understand the last question! "?" by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:32:05 #153 Marbella Here's the link you were suggesting to cloud, about Bree's mother: http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Bree%27s_mother by krig on 2007-01-05 21:33:35 I'm glad it wasn't her real father. They're obviously intending to make something out of that bit of the story ... her real parents. And we're all guessing that ties in with Jonas. Well done to the people who noticed how young her "dad" looked, and how Jonas questioned his identity in 'The Unthinkable'! by nylon on 2007-01-05 21:33:48 Oh.. before I go.. #154, lonelycrackerjack.. You HAVE got a point. It's that PVS.. Pre-Video Syndrome. It affects us all terribly. That is why we need MORE VIDEOS so people will not act like they want to kill each other!!! Creators, you've been doing an AWESOME job and we love you more than chocolate or grape nehi, but MORE OFTEN is suggested and recommended for our PVS symptoms. Thanks! by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:34:28 Cloud our expert think you might have some deep issue ! Maybe we should send you to a boot camp where you'll learn to respect your parents and stop dressing the way you do!!! LMAO!!! I love Maury!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 21:34:37 161st!! by soccergirl on 2007-01-05 21:35:29 #159 Marbella - You're right, 'more often'! But I think (and hope!) that 3 days is unusual. They did say they had upload problems. by nylon on 2007-01-05 21:35:38 jack it wasnt the slow down that i can deal with no prob. but being called out in the forums, which i dont usually ever read let alone post, was not cool. i had the link on the last video. i will tell them this... you want some, come get some. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:36:17 #163 - I missed all the music, cloud_ax. Doesn't sound very nice. :( I've kinda given up on the forums, so didn't see any of the exchanges there. The people there aren't as nice as on the comments pages. ;) by nylon on 2007-01-05 21:38:27 Right, well, it's 20 minutes to 5am on Saturday morning, and I'm beginning to feel tired... Need to find my cat and put him on the bed :) and then hit the hay. I've got my dose of Lonelycrack ... think I can meep now - sorry, er ... sleep, I think! Cyah, guys! x by nylon on 2007-01-05 21:40:51 Cool Video! Problems posting on last thread. Wonder if it was the sheer numbers??? LOL by kidlit on 2007-01-05 21:41:23 Does this mean we are going to start seeing lots of fan video's of people claiming to be Bree's dad or other relatives?! I'm your father...I'm your brother...I'm your father and your brother! lol. bad..bad...Sorry. by The Great Silence on 2007-01-05 21:44:23 cloud-ax did you saw 160 ? by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 21:44:59 Hmmm...Maybe Bree really is from Pluto. I wonder what her name was before it was Bree. Cassie? Anyway, I sure hope they don't go the soap opera route and make Jonas her brother. by Moondoogle on 2007-01-05 21:45:20 Guys let s be serious everyone here knows Jonas is Bree's mom and Daniel her dad!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 21:46:48 Brother.... real parents... unknown siblings... is Brother Bree's... brother?!?!?!?! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:46:55 The Great Silence, We already have had people in fan vids claiming to be her father, not her mother, brother or sister yet. by robtomorrow on 2007-01-05 21:47:11 yes i did Sim7lizard. and you can try to send me. you can try.... hehe.... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 21:48:39 HELP!! I just received an email about someone responding to my forum post. The last response was very upsetting to me and I am trying to get myself calmed down to go to bed. I'm afraid to look. I went there in the spirit of cooperation and that is NOT the spirit I felt in return. If any of you would like to go, read the page and post counterpoint as needed, the link is here. http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=130584#130584 I don't have the heart right now. Thanks, Marbella (Marble Loss-50%--but it WAS at 300%, so now it is 150%. I'm OK..No meepage needed:) by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:48:52 nylon ... when does jonas question the dad's identity? i dont remember that...??? by mareejaine8775 on 2007-01-05 21:50:00 I've sat here reading all the comments and forgot to post to be in the top 100 - oh well thank god for another video!!!!!!! by dwljk on 2007-01-05 21:50:25 Sim7Lizard, I forgot to tell you that I've been laughing at most of your comments. Also, I agree that it might be too "soap-opera-ish" if Bree and Jonas were brother and sister. It would be too nice and neat. Good Night All, Marble-Head by Marbella on 2007-01-05 21:50:39 well i call this a night!!! Now that doesn t mean you slacker go sleep!!! I wanna see 1000 comments tomorow when I wake up!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-05 21:52:31 #177 i dont think i would like it very much if they were brother and sister...i think it's be weird...and what are the odds that they found each other on the internet randomly...and p.s. did you notice when jonas first came around he kinda came out of the blue...there was no introduction for him like there was for bree's helper or gemma by mareejaine8775 on 2007-01-05 21:54:20 104....Jonas and Bree could be related but They can't be twins. Bree is 16 and he is over 18 cuz his nanny left when he was able to live on his own. by UglyDucksFly on 2007-01-05 21:55:14 Awwwwwww, poor Bree. Yay new video, and like always I still want more. I thought the same thing as you guys about Jonas being her brother. At this point, anything could happen. I wonder if she's not speaking to her "mom" because her "dad" told her that she betrayed her. Like maybe she was going to turn her in to the Order for the ceremony against her wishes. Remember, it was Bree's mom who got her dad into this whole religion mess to begin with. She's probably the more devout one in the family. cloud, I've been sleeping for the last several hours, so I don't know what went on here. I'm sorry that things got so bad that you felt you'd have to leave us. I'll go back and check out the old comments now. I've got yo back buddy. And thanks dwljk, for letting me know about the video. by elliemae on 2007-01-05 21:55:33 p.p.s. that last "p.s." was just a random note =] by mareejaine8775 on 2007-01-05 21:55:44 i knew it! by stargirl on 2007-01-05 21:58:42 Scary... by Jaime Bakulic on 2007-01-05 22:04:35 #185 . IM IN THE TOP 200!!! OH YEAH! by anm on 2007-01-05 22:05:19 oh wowwwwwwwww. by lets_steal_everythin on 2007-01-05 22:05:22 my last rant. i will never read the forums again. they want to use "Random" peoples names to show how "to illustrate that kind of crap being posted in video comments" without concidering other peoples feelings. well screw you. im a nice guy. most people are on my good side. i just like to have fun and hang out here with my pals. then there is the other side. it is not a good sight. not good at all. forum - welcome to the other side!!! if your not down with that ive got 2 words for ya... SUCK IT!!!!!! see ya all tomorrow! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 22:05:36 Degeneration X? by Moondoogle on 2007-01-05 22:09:29 cloud welcome back, full strength !!!!as for the vid, WTF...dad not dad, mom not arround mom, or no mom, or what mom, *gigggle*...wtf... at any rate the battle for page space has quieted, (thank the gods), and we have survived another few days without a video... but if dad was not dad, more likely mom was not mom, and qed, who the hell is Bree ? by NAXAN on 2007-01-05 22:10:18 DANG STRAIGHT Moondoogle!!!!! they are my idols... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 22:10:49 They're getting so much better!!!!..... by BreeWannaBe on 2007-01-05 22:10:52 Ya think you can tell us what to do Ya think you can tell us what to wear You think you're better Well you better get ready Bow to the masters Break it down! Degenerate into something fool We just got tired of doin' what ya told us to do That's a breaks boy, Yeahhhh Ah, That's a breaks little man, Break it down by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 22:17:34 Points of interest... The Creators read these posts... Did we want Bree to go to Jonas and be safe...Yes Did we want Bree and a Daniel love interest..Yes Did we want Bree's dad not to die...Yes It's like a sf book I remember ... Maybe vulcans hammer...i don't know...but as you wish for the remedy-you get something similar but not what you expected...yeah, that LG15... by NAXAN on 2007-01-05 22:18:45 #174 Marbella, I can see how upsetting that comment by Bethy was *rolls over purple and VERY shiny marble* Bethy accused us of not being able to see the forest for the trees. Isn't it funny how people accuse others of actions they're guilty of themselves? She states precisely what the board should be used for and how it should be moderated. Generally, HER WAY, and anyone other FEW people that share her point of view. Um, why do we have to do things YOUR way, Bethy? Has someone appointed you the senior know-it-all of board posting? Sorry, I don't want to see the forest through YOUR trees, Bethy darling. So me and my friends are just going to build a big old bonfire right here and dance around it as much as we want to because we think it's fun! You are morethan welcome to join in, or you can go ahead and stay in your little section of the forest where things can be as neat and tidy as you like it. OH, and I won't be coming over there or stating here how much I think your way is wrong and should be obliterated, either. Please pay us the same damn courtesy. by WatchingOne on 2007-01-05 22:19:27 Poor Bree doesnt know who she is. I feel for her. Hopefully I am still around to find out how this all ends! by angie78gg on 2007-01-05 22:21:42 Well, LordGreystoke422 does have hair color similar to Bree.... DNA test him! He's the father! I guess it could also be twjaniak. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-05 22:22:09 um... what? by stagegurl on 2007-01-05 22:24:28 wow. there's already almost 200 comments. I think this was one of the best videos. Jessica's acting has definitely improved. by JaneyLane on 2007-01-05 22:24:40 OK, this fighting is not really productive. I agree with jc gypsy who said maybe the comments could be linked to a second page after a certain number of comments. I'd really be sad if the comments were removed altogether. by elliemae on 2007-01-05 22:25:01 IMPORTANT -PLEASE READ>>> IMPORTANT -PLEASE READ>>> IMPORTANT -PLEASE READ>>> I would like to interject that this is not a battle here...there is no territory to win, no souls to capture, it is but a battle of wills... I have said before that those who are here posting will continue to post, regardless of perspective, regardless of shame, and regardless of glory... THE only solution is technology,and The Creators WILL respect that, Please, all concerned, refrain from 'bashing', 'rushes to judgement', and know that we are all learning to live together... *dam my fingers hurt* by NAXAN on 2007-01-05 22:30:14 elliemae - I agree. I think fighting is completely unproductive. At the same time, if we don't stand up against someone that's basically asking to SHUT THIS BOARD DOWN so everything can be like her forum, then we're just asking them to do it to us. by WatchingOne on 2007-01-05 22:30:34 Do any of you guys watch Desperate Housewives? This plot twist reminds me of season 1 where the boys parents weren't his real parents. So do you think Bree was willingly given up or was she kidnapped? by elliemae on 2007-01-05 22:31:29 see what happens when you take the crack away from the lonelycrackers? by dwljk on 2007-01-05 22:33:27 As far as this new plot twist goes, I didn't see that coming. I predict many hours of research into cult practices to figure out this little game. Or maybe this has more to do with the genetic engineering alluded to a few videos back. Do you think this cult is trying to create a specimen for some type of ceremony or to recapture the hidden genetic code? by WatchingOne on 2007-01-05 22:36:04 ok last refresh. JaneyLane i agree that her acting is better. it was very emotional and i even got a little choked up. and elliemae im sorry if it seems like im fighting. well i kind of am. if fighting for my right to exist and post here and defending myself from an attack on me by someone(s) on the forums (no names BECAUSE I dont roll like that). and i will never back down from defending myself!! and i do agree with the ideas of gypsy and gemmas flatmate 100%. i HAVE to get sleep good nite all. HAPPY TIME! :) by cloud_ax on 2007-01-05 22:36:38 OK so I was just now able to watch the video (I've been on the phone with boyf who simply doesn't understand the lonelycrack addiction heehee) and wow! Fantastic video... My only problem with it is that she says her parents aren't her "real" parents...if they are the ones who raised her, cared for her, and took care of her for the large majority of her life then they are in fact her REAL parents...maybe not biologically speaking, but biology isn't everything... by Jess on 2007-01-05 22:36:41 stagegurl, missed you ... by NAXAN on 2007-01-05 22:40:07 #194, WatchingOne.. Thanks. I was honestly so stunned by her response that all I could do was point out the themes and patterns and hope and pray that she was capable of some insight!! WHOO! Good Night All.. (This time, I really mean it!! .. haha.. "No more crack for you, young lady," by Marbella on 2007-01-05 22:44:33 watchingone, good point about the genetics since her dad was a scientist or something. cloud, I understand defending yourself. I just want to get back to the regular fun comments and put all of this anguish behind us. I really don't think the creators will take away the comment feature without looking into some other solutions first. jess, you are right of course. I know being adopted doesn't take away from all the years that you're adoptive parents loved and raised you. But it definitely threw her for a loop finding out this way. by elliemae on 2007-01-05 22:44:45 Is it just me, or does Bree sound like she's suicidal? I bet lucy's her real mother. I don't know why. by Determination on 2007-01-05 22:46:58 #206 If this hasn't been said in response to yours, but not necessarily it would make them her "real" parents. They would have to go through legal channels in order to actually be her "real" parents. Yet at the same time she never stated she was adopted or just in foster care, all that was said was they weren't her real parents. And whether legally or not they still aren't her real parents, only through the legal channels to they become her parents...still not making them her real ones. by MagicianX on 2007-01-05 22:48:04 elliemae, I understand completely that it threw her for a loop I guess it just bothered me the way she said it...mainly because ever since I can remember I have always hated when people asked me if I knew who my "real" parents are. I always tell them my real parents are the ones who took me in, raised me, and saw me as a blessing and an answer to prayer. I will always be grateful for biological parents, but to them I was a mistake. Ok mushy stuff over with!! Bring on the fun :-D by Jess on 2007-01-05 22:50:13 #210 Determination, she just suffered a major loss, that type of statement is actually very common, but no, I don't think she is suicidal. She just wants the pain to stop, and with time and the support of her friends (which at this stage she really doesn't want right now) the pain will not be so acute. by WatchingOne on 2007-01-05 22:55:06 Noooooo...Lucy better not be the mother. Argh! Nope...don't like it. Don't like it at all... by Moondoogle on 2007-01-05 22:55:11 Magician - I'm sure you meant well by your post, but I honestly found it terribly confusing lol My head is spinning now...I am confused...could someone help me out here?? I know English isn't everyone's first language who posts on here and wow I am impressed, but sometimes I think things may get lost in translation ;) OR you could very well be from an English speaking country and either it's just late and I'm not reading it properly or it was worded in an odd manner (odd to me mind you, everyone is different) by Jess on 2007-01-05 22:55:33 One last thing...not that this matters to anyone else other than me, but it's not a matter of "real" or "fake"...they aren't imaginary creatures she conjured up in her mind... by Jess on 2007-01-05 22:58:52 i bet lucy is the mother, i hate saying this by edu90 on 2007-01-05 22:59:12 jess, he's saying that if Bree wasn't legally adopted, then her parents aren't her real parents (technically speaking). by elliemae on 2007-01-05 22:59:23 Elliemae, the genetics thing was something I expanded on a few videos back ( I can't remember exactly where) Basically it involves cult beliefs dating back thousands of years about a "Divine Code" if you will, hidden inside human DNA. Yes, I know DNA was only discovered recently, but some ancient symbology and text actually references that. Again, I talked about it in detail a while ago - if you can find that post it might help. Crowley was a HUGE supporter of that belief, by the way. That's one of the reasons he took so many drugs. He believed he could "unlock" that particular area of his brain through chemistry. Maybe Bree's cult is taking another route... by WatchingOne on 2007-01-05 23:00:25 elliemae - yeah after I read it 3-4 more times I figured it out lol...I think I need to go to bed because...well just wow ;) by Jess on 2007-01-05 23:00:46 I understand what you are saying, Jess. My cousin was adopted, but it never made her any less my family. by elliemae on 2007-01-05 23:00:53 Jess, I see where you're coming from. I had three parents (long story) die and/or leave home before I was 12, and I remember going through a time where I wouldn't- and couldn't even talk- about it. But today, I let people know that the people who were there for me and took care of me and loved me were my parents. On a happier note: I think Jessica did a great job on this video! I'm just really excited over what will happen on the next video! G'nite all! by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-05 23:01:16 watching one, I'll go back and look for your posts. I don't know how I missed it. I usually try to keep up with all the comments, but lately there have been SO many. by elliemae on 2007-01-05 23:02:34 Anyways, off to bed for me... so happy to have a new video and to have all my friends here! Night all ! *meep*!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-01-05 23:03:33 WatchingOne - Maybe she's the supreme being like Leeloo in the Fifth Element heehee ;) by Jess on 2007-01-05 23:03:43 that was dumb good acting but dumb by sandy79 on 2007-01-05 23:04:29 I really did see how good her acting has gotten in this video. That was my first thought after watching the video. by elliemae on 2007-01-05 23:04:57 elliemae, if you're going looking, I'd start at "Undisclosed Location" I think it was somewhere around there. Night! by WatchingOne on 2007-01-05 23:06:37 hey all.. This has definitely been Jessica Rose's shining moment. Bree is.. stunned.. mourning.. angry.. confused.. scared.. and finally.. attempting to be determined. She IS her character.. I want to leave here for a few days to give her space, time and a definition of herself.. so she can have a plan for her 'new life'. Deanna - so sorry. It's gotta be rugged.. I wish I had something to say to help but I don't.. please just message if you need to talk.. Apo.. lmao, I've been saying that all along.... 65 - jpeg.. lol.. welcome to lonelycrack! hehe.. make yourself at home.. we all feel as you do, you're not alone. by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-05 23:06:47 mysilvertrumpet - I have what I call a rather twisted past...very confusing actually...I'm glad you see where i'm coming from (along with a few others - elliemae is great by the way ;)) I agree she really did do a fantastic job on this video! by Jess on 2007-01-05 23:07:08 Hmm, I think they've used too many plot ideas. Lonelygirl15 use to be believable but now it's not. I want Bree to be a real 17 year old not acting like she's 30. I'll still continue to watch however I’m getting more and more disappointed every new episode. by Pieh on 2007-01-05 23:07:26 I had a feeling her dad wasn't her real dad! I just wish I said so earlier, so I could have been all rightous and cocky about it. :-) by Paulo on 2007-01-05 23:09:28 Jess... get to sleep.. lomao, and Watching??.. Leeloo was my.. hmm.. third impression as well. night silver trumpet.. lol, I agree, this was her best acting job ever! 214- Moondoggle.. please.. BITE YOUR TONGUE!!! eww............. night Marble -head :) by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-05 23:12:53 Great performance from Jessica Rose. I am really impressed at her growth as an actress. by luckydog1826 on 2007-01-05 23:14:54 gypsy - I'm going to bed now...I should try to read long posts after taking Advil PM ;) I have now learned my lesson lol Night all! (ok well maybe...I'm sure I'll refresh a few more times lol) by Jess on 2007-01-05 23:15:22 I think Bree was born at the right time, under the correct alignment of the stars, planets, etc; then maybe she had some sort of mark (doesn't bree have a mole or birthmark on her arm?) or the order tested her as a baby somehow and they realized she was there chosen one, so they took her from her parents and gave her to a young couple in the order (maybe they could not have children of their own??) who they knew would do everything they were told and not question the order's motives, so they could make sure Bree was raised properly and would not resist doing the ceremony. How old is Jonas supposed to be? He could be her older brother maybe?? Maybe his parents went on their trip around the world and his mother became pregnant and the order took the baby and killed or kidnapped his parents so the baby would never be reported missing? by amarullis on 2007-01-05 23:15:46 it was #161 in undisclosed location, watching one. thanks, now I have something more to think about. Perhaps I'll venture into the forums tomorrow to find out more. by elliemae on 2007-01-05 23:19:09 OK... Well, here's the thing, Bree: you dragged Daniel and Jonas into this killer cult situation. So no matter what you're feeling, you've refused to fill them in for long enough. You want to get them killed too, go ahead and wrap yourself up in a protective cocoon and say nothing. That would be both brave and mature. Sorry, guys. I'm just a little over her reacting to things by sinking into self pity and shutting everyone out. Somebody once asked me why I read fantasy novels. "That's not very realistic. These heroes are ridiculously perfect," I've been told. My view is, I can sacrifice a touch of realism to dream of heroism and valor. So I'd rather see a heroine here who can rise above and be better than her situation, who isn't a victim. If I wanted to see people who react to strife mope and do nothing, I'd just stop reading/watching and pay attention to real life. I love the show. I'll keep watching. I just look forward to the day when Bree realizes the saying is true: "If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten." Bree's doing what she always does- NOTHING- and she's going to get what she always has. Guess what that is. by Lizard on 2007-01-05 23:21:07 thanks Jess, I think you're great too! :) now go to sleep. by elliemae on 2007-01-05 23:21:39 Now, are we sure that its Bree's "dad" that is dead and not Bree's biological dad??? This thing is so full of twists we cannot be sure.....can we? by modelmotion on 2007-01-05 23:22:35 To those who want Bree to go back to the old innocent cute Bree who proves science wrong and talks to her stuffed animals: It can't happen. Not now. In part this has become a "coming of age" story, and this Bree chick is growing up fast now. She may still talk to P. Monkey once in a while as she mourns. But they didn't "help her out... help her out" with this scenario. She'll mourn a while, then she has to take action to move on, or she will be forever lost. It appears that her mom and dad were selected by the Order to raise Bree specifically to be prepared for the ceremony. This was always my suspicion. This story would SUCK if she did another "innocent naive girl" proving science wrong video at this point. I still think there's room for her to put on the black leather ass-kickin cat suit and get in a judo fight with watchers. :-) by Paulo on 2007-01-05 23:24:16 hehe, Jess.. you're an important resource, we worry about you.. LIKE CLOUD!!.. hehe, clearing throat... amarullis - not sure about the Jonas part.. (my mind is still processing the her parents aren't part.. ) but your first paragraph is completely believable. I'm going to have to go back and look, but someone in the forums proposed a plan where a drug company was testing Bree with meds.. she was adopted by her 'family', and when she disappeared.. major cash was lost.. therefore, problem.. Yes, I will go back.. tomorrow.. find it and post it.. cause I think it's a way valid opinion! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-05 23:24:53 Oops, just looked into when Jonas' parents went missing. That was only 6 years ago. I guess my theory on his mother getting pregnant on the trip won't work. If he is her brother, then she was taken when he was very young and his parents never told him... by amarullis on 2007-01-05 23:33:41 great post Lizard - you're always so insightful. Being the adopted cousin elliemae was referring to, I can relate to how Bree is reacting. I haven't met a person who was adopted that doesn't feel as if they have this independant feeling about themselves, ever since they know or were young, no matter how the family life was growing up. This also goes along with the theme - lonelygirl by dwljk on 2007-01-05 23:36:27 Lizard... only thing I can say is when you lose a chunk of your life, thru death.. or worse, death and deception.. it takes a bit to figure out who 'you' really are. When my mom died.. I wasn't me nor anyone for a while. It took time to get a new footing, as it were. Don't think any less of Bree for needing time to figure things out. *popping open a Nehi* taking a long slurp.... amarullis - thank god jonas isn't her brother! and now.. night night to all friends. sleep well. *meep* tomorrow! :) by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-05 23:39:57 guess Bree doesn't practice Shiva...maybe it could help. Did anyone catch the thing about her dad and mid life crisis and reviewing his life - he must of known he was about to be shot - if he was, so to speak. Any ideas on that? by dwljk on 2007-01-05 23:48:10 Perhaps she is the child of the cult leader and a follower, like what happens in cults sometimes...and then was just given to a couple to raise. Perhaps a lot of the children are like that. Then certain ones go thru the ceremony..etc..kinda depending on her whatever[whatever they were interested in her for...whatever "gift" or personality or whatever they thought would make her a good for it] Sure is getting interesting! by lg15fan on 2007-01-05 23:48:41 Hey Everyone, Has anyone thought that maybe Bree's fake parents could be Jonas' real parents that disapeared at sea years ago? Sorry if this is a repeat,I didn't have time to read all the posts. by mhd76 on 2007-01-05 23:49:09 I'm going nuts. WHAT IS NEHI!!! I've never heard of it before! Is it.. evil.. or good? It's not orange from what I can gather... what if I accidently drink one and attract The Order or something?? by vegetarianham on 2007-01-05 23:50:18 grape nehi is a drink - like grape crush. comes in a bottle, and the lonelycracks around here were talking about it the other day - why I don't know. by dwljk on 2007-01-05 23:53:08 ____________________PLEASE READ_________ PLEASE READ_____________________________ ___________PLEASE READ__________________ DOES ANYONE REMEMBER MY COMMENTS??? Besides griping about where I live, I DID mention how suspicious it was that jonas was saying "is that really her father? are you sure that's him?" in the "the unthinkable happened" episode. I also mentioned that WE REALLY NEED TO GO BACK AND READ THE DEACONS POSTS BECAUSE THEY MENTIONED THINGS LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!! ANYWAY- I call that Jonas is her brother and/or her parents were really Jonas' parents......Gee, I am kind of confused myself. Good Night America Good Morning Great Britain, Europe, Asutralia by sabrine on 2007-01-05 23:56:56 apparently grape nehi is a type of soda, from a long time ago... by StarrySkyPixy on 2007-01-06 00:07:29 Amen Lizard! I too am so over her whiny evasive BS. Granted she's still a teenager, but her self-centeredness is infuriating. by yozz on 2007-01-06 00:09:36 i am writing this, to tell everybody that i will continue to type "strange" comments despite what anyone says...who's with me????!! by StarrySkyPixy on 2007-01-06 00:10:24 #202. I was thinking the same thing earlier in these comments . . . by krazeedie on 2007-01-06 00:11:06 I did'nt get the perception that Bree was adopted in the traditional sence of the word. Though, I guess her parents sort of "Adopted her" but that she was placed in their care. Bree, I know what it is like to morn the loss of a parent, especially a parent. My dad died of Cancer 5 years ago on Christmas eve (main reason why Christmas will never be the same) I became this completely differnt person, a person I did not like. Please Bree talking to your friends even if you explain to them that you just want them to listen and not say a damn word, that can really help you out. I wish I had geat friends like you had when my dad passed away... I still think that a quick trip to Bree's old summer camp might turn up some clues as to her background, and what exactly is happening with the order, her father, and everyone else involved! You know that most summer camps have year round caretakers, I'm sure that they might have some helpful insight! by Aidan on 2007-01-06 00:11:20 i agree with lizards comment...therefore, i need not write one of my own by StarrySkyPixy on 2007-01-06 00:12:18 you know what kind of fish you are, bree? a SELfish. lol. jk. i do wish she'd be little bit more open with the two people who are taking care of her now. she should try and see where they're coming from. by drbrenda on 2007-01-06 00:14:00 wtf does this mean shes not doing anymore videos???? by Rokr on 2007-01-06 00:17:09 i like this, i just kind of miss seeing bree in her old room by yoshi8710 on 2007-01-06 00:18:16 Hah. Go figure. A few days ago I thought to myself... 'I bet her parents aren't REALLY her parents at all'.... and for once, I actually picked up on a plot twist before it even happened. Anyhow. Yay. Good to see a Bree vid, loving the plot twist. Should keep things interesting. by Cee on 2007-01-06 00:20:35 I just finished having a Grape "Safeway Select Pop" .. it was delicious. Good thing I opted for the Grape instead of the Orange Pop by Aidan on 2007-01-06 00:26:54 i'm definitely seeing the theory that jonas is her brother... by slydergirl on 2007-01-06 00:27:45 I understand what she is feeling. I hate talking to people after someone I know has died because everyone always looks at you with that "aww, poor you" look on their face... and while you appreciate their concern, it's like there's no way to escape it. everyone expects you to break down at any moment, like it will be some dramatic scene from a movie. but it doesn't happen that way. you save your emotions for the funeral, or when you're alone or with the people you love to bawl your eyes out. and this has been a traumatic event for bree; she's probably still in the shock/denial phase. acceptance and mourning will come later, but not until she's ready. Jonas and Daniel: give her some space. do something with her that has nothing to do with her dad's death. although her life has changed dramatically, she can't have everything change at once. try to treat her the same way, so she knows that you haven't changed too. by katie on 2007-01-06 00:31:41 YEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! For one, new video FILLED with revelations. Well maybe "filled" isn't the right word, but damn that is interesting. And two, this is a "back-to-basics" kind of a video you know? Our LonelyGirl pouring her heart out to the thousands of nameless, faceless viewers on the internet. SUUUUUUU- wait for it.... WWEEEEEEEEEET!!! by Bones on 2007-01-06 00:33:01 That video took forever to finally load! :P Lizard #238: I agree with you as well. She is in an unthinkable circumstances, but I do think she owes Daniel (and then maybe if theres time) Jonas an explanation. I am also so tired of her not giving anything. I know it makes for suspense, but she is a less sympathetic character because of her secrecy. I hope that aspect of her character leads to a big bang in the plot or I'll be truly vexed. I mean, if she can talk to a camera, she can talk to them. They've dropped everything for her! I think Jessica Rose did a great job on this post! I do think the creators want us to believe Jonas is Bree's brother or relative..I wonder... by SuzyQS on 2007-01-06 00:33:55 aww that so sad..i hope she gets through this by blondeambition on 2007-01-06 00:35:49 duuuude: what if jonas's "dead parents" were bree's adopted parents? and that's why he was like, "are you SURE that's her father?!" maybe he was looking at his own father... who he maybe hasnt seen for years by eno on 2007-01-06 00:38:53 um not first, and not seeing why this is a good story development. I guess it's the beginning of a new arch, so we'll have to see where it goes. I'd love to see something not from Jonas, Daniel or Bree next. Gemma or someone on The Order's side would be nice. good acting BTW. by Raz on 2007-01-06 00:39:17 I must say that Bree is being a little childish about this. Not gonna talk to her mom? How can she even do that when there was a secret code/message drop used to get in touch with her dad? Plus, really her parents are her parents, genetic relation or not. Although..... she could have been kidnapped. OMG is that what happened? Well either way, this is going out to Bree: PUT YOUR HEAD DOWN AND JUST POWER THROUGH. by Bones on 2007-01-06 00:39:33 and whoever was the first one to say that we need to see the video from the summer camp is my hero. great idea! by eno on 2007-01-06 00:41:11 OMFG...What does it all mean?? by CherryFruitSnack on 2007-01-06 00:42:05 HOLY SHIZA!, Eno could be right. But why not raise them together? take Jonas with them. They have no qualmes about ruining one child's life, what's another child given erreprepable psychological damage? by Bones on 2007-01-06 00:42:43 137 Marbella: I know, it's not very plausible that bree's mom shot him... it was just a thought that popped into my head. hehe... sometimes just writing those down spark new ideas that are more accurate. by eno on 2007-01-06 00:43:43 You know Eno, it occurs to me that if Bree did infact go to summer camp, then she would know people "from the community", and yet her only friends have been Daniel, Jonas, and Gemma (That traitorious little hottie). by Bones on 2007-01-06 00:44:29 Perhaps Bree is just a social retard like myself. I'm with ya Bree! by Bones on 2007-01-06 00:46:37 Well, I've gotta go. If anyone reads anything from Dream, Perky, Gemma's Flatmates, or Pink something (can't remember her full handle name), Pleas tell them that Bones is back with his made attack!! Peace out Ma Fuggerz! by Bones on 2007-01-06 00:48:06 I hope Jonas IS NOT Bree's brother. It's been done a thousand times before, c'mon, its totally expected, why don't the creators suprise us already! I know the creators have imaginations, they need to start using them! There are so many wonderful theories that people come up with in the forums, the creators ALWAYS go with the most obvisous though, I want to be suprised!! by khjqueen on 2007-01-06 00:49:04 bones: haha! that's a good point though... why no friends from summer camp? maybe she's just kinda an introvert. or maybe the camp was such that you make friends over the summer that you lose touch with almost instantly by eno on 2007-01-06 00:49:55 it's a twist! by hella_samira on 2007-01-06 00:51:20 Yeah . . . who saw THAT coming? Not me -- talk about your twist! by Phoenician on 2007-01-06 00:53:11 291 no way! You think she would at least tear up at the thought of the guy who raised her. But no. Bree went Bla Bla Bla = I'm not saying anything until later! Pfft! What about her real parents? At least explain wether their dead or if she was just "adopted"... by s9991 on 2007-01-06 00:55:11 Thanks for those who agreed with my comment. :) I like knowing that someone out there can see things along the same lines. Helps me know I'm not (completely) crazy. And if I am, I always appreciate someone pointing that out for me, or showing me a different way to see things. gypsy, I know what you're saying about how the death of a loved one can affect you. One of my best friends died in a car accident when I was 19 and I was supposed to be living with her two months later once school started again. I'd never lost anyone close to me before, and I was in shock until I got to school and looked in her empty room. Then I lost it, and it took me a while to feel normal again. I do want her to grieve realistically. I don't expect her to just be like, "I'm so sad, but back to action!" I'd just like to see someone who is made of sterner stuff, who can grieve, but pour that grief into an outlet. She's spent so much time reacting to the bad things that happened to her by being completely aimless and doing very little, just relying on Daniel to steer her along or Jonas to be her nursemaid, people who she refuses to tell anything so they can't really do anything to help her. So it's the blind leading the blind, and they're meandering in circles. I'd really like to see that change. In the best books I've read (not necessarily just the fantasy ones, mind), the main character suffers, but gets fed up or just realizes that sitting around mourning is futile and pours their effort into something, even if that something doesn't work. The best one I've read (and re-read, like 20 times :P) was "The Dogs of Babel." When that guy's wife died in what might have been an accident, but might possibly have been a suicide, he decided to pour his grief into trying to find out what happened to her. As he was a professor of linguistics and the only witness was his dog, Lorelei, he spends his days trying to teach his dog to talk to tell him what happened. I know it sounds crazy, but I guess it shows how grief can undo you a bit, and it also beautifully integrated his action with the mourning (with the help of stunningly written flashbacks) for his wife. In any case, it's a bit of a tangent, but I have seen some excellent things happen when a character is in mourning, but finds some sort of an outlet for their pain that leads the reader (or watcher) on a journey with them. Whoa... that was long. *sheepish* Sorry. I've never quite learned how to make my point concisely. by Lizard on 2007-01-06 01:18:38 I leave this place for one night to go play poker with some co-workers and all hell breaks lose. I went to the forum. I'm guessing the argument comes down to: We should only post "relevant" comments on here. And only a select few decide what "relevant" is. Or we post what we like while passing the time waiting for a new video. Sure the page takes a while to load after a 1000+ comments but there are a million and one ways to fix that problem. I don't get it and frankly I don't care. I'll keep reading, posting and having fun until they take it away. Then I'll stop watching and stop clicking on the ads. I was actually going to donate money today to this thing. But I think I'll wait and see what happens first. by Joe on 2007-01-06 01:39:55 Ok, I'm going to go sit in a hot bath and try to drown out the world for a while. It's been a hard day. I lost a very expensive earring my grandmother gave me and I found out someone I love is just falling apart and taking others down with her. It's a long story and I don't want to clutter things up here, but I was tired to the depths of my soul by the time I signed on here and then I stumble into this whole forum users v. comments users mess. I tell you, I read a few pages of it and it just made me want to give up. This sometimes feels like the only place where things aren't hard or upsetting for me right now, and then all this stupid, petty drama crops up. I love you guys, though. Coming here makes it so much easier to just be silly and have fun and relax. When the studying is getting to me, or the drama in my family (which is in abundant supply now as always) or even when everything's fabulous and I just want to talk to some nice people, this is one of my favorite places to be. :) by Lizard on 2007-01-06 01:42:09 And now onto the video. I find it interesting that she reveals her parents are not her real parents but yet the title of the video is "My Dad said..." So while she knows that they're are not her biological parents. She still thinks of them as her parents. Or at least that is how she feels about dad, mom sounds like another issue. Another thing I find odd is about her mentioning her father's mid-life crisis. Unless I've missed something her father didn't start this mess. Bree made a choice between doing what the cult wanted (ie ceremony) or doing what Daniel wanted and questioning them and what they wanted her to do. All right, time for bed. Righ after I drink a Knee-high. Good Night All! FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Orange is Evil!!!! by Joe on 2007-01-06 01:54:33 We will not shut this board down. We are working on a variety of technical solutions to improve the look of the main page and the website performance. We are looking into hiring a programmer in the LA area to help us out. So... stay tuned! by The Creators on 2007-01-06 01:59:11 #254 StarrySkyPixy, You hereby have my permission to continue making "strange" comments. by lonelycrackerjack on 2007-01-06 02:07:03 Hey everyone. We apologize for the issues with the video comments. Honestly, we are honored that we have this kind of a problem... too many comments on the videos! Thanks for your dedication. Most of this is our problem. We need to buy more servers, collapse the comments so not all of them display simultaneously, etc. We are working on it. Right now we don't have a programmer so our hands are tied but that will change soon enough (P.S. We are looking to hire a GENIUS and PROFESSIONAL web programmer - HTML/AJAX/MySQL/PHP in the LA area). In the meantime please help us out: 1) No more fighting, no one is to blame here 2) If you want to "chat" please use the chat room 3) If you still want to comment on the videos... go ahead, post as much as you want... we'll fix the server issues soon enough 4) Make friends with your forum and video commenter associates. Forum folk... make user profiles on the main site! Video commenters... test the waters in the forum! Thank you all VERY much for your understanding! Miles/The Creators by The Creators on 2007-01-06 02:22:11 look im a regular reader, and semi-regular but often unnoticed poster. but this forum vs comments thing it getting out of hand so im gonna put my two cents worth in on the forums it is very clicky. if you arent in the group you will be ignored. also everything on the forums is spread out and structured. and to know what is going on you need to read every thread. its not a welcoming enviroment to enter when its already inhabited by thousands of users. while the comments can be clicky and long theyre all in one place, and theyre much more friendly and welcomming. we have trends and groups here, do the forums have the same community we do? also you can never find what you want there but here you can use a word search. and there its all moderated and things. everything has to be in the right place and said the right way to the right people. i dont want rules, i have fun here. and frankly i dont care how this argument turns out. the forum people cant do anything to stop us unless they get the creators to stop the comments. the creators wont stop the comments, theyd be insane to do so. where on the forums can you race to see whos first to see a video, which i consider to be enjoyable and fun. where on the forums can you speak real time to the people online with you? rather than waiting for them to finish looking at other threads. and to the people who are actually leaving over this, that is silly. it wont help anything, it lets the forum people know theyre winning. have you seen any of the forum users leaving over this? theyre not the ones who are going to loose something, we could. we need to be the ones to make a stand. and why should you let them ruin lonelygirl for you? they cant do a thing, it lies in the hands of the creators. leaving will help nothing just discourage those who are left. you should be supporting them. some of you are getting so angry with this argument but theres no need to be angry over their comments, they cant do a damn thing to us. by abbington12 on 2007-01-06 02:27:29 wow for timing thanks creators!!! and no more fighting, pleeeaaaase by abbington12 on 2007-01-06 02:38:19 well put, abbington. :) I'm out of the argument, anyway. The argument I was involved in was of a particularly futile species. Ok, I'm out of the bath and feeling better. Sorry to sound so gloomy, guys! Things really aren't so bad. I actually got really good grades in school (B+'s and A's) and I'm anticipating the return of my buddies from vacation soon. I just got in a mood, ya know? I still love you guys. ((commenters))And no, I'm not drunk. I'm just naturally affectionate. :P by Lizard on 2007-01-06 02:42:21 ======= also you can never find what you want there but here you can use a word search. ======= Forums has a search, too, you know. Just sayin' ===== i dont want rules, i have fun here. ==== Well, the Creators just said to take the chat to the chat room and leave comments for the videos. I'd say that's a couple of good rules. I guess there are some rules after all. by samara on 2007-01-06 02:45:52 hey abbington 12, i had been a forum reader and a board reader/commenter. as i had said before, i thought the chat room was the best place to truly be inane and silly, the forums were serious and on-topic, and the comment board seemed to be an area between those. i myself have been annoyed by the comments of others; some use crass language, some spam the board, some ask questions that were answered 30 posts ago (although at this point occasionally you can't blame a person coming in at post 1247), some just say "this was lame" every time... but the fact that the community here is my community remains so, and the fact that this format allows our community to function the way it does means we have to stay here. (or someplace like it) i like the forums too, i just don't participate because i never feel i have anything interesting enough or enlightening enough to point out. a lot of the people on the forums do have interesting things to say, and the archives are extremely useful, and ARG people are usually very friendly. this episode was saddening because there was a lot of ridicule going on in the forums re: the comment board before any of us even knew it. because of one person, a self-admitted (and possibly strangely proud of it?) b-word, i left. but your argument carries a lot of weight, and then before you there was lonelycrackerjack, who really inspires me because he is such a great person and a wonderful recent addition to the community, and then before that there were the Creators' posts, which truly won me over. Creators, I love you. i had never intended to stop watching, i just intended to go to revver when i got my new-vid emails and check you-tube for any tachyon or opaphid-related videos. i had also intended to continue giving you monetary support. i wasn't going to leave you, i was only going to leave the board. but if leaving the board is in a way leaving you, i won't go. there really isn't an argument; both "sides" agree- and the Creators are fixing it, like we knew they would. the animosity that was shown for the board and then denied ever having been shown was depressing. we were told to stand behind our goofy comments; but we were not given that back when insults were abandoned as having never been insulting. one person vs. all the board and the rest of the forum... the scales tip towards staying with the site. besides we have to prove them wrong, right? ;) by mary on 2007-01-06 02:52:50 My guess is that Bree's genetic parents gave them to Bree's Dad and Mom to raise in preperation for the ceremony. Either by choice or otherwise, clearly the order gets what they want. Sounds like Bree's whole life led up to that ceremony. (and quite possibly would have ended with it.) Shame for the order Bree actually found someone who cared about her outside the circle to throw a monkey wrench in their plans. All I can say about Bree's dad is real parents or not they were willing to look past the order, stand up to the order in the end and keep Bree safe from them, in her fathers case even though it cost him his life. Don't know what Bree isn't telling us about her mother but her father clearly loved her very much. by DanielP on 2007-01-06 02:54:10 lizard, hey, i was also in a mood (and deathly ill, going on day 7). the Creators make me swoon, though. you are also totally correct as far as taking a bath goes. that's a great way to work out some emotional kinks. i'm glad to see you back, by mary on 2007-01-06 02:58:28 Here is a note from the creators re my idea for the comments section to have a seperate area from the front page so to keep the peace between the commenters and the forumers i.e. the front page just having the video and then a link to "comments". (I suggested it on the last video comments board and after it got support I sent the note) From: the-creators To: gemmas-flatmate Subject: RE: idea - please read Date sent: 2007-01-06 01:56:51 Date read: 2007-01-06 02:53:06 Note: That’s not a bad idea, thanks. We’re working on something like that to improve the comments on the front page. Thanks! Hopefuly things will all be sorted out soon - there is room for everyone here at LG! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 02:59:58 YES, except that it's not like her Dad just died.. He was murdered by the order! Bree should consider that she, Daniel, or Jonas (especially her) could be next! by Jim on 2007-01-06 03:08:29 I am shocked about Brees parents not being her real folks - was she adopted? Or kidnapped by some weird Order people? Brees parents actions didnt appear to be the actions of Order extremists tho..they were the ones who backed Bree when she didnt want to do the ceremony... Is Gemma going to turn out to be a relative??? by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 03:12:17 You guys, they weren't trying to get rid of comments. I hope you see that. Honestly, 2000++ comments really is too much when you're *meep*ing and saluting the general. They really have some legitimate concerns and The Creators seem to agree. It wouldn't hurt to be a smidge more responsible. Comment on the videos and head into the chat room to talk. Just post a note here that you're all in chat. What's the harm in that? Somebody can keep a transcript that you PM around. Just do that until The Creators get the server fixed and come up with a better solution for comments. Part of being happy and having fun is knowing when you go too far. by samara on 2007-01-06 03:13:27 Is Gemma going to turn out to be a relative??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH- That'd be so funny! What if Gemma actually was her cousin or her long lost mother that sailed across the oceans and abandoned her child because she couldn't take care of it...and the father might've been someone crazy LIKE DANIEL! YIKES. Most likely not, unless Daniel and Gemma have been going Botox because I surely can't see any wrinkles. She's sorta EMO. Just must agree that if you have a big problem you have to talk about with therapists or counsellors or whatsomething. by Lupus on 2007-01-06 03:22:57 so apparently my post at 296 got cut off.... anyway, GF, are we sure gemma isn't dead? i don't think anyone we already know is going to be related to bree. if we meet any blood relatives of hers, they will have to be introduced later. by mary on 2007-01-06 03:26:18 she's saying that her dad recently learned something, the "truth," which made him have to look at his life from a totally new perspective. apparently he was lulled into having faith that he was making the right decisions, but has recently learned some "truth" that gave him a mid-life crisis. i wonder what ms. niverse has to do with this "truth" hmmm? and the order killed him because he knew this truth and was telling it to bree... i think danielp's comment should also be kept in mind- clearly mr. niverse loved his daugther, or "daughter," whatever, the baby girl he raised, so much so that he had a special code for emergencies and ended up not only risking but giving his life for her (in some way which we aren't sure of yet.) by mary on 2007-01-06 03:29:57 bree said her mom usually took her side when her parents had to discuss something bree wanted or did or whatever. but when you think about bree, young bree, she probably didn't have too many extremely controversial desires or actions. she seems like she was a mostly introverted outdoorsy person, and there is little her parents would have had to discuss about her. it was probably things like "bree ruined her hiking boots and wants another pair" and "well she should have to do something to earn them!" (mr. niverse) and "oh cmon just buy her a pair" (ms. niverse, who, like many mothers, was soft on her daughter.) but when bree wanted to go to a party- her first party- with daniel, someone they know well enough to know he's trustworthy and going to take care of her, she says no and takes her dad's side. what does this mean? who knows? by mary on 2007-01-06 03:36:27 and we know that her father would check on her and daniel when they were watching movies, that her father asked daniel to videotape a cultish play (so he wans't *too* paranoid about it), and that he made sure to spend one night a week hanging out with her, sometimes watching movies (that her mother disapproved of). we also know that her mother basically caught her dad with her fiestiness- he was smitten like a kitten the poor mustard! so we've got mr. niverse interacting with braniel a lot, but ms. niverse not really being mentioned... except that she was the type to burst into other people's conversations and call them both wrong, or to stand up and yell at a professor about stringing men up like dogs (wtf?), and that she kinda owned mr. niverse. by mary on 2007-01-06 03:42:12 when ms. niverse meets mr. niverse during the play she says the two foolish intellectuals aren't seeing the point of the play, that instead of talking about this theoretical matter (free will vs. determanism/fatalism (which was what her dad believed (how ironic right))), they ought to be *doing* something. so she wasn't into intellectualism. she was into action. when she meets "gemma's" mom it is in a philosophy class where she says about david hume that anyone who wanted to "thwart the right of an individual should be put down to sleep, like a dog" (which incidentally frightened me. dog hater?) nowww hume said a LOT, so i'm not sure what she was referring to, which "right" was being "thwarted" but since gemma says "athiest philosopher" i'm thinking the athiest bit is important. (and i still think her reaction to put the guy to sleep like a dog (!?!?!?) is creepy. why not, like, slap his hand with a ruler, crazy lady?) by mary on 2007-01-06 03:54:09 * Nice plot twist, didnt see that one coming * I wonder if Bree was grabbed as a baby. "face on a milk carton" style (like the book) * I REALLY hope we dont have a week's worth of "Bree is sulking" videos. Keep the plot rolling here! * Give us more puzzles!!! Id like to see the main videos more like the ARGs by Gidget on 2007-01-06 04:06:01 FFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!11!! *meep* Oh, this video raises a lot of questions. Most have been asked already: Was it a legal adoption? Was Bree kidnapped? Or did her parents give her up? Was the only purpose why Bree has been raised by someone in the Order the ceremony? What makes Bree so special? What's with the DNA-stuff? What did her non-mom do that Bree doesn't want to talk to her? Who are Bree's real parents? Also, I wanted to thank the Creators for reassuring us that the comment board won't be closed. Thank you! I know I've said it before, but I got hooked on the board (and thus LG15.com) because I instantly felt welcome on the board and truly enjoyed all the silly jokes. I love it here and I love you people here, regardless of whether we were ever supposed to become a community or not. (I wish there was a little "heart" emoticon!) by Dream on 2007-01-06 04:14:12 woah, i passed out last night, and when i wake up, new vid :| ok so...i know you guys all want some real plot development and all that kind of stuff but understand this, the creators are trying to give to the show a realistic look, and i dont think that, when you find out that the persons that you called all your life mom & dad, arent actually your mom & dad, and one of them dies (he wasnt her real dad but there was a emotional connection), a person doesnt feel exactly like talking and stuff. and i understand that thing about her own space to think and all that, i know they're only trying to help, but sometimes a person really needs a time alone to think about all the stuff that is running through his/her mind. going to reboot the crappy computer, brb jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 04:21:40 Ok interesting, we need to know if she has any memories of early childhood... i never saw this coming, i think she will go on a search for her real family, she must have some clue off her dad as to who or where they are. what has her mum done? ok im going to go read all the comments, brb. by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 04:22:51 uberfirstsoxorsaaaaaaaahfirstdidalydooo :O!!!! last night :( : wow thats the first time I've ever said first. Anyway I would like to apologize for blowing up a little last night. Everyone knows what was said so no need to repeat... and its all in the forum anyway. I hope this all gets resolved soon so we can continue to watch LG15 happily together. I for one can say I've made a few friends here and that would be horrible to throw away just because of a comment/forum fued :p Anyway there are way to many people to name but I would like to thank all of my commenting friends for support last night and for standing up in what you believe in. NOW In relevence to this video: WOW lol That was shocking to me I don't know about anyone else... and I think she did a good acting job in this one because shes kinda neutral looking like yeah everythings crap but so much has happend already to me :( If anyone cares here: Well because of all the feuding and stuff I'm most likely going to stay off the commenting/forums for a while till everything gets cleared up. Actually I have a busy weekend as well so I won't be back till monday or later. by MysticShadow724 on 2007-01-06 04:26:58 108- nylon, what uni r u at? im at huddersfield, but im still at home in wigan at the minute. Im loving everyones ideas on the video....im up to comment 109. keep reading, keep reading! by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 04:28:30 #300 Samara: Very true. Maybe it would be a solution to put only the videos here, with a link to the page where theories can be discussed, to not make the page slower as the amount of posts grow. Slow-chatting as is done here quite often is indeed something that is better separated from this theories-page. This is not only my personal feeling, but also something I have seen several complaints about on these comment pages. Why not make a separate part of the forum exclusively for this? by anironminuial on 2007-01-06 04:38:38 WOW. I like this video. by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-06 05:02:04 Holy Crap. I just watched the Please Watch Bree response video. LMAO! Well done, dude. by dogger on 2007-01-06 05:24:14 omg that guy from the "please watch bree" video...such a jerk -.- jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 05:37:05 omg i was starting to wonder how he would pull that off if he was gonna be fanfic, that was meeeeaaaaan :'( hes bringing all the grief back *runs to cry* by abbington12 on 2007-01-06 06:02:41 Wow I feel like I've been away too longgg...only a few days haha. Well, I need to watch this.. by Maddie on 2007-01-06 06:14:31 I gotta say that if I were Daniel or Jonas I would want to know the whole story for this one simple reason: The people after Bree shoot people! I don't think I'd be like: "Bree are you ok?, sorry about your dad, do you need some space?" I'd be more like: "WTF? who are these crazy people!, tell me everything! we gotta get out of this house, out of this state, out of the country, go live in the woods!, get me some ammo!" By the way she really looks like she's been crying for days! How did they do that? by noreaster on 2007-01-06 06:21:02 This is a long post for me but please read and leave comments on my thoughts. Let's show the "forum people" that the homepage can have dialogue. I'm worried that the "firsts" and "meeps" and orange slurpie discussions could disappear from the homepage. The song parodies recently have been fun too. Not that I include myself often, but cloud, marbella, gemma's flatmate, xdangerdoomx, you make the homepage fun. if it starts to be censored, i'll probably lose my interest in the series. sorry, that whole free speech ideal... it gets me down when people take it away... i know i left out a lot of the friends of the homepage, but not intentionally. ON TO THE VIDEO COMMENTS... I feel that this is a bigger cop out than Time's Person of the Year 2006 or that season of Dallas that was just a dream... well, it's at least the biggest cop out of this series. Have a horrific event and then make it not really mean that much. Bree's dad's dead, but it really wasn't her dad, so it's better now. Just watch, now Bree and Jonas will turn out to be brother and sister. The order wil continue to pursue Bree while she finds out who her real parents are. Let me guess. Bree was kidnapped off the coast of of New Zealand... taken from her parents while they we sailing. And for Bree to say, "I'm not ready to talk about it," and, "I have to figure things out," is just a cheap attempt by the writers to avoid addressing an important part of the story. Either because they don't know what to have Bree say, or they don't want to tie themselves down to only one possibility yet. But they shouldn't insult our intelligence. Think about it. You've just found out that your whole life is a lie. Your mom is now a total bizzitch and your dad was shot in the back by people who are after you. Not time to be keeping important information that could help you survive a secret. Dumb reasoning. An intelligent 16 year old girl wouldn't reason this way. Well, Bree was smart until she left home. Now it seems the creators turned her into a dumb naive teen. Odd transformation. It's like she took a stupid pill. I'm starting to be convinced that there is no longer a story arc. This story has not been laid out. The writers just want to keep it going so we're left with... My parents weren't really my parents. My dad was killed (show me the obit or article in the newspaper showing his body found). As the writers scramble for interesting places to go they've lost track of the original start to finish conceived. It may not seem important to the general public, but just try writing a story. You usually need somewhat firm, fresh idea for the story arc to write a "good" story. Just writing from paragraph one to the end thinking it up as you go along always leaves your writing with loose ends, parts that conflict with each other, and the ending never comes out right, not to mention that your story will be filled with a lot of cliche info... This is what is happening to this series. It got bigger than the creators ever thought it would and they're trying to keep their 15 mins of fame alive by abandoning the story arc. Doomed to failure if they truly want the series to be know as well written. I'm not sure if they do anymore though. Just keep it going seems to be the feeling I'm getting from each video. Look at the last video. We had three days of cheesy video editing to hold us over. I've been watching lonelygirl15 since the first vid (before people even thought it was fake). I like the series, but honestly it may be a good idea to wrap things up using the original story arc and start something fresh. Unfortunately the premise isn't real to me anymore as we've got three characters now who could post videos and we still only get a few each week. If these were real video blogs, each character would post a video every day or every few days. YouTube usage seems to be on random accounts now. This could not have been in the creator's plan or the writers' original arc. Oh well, there's more, but if this post is any longer no one will read it. Let me know if you think my ideas are justified... by wastinghope on 2007-01-06 06:21:02 Okay... so is she ADOPTED? Or is she STOLEN? And is she not talking to her mom because she BETRAYED her? or because she's DEAD? Those are my questions... and are we going to hear more about the order? by NancyCz on 2007-01-06 06:23:42 i dont get the 'please watch bree response'. Sounded like he was talking into a tin can. by voyboy on 2007-01-06 06:29:26 cloud_ax called me right, I couldn't stay away... as far as the comment-board dispute goes, I would like to make a few final points now that my temper has simmered down. a) despite what this medium was intended to be, it has become what we see. That's it, plain and simple. Work with what you have - which the Creators clearly understand - or get over it, because "intent" means next to nothing. There are (at least!) dozens of regular posters here, dozens more casual observers, and thousands more who have registered. Obviously, this arena appeals to a broad audience that is not reached in the Forum. So, regardless of its original intent, the comments page has become an outlet for fans. b) the Chat function is not a practical solution. Those most vocal against the use of the comments boards completely ignore the fact that there is uncensored, unabridged preservation of conversations here which the GLOBAL audience relies upon to keep up-to-date. Is it annoying when someone posts "NEW VIDEO" 9000 times? Of course. But relegating us away to chat means that community members from around the world miss out on the successes and disappointments of our friends and opportunities to provide a support system because - despite our addiction - we do need to sleep, sometimes. c) most of us do not want anything to do with the Forum. As I understand it, there are already miscellaneous threads for fun and gibberish. However, if you dare make a post that relates to the story in the "fun" area, your post is going to be "moderated" and moved to another area. Don't bother starting a new thread because you were wrong there, too. And God forbid you attempt to post about two or more topics in the same thread! And if the moderator doesn't like what you have to say... it's gone forever. The comment boards, on the other hand, put everything in one place - no need to search fruitlessly for the right "thread", no need to know a secret knock and code word to fit in. As I said before... this is what the comment board has become, so it has to be dealt with for what it is, not what it was intended to be. d) separating a "serious" comments page from a "chat" comments page is the same as sending us to the forum. It is unnecessarily complicated and defeats the entire purpose... then Forum people will bitch because we talk about serious stuff in the fun page and now they have to read that, too. We realize we aren't going to win in an argument against certain vocal forum members... but they aren't going to win here, either. The compromise - that the bulk of the comments be moved to another page WITHOUT moderation - is a respectable one. The forum has all of the answers anyway... they only read the comments so they have something to complain about. We're the kids from "across the tracks." The fact of the matter is, we just want to be left alone. Put the comments page somewhere besides the homepage, just let us know where it has gone. We don't want moderators because, except for the blatantly insulting and inappropriate - of which we take care largely on our own, we don't really care about the "firsting", the *meeping*, and the other fits of randomness that occur here. It was suggested on the forums that we are being selfish and stubborn, and that our actions here on the comment board are an issue because we are taking up unnecessary bandwidth - maybe, maybe not, I'm not a techie and I don't really understand ralfthedog's fix - but we ARE selfish and stubborn in that we don't operate in an authoritarian environment and we refuse to allow our community to become such. So, to my friends and fellow Lonelycracks here at the comment boards, I love you guys and you are an important part of why I come back to this site (although all this grape Nehi and bundt cake is making me fat). To the "newbies" and "lurkers" that posted your opinions here and at the forum... thank you! We sincerely hope you feel welcome to participate any time, not just during moments of dissention. Bones, welcome back buddy! You picked a great time for it. Bring a weapon and join the LG15 Defense Force! (talk to cloud_ax about joining). by Perky on 2007-01-06 06:30:43 Haha...I just had a thought. One that could never be true...well I don't think so anyway.. Jonas's parents went saaailing and then uh...they left and THEY stole Bree and killed Bree's parents o.o. No you see why I say it can't be true? I'm just desperate to figure out whats going on. by Maddie on 2007-01-06 06:34:05 what the fuck by scootertechno on 2007-01-06 06:43:31 no it 1:45 pm ere in ireland by scootertechno on 2007-01-06 06:44:34 It's all too Rosemary's Baby! Bree is the devil child adopted to devil parents. Don't you see?? by lovekjam on 2007-01-06 06:47:40 Remember Bree's video saying that she was just imagining that the numbers to Powell's Dry Cleaners would lead to something when she actually knew it did. Maybe she's throwing the Order off by saying that she doesn't want to talk about it when in fact she's already divulged everything to Daniel and Jonas. by JoJo on 2007-01-06 07:05:58 MADDIE!!!!! YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!! XD by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-06 07:09:59 I also think that Jonas recognized the guy that was supposed to be Bree's dad. I wonder if "Bree's Dad" had anything to do with Jonas' parents ending up missing. by JoJo on 2007-01-06 07:10:20 I still say that the three of them need to identify the Achilles heel of the Order and find a way to bring them down. by JoJo on 2007-01-06 07:18:07 Am i allowed to post here? :-) On the forum / videocommenter debate, i think its funny that some of you seem to think that the level of discussion at the forums is much higher than here. It's mostly not, its just divided into differnt boards. Those of us who were the original phorum people who migrated to anchor cove (http://alissabrooke.proboards56.com) back in early september dont always feel we belong at the forums anymore either. So it goes. But it looks like the Creators want to work on the problem. I think collapsible comments are the best solution. Wouldn't also make sense to have moderators among the video commenter regulars to handle the infamous 92 page "new video" type of posts? Cheers, milowent by milowent on 2007-01-06 07:19:52 332 milowent, you are very welcome to post here! I'll take a look at Anchor Cove, now that you mentioned it. :) For the 92 pages comments I'd rather have a software solution than moderation. Make it impossible to post more than e.g. 50 lines in one go. 323 Perky, as usual we think alike. Thank you for speaking my mind. And thank you for being back. Wouldn't be the same without you. 277 Bones, welcome back mate! It's good to see you around full force again! As Perky said, grab your weapon and join the defense force! We need our very own flirty Canuck in it! by Dream on 2007-01-06 07:42:45 arrrgggghhhhh I'm out. lol by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-06 07:50:39 #332 milowent. everyone is allowed to post here. and its not about the "discussion being much highter* its that we tend to get a nasty reception when we *dare* post. collapsible comments are a good idea...i like the divided-into-pages idea best, myself *!* by Owned on 2007-01-06 08:06:07 well the fact that her "mom and dad" aren't her mom and dad didn't really shock me. but the fact that she was being so bi**hy did. i understand she's hurting but instead of telling us she needs her space why does she go tell the people that aren't giving it to her. She should of told us more information even if she didn't want to talk. UMMM maybe like the fact of is she still going to be in danger.!!! What inside info did her dad give her. Give us the skinny and make us debate so we can get this story line moving right along. by Stars on 2007-01-06 08:06:16 hi guys im back :) ive been reading a bit of the forum debate...hmmmm...i wasnt very happy, well actually i was a bit distraught. some of the forum users are nice but some are just plain horrid and i dont plan to use the forums at all. *gets slingshot and mouldy cheese ready* I hope we dont have another attack today! good video, i have already commented but not been able to read what anyone has said...any new developments? by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 08:10:09 Morning all! Perky, Lizard, Krig, lonelyjack, Mystic -thank you all. ralf - as previously stated.. all homage will be yours if you can solve this deliemma! Lizard - sorry to hear of bad news.. hope you're feeling better today. wingless - laters!! Bones & Maddie - welcome back, yeah! voy - on my end, that vid had major static.. and the ending was less pleasant... so... not going to waste any more words on that. Creators - thank you for your concern, support and understanding. *Welcome all new posters and lurkers, you know who you are.. we're very glad to have you!* wastinghope..It may be that, due to the holidays, both site admins and actors weren't available. I think the next few videos will show if the storyline really is random or just following a long-term pattern we haven't recognized yet. noreaster - not only does she LOOK as if she's been crying for days.. she sounds it, as well... maybe she's got a touch of the flu plaguing everyone right now, if so.. additional kudos to the Creators.. you definitely used her sore throat for greatest impact! As to why she doesn't wish to speak to her 'Mother' - Her 'Father' just went thru his crisis and relayed info to her.. so apparently he just found out something her 'Mom' was aware of all along.. ? by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-06 08:13:15 i know i know! bree's mom is tachyon and bree's dad is brother! :D because the order cant get tachyon and brother themselves, they are trying to get bree, because she's weaker! :P just jkg xD jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 08:16:21 great idea jo! that would be awesome! i like tachy and brother and it makes sense that they could track her down and help! Gypsy...do i get a hello :) :) by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 08:19:12 just noticed now that the LGPedia is with a new look, it looks sweet! #340 sure it would be great but...tachy and bro are part of the ARG :\ #338 gypsy, i want a hello too :( (just joking xD) jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 08:23:17 heya sarah! There are a lot of really sweet people there, I promise. You know we get random rejects in here.. the same applies everywhere, I guess. ok.. the seriousness and upset gave me a migraine last night.. Lizard, I'm with you, it's unsettling, to say the least, to come to the place you've always found laughter and friends and find instead so much.. controversy. Now, however.. no matter how much I try... there's something I just can't get out of my head.. so here it is.. 'There's a plaaaaaace for us.. Somewhere a plaaaaaace for us.. peace and quiet and open air.. wait for us somewhere...' by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-06 08:23:48 Has anyone seen the jayusmc1986 comment vid? thoughts? by Owned on 2007-01-06 08:24:16 lolol, heya Jo! Owned.. bad audio and even worse plot. He had something until the ending.. that was just rude.(IMHO) by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-06 08:28:37 thanx gypsy ;) nice song too... 341 - oh darn it, so they arent canon, or is canon different to arg? 343 - i started watching it yesterday but didnt finish, i will watch it now, brb by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 08:29:46 "...and if feeling the way that I'm feeling is my only option, then, I don't want to feel anything." bree dont do anything crazy plz :| but gosh, i know exactly what she's talking about, when i'm sad, or mad or anything like that, my friends are always asking "do you wanna talk?" and stuff like that, i know that they are only trying to help, but, like the wise bree said "Besides, no amount of talking is going to make the hurt any less." damn right... i know what is like when someone needs his/her own space, some ppl just cant understand it. the creators are trying to make this a realistic thing, and in that perspective, good work creators, strong work ;) and good work jess, great act (i know that she doesnt read this but oh well, i'll say it to her in myspace :P) sure, it didnt reveal much that contributes to the story development but, that's the way the reality is ;) (gosh, long post :S) jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 08:31:09 344= i cant even understand what he says in the end... by Owned on 2007-01-06 08:33:35 #345 canon are the "official" characters the characters of the ARG (Alternative Reality Game) are fan-based :S jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 08:34:17 i tried to read all of the comments, but then started getting pissed at the forum stuff...so here's what i think...one, get a better connection, forumers; or two, stop whining like a baby! lord forbid you wait 20+ seconds for a page to load just because people are screaming NEW VIDEO NEW VIDEO NEW VIDEO! just shhh because the bitching makes you sound like a child. heard of patience? test it out. siiigh, on to more important things... ...so anyone ever read the book "Face on the Milk Carton"? It's about this girl who one day sees her picture (as a child) on a milk carton, and cannot figure out why. Turns out her "parents" are actually her grandparents, and her biological parents were in a cult, so her grandparents took her away for her safety, and now her biological parents want her back because they left the cult. It's a stretch, but it could be Bree's situation, only reversed...or something or other. And what are the chances of Jonas, someone Bree met over the net, being her brother? I don't think it's absolutely plausible. I think she was kidnapped or something. I don't know. I'm really confused - if she's going to make a statement, finish the information. I understand they're trying to make her seem like a real person here, but she just came off as bitchy. Ok, done with my rant ta-ta! by mb114 on 2007-01-06 08:34:21 Sarah - Tachy and Bro are both. They're canon cause they've been acknowleged as being part of the storyline by the Creators, and ARG cause they leave clues, etc for people to figure out and find r/t. Jo - Tachy's too young to be Bree's Mom, but if she's adopted, who knows? They might be sisters for all we know! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-06 08:34:27 I would like the Tachyon/Brother arg to become immersed in the plot. they are kinda there now, but it would be SUPER cool... by Owned on 2007-01-06 08:36:01 Hi all! Going to comment to the video here! First thing, she says something about her dad just finding something out and that "His mid-life crisis is now her early-teen crisis." I think he was in the dark about Bree not being his daughter. Big breath...here it goes: The Ceremony: Anyone read "Mysts of Avalon?" I'm thinking the ceremony is something similar to the one that took place in this book at Beltane. I think this ceremony is for two young members of the order to create a new member. I think Bree was getting injected with some type of hormone/fertility drug and taking pre-natel vitamins/iron pills. The diet? I'm still confused about that one though, maybe to control her in eating healthy foods in order to concieve a healty baby? Bree's mom: In this ceremony situation above, I think two older parents are chosen to raise the child concieved in this ceremony as their own. I think Bree's parents were chosen to do this. Bree was concieved during one of these ceremonies and now this "blood-line" has to continue with her. Bree's "mom" could have faked a pregnancy to keep her husband in the dark. He thought Bree was his daughter all along. They have been raising her all her life for this ceremony. That's why the Order is so pissed! 17 years of hard work and secrets to keep their blood-line going! Now that the father let the cat out of the bag to Bree, he had to be killed. Ok, that's my theory. Take it for what you will! hehehe I came in late to this series, so there's probably a lot of clues and stuff I missed out on to totally discount this theory...oh well. by rebecky27 on 2007-01-06 08:36:14 #349 bree's "mom" isnt old enough to be her grandma :P #350 yeah gypsy i know, that's what really ruins the theory (that, and tachyon being an ARG char) by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 08:39:19 rebecky---thats a great idea! sadly...they were brother and sister in that book...so i think we might want to change that part... by Owned on 2007-01-06 08:39:52 ah thanx jo n gypsy i think i understand now :) im excited to see where the story goes! :) by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 08:41:07 I could've been first to this video last night, but I had to go..I could see it on the page and I could see it when it got uploaded, but it wasn't done uploading onto here yet :( I WAS SO SAD!! Anyways..good video... by catherinexx on 2007-01-06 08:42:19 rebecky - No, I'm with you on that.. I think you're dead-on. I saw an interesting 'Numbers' episode that SOO reminded me of this.. a cult, Mormon type, run by a man, had a 'breeding chart' that was being used to find the optimum person to inseminate. Each female in the cult was placed and their breeding ability noted there. If Bree's cult is using something like this.. I'm sure she's off the charts as being the optimum person to be used to prolong/better the line for whatever reason! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-06 08:44:25 ooohhh, there were actual charts involved? thats intricate... by Owned on 2007-01-06 08:45:53 Owned...yeah, no incest! That's one of the reasons why I said "similar." Also, this could explain why the family Gemma had mentioned disappeared after the ceremony. To hide the young girl's pregnancy? Someone also made a comment from the another comment board that they disappeared because she backed out of the ceremony. I didn't get that at all from Gemma's video. I thought the girl did participate....but I could have things confused with Gemma's accent and all...;) by rebecky27 on 2007-01-06 08:46:29 #352 bree's mom & dad couldnt be like the "older parents" bree's mom is pretty young, she must be like in the 30's or early 40's by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 08:47:26 there are helicopters flying over my house, should i be worried, i hope the order arent taking a vaction in england at the mo! by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 08:48:47 rebecky--i didnt get that either but, why would they hid the young girl's pregnancy if it was all in the community? they would rejoice in her being pregnant...an honor. by Owned on 2007-01-06 08:48:53 vacation* by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 08:50:43 not older as in "old." Just older than 16/17. Old enough to be married and have a baby. So if Bree's "mom" was 24 when Bree was concieved, she'd be 41ish now. How do we know how old Bree's "mom" is anyway? From the video when they disappeared? by rebecky27 on 2007-01-06 08:51:16 Owned - I don't think all of the Order is "in" on this particulars of this ceremony. Bree had said only limited people were allowed to attend...not even her parents. I'm thinking only the "elders" or decons know about this. Why they would have this ceremony and blood line thingy is beyond me! That's why it's just a theory! by rebecky27 on 2007-01-06 08:53:55 a theory like that (pregnancy and all that stuff) has been exposed already, i still dont go for that theory, i mean, there are "children" watching this, bree didnt knew what the ceremony was about, if she got to the place, and it was that, she would probably back out right? and then they would force her into it? raping into a teen show? hmmm i dont think so by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 08:53:56 OMG, I'm in a Business meeting and can't listen to the video... *gasp* Dammit... I feel like going down and buying a $5.00 glass of Orange Juice and threatening to drink it.... Yes, it's that bad... *gasp* Hope ya'll are having a good day... On a break... My head's full... I could use a Grape Nehi. by mikel888 on 2007-01-06 09:01:08 *very quiet and almost hard to hear* Meeeeepppp.... ! by mikel888 on 2007-01-06 09:02:19 Jo-that's a good point. We wouldn't really see the ceremony though. There are other ways to get pregnant without having sex though. Artificial incemination (sp?). But, how would they get Bree to do that...without being drugged or something.... hmmmm....I dunno... Like I said, I missed out on a lot of clues, and obviously discussions. So, I didn't know a pregnancy theory had been discussed and discounted already. by rebecky27 on 2007-01-06 09:02:32 #367 hey mikel *hands grape nehi* meep! #369 i know that we wouldnt see the ceremony, it's kinda obvious, i mean, if the ceremony was really that, what kind of girl would upload a video of herself being raped? oO jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 09:08:01 Its pretty annoying when last night it was brand new and it wouldnt let me click it to be 'first' anyways i did NOT see that one coming Now its gonna be about finding her REAL parents right? what if they run the order? by Allamericangirl on 2007-01-06 09:08:47 #370 Noone in their right mind would upload that video of themselves. Violence like insinuating someone got shot is okay. I guess it would be left to our imaginations how she got pregnant if this theory were true. Most people would think she was raped, and that wouldn't be good. So, we can discount this theory. Sorry for wasting board space and making upload time even longer. by rebecky27 on 2007-01-06 09:20:53 #372 noone in their right mind would upload that video of anyone ;) jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 09:31:16 Could "Deacon" be the father, and Lucy be the mother? That could explain the desparate measures these people are willing to go to. Surely they have figured out by now where Jonas lives. They now have his license plate number(s)... by javagirl on 2007-01-06 09:31:51 Okay so I hope somebody didn't bring this up already. What if Bree was cloned? If the order is as big and powerful as she makes them out to be, they could totally pull something like that off. by Maddy on 2007-01-06 09:36:52 Maybe when Bree refers to her dad's midlife crisis, she means that he started questioning the order (maybe when she told him about the fake ceremony?). When Bree's parents disappeared, it could have been that her dad had just had enough of the lies and the drama and just wanted to run away from the situation. He obviously was not staying with the order when he got back in contact with Bree. Maybe Bree's mom defended the order and stayed with them, planned to continue lying to Bree, and would not support Bree's dad. Bree would have better feeling toward her dad, who realized his mistake and admitted it, than her mom who still felt she was doing right. by amarullis on 2007-01-06 09:50:38 #374 dont think so, if she was their child, lucy was able to took her when they were alone in their lessons for the ceremony jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 09:52:25 Bree's parents = Jonas's parents?! :o no way. by Jonneh on 2007-01-06 10:00:07 In the back of my head somewhere the thought just keeps persisting that Jonas & Bree have the same parents. Rich kid whose parents disappeared... takes a huge interest in Bree... I also think that Jonas may have wondered this all along. Either that or he finds some strange bond with this girl-on-the-run. I'm in agreement with several others on here. More information in the videos would be nice. I'm not as "addicted" as some of you are... and I come back to watch my two videos that I've missed and have one more tidbit of information for my trouble. As far as this video is concerned.... INTERESTING TWIST! I'm very curious to see how they take this story now. by CrIcKeT on 2007-01-06 10:10:35 well, there was the chance of bree's and jonas' parents were the same but...i just dont bite it. i mean, jonas is older than bree, he would remeber something, not even if it was just a little thing, about his mom's pregnancy. i dont know, i just dont feel that's the answer jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 10:15:21 I have a interesting theory. You all know how in the previous video how Jonas mentioned a few times "Who is that? Are you sure it is her dad?" ... well, I have a feeling that Jonas knows that guy, or at least has seen him before (a friend of his parents perhaps?) I am a true LG15 addict, hell I can talk about LG15 at the drop of a dime to anyone at any time, though I have only converted one frined to the series so far. I see certain things in the real world and it gives me ideas regards plot lines and where it could be going, character involvment, and hell I once saw a guy in a dark suit at the grocery store and I made an effort to avoid him (I could have sworn he was a watcher!) Plus all this random talk about Orange is Evil, and Grape is safe has gotten me to switch to Grape Crush Pop from Orange Crush (for the time being) by Aidan on 2007-01-06 10:24:20 #381 she could be just making sure that that was really her dad, and bree wasnt in danger :\ well, at least you werent stalked by the guy in the dark suit a few years ago ;) jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 10:28:28 WHAT IF.... BREES MOM IS OP APHID Classic story line. Reeks of Star Wars. Good vrs. Evil. Mother vrs. Daughter. It would explain why Bree was the chosen one, not just as teen chosen one, but from birth. Dear old Dad gives up Mom as the Queen of the Order and BOOM.. he gets off'd. Untill I thought about this story option, I thought that LG15 had jumped the shark, but now im excited again. WAHOO.. by Stink on 2007-01-06 10:29:02 oops *he could be just.... sorry jonas! jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 10:31:15 Maybe he (Jonas) DOES remember something. Maybe that's why he's taken such an interest in the saga. And he's just not sharing that with US. He hasn't given us very much information about his family, that's for sure. :-S by CrIcKeT on 2007-01-06 10:35:43 #383 OpAphid and The Order are different things, although OpAphid supposedly works with The Order, OpAphid is part of the ARG created by fans, The Order is the cult that is chasing Bree. different stuff. jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 10:36:14 Bree... Jonas knows how you feel... remember he lost BOTH of his parents by blewbear25 on 2007-01-06 10:38:27 #387 although they are both without parents, the situations are different. bree found out that one part of her life (a big one, since she was homeschooled) was a lie, jonas' parents disappeared jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 10:43:25 Jo I understand that OP and ORDER are two diff things but with the whole Gemma thing we see those 2 worlds coming together. Its still a cool idea to think of our symbol of evil in op ahid as the "Mother" of our pure and good little Bree. Maybe its not Oppy but still.. Head of the Order the mother of Bree.. that would be pretty cool. Jonas with the same parents? I dunno... Its not like they died while he was REALLy young. He remembers them. He would of saw BREEs dad and FLIPPED if that was his Dad. Not just a comment of , Are you sure? by Stink on 2007-01-06 10:46:30 #388 i know their situations are different but maybe she should ask him how he coped and stuff like that by blewbear25 on 2007-01-06 10:47:45 Well I think with his comment about "Are you sure?" to me seems like he could possibly recognize him, but not know him. Someone he has seen before (perhaps a friend of the family, or even just some random work friend his dad might have brought home once, or even someone he has seen in a picture from many years ago) ... that would be sort of cool if that happends to be the case .... by Aidan on 2007-01-06 10:50:54 #389 What if Jonas' parents were Bree's REAL parents? Then he wouldn't have recognized Bree's "Dad". by CrIcKeT on 2007-01-06 10:51:54 With Bree asking Jonas how he coped with the passing of his parents is a little differnt from what Bree went though. She saw her father murdered! Jonas just found out that they had died suddently in a boating accident. by Aidan on 2007-01-06 10:52:16 #224, Eno~ You know, Bree's mom COULD have put on lots of weight after Bree left. She could have gotten all depressed and stuffed her face with cheesy poofs and orange slurpees until evil drove her to kill Bree's dad. THAT may be why she appears large like Lucy in the video. I like the way you freely speculate. In fact, divergent thinking is what makes this comment board the most CREATIVE and UNIQUE. Taking the board down would kill part of the SOUL of this site. That is my LAST comment (I hope) on the subject.. but everybody, chill on the repeat posts and "bad" language.. WastingHope, Watching One.. Thanks MUCH!! Thanks also to the anonymous donor of 100 to my private LG-15 email box!! Whoo-Hoo!! Current Marble Percentage: 251 MEEPS!! by Marbella on 2007-01-06 10:52:50 I dont think that Jonas's parents were Bree's real parents. I'm sure the Creators would not go that way with the story line as it seems highly stupid. Jonas is older than Bree would'nt Jonas recall his mother being pregnant with Bree? And he deffinitly would have recognized his own father and made a comment about how that was his father and be totally flipping out ... by Aidan on 2007-01-06 10:54:48 I meant "100 marbles" of course! I am going to go away for awhile to take care of some important stuff.. See You Soon!! (CU SOON is now an omen of evil-- I will never spell it that way again!!!) by Marbella on 2007-01-06 10:54:58 Are we forgetting that we don't know WHO Bree's real dad is? Jonas has never seen him... and as for that matter, Bree doesn't even know. I still think it's highly plausible. :-) by CrIcKeT on 2007-01-06 10:56:37 Of course Bree does not know her real father (birth), but perhaps her Dad may have told her some information that she has not told us as to where to find him, or how she came about to be in his care as a baby. Though I still stand by my theory of Jonas recognizing Bree's Dad. by Aidan on 2007-01-06 11:00:22 No, we're talking about 'real' parents here. Jonas wouldn't recognize Bree's dad as his because he's not the 'real' dad. The speculation is whether they're siblings through the missing parents. I hope that isn't the case. Seems kinda cheesy. by Moondoogle on 2007-01-06 11:03:56 I'm not completely convinced that Bree and Jonas are blood siblings, but I do think that Jonas recognized Bree's "dad" and the next video we get will be from him, explaining that knowledge. Although, I suspect Bree's real parents are dead, and finding that Jonas is her real brother would allow the story to end eventually with Bree still having family despite her trials and tribulations. Plus... we don't know what is in Jonas' parents bedroom... perhaps baby pictures of a little girl, or proof that the parents were secretly attempting to find Bree at their time of death? by Perky on 2007-01-06 11:06:17 #312 sarahboo - Hey there! I'm at Aberdeen Uni. And I ought to be studying *hard*. ;) Two weeks' time and I will be freeeee of exam pressure and into my next semester. I always maange to find a major distraction around exam time, and this year it's LG15! What are you studying? by nylon on 2007-01-06 11:13:02 Geeze you guys get into it on here ïŠ think you’ve covered almost every theory I could possibly have come up with… unless… mby jonas knows who bree’s real parents are, which is why he took such an interest in her? Thus he said ‘are you sure that’s bree’s dad’ cause he was expecting to see someone else? His uncle or something maybe, making them cousins? Just another crazy theory ïŠ by logana on 2007-01-06 11:16:54 gypsy, I'm much better today. Thanks. :) I'm usually immune to the nonsense that goes on around me because I've put up with it for so long, but I was tired and a bit whiny yesterday. :o Not my most flattering moment. mary, the bath is the most wonderful invention of all time. When I was a kid, I used to go sit in a hot bath with a book and lock myself in there for hours. Since there were five people in my house and one bathroom, this wasn't a popular idea, but hey! :) Thanks, btw. I hope you're feeling better! You know what I was thinking reading over the parent conjectures? Maybe Lucy's her real mother. I mean, her adopted father looked like he was barely old enough to drink, so I guess it's ok if her birth mother looks young-ish. But I doubt that's the case. For some reason, it just seemed funny to me. :P by Lizard on 2007-01-06 11:24:04 hey nylon...im studying graphic design. i go back to my student house tomoro, and then ive have to finish my dissertation, so im weening myself off the crack today and tomro. lol. only six months left of uni then im done! WOOOOOOOOT! im watching liverpool on tv now, so see you all later. *sucks on lollypop to stop myself craving lonelycrack* by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 11:25:34 great! so she tries to clear everything, and she's able to create MORE questions! =/ by tatihc on 2007-01-06 11:32:59 hey everyone i just had to reinstall my pc and can't view the videos, does anyone know which kind of player i need to be able to see them, is it flash or sumthing? cheers by charlotterulesok on 2007-01-06 11:34:45 or , can someone give me the youtube link for this video by charlotterulesok on 2007-01-06 11:35:37 Jonas are bree have to be related for these reasons. 1.Jonas's parent's disappeared. 2.He wouldn't show us what was in their bedroom(possibly pics of Bree) 3.Jonas was expecting to see his parents with Bree that day she met with his dad, but didn't recognize her dad because he's not her real father. 4.Jonas wanted Bree to live with him because they are related. by catherinexx on 2007-01-06 11:40:00 not saying yr wrong, and it's just a minor note, but it would be easy + less suspicious to just hide pics rather than a whole room *shrug* by logana on 2007-01-06 11:42:19 #408 ok so...wanna see options for that? 1 - sure they disappeared, but that doesnt mean that everybody in the world that has missing parents are related somehow 2 - sure, there can be pics of a little girl, or maybe not, maybe he doesnt even know what's in there, maybe he doesnt want to anyone go in there to preserve the memories of his parents, etc (there are like a million options) 3 - once again, he could be expecting someone else, as he wanted to be sure that was bree's dad to make sure that bree was safe 4 - there are some ppl in the world, usually the people that suffered most and that kind of stuff, that are too kind to their own good, jonas seems to have that jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 11:45:06 hey everyone i just had to reinstall my pc and can’t view the videos, does anyone know which kind of player i need to be able to see them, is it flash or sumthing? cheers by charlotterulesok on 2007-01-06 11:47:03 Thanks Creators for the post. I never lost faith that you'd try to figure out a solution. Perky in post #323 said exactly how I feel about the situation. Hopefully everyone is a little calmer today, and we can have fun here again. logona, your comment 402 is along the same lines of what I was thinking about Jonas. I still don't understand what Bree meant when she mentioned her father's midlife crisis. by elliemae on 2007-01-06 11:47:10 Perky post number 323, Very well said! by karma-geddon on 2007-01-06 11:55:05 I'm fast losing interest. So.. now she's an orphan with no money? For a series that started out so believable... wtf? by Melisah on 2007-01-06 11:56:53 #411 yes charlotte, the videos here are in flash by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 11:58:21 #414 it's not that unbelievable, there is a huge number of adopted ppl that just find out that they are adopted when they reach the adult age jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 12:00:57 wow...really unexpected. I am a littel annoyed though. The creators just leave us with "my dad is not my real dad and my mom is not my real mom." ?? Now we have to wait while Daniel and Jonas say what is going on in their heads, to hear Bree again which will be a while. Bree, don't isolate yourself from your friends...they been with you from the start and they have the right to know why their friend is not talking to them. Remember Jonas opened up his house to you and Daniel...Daniel just cares for you. Just keep that in mind while you push them away, believe me talking will help. Alright, enough said. by bettyboop7 on 2007-01-06 12:02:11 #320 I totally agree that this story is not being layed out right. Usually in T.V. series, when the show is going downhill, writers try to add in big turns to keep the show going. It seems like the same situation here. by bettyboop7 on 2007-01-06 12:11:47 Mary mentioned this but I have a different take. When Bree mentioned in a previous video that her mom usually took her side it was probably because her decision coincided with what the order wanted. Bree only recently started to question her religion. Perhaps her dad always had a problem with what was going on but only decided to actually do something about it after Bree started to rebel. I also think that Allamericangirl is right, eventually the plot will be Bree searching for her "real" parents. I think the people on the forum are right, but they are not going far enough. Why don't we get rid of the videos that have nothing to do with the plot. They don't contribute to the story, waste bandwidth when people watch it, and new people discovering this might be turned off when watching funny videos that have nothing to do with the story. So lets get rid of all those pointless videos. Grillz, My First Kiss, etc... The creators need to be moderated by the forum. They are the only ones who can be trusted. Just like the Order. by Joe on 2007-01-06 12:15:50 #409 It may be easier to hide pictures rather than a whole room... but I don't think it's all that uncommon for people who have lost family members (children or parents) to close off the door and preserve things as they were when those individuals died. It's like a delaying of that part of the grieving process - holding out hope that the missing persons may come back perhaps, or denial that they are really gone? by Perky on 2007-01-06 12:16:38 419 Joe "The creators need to be moderated by the forum. They are the only ones who can be trusted. Just like the Order. " LOL If you weren't so afraid of nesting I would ask you to marry me for that comment alone... Oh wait... I'm afraid of nesting too... scratch that idea... by Perky on 2007-01-06 12:20:45 Joe, you're funny. I just thought you should know. :) Anyhow, so the idea is that there's a clue that Jonas and Bree are siblings in his parents' room? That is very Star Wars... and disturbing. I guess over the next couple of days, we're mostly going to be hearing from Daniel and Jonas (since Bree is upset and Gemma's... dead?). I really hope the guys get it together and find new information to give us. Daniel's the internet king, he needs to hop on and research. And Jonas has money... Can't he hire someone to dig something up, or wave some money under the right noses to try and get the info he needs? Btw, since Gemma "ran into an X," does that mean we'll never know exactly what Miss Perky was really up to? Or is there a chance that Brother didn't pop one in her chest? by Lizard on 2007-01-06 12:26:05 Hey Lizard! Watch the "Perky" references. Hahaha. by Perky on 2007-01-06 12:28:31 She said that 'she didn't know how to say this' so she would 'say it how it had been going through her head the last couple days' I think this whole 'not my real parents' thing is much deeper than her being adopted. Like... something majorly shady occured that brought her under the guardianship of her fake parents. by lonelylasslover on 2007-01-06 12:31:21 lol. So sorry, Perky. I wasn't thinking. There is a good way to be perky, a valorous optimism in the face of all that is evil... And then there is an overly enthusiastic wannabe British girl who obsesses over her biscuit tin and goes and calls P-monkey a wanker. That is the dark side of perkiness, the UNHOLY face of cheer... She is the Sith Lord of perkiness. I would never intentionally confuse the two. *bows* Apologies. by Lizard on 2007-01-06 12:32:23 #420 - exactly! it's much more likely that he's staying ut for emotional reasons than cause there's any evidnce of anything in there or he'd just hide the evidence by logana on 2007-01-06 12:35:10 #419 Joe: I don't think getting rid of the videos is a good idea at all. They show the progression from innocent, worry free Bree to the Bree we know today. They explain the history between the Daniel Beast and the Lonely Girl... and they give the story depth! Haven't you ever heard of character development!? by lonelylasslover on 2007-01-06 12:35:45 dammit, submitted too early.. meant to add that if there were evidence, the fear the bree or daniel would break in through suspicion + find it would override the emotional thing; i'd've thought it's more likely he just wants to leave the room out of respect by logana on 2007-01-06 12:37:29 HAHAHA Sith Lord of perkiness... does that mean that she must exist in order for me (the equal and opposite force) to exist - to maintain the balance of good and evil? Or do I get to break out the whoopass and take her down? by Perky on 2007-01-06 12:38:20 logana... I think there is room for both of us to be right... the room was left as-is out of respect... but who knows what keys may be found inside??? by Perky on 2007-01-06 12:40:04 perky: *salutes* true, true.. though if there are any clues mby jonas doesn't know about them? i guess i just reckon fear of discovery would override respect.. mby i need to work on my respectfullness, heh by logana on 2007-01-06 12:44:56 I kind of cheated I saw this yesterday at reveer before it was able to view here :) I can understand why she doesn't want to talk, she's taking a lot in right now... wonder why she doesn't want to talk to her "mom" by lovethatsara on 2007-01-06 12:48:20 logana *shares a nice cold Grape Nehi* It's possible that Jonas remembers something from before his parents died... maybe it wasn't enough to check out their room and override the respect thing... but now that the situation has changed (and mourning time has passed) the need for information is stronger than the need to keep the room intact? by Perky on 2007-01-06 12:52:36 #432 she doesnt say that she doesnt want to speak to her "mom" she says "I don't want to get into this right now, but, I won't be talking to my mother anytime soon." so she's probably just saying that she knows that she wont be with her "mom" in a while jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 12:54:42 Hello folks! I've been out all day and I have missed all the posting banter! read Joes comment tho... "The creators need to be moderated by the forum. They are the only ones who can be trusted. Just like the Order." Nearly choked on my nehi for laughing too much! On a plot development issue... I wonder as Bree's mum was clearly so young and Bree seems really really mad at her... if she is actually her sister? Just a thought... by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 12:55:17 perky; *swigs gratefully + feels part of the community* as long as the evidence (whatever it may be) doesn't reveal that he has a weird, scary ulterior motive for getting involved, then that sounds very possible :) by logana on 2007-01-06 12:58:32 Perky, If you're not going to get on one knee, I will not take your marriage propasal serious. Guys need romance too. Lizard, Glad to be of service, hopefully I cheered you up some more. Lonelylasslover, I wasn't serious about deleting the videos. It was an attempt at being funny and pointing out the stupidity of moderating anything just because a few people don't like it. Don't take anything I post serious. Except for my next comment. Thank you forum guys for making the Creators waste what little money they have on a web site developer just to make you happy. Instead of spending it on the story. Way to go! You should all be proud of what you have accomplished. by Joe on 2007-01-06 13:02:03 Joe... I'm in a relationship with two kids and I live in the UK..however I just read your last paragraph on comment 437... want to get married? by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 13:04:19 lonelylasslover, he was kidding, I believe. :) Perky, yes, Gemma must exist for you to exist. But she probably has an evil perky apprentice (Jennifer Love Hewitt, maybe?), in which case her destruction just means another menace will step up and take her place. by Lizard on 2007-01-06 13:04:38 Haha logana, the way the twists and turns keep coming, I guess "weird, scary ulterior motive" hasn't really been ruled out, either. Welcome to the community :-) by Perky on 2007-01-06 13:05:04 *dances with joy* ... meep! by logana on 2007-01-06 13:08:37 lol. Wow, I've never seen someone get so many marriage proposals in the span of ten to twenty minutes. You did cheer me up more, Joe. :) The people here always do. That's why I survived my first semester of law school! I'm putting you guys on retainer for the second semester. by Lizard on 2007-01-06 13:08:54 I have watched the comments section develop over the months. There were some that thought that FIRST should have been banned. Yet it has developed into an integral part of the comments culture. Other things like ORANGE SLUPEES have developed their own following and culture. All of this has been a pleasure to watch. Its surprising where freedom and freedom of thought can take people. Its fascinating how they form groups and group identities. Its delightful how much fun they can have while waiting on a new video to be posted. All of these are things that should be treasured by the LG community. There maybe those who do not understand the comments and there maybe others who do not approve of them.......but let me assure you there are many many many more who appreciate freedom and act with reasonable responsibility and that is what is important to protect. by modelmotion on 2007-01-06 13:10:23 # catherinexx (send note) Says: January 6th, 2007 at 11:40 am Jonas are bree have to be related for these reasons. 1.Jonas’s parent’s disappeared. 2.He wouldn’t show us what was in their bedroom(possibly pics of Bree) 3.Jonas was expecting to see his parents with Bree that day she met with his dad, but didn’t recognize her dad because he’s not her real father. 4.Jonas wanted Bree to live with him because they are related. I like this theory! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 13:10:40 Gemmas Flatmate, Don't you know you're not suppose to read my comments and drink at the same time. Well it's summer here in New Jersey. So I have to go out and do outdoor stuff. As Homer Simpsons put it: "Whats the point of going out if we're only gonna end up back here anyways?" She really did not agree with that comment. I'm screwed. Wish me luck. by Joe on 2007-01-06 13:12:41 modelmotion, you have worded things much more eliquently than I ever could. (#443) *bows* by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 13:12:46 this video wasn't so bad...i wanna hear about what happened to her dad and EVERYTHING that he told her. by lively551 on 2007-01-06 13:15:03 OMG Joe... you like the Simpsons...they are kind of like my specialist subject if I was to go on a quiz show...*thinks.."I'm going to start stalking"* As Homer would say "WALKING?? ooh that wasnt part of the deal.." by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 13:15:12 I wrote a new song. To the tune of Blink 182 I miss you (I miss you miss you) Hello there the man in the library The books in the backround make me wonder The unsespecting victim of deacons in the valley You can live like Bree and Daniel if you want Where they are always running I'll give you national geographic on Christmas And in the night we wish a video comes We wish a video comes Where are you, oh dear jonas I cannot sleep I need a video tonight I need it today and always This sick strange darkness comes from orange slurpies i consume everynight And as I stared I counted the hours I have waited reading all the comments, awaiting a new movie make us a new video even if its not good Will you post a vid and stop this pain tonight stop this pain tonight Don't waste your time on Bree your already screwed beyond belief(6x) I miss you miss you(6x) by Harleygirl24 on 2007-01-06 13:21:04 Oh my rah, talk like a normal teenager. You're trying to sound smart but you just make the whole thing way too complicated. And seriously girl, you need to get your mac on. Daniel, eh, he isn't in any way sexy, but Joans is gorgeous. I'm not saying you need to be all up on him but give us something. I'll do it if you won't ;-) by sn0wy12angel24 on 2007-01-06 13:23:28 oh, i can't see the video :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:( by charlotterulesok on 2007-01-06 13:23:38 Haha wow Harleygirl!! *adds to page* by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-06 13:24:21 Sorry if this has already been said... no time to read... have to get back to conference but... Maybe Bree was kidnapped when she was like 3 or 4 years old, and Cassie is an alternate personality that developed because of it.. like on CSI... except Bree/Cassie is not a serial killer. :-P by AlliBean on 2007-01-06 13:33:55 #443 woah... *bows* #449 that's a great song! i know exactly how the song sounds so i stopped the song that i was listening and i started singing that one! (without music, i dont think i have that song anymore) #450 i dont know what is difficult to understand, maybe to normal people it isnt hard....or maybe i'm not a normal people! to me not being normal is great, be like everyone else sucks, i'll be the purple in the middle of the orange!! jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 13:35:07 did anyone find me a grammy yet? ha ha..hey I like the theory that jonas and bree are brother and sister...but it would kinda suck that she couldn't hook up with him. by Harleygirl24 on 2007-01-06 13:35:15 I quite like the "JOnas and Bree and related" theory! I doubt that they would divulge this any time soonn as they probably want us to feel that there is some love interest triangle going on between the three of them and that way we'll be ecstatic when she picks daniel over jonas for romantic reasons instead of "well jonas is my brother so....that's not possible." hehe sorry Modelmotion: you should post your last comment in the forum thread about this situation. It was very nicely put. by Scooter on 2007-01-06 13:39:15 Hahaha 455 I tried to get you a golden record but lgpedia won't let me put it up :[ I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-06 13:39:27 hmmm i have an idea to a little song, let's see if it works out *starts working* oh, btw #455 harley, bree wont hook up with jonas...neither with daniel, she will hook up with me! :P xDDDDDD jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 13:40:19 444 gf - I really like that theory too!! :-D by Jess on 2007-01-06 13:40:27 Bye guys, I'm out. by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-06 13:41:35 #460 cya wingless by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 13:45:36 Ok, got to walk the doggie. by Lizard on 2007-01-06 13:49:25 that was a pretty sad video. i feel really bad for bree, good thind it isn't real by bee on 2007-01-06 13:49:34 by bobbyfletcher on 2007-01-06 13:55:55 Joe I'm sorry, I cannot get down on one knee. I know it breaks your heart, but if I am on one knee I cannot flee the scene before I do something stupid. Like try to get hitched. If I start talking about bridesmaids and flowers... something evil has overtaken me, call in the Defense Force. #456 Scooter... that theory is quite Star Wars... and very possible. :-) by Perky on 2007-01-06 13:58:51 Heres my thoughts: I think Bree was cloned and/or a test tube baby of some sort. I mean, her dad was always into "the sciences" right? and he used to work for labs and shit, so I'm thinking possibly that Bree was revived from sections of Aliester Crowley's DNA or something, and then made the female counterpart or something. Well, here's an interesting question... What exactly did "epogen" do? wasnt it to help anemic people? Was Aliester Crowley Anemic? Because with the sciences and all, this would be good indication that Bree never necessarily had real parents, but was genetically engineered by 707clique on 2007-01-06 14:05:00 ok, the song is made! it's a cheap version of "the saints are coming", here it is: "The Videos Are Coming" - by Jo There is a site in Internet, they call the Lonelygirl15, It's been the crack of many people, and God, I know I'm one. I cried to the creators on the comment board, how long now? Until the grape nehi ends and you *meep* down, the line went. But the shadows still remain since your last video, your last video. I cried to my creators on the comment board, how long now? Until the grape nehi ends and you *meep* down, the line went. But the shadows still remain since your last video, your last video. The videos are coming, the videos are coming. I say no matter how I try, I realise the video never comes by. The videos are coming, the videos are coming. I say no matter how I try, I realise the video never comes by. A drowning sorrow floods the deepest grief, how long now? Until the video changes condemns addiction, how long now? When the lonelycrackers let in the order, what's wrong now? The videos are coming, the videos are coming I say no matter how I try, I realise the video never comes by. The videos are coming, the videos are coming I say no matter how I try, I realise the video never comes by. I say no matter how I try, I realise the video never comes by. I say no matter how I try, I realise the video never comes by. *bows and leaves the room in pain* jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 14:05:14 In for a second - Modelmotion... that was a wonderful comment and thank you.. it's always a kick to find out our nuttiness has appealed to someone! Joe..as a fellow New Jersey resident.. I just got in, was out with the dogs... supposed to drop in temperature and be snowing by tuesday, so enjoy it while you can!! Harley - no grammy as of yet, but not for lack of trying! applause for your latest hit.. I'm sure it'll be a great addition to your album! Marbella - you had 100 marbles donated and you're now at 25%!.. holy cow, you must be having a rough day.. *meep* *meep**meep* Perky - now the new Anti-Sith Lord.. hehehe, love it! Lizard.. glad to be on retainer, lol, you do the same for me btw!! laters all !! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-06 14:07:06 oh, can't see the video!!!!! guys, are any of you on facebook ? if so add me :D by charlotterulesok on 2007-01-06 14:08:07 and hell, their secret laboratory may be located up near the KSRA radio tower near Adak Island, AK or yet here's another one... Bree, Daniel, Gemma, and Jonas were ALL Genetically engineered from a lab located in Anchor Cove. Therefore giving the series the name "the children of Anchor Cove" I mean, why wouldnt Daniel's parents really care about him? Probably because he isn't "their kid" by 707clique on 2007-01-06 14:09:42 #470 and when they were creating daniel, there was a problem and it made his nose that way :D just joking, i shouldn mock him, yousef is a great guy ;D jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 14:14:41 one of the youtube tags for that video is "hamster"...yea theres definitley going to be something about Genetic engineering in this series by 707clique on 2007-01-06 14:26:02 Gypsy, you must have been reading a very old comment. My last posted percentage was 251%!! Another person has privately emailed me 40 marbles. So my current percentage is: 291! I forgot that meeps add 10% when given to me as gifts. I don't know if anybody's done that lately. I don't think so. Jo, what a fun song! When the videos.. come marching in!! HarleyGirl, too LOL.. 470 Clique--HAHA!! They are the "Stepford Satanists." None of them are real. They are all on remote control, except for Bree figured out a way to switch hers off! Also, lets take a poll.. I guess I could do this in the forum. Maybe I actually will. How many people are absolutely SICK of Cassie and all Cassie-related discussion? I mean, if we're never going to learn anything, WHY bring her up over and over because of one line in a "Swimming" video? by Marbella on 2007-01-06 14:27:18 awsome clip hope she is okay it must be terrible to know that the only parents you know arent your real parents you know maybe the order gave her to her parents and waited until she was old enough to take her back by angelbrunetta on 2007-01-06 14:32:42 Marbella - Here are 5 meeps just for you!!! *meep**meep**meep**meep**meep* I'm with you about the Cassie thing...do you think it was a storyline that the creators just decided to abandon? I mean really now...what's the deal? by Jess on 2007-01-06 14:34:26 danielbest is your father by Platypus on 2007-01-06 14:35:17 people, pls visit www.facebook.com and join by charlotterulesok on 2007-01-06 14:36:17 Hey Everybody!! HERE'S THE LINK TO MY NEW "CASSIE POLL" http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4857 Hey, please vote. I've crossed the lines/tracks into forum territory.. You too can cross them and vote. It is a gesture of openness to reconciling. It's also just a fun way to pass the time. by Marbella on 2007-01-06 14:36:48 Holy crap never saw this coming i cant believe her dad is not her dad and he's dead! so who is her real dad and mom? Nikki Bower do your stuff! by halonoelle on 2007-01-06 14:37:02 Jess, thanks.. Since each of your 5 meeps added 10%, I took that from the total. I now have 525% MARBLES!! Since I am so wealthy in my abundant surplus, I hereby donate 400 marbles to Bree as a gift to her during her grief. I now have 125% of my marbles. It's more than enough. I have some reserve. Heal soon, Bree. We need info, after all. We have selfish motives, but still we LOVE YOU!! I will SEE YOU all later... by Marbella on 2007-01-06 14:43:03 #473 marbella, i'm glad you liked the song, it seems you were the onlly one :\ i'm tired of cassieiswatching, i mean, it has no sense! but the real cassie, the one that we never saw....who knows, bree mentioned her not that long ago when she spoke of some prank calls... jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 14:44:53 hi everyone!!! i would like to Apologize to you all for the anger i had yesterday. sorry... i think im better now... so i was thinking today what if daniel and bree are siblings! i mean daniel's parents dont care about him so what if that lack of caring was caused by a traumatic event like having to give away a child???? by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 14:49:28 and im glad the creators addressed the problem. it least now i know that they are paying attention which is what i wanted to hear. and im glad they dont want us to leave because i will be here and only here, right here. Nice!! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 14:52:13 Jo, I liked your song too! I even sang it to my little brother... who now thinks I'm totally insane :) It's good to be on lonelycrack... by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-06 14:52:26 cloud - comment 483..man that was really sincere, I feel like giving you a big hug! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 14:56:25 #482 daniel would notice something, i mean, bree's been in his house, his parents saw her, they would react somehow...and not care about a child because of giving away another one? then they would probably lose both! by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 14:58:29 hmmm.."Children of Anchor Cove" maybe none of the kids in that neighbourhood were actually related to their "parents"... ok thats a bit far fetched.. by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 14:59:00 cloud - I'm glad you're back and things are better now! by Jess on 2007-01-06 14:59:07 Ooh gross, cloud. I hope Bree and Danielbeast aren't siblings. Didn't they kiss once or almost kiss? by elliemae on 2007-01-06 15:01:57 I know daniel and bree nearly kissed eurgh...hey so did Luke and Leah!! Seriously though I dont think they are related...personally I hope Gemma is a relative! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 15:04:51 #484 ohhh thanks ^^ *wipes the tears of his eyes* by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 15:06:00 If gemma is related, I wonder where she got the huge lips from. Hey, I'm not knocking them...there's a reason Angelina is so popular, but none of the other characters share that trait. by elliemae on 2007-01-06 15:06:39 If daniel and bree are siblings.... that would remind me of star wars... *_*... by MysticShadow724 on 2007-01-06 15:06:39 but they didn't nearly kiss, didn't daniel kiss bree in one of the earlier videos? While they were at the party? Time for a flashback... by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-06 15:09:48 elliemae i never said it was pretty... and jo it is possible she was taken from them as a baby to another country (parents did travel around the world). and they would not know who she was sence she was a baby then and now a 16 year old girl. and they did not tell daniel because they wanted to protect him emotionaly but after the years they lost emotions themselves. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:09:54 maybe they are all related and just one big dysfunctional family... so wonderful... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:12:46 Gotta love the big dysfunctional families...one of my sisters and I have mugs that have the old saying "My family puts the 'fun' in dysfunctional" on them...they're great, and ever so true! by Jess on 2007-01-06 15:16:45 #496 cloud, did you take your pills? :P jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 15:18:13 jo, nope the mackerel ate them all... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:19:53 btw The Mackerel is now the Official Hallucination of the LG15 Defense Force! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:20:54 we're having hallucinations now? by elliemae on 2007-01-06 15:22:49 I've got it! Bree has pointed out that her father fell in love with her mum after she argued her case at a play, and Gemma said her mum was really impressed with Brees strong charismatic mother...Brees "mum" could be some sort of recruiter for the order! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 15:24:06 elliemae i do when we go a LONG time with out a video. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:24:53 Hey it's cool. Lonelycrack withdrawal has severe side effects, which we are only just beginning to see the extent of. by elliemae on 2007-01-06 15:26:27 I think that the "mackerel" should replace "Cassie" as the official hallucination. 1/2 of all viewers polled (in another poll) believed that Bree imagined her, 'cause Bree has mental problems. We see her like a ghost, whispy, eerie, etc. I think she is a boring, old hallucination. The Mackerel should replace you.. "Watch out.. The Mackerel is Watching.. NO RIP for the Mackerel!!" by Marbella on 2007-01-06 15:26:44 Here is my video response to this video..before the approve goes through.. http://one.revver.com/watch/134896/flv/affiliate/28541 by LordGreystoke422 on 2007-01-06 15:26:47 oh...no pills? *bree mode on* ok, so... *bree mode off* *slaps cloud* WAKE UP!! good old fashion way ^^ jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 15:27:02 i bet when the creators revamp the site they will have to close it down for a while (possibly a few days!) then i think we will see some wild side effects of withdrawal!!!! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:28:51 Ha! So I just looked and apparently I have mackerel everyday in my fish oil supplements lol by Jess on 2007-01-06 15:29:18 gemmas flatmate, last night I said this: "I wonder if she’s not speaking to her “mom†because her “dad†told her that she betrayed her. Like maybe she was going to turn her in to the Order for the ceremony against her wishes. Remember, it was Bree’s mom who got her dad into this whole religion mess to begin with. She’s probably the more devout one in the family." So yeah, I think it's possible that her mom is a recruiter or something. But then we have to remember why Lucy was brought into the picture to begin with. She was helping to train Bree, because her mom was not as familiar with parts of the ceremony. You'd think if she was recruiting, that she would know a lot more than she let on. by elliemae on 2007-01-06 15:32:06 *takes slap* WHAT!!!! *tear* OUCH!!!!! *red hand mark on face* thats going to leave a mark... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:32:25 Hello group My name is Sim7lizard and I'm a Lonelygirl-aholic by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 15:34:09 ahhhhhhh. had a FREAKISHLY SCARY dream last night. but it has no reference to lg15 so i dont think ill post it. by Grace on 2007-01-06 15:35:22 maybe not elliemae you might not want your recruiters to know the whole "truth" so they can paint the perfect picture possible to convince the people that they are trying to recruit to join. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:36:33 I started slowly you know one a month... but then I needed it... so I became addicted... by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 15:36:33 I really think we need to start a support group by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 15:38:14 good job Sim7lizard you have passed the first step. admitting you have a problem. *applaudes* by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:38:29 ...if the first step is admitting that you have a problem, does that mean im already on step 25? by Grace on 2007-01-06 15:39:29 70th video anniversary of brees "last video" 45th video anniversary of the last video of bree in her room oh, how time flies when you are having a crack-filled time.... by Grace on 2007-01-06 15:42:49 ooohh cloud thank you so much... and I know I have a problem... I have MANY problems!!! lol But my imaginary friends told me you were worst! I'm gonna go help myself with some coffee and donuts at the back of the room by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 15:42:52 OOppsss the job is calling i'll be back to read your comments later!!!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 15:44:12 Sim7lizard - I'm right there with ya...I'm a Lonelygirl-aholic too :-D by Jess on 2007-01-06 15:44:36 ********** Let's not forget that Bree once said in a video that her parents were NOT in the order of denderah when arguing with Daniel about the ceremony. What could this mean paired iwht the new info that bree's parents are not her biological parents? ********** by Scooter on 2007-01-06 15:45:51 Salutes Jess you redhair foxy!!!!!! See you all later!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 15:46:12 *sniff* all my comments are being ignored *sniff* nobody likes me, nobody likkess mee..... by Grace on 2007-01-06 15:46:47 Cloud, I'm actually making a video about the mackerel now.. :) by Marbella on 2007-01-06 15:46:53 ((Grace)) We LOVE you. I've just been obsessed with making a silly mackerel video for cloud, that's all. by Marbella on 2007-01-06 15:48:31 And again I refer back to our sci-fi theories that Bree is some sort of genetic experiment and the order's "religousness" is just a front so people won't ask too many questions (why else would they have warehouses??). It also makes sense that her father was a scientist. (generally high level scientist aren't the most devout men.) by Scooter on 2007-01-06 15:48:38 i like you Grace. and step 25? is that the 25 time you have revisited step one??????? by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 15:55:49 Lord Greystroke, Thanks for that video response. You show such empathy for Bree! I laughed SO HARD over the list of people who could be Bree's father!!! by Marbella on 2007-01-06 15:56:04 Gemmas Flatmate, The Simpsons are the bestest, got me through college. Despite what most people think Homer is a wise man. If I see a car following me everywhere I go driving on the left side of the road, I'll know it's you stalking me. Perky, But if you get on one knee it makes it easier for me to run away before I say yes. :) jc_gypsy7, First I have to walk around aimlessly in a park, and soon I have to shovel snow. Great! Just shoot me now. So tired. So out of shape. Nap time. by Joe on 2007-01-06 15:56:23 elliemae you have a point! Then again maybe Brees mum was in the order...she just didnt tell brees dad..and maybe Lucy is a special teacher for cases like Bree? by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 15:59:20 Joe, Homer is a wise man! Marge is my hero tho... do you remember the episode "Marge be not proud"? Its my favourite because Marge reacts exactly how I would if I found my son had been shoplifting! Oh and I dont drive...look out for a mad cyclist trying to keep up with your car... by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 16:03:27 Grace, Post the dream. I'll find the connection to LG15. After my nap. by Joe on 2007-01-06 16:05:04 Anything new and interesting today? by MagicianX on 2007-01-06 16:05:37 sorry magician! I'm not new or interesting! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 16:08:16 Neither am I :-/ by Jess on 2007-01-06 16:15:51 Okay Joe, here's the deal... we each stay on our respective feet with no plans for proposals which may require either of us to take off running before we do or say something stupid that involves "the Wedding March." And for the record, I am much more of a South Park kind of girl than Simpsons... so obviously, we cannot be married due to incompatibility. by Perky on 2007-01-06 16:18:05 i think you both are interesting jess and GF!!!! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 16:18:22 aw bless you cloud! *salutes* by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-06 16:19:44 I wonder if she reads all these, I won't just because theres over 500 but eh, you never know, but the really annoying thing are the ppl who keep posting "FIRST!" thats just fucking retarded Anyways...I think Bree just needs a a couple of days to come to the realization that her "dad" is dead, then a week or two to process very thing he told her, what she needs to do is think about one bit of information at a time then move on to the next, instead of trying to take it all in at once... That's just what I think... by DelacroixDraven on 2007-01-06 16:25:12 Aw thanks cloud! by Jess on 2007-01-06 16:29:52 DelacroixDraven...dont let the general hear you insult FIRRRRRRRRRSTTTTTTTT! you could be done for. by Harleygirl24 on 2007-01-06 16:33:01 Hey guys :) good vid, good acting eh?? I bet bree is going to be like jessica alba's character in dark angel.... by rubymoon13 on 2007-01-06 16:36:13 great video rubymoon! I had really hoped we would get a video from Daniel or Jonas today :-/ I doubt it, but I'm still holding on to hope! lol by Jess on 2007-01-06 16:49:49 All you newly addicted LonelyCrackers, we have a support group already... http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LonelyCrack#The_LonelyCrack_Support_Group And Grace, if you didn't see it already, I put you're dreams onto this page as well (as symptoms of addiction). by Dream on 2007-01-06 17:01:04 wow....downer much by xx_luvly on 2007-01-06 17:04:02 dream it's not on the forum is it, because i will refuse to go there by rubymoon13 on 2007-01-06 17:16:39 [sighs] I'm sick of this. I usually don’t say much, but this video has pushed a few of my buttons. I know this isn’t real, but I need to say it anyway. Bree, I know you just lost your 'father' (or whoever he was), but cut us all some slack. We've been here since ‘Grillz‘, proving science wrooong and your excitement for the ceremony. We've given you advice on when you and Daniel ran away, to you trusting Jonas. And then you just up and leave, taking Jonas’ car and some money and come back expecting us not to have questions. Everyone goes through hardships, everyone goes through struggles, and all of us loose some people we love. But keeping everything locked up inside with only you as the onlooker to observe and understand everything that has happened to you is dangerous. I’m not asking you to let everything out in one big tumble, but saying you ‘don’t want to talk about it’ isn’t going to work either. You need to know that you can trust us. And maybe by just giving us a few pieces a week, we can help you understand what’s going on and maybe answer more questions about your family and why these people are so persistent on catching you. Well, that’s all I have to say…. [shuts up now] by notlikecrazii on 2007-01-06 17:19:39 rubymoon13, no it's on the LGPedia, it's quite safe to go there. ;) by Dream on 2007-01-06 17:22:57 lol...phew, because i think i need a support group...he he *starts fidgeting and looking around uncomfortably* by rubymoon13 on 2007-01-06 17:25:32 If in case anyone has ever doubted Jess Rose's acting ability...this surely would proves them wrong. Damn its so hard to do monologues and make them sound natural. I dont know which one of out LG creators actually wrote this particular monologue, but it leads me to believe that they must have lost a parent, or someone really close. I have lost both parents and this is so right on the mark, but I have never been able to express it in words like she is in this episode. It sounds very simple. but its not that easy. by voyboy on 2007-01-06 17:26:00 Is that Lonelycracks banner suppose to remind me of... It's a bit disturbing. by lonelycracks on 2007-01-06 17:32:44 ummm, it's a donut. by irishka on 2007-01-06 17:34:56 rubymoon13, bring some bundt cake and join us! And if you know a topic for a special break-out session you want to chair, just tell us! There is still a time slot after the session on stuffed animal co-dependency! Plot related... I'm not convinced that Bree and Jonas are siblings. They definitely do not look the slightest bit alike. And the fact that both of them act strange at times and don't have parents around is not enough to convince me. I see where the idea comes from, though. I'm looking forward to Jonas's explanation about why it seemed he recognized Mr Niverse. If he ever explains. ;) I know I said that already, but: Gemma, hon, where are you? You surely haven't really run into an X, have you? I want to hear the Sith-Lord Gemma side of things! by Dream on 2007-01-06 17:36:14 excuse me, bundt cake! I need to get to more meetings! )But I don't have a problem...really) by irishka on 2007-01-06 17:36:17 did i here someone say donut! *Drools* mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 17:37:54 lonelycracks, irishka, the banner shows a bundt cake, not a donut! lol. Bundt cake, the favorite support group food. Closely followed by idiot fudge. Which gets a whole new meaning in light of the recent name calling. :D by Dream on 2007-01-06 17:38:16 Dream, Gemma is a sith-lord???? wow when did that happen??? by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 17:39:09 i don't think jonas and bree are related either... and i *hope* bree and daniel aren't. i think we are gonna get a new character. and i want gemma back... at least acknowlege her if she is dead. but she needs to post again, that she had been detained by the Watchers...and kidnapped all the way to California! by Owned on 2007-01-06 17:40:11 Just the big words "Lonely Cracks" seems a bit... by lonelycracks on 2007-01-06 17:42:04 Dream, I did correct myself! I blame my lapse on the orange juice that I had at breakfast this morning. I don't know what came over me! *sobs* by irishka on 2007-01-06 17:43:19 You know what they should do (and i get this from Samhas7friends, not from my own brain) is post above the video "Next episode on Monday, January 8th" so that we know when to look for a new one. Or post it the next day, you know, the day after the new vid is posted... just a thought. it'll probably take away from the realism...i dunno... by Owned on 2007-01-06 17:44:09 that is a good idea owned. that would help. but your right that it might take away from the realism... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 17:48:17 559 cloud, it happened a few hundred comments earlier. Perky is the Anti-Sith Lord. 560 Owned, I agree with you, we need Gemma back! irishka, yep, but I started the post before you submitted yours, so I didn't see that. Orange juice for breakfast? Tsktsk. But no need to cry! *hands tissue and Grape Nehi as anti-evil-medicine* by Dream on 2007-01-06 17:50:42 Heya everyone! LordGreystoke.. God help her if Bush is her father, is all I have to say, lol! But the final message was great. *doing a happy dance!!!* singing,'cloud is here, cloud is here.... HOLY MACKERAL!!! ;) ' voy - me too and I totally agree. Her facial expressions and tone were dead-on.. (no pun intended!), and I really think she's been growing in her ability thru this series in leaps and bounds. hehe, huggers Grace!! And an odd dream?? YOU??!!.. I don't believe it.... nahh, not Grace... lol!! GF - I don't drive either, wow! Aidan - I think he recognized him too.. am waiting to see how/why! Joe - sorry but I'm with Perky.. South Park totally rules!! Heya Jess and Dream! K.. I've got 2 severely attitudinal beagles who are STILL pissed that I spent so much time on the puter last night, and not enough with them.. never mind the b/f, lol! so am taking off again.. will pop back in later, hopefully, hasta all! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-06 17:57:15 Mann I wish the watchers or whatever would just kill them all already. by Apple on 2007-01-06 17:57:33 Bree is Jonas's Sister Bree is Daniel's Sister Bree is Gemma's Sister Bree is MY sister Where's Darth Vader? Bree and Daniel and Jonas and Gemma and the Order are flying ... flying in the sky ... and somewhere ... far, far below ... I believe there is a shark. Jump, Bree, Jump. by crispy on 2007-01-06 17:59:57 Ok, had anyone made sense out of this video. Which dad is dead and which dad has a mid life crisis. Is her real mom her mom and why is she not speacking to her? Why did the go to the garage in the previous video and who did they meet.....before in incident........her biological dad? by modelmotion on 2007-01-06 18:01:02 bree is probably not going to talk to her mom because of what happened when she talked to her dad... seems obvious to me by rubymoon13 on 2007-01-06 18:07:37 many good questions modelmotion and i hope we get answers sooner than later... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 18:07:53 modelmotion, either this hasn't been mentioned or I haven't read through the comments thoroughly, but yes of course, it is entirely possible that Mr Niverse told Bree that her real father was dead which would explain why none of us saw Mr Niverse actually getting shot. Hmm, whole new perspectives open. But would she be grieving like that then? I mean, she obviously never knew her real father. Was her real father searching for her? Was Mr Niverse in contact with him? by Dream on 2007-01-06 18:07:59 HAHAHA... Mr Niverse HAHAHA i STILL love it! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 18:09:41 BREEE IM YOUR FATHER. by Apple on 2007-01-06 18:10:48 just dropping in for a moment....did the creators say they were going to alter the site? to make it better and quicker to veiw lots of comments? and if so, what did they say and when? by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 18:11:26 ok so we have Mr Niverse so.... what is bree's biological dads name????????? "?" by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 18:12:28 no time table was talked about sarahboo just to stay tuned... i hope that means soon... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 18:14:28 thanx cloud, night all! by sarahboo on 2007-01-06 18:20:14 I actually had a life the past couple days! Now its back to the cycle of LG15 addiction. by gnome on 2007-01-06 18:24:03 Most of the evidence for grieving has been the music. The creators luv to send us in the wrong direction. Pehaps she is just really upset because a) she found out her dad is not her biological dad and b) her biological dad is dead. I am not saying that is the case......but it is consistent with what we have been told so far. by modelmotion on 2007-01-06 18:24:27 gosh, i think that i'll go to bed, i'm not really in the mood to be around, and i wouldnt be a good company so...off to bed, at least everything is pretty cool at "dream land"... cya tomorrow jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-06 19:00:36 have a good night jo so i im wondering what happend to gemma, and what was her purpose at the hotel? by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 19:03:55 HEY ALL!!! O.K. I'm just gonna post this once and head to bed - gotta be somewhere in the morning! :) One, I'm happy to see the level of hostility lower and the return of the songwriters!!! Well done guys!! Two, somethings been bugging me about this video and up until now I really couldn't put my finger on it. I've usually been a firm supporter of Cassie as Bree's alter-ego until now. The question that's been gnawing at me is this: Danielbeast. In the swimming video, I used to think his statement of never having heard of Cassie was a reference to a possible split-personality in Bree. This video makes me think that there is another question that should be asked about that statement: How involved in the cult could Daniel possibly be? Could he have knowledge of what they have in store for Bree and was trying to cover-up the disappearance of Cassie by feigning ignorance? It's just a thought.... Anyway -G'Night all, and happy *meep* to you all! by WatchingOne on 2007-01-06 19:09:05 #582 when was gemma in the hotel? by mareejaine8775 on 2007-01-06 19:35:39 #584... In the last Brother video they show her in the parking lot running or scaping. Broter is actually instructed to go to thei hotel (the Airport Hilton) thus, we say Gemma was in te Hotel. We are not refering to the motel Bree and Daniel Stayed at. by rosieiswatching on 2007-01-06 19:44:02 brrrnrrr by gracie on 2007-01-06 19:50:38 gemma is a bit of a loose end really...it's like "yes she's evil we get it".....now what? by rubymoon13 on 2007-01-06 19:55:31 G'nite everyone!! by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-06 20:04:41 i just did what i promissed myself and had a look at the forum.... *shudders* by rubymoon13 on 2007-01-06 20:17:51 thats supposed to say what i promised myself i would never do lol by rubymoon13 on 2007-01-06 20:19:25 kind of a while ago but #349 they didnt want her back because they left the cult she was kidnapped and then they found out that she was kidnapped so her real parents that she was taken from wanted her back by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-06 20:22:39 Some thoughts I've been thinking... Bree talks about her Dad's mid-life crisis. She must be referring to her "Dad" and not her biological father due to the familiarity with which she speaks and the fact that her "Dad" had a crisis of conscience ("mid-life crisis") that prompted him to tell Bree the truth. The truth resulted in Bree's "early teen life crisis." Her reference to not seeing her mother anytime soon... also presumably refers to the woman who raised her. If her mother has not cracked and is still a card-carrying member of the Order, reason dictates that it's not really in Bree's best interests to see her anytime in the near future. And finally... I really want to see a video of the Sith Lord of Perkiness - my arch-nemesis - trying to get back into Bree's good graces with an excuse about how the Order kidnapped... but I want it to be obviously a lie, maintaining that Gemma is also a card-carrying member of the Order. All of this presuming that Brother didn't whack her. by Perky on 2007-01-06 20:24:44 i dont like the jonas and bree are related theory. its way too soapoperaish by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-06 20:25:44 Looks like the forum got what they wanted number of comments looks low. South Park rocks. But Homer Simpson is the man. Gemmas Flatmates, At the park there was a women on a bike with a baby carriage attached to it. I didn't think anything of it then, but now I'm worried. by Joe on 2007-01-06 20:27:03 Hey.. For anyone who ACTUALLY CARES.. I have made a video in honor of Cloud_Ax. It is being uploaded now. It is called: I Killed Kassie It is about mackerel. : ) by Marbella on 2007-01-06 20:35:21 YAY!! It's UP!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=gECaQPhgxoY by Marbella on 2007-01-06 20:41:18 jayusmc1986 Hey, bro, Semper Fi! As a real-life former Marine, it kind of falls on my shoulders to comment on your recent fan video! I would never say anything negative about a fan contributor. Being one myself, I really am willing to accept criticism. It is really important that two comments be made about your debut attempt: 1. I assume 1986 is your birth year. Working from that, you would have enlisted in 2004. I applaud you; but your rank insignia is that of a Private First Class. What happened? I was a Corporal after two years in the Marines. Did you get demoted? 2. Lay off of the steroids. You have some dubious weight gain products on the shelf behind you in your vid. Remember that everything I am saying here is intended in the spirit of goodwill. PS: If you ever post a mean-spirited video like that again, I will find out which Marine Corps unit you are attached to and immediately contact your commanding officer. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 20:45:16 #585 i dont think i saw that one? is it on the sidebar with the rest of them? if not where is it? o.O wonder if i missed it? ::goes to look at sidebar:: by mareejaine8775 on 2007-01-06 20:45:49 Marbella wow thanks! now in totaly trippin!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOO! MACKEREL!!!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 20:48:25 whoa marbella if i didnt know that was you that vid wouldve scared me actually it did kind of scare me by mary on 2007-01-06 20:48:50 BTW.. before anyone complains.. YES the voice clips are intentionally staticky and hard to hear. SORRY.. You will turn the volume up and then have to suddenly turn it down or it will blast you. Maybe I'll work on it. Or maybe it just IS as it should be!! I'm going to try to upload to REVVER now. by Marbella on 2007-01-06 20:49:44 Yay Marbella! I knew you would come through! I immediately added that vid to my favorites! :) by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 20:50:33 Hey Mary, I cannot believe I actually accomplished creating anything SCARY. It's so "not me." It was lots of fun though. Cloud, I'm glad you're happy!! by Marbella on 2007-01-06 20:51:21 597 Apo thanks for saying that, i and probably others wanted to but we didn't have the authority or the eloquence by mary on 2007-01-06 20:52:05 Thanks Apotheosis. You're the BEST, sincerely. I'm really honored, since your videos are so well made that they inspire me. by Marbella on 2007-01-06 20:52:48 marble-head that was awesome!!!!!!!! i loved it!!! MACKEREL!!!!!!! and i already had the volume up because i was listening to Metalica so its cool. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 20:56:18 *blushes* by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 20:56:54 does anyone know about the frankiswaking stuff? he seems vaguely to be trying to make a drop, i think, in his "two becomes one" vid... i don't think i like it though he's pretty darn dark by mary on 2007-01-06 21:00:48 Marbella that video either made me thirsty or want to go to the bathroom...or both...at the same time. by MagicianX on 2007-01-06 21:04:19 And I am now your #5 subscriber Marbella. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 21:06:30 MArbella! your video is nucking futs!!! Hope I don't make anyone angry but i did nt what else to say!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:09:36 Yesterday, I was sitting in french class and since i already speak french its not the most interesting class, I went *meep* by ana on 2007-01-06 21:11:41 Sim7lizard i belive that statment is PG so i think its ok! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:11:57 Apotheosis, I subscribed to your site, too. I don't know why I didn't do it before, 'cause I hate to miss your videos. Sim7lizard.. Hmm.. What do I say to THAT? Hmm... Magician.. Yes, for those with difficulties urinating, I recommend that video be played often in the bathroom and in doctor's offices. OK.. I have to go for a while, take a BATH and continue my war with Revver.. Back soon, I hope!! by Marbella on 2007-01-06 21:12:42 Cloud you are way to cool for this world! if you wernt married I would ask you out... yeah the problem is also that I watch the Maury show... and I saw you on it last night... pretty bad... lol by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:14:16 Marbella i hope you are not doing both at the same time... watch out for electrocution... its not fun... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:16:17 Marbella: I am honored. You and I will eventually work together to bridge the chasm between this page and the forum. The planets will align, etc. ana: I also speak French. Doesn't *meep* translate to "create me a new video?" by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 21:17:17 when did i get married???????????????? wow i dont think i was ever THAT drunk.... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:17:41 Apotheosis meep translate in: " Espèce de créateur qui abuse de nous petit peuple donne nous notre vidéo! Du pain et des jeux!" by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:19:58 ApotheosisAZ watch out aligning planets is tricky bussiness and remember pluto is not a planet anymore... hahaha dwarf planet..... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:20:15 Maybe Bree's adoptive parents are Jonas' parents! The reason they adopted Bree was because they didn't like Jonas and faked their own deaths to abandon him! That or Bree's biological parents are Jonas' biological parents and they were separated as children. Jonas and Bree are probably brother and sister. by Lillygirl15 on 2007-01-06 21:22:21 Marbella, the video was awesome, but I am now craving mackrel or any type of fish for a midnight snack! *runs to the fridge* by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-06 21:23:56 lizard: Mon aéroglisseur est plein des anguilles. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 21:25:56 OK so sim7lizard my french must be REALLY rusty...I got the first part but the last part...bread and plays? I'm so confused... by Jess on 2007-01-06 21:28:19 i took french once.... it was not cool... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:30:58 Apotheosis je ne sais pas ce que tu essaie de dire mais ça ne fait pas beaucoup de sens... in french we do not write the word des if the word that follow starts with a vowel... so it would be : Mon aéoroglisseur est pleins d'anguilles! wich still is a weird phrase... but you know let me have une barbotine à l'orange pendant que j'y pense!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:31:15 Ok.. so I wasn't electrocuted, Cloud. MySilverTrumpet..be careful. Be very careful. Mackerel are attack fish that KILL. They even rise from the dead in their tin jars. Sim7Lizard: Let's see if I can translate that correctly, OK. Espèce de créateur qui abuse de nous petit peuple donne nous notre vidéo! Du pain et des jeux!†The creator who abuses us little peole gives us another video! The pain and the play! Did I get it right? For the record, I am 1/4 French and 70% Western European (mostly Celt.) I'm about 5% Choctaw Indian. Still, that doesn't mean I speak French well. Marbella is a name I "made up" because I love marbles. Truthfully. I didn't know it was the name of a Spanish villa or that it means "beautiful sea" in Spanish. Other fans have filled me in on these facts, via email. I speak NO spanish. by Marbella on 2007-01-06 21:31:52 Cloud... you make me really sad... tu me rends très triste! Jess tu parles français? Ça te rends au moins dix fois plus attirante!!! Teee heeee heeee by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:33:08 Oh, and most importantly, to Apotheosis: A mon avion,nous sont une famille. Nous a besoin de cooperate avec tout le monde!! (OK, so that sucked.. I haven't had French since I was 22, OK?) by Marbella on 2007-01-06 21:34:06 ACK!!! It's been 8 years since I had to speak French last...MUCH too long and i'm having issues following lol by Jess on 2007-01-06 21:34:14 No marbella but it was close the expression du pain et des jeux is an expression that was used in the old roman civilization saying that as long as people have bread and games... they will be faithfull to the emperor! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:34:57 jess i just said speaking french mad you ten times sexier! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:36:31 i dont speek any other language execpt english and that hard enough as it is... ok enough Metalica for tonight i have to go to bed soon so time for some Rascal Flatts to calm me down.. yeah i like both metal and country. and rock. call me weird everyone else does... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:36:42 #632 mad=made by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:37:06 i like Metallica!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:37:51 Sorry lizard, I learned my French from Canadians. They are a great bunch of people, but it's kind of like comparing American English and British English. That kind of brings me back to the whole LG15 thing, too, because of Gemma and Bree communicating. Also, I just want to put another link up for Marbella's vid, just so we don't bury it too soon! http://youtube.com/watch?v=gECaQPhgxoY by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 21:37:52 Sim7lizard - Je parle PETITE francais...J'avais l'habitude d'etre meilleur mais pas maintenant So I'm pretty sure I just butchered that lol by Jess on 2007-01-06 21:38:34 Apotheosis... I am canadian........ by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:38:52 Or maybe Daniel is her brother! Gemma could be her sister! Lucy could be her long lost aunt! Maybe the Watcher is really her father and follows her around to look out for her. Gemma warned Bree about the Watcher and because Gemma works for the Order it probably means that they can trust the Watchers. by Lillygirl15 on 2007-01-06 21:38:59 Sim7Lizard.. oops.. I forgot that bread was le pain. To Apotheosis: Is "cooperate" even a French word? With Translations: Marveleux Elegante Enchante Poisson (Fish/Mackerel,of course!!) Seduisante/Sexy by Marbella on 2007-01-06 21:39:36 Do you know what's really scary? I could actually be Bree's mom! Eeeek!! by Marbella on 2007-01-06 21:40:54 Don't worry Marbella, all I have is Tuna for TUNA SALAD! And fortunately I have a cat that loves to eat mackerel... dead or alive (*evil laughter*) so my home is protected from the evil of the Mackerel! mst by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-06 21:40:56 im BAAAACCCK... just saw dreamgirls with some friends. yes, i DO have a life outside of lg15 a small life but its a life. ok, joe, heres the dream: Grace's Shark Dream so basically i was in my backyard. i was sitting on the steps to our pool and i noticed a hammerhead shark swimming towards me. no one else seemed to care. i screamed and ran out of the pool. my little cousins, both my sisters, and my friend were bobbing around and playing in the water. i saw a leapord seal, two hammerhead sharks, this weird unidentifiable shark, and a great white shark was looming at the bottom of the deep end. my pool really isn't that big, so it was a bit crammed in there. i started screaming and trying to drag my older sister out of the water. she just laughed and said 'releax, grace. you're overreacting because youre so UGLY' (i think this has to do with the fact that for most of our childhood she called herself the pretty one and made fun of me. ouch.) i remember a huge leapord seal rushing with his mouth open towards my three-year-old cousin. and th en i woke up. something else worth noting: this is a dream i had about a year ago---- there was this huge pool. it was like someone took a slice out of the baylands. a big murky pool with slanted concrete sides. my friend and i were swimming around for "science class" (i dont know....). ashley tisdale and her friend were also there, all giggly and made-up and poofy and disney and blonde. we saw a baby shark swimming around and started panicking. the "instructor" (a scuba diver who looked suspiciously like my 6th grade volleyball coach) said it was fine, he wouldnt bite. my friend and i swam boldly right across the center to the other edge. the baby shark followed us. when i turned around, it had turned into a great white shark. it opened its mouth right over my friend's head. i screamed "kimmy!!!" and ducked underwater before i could see. but it was there, underwater, staring at me. i couldnt outswim it, so i decided to stay still. i remember waking up chanting "stay still, just stay still, stay still" and practically peeing in my pants. it was TERRIFYING. ever since then i have been deadly afraid of sharks.... haha. thats all. goodnight fellow lonelycrackers. by Grace on 2007-01-06 21:43:22 Cats are immune to the evil of mackerel :) Tuna is YUM!! Hey, WOW Apotheosis.. I cannot believe you DID that.. Thanks!! For Monty Python fans: The Larch. The Mackerel. Ok, off for Revver fight.. by Marbella on 2007-01-06 21:44:08 Sigh... I've got to watch some SNL! Night all!!! by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-06 21:44:19 OK, my French stinks. It smells like day-old Mackerel. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 21:45:03 lets have the few next comments en espanol! or in italiano!!! or in polsku!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:46:49 OK so does this commercial disturb anyone other than me?? Although I do find it totally amusing ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqX7VxW3wL0 by Jess on 2007-01-06 21:46:51 jess i am officaly freaked out now. *shivers* by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:49:12 that is really weird jess!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:49:34 sim7lizard - NNNNNOOOO!!!! I haven't had Spanish since primary school...I would have no hope there...I have basically no hope in French either lol by Jess on 2007-01-06 21:49:38 Yeah it is!! "It is the most sophisticated piece of technology you will ever pee on" *pee streaming down and bouncing off of strip* by Jess on 2007-01-06 21:51:26 did you saw the one of the i pod shuffle? by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:54:37 jess did you realy have to explain it!!! *shivers* by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:55:04 this one is funny too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBIe--9eB0U ok Let's make a new rule no more than 5 post a night about pregnancy test!!! LMAO by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 21:55:47 Sim7lizard i dont even want to know... time for bed nite all!!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2007-01-06 21:56:14 No I guess I didn't cloud, but I did anyway heehee :-D Just for fun (and to see all the guys squirm) O:-) by Jess on 2007-01-06 22:01:50 LOL!!! Sim7lizard, good rule, but do we have to hit the 5...I mean is it a quota or just something not to exceed? ;) by Jess on 2007-01-06 22:03:46 lol Jess it depends... if I have anything to do with the test I'd rather not ear about it!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 22:05:06 lol weellll ok heehee No more PT talk ;) Blame it on my boyf...he's the one that told me about the commercial lol by Jess on 2007-01-06 22:06:11 yeah yeah yeah it s always the bf's fault! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 22:10:14 allright that s enough for me!!! I m going for my 6 hours break!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-06 22:13:24 It is! It is!! I'm so glad you understand this...now if only I could get him to understand... ;) by Jess on 2007-01-06 22:14:10 ApotheosisAZ, It's true, my teacher was like "Questque(yeah yeah) t'as dit, Ana? Pourquoi tu veux regarde un nouveau video? On n'a pas un tele!!" And i just said, *meep* by ana on 2007-01-06 22:14:44 Time for bed here too...gotta get up early...Night all! by Jess on 2007-01-06 22:16:33 wtf is wrong with all of you? you dont even care to say anything about the video. you think its something special to be first? whats the big deal? you dont win anything whatever just wanted to say that *im out* btw i loved the vid by rawr123 on 2007-01-06 22:22:18 sim7lizard i love that add!!! it's so funny by rubymoon13 on 2007-01-06 22:31:50 ana: You should have told your teacher, "Pourquoi est-ce que je ne regarderais pas la vidéo d'ApotheosisAZ de la vidéo de ventilateur?" That is probably the most immodest thing I have ever said. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-06 22:37:06 ALL of you people excel beyond moi at Francais! Dans quelle quartier est-ce vous habitez? Accroache le manteau ici. Quelle est la date aujourd'hui? Sucky.. mostly all I remember is silly stuff like that. I guess I'm going to bed now. I'm very tired. Night-Night.. Until tomorrow.. Oh and GRACE.. Hey, I'm SURE there was a Mackerel in your dream. There is a Mackerel Shark, you know!!! by Marbella on 2007-01-06 22:47:28 Apotheosis,your French is SO good. You put us all to shame. Were you born in France? (I will read your response-hopefully!-when I wake up in the morning..) by Marbella on 2007-01-06 22:49:41 There better be a good video on my birthday (tomorrow, or the 8th)!!! by vegetarianham on 2007-01-06 23:02:32 ApotheosisAZ: La video de toi avec la ventilateur? Ca resemble un porno quoi?! haha... Am I missing something here?! by ana on 2007-01-06 23:09:24 damn son! by spitz719 on 2007-01-06 23:11:07 I got bored and made a cartoon of Attack the Orange and his evil sidekick Mackerel. Hopefully he doesn't get far in his evil plans... http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/mysilvertrumpet/Cartoon1.jpg OK. I'm going to sleep fo' real now! G'nite everyone! by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-06 23:30:14 Okay so I just started watching this. Is there a time when new ones are posted or is it just check in every now and then? I have no clue. by bitzy1983 on 2007-01-07 00:21:48 Jesus, people. What part of the Creators' message did you not understand? by samara on 2007-01-07 00:35:05 This show feels more and more like the fake show it is with each passing video. by FireInside on 2007-01-07 00:50:15 hey bitzy 675- no, they don't tell us when the next ones will be, but you can subscribe to get emails when new ones are posted. it's at the top of the board by mary on 2007-01-07 01:38:41 samara, the sweet creators told me "Comment as much as you like and ignore the flaming." and look, your post was unnecessary and added to the dreadful number of posts that makes uploading take sooooo long!! gasp!! and now i had to reply! making yet another post! oh my GOODness. i think probably the thing they were *most* concerned about was the "stop fighting" part. so, give it a rest. by mary on 2007-01-07 01:42:49 #666 rawr123: Oi, I know what you mean. It really annoys me to see a bunch of "fiiiirrsst!!!!11bbq" posts. Why post anything at all if all you're going to do is clutter the page with spam? Too bad the site doesn't automatically reject all pointless posts like those. by taisetsuna on 2007-01-07 01:43:32 Marbella: I was born in Florida. I live there now. The weather here is particularly lovely at this time of year. taisetsuna: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSTTTTT!111!!1 *Crisply salutes the General* Mackerel *meep* I don't double *meep* because it reminds me of the time the coyote caught the road runner. Don't make me relive it. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-07 02:07:07 and these? taisetsuna (send note) Says: January 7th, 2007 at 1:43 am #666 rawr123: Oi, I know what you mean. It really annoys me to see a bunch of “fiiiirrsst!!!!11bbq†posts. Why post anything at all if all you’re going to do is clutter the page with spam? Too bad the site doesn’t automatically reject all pointless posts like those. by mary on 2007-01-07 02:12:07 Finally someone agrees with me, thank you taisetsuna by DelacroixDraven on 2007-01-07 02:20:20 FFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!111!!!111!!!11!! *salutes the General* *meep* I think it's time for General Firstsayer to make another statement. Too many youngsters don't know about the purpose of the army anymore. Apo, I have double-meeped before, but only because I had forgotten about the time coyote caught the road-runner... :( I always imagined a Rebelgoddess's cat meeping happily away. by Dream on 2007-01-07 02:27:46 i wanted to mention that for any who think the storytelling here is sloppy or has too many holes and things like that, i think they do a good job keeping the vids together. there were two (2) times that i thought they screwed up. one was p. monkey's gender transformation, but that can be explained away in a number of ways so whatever, and the other was when gemma called p.monkey a wanker and a geezer. i freaked out at that vid, as anyone who was there may recall. however, other things have impressed me greatly, like how they used powell's dry cleaners and then the powell peralta skateboard to jog her memory. in jonas' very first vid he talks about being a "stacy peralta" guy. they went back to that and went "how will we get bree to reconsider the dry cleaners?" and somehow came up with "jonas will try to teach her to skate to make her happy and he will use a powell peralta board so the dry cleaners will be powell's" smart. oh incidentally, about the jonas/bree/orphans/connection? issue, i say a firm NO. NO SIR OR MADAM. his parents were lost 6 years ago. however, the "are you sure that's her dad?" thing... it did stick out. so: he recognizes the dad maybe? maybe he thinks he remembers his own parents being friends with this man? his parents had a lot of money didn't they...and jonas has never told us what his dad did to make money, just that he sailed a lot in his free time. i think its interesting they both have trust bonds with their dads. but not that relevant. anyway if this were true we'd expect jonas to be asking bree about it BUT the man was murdered and bree is devestated, all three are devastated and apparently both boys want bree to be "ok" before they start pelting her with questions. she never says "stop asking me what i know" she only says "stop asking if i'm ok; i don't want to talk yet." maybe those aren't different; maybe they are. i dunno. umm yeah so thats it by mary on 2007-01-07 02:39:10 Dream: I wonder if you ever noticed the nod I threw out to you in this vid.... which also seems to add a bit of humor to this situation as well... And I shall try to forget the road runner and coyote issue in the future :) *meep**meep* by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-07 02:39:32 http://one.revver.com/watch/115477 by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-07 02:39:48 oh no i have something else: jonas' being an orphan has been used to explain why he's so giving and generous. so it can be that simple. (is it ever, though?) apo and dream: i pretty much hate Looney Tunes. they ruined my childhood in many ways. the cartoons frightened me but i watched them because they were on the television and that's what you do. anyway they were scary and violent, i hated the coyote and roadrunner fights more than any of them (i pitied the coyote), and they ruined a lot of classical music for me for a long time. by mary on 2007-01-07 02:44:38 LooneyTunes probably has some cartooning or animation significance i should respect, but i still pretty much hate them. by mary on 2007-01-07 02:45:25 *hugs mary* by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-07 02:46:07 ahh apo an old classic. that was my favorite, i think. though i loved your cameo in the graduation ceremony... and your condolances was good too... well yes you're very talented and you raise the quality of the lg15 life by a large amount by mary on 2007-01-07 02:47:50 mary, it is really gracious of you to say so. I just like making people laugh! I have to call it a night now, as it is really late here, but before I go, I just need to get one thing off my chest: FFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT1!!!!!!!11111111! by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-07 02:50:31 Apo, aww, what a perfect double meep! *meep* *meep* You mean the "dream girl", Apo? :D I find it really funny how this video is embraced by forum and comment board people alike, though I guess for different reasons... lol. *salutes the General* (Though I never got my celebration pm after the last time I've actually been FIRST... hmmm....) by Dream on 2007-01-07 02:54:14 here's what i think about the whole situation...i dont think jonas and bree could or even should be brother and sister...what are the odds that jonas would find his long lost sister over the internet...out of the MILLIONS of people he found her? no...and you know it's sketchy that jonas showed up at all...i think i posted this before but jonas kinda just appeared...there was no intro to who he was or anything...maybe...he's part of the order...no no no...i dont think i would like it if he was...i believe jonas is just a friend however since they bree and daniel met up with him via internet i think they should be cautious...idk...i'm kinda ranting...i'll have clear thoughts when i'm more awake...but i do know this...bree and jonas=NO relation by mareejaine8775 on 2007-01-07 05:35:25 since it looks like the trio has returned to jonas' house, i'm starting to think jonas may be part of the order. the order probably knows where he lives because they have his credit cards and car. bree and daniel are smart enough to think of this possibility. why'd they go back? by wastinghope on 2007-01-07 06:03:43 jonas had to convince them they'd be safe. but how does he know??? hmmmm... by wastinghope on 2007-01-07 06:04:43 hmmm just wake up and i'm not really in the mood to read the 100 posts that were posted while i was sleeping so i just read like the last 3 and... #694 there was an intro, he introduced himself in the video comments of an old video, then he posted like more 2 video comments and then it all started to happen jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-07 06:25:18 woah - this is getting SOOOO intricate! i LOVE it! by Ang on 2007-01-07 06:54:04 At this point, I'm guessing there's just no plot. I mean, we have so many leads, so many clues to look into, but they seem to be going nowhere. Either there's no plot and they're moving slowly to see what we'll say, in order to come up with ideas -- or there is a plot and they're just moving too damn slowly. Honestly, I'm frustrated. I feel like I've wasted tons of time looking into things that never went anywhere. It's been months. What about the ceremony? What about Cassie? What month was she mentioned? We still know little to nothing about Bree's religion or The Order, and we still have no idea what the point of it all is or what's going on. I've been watching this since the day after she posted her first blog. I love this show, I'm one of the biggest fans of it. I defend the creators every chance I get. But it's been half a year now and we still have no answers. by Jackie on 2007-01-07 07:49:25 Just a thought; how can we be SURE Jonas's parents vanished 6 years ago? by logana on 2007-01-07 07:55:18 Hey all! This is totally OT, but wanted to share. It may help ease the anxiety in between video uploads. http://www.weffriddles.com It's addicting as well though! I found it yesterday afternoon, but I'm stuck on level 33 right now. by rebecky27 on 2007-01-07 08:58:48 poor thing... by chantel1314 on 2007-01-07 09:08:41 Hey everybody! I just woke up about an hour ago. I haven't caught up on comments yet. I DO have one thing to say.. The Mackerel killed the parents of Jonas! Maybe she killed Bree's parents, too? : O by Marbella on 2007-01-07 09:15:38 Hey ;) Good films.. Touched me even if they are not real.... by Slaytech on 2007-01-07 09:16:08 Ok Come ON, New Video nOW! by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-07 09:16:35 Jackie, #699--I also LOVE the series and have been following it about as long as you have, even though I discovered this web-site much later. I still LOVE the story. I believe it has become more creative and interesting over time. It DOES move slowly.. and I am SICK of Cassie. I want her resolved or dead. One or the other. So, in my last video, she is killed. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gECaQPhgxoY I also started a poll: Are you sick of Kassie? I hope you participated in that!!! www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4857 Sorry. I won't post these things to death. It's just that I cannot upload using Revver. It's something I'm still working on now. by Marbella on 2007-01-07 09:20:44 #323-Perky.. I agree there may be no "story arc," but how can one have an arc with the "story no one wants to end!" I believe the Creators ARE open to listening to us and our suggestions of where we want the plot to go. #698, Ang... The intricacy is one reason I love the series and I love to come here. Good point!! #700, Lagana...Yes, Jonas' parents were definitely killed at sea by a pack of mackerel. I know this for a fact!! But, seriously, you bring up an interesting point. Apotheosis.. I was impressed with your French because I couldn't decipher it! When you said you were from Florida and your French stinks like mackerel, I laughed and laughed. I still think it MUST be better than mine!! by Marbella on 2007-01-07 09:25:43 Someone said they wondered why Bree doesn't talk to her mom? When my mother died, my father and I bonded more deeply than we ever have before. I remember just being curled up on the couch with my head on my father's chest while silent tears poured down. For Bree to not have a relative and for her to resist sharing with Jonas and Daniel isn't healthy for her. It really isn't. I understand why she is wanting to isolate and shut down, but she's got to curb that tendency. by Marbella on 2007-01-07 09:28:33 OK.. I'm getting OCD.. badly!! I feel I need to respond to every single post on the board. STOP!! OK, I'm leaving for at least an hour or too.. Maybe there will be a NEW VIDEO when I return!! May you never meet "The Mackerel!" by Marbella on 2007-01-07 09:30:53 Hey Marbella, whats OCD? by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-07 09:37:30 I got a little bored last night (obviously) and made this: http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/mysilvertrumpet/Cartoon1.jpg Oooh the wonders of Paint! lol by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-07 09:44:17 If you'd also like to make an offer for the mobile website for www.lonelygirl15.mobi-you can send it to laze06@gmail.com by laze06 on 2007-01-07 09:52:14 I love the attack orange character mysilvertrumpet! wingless - ocd is obessive complusive disorder. which is something I think I have since I can't leave this stie alone. I keep telling myself not to come until there's a video posted, but here I am! by dwljk on 2007-01-07 09:53:20 #701 im stuck on level 3! ahh this game is evil! by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-07 09:54:13 ahhh thanks dwljik! by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-07 10:03:06 *peeking in* morning all.. chuckling at Jess... makin 'em squirm, I love it! no offense, cloud ;) k.. am trying to control my posting here a bit as well as having a busy weekend. Apo - your vids are, as stated a looong time ago, definitely one of my favorite parts of coming here.. thanks for the time and imagination you put into them! silvertrumpt, lmao, that's great.. I hope you're going to make more!! k.. laters all.. *meep* Meep* *meep* hoping all the mackerals in your lives have floated out to sea.... by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 10:10:00 #714 Try saying it out loud the way it's typed. Once you do this, you'll notice something missing? HTH! Make sure you write your answers down! The batch I'm on makes quite a few references to the answers to that 1st batch! by rebecky27 on 2007-01-07 10:29:56 Hmm...Heeeyyy everyone. by Maddie on 2007-01-07 10:32:50 701- Since you posted that, I've become addicted. The clues are like.. OpAphid's. by PaleNovember527 on 2007-01-07 10:39:49 wow we are so lame !!! Usually we are past 1000th comments already!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-07 10:45:34 Hey Wingless Earthbound, ALL of us on this board who are LonelyCrack addicted are showing some OCD traits. I have Asperger's Syndrome. We ALL have OCD traits. It's a part of the diagnostic criteria (fixed rigid patterns, insistence on sameness, love of ritual, etc.) So, technically we RARELY really have OCD, 'cause it's just part of AS. I do know one aspie who is also diagnosed with OCD. That's because his obsessive-compulsive traits are really over-the-top and interfering with his quality of life. by Marbella on 2007-01-07 10:56:31 MySilverTrumpet, OMG that was HILARIOUS!! I loved it. I think that we as a group could start a "cult classic" with this stuff, no matter what "some fans" say. YOU ARE TALENTED!! I love the orange holding The Mackerel!! You know, if Jonas is in the next video eating mackerel.. or if they just happen to go to the grocery store and pause to look at the mackerel or something.. I wil ROFL!!!! by Marbella on 2007-01-07 11:01:39 Hey thanks Marbella! and call me wingless :] by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-07 11:02:19 For those who have not viewed Silver Trumpet's fab cartoon, go here, asap: i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/mysilvertrumpet/Cartoon1.jpg I'm also going to add it to the Orange_Slurpee page on MySpace. I REALLY need to update that page. The problem is.. There are people who want to buy my books.. and I haven't finished updating them.. ACK!! Back to work, even though it's Sunday!!! by Marbella on 2007-01-07 11:04:50 alright I'm out everybodyyyyy. by wingless_earthbound on 2007-01-07 11:21:41 Thanks guys :) *blushes* If the rest of my day is as uneventful as yesterday, you'll probablly see more of Attack and the evil Mackerel sometime today or tonight! Mostly because rebecky27 has me addicted to weffriddles! lol by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-07 11:29:46 woah, this story's getting REALLY complicated . . . what's up with her parents not being her parents?! . . . what ever happened with Gemma? . . . guess i'll have to wait to find out by andrea1288 on 2007-01-07 12:08:55 sim7lizard - I think it's a sign that we figure they're waiting longer between videos now so why bother waiting around for a new one to show up when it probably won't happen... Maybe not though, who knows ;) by Jess on 2007-01-07 12:47:11 ** Please read, I've got an idea and posted this in the forums, fingers crossed you all like it!** ~ ~ ~ Hi there- Moving forward - I've been thinking about opening a forum for the current comment board, as all of us are trying our best to keep posts to a lower number than usual. The biggest problem I see opening a room in here and posting the link in the comment section is something that's been discussed in there many times.... mods moving threads they feel pertain to, say, Plot Development to that area with no warning. I, myself, when writing in here the other night, found myself 'joined' to another thread where this conversation had already been started. I understand that's necessary in keeping things pertinent, especially when there are SOO many different things being discussed.. but in a 'Common Chat', as it were, that will be disruptive and expecially confusing for newer posters who aren't yet familiar with this site in it's entirety. Would it be possible for us to have a Common Chat here without our posts flying off to another thread without our knowlege? Just a thought, thanks! I'm also going to post this in the Comment Area to see if, until a redirect link can be established, we could maintain our community without disrupting service! ~ ~ ~ by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:02:35 Gypsy,parts of your idea are good and your intent towards goodwill and cooperation is commendable. However, I strongly oppose moderation. I HATE threads being moved. When I post on the forum, I can hardly keep up with where things are posted as it is. This is a creatively "free flowing" board, and I would like it to stay that way.. at all costs. I prefer the idea that we set up like YouTube with the 10 most recent comments on the main board and the others on additional pages that may be clicked on by site visitors. Then, forum members cannot complain about reload problems. Thanks, Marbella by Marbella on 2007-01-07 13:06:41 Grace's shark dream interpretation. “so basically i was in my backyard. i was sitting on the steps to our pool and i noticed a hammerhead shark swimming towards me. no one else seemed to care.†This was the first shark to find Jonas’s parents floating at see after their boat sank. They didn’t see it coming. “i screamed and ran out of the pool. my little cousins, both my sisters, and my friend were bobbing around and playing in the water.†You cousins, sisters, and friend were practicing for the Olympics in the hope that bobbing would be put back in as an event. All thanks to Gemma. “i saw a leapord seal, two hammerhead sharks, this weird unidentifiable shark, and a great white shark was looming at the bottom of the deep end. my pool really isn’t that big, so it was a bit crammed in there.†A bit crammed? Was there any room left for water in this pool? Anyway. The leopard seal represents Bree, seals eat penguins. Penguins look like bald white guys in black suits, which represent the deacon we saw in the videos. This is your subconscious telling you that you want Bree to kill the penguins/deacons. The sharks were all the sharks that feasted on Jonas’s parents, the hammerhead wanted to share. They weren’t very filling so the sharks are skinny enough to fit in your pool. “i started screaming and trying to drag my older sister out of the water. she just laughed and said ‘releax, grace. you’re overreacting because youre so UGLY’ (i think this has to do with the fact that for most of our childhood she called herself the pretty one and made fun of me. ouch.)†You’re still mad at your sister; your repressed anger is manifesting itself in your LG15 dream. Stop trying to save her. Let’s see how pretty she looks after the sharks digest her. “i remember a huge leapord seal rushing with his mouth open towards my three-year-old cousin. and then i woke up.†We already know what the leopard seal represents. You suspect your cousin is a member of the cult/order. Eliminate her. by Joe on 2007-01-07 13:10:06 whats with the lack of posts? ive been coming on every few hours and theres only been like a 30 post increase since last tiem i logged on. lol by soccergirl on 2007-01-07 13:11:22 Marbella - not sure what the problem is, I asked that it be left alone and posts NOT be moved..... ??? And I agree, however money is an issue.. it may not be done as quickly as needed/wanted.. and, as I wrote, UNTIL that can be done, we do this to keep our community intact. I myself have been posting much less, as are others, out of consideration.. yet when there is an alternative while the solution is being worked on, I'm all for it. I posted that in the forums to see if we CAN have an unmoderated Chat, and posted it here to get feedback. by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:13:03 OK.. I will be unavailable until about 5 hrs from now.. hoping for new videos.. and hoping that our free-flowing board design is NOT destroyed in any way. Some posts seem "idiotic" as certain forum members might say, at first.. but then they grow into entertaining stories, such as Orange_Slurpee. The problem is, we don't know which ones WILL or WILL NOT grow in those directions. A moderator who erases those comments as "irrelevant" will ruin our group experience. Many seeds with potential to grow into beautiful trees will be mowed down as soon as they are planted. There are 65 people who post on this page who voted in The Best of 2006 within 2 days. Only 20 forum members did in one full week, and two sarcastically commented something like that the "12 pages about Bundt Cake" were the highlight of the year. No one has to like us. I just believe we have a right to exist and a reason to be here, just like we are. Shorten the number on the main page and add additional pages. That is ALL I support at the moment. Thanks again, Laura by Marbella on 2007-01-07 13:13:19 Gypsy, sorry. I didn't realize that. It sounded to me like you were bargaining/compromising on that topic and it sent me into "alarm" mode. I'll be back later.. by Marbella on 2007-01-07 13:15:07 ** scratching my head ** "Would it be possible for us to have a Common Chat here without our posts flying off to another thread without our knowlege?" I THOUGHT that was relatively straight-forward... by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:19:06 Jackie #699, I couldn't have said it better. The creators might know what the story is or will be. But it seems like so many TV shows like Lost, Twin Peaks, etc... They're dragging it out to keep it going. by Joe on 2007-01-07 13:25:05 Marbella said, "This is a creatively “free flowing†board, and I would like it to stay that way.. at all costs." No it isn't. This is a comment section to comment on the videos. The Creators even said so in comment #289. At all costs? Including ruining the experience for everybody? And this from the person who wanted unity? I don't get it. By the way, I think it very interesting that she refuses to talk to ther mother. Her dad must have really been pissed to risk his life to get information to Bree. by samara on 2007-01-07 13:31:21 Soccergirl, The forum got mad because we were having fun and they couldn't control it. And now everyone is posting less comments because they're afraid the forum will get what they want. Enjoy what little we have while it lasts. by Joe on 2007-01-07 13:32:24 Joe - if we could expand and have our own unmoderated forum board.. as a continnuation of this chat.. would that be ok with you or no? by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:38:29 I SOO cannot type.. because that exists over there for forum members now.. except for extreme abusive language... it's called the 'Party Thread'... by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:41:04 http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=67 by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:42:35 Joe, the forum got mad because the comments were bogging down the site for eveyone. They were right, too. They don't want to shut down the comments, they just want us to me more reserved with the chattiness. The Creators feel the same way. See #289. by samara on 2007-01-07 13:44:32 Joe, now I'm even gloomier than before... "Enjoy what little we have as long as it lasts." *sighs* samara, yes it is a video comment board. But we are also a community. I frankly don't care if it was never meant to be that way, beacuse it is so now. I don't want to "ruin the experience for everyone" but I want to keep my community. I do not want to be part of the forums. Move the comment board or whatever has to be done, but do it in a way that our community keeps intact. jc, tell us if you get an answer (or tell us where you posted your idea, then we can read for ourselves). soccergirl, people are scared to post. People even pm me if we are dead yet or why no one comments anymore. *sighs heavily* We are not yet annihilated or moved, everyone can still post. Quoting the Creators: "We will not shut this board down." ... "go ahead, post as much as you want… we’ll fix the server issues soon enough". by Dream on 2007-01-07 13:50:53 In the 'Get To Know Each Other' area of the forums.. there are 42,443 posts... and SIX PAGES of rooms ranging from warcraft to today's my birthday pages. To me, at any rate, that DOESN'T look like anyone is stifling creativity or the free-flow of ideas.. they just have it where it doesn't interfere with traffic viewing the vids.. that's all. And if we have our OWN.. Named "Common Comment Board' or some such.. and post the link here for anyone who wants to chat... AND it's topics aren't pulled elsewhere but left alone.. seems like the perfect TEMPORARY solution! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:51:03 jc, I'm not going to the Party Thread or the Off the Cuffs. I read through quite a few threads there today and what they think is a "friendly reply" is sometimes not the slightest bit civil in my eyes. by Dream on 2007-01-07 13:53:43 Will do, Dream.. I was going to post TW about it, but wanted some input from everyone here first. I LOVE this site. I LOVE my time, friends, posts and all the weirdness that goes on here. I HATE that we are, however inadvertantly, hurting it's growth by making the pages take so long to load. I want to have my cake and eat it too.. and personally, whether it's in the forums or on the moon.. I dont care WHERE we are as long as we can still maintain what we have now. by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:55:24 Dream said, "Quoting the Creators: 'We will not shut this board down.' … 'go ahead, post as much as you want… we’ll fix the server issues soon enough'." Uhm, I hate to break it you, but you really took those words out of context. Nobody ever wanted the comments shut down, not even the forum people. Also, the creators said,"3) If you still want to comment on the videos… go ahead, post as much as you want… we’ll fix the server issues soon enough" There's an important qualifier to that "post as much as you want" line. by samara on 2007-01-07 13:56:30 743 - This is true, but this has also deterred people from posting at all. The past few days the comments page just hasn't been the same. It's no longer a fun unmoderated place where we can *gasp* act silly while waiting for a new video. Now in order to keep everyone in the forum from getting their panties in a wad we have stopped enjoying ourselves over here. Not completely mind you, but mostly. I know I haven't posted nearly as much or even come to the site as much as before...and maybe that's a good thing. Yes, I'm still interested in the story, but that was only part of the fun of being involved on this site. The site has lost a huge part of it's appeal to me. I'm all for the idea of only showing 10 or so comments on the first page then linking to another page with all of them, but I honestly don't see it going back to the way it used to be. People will still find reason to complain about something...C'est la vie... by Jess on 2007-01-07 13:58:04 Dream.. we get that here too.. there will always be rude, outspoken or otherwise obnoxious people.. and a new thread.. Hmm.. how about 'Lonelycrack comment board'.. with us in it, will be an extension of what we have now. Just a thought. by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 13:59:16 Jess - I feel the same way, which is why I'm investigating this. OK, attempting to fight for it, even.. cause I don't give up easily.. and I don't see why continuing it elsewhere will stop it.. provided we can continue what we have here. by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 14:02:37 :( sad that people are fighting... I've been away all weekend, and just caught up reading here/in the forum, and it seems like there is nothing else to argue about anymore? I'm sure no matter what happens this community will stay intact, per the promises of the Creators!! I love reading what all the regulars post here and I think you guys are all great....and love that I was not ignored when I moved from a lurker to an active poster. I think this is a great "community" for new LG15 fans because it's fun and lighthearted....and a big part of the reason I love this series. It'll all get figured out...at the end of the day we are all just Bree fans, right? by juliacat on 2007-01-07 14:02:54 heya julia! Lol, not fighting any more, at least I'm not.. just racking my brain to find us a space to'be'. And yep.. that's our common addiction! 'Trying to think ahead here' Sorry for posting so much, btw.. but if a thread HAS to have a moderator.... whatabout we suggest Marbella or gnome or Joe? Or you, Dream? Would you be interested? someone to erase extreme vulgarity or the 1000 post thingys? by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 14:08:21 gypsy - I'm all for anything to get things back to "normal" (a term which I'm using very loosely when describing us ;) heehee) Personally I think a moderator of sorts would be a good thing...No, not to move posts, delete things that they find stupid or any of that nonsense. Just someone to get rid of the repetitive "new video" posts or posts that use excessive amounts of foul language...but the person would have to be a current user such as you, cloud, or Marbella. Does that make sense? by Jess on 2007-01-07 14:08:57 okay boo--I actually came here to see the new vid and chat with you all about it. I actually like the theory that Jonas may be related to Bree. He may very well have recognized her "Dad". I like the comming-of-age twist the plot has taken. And I really want to see a video from Gemma. by juliacat on 2007-01-07 14:11:10 jc_gypsy7, Sorry but the answer is no. I use to go to the forum in the beginning. Thinking maybe they had information there that would shed light on some of the mystery, they didn't. I didn't like the tone or atmosphere. I didn't like it then, and it is even worse now. Samara, Actually they want us to only post comments that they think should be posted. Guess what; you, me, and everyone else in the world is too stupid to decide what should or shouldn't be posted. Also I can watch the video while the rest of the page is still loading all the comments. Took over a minute to load the entire page and I was one minute into the video. I bet if we got rid of the forum the main page would load faster. Same goes for lgpedia. But there are people who like it, so it should say. I think the forum is useless but it never crossed my mind that it should be changed or removed. by Joe on 2007-01-07 14:12:44 There's no fighting here. I'm just concerned that you guys need to be reminded that the Creators didn't actually say it was okay to "post as much as you want." Why add fuel to the fire, know what I mean? by samara on 2007-01-07 14:13:20 gypsy--hope we can find a good solution to keep this "community" happy and fun as it has always been! I'll follow you guys wherever you go--long live Grape Nehi and meeping!! by juliacat on 2007-01-07 14:13:43 gypsy - sounds like we're thinking along the same lines ;) by Jess on 2007-01-07 14:18:22 Joe said, "Actually they want us to only post comments that they think should be posted. Guess what; you, me, and everyone else in the world is too stupid to decide what should or shouldn’t be posted." I think you're going overboard here. "They" just want the site to load properly for everyone, and they are concerned that new people are turning away because of slow loading pages. That's been well covered over there, with research to prove it. The forum isn't slowing the server down because it is built to process that kind of traffic properly. Read what Ralf said about the comments and how there's is a loading problem. It may be too technical for most of us to understand but there are a lot of people who agree that's the problem. Besides, the Creators (you know, they guys who own and run this place) have set the guidelines. Again, see comment #289. by samara on 2007-01-07 14:19:55 jc_gypsy7, I wouldn't make a good moderator. I hate the "NEW VIDEO" x1000 as much as everyone. But like I posted earlier, no one is smart enough to decide what should or should not be said. Especially me. by Joe on 2007-01-07 14:21:03 Well.. I posted my idea.. will check back in later to see if anyone else is interested.. lol, thanks julia, and *meep*! to you too! Joe - I guess I'm dense, but if one of us could delete vulgarity, but aside from that, left everything alone.. and we did it in the forums.. and it's all us, all the same people.. the comment tone would be the same.. bananas!!.. lol.. the idea exchange would be the same, since it's, again, ALL US.. again.. I personally don't care if it's here, the forum or on pluto that it occurs.. JUST THAT IT DOES. Why give up?? To me, quitting makes no sense. Making the site crash and burn cause new users don't realize they can click on the vids ASAP is beyong pointless.. it's plain out hurtful to something we ALL care about. will check back later to see if this is something TW should be im'd about. thanks for listening, in any case. by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 14:21:14 Ok, I haven't posted much since this whole forum/board thing got going...it's just not the same. But I just posted this over in the concerns and complaints section of the forum and I think it belongs here too: "By the way, there are some forum regulars over on the comments board right now voicing their concerns to specific commenters and posting things that are clearly not video comments. If we are going to keep the comments board relevant to the video, then those people will have to help lead by example and should PM the video commenters to whom they want to speak and move the discussion to this thread if necessary. Please do not not add to the problem and then complain about it here later. Thank you everybody for your mutual cooperation!" I am all for everyone posting here, there and everywhere, but if you are going to complain about posting non-video-related comments, then you shouldn't be posting them either. Use the "send note" button, that's one of the reasons it's there. by krig on 2007-01-07 14:23:27 748 yep, samara, I choose the part I liked. Bethy, want to post this in the forum? "Dream's not responsible." Nope, I'm not, I'm sick of fighting and having to think about every word I write. 749 Jess, it's exactly right, we have stopped enjoying ourselves. And after this weekend of fighting and encouraging people to be reasonible and not yell and generally help and not go away completely, I'm ready to give up and go away myself. This used to be the place where I got a break from real life with its fights. It's not anymore. And at this point I honestly doubt the fighting will stop until the comment board is shut down. It wasn't meant to be a community, so there is no community. Go to the forum or the chat, people, it's all there! I personally will go watch the vids on YouTube. 753 jc, thanks for the nomination but no. Call me irresponsible or prejudiced but I don't believe we are going to get a thread at the forum that resembles our board here. I'd nominate you or Joe as moderators. 761 Joe, you would be a good moderator EXACTLY BECAUSE you think like that! Sorry. I guess I am just oversensitive. Can't change it. So I'm off for tonight. by Dream on 2007-01-07 14:26:00 I think the comment board and forum people should band together to attack the hater commentors on YouTube, lol. Really, though, a seperate comment page would solve everyone's problems. Ok, back to lurking... by Layne on 2007-01-07 14:29:28 Jonas somehow knew that her "dad" wasn't even her real father. Remember his reaction when he first saw her dad? He kept saying "Are you SURE?!" ...He knows :o by Brizzle on 2007-01-07 14:30:01 i will say it again i will never go the the forums. ever. even if everyone else does. i will be right here *plants battle axe* RIGHT here even if i am alone. and the creators said to post as much as i want so untill they say i cant, im going to do it and none other than the creators will tell me other wise. done deal. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-07 14:33:11 btw hi everyone Layne, attacking the youtube haters is the best idea ever! *raises battle axe* cool. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-07 14:35:01 well, i've been kinda away today, and i'll be without computer tomorrow, i think that daniel will post a new vid today or tomorrow, he's online at myspace....guess i'll have to go to an internet cafe to watch it :| but i'll be back tuesday so... bye guys (and girls of course) jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-07 14:53:58 I think it is about time we found out what happpened to Gemma. It's been almost a week since Brothers video showing him targeting her in an ally. by robtomorrow on 2007-01-07 14:55:00 767 - Cloud, you are not alone! *swing sling shot above head* i for one will NOT be using the forum, firstly i dont want to have to get another name and password sorted out, lol. second, its not really friendly is it! and thirdly, why should we move? im all for the 10 comments and link to all comments thing, and untill then we carry on as normal, the creators said they were sorting it soon so lets just get on with it until then. Keep meeping and drinking nehi till we DIE!!!! Go defence force. oh and i though jess did really great acting on this video - bellisimo! by sarahboo on 2007-01-07 14:56:43 Yes, I agree. Gemma hasn't been around much...and we have no definite idea from Brother's video or the last 3 posted by Bree and Daniel whether or not she is dead or if she had anything to do with the incident in the parking garage (Yes, I do know Brother's video wasn't shot in the same location, but the parking lot was attached to the hotel, no? So she was around somewhere.). Even if her evil motives have been exposed, it would still add so much to the plot if we could hear from her. by krig on 2007-01-07 15:01:43 Hey everyone! It looks like things are heating up again :( I thought I'd lighten the mood with an extremely short Attack of the ATTACK!!! Numbah 2: http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/mysilvertrumpet/Cartoon2.gif It is Attack's final warning!!! What will happen next?? And why can the Mackerel shoot lazerrr beams??? by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-07 15:06:05 false alarm, daniel is offline again, cya ppl jo by Jo_16_2 on 2007-01-07 15:06:44 jc_gypsy7, You're not dense. I know the evil of censorship, and this is censorship. And I'm not exaggerating when I say evil. I shouldn't have said anything earlier. They won and will get what they wanted. I would just like to enjoy this place while we still have it. Time to go out for dinner. Here's hoping for a new video when I get back. by Joe on 2007-01-07 15:12:37 FIRST! by iamcool on 2007-01-07 15:25:47 mysilvertrumpet - ok. nice cartoon? uh yeah.... did YOU take your pills today?? just.... wow. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-07 15:30:45 just a funny thought - with all the nehi drinking talk I had an image in my mind that the company who makes it all of a sudden it's profits going up because we're all buying it and they are scratching their heads trying to figure out what advertising they did to make that happen.... by dwljk on 2007-01-07 15:35:48 778 - hahahhaha maybe they should pay us, well i mean pay the creators then we can get the site sorted so its good for everyone :) im pretty sure we have givin them more sales by sarahboo on 2007-01-07 15:43:03 i read the damn forums again and i am deffinantly not welcome here any more so i am officialy singing off. good bye all. im sure i will see ya around this small world again. by cloud_ax on 2007-01-07 15:43:55 good nite and good luck... by cloud_ax on 2007-01-07 15:48:00 cloud_ax, Yeah, Winter break isn't over for me for about a week, and there's only so much you can do until you finally get bored. Well, I got realllly bored, and this is what happened. I also did it because I needed something to distract me from all of the crazy stuff happening between the video commenters and some forum people, and I thought others would appreciate a little trip to fantasy land until a new lonelycrack video came and no. I did not take my pills :) lol. by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-07 15:49:16 Um i just got on and from reading severel of the comments it looks as if something happened to make everyone bolster their defense, as far as I can gather it seems to be something with the forums or youtube...or both. May i request for some info to shed some light on this? by MagicianX on 2007-01-07 15:54:46 erm... just kidding. I don't need to take pills... unless I go crazy without my dose of lonelycrack... ah well, I'm out too! Maybe I'll work on another cartoon of Attack of the Attack... and cloud_ax: YOU ARE WELCOME HERE!!! Let the hater's hate, it's not our fault we're great, we'll all just have to wait, and see what the creators can create... let's just hope it's not too late... Oh... My... Goodness... I've just reached a new low on my bordem-o-meter. I'm leaving fo' real now before more weird things come out of my mouth... or keyboard??? hmmmm... I'm going to a party, I need human interaction!! BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-07 15:55:54 silvertrumpet said, "I also did it because I needed something to distract me from all of the crazy stuff happening between the video commenters and some forum people" There's nothing 'between' the two groups. Seriously you guys making a fight out of s genuine issue. It's not an us vs. them thing. It is a server problem that needs addressing and whether you want to admit it or not the comments are causing some problems with the whole site. by samara on 2007-01-07 15:56:34 theres a new video up by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-07 16:05:36 serously people who do that. youre evil by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-07 16:12:13 i take that back. youre not evil. you just are making me go crazy with excitement! and then making me depressed again. rawrrrr by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-07 16:13:05 NNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!!! I just signed back on and cloud_ax said he is not welcome here :-( You can't leave us cloud!!!! This saddens me greatly :-( *sniff sniff* *tear* *SOB* by Jess on 2007-01-07 16:13:52 I am so tired of this debate. The community is shattering and we can't enjoy ourselves anymore. This is so sad, and we really are losing people over something stupid. Just to clarify... I will not now nor will I ever participate in a forum. Period. I don't care if the Queen of England or Bree stops in for daily visits. I don't like the format, the people, or the censorship. If the comments page becomes "moderated" beyond removing swear words and excessively-long "NEW VIDEO" posts, I will not be back. The first time a "FFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!", a *meep*, or a discussion on the merits of Grape Nehi gets deleted is the last time I will participate at all - through this site, through YouTube, or through Revver. I'm confident I am not the only one. This is a tragic situation. I cannot express how PISSED OFF I am that a few vocal people with no inclination towards compromise have allowed us - the easy-going, welcoming Defense Force - to become so fragmented and bitter. jc_gypsy, while I am sure that we appreciate your attempts to smooth the situation... we have no interest AT ALL in the forum. Period. It could be dropped into the ocean off the coast of New Jersey (I think Joe should get to do it) and no one here would cry about it. People with a bitch to pitch... instead of talking about what things are "supposed to be" and criticizing... how about offering some solutions that don't involve this community giving up its entire existence while yours is untouched? ralfthedog worked out a software fix in a matter of hours to improve the download time... gemmas flatmate suggested putting only ten comments on the home page and linking to another page for the comments. I think giving the Creators a few days to fix things up is not unreasonable... but no, instead you continue to bash this community. "This isn't supposed to be used for this." Well you know what, it IS used for community. So come up with solutions that benefit LG15 AND its community, or go back to your troll cave... I mean forum... and complain there amongst your own people. by Perky on 2007-01-07 16:14:40 Hi commenters who are angry about the forum: Please understand that I am not trying to provoke and I am not perfect at all. However, please know that moderators only move unrelated threads to the right spot. (For example, posting about Bree in the DanielBeast section or posting a complaint in the Plot section.) No one really cares what anyone posts in the Getting To Know Each Other and the Off the Cuff section. It seems like some people only post there. In other words, feel free to start a thread for your own community. That Random Party thread goes on for like 400 plus pages and I have never posted on it. The forum does have cliques and sometimes I feel ignored. But the same holds true anywhere. But it does serve a purpose. Theories are organized and info catalogued for future reference. In addition, when I saw the lgpedia listing of a bunch of fan videos that I had never heard of before, I wish that someone would have posted links in the fan video section, so I could have seen them sooner. Take advantage of the forum. No one owns it, but the lg producers. Have fun with it. I hope this hasn't been a waste of your reading time. (I am too talkative, which is why I post at the forum. By the time I finish writing and spell-checking, twelve people could have posted already.) And forget chat (I just can't keep up...Oh I have tried...) Good luck...Bye by gogo on 2007-01-07 16:20:06 cloud_ax just dont go in the forums! you are welcome here on the comments page! DONT LEAVE :( by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-07 16:20:43 Parky said, "People with a bitch to pitch… instead of talking about what things are “supposed to be†and criticizing… how about offering some solutions that don’t involve this community giving up its entire existence while yours is untouched? ralfthedog worked out a software fix in a matter of hours to improve the download time… gemmas flatmate suggested putting only ten comments on the home page and linking to another page for the comments. I think giving the Creators a few days to fix things up is not unreasonable… but no, instead you continue to bash this community." Ya know, if you actually read what was being said over there, you'd know that's exactly what's happening. They aren't trying to get rid of comments and i for one am tired of the uninformed comments here. nobody is trying to get rid of the comments. ================================================= ================================================= Everybody needs to reread comment #289 again. Read it closely, without taking phrases out of context. ================================================= ================================================= by samara on 2007-01-07 16:21:47 I wonder how many people have been turned off to this site completely (video comments page AND forums and even the show altogether) because of the unnecessary fighting that has been going on the past few days? People used to be welcomed with open minds and many *meeps* to this comment board, now all they see is a bunch of arguing and people leaving because of all this nonsense... by Jess on 2007-01-07 16:22:17 You know why everyone is really arguing? Because we've all turned againist each other because of the delays in videos. Our addicition is getting the best of us and having just a couple of minutes of video here and there is driving us litterally crazy. by dwljk on 2007-01-07 16:26:21 why cant people say bitch fuck shit asshole cuntface ect./ why does it have to be moderated- don't the actors in these vids also use swear words? moderate that shit- whats the big deal by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-07 16:26:28 i think they should just make it so it shows like 50 comments and then you can click see all comments. that way we get to comment but it doesnt take forever for the page to load for people who dont comment. by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-07 16:26:32 Sigh... I can't stay away from the LonelyCrack... Samara, I didn't say forum people as a whole, I said "some forum people" That was a statement that was my own opinion about my own feelings and actions. I personally had a problem, it is not to say that all those in the LG world have a problem with each other. I think those in the forum section are a smart and equally awesome lot of fans! I was just stating that "I" needed to do something to distract me from what was going on. I guess I could have worded it better :) , but I guess I can fix that now: " I also did it because I needed something to distract me from all of the crazy stuff happening between a FEW of the video commenters (and it is plural) and a FEW of the forum people." Contrary to your belief, there is something (albeit not between the groups as a whole) going on, but I do appreciate, your summary of the core issue at hand. It definitely is a server problem that DOES need addressing (as you said), and from the creator's posts, it seems as though a workable solution is in the works. OK. I have to get ready for some real life interaction and partying :) So if you want to discuss this further with me, and maybe even delve deeper into anything I said, please send me a note :) Night all! (for real this time. No more posts till tomorrow!:) ) by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-07 16:26:47 dwljk i agree. this addiction is strong! by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-07 16:27:35 dwljk - By golly I think you've got it!! If they would just post videos more often the problem would be solved!! :-D heehee by Jess on 2007-01-07 16:29:32 Can we just all stop this nonsense!! Yes i am kinda mad because the ppl at the forum try to shut us down... but it won;t ahppen!! but by ppl here at the comments, my "peer" by ssaying they will leave and all, they all are giving power to BETHY and her clan to belittle us. Let's stand for what we are, LONELYCRACK-HEADS United!! Let's not let them intimidates us and just ignore them, progressivly they will stop bothering us. An to all Forum users lurking trying to get this side of the train taracks moderated... Comments imply freedoom of speech and opinion, if it get moderates then it will not be a comment, it will be just an approved endorsement... I hope we all get along, it is painful as it is... LG15 Defence Fprce it is timemt o defend our homeland!!! Let's all of us repeat: WE ARE THE VIDEO COMMENTS COMMUNITY AND WE WILL NOT BACK UP!!! WE ARE ALL LG15ND WE WILL NOT TAKE THIS!!! FORUMS, YOU ARE ALL OUR BROTHERS IN THIS ADDICTION (LONELY-CRACK) AND WE LOVE YOU, EVEN IF IT KILLS YOU!!! *passing out the grape nehi* CHEERS TO THAT!!! *meeeeeeeeeeeeep!!!!* by rosieiswatching on 2007-01-07 16:30:13 The only fighting that has gone on is from the commenters who felt they were attacked because they assumed the forum people wanted the comments to be shut down. That's not what happened but some of you guys will never be convinced of that. I'm going to stop commenting now because 1) It's not a comment about the video and the Crators specifically said to use the comments for talking about the video. 2) Some of the forum people are right. No amount taling is going to change your minds and that some of you are really are spoiled brats who are the ones refusing to compromise for the good of the whole community. 3) I refuse to be one of those in #2 by contributing to the problem. by samara on 2007-01-07 16:31:40 I mean seriously (yea, I'm a Grey's fan)on tv, we get, maybe 40 to 45 mins a week with a show that we can dwell on. Then comes along you tube and the addicition of lonelygirl where we're getting 10 mins a week tops? You can't expect the couch potatoes of America to accept this downplay of time that they're addicited to go over easy... This lonelycrack heads are sitting at home, ignoring everything in the world that they should be doing, slapping their arms waiting for another video to inject Can you pass the lighter? by dwljk on 2007-01-07 16:34:57 I've been watching this for awhile, but I've never posted.... well at least now we know this girl can really act...now I'd like to see if the creators can really write...give us some plot to go on, geez. also..whoever posted the weffriddles link is a genius..this stuff is so much fun. by shleeee on 2007-01-07 16:36:19 shleeee-im stuck on 14. theyre almost as addicting as lonelycrack1 by jennamarie xo on 2007-01-07 16:37:55 I went to the web site that they gave for the weffriddles link and I didn't understand where to go to the riddles...can someone explain? by dwljk on 2007-01-07 16:40:06 samara - I would post this on the forum but I wouldn't know where to begin to look for you... I don't know of a single person on here who hasn't agreed to some sort of compromise such as the only showing a certain amount of comments on a page, most of us do not like the layout or the way the forums are run so we would prefer to stay here. I won't quit commenting on this page, but I have kept my comments to a minimum until they can get something worked out. Hopefully this will happen soon. Personally I will not resort to name calling because I find that immature and it doesn't help solve the problem, it only makes people more upset, but if you believe that we are all "spoiled brats" you have made the right decision in leaving here and going back to the forums. by Jess on 2007-01-07 16:42:34 samara, I have read every single word at the forum thread related to this topic. I have also read the moderators over and over attempting to get forum participants to offer SOLUTIONS instead of constantly COMPLAINING and INSULTING. You don't like the comment boards as they have become. That's fine. We don't like the forum as it exists, either. But up to this weekend, you never once heard of any of us on the comment boards refer negatively to the forum except to say it is an unwelcoming place to be. Look back at prior video comment boards. How many "newbies" have joined up just in the past few weeks? Obviously, the comment board as it is has merit. Do us a favor and stop trying to change it without offering solutions that preserve the general tone of the boards. We know it's hopeless to change the attitude at the forum... obviously you're lacking in bundt cake and Grape Nehi over there... so realize that we like our community just fine as well, complete with download times (AGAIN, soon to be remedied by ralfthedog's software fix) and "pointless" messaging. And #791 gogo Sincerely, thank you for offering your input. But your comment illustrates the problem we have with the forum - we don't want to have to look for our missing posts because someone decided they belonged somewhere else (or that they needed deleted entirely!). by Perky on 2007-01-07 16:42:41 Perky said: "If the comments page becomes “moderated†beyond removing swear words and excessively-long “NEW VIDEO†posts, I will not be back. The first time a “FFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!â€, a *meep*, or a discussion on the merits of Grape Nehi gets deleted is the last time I will participate at all - through this site, through YouTube, or through Revver. I’m confident I am not the only one. This is a tragic situation. I cannot express how PISSED OFF I am that a few vocal people with no inclination towards compromise have allowed us - the easy-going, welcoming Defense Force - to become so fragmented and bitter. " This is the funniest debate I've ever heard in my life. People are falling on their swords to defend their right to post this inanity. A true tragic injustice if there ever was one. Here's a simple solution: If you don't like the rules the Creators have established for their comments board, pony up the cash for your own. You do not have the unlimited right to use somebody else's board as you see fit, without any responsibility or consequences. by dogger on 2007-01-07 16:43:26 Bree says that Daniel and Jonas "don't understand what [she's] dealing with" ... that seems a little self-centred of Bree. Both of Jonas' parents died when he was much younger than Bree. Who is she to say that he doesn't understand? Pretty decent acting in this one, especially at the beginning. by loser078 on 2007-01-07 16:48:17 Last time I checked, this was a consumer-based economy... and as a consumer, I have merely stated the terms under which I am willing to utilize this product. Of course the Creators are more than welcome to do whatever they want, it's their gig. But I believe strongly in the responsibility of voting with my feet, and should this product become unresonable to my standards - similar standards to many other users, I may point out - I will exercise my right to leave. That's capitalism, baby. ;-) by Perky on 2007-01-07 16:52:08 * in for a sec * Ok, folks. my apologies. I didn't mean to start a war.. just trying to see if an UNMODERATED FORUM BOARD for us would interest anyone. I shall cease and desist bringing this up. laters! *meep*! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-07 16:53:27 I may also add that the Creators did not make any attempt of ANY KIND to curtail our discussions until the forum started this dispute. Just something to think about. by Perky on 2007-01-07 16:53:58 Capitalism? Capitalism usually only comes into play if there's an actual exchange of goods and services. Since leaving a comment on the board is completely free of charge, I'm not sure how much power any of us have as consumers. by dogger on 2007-01-07 16:58:05 Well now, this IS interesting. I was on the wave that left the original phorum 1.0 because of LACK of moderation and an organized place to discuss LG. The wind is blowing the other way I see. Kinda bizzaro world... I think all should sit tight and let the tech fixes work their magic. I don't quite understand this little sub-culture you have created here, but so be it. It seems harmless and fun and beyond slowing down the page loads, which the tech fixes should help with, I think the phorumites should leave you alone... Never boring in LG Land is it! by Curious George on 2007-01-07 16:58:55 I only read like three pages from the Forum that Silver Trumpet sent me and I really didn't want to read anymore...they started to recycle ideas and it seemed repetative. Anyways when I load the page it takes me under 20 seconds so if someone id having a hard time loadiing it's on their end and even with the couple thousand comments before I still loaded under 30 seconds. I seriously didn't know how seperated this place was with three different "communities" comments, chat, and forum. by MagicianX on 2007-01-07 16:59:14 Just to address Jess and Perky. I called some of you spoiled brats because that's the only description I can come up with. The forum people just asked for, and all of them (including the more outspoken ones) have come up with and agree on some soultions. I like those soultions and so I have nothing to add to that. The Creators in post #289 did not "post all you want" about anything you want. That was in reference to comments about the videos. Despite that, I have seen comments right here from people who have twisted what they said or outright ignored them. Some have said that it is censorship or destroying their creative juices. Thae fact is it doesn't matter. This isn't your guys' website and I think some of you don't realize that the resources being used cost money. The Creators have spoken and the buck stops with them. Quit blaming the forum people or trying to find a scapegoat for your displeasure. Like dogger said, "If you don’t like the rules the Creators have established for their comments board, pony up the cash for your own. You do not have the unlimited right to use somebody else’s board as you see fit, without any responsibility or consequences." by samara on 2007-01-07 16:59:23 please creators post another video before these people start killing each other. thanks in advance by dwljk on 2007-01-07 16:59:56 #802 samara I have no personal problem with you, but I think that your continued criticism of those who are posting off-topic is hypocritical. If you truly refuse to contribute to the problem, then you should refrain from posting off-topic criticisms and PM those commenters with whom you want to speak or try to get them into the complaints and concerns section of the forum. Otherwise, you ARE contributing to the problem. I hate to resort to crankiness and pettiness, but as of the time I write this message, you have contributed 11 off-topic comments since this video has been posted. Only one of those even remotely addressed the video (#738), and that was one sentence tacked onto to the end of a criticism for posting off-topic. See also my post #763. I welcome all who wish to contribute, but if you are going to criticize perople for their behavior, than don't replicate the very behavior you wish to stop. I will continue to keep my comments to a minimum until the Creators present us with their solution. This is my personal decision and I hope is for the benefit of the Creators, since they have already given us so much and deserve our cooperation. by krig on 2007-01-07 17:02:06 you guys I vreated a room for the LG Defence FORCE IN THE cHAT ROOM by rosieiswatching on 2007-01-07 17:04:27 Peky said, "Last time I checked, this was a consumer-based economy… and as a consumer, I have merely stated the terms under which I am willing to utilize this product." OMG that made me laugh. Perky, since when are you PAYING for this product? Do you realize that The Creators are actually paying for YOUR ability to be here? Do you realize the enormous costs involved in running a site with this much traffic? You're getting this "product" for fee and you're making demands of them? That's why I called some of you spoiled brats. They give and give and give and yet you still make demands of them? You guys are utterly defining the term. by samara on 2007-01-07 17:08:25 I know I just opened up a can of worms. So no one has to go through my posts and see if they were relevant, I just did it: Including this one I have posted 10 times on this video. 4 were comments on the video 5 were comments addressing the debacle with the comments board 1 was a direct, personal comment that had no relevance beyond hoping to cheer someone up who had a terrible association because of this video You can criticize me for the 6 that had nothing to do with the video, but I have never stated that ALL comments should be related to the video. 5 of those 6 were directed at resolving this situation. I HAVE said that everything should be respectful and relevant, so I guess that one personal comment was wrong. But if caring is wrong, I don't want to be right! by krig on 2007-01-07 17:09:23 814 Yeah capitalism... like the generation of revenue based on views of videos and ads. In exchange for the service provided by me by clicking on said videos and ads. Or like the generation of revenue based on donations or purchases of apparel. By the consumer. That's capitalism. 815 Thank you. by Perky on 2007-01-07 17:10:08 dwljk - I agree! Quick! Video needed before WWIII breaks loose! ;) by Jess on 2007-01-07 17:10:39 Ugggg. krig, you're right. I'm sorry. I said I would stop and I couldn't help myself. But I cam really beginning to understand the frustration some people are feeling. Good day. by samara on 2007-01-07 17:11:03 samara the Creators chose this forum. For free viewing. There is an exchange here that the Creators appear to be satisfied with. The deal is, we participate, they return upon our participation. THEY NEED US HERE as much as we want to be here. THEY are not making demands upon us. THEY have let us be in our merry little place until two days ago. YOU are the ones having the problem that THEY now have to solve. Stop calling me a brat, I am an educated adult and I resent the implication that you are any less so. by Perky on 2007-01-07 17:14:20 video, here video, here boy come quick before they all start saying red rum red rum pleeeassseee by dwljk on 2007-01-07 17:17:24 :( I'm just as bad as the rest here. I'm sorry guys. Perky said, "THEY are not making demands upon us." What part of #298 didn't you get? It doesn't matter what happened prior to that. by samara on 2007-01-07 17:19:57 Shoot...I'm sorry. I meant #289, not #298. I'm sign out now, I think. This whole thing is really pointless. by samara on 2007-01-07 17:22:42 In the next video i sure hope Bree is gonna go postal I know I would if someone killed someone(even if they were'nt the real parent)close to me I'd bust into the Order HQ and mow em all down. We've had comedy, drama, suspense, somewhat of romance, a little bit of horror, and now we need some true action. by MagicianX on 2007-01-07 17:25:35 samara - I think she just meant that before the people in the forum started complaining they didn't try to restrict us in any way...I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure she did... by Jess on 2007-01-07 17:26:04 Perky - as you said, revenue is generated by clicking on an ad, making a donation, or purchasing apparel. No revenue is generated when you leave a comment. In fact, the server space needed to hold and store such comments is a COST. Demanding that the Creators incur more cost so that you may continue to indulge in an activity that generates no revenue for them is not going to be a tenable position for you or anyone as a consumer. But, according to their post, they are going to do so anyway. They are going to purchase more server space and hire a programmer to fix the issue. It's far more than I would have done in their place. What I find amusing is the grousing about their perfectly reasonable request to limit the comments to the videos or utilize the forums until the situation can be resolved. You may not like the spoiled children characterization (not singling you out specifically), but the posts I'm viewing from everyone lead to only that conclusion. by dogger on 2007-01-07 17:26:26 I suggest everyone help me be capitalist swine and click my most recent video "Consult with the Doctor" and show poppa some love and click the stupid little ad at the end for a change...I'm only down about 3 grand on video related expenses..but who's counting..good thing the Order's unwilling donations help to fund my videos or I'd be paying for it right out of my own pocket...just like the Creators. http://one.revver.com/watch/135502/flv/affiliate/28541 by LordGreystoke422 on 2007-01-07 17:26:34 btw - has anyone else noticed how much faster the site is?? I think they implemented something to help the speed already. It used to be that after 500 comments the site would start to slow. I believe if anyone is still having any download time issues it is just their internet connection and not the site by Jess on 2007-01-07 17:30:19 I was just about to say something about the speed. And working in the computer field I do have to give them credit, when you run into a problem with networking and servers, it doesn't help to have so many people demanding from you. It's stressful enough already. I feel sorry for them. so I take back my demand for a video. trying to make peace with creators.... by dwljk on 2007-01-07 17:32:58 Jess I noticed that as well... I'm pretty sure they were toying with the programming earlier this weekend, because I was only able to load half of the page during a few reloads. dogger - you have missed my point entirely. If I am not here, I do not click on ads or watch videos. If a bunch of people aren't here, they won't be clicking on any ads or videos either. A significant part of the reason many of us stay around is precisely due to the camaraderie at the comment boards (prior to this weekend, of course). If those of us who are dissatisfied do end up going (I doubt that will happen because the Creators are magic men and will come up with some satisfactory solution), I'm sure there will be people to replace us, so it probably won't change anything at all. But no one wants dissatisfied customers, especially when an entire population has been alienated. by Perky on 2007-01-07 17:38:07 Perky, I understood your point, but the question is how much expense the Creators are willing to take on to support your community, especially since meeps and firsts, while Im sure entertaining in some bizzare way, do nothing to help out their bottom line. Obviously, they seem to be taking a consumer friendly approach. Again, whyat I find amusing is that some viewers could somehow feel alienated and dissatisfied, when the Creators have exhibited far more patience and willingness to bankrupt themselves than I ever would have. by dogger on 2007-01-07 17:47:21 samara.. calling people 'spoiled brats' is not such a good way to make friends, now is it, dearie? tsk tsk. i have read comment 289 several times, and it doesnt say that we all have to only-post-comments-about-the-video-or-else-we-will-be-condemned-for-all-eternity. lighten up sweet pea. by Grace on 2007-01-07 17:49:31 time for a new video! by beccaroni on 2007-01-07 17:51:14 I will be here with you cloud 767. I have not said a WORD on this subject, but felt this needed to be said. I love you guys. Lyndsay by purplepassion on 2007-01-07 17:55:04 It would be rather boring and lame if all we could do is comment about the video. It would mainly consist of "Nice video and music", or "Hey I hope Bree convinces Danile to join her and Jonas"...yeah rather lame to just comment so we make it interesting by making it something of a chat room to figure the vids out and have FUN discussing it. Plus when the topic of the video is burned out you don't expect us to sit back and twiddle our thumbs for the next vid do ya,didn't think so. by MagicianX on 2007-01-07 18:12:21 Ugh. I hoped this comments page nonsense had blown over. The truth of it is, I don't believe these very vocal forum people coming out of the woodwork believe half of what they say when arguing for the cease and desist of our way of interacting. Underneath it all is: this is how I want it to be and if you don't like it, I don't give a crap. I'm sure they see it the same way, but the difference is, if they get what they want, they lose nothing. We lose the entire way we socialize on the board and most of the joy we take from being here. I'm done responding to people who don't care about what I think and neither understand nor care to understand my point-of-view. It's pointless. I'm going back to studying. This isn't much of a break anymore. It just feels like more work. by Lizard on 2007-01-07 18:15:14 dwljk -- the first page on the weffriddles page is actually a riddle...try highlighting the page. jennamarie xo -- oooh 14/15 are tricky. I actually think they're even worse than lonelycrack because you could keep playing forever, it's all in your hands. egad, there goes any studying for finals I was going to do... by shleeee on 2007-01-07 18:23:18 I vote that in protest of wanting a new video, we stop posting comments until we get a new video anybody with me? by dwljk on 2007-01-07 18:24:00 Notice how Gemma is not submitting anymore videos since Jonas told Daniel about Gemma? But yeah I hope Bree will find her real father...hell he better not be a watcher. by SolidSnake on 2007-01-07 18:26:55 I'm sorry if this has already been mentioned, but what if "Cassie" was the name given to Bree by her real parents and then she developed an alternate personality where she was Cassie whenever she felt she didn't belong. by gnome on 2007-01-07 18:30:09 dogger - the alienation and dissatisfaction is not by any means the result of action by the Creators! The alienation and dissatisfaction is caused by disagreements and insulting behavior - even if the insults are perceived and not in fact! - by other members of the LG15 community. We come here for light entertainment regardless of a topic's direction, even if it is just Lonelycrack nonsense to people who choose not to participate here. Still, I thank you for your generally civil and non-offensive comments. If you keep this up, you'll be *meeping* before you know it! ;-) And like Lizard, I believe I will wait for some Creators input before taking part in any more divisive conversations. Ultimately, it is up to the Creators to decide the who, how, and where of fan participation. G'night all. by Perky on 2007-01-07 18:32:09 Comment Borad lover, please gp to the Chat *LG15 Defence Force* We just got a comment hater to back out *meep* by rosieiswatching on 2007-01-07 18:36:17 gnome that is a great idea - love it! by dwljk on 2007-01-07 18:48:47 shleeee - thanks I had highlighted it but I couldn't figure it out about putting it in the address bar....duh! maybe I shouldn't play it by dwljk on 2007-01-07 18:54:40 The strange tags are back. "Hamster" is one of the tags on this video in You Tube. by gnome on 2007-01-07 18:55:22 gjk by gracie on 2007-01-07 19:01:08 way to go gnome - I didn't notice that. Also watchingopahip has posted a video by dwljk on 2007-01-07 19:07:52 hamster is a link on all the old lonelygirl videos....mmmmm...anybody have any idea? by dwljk on 2007-01-07 19:10:44 I looked up the videos hamster was tagged to. "My Dad said..." "Proving Longitude Wrong" "My Lazy Eye" "He Said, She Said" "Daniel Returns and other Interesting Factoids" "Grillz" "First Blog/Dorkiness Prevails" I have no idea what could be the connection between these videos, but 'hamster' is all in the tags. The only other strange tag that seemed to repeat itself was 'aphid' and this was way before 'OpAphid' started making videos. Maybe hamster was some other code word in her community? by gnome on 2007-01-07 19:27:15 the only stupid thing I keep seeing in them is a brown bear in the background.... my that's just a stupid observation by dwljk on 2007-01-07 19:38:40 846 - gnome, i like that idea very much! by sarahboo on 2007-01-07 19:40:23 ok new video geesh there waiting like a week in between each vid..and they shoot what two times a week for a minute long video cmon lets get this story on the road here..chop chop people by blondeambition on 2007-01-07 19:42:38 ahhhhh but who's to say they are only taping these? mmmmm now about that damn hamster.... by dwljk on 2007-01-07 19:47:28 Yes, i did notice that before and I think i meade a post about it by rosieiswatching on 2007-01-07 19:48:38 Hey guys ! Just enough time for a comment or two. Dream (#744): "community". Dead on. The LG15 community, ALL of the elements working together-the forums AND the commenters. I'm just wishing for the fighting to stop. Forums- we like this way, and you guys like your way. Can't we just co-exist? Please don't keep complaining about us and asking to police or remove this board. Anyways, to all of the friends I've made here so far and to all of the others that love LG15- Goodnight and have a happy *meep*!!! by WatchingOne on 2007-01-07 19:53:59 theres a new video loading.. by xDangerDoomx on 2007-01-07 20:09:56 I was thinking the same thing....:) by dwljk on 2007-01-07 20:15:37 How do you know? by Rebecca on 2007-01-07 20:33:42 Rebecca - xDangerDoomx always posts that a new video is loading when in truth a new video is never loading when he posts that... by Jess on 2007-01-07 20:39:35 yes, but the web site was acting funny for a moment there..... by dwljk on 2007-01-07 20:40:59 ahhhh, thanks, jess. by Rebecca on 2007-01-07 20:41:48 Noo!! I'm not sure it'll ever be the same! What'll happen to the Firstsayers? (Some people really complain about them but they make me happy! I'd miss them..) And the Orange Slurpies.. ..*tear* *gasp* *...meep* One reason I like the Video Comments is because it's easier and I like the unorganization. (Needless to say, I do agree with the forumers that it takes for ever to load. But on the other hand, it only takes forever to load the comments, not the video.. well at least for me... So..) We're all one big community, mainly made up of The Lurkers, The Comenters and The Forum, (The ARGS? That's kinda forum, but they have the opites..) Anyway, I agree with WatchingOne, "Can't we just co-exist..?" by ana on 2007-01-07 20:42:21 Someone said that this board only takes them 20 seconds to upload, and any longer length of upload time is a problem on the receiver's end. This could be true. Just now, it only took me about 10 seconds to load. However, when a new video is posted, I can't get on. I know a new video is posted by how long it takes the page to show. Is this caused by all the comments and the Fiiiiiiiirrrssstt!!1!!!! s going on? Or is it because everyone is trying to get on at the same time? Or, more than likely, a combination of both..... So, maybe, for the first say....2 hours or so a new video is up, to disable the video comments? Most of the top 10-20 comments are usually the Fiirrst shouts and "Yay, new video!" comments. This will give people time to view, and then contiplate and analyze what the just saw, THEN post thier video (and other) comments. After the "rush hour" (or two) settles down, open up the comment floodgates! Ok....ducking down now to try and avoid getting burned from the flames......... by rebecky27 on 2007-01-07 20:42:49 wishful thinking, I suppose. by Rebecca on 2007-01-07 20:42:58 #781~Cloud_Ax~ We LOVE you. I even made a video in honor of you today. How can you leave us? I just stopped reading the forum posts because they were upsetting me too much. I just know what I need to avoid to keep equilibrium in my mental health. Maybe you should just do the same thing! #846~Gnome~Brilliant!! Bree may need to cope with the level of mental illness created via the adoption into the cult. Her prior name MAY have been Cassie. #796--xDangerDoomX--If you keep that up, we WILL end up with a moderated board. If you care about this board, please quit posting profanity or GO SOMEPLACE ELSE! Are you a Forum person who just came here to ruin us or something? by Marbella on 2007-01-07 21:01:46 Gypsy and Jess, I appreciate your trust and faith in me to be moderator. You could definitely trust I would NOT move posts around. All I would do is remove the vulgarity and the people who post the same word 10-50x, etc. That's it. Or else, you could fire me! I'd be willing.. OR Gypsy (who is a role model for me with her diplomacy skills) is a great candidate. Lizard or Dream are also excellent candidates. I trust any of the above totally. My last *spark* of anger against the last xDangerDoomX comment should possibly disqualify me. Of course, I wasn't acting in a moderator role. I just really care about and value this experience of the comment board. It means a lot to me to connect with friends whose creativeness I've come to love and respect. This is my playground. Bullies, get off of it! Miles made some EXCELLENT suggestions in Comment #189. I believe we ALL should work to follow those guidelines. Samara, I never said that our "free flowing experience" should ruin things for everyone. I've been supporting many of the things miles mentioned, such as collapsing the board, extending kind words and generosity to people on the forum, despite their reactions at times, refraining from fighting. People HAVE been taking matters up in the chat more, rather than posting here. Thank you, Marbella by Marbella on 2007-01-07 21:16:54 This argument is really none of my business, and I really don't care -- it sounds like "The Creators" have a plan and it will hopefully be a moot point soon. But just making this observation -- even though I normally don't comment myself, I do enjoy reading the comments. And this bickering on both sides is making this whole thing much less enjoyable all around. I'm not going to take sides. I just wish everything could go back to the way it was a week ago... but better. That's all. Thanks. by AestheticOfDecay on 2007-01-07 21:18:30 there's a new video loading? is it true!? by lets_steal_everythin on 2007-01-07 21:45:34 why do you say that? by Scooter on 2007-01-07 21:49:47 #862 said so. thats why i figured i'd ask. by lets_steal_everythin on 2007-01-07 21:52:05 there is NOT a new video loading. by Perky on 2007-01-07 21:52:41 ok thank you. by lets_steal_everythin on 2007-01-07 21:54:02 yeah, I don't think there is one loading. I was hoping maybe there would be one before I had go to bed, but alas... by Scooter on 2007-01-07 21:55:07 Good Night All.. I hope we all have sweet dreams!! I'd like to give the world grape nehi.. to keep them company.. I'd like to sing the Breeniverse a song, with perfect harmony.. (and that's the song I sing..) Nite.. Marblella (Thanks to the donation of yet another anonymous donor, I am now at 195% marblage!! Whoo-HOO!!) by Marbella on 2007-01-07 22:04:26 crap not even to a 1000 comments yet!!! What's happening people... shake yourself up!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-07 22:43:19 #683 DelacroixDraven: You're quite welcome, and thankyou too. A little netiquette goes a long way. That being said, I can't wait for the next video to be posted. I really love this series. by taisetsuna on 2007-01-07 22:49:21 this is ridiculous.. there better be a video by the afternoon by analin on 2007-01-08 00:21:58 wooowww... it's been about three days and there are very few comments. so i have a vague idea of what's going on in The Great Comment-Forum Board Wars and i'm on the "comments should be totally unlimited and unmoderated" side!!!! FFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!111111111!111111!!! *meep* *drinks grape Nehi* by drbrenda on 2007-01-08 00:28:45 no new video? damn... Q: What is more curvy than Brees, lucys, and Gemmas humps? A: Daniel's nose Q: what is bigger than Bree's, lucy's, and Gemmas humps? A: The gap between Daniel's teeth by 707clique on 2007-01-08 00:30:09 #873... Amen to that *wishing right along with ya* by heather on 2007-01-08 00:41:59 Q: What is smaller than P. Monkey's eyes, P. Monkeys hands, or P. Monkey's ears? A: Daniel's balls by 707clique on 2007-01-08 00:45:23 Q: What did the Deacon's say after a long night of drinking? A: We chose WHO for the ceremony???!!! by 707clique on 2007-01-08 00:50:09 Q: What is a watcher's favorite musical group? A: Third Eye Blind. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-08 00:55:39 New Frankiswaking profile: "Choose your side now There is a deadline" With a morse code message that translates "SATIRICALLY SEES THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE. THOSE WHO DO NOT CHOOSE. THOSE WHO DO NOT TRUST. THOSE WHO DO NOT ASK. WE WILL FIND YOU. IT'S TOO LATE." by ti_esrever on 2007-01-08 00:56:20 umm...was at youtube and noticed that a new vid was posted JUST a minute ago by gemmers19....it was kinda weird though..sorta like a commercial...but at the end it did say "investigate the order. fight opaphid." by tigxpup on 2007-01-08 01:29:43 Gemma's or Tachyon's video?? http://youtube.com/watch?v=sAG6bkkChQU by robtomorrow on 2007-01-08 01:54:16 Good Morning, Good Morning! Who's about? by dumbhippo on 2007-01-08 02:05:10 well....it was under gemma's account....all a bit odd...i dunno by tigxpup on 2007-01-08 02:09:48 It's in gemmers19's account, but if you go to her YouTube Page, you'll notice that her avatar has a little change that might creep you out. by ApotheosisAZ on 2007-01-08 02:13:36 this is my one post for the day (not about the videos): *remembering a time when i used to love this board...oh wait, that was before last week* why oh why did there have to be more than 2000 posts? i miss all my fellow lonelycrackers (especially Jack)! *tear* still haven't used the chat feature yet..except for the bree conference (on Nov.28th?) nor the forum (use it if YOU want..it's there) hoping everything is resolved soon..... by StarrySkyPixy on 2007-01-08 02:23:54 896... I've been away all weeked... what's going on? by dumbhippo on 2007-01-08 02:25:53 Tachyon has taken over Gemmas youtube account! eeek! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-08 02:27:27 Gemma! *cries* So I guess that means she ran into an X for real. Any chance they keep her captive so she can't fight to get back control of her account? 889 Apo, loved that joke 776 iamcool, you are cool! Made me laugh and forget my grumbling. :) by Dream on 2007-01-08 02:29:06 DUUDE!! Tachyon and Brother hacked Gemma's account by 707clique on 2007-01-08 02:29:37 dumbhippo, read posts #287 and 289 from the creators by StarrySkyPixy on 2007-01-08 02:30:13 Wait a minute. The English bitch is dead. Of course they'll take control of that account! by 707clique on 2007-01-08 02:31:05 o yea, is it just me, or does Gemma have freckles? by 707clique on 2007-01-08 02:33:16 thanks 901. hey Dream, 707 ang gf! by dumbhippo on 2007-01-08 02:36:57 ey. I checked out some of the comments on myspace between the actors and "their personal lives" so to speak. Actually, I looked at Gemma's. Someone was like "whats this whole thing about Youtube u and ur friend keep talking about?" and she was like "just something stupid on Youtube" I get the feeling the actors don't like their jobs...lolol by 707clique on 2007-01-08 02:55:31 707...or maybe she's just bitter because her character turned out to be eeeevvviiiilll by StarrySkyPixy on 2007-01-08 02:59:22 Just scrolled through all the comments... everyone is getting really angry about the comments page structure etc! Personally I dont think moderation would work because the comments page is free flowing and does not follow seperate subject headings, its almost like we are all in one big pub and the conversations can go wherever the mood takes us..one minute we're discussing the video..the next its mackrel! (ace youtube vid by the way Marbella!) I suggested that the front page have just the video - and maybe the last 10 comments (like youtube) and there be a link to this comments page, so there is no need need for moderators or a new forum ...and everyone is happy (we keep the comments page as it is complete with fiiirrst and meep!- the forumers dont have to wait for the front page to load) The creators sent me a note thanking me for the idea and to let me know they are working on something along the same lines. So hopefully its all going to work out guys! I have faith in LG15!I have faith in the creators! I am...loosing faith in Gemma...eeek! I think an x got her! by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-08 03:01:09 the sleep beccons...must go now.... by StarrySkyPixy on 2007-01-08 03:03:03 GEMMA JUST POSTED A NEW VIDEO ON YOUTUBE...ITS GAY BUT NEW VIDEO! by Deanna on 2007-01-08 03:30:00 Its not a new video it s an old video that was made by Opaphid by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 04:27:46 It's a new video on the Gemma account, but check her YouTube profile. The account has been taken over by Brother and Tachyon. by aplague on 2007-01-08 04:29:44 we will see what happen later i guess by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 04:55:36 wow this is so quiet... I'm not used to that! Usually there is a big fight for the 1000th comments by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 05:00:04 Like right now having three comments in a row... that's definitely not normal!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 05:04:04 Sim7lizard - I think the comment posters are a bit disheartened at the moment... by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-08 06:14:05 why? we have to reach at least a thousand for a new video by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 06:26:14 Hey all. I've just been catching up on the forums/comments debate, and watching this very frustrating new video. A few comments: The idea that we're wrecking the server by hitting refresh is ridiculous. The whole reason the creators have these comments on the front page is so that your refreshes count as page views. Page views = dollars. I know that, because I happen to run several websites, and page views mean eyeballs to advertisers. The forums are fine. And we're fine here, too. There was some frustration about the server moving slow, but that probably had more to do with the Creators' own technical problems than with anything we're doing. This is a pretty simple page to load. It's not ruining anything to keep on as we have been. The argument really should go away. What the creators will find if they move comments to another page is that the pageviews they're looking at now will drop dramatically, and, as such, so will their advertising rates. Forum people: Let us alone. We're just having fun. Nobody's getting hurt. If you need to watch the video several times, you can download it to your computer and save bandwidth. As for the video, it seems like Bree's silence is always a mechanism of the Creators to keep us in suspense. Bree owes explanations, whether she wants to talk or not. The fact is these folks she's dealing with are dangerous. She dragged Daniel back in to this mess; she at least owes him her complete knowledge of what's going on -- just to ensure his safety. That's what I've got this morning. Meeps to my peeps. Sing on, Guild. by Maddingo on 2007-01-08 06:37:57 Hey Maddingo - good comment! I'm afraid I missed all of this over the weekend - but it feels a bit odd not having anyone chatting in here like normal. :( by dumbhippo on 2007-01-08 06:42:22 Hippo: I was reading over the weekend, but refrained from speaking until I'd thought it out. GF: It's cool of you to take that initiative and contact the creators, but I would say making that change would be disastrous for them. The creators desperately need to monetize this site. I'd be happy to help them figure that out. But cutting your page views will really hurt that. And as I've said before, I'm here more to read what y'all are saying than I am for the videos. by Maddingo on 2007-01-08 06:47:42 Hmmmm.... Speaking of Bree's mom. Might want to check out this Gemma vid again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQ0bkRAlTU by Maddingo on 2007-01-08 06:50:21 All that is enveloped in darkness is seen through my eyes, Living death after death, My sole enterprise. I gaze into the Abyss, and suffer the cost The lone shining light, in the world of the lost. IV.A. by youcantrustmebree on 2007-01-08 06:56:19 #907-Gemma's Flatmate--Hey! Thanks for your "aces" on my video! :) I think the "one big pub" concept is accurate. To me, it's also a lot like kids on a playground. We just spontaneously make up games. I'm proud of you for your idea, and you really deserved that thanks from the Creators. You've got my thanks, as well!! Marbella by Marbella on 2007-01-08 07:06:50 Does anyone know why Gemma Part 1 posted again on youtube?? by Jess on 2007-01-08 07:10:29 Well this is gonna be my opinion on this whole forum vs comments thing! If you wanna go and chat in the chatroom go ahead, if you wanna start forum and write in it go ahead, and if you wanna write in the comments page gp ahead! Why would anyone have to decide what I say where... this is not freaking governement stuff... nobody would die because I wrote a comment in the chatroom or talk to other fellow lonelygirl-aholic (by the way we have a support group)!!! So basically what I say is live and let live! MEEP!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 07:13:23 Jess yes if you read the profile you ll see that Tachyon has taken over (hacked) the account by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 07:14:14 #881-SimLizard-- I think some people are posting LESS and certain people have LEFT, unfortunately. At least we're not overloading the board, though! That IS important! #885, 887-- HEY!! I LOVE Daniel!! He's my favorite character so STOP IT with the Daniel jokes, OK? :S #889-Apotheosis--Hey! That was GREAT!! Oh and by the way, what "secret agent" has a big symbol tatooed on the back of their wrist? Yeah, right Gemma!! Thanks for the blurry video coverage you had to prove it, too, Gemma-Phlema!! I'm still laughing over your "Watcher" job recruiting vid.. SO FUNNY!!! by Marbella on 2007-01-08 07:17:20 #891--TigXPup--Hmm.. Will the Creators post it here? Is it really BY Gemma or a fan vid about Gemma? I'll check it out, but my feeling is it might be a CYA by Gemma. by Marbella on 2007-01-08 07:19:27 Sorry.. I just read it.. Tachyon has taken over Gemma's YouTube account.. OK.. so is THAT supposed to lend credibility to Gemma? To me, it lends LESS credibility to Tachyon. by Marbella on 2007-01-08 07:21:00 #905--707Clique.. It MAY be that just Gemma doesn't like her job. I wouldn't either, if I were Gemma. If SO many people disliked my role, acting, etc.. and the only comments I got were from young guys saying, "You're hot," and "Whoa..sexy lips," I'd be disgruntled, too!! by Marbella on 2007-01-08 07:23:18 OK.. I feel caught up.. OCD is alright now :) but I'm sorry for so many comments in a row!!! Off to get some work done.. Hi-Ho!! by Marbella on 2007-01-08 07:25:04 Well MArbella you do have sexy lips... it's not my fault!!! You can't blame me for your lips!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 07:26:46 Sim7Lizard.. NO!!! That's what people say about Gemma! Not ME, too?!! Thanks, though :) I actually LIKED that! I actually watched the Tachyon/Gemma vid, and I now feel I understand--scratch some of the earlier comments, 'cause I was basing them off other people's impressions, w/o watching myself. Clearly, this video shows to me that Gemma IS part of the Order. Also, Maddingo--brilliant link--In that video, Gemma states that Bree's mother is a "pillar in the community," (of the Order,)and that her "brazenness," was well admired. I DOUBT her mother would go along with what her dad did. Hmm. Now, I'm REALLY going.. REALLY.. but I will be back by Marbella on 2007-01-08 07:33:41 Marbella...OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH ok I totally missed that lol oops ;) by Jess on 2007-01-08 07:39:14 I want to smack Bree. What an ungratful little "meep". The guys are concerned for her. Her response to them is that of a little brat. Hello if it wasn't for them then she could've been killed too. But then again this all fake. Okay that's it I'm done with this crap. by seeit on 2007-01-08 07:45:34 Maddingo - Please contact the creators with any ideas! You seem much more knowledgeable than me about website formats (for example I didnt realise the more refreshes there are the more money they make!) us commentors need all the help we can get! Lots of thanks xx by gemmas flatmate on 2007-01-08 07:53:36 Jess??? did I really saw your name? Or is it a mirage? Am I in heaven? Am I dreaming? Ô Créature exquise!!!! Meep!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 07:59:07 lol yes Sim7Lizard I'm here :-D But i'm trying to limit my comments so as not to get yelled at by the forum people...some of them are great, but some are mean :-P by Jess on 2007-01-08 08:10:06 Morning all! Things are looking up in lonelycrack land! hehe.... rosie, model, krig, cloud, voy, sarah, LordGreystoke, everyone - thanks for the chat last night!! Morning Jess and GF and Sim and Maddingo and Marbella and everyone!! Lizard also contacted Miles and it looks like we'll have our own basically unmoderated place while changes are made to this page... and yes, the Creators are working on making the changes here as well. So... have to work now but will be back laters! and cloud - I'm very very VERY proud of you!!! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-08 08:16:04 Jess don't worry about them... what cab they do to you anyway... it's just words! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 08:26:30 This is true, and the website seems to be running much faster now :-D by Jess on 2007-01-08 08:34:04 there you go! Men we really need a new video!!!! NOW!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 08:41:03 Morning all! *opens Grape Nehi* *Chugs* *meep*! (hey, it's better than belching!) :) #720 Maddingo. The link is absolutely brilliant! The phrase that sent chills up my spine was Gemma saying that Bree's Mom had told David Hume that any individual that attempts to thwart another persons rights should be put down like a dog. *shivers* Could that have been foreshadowing about Bree's dad? by WatchingOne on 2007-01-08 09:02:19 Sorry #920, not #720 by WatchingOne on 2007-01-08 09:04:09 MORNING EVERYONE!!!! I'm still pretty bored areound here, so I've begun a new ATTACK OF THE ATTACK comic!!! Ok... maybe not that exciting, but HEY! It helps me get through the day :) If you want to see #1 and 2, go here: http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/mysilvertrumpet/Cartoon1.jpg http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/mysilvertrumpet/Cartoon2.gif HEY! if you have any requests or ideas, just send me a note!! Also, I've been trying to figure out what a meep looks like-literally speaking... does it look like a mouse, an "m" with big shiny eyes?? Does anyone have any idea what a meep looks like? :) Sigh... off to watch the Gemmers/Tachyon vids... and get some grits and eggs for breakfast :) yummmmmm! by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-08 09:16:05 Did I miss where it is explained How the dad got away from them? Or is it still yet to be told by EveOfEden on 2007-01-08 09:26:46 Morning everyone! The internet ate my posts- two times so far- and I don't feel like typing them over again :( So I'll leave it with- in my posts 711 and 773, I put up links to a comic I made with MSpaint (attack of the attack) featuring Attack the orange and the evil mackerel. I'm starting a new one, but I'm not sure what the "meep" should look like. If anyone has any ideas about that, any suggestions in general or comments, let me know! :) by mysilvertrumpet on 2007-01-08 09:34:02 mysilvertrumpet _ A Kitten rubbing against granny's leg should do fine! *meep* by WatchingOne on 2007-01-08 09:42:11 morning to you guys, afternoon to the rest! yea chat was good last night :) by sarahboo on 2007-01-08 09:48:55 Gypsy..Thanks for the good news!! Thanks for everyone who emailed Miles. I had considered it, but sometimes I get overloaded with emotions about things and I don't take ANY action during that time. I've even totally avoided the forum boards, except for to look at my polls and laugh. Also, Watching One, #942, thanks for the quote you pointed out that I missed. THAT says a lot. Perhaps as the "pillar of the community" that her mother was, SHE decided to put religion above family.. in an EXTREME way!! #933-Jess--You see, all of us pick up on different things. That's why it is SO COOL to use this "team approach" that we use here!! by Marbella on 2007-01-08 09:57:09 945 mysilvertrumpet, A meep looks like a smiley face with pointy ears. When I get some time I will finish my meeping flash animation (No it is not a flashing meep with a trench coat. That would be disturbing). I dropped the ball a bit this weekend. I have been dealing with a dieing relative and did not have a chance to answer questions about the Caching software until early this morning. I think they are also getting good advice from many other sources. by ralfthedog on 2007-01-08 09:58:52 ralfthedog, I think I speak for a majority of us when I say there is no "not enough" when it comes to your help... what you have started is appreciated, even if you aren't able to add to it! Sorry to hear about your real-life sadness, and I hope you can still find some lightheartedness here. :-) by Perky on 2007-01-08 10:03:22 What is going on with the two Gemma vids? Anyone know? by tshindon on 2007-01-08 10:05:45 HELP!! Everytime I tried to log onto the chat I kept getting "Error: Chat is for members only" even though I was logged in. Any solutions? So I missed the whole thing. Can anyone send a transcript in a note or something? by WatchingOne on 2007-01-08 10:07:03 WatchingOne....That's what I was talking about. Seems her mother's got quite a personality, and is well respected by the Order. So why won't Bree talk to her? Cuz she's probably dangerous. Morning gypsy and perky and WatchingOne and Marbella and all I've forgotten! Good to see you! by Maddingo on 2007-01-08 10:11:22 in for a sec.. Synopsis of last night's chat.. Basically deciding that, until the Comment Board was adjusted to show limited posts then redirecting, the option of having a Comment Board chat thread that would be immune from having the threads moved elsewhere was/is acceptable for the good of LG15. Lonelycrackers have united!! The Creators are working on everything for us. .. back to work, laters all!! and heya hippo, I missed you earlier, sorry! by jc_gypsy7 on 2007-01-08 10:18:32 #938 gypsy, thanks for the update! Thank you to everyone who emailed the Creators, and a special thank you to ralfthedog for all you have done to help us maintain our community. My thoughts are with you in this tough time. Take care of yourself! by krig on 2007-01-08 10:23:26 Maddingo, yeah, it seems that was one HELL of a "macguffin" they dropped there with that statement. I'm still confused about Daniel's role in this, though. The conversations he used to have with Bree's Dad were kept a mystery for some reason. And as I've questioned earier, could his statement in the "Swimming" video about not knowing about Cassie imply that he is part of an Order cover-up and working in collusion with them? Was Bree's Mom actually trying to rescue her from her father's intentions? Remember, the statement was: people that DON'T allow others to have rights should be put down like dogs. by WatchingOne on 2007-01-08 10:25:42 Morning Maddingo (actually, Good Afternoon here)! by Perky on 2007-01-08 10:25:49 Any new developments of any kind. by MagicianX on 2007-01-08 10:28:11 Jo, offended by my language in my video? Would you have rather that I have said.... "no, he's pretty *meeping* dead?" Well, too fucking bad I guess. lol by jayusmc1986 on 2007-01-08 10:32:21 Thanks again Gypsy...and all of us who worked hard on this, including Lizard.. I'll be back online after a while. I'm happy to know that peace and harmony have prevailed as a result of the LG-15 Defense Force!!! by Marbella on 2007-01-08 10:34:42 i need a new video or i shall go mad :[ by saffystar on 2007-01-08 10:34:48 So yesterday I made a comment board for everyone on my site so that we won’t cause the site to slow down… :) I did it because I was bored... and sad. and this can be our temporary solution until everything gets sorted out. http://www.freewebs.com/lonelybeasttko19/ Cloud_Ax: Come back! Please. We're nothing without you. I cried when I read that you were leaving... I almost drank orange juice... Please! Come back to us. by deathstarpsycho on 2007-01-08 10:35:22 Oh and if Bree was Cassie then I guess her real fathers last name could be Iswatching. by deathstarpsycho on 2007-01-08 10:36:44 Lol@963 well lets hope she don't get to marry Daniel coz then she'll be Mrs Beast-Iswatching!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 10:51:09 nobody answering in 30 minutes no run for the 1000th comments what s the point of coming then... come on!!! People usually we have the 1000 in 36 hours!!! by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 11:22:34 Maybe folks are getting used to the videos not showing up but once every couple of days and aren't checking as often. That would be the slow down in the amount of messages. by haze_9 on 2007-01-08 11:39:08 Oh yeah and the fact that nothing is going on in the videos... no info... Not much to discuss or figure out. by haze_9 on 2007-01-08 11:40:07 Yeah Haze... I know they also has been some complaint by forum's people saying that the comments should be reserved for comments.... like it matters... by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 11:42:31 Well we're about due for a new video now, arent we? It seems something is going on with Gemma...maybe a new brother or Tachyon video. Somebody mentioned that the next Gemma vid might be Brother interrogating Gemma. ...possibility? by juliacat on 2007-01-08 12:00:35 Hey--did everyone go somewhere else to chat? OR are we just being quiet until we get our own thread in the forum? by juliacat on 2007-01-08 12:32:32 Actually Sim, I think morale is pretty much shot right now as a result of the weekend garbage. Give folks a couple of days to get their *meep*iness back... by Perky on 2007-01-08 12:32:51 There is a new video... that is where they all went. by haze_9 on 2007-01-08 12:54:47 What's next? Is Bree going to all of a sudden find out that Jonas is her long lost brother? I'm disappointed. This story used to be entertaining. I'm just about done with this whole LG thing. by thealphacrow on 2007-01-08 13:12:38 there is no new video... if you re talking about Gemma's it's an old one by Sim7lizard on 2007-01-08 14:22:51 No I am talking about the one called 45 seconds that Jonas just put up. by haze_9 on 2007-01-08 15:15:44 This reminds me of the early days. Gold and engaging. Straight to camera. Straight across the world. I just got back from a long time away. Can anyone direct me to similar vlogs? There must be potential for cross-programming too, huh? Ciao Joey by JoeSpaceTime on 2007-01-08 20:00:13 for her "dad" just dying, she didnt seem that sad or depressed by lovelygirl90 on 2007-01-08 20:32:50 FIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!! Just Kidding by MadHadderall on 2007-01-09 20:17:51 I guess the Police overlooked this case. Even tho it WAS caught on tape. ummm, sure yea, right. C'mon producers. try harder. u can do it. i know u don't claim to be professionals, so HIRE SOME!!! by MadHadderall on 2007-01-09 20:27:53 Last!!!!! by modelmotion on 2007-01-11 19:21:01 To lonelygirl90: Bree could be in shock after seeing something that traumatic. I sure as hell was, especially after having both of my dearest, oldest, most loving family members depart this world within the span of three months. by Crystal_Chord on 2007-01-21 02:45:07 Sorry about that last post...It's 5AM EST, so I can't see my keyboard well in low light, and I didn't have my glasses on. Sorry lovelygirl90...That last post was for you! by Crystal_Chord on 2007-01-21 03:02:26 Omgeee. Whoa. Never saw that coming. geeze. its 7:20. ive been watching these ever since 3 in the morning. by ehhitsgee on 2007-08-06 04:21:17 I would be going crazy if my parents told me that. How could they keep something like that from you? The "order" probably placed you with them. by meantlychalengd on 2007-08-07 13:39:50 "wasnt" her real mum? is her mum dead then? by serafina on 2007-09-02 04:26:55 holy woah that was a turn of events by xxheartbreakerxx on 2007-09-06 17:15:23 aww poor bree. but she is being a bitch both those guys were totally there for her. dude they proally would ahve shot you too if beast didnt drag you away. you would be dead or dissapered to if it wasnt for daniel and you would eb on the street if it werent for jonas, quit being a bitch and tlak to them they want to help. by willsbaby on 2008-03-29 16:03:35 WTF! I thought this character was a cute, great character, but this video made her sound such a BITCH. =] im addidcted to lg15! :( by trainor13 on 2008-06-06 11:45:53 Where the fuck are her parents then, just having a care free life well she has a SHIT one, tbf (to be fair) she has a lot of caring people around her, and this makes her see life more clearly i reckon the last commented was posted before i watched the full 3mins and then like i just interpertted other people's comments :( thats not good is it :) please dont be so shady with the comments about the vblog i think its smart it was made a while back, they was probs doing it for a course then took it further, theres so many 'addicts' that love watching the vblogs (like me) its something that keeps you uptodate, and has some nice plot lines, too keep the audience hooked, im 14, i like watching these i watch up to here since really early after school, im not a nerd either :P by trainor13 on 2008-06-06 11:51:16 |