| meep! by krig on 2006-12-21 20:32:01 first by tshindon on 2006-12-21 20:32:13 Woo! by Jackie on 2006-12-21 20:32:19 Or second!!! by tshindon on 2006-12-21 20:32:36 FFFFFFIIIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!! *salutes* *meep* by Perky on 2006-12-21 20:32:41 Wooo hooo :-D top peeps! by theangelgaveup on 2006-12-21 20:32:47 hey, wow, i've never caught a video this early before! by jOsh on 2006-12-21 20:32:52 meep! way to procrastinate writing my thesis! by kathryn on 2006-12-21 20:32:58 8 by losted4evr on 2006-12-21 20:33:10 top 10 by lets_steal_everythin on 2006-12-21 20:33:10 lawl...damn by derfikle on 2006-12-21 20:33:35 third woo by belligerent_jim on 2006-12-21 20:33:51 NEARLY FIRST by Caleb on 2006-12-21 20:34:01 mang by derfikle on 2006-12-21 20:34:04 Your ugly by JessMcBess on 2006-12-21 20:34:17 fiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrsttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!11!!1 by heather on 2006-12-21 20:34:22 Nearly 1st...freaking log in time by jenni_loca on 2006-12-21 20:34:27 TOP 10 by Garfwog on 2006-12-21 20:34:37 Ok, so not third, but still early! by belligerent_jim on 2006-12-21 20:34:39 FIIRRRRRRRRRRST!!! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:35:31 wow good i guess? by yoshi8710 on 2006-12-21 20:35:42 Oh man, chat with the creators while this was loading was sweet. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:35:53 http://www.epogen.com/ Anemia? Iron pills. by Jackie on 2006-12-21 20:36:13 Krig, for the record: itcassie was crap by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:36:23 Holy Crapballs! What an intense video! by -trollbaby- on 2006-12-21 20:36:38 She was totally a boring lay. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:36:41 Daniel! Way to get it done! And so creepy! Someone should try calling that sequence of numbers he showed!! I think it was too many though. Here are the 2 important things I got from the ODZAMRAN chat, for those who weren't there: 1. The Creators were there and acknowledged that although they think itscassie is very cool, she is NOT canon. 2. I asked ODZAMRAN if she was the one sending the REBEL messages and she said she doesn't send messages. by krig on 2006-12-21 20:36:59 so what it is? by supasamurai on 2006-12-21 20:37:05 PinkoLady - do tell! by -trollbaby- on 2006-12-21 20:37:09 k...hello blair witch...so what is that medicine for? by jenni_loca on 2006-12-21 20:37:47 thanks krig! by -trollbaby- on 2006-12-21 20:38:05 "EPOGEN® is contraindicated in patients with uncontrolled hypertension." by lets_steal_everythin on 2006-12-21 20:38:05 WOAHOOOOO.. Great vid. by Stink on 2006-12-21 20:38:50 So I wonder if they were trying to calm her down for some weird reason...Bree can be kind of a spaz. Ha ha. Kidding. by -trollbaby- on 2006-12-21 20:39:00 #24 PinkoLady Yeah, I know, I was there, but for some reason my screen name here doesn't show up there. It was almost completely useless, except for the two things I noted above at #27, I think. by krig on 2006-12-21 20:39:08 OMG. I thought its cassie said late on the 21st. It's only 7:30 in cali. I haven't even started making dinner yet. by jenni_loca on 2006-12-21 20:39:35 EXCITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by thenamesmeghan on 2006-12-21 20:39:59 now that throws me totally off....why on earth would they have her on a drug for anemia..unless they planned on bleeding her and needed to make sure she had more than enough blood for the ritual.....not to kill her... interesting....very interesting by queentina on 2006-12-21 20:40:53 yay!! i love new videos! and i'm in the top 50! (maybe) yay! by crazylainey on 2006-12-21 20:41:25 FFIIRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!1!!11!!!!!!!!! *saluting* http://www.epogen.com/pdf/epogen_ppi.pdf hmm.. we need info on how this is administered.. cause Bree got it intramuscularly, not intravenously....... by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-21 20:41:26 220, 219, 195... significance...? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:41:26 ffiiirirsssttt!11 salute to you general! by becky on 2006-12-21 20:41:50 Researched Epogen. It's from a company called Amgen, a company that "Delivers important, cost effective therapeutics based on cellular and molecular biology". Researched that, this is what they had to say about Anemia: Anemia Anemia is a condition that occurs when the blood does not contain enough red blood cells. Red blood cells carry oxygen from the lungs to the body’s tissues. In a healthy person, the body sends signals to the bone marrow to create more red blood cells whenever the body needs more oxygen. A hormone called erythropoietin, produced in the kidney, is the signal that stimulates the bone marrow to produce red blood cells. When the body does not produce enough erythropoietin, fewer red blood cells are produced, and therefore less oxygen is delivered to the body. Certain diseases--such as cancer and chronic kidney disease--are related to anemia. Cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy often suffer from anemia because chemotherapy attacks not only cancerous cells, but other cells in the body as well, including red blood cells. In kidney disease patients, kidney function is reduced. Erythropoetin, the body’s signal that tells bone marrow to make more red blood cells, comes from the kidneys, so in these patients, fewer red blood cells are produced. Some common symptoms of anemia include: fatigue, weakness, rapid heart beat, shortness of breath, dizziness or fainting, feeling cold, sadness or depression, and shortness of breath. Anemia can strain the heart as it overworks to deliver oxygen throughout the body. It also can make certain cancer therapies less effective and can interrupt chemotherapy treatment. If left untreated, anemia can result in the need for red blood cell transfusions. --- Still looking by Jackie on 2006-12-21 20:41:56 DAMN GOOD VIDEO!! by voyboy on 2006-12-21 20:42:37 "What is the most important information I should know about Epogen? Before using Epogen, tell your doctor if you have epilepsy or a history of seizures. Epogen may cause seizures. Be careful if you drive or do anything that requires you to be awake and alert. Do not give yourself an injection if you do not understand how or where to inject this medication. Contact your doctor if you feel weak, lightheaded, or short of breath, or if your skin looks pale. These may be signs that your body has stopped responding to Epogen." by Perky on 2006-12-21 20:42:44 Krig: I wondered who asked that by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:42:49 Epogen... for anemics? Hmm. I wonder why they'd inject her with that. by Lauren on 2006-12-21 20:43:48 top 50??? woohoo....who cares! by *rozzy-poo* on 2006-12-21 20:44:30 One. big. pharmaceutical. commercial. Have we been had again? by -trollbaby- on 2006-12-21 20:44:44 Epogen is also used for blood doping, and Jehovah's Witnesses use it as an alternative to blood transfusions, says wikipedia. Hmm... I'm not quite sure what to think about this yet. by klingonpixie on 2006-12-21 20:44:44 Basically, she only responded every once in a while, and said nothing of value-- so in addition to not being canon, as Krig said, she's not a particularly interesting spin-off. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:44:46 top 50 by haze_9 on 2006-12-21 20:45:04 Hm, again, we're back to the seizure thing. by Jackie on 2006-12-21 20:45:16 epogen treats kidney failure? by becky on 2006-12-21 20:45:29 Also, the creators confirmed there would be more characters... but duh, of course there will be. They cited Grey's Anatomy and Lost as both having 12 significant characters. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:46:12 #46 PinkoLady I am so sneaky! Going to watch the video again to see if there is another digit to make a 10 digit phone number. by krig on 2006-12-21 20:46:16 lol okay guys, seriously, that one was totally lame. The music? Awful. Hokey. And like whoever was driving that car that was coming wouldn't have noticed a tall oafey kid running around with a camcorder. And really.. the SUPER CLOSEUP i-can-see-your-nasty-pores shots and the heavy breathing in the mic is really getting old. You can't back up off the kid's face A LITTLE? by pink_moon on 2006-12-21 20:46:35 #53 Jackie, that's what hit me right away, too... a medicine that causes seizures, combined with anti-seizure meds? What the hell kind of cocktail were they giving her? by Perky on 2006-12-21 20:47:00 daniel is so the man! he never tells us enough though! by mary on 2006-12-21 20:47:19 omg top 100? by AWll on 2006-12-21 20:48:25 #38 Queentina-- Bleeding her, or using her blood for something (thus, drawing a good deal) whether for religious or whack scientific purposes is definitely interesting. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:48:26 oh yeah great video!!! I need more. more more more... by *rozzy-poo* on 2006-12-21 20:49:37 trollbaby-nah.. this isn't cassie, you're not being sent into never-never land on a wild goose chase. ok.. Facts So Far - when Bree was receiving the shots, she was: Listless bags under her eyes hmm.. confused a bit afterwards.. no mention of blood, seizures or loss of conciousness. maybe the Deacons have a point.. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-21 20:49:48 FFIIRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!! *salutes* yay by AWll on 2006-12-21 20:50:22 I guess the issue wasn't to give her seizures, then. They were avoiding that aspect, so that eliminates that theory (to make it seem as though she were possessed for the ceremony). And they were giving her iron pills for anemia, so I doubt that's what they were giving this to her for. So that eliminates that, I guess. Maybe this isn't the main thing they were giving her, but something else they were giving her to help with high blood pressure, caused by something else. Or maybe Bree's ill and we didn't know it? Maybe an illness that causes hallucinations? by Jackie on 2006-12-21 20:50:25 In my opinion, the simple GarageBand loops as musical accompaniment lower the quality of the video...still good though. by JayBGrant on 2006-12-21 20:50:23 #56 Krig-- the only other number I saw was on the elevator by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:51:05 the music is so sweet by AWll on 2006-12-21 20:51:09 OMG, top 100.. I know... late and kinda lame... but... FFFFFFIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, I'm done... Meep. by mikel888 on 2006-12-21 20:51:38 is the # a phone #?? by *rozzy-poo* on 2006-12-21 20:51:57 hahaha... 69.... I'm coool... *laugh* by mikel888 on 2006-12-21 20:52:31 Anyone else notice the helicopter again? Not sure what it implies -- maybe just that this thing's huge? by Jackie on 2006-12-21 20:53:08 hmm.. one thing is missing in the Epogen reading stuff.. no mention of how it's administered. that is CRUCIAL. If it can't be done intramuscularly.. something else is going on. Has anyone seen anything on how this stuff is given? by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-21 20:53:42 Well, in this order, the numbers I saw were 220 219 195 and 1. I don't know. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:54:11 Jackie - there's been helicopters in too many vids to be random. Good catch, thank you.. now going back to rewatch! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-21 20:55:40 Yay another video! Daniel likes the B&E, but um, who uses the elevator when sneaking around? Wouldn't the stairs have been safer? by AlliBean on 2006-12-21 20:56:07 maybe she has a really bad period? by the_follower on 2006-12-21 20:56:46 My mom is a doctor, and said she was pretty sure it can be administered intravenously. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:56:48 Ok, is 220 219 1951 a phone number? I don't want to prank anyone. I'm going to go look at the forums ans see if anyone has already figured it out. by krig on 2006-12-21 20:58:02 Pinko- can it be administered intramuscularly? (Bree had her shots in her upper arm.. not by a vein, but a muscle.) by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-21 20:58:34 And that it would be faster to reach bone marrow through the veins, rather than muscles. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 20:58:55 220 isn't an area code. The first number that was shown was a 2, on the elevator, that was the floor he went to (I think). 222 isn't an area code, either. Also, anyone wanna record the sounds Daniel heard when he ran? And maybe see if they can hear something if they enhance it? It sounded odd... like groaning, or a machine... or even the kind of chanting you hear Buddhist monks doing. by Jackie on 2006-12-21 20:59:20 220 is not an area code by krig on 2006-12-21 20:59:21 if you go to www.anywho.com you can reverse look up any number...doesnt belong to anyone...but just maybe... by the_follower on 2006-12-21 21:00:05 jc_gypsy7: EPOGEN® is usually given up to 3 times a week for patients on hemodialysis. It may be put right into the dialysis tubing during a dialysis treatment (intravenous or IV) or as an injection under the skin (subcutaneous or sub-Q).2 by Jackie on 2006-12-21 21:00:35 jc_gypsy... all I found is it's given by injection, and apparently the type of injection is specific ("Do not give yourself an injection if you do not understand how or where to inject this medication.") by Perky on 2006-12-21 21:01:02 220 isn't an area code, so I guess its not a phone number or at least not in that order by AlliBean on 2006-12-21 21:01:33 Ok, if first number on elevator was 2, then 220 219 195 and 1, how does this look? 1 591 912 0222 Nope, reverse doesn't work either. 591 is not an area code. by krig on 2006-12-21 21:02:55 woo hoo...I told you...that boyDB is one hell of "B&E" man by Slainte on 2006-12-21 21:02:58 They gave here the medication because they were going to use lots of her blood in the ritual. They wanted to make sure she did not die from shock. Sounds like they really do care about her. :P by amarullis on 2006-12-21 21:03:15 951 is a California area code... don't know if that helps by AlliBean on 2006-12-21 21:03:23 Jc_gypsy-- she said it wasn't likely to be injected intramuscularly, when I asked her intially how she it would be administered, she just said IV. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:03:47 krig: Maybe an 8? The number he saw right after the series of numbers over the doors was an 8? Only... it's meant to be an infinity symbol. But maybe. Just taking stabs here by Jackie on 2006-12-21 21:04:26 Nah, I guess it isn't a phone number, but rather something else. :( by krig on 2006-12-21 21:04:29 So, we should try to mix up those numbers, starting with 951 by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:04:29 hmm. by uncreativename on 2006-12-21 21:05:14 Epogen is a real drug What is epoetin alfa injection? EPOETIN ALFA (Epogen®, Procrit®) is a man-made form of erythropoietin, which stimulates the production of red blood cells. Sometimes, your body does not make enough erythropoietin, and that may cause anemia. Epoetin alfa acts treats anemia associated with chronic kidney failure, cancer chemotherapy, or HIV-therapy. Epoetin alfa may also be used before surgery if you have anemia. Generic epoetin alfa injections are not available. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-21 21:05:29 She was also taking iron pills orally.... by cookie on 2006-12-21 21:05:34 OMG 96! by uncreativename on 2006-12-21 21:05:39 uuhhhh some action :D now i wanna see bree in a leather suit (catwoman style ^^) kicking some order's butt ^^ Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 21:07:38 ***first*** sorry general... *salutes* by NAXAN on 2006-12-21 21:08:12 951-202-1921 Maybe? or 951-192-2021 by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:08:36 It was "In The Park".. I think they were Iron Pills. by cookie on 2006-12-21 21:08:37 Or maybe we're just trying too hard with the phone numbers thing, haha. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:09:19 in area code 951 there is a 220 prefix... maybe 1-951-220-2219? just a guess. haven't tried it by AlliBean on 2006-12-21 21:10:20 People in California are going to be so pissed tonight. by Jackie on 2006-12-21 21:11:27 oops I meant a 202 prefix by AlliBean on 2006-12-21 21:11:32 Ok, on the forums they scrambled up the numbers to look for phone numbers too, and no luck so far. by krig on 2006-12-21 21:11:54 thank you, pinko - and thank your Mom as well! :) k folks.. one last thing to take a look at.. from what I've seen, this could be it.. http://www.epogen.com/pdf/epogen_ppi.pdf check the 7th page down.. it shows the area on her body where the shots were received.. (or at least her bandages were!) so.. she was being primed for something that required increased red blood production. like the introduction of cells to begin or reintroduce another race.. someone a while back suggested Bree stood for Breeder.. am hoping that is not the case, but am scared that it may be. night all. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-21 21:12:15 jackie, i was just thinking that. lol by AWll on 2006-12-21 21:12:23 Maybe Allibean, if you're in the area you should try it... I just inversed all the sets, but if that sounds like a plausible number to you... by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:12:34 I think we are conditioned to look for phone numbers everywhere now. Maybe it means something else. by krig on 2006-12-21 21:12:51 haha Jackie #106, true by AlliBean on 2006-12-21 21:12:52 BY THE WAY: TOP TEN ETIQUETTE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW: Everyone (basically) wants to be in the top 10. I don't know why, but they do. It's a race. 10 people deserve that chance. SO, if you get into the top 10, DEAR GOD, don't post more than once, people! Post once. Wait. Let others get into the top 10. After that, post away. But if you post two or three times, that takes spots away from others that are just as pathetic as you and I. Man, been wanting to rant about that forever. That is all. Carry on. by Jackie on 2006-12-21 21:13:41 Oh man! Bree for Breeder, that's almost as good as gnome's "B.R.E.E" What was it? Beta ribozyme something something by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:14:13 OH, if we try it and it's wrong, say "I'm watching" or ask for Michael Hunt! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:15:05 Daniel really likes to break into places, doesn't he? FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEEP THE OF EVIL ORANGE by Joe on 2006-12-21 21:16:03 The info on Epogen says: "What is Epogen used for? ...certain scheduled surgeries... or if you are at risk for significant blood loss." One of the possible side effects is seizures... which explains why they were prepared with anti-seizure medication. Also, if she were scheduled for some significant blood loss, that would also explain the other heavy-duty antibiotic stuff. Sounds to me like she was scheduled for a rather unpleasant ceremony. by fryebaby on 2006-12-21 21:16:04 So, significant blood loss is probably important here. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:16:51 i tink that daniel beast is appealing and sexy grrrrrrrrrr and what even more sexy is that he got his girls back but i dont like that the creators are taking too long uggggggh hurry up already by angelbrunetta on 2006-12-21 21:18:36 Could these numbers be coordinates for something? by krig on 2006-12-21 21:20:50 His teeth are heinous. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:20:55 Or page numbers? *meep* Ok, I am going to bed. I expect a full solution by morning! :) by krig on 2006-12-21 21:22:27 Has anyone wondered if there's something wrong with Bree? Could she be autistic or schizophrenic? This is a girl who talks to toys. When speaking to a relative, she confirmed that P. Monkey and Owen were OK. What relative asks after your stuffed animals? A relative who knows you're a little cracked is who. So I'm wondering, does Epogen have any off-label uses with other meds? Remember, at the bowling alley, she was taking pills. Or, the Order could be Vampires (to state the obvious). by xtined on 2006-12-21 21:23:49 Epogen can also be used as a blood doping agent. It can increase the blood's capacity to carry oxygen. That would allow for better physical performance. How does that relate? I don't really know. However, Epogen is also not a cheap drug. The monthly cost of such a drug is $800-$1000 or more. So "the order" must also be well-funded. Kinda scary. by andy329 on 2006-12-21 21:24:14 Uh, she's not autistic, if you've ever met anyone who's autistic-- even high-functioning. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:24:43 Sorry I'm tired, where are these numbers you guys are getting? by gnome on 2006-12-21 21:26:33 According to: http://www.epogen.com/pdf/epogen_ppi.pdf Epogen can be administered one of two ways: SUBCUTANEOUS Route: EPOGEN® can be injected directly into a layer of fat under your skin. This is called a subcutaneous injection. When receiving subcutaneous injections, always change the site for each injection as directed by your doctor. You may wish to record and track the site where you have injected. Do not inject EPOGEN® into an area that is tender, red, bruised, hard, or has scars or stretch marks. Recommended sites for injection are presented in the figure below, including the outer area of the upper arm, the abdomen (except for the two-inch area around the navel), the front of the middle thighs, and the outer area of the buttocks. or INTRAVENOUS Route: EPOGEN® can be injected in your vein through a special access port put in by your doctor. This type of EPOGEN® injection is called an intravenous injection. This route is usually for hemodialysis patients. If you have a dialysis vascular access, to make sure it is working, continue to check your access as your doctor or nurse has shown you. Be sure to let your healthcare provider know right away if you are having any problems, or if you have any questions. My bet is that it was administered subcutaneously due to that one video that showed a piece of gauze taped to bree’s arm. by jgffachick on 2006-12-21 21:27:58 Maybe Epogen is just false packaging. Maybe the actual drug is ribozymes or something. by gnome on 2006-12-21 21:28:00 So apparently the elevator said 2B not 1? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:29:02 Okay, so it must have been subcutaneously administered in her upper arm. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:30:21 but she seemed to keep getting injected in the same place, yeah? Damn, I was considering going out tonight, but that clearly didn't happen-- damn chat and new video. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:31:37 new viewer here. Epogen is a highly expensive medication. Per the book "Dangerous Doses" by Katherine Eban, back in the early 2000s, many vials of Epogen were stolen and replaced with counterfeit or 'marked up' in dosing. by dsrtnomad on 2006-12-21 21:33:38 What is the numbers are IP addresses to a web site. Need to watch the video carefully. Hmmmm? by Joe on 2006-12-21 21:34:45 #124 xtined it's not needed to be crazy to talk to a stuffed animal, think about her situation, since she was little, she moved a lot, she was homeschooled, when she went to the public school she didnt have any friends, she didnt have any friends on her life, so she had to make up some ;) (i know it sounds a bit strange but this happens) Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 21:34:50 Essentially this drug is used to make the blood more efficient at it's job: carrying oxygen around the body. According to the info, it's used on people who are low on red blood cells, either because of certain illnesses or **because of blood loss.** Bree wasn't receiving this because she was sick. She was receiving it because they were preparing her for loss of blood. This is also why they had other precautionary drugs/info on antibiotics and anti-seizure meds. (One of the listed side effects.) by fryebaby on 2006-12-21 21:39:47 The thing that I find strange about this is that these drug companies are allowing the creators to use their names and products on this thing. The only way I could see this happening is that. A) In the end the drugs were used for a good thing and not some evil cult ritual. B) The creators make it very clear what the drugs do or don't do. by Joe on 2006-12-21 21:40:25 Has anyone been able to find any information pertaining to the effects of an overdose of Epogen? I've been looking, and it seems odd to me that there appears to be none. by ApotheosisAZ on 2006-12-21 21:41:05 OMG soooooooooooo quick] by rosieiswatching on 2006-12-21 21:46:51 #138 ApotheosisAZ http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a692034.html Symptoms of overdose may include: headache leg pain or swelling chest pain or tightness fast heartbeat irregular heartbeat shortness of breath coughing up blood swelling of the hands, feet, or ankles blue-grey color or darkening around mouth or nails excessive sweating dizziness fainting blurred vision temporary confusion slow or difficult speech weakness or numbness of an arm or leg loss of memory or ability to concentrate extreme tiredness seizures coma by fryebaby on 2006-12-21 21:47:10 #138 "What happens if I overdose with Epogen? Seek emergency medical attention if you think you have used too much of this medication. Symptoms of an Epogen overdose are not known." from www.drugs.com/epogen.html by Perky on 2006-12-21 21:48:08 Can anyone see the numbers written on the small brown box that has the drugs? Not the big one with the 8 or infinity symbol. The smaller brown boxes that are in them. by Joe on 2006-12-21 21:49:01 My word, I am SHOCKED! Shocked, I tell you. Breaking and entering, Mister Beast? Again? Well...I didn't see you 'break' but I sure saw you enter...and steal stuff. That Epogen don't come cheap, bub. But, I guess it's nice to know that warehouses full of drugs aren't secure. Morphine anyone? by Moondoogle on 2006-12-21 21:49:26 #140 is that iron toxicity, or Epogen-specific overdose? by Perky on 2006-12-21 21:49:53 I think it's funny when he said "You ever see that movie alien? I feel like Ripley." *meep* (just thought i'd add that,haven't seen too many meeps tonight =) ) by ncbabe6 on 2006-12-21 21:50:54 #143 "But, I guess it’s nice to know that warehouses full of drugs aren’t secure. Morphine anyone?" Hahaha. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:52:24 Incidentally...I really like the music on this one. Kinda like if James Bond were a jazz musician. I hope they don't forget to credit the band...whoever they may be. by Moondoogle on 2006-12-21 21:52:55 #140 fryebaby omg, i had an epogen overdose without taking it :O i had those symptoms one time a few years ago (without the coma of course :p) Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 21:53:04 #144 Perky... it refers to it as the possible symptoms for epoetin alfa overdose. by fryebaby on 2006-12-21 21:53:47 thanks by Perky on 2006-12-21 21:55:09 #148 Yikes! by fryebaby on 2006-12-21 21:56:09 hey Pop a 40 and check your rollies cause im back!!! please hold your applause… never mind. applause away!!:) by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 21:56:43 You bring the stuff? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 21:58:30 *hands over random stuff* sure. by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 21:59:23 Why is it that everytime a LG video is posted where is has mystery involved, like mysterious music, etc etc, that everyone has to comment with "Um okay hello Blair Witch." I mean wtf. Are we ALWAYS going to compare everything in the world to that? They were just making the audience feel that it's a very creepy and mysterious "abandoned" warehouse. They weren't going for a "Blair Witch". by Jonneh on 2006-12-21 21:59:32 Just because Daniel thinks that's what was injected does not mean that's the only thing injected. Also, in addition to the possibility of a blood ritual, it could be a case of blood doping, as someone mentioned. Athletes specifically up their red cell count to reduce muscle fatigue. (Not legal, of course.) by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-21 22:01:28 Daniel is a regular criminal. this is the 3rd time he has broken in to a building. whats next stabing a watcher to death!? by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 22:04:12 Musta missed the Blair Witch comments here. Besides...I don't think Blair witch had any music. Did it? :-) by Moondoogle on 2006-12-21 22:05:31 IP address of 220.219.195.2 resolves to a japanese dialup it looks like: ntkngw100002.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp Also, the #s on the box that the Epogen is in: 8232 1-18-06 would be a lot# (basically saying what batch it was from the factory), and the expiration date. So yes, it's expired, and that explains how the creators were able to pick it up instead of spending big bucks. I can't read the dose on the box but the price can range from $65 to $1800 per vial. by dsrtnomad on 2006-12-21 22:06:09 #157 that would be kewl :DD by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 22:06:23 Wasn't it nice of the camera to move itself out of the way so Daniel could cut open the box. by Joe on 2006-12-21 22:07:15 I felt like Brad Pitt in Seven going "What's in the box!?!?!?" by Turbofist on 2006-12-21 22:08:35 Yet another B&E for dannyboy.... Damn Daniel, Your seriously turning badass. by BigDaddyRome on 2006-12-21 22:08:53 Hey guys. Normally I don't write. I'm a pharmacy student and looked it up on the drug references for you.. Starting dose: Adults: 50 to 100 units/kg 3 times/week IV or subcutaneously.1, 2 If you don't get the result you want you can increase the dose but not frequency. I don't think you can give this daily.. You cannot give this intramuscular.. it is i.v. or s.c. Hope this helps... Unless the writers made an error or unless Brees parents were giving it incorrectly.. by Tennafox on 2006-12-21 22:12:14 the next video will be daniel on an episode of cops. filmed in the lg15 universe with the men and women of law enforcement. by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 22:12:29 Benefits of Maintaining Hb Levels Within the NKF-KDOQIâ„¢ Target* With EPOGEN® Improvement in Quality-of-Life Parameters Energy / activity level Sex Life Functional ability Well-being Sleep and eating behavior Psychological effect Health status Life satisfaction Satisfaction with health Happiness Improvement in Disease Symptoms Exercise capacity (VO2 max) Dizziness Energy Anxiety Strength Shortness of breath Aching Muscle weakness Leg cramps by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 22:15:41 #162- Oh man, if only it had been Bree's head... Obviously that would be bad, but damn, what a twist. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 22:16:01 dsrtnomad, Thank you. I guess this means my ideas suck. Stupid Japanese dialup, why couldn't they be a dialup cult or cult dialup. by Joe on 2006-12-21 22:17:15 Tennafox: It can be given s.c. in that spot, can't it? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 22:17:19 #167 PinkoLady I was thinking more along the lines of Gemma's head lol by heather on 2006-12-21 22:17:45 Hmmm, hmm hmm , hmm , hhmm...la... dee ...da ... dee ...da... ,, Oh, yeah... the link between Epogen and recombinant DNA research... http://www.amgen.com/science/about_biotechnology_recombinant_dna_technology.html by WatchingOne on 2006-12-21 22:18:47 FFFFFIIIIIRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!11!!! *salutes the general* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-21 22:20:20 #124 xtined: Actually, that's a theory I haven't heard or thought about before (the vampire thing). The Watchers do always wear sunglasses. Hm. by Jackie on 2006-12-21 22:21:35 daniel will continue with his criminal ways. bree must like the bad boys. *sings* Bad boys bad boys watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 22:21:37 Isn't this Daniel's third strike? That means he goes to jail for life. Which means anything else he does is a freebie. by Joe on 2006-12-21 22:22:03 173: Are they raybans? Vampires wear raybans. Am I totally a tool for remembering that commercial...? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 22:23:44 EPOGEN® is indicated for the treatment of anemia in patients with chronic renal failure on dialysis. EPOGEN® is contraindicated in patients with uncontrolled hypertension. Erythropoietic therapies may increase the risk of seizures, thrombotic events, and other serious events. The target hemoglobin (Hb) should not exceed 12 g/dL. If the Hb increase exceeds 1.0 g/dL in any 2-week period, dose reductions are recommended. In a study with hemodialysis patients with clinically evident cardiac disease, where the target hematocrit (Hct) was 42% (Hb = 14 g/dL), an increased incidence of thrombotic events and mortality was seen. The reason for increased mortality observed in this study is unknown. Cases of pure red cell aplasia (PRCA) and of severe anemia, with or without other cytopenias associated with neutralizing antibodies to erythropoietin, have been reported in patients treated with EPOGEN®. A sudden loss of response to EPOGEN®, accompanied by severe anemia and low reticulocyte count, should be evaluated. If anti-erythropoietin antibody-associated anemia is suspected, withhold EPOGEN® and other erythropoietic proteins. EPOGEN® should be permanently discontinued in patients with antibody-mediated anemia. Patients should not be switched to other erythropoietic proteins. The most commonly reported side effects in clinical trials were hypertension, headache, arthralgias, and nausea. there's a lot of info about this stuff xD Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 22:23:48 oh? More?.....O.K...... Recombinant DNA technology involves genetic engineering, in which genes from one type of cell are spliced into genetic material of another cell, which, in turn, churns out the desired biological product. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-21 22:24:49 sorry i will never put any of you thru my singing again. it has been ruled a weapon of mass destruction by 32 states. by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 22:26:16 quote from #171 "The technique of recombinant DNA, illustrated above, is fairly easy to grasp. Using proteins called restriction enzymes, individual genes from human DNA or genetically engineered in the laboratory, are isolated and inserted into small circular pieces of DNA cut with the same enzyme, known as plasmids. Once inserted into a plasmid, the gene can be glued in place using another enzyme called DNA ligase. Restriction enzymes and DNA ligase are the scissors and glue of recombinant DNA technology. Once constructed in this way, the recombinant plasmid is inserted into a bacterial, yeast or cultured animal cell in a process called transformation. At Amgen, we use the bacteria Eschericia coli (E. coli), baker's yeast, and a number of mammalian cell lines, including the Chinese Hamster Ovary cell line (CHO cells) we use to produce EPOGEN® (Epoetin alfa)." everything is connecting? or not? :P Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 22:26:18 What if the cult is actually just a bunch of black market drug runners. They sell expired medicines to unsuspecting third world countries. Bree was going to be their new mule. That would be a lame story. Which means only one thing. Time for bed. Good night all! by Joe on 2006-12-21 22:31:49 A little more to chew on: Recent evidence for evolution of the genetic code. S Osawa, T H Jukes, K Watanabe and A Muto Department of Biology, Nagoya University, Japan. SUMMARY The genetic code, formerly thought to be frozen, is now known to be in a state of evolution. The use of or introduction of rDNA to form a new human mitochondria have been particularly successful. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-21 22:32:42 You know I came here looking for the idiot fudge withe had told us about and theres a new vid YAY by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-21 22:32:53 Night all! # 145, I totally agree! *MEEP*!!!! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-21 22:34:22 shouldnt this video be called breaking and entering again? all this genetic talk in going over my little brain! ME NO UNDERSTAND!! !!INFORMATION OVERLOAD!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 22:36:15 Vampires. The Order are Vampires. Its that simple. Mwahahahaha! Ah, I by Cee on 2006-12-21 22:37:38 I love Vampires^ by Cee on 2006-12-21 22:38:16 OMG NO *pressing the giant red button* "shutting down cloud_ax brain in...10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...shut down concluded" ok, danger's over ^^ Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 22:39:32 i'm a vampire :| *meep* Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 22:41:01 second. by lg15addict on 2006-12-21 22:41:34 SNAP!! that was close! thanks jo!!! my tiny brain allmsot a-sploded. smoke was coming out my ears and everything!! i think the fire department was called. by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 22:44:00 #176 Pinko: That's not why you're a tool ^_^ If I piss you off, do we still get to mud wrestle? be back later, all by Jackie on 2006-12-21 22:44:24 Product placement at its finest... by Me on 2006-12-21 22:46:46 On this side of the world, Epogen is very well-know as "EPO", a drug used by athletes, notably bicycle riders, impossible to detect : there are regular scandals on the Tour de France about it. This could be used because she was anemic, and the Order, monitoring her health, noticed that and wanted her fit. This could also be used to improve her endurance to increase her learning power and make it easier to go through an intensive ceremony. by B-as-in-B on 2006-12-21 22:46:47 #191 eheh no prob, the giant red button exists for something ;) Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 22:47:46 I'm going to guess and say the numbers don't mean anything. If they do, it's beyond me at this point (although I did just get done working a 12 hour day). So. Here's my thinking. Epogen increases your sex drive (or life, however it was put). They were pumping her with this stuff so she could be the virgin sacrifice (just like we thought all along!). Giving her these injections increase sex drive, meaning she can BREEd, or..something. I dont't know. This has probably been covered and I apologize. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 22:48:36 192# Jackie: Only if by mud-wrestle you still mean... let's make out. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 22:50:29 #196 hmmm i dont think so, that would lead to a very hardcore or pornographic video :x and....there are young ppl watching this xD Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 22:51:52 Ok, I haven't gone through all the posts yet but I want to say I loved this one. The music and the Daniel "You Got Nuthin" Beast chase was great. The only thing that was kinda lame was me going "is he going to get out without being caught?"... "oh yeah, he posted it so he must have made it out..." Blair Witch was better with suspense because it was "some video we found" and you don't really know what happened to the people until the end of the movie. Here if I'm watching the video, they must be ok. But besides that, I loved it! by lg15addict on 2006-12-21 22:54:12 The thought of the virgin sacrifice came up a loooong time ago. I'm not sure that it has any bearing on the real story at all...but who knows? If Bree was picked for this ceremony over who knows how many people (it's some huge honor) there must be a reason. A) She's attractive B) She's intelligent C) She's naive enough to let her parents drug her Also, back when we were all researching Crowley, there was mention of his ceremonies dealing with crazy sexual acts. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 22:54:39 #192 and #197... W T F ! ? ! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 22:55:02 Does anyone remember in which video Bree told us she was getting weekly injections to prepare for the ceremony? by robtomorrow on 2006-12-21 22:56:50 Creators, if I see another Slacker Skating video like the last one, I'm going to shoot myself and if I survive, I'm coming after you... Just kidding but compared to Daniel, those slackers at the ranch seem irrelevent. What their next video going to be, "Proving Potheads Wrong"? by lg15addict on 2006-12-21 22:57:49 Robtomorrow No, but I'm fairly certain that in the screen shot for the video you can see the huge bandage. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 22:57:50 Yes, there were at least a couple of videos that she had the bandage on her arm, but there was one in which she actualy said she was getting weekly injections. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-21 23:00:31 Ha! Good point. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 23:00:57 200. Many would say that Gemma is as or more attractive, and intelligent, and she wasn't chosen. I feel being the "chosen one" has to lead up to a lot more than that. Then again, at this point, the whole "chosen one" thing could be crap, and it could have happened to Gemma. By the way, why did Gemma talk about that family disappearing? It might get Bree to trust her, but it, in no way, would make her go through with the ceremony. Actually... they must have decided to make Gemma part of The Order and OpAphid at the last minute, because a lot about what she said and did doesn't really makes sense. Crowley was definitely a sex fiend. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:01:00 207. I'm sure that at the end, it will have led up to more than that...I mean, I hope it does anyway. There may be a reason she wasn't chosen though. At this point, there are so many loose ends to tie up that I can't even begin to image where this will go. Maybe (and this is really a huge stretch, and wishful thinking that the Creators have thought this far ahead and didn't made a last ditch effort to turn Gemma into evil), when Gemma was seemingly on Bree's side, she really was trying to help. Then, maybe, the Order saw what she was doing and threatened her to stop. Seeing Bree's life caught on tape, maybe Gemma realized that she'd rather follow the Orders demands than live a life like Bree's. Like I said, huge stretch. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 23:06:34 what if gemma and bree eventually meet and start beating the crap out of each other? interesting? wow i think i am still suffering from the information overload. i think its time to go. see ya!!! MEEPx2 by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 23:08:13 meepers, mister! by jerik on 2006-12-21 23:09:08 According to OpAphid though, she was working with OpAphid (and thus, with the Order) before Bree started making videos, and had tried to kill Brother-- so, unfortunately, the latter part seems unlikely. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:09:13 Okay an anemic is someone who needs a drug like EPOGEN® so that it can make up for the loss of blood their body produces (elementary i know but basically thats what it does.) Was there some type of blood sacrifice that they wanted her to do? and had them give her that Rx and double up on iron so that she would be able to recover faster? im i making any sense? by voyboy on 2006-12-21 23:09:52 I think Gemma would own Bree-- it's been discovered that "Ms Pouty Lips" is a badass. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:10:19 I really need to start watching the OpAhpid/Taychon videos. I started to when they first were being made and then I stopped. Unfortunately, that will have to wait until the morning. Night all! by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 23:10:53 Bree's parents were not going to be allowed to go to the ceremony their own daughter was a star in. Was that because a parent couldn't handle watching what was happening to their daughter at that ceremony? by Jack K on 2006-12-21 23:11:17 EEK! by hella_samira on 2006-12-21 23:12:20 #208 and it can be that DNA thingy that was discussed in the last video :| #209 sure, but i still defend the ideia of the leather suits ^^ (buffy style, buffy vs fayth? XD) Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:13:02 Dude, seriously. Daniel is totally developing some serious skillz here for a lucrative career...IN THIEVING. I'm grateful for the plot advances, but jeez. :) by eliza on 2006-12-21 23:13:58 Jack That only seems logical. That's why I think it's something more "mature" than just talking in a different language and facing towards the sun (whatever those exercises were she was doing with Lucy). Obviously, younger people are watching this, but I think it's going to get dark. Ahh..the internet. No ratings by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 23:14:04 sorry guys i see that was already mentioned my bad. by voyboy on 2006-12-21 23:14:33 pinkolady - bree would bring an equalizer like the skateboard, beat gemma bloody and say youve been pwnd bit*h! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 23:14:55 #215 good point.... o_O *wears the superman cape* DONT WORRY BREE! I'M COMING FOR YOU!!! *fly away* by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:16:22 Jack - I actually thought the same thing a long time ago, but never said anything because i didnt want anyone to think i was being pervy. by voyboy on 2006-12-21 23:16:48 #213 i dont think so, dont forget that bree has the help of her 3 furry friends ^^ by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:18:46 221- But apparently, Gemma would have already planted a bomb on her. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:19:24 k, that was a creepy video... It scared me. by gracie on 2006-12-21 23:19:36 Often pregnant womenn or women wanting to become pregnant take iron. Anemia is a common problem associated with pregnancy. by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-21 23:21:45 jo did you just fly away!?!?! teach me!!! Pinkolady - its common knowlege that you dont bring a bomb to a skateboard fight. you bring a sledgehammer to one!!;) by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 23:22:17 #225 sure, but p.monkey would climb by gemma's back and deactivate the bomb ^^ by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:22:48 EXACTLY! I'm telling you...the Order had big plans for Bree and her womb. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 23:22:53 Geez, why would anyone expect Daniel to be worried about petty crimes like breaking and entering or taking a clue when he's potentially (and probably) in mortal peril, on the run from a force much greater and darker than the california penal system dealing with a white kid!? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:24:37 Alright, based on the price of the drug, maybe taking it was so "petty" a crime... but still. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:27:12 cloud_ax it's all in the knees ;) well that thing of breeding and stuff, sure it would be kinda credible but....i still think that is a little hardcore to a "show" like this one, i mean, it's possible that 12 years old children watch this! :S by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:27:34 I don't think Bree is in any danger of having to face the ceremony at a later time. If just going to the park with Danial for a couple hours nearly disqualified her on grounds of lost purity, then traveling with, and living with two guys is bound to get the order's purity noses out of joint. If they see her as no longer qualified - then why are they still chasing her? by Jack K on 2006-12-21 23:28:36 dork admission: When D turned the camera around and set it on one of the boxes, I thought HE turned around and someone was behind him. And I totally screamed. Woke the dogs. Feel like a total moron. by eliza on 2006-12-21 23:28:58 Maybe so. Who knows. I'm really not getting anywhere here anyway, so I'm off to bed. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-21 23:29:12 I don't know, I'm leaning more toward a more scientific (or... whack scientific) goal-- the religious aspect really just seems to be a cover to me. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:30:03 Can Someone give me a brief overview of what we've learned its late and i don't want to waste time reading by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-21 23:30:58 all in the knees, eh? i try it sometime. time for bed. catch ya on the flip side!! MEEPx4 *singing* i belive i can fly... by cloud_ax on 2006-12-21 23:31:37 234: Then again, she was constantly in her room with Daniel, alone, with the door closed. 325: HA. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:32:23 Was anybody else in the chat when itscassie showed up? I felt kind of bad for her, she was trying so hard, the Creators where in the room checking things out, and alot of people were giving her a hard time. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-21 23:32:43 #238 we learned that there are a lot of pervs here (just joking, dont hurt me ppl >. by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:34:20 If she weren't so stupid, we wouldn't have given her a hard time. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:36:31 jo i knew that im talking about lg here not the lonelycrack addicts like me stayin up all night by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-21 23:36:54 Why do you think she was stupid? I didn't think so. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-21 23:37:55 Because she says things like "I'll be awake in the darkest of nights, dreading my own death." by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:39:46 #244 oh ok, but the message, it wasnt completly posted :S the rest disappeared, oh well, we found out that epogen is used to ppl with anemia and that kind of problems, and if bree is taking epogen, and iron pills, in the ritual she would probably loose a lot of blood (the pervs say that she would be ra.....hmmmm dark stuff XD) Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:40:56 I mean, have you seen her videos? Ugh, can't stand her. I'm so glad she's not canon. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:41:06 ok they want blood but for what?? would it make a healthy person stronger maybe? were they just trying to fortofy what was already good so they wouldn't drain her so bad? by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-21 23:42:29 I'm sorry I missed that, was that in a video, it wasn't in chat, or are you talking about the anagrams ? She said she is not the one who sent the anagrams. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-21 23:42:58 I would guess it was for fortifying her in preparation of a good deal of blood loss. #171 is interesting. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:45:19 #249 in the last video, some ppl talked about some DNA stuff, and that probably bree's dna would be compatible to make genetic transferences or something like that :s too much for my little brain xD Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:47:00 #250 Yeah, it was in one of her lame videos. Really, you should watch them if you want to understand why I dislike her and am so thankful she's not a real character in LG15-- her videos are really dumb. She also told Daniel she was going to eat his parents, and scanned a ridiculous looking fake yearbook picture of Bree. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-21 23:47:40 ok thanks jo im off to bed i have work in 5 hours so i should try and sleep Thanks again Lisa by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-21 23:49:04 well, i'll go to bed now, it's almost 7 am here and i'm still awake (no, it's not already, it's still, i've been awake all night xD) and the stupidity starts to attack >. by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-21 23:55:49 Epogen is a drug that is to treat anemia in renal patients. Read trancript from website http://www.epogen.com/ EPOGEN® is indicated for the treatment of anemia in patients with chronic renal failure on dialysis. Important Product Safety Information EPOGEN® is contraindicated in patients with uncontrolled hypertension. Erythropoietic therapies may increase the risk of seizures, thrombotic events, and other serious events. The target hemoglobin (Hb) should not exceed 12 g/dL. If the Hb increase exceeds 1.0 g/dL in any 2-week period, dose reductions are recommended. In a study with hemodialysis patients with clinically evident cardiac disease, where the target hematocrit (Hct) was 42% (Hb = 14 g/dL), an increased incidence of thrombotic events and mortality was seen. The reason for increased mortality observed in this study is unknown. by rosieiswatching on 2006-12-22 00:05:23 i heart daniel the rebel by cookiecake on 2006-12-22 00:07:33 235 eliza, you're not alone, I thought the same thing and jumped, I didn't scream but I did jump! by psueb on 2006-12-22 00:15:25 Aleister Crowley-->occultist-->opposed to 'knowledge of the measurable' (i.e. science) Bree's dad-->supposedly very religious-->working for some science company-->giving his daughter epogen shots. modern alchemy perhaps? by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 00:16:04 does anyone besides me and my friend Lara here think that NikkiBower could be cannon? I mean....check her videos...she just seems...too good! not to mention, when she saw Gemma (whether that was her or not...) she didn't like FLIP OUT (cause, even if that was some random neighbor girl...I dunno, I would!). Also, were she cannon... does she look kinda like... Tachyon to anyone? by notabenz on 2006-12-22 00:23:16 More on Epogen and seizures: (sorry if someone already found this info)http://www.epogen.com/patient/understanding_epogen/side_effects.jsp You should tell your doctor if you have any history of seizures. Seizures have occurred in patients on EPOGEN® and are more likely during the first 90 days of therapy. Didn't we decide that one of the other drugs on the couch was to prevent seizures. And so the other one probably helped calm the side effects of the other drug. Some kind of crazy cocktail of meds. #235 Eliza LOL.... I can totally see that! by burgundymasque on 2006-12-22 00:30:08 Goals of alchemy: 1.The transmutation of metals 2.The creation of an elixir that would prolong life indefinitely 3.The transmutation of human life (illegal) 4.To search for the Philosophers Stone by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 00:32:32 WOW, daniel you rock my world! Just when I thought you were an idiot. You go and totally redeem yourself. Not only are you crazy, but you are my new hero. If I ever need someone to B&E for me. You are the man! Nice work....keep it up apparently Bree is off in lala land still with Jonas and their skateboarding expedition. by angie78gg on 2006-12-22 00:35:33 Transgenics (Messing with someones DNA or to a lesser degree RNA) can cause secondary effects like a reduction in red blood cell production. by ralfthedog on 2006-12-22 00:36:19 Did anyone that noticed the Goodgollyitsholly comment about pregnant women frequently being the recipients of Epogen shots remember that she was the same one who was contacted by daniel to be our representative for "the test" on Jonas? Does anyone have more knowledge of goodgollyitsholly than me? because in the comment page for that video (the test) she sounded to me a whole lot like she was a plant from the creators... someone who had some connection to the creators or something. She was way more sincere and non-goofing around than most of the LG15 page vets are... krig, gnome, lizard, and everyone like them. You know if one of the standard, obviously general public ringleaders (like those guys) had been contacted they would have been a lot more candid and personal about the situation than Goodgollyitsholly seemed to be. I follow this pretty closely, but tend not to watch the forums as much, so don't have as much knowledge as a lot of you guys. Am I the only person to think this? And if not, wouldn't that imply that her comment was meant to steer us in the right direction with this epogen mystery? Just thoughts. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 00:39:10 Breaking and entering isn't that hard when there are no locks or guards. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 00:40:39 FIRST!!!11!! *meep* Morning everyone. Did anyone read Holly's post that Anemia is a common problem associated with pregnancy? Fertility and pregnancy play major parts in most religions. So maybe the ritual wasn't going for the bleeding. With all the gene - theories going around here they could have tried to breed the perfect human being or fallen angel or whatever. by Dream on 2006-12-22 00:40:52 omg i was so excited that was some good stuff funny how he's always trying to be so careful yet he doenst think to look up and see a hellicopter..and another thing did anyone else think that that was his car that he saw he left it abandoned there trying to find him so they (the people of the order) found it amd now they use it??hmm pretty interesting by blondeambition on 2006-12-22 00:41:41 wait, i don't understand what people are trying to say... you think she's pregnant?! by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 00:43:37 I did a tiny bit of back checking on ggiholly. She didn't post on a video until "the test" but according to viewers who were commenting on that same video, she's an admin on the forums, and she regularly participates in chat. I have a good feeling that she has a connection to the creators. There were also discussions on that same video about her knowing amy aitken, which is a name i don't recognize, but you guys would probably know more about. Anyway, point is, I'm pretty sure she's sort of a creator plant, which means that we need to be subscribing to the theory that her comment about pregnancy is meant to direct us in the right direction regarding this epogen development. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 00:49:43 Well if Bree is going to have the Moonchild she will have to get pregnant............ by modelmotion on 2006-12-22 00:55:26 Creators: A "full screen view" button would sure be convenient on the web page. Anyone agree? On another note, Daniel sure does a lot of breaking and entering. THREE times so far! (Including Bree's house recently.) by Paulo on 2006-12-22 00:57:23 Bree celebrated the Equinox I wonder if she is celebrating the Winter Soltice, it was today, 7:22 pm EST, to be exact. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 00:57:34 Paulo, if you download it you can watch it in full screen view on the Quicktime player. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 00:59:15 Cuyler, Holly is very active in forums & chat, she is not very well known on the comment board though. I haven't known her before "the test" - and the test was not the best introduction to the comment boards. People did not react overly friendly and still are suspicious of her. But since then she drops a few lines every now and then, sometimes commenting on how hot Jonas is, sometimes saying a little more plot relevant things. Can't say if she's a plant or not, but her theory about pregnancy sounded worth discussing anyway. by Dream on 2006-12-22 00:59:44 I FIGURED IT OUT!!! The producers of Lonelygirl15 made a deal with the pharmacutical company to endorse their drug(Epogen) on this site so they can make money. It's pretty much the only reasonable explaination. The answer to 95% of all questions is "MONEY". by MadHadderall on 2006-12-22 01:03:45 Yes MadHadderall, I'm sure there is a huge market for a drug that treats anemia, on the lonelygirl15 website. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 01:06:22 Look what got edited out from LGpedia: Apart from vitamin B12, for which the dose schedule (what we know of it) seems to make sense, but which also shouldn’t make her feel awful, the other plausible possibility (well, if we are considering a mysterious, possibly blood-letting ritual!) is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoietin erythropoietin] (EPO), which DOES leave a lot of people feeling awful after having it injected - flu-like symptoms, headache, nausea etc. One type ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darbepoetin_alfa darbepoetin]) can be given once weekly." http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Bree%27s_injections&diff=prev&oldid=13975 by modelmotion on 2006-12-22 01:06:44 Back on December 1 we were discussing Erythropoietin as a possible injection. The creators appear to have picked up on this idea since its the same chemical. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoietin by modelmotion on 2006-12-22 01:11:28 #267 - that would make sense...the fallen angels mated with human women. maybe that's why the deacons wouldn't tell bree what exactly would happen during the ceremony. creepy stuff. by jerik on 2006-12-22 01:14:07 Modelmotion comment is a valid one, go ahead and check it , here is a link to it http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Bree%27s_injections&diff=next&oldid=10111 by rosieiswatching on 2006-12-22 01:17:41 erythropoietin = epogen in case you were wondering by modelmotion on 2006-12-22 01:22:50 #269 Maybe that's why Jonas is around, maybe the Order hired him! (Hell, who wouldn't break their purity bond with him?) by gnome on 2006-12-22 01:37:52 Maybe it's just that I've been cleaning out a closet full of baffling crap for 6 hours, but I thought of a theory. The names of the drugs on the brochures, and now on the box, probably create some anagram or something, and that will lead us to a dry cleaner in Kansas City, who will reveal that Bree's parents are in fact aliens. by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-22 01:39:18 #266 Exactly. Did anyone else think it was almost too easy for Daniel to break in? Wouldn't they anticipate this since he announced his intentions to check out their warehouses in his last vid? In theory, Gemma could still be checking this site. Maybe he was set up to find that medication to lead him/us in the wrong direction. by gnome on 2006-12-22 01:40:47 Robtomorrow: Sure, I could download the files but that's not my preference. I'd like to just click a button to see it bigger. Surely I'm not alone. (Currently, I lower my screen resolution before I hit play so it appears bigger. This is at least a little quicker than downloading.) by Paulo on 2006-12-22 01:42:31 Wow! Daniel has a lot of guts! to have a b&e for lucy's and this factory warehouse. yeah... I guess it's illegal, but in this instance, more pouwer to him!!! by mysilvertrumpet on 2006-12-22 01:50:03 Corporate Headquarters Amgen Inc. One Amgen Center Drive Thousand Oaks, CA ....north west of Topanga by modelmotion on 2006-12-22 02:01:21 Dream: Thanks for the info. I did a little more checking around and discovered basically what you told me: that she drops a lot of random comments about jonas being hot, along with some other, ocassionaly more relevant things. Then I proceeded to get totally distracted by the rest of the internet. I'd be willing to bet wer'e going to somehow discover bree was to be impregnated... which might or might not end up being intrinsic to discovering the actual goal and nature of the order... and whether or not it is connected to any of the actual religions, philosophies and cults which have been suggested thus far. What with all the virgin references and imagery surrounding bree and the order which are so prevalent in sub-canon breeniverse, it would be interesting to see if perhaps a virgin bearing a child has anything to do with it... by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 02:06:31 I don't think we should neccessarily assume virginity, or virgin's bearing children, universally has significance. Plenty of religions and cultures value sexuality above being virginal, and we shouldn't neccessarily function under the Judeo-Christian norm in our analysis. If it had been that big a deal, they probably wouldn't have let Bree and Daniel hang out so much-- like go hiking alone in the woods, in addition to being alone in her room with the door closed. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 02:13:27 eckkk I nearly pissed meself by MOozy on 2006-12-22 02:17:48 And on that note, I don't see all that many virgin references... by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 02:20:10 I agree that we ought not assume that the order functions under judeo-christian values. Indeed it is likely quite the opposite. However, I have to disagree that purity wasn't obviously highly valued, considering the actions/reactions of bree's parents, op-aphid, the deacons, bree's preparation for the ritual, lucy, and a pretty great deal of the bizarre, most likely completely non-canon stuff which has made its way into the breeniverse, like frankiswaking, numerous anagrams and alternate-language puzzles and poems which have shown up both in videos, on these comment pages, in private messages to commenters/forumers, and the like. Whether it's a bizarre poem about virgins, op-aphid creacking down about purity, bree's parents not letting her out of the house much, or any of the other various venues of discussion on the topic, I think that it's clear that purity- which historically has nearly universally included virginity pretty prevalenty- is very important to the order and to the ceremony. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 02:22:43 in any case, I wouldn't bank much on that being the case anyway. I just thought it was intriguing. There definitely was a lot of emphasis placed on bree's purity, maybe it's simply because, religiously, the members of the order felt she had to be worthy of being a part of the ceremony, just like how many non-cultish faiths (LDS, Catholocism to a degree, parts of Judaism, etc.) require moral worthiness to participate in certain rites, ceremonies, rituals, or other religious functions. No matter what it is, I think it's interesting to think about. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 02:35:15 I disagree, purity of mind, or heart are valued far more than viriginity in so many religions that aren't "of the book," especially enlightenment and nature based religions (including buddhism-- the reason celibacy is valued in buddhism is because sex is considered as bondage to the material world-- NOT because sex or not being a virgin is considered impure). So I don't believe that universally, or even nearly universally, is virginity neccessarily included in purity-- I think you're still stuck in the real of universally = most of the religious stuff you've seen = judeo-christian ethic-based stories. Consider this in the context of the fact that sheltered little Bree was able to have a shrine to Crowley in her room-- and the fact that she wouldn't let Daniel light the candles shows that she's been taught to put some value in this shrine-- and again, her parents were not very strict about how much private time she spent with Daniel. She could have lost her virginity any time when they went hiking, swimming, were holed up in her room. Etc. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 02:38:19 Also, just for the sake of accuracy, Judaism was a lot stricter about purity during worship than Catholicism-- and definitely a lot more than Mormonism. Women weren't allowed to worship during their period, or if any person had an open wound-- among a myriad of other restrictions. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 02:40:40 I can agree for the most part with you there. I still maintain that more than simply judeo-christian religions value virginity along with purity, but allow for the fact that, all in all, I don't know a whole heck of a lot about most other religions. some, but not a whole heck of a lot. So certainly, you are right that we ought not limit ourselves to focusing upon virginity as necessarily being important in our search for the nature of the order. And as far as the comment about judaic purity versus mormon or catholic purity... I don't think that that's stricter, I think it's just a different definition of what is an what is not impure. Doesn't really matter, though, just tossing random semantics in there because really, what else is there to talk about at quarter to 2 when you have to be at work at 6? by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 02:46:31 Also: Purity of mind can mean a lot of things. An impure mind, in this context, could include having doubt about her religion, or the Order, etc. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 02:47:12 I think on the comment board for the last vid someone remembered that Bree had violated her purity pledge by kissing Daniel. So I guess purity and virginity do belong together in the LG-cult. by Dream on 2006-12-22 02:48:59 Well, by stricter, I meant there are more restrictions-- in number, if not by definition of what makes you impure. It's only 2 there? 5 here. I've had a hard time falling asleep for as long as I remember, accented by frequent bouts of full on insomnia. My mistake was not going out tonight, which lately has caused me to pass out after getting home late. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 02:54:02 Dream: Ha, fair enough. Though that's so odd, considering all she was allowed to do alone with him. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 02:55:21 And also odd, considering her shrine of Crowley, who was, if anything, the opposite of virginal. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 02:56:33 300 already?? Good grief! (In my defence I had to sort out our heating system...which is now working and we are all warm again hooray!) by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 03:06:12 Thanks Dream, I was pretty sure that there was some kind of strictly canon reference to virginity being a part of bree's ceremony-necessary purity. I'm sure that she shouldn't have been allowed to spend all that time alone with Daniel. Bree's parents seemed kind of progressive and unsure about how to be the best parents they could to bree, though they obviously always tried. They seem to have been often times torn between their instincts and the order's rules, as is evident in her father's occasional mild reluctance regarding giving her ther injections, their inconsistently strict or lax policies regarding daniel, and their eventual allowance for Bree to back out of the ceremony. I'm sometimes bothered by how the whole cult seems to be so impossible. So many theories available, all of which seem so thouroughly viable and most certainly accurate due to some of the evidence available, while at the same time seemingly making it impossible for all of the other, equally viable possibilities to be true, each of which in turn cancel out the absoluteness of the first. I wonder if there is one absolute answer, or whether a) the creators kind of failed to adequately plan out what the cult actually was and have created so many mixed up clues that it can't possibly be any of them or b) the creators never intended for us to look this deeply into the whole thing about what exactly the order is. I really can't imagine it's b, since there are SO MANY CLUES about the nature of the order. It doesn't have to be a, but it worries me that it might be. It would sort of dampen my fun, i think. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 03:10:01 This all been posted already but just my two cents. Pretty sure its to do with blood letting... but darn all those injections and iron tablets?? were they going to drain the poor girl dry? Crowley had a ceremony that involved the blood of a virgin, (suprise suprise) hence the purity issue her folks had. I have his book "magick" somewhere in the attic (sick joke bought for me by a friend a few years back) I could see what the ceremony involved... by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 03:20:41 Wait... Epogen CAUSES seizures and Cerebyx (from "Back at Bree's) is an anti-seizure drug... by snurffle on 2006-12-22 03:22:52 did they have her on both? by snurffle on 2006-12-22 03:29:10 I think its do with something called the gnostic mass. I havent crawled through the attic for that book yet but I found reference to it in wiki...its wierd... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_XV,_The_Gnostic_Mass by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 03:29:10 Daniel is such a horrible ninja. He's so loud. by fantim on 2006-12-22 03:35:15 More weird blood letting stuff.. But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best. The truly great Magician will be able to use his own blood, or possibly that of a disciple, and that without sacrificing the physical life irrevocably. http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/aba/chap12.htm So a truely powerful magician can use the blood of a disciple without killing them...hence all the extra iron.. by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 03:38:30 Alright, I can finally reconsile Virgin with Crowley... but I don't think we can assume the ceremony is Gnostic Mass, largely because the creators don't want to imply that Thelemites still bleed virgins. I remember a couple of Thelemites getting really pissed of in the forums, and saying they never use human blood for gnostic mass anymore, etc. It definitely could be something similar... I actually do think the nature of The Order might be kind of sloppy, just because they might not have intially realized that using an existing religion with a decent sized following would be such a bad idea... by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 04:02:29 305-6: Since the purpose of Epogen isn't to cause seizures, I think she was on it to prepare her for significant blood loss as part of the "ceremony" or whatever they were going to do to her, and the Cerebyx was to prevent any seizures she could have a side effect of Epogen. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 04:05:33 I dont think the order were doing the gnostic mass either Pink it would have peed off too mant Thelemites if they put that in the storyline. They could have been doing something based on the gnostic mass though. What with that and the idea that Bree was meant to get pregnant... Its all getting a bit Blair witch in the Breeniverse! by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 04:07:03 I just thought of something....some people are bringing up it doesn't make sense that she seems to belong to a cult that is connected to Crowley. Crowley was no prude by any means and her parents yell at her for breaking her 'purity bond'. Some ppl on the forum have speculated that she could be a 'moonchild' or part of some Illuminati/Nazi-ish breeding experiment. What if the 'purity bond' didn't have to do with sex. What if Bree's parents are white supremacists and if Daniel is supposed to be Jewish (alhtough I don't know if that's speculation or canon), that is what her parents meant by breaking her purity bond. by gnome on 2006-12-22 04:07:44 Gnome, that's interesting. Or it could just be that it broke the purity bond because he's not in the order-- or a number of things. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 04:14:52 Although, since Bree's dad intially asked him to film the play, it might not be a Daniel-specific problem. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 04:17:03 good grief gnome! thats a good point! But... if they were white supremisists they wouldnt have let Bree go to a mix religion high school for that short time, and Daniel would never have been allowed round a Brees in the first place. He certainly wouldnt have been asked to film her summer camp play. by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 04:18:07 Speaking of religion...does anyone in LG celebrate Christmas? There is a severe lack of tinsle anywhere... by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 04:20:28 Still, it leaves open the possibility that something else about the purity-bond was violated by that kiss. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 04:22:36 Yeah, you'd think Jonas would have decorations for SOMETHING up. Even Hanukkah already started on the 15th, I think (though I guess he'd be Jonah, if he were Jewish?). by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 04:27:51 Although, if he lives alone... by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 04:28:46 best. video. ever. !!! I don't care if the music and style was a little over the top...I think this has a lot of suspense!! Way to go Creators! by wonderwander on 2006-12-22 04:30:05 #311 PL: Thanks, in my sleep deprived state I got blearily excited (didn't know that could actually happen) and in a joyful fit of new-vid-euphoria, posted without getting caught up on the comments. Started reading after blurting - sorry 'bout that. Thanks for setting me straight :) by snurffle on 2006-12-22 04:36:47 FFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!11!111111!!!!!1111!!!!1 by General Firstsayer on 2006-12-22 04:43:15 This is cool! I love all these drugs coming into the mix! (Yes... I'm a pharmacist... I like drugs...). Not only that (and this is the complete truth) I specialize in working with people with kidney disease, so I know oodles about this drug from personal experience! Ok, so here's a breakdown of things: 1. Epogen (erythropoetin) For those who don't know, healthy, normal kidneys make a chemical called erythropoetin, so it is a natural body chemical. This chemical is essential in helping the body make red blood cells. So people who have kidney disease don't make as much of this chemical as healthy people, and therefore they need to take erythropoetin shots to replace the chemical and therefore help the body make red blood cells. If they don't make many red blood cells they develop anemia. I suspect Bree's kidney's are healthy, but that she was getting this shot to make her body make more red blood cells (perhaps because they knew she was going to lose some?!?) 2. Iron pills - Those Creators tied these drugs together nicely. Now when you give Epogen to someone, it helps the body make the red blood cells, but the body needs enough of the raw materials to build them, and one of these is... *drum roll*... IRON! So if Bree is getting shots to boost red blood cells, she also needs to boost how much iron is in her body to keep up with production. I wonder if this further proves that they were going to try and perform some sort of surgery on her. Perhaps brain surgery? I mean it fits nicely that they want to help her make more blood now because she will lose some later. And they want to give her anti-seizure drugs to prevent seizures when they open up and work on her cranium. And they want to give her antibiotics because they want to prevent her from getting an infection when they cut her open. Morbid you say? But doesn't it make so much sense? Anyways, if anyone wants more info on the drug part of this discussion (because I love drugs so much!) feel free to message me. Cheers and Happy Holidays! by Amanda88 on 2006-12-22 04:47:16 Oh, and a technical thing (for the Creators): Epogen has to be kept refrigerated or else it goes bad. So if this story were real I would really hope that Daniel had entered a cold storage unit there. Otherwise... that's many thousands of dollars of drug just wasted ;) On that last note, all of those drugs that Bree was getting (except the iron pills) are very expensive here in Canada alone. I don't even want to know how much they cost in the States! by Amanda88 on 2006-12-22 04:51:01 SALUTES FFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIRRRRRSSSSSTTTTTTT!!1!!!!11! by jack russell terrorist on 2006-12-22 05:00:47 I also thought they might be planning some type of neurosurgerey Amanda88. Another possibility I thought of is that maybe Bree has cancer or something (although you think she would have informed Daniel or us by now). by gnome on 2006-12-22 05:10:57 The good old Danger Daniel is back, LOL. I like the breaking and entering videos a lot more.. This kind of reminds of the one where he broke in to Lucy's apartment.. Very good! by Jim on 2006-12-22 05:11:22 The good old Danger Daniel is back, LOL. I like the breaking and entering videos a lot more.. This kind of reminds of the one where he broke in to Lucy’s apartment.. Very good! by Jim on 2006-12-22 05:11:51 Maybe they were planning on lobotimizing her b/c she continuously disobeyed her parents or something. Sorry for the crappy spelling tonight folks. by gnome on 2006-12-22 05:12:07 #325 thanks for bringing that up Amanda. Maybe its not Epogen then and they just put it in Epogen packaging. I mean they had to know Daniel was coming - he posted his intentions in "Undisclosed Location", and obviously the Order knows about this site through Gemma. It seemed that this was too easy. Like they meant him to find that. by gnome on 2006-12-22 05:16:34 As an afterthought I figured I should leave this for future reference: Disclaimer: The information I provide is in no way substitute for that of other health care professionals (i.e. doctors, other pharmacists), so do not take it as such. It is an explanation of what may be occuring only in the fictitious Lonelygirl15 series. I don't want any cross-border lawsuits knocking at my door! Also, for any purists out there who think "But this isn't how they prepare someone for brain surgery", you're absolutely correct, but we must suspend some degree of reality here. It is fiction afterall ;) (I'd be very worried if it was real!) And to gnome... another very good hypothesis! She might have cancer which can also cause anemia. And perhaps she has a brain tumor, so therefore she would need anti-seizure drugs (brain tumors can cause terrible seizures). And maybe she has an infection from having a low immune system and is getting antibiotics. Hmmm... good one gnome! Now I'm going to be thinking about this all day at work ;) by Amanda88 on 2006-12-22 05:22:28 #332 LG15 invades my thoughts when I'm doing other things to like out with friends. I start to think, "well I should really go home early, there's probably a new vid" or if someone calls me and asks me to go out, instead of usually giving in I know think "do i really want to go out? there might be a new video?". On the other hand, I have saved a lot of money from going out to the bars (not to mention my liver). by gnome on 2006-12-22 05:33:25 Maybe she has a cancer or some disease and her parents don't want her to know. Maybe the whole 'ceremony' was to trick her into surgery. by gnome on 2006-12-22 06:06:52 Looks like I'm the only one posting....maybe I should retire for the night er morning.. by gnome on 2006-12-22 06:08:19 and well, i'm back ^^' i slept more than expected but oh well Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 06:35:21 FFFFFFIIIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!! by Maddingo on 2006-12-22 06:38:32 Whoo Daniel's becoming a proper little expert at this breaking and entering lark lol oh and can't forget, FFFFFFIIIIIRRRRRRRSSSSSSTTTTTT!!!!!11!!!!1 *salutes* *meep* by nobby1985 on 2006-12-22 07:09:36 they should've hired me to these scenes :\ i have a ninja degree :| Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 07:34:47 hehehe, morning all and don't feel bad, gnome- I've got the same thing going on here! (had to sneak in early - company coming in a half an hour, the beginning of the holiday madness rush!) I'm still thinking the Deacons had it right... Bree's going to be used to reintroduce a super-race to the world. (tho how the Creators will be able to do an insemination vid and maintain a PG13 rating is still eluding me....) ah well.. have fun everyone, laters, hopefully! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-22 07:39:04 Just wanted to comment that Crowley was not against science at all. In fact, he dug drugs a whole lot. And then there's alchemy. And like I posted yesterday, his good friend was Jack Parsons, who was the father of modern rocketry. That being said, everything we've seen leads me to believe there was a ceremony that involved her virginity and lots of bleeding. So again, Gemma's "it's not a religion" was bull. by Maddingo on 2006-12-22 07:51:33 Here's the URL for WebMD's description of "Epogen" (and its generic forms): http://www.webmd.com/hw/kidney_failure/tv7471.asp by SenecaDoane on 2006-12-22 08:00:38 Where is Tachyon?????? Does she usually take this long to post a vid? I wonder if she has been compromised? by gnome on 2006-12-22 09:03:56 #333 - Crap, I can really relate. Although, true, at least I've saved some booze money. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 09:10:15 hello everybody!! i love the theorys everyone! you guys are so smart!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 09:11:16 britney spears really gets naked on youtube!!, seriously check it out!!! haha -((http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NXvwXSnAX4 )) - u gota see it guys o myyyyyyy inside the brackets!! by britneynaked on 2006-12-22 09:11:59 I'm glad to see no new vids... I kinda hope she gave up after that fiasco of chat, heh. Everyone there probably thought I was being so obnoxious... and I was, and it was chase cassie away. My obnoxious forces combined with some other obnxious forces, I think, worked. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 09:12:52 britney spears really gets naked on youtube!!, seriously check it out!!! haha -((http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NXvwXSnAX4 )) - u gota see it guys o myyyyyyy inside the brackets!! , really check it out by britneynaked on 2006-12-22 09:13:01 Errr, about 347, I mean I'm glad to see no new itscassie vids. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 09:13:23 um no offense Britney #346 but I don't think anyone cares and its not appropriate for the young teens that watch this site (gee I sound old!) by gnome on 2006-12-22 09:14:02 Who wants to see Britney naked any more? I think your time machine is broken, fool, you want the late 90s. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 09:14:35 Also, can you offend Spambots? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 09:17:03 I went to Tachyon' site to check to see if there was a new vid and she last logged in an hour ago. Also, has anyone ever noticed that the girl in Tach's KnockEmDown video looks a lot like Nikki Bower? I swear that girl is canon. by gnome on 2006-12-22 09:18:39 #346 - MY EYES!!!! IT BURNSSSSSSS!!!!!!! AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 09:19:42 348 oh dear you sad sad fool... 347 Pink I missed the cassie chat! What happened? by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 09:21:36 britney spears really gets naked on youtube!!, seriously check it out!!! haha -((http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NXvwXSnAX4 )) - u gota see it guys o myyyyyyy inside the brackets!!'' by britneynaked on 2006-12-22 09:22:53 Nothing of interest, she answered a few questions but was responding incredibly slowly. As Krig put it well: "Here are the 2 important things I got from the ODZAMRAN chat, for those who weren’t there: 1. The Creators were there and acknowledged that although they think itscassie is very cool, she is NOT canon. 2. I asked ODZAMRAN if she was the one sending the REBEL messages and she said she doesn’t send messages." However, the creators said something "itskassie is interesting but not canon, so you know as much as I do." Presumably he meant itscassie, but when we asked him to clarify, itskassie or itscassie, he didn't answer. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 09:24:45 WTF!!!! i think were are under attack!!!! *raises battle axe* TIME FOR BATTLE!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE JOIN MEEEEEE!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 09:25:08 britneynaked...you are making yourself seem sad and pathetic..TO A BUNCH OF LG15 FANS!!! Now THATS lonely... Pink I dont really think much of itscassie...the wig is too stupid! LOL I wonder who is sending the anagrams? I enjoy working them out but they must be very time consuming for whoever is doing them... by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 09:28:02 *joins cloud! ATTTAAAAACCCCKKK!!!!! by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 09:29:16 Britneynaked you were a fool to bring "that" to this community. now... FEEL OUR WRATH!!!!!!! *swings battle axe wildly!!!!* FFFFIIIIIRRRRRSSSSSTTTT!!!!!11!!1!111!! MEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!!! CHARGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 09:32:43 TAKE THAT SAD BRITNEY FAN!!!! MEEEEEEEPFIIIIIIIIIIRRSSSSSST!!!!!!111!!!!MEEEEEP!!! *hurls various heavy metal albums at Britneynaked* by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 09:36:01 CHARGE!!!!!! CONTINUE THE ASSULT!!!!!!!!!! *slices and dices* NEVER BRING "THAT" HERE AGAIN!!!!!!!!! *raises missle launcher* YOU WANT SOME, COME GET SOME!!!!!!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 09:38:49 *waves batle axe wildly* OFF WITH THEIR HEAD!!! by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 09:45:41 You, you guys are fighting the battle of the future. Some day, man will be taking up arms against robots! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 09:51:37 YESSS!!! i think we won the battle!! *cheers* gemmas flatmate *bows* thanks for the assist. you fought with honor and skill. i congratulate you with helping to defend this site! *hands over lg15 metal of honor* but i dont think that was a britney fan. i dont think they exist, they went extinct years ago. by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 09:52:18 britneynaked - dont ever return or you will face the lg15 defence force!!!!! *raises battle axe* but if you do i will be waiting!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 09:56:32 Brittney naked? With stretch marks and hemorrhoids and raw nipples nursing a baby and probably pregnant again...sounds red hot!! by voyboy on 2006-12-22 09:56:38 cloud the pleasure was mine! *salutes* by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-22 09:59:15 lol @ voy by gnome on 2006-12-22 10:01:12 Ready the Catapults!!! FIIRRRRIREE!!!!!!!!! *Launches barrage of Orange Slurpees*, turning the sky orange....or a variation of orange....maybe like Burnt Sienna or something.... YOU GET THE IDEA!!* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 10:05:33 Shocking video. I love getting into the medical stuff that's where I thrive!!!!! I think the fear of bleeding out durring the ceremony is my favorite reason why she would be taking the meds. It would explain the iron pills and the anti seizure meds. But I wonder sometimes if this was a breeding thing to. I mean come on, one of the side effects of the meds are increased sex drive... hummmmmm makes you think, doesn't it? by sunshy9 on 2006-12-22 10:06:15 On a random note, is anyone else excited for the movie "300?" I love historical lore almost as much as I love history, and this is going to be a gorgeously styled historical presentation based on these fantastic myth-like exaggerations. Yar, I can't wait! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 10:11:17 Oy, and I hate when people are like "it's inaccurate!" Duh, this movie isn't that piece of crap "Troy," it's a completely different animal-- it's supposed to have fantastic elements and the storytelling, the story, and the style are its driving forces. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 10:14:19 I don't even know what movie you are talking about Pink. by gnome on 2006-12-22 10:14:25 oops - I should have added - what's it about? hint - have a link? by gnome on 2006-12-22 10:15:35 PinkoLady- ME TOO!!!! I absolutely cherish the Frank Miller graphic novels of this story. Have you seen them? by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 10:15:36 I kinda liked Troy (or was it just b/c Brad Pitt and Sean Bean were in it?) by gnome on 2006-12-22 10:16:22 ohhh the battle is already over? :( *puts away his katana and longsword) bah :| Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 10:17:24 300 looks like a great movie by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 10:17:42 It's written by the same guy who wrote Sin City, and as far as I can tell, the styling is much the same. It's about the Spartans. http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/ by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 10:17:48 Link for Gnome 300themovie.warnerbros.com by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 10:18:07 378 gnome just liked their outfits by voyboy on 2006-12-22 10:18:36 Wooh, great video! Excellent work Daniel ... I am have never been a fan of breaking and enterting, but at least you have gained some sort of knowledge at what is going on. I thoght for sure that Daniel was going to be caught by that car, but he managed to excape and gain exterance to the building. Which to me looked more like storage lockers than a warehouse. by Aidan on 2006-12-22 10:19:46 dont worry jo. you will get your chance to join the lg15 defence force in defending lg15 in battle! katana AND longsword!! DAMN! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 10:20:12 watchingone a little late with the catapult. but thanks!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 10:21:19 WatchingOne, I definitely do! And I was so happy with the way Sin City came out-- I really think 300 is going to be awesome. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 10:22:33 #385 yeah i'm a badass ^^ and i have a ninja degree so... :O hail lg15 defence force! by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 10:22:50 I mean, I definitely have seen them. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 10:23:44 jo a ninja degree?! sweet!! i have a major in kicking ass with sharp objects with a minor in explosives! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 10:25:21 #390 great, we should gather some ppl and attack the order, we may need to blow up some doors so that minor will be usefull ^^ i take care of the guards with my ninja skillz :D by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 10:28:01 lg15 defence force cloud_ax gemmas flatmate jo_16_2 Watchingone no one can defeat us. they can try! you want some, come get some!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 10:28:45 you got me voy! it was the outfits (especially when they were worn by BP). thanks for the links to the 300 guys. it looks awesome i love Classic stuff. by gnome on 2006-12-22 10:33:52 we will defend againt the order, orange slurpees, strange naked britney bots any and all who threaten us and our adiction!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 10:34:28 I'll join the battle! by gnome on 2006-12-22 10:35:27 Hey, isn't rhetoric a weapon any more? I totally helped fight her off with my verbal skillz. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 10:35:29 Check it, yo: gnome (send note) Says: December 22nd, 2006 at 9:14 am um no offense Britney #346 but I don’t think anyone cares and its not appropriate for the young teens that watch this site (gee I sound old!) PinkoLady (send note) Says: December 22nd, 2006 at 9:14 am Who wants to see Britney naked any more? I think your time machine is broken, fool, you want the late 90s. We weakened her for battle by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 10:37:43 i'll joing the Rhetoric Brigade too Pink! As was attributed to Voltaire: "The Pen is Mightier than the Sword" - or in our case the keyboard! by gnome on 2006-12-22 10:41:16 #114 I post for the second time ever here and I'm already getting yelled at. I guess this is why I stopped posting on message boards. Try to be quicker next time. lol *meep* by tshindon on 2006-12-22 10:41:20 sorry pinkolady and gnome. your both in!! thanKs for the help!!! welcome!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 10:41:20 #397 sure you can join our force, but to fight the order you'll need some weapons, not only rhetoric :\ i can teach you how to handle a sword if you want xD by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 10:41:57 #398 the pen can be very powerful :o in that movie, "red eye", the girl stabs the guy in the throat with a pen ^^' by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 10:45:37 I'm just going to ride around the battle on an elephant and lower the enemies morale and debase their tactics with my seering wit. I generally have a dagger and flask in my garter belt, if it helps. (I'm not even completely joking about that, I love garters and sometimes I do hook my flask up to it. No dagger though.) by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 10:50:47 hmmm the dagger is always useful ^^ everyone should have one hidden when they go to battle, and about that elephant...plz dont smash me :3 by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 10:53:14 Epogen Inj Uses This medication is used to treat anemia (low red blood cell count) in people with long-term serious kidney disease (chronic renal failure), people receiving zidovudine to treat HIV, and people receiving chemotherapy drugs for some types of cancer (non-myeloid cancers). It may also be used in anemic patients to reduce the need for blood transfusions before certain planned surgeries that have a high risk of blood loss. Epoetin alfa helps to reverse anemia and improves your energy and activity level, sense of well-being, and overall health. It works by signaling the bone marrow to make more red blood cells. This medication is very similar to the natural substance in your body (erythropoietin) that prevents anemia. by Jewels on 2006-12-22 10:56:12 Last Video: "I'm at an undisclosed location, and it's gonna stay that way." This Video: "Here's exactly where I am. Nanny nanny boo boo you can't catch me!" by Paulo on 2006-12-22 11:01:04 jo your right. everyone should have a dagger ready for close quarters. or ninja throwing stars. by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 11:04:02 by "ninja throwing stars" you mean shuriken right? :P yeah a dagger is always usefull as last resort ^^ by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 11:07:25 I think I'm too old for this. Slurpees blister my tongue and Britney burns my retinas...and what's all this orange slush on the floor? by Moondoogle on 2006-12-22 11:10:27 Yup, dagger is essential. Sword or staff is useful, too. Good old-fashioned infighting. :) And I missed the battle. :( by Dream on 2006-12-22 11:11:12 By the way, ha, my elephant is not in reference to the fact that I'm Indian, but Hannibal's war elephants. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:11:23 sorry moondoggle i guess we left a bit of a mess from the battle. clean up on asile 3!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 11:12:46 sorry dream.:( if you join us i will let you "interrogate" the orange hostage i caught! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 11:15:05 #409 that was the catapult of orange slurpees :x by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 11:17:17 cloud_ax, my very first reaction was: oh yay! On second thoughts, orange hostages and interrogation in one sentence is too close to the real world for my comfort. Can't I feed orange slurpees to Britney instead? by Dream on 2006-12-22 11:21:24 voyboy- the kassie spoof is hilarious! :) by justagirl on 2006-12-22 11:23:28 sure dream sounds like a plan!!! go for it! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 11:24:36 415: Orange hostages in real life? I don't know if you were trying to be racist or trying not to be. I'm JUST kidding, I know you weren't trying to be, and you really didn't say anything offensive. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:25:10 #418 PinkoLady, ever saw pictures of Guantanamo? by Dream on 2006-12-22 11:27:34 Sorry, didn't want to bring real life here. Orange slurpees for Britney!! by Dream on 2006-12-22 11:28:37 But really though, can we grant clementines clemency for their orange crimes? They're so delicious and cute. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:28:54 Ew, I keep making bad jokes/puns/alliterations, I'm grossing myself out. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:29:34 DONT EAT THE ORANGE!!! it might turn you!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 11:30:04 Haha, WHO is orange in real life?? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:30:42 Oh shit, of course I have, I forgot they were wearing orange. Oy, sorry. totally just forgot--- I knew what she was referring to. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:32:12 Jeez, I go to sleep for six hours and y'all bring in the catapults. I'm gonna get coffee and re-blunt my war hammers 'cause...ya never know.. by Moondoogle on 2006-12-22 11:32:38 current lg15 defence force members: cloud_ax gemmas flatmate jo_16_2 Watchingone pinkolady gnome Dream anyone else?? by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 11:32:46 My bad, ignore everything I said. It amused me because I got the wrong idea... anyway, so back to clementines... I really want one... by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:33:06 I'm not sure if this is still being discussed, but I noticed around the 300's that there was talk of pregnancy. I SAID ALL OF THAT LAST NIGHT AND WAS BASICALLY LAUGHED OR ARGUED WITH..AND AT ONE POINT CALLED A PERVERT. I don't know how much I like commenting on these forums. It seems that if you're not in the "clique" than your ideas aren't worth anything. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-22 11:33:49 hmmm if the perv thing was said by me, i was just joking :| by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 11:37:43 That's just not true. People were joking about the pervert thing, and plenty of people before you had mentioned pregnancy. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:38:00 PinkoLady, no harm done, my bad for bringing the real world into this. Back to the clementines and the LG15 defense force it is... Can we use the clementines for the catapult as well? They make nice squishy noises when they hit... bree_is_my_anti_drug, Holly brought up the pregnancy today and I took it up. I haven't been around yesterday and haven't found the time to read through last night's comments... So can you tell me if any specific ideas to the ceremony came up? Cause we were lacking ideas about that earlier today I think. by Dream on 2006-12-22 11:39:13 #429, Pardon me but I disagree. This place is one of the most intelligent, informative and pleasent places to be online. Sure folks have met other folks here and some comments are regarded by the screenname posting them, but it certainly isn't a 'clique.' Seems to me that this place welcomes all...except, of course, britney trolls. I combed the comments here and couldn't find you. What number were you called a pervert? by Moondoogle on 2006-12-22 11:41:14 Pregnancy was mentioned months and months ago by plenty of people, that I know. All I'm saying is when I mention it, I feel like because I'm not part of the FIRST!!111111, meep, orange brigade that my opinions are lesser than everyone elses. I'm sure that's not true, but when I come back to the forum and there are more posts about it and this time people are really discussing it, it just makes me sad. Sorry, I feel like a kid on the playground. This is lonelygirl15...not life. I'm not sure why I'm so offended by it. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-22 11:41:47 dream, the ideas for the cerimony were that bree would lose a lot of blood, and so that's why she would take those medicines. and something about the name bree, and BREEd, and a whole new race, so basically she would be ra....hmmm it's better to not mention it here, sensitive ppl reading probably :s Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 11:44:49 I've only said First once, never said meep, and I occassionally talk about orange. It's really not a neccessity. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:45:00 Dream, I don't think there were any specifics. I had just mentioned that if they were pumping her full of these drugs to increase "sex drive" (which was one of the side effects), there certaintly must be a reason. There was talk a long time ago of her being a relative somehow of Crowley...maybe trying to keep that name alive? I really don't know. It's kind of mind boggling. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-22 11:45:01 Jo I'm not sure that it would even be ra.. Granted, what 16 year old girl is going to freely participate in such a thing, but maybe they had other drugs mixed in to sedate her, or just take her out of reality for a little bit by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-22 11:47:02 Looking back, your theory wasn't that badly recieived, just Jo joking around about it. A couple people agreed with you, and I just thought Gemma was hotter than Bree. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:48:08 I think the Breed and creating a new race thing is really interesting... but I don't think it will be done through pregnancy, only because the emphasis on science makes me think it's a more test-tubey way of potentially mass producing babies. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:50:03 I think Gemma's hotter than Bree too. I miss her. by Maddingo on 2006-12-22 11:51:05 Gemma is kind of hot, really. Maybe I am being a bit too sensitive. Last night I worked a 12 hour shift, and was excited to see a new video. I probably should've just waited to post until today. Well...I think there has been enough drama from me today. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-22 11:51:06 That sounded weird, but what I mean is that it's something more experimental in the way it's taboo, not neccessarily rape. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:51:07 Yep, all of the theories are definitely mind boggling. Moonchild, clones, drugs, fallen angels... I try to read through all the research people are doing, but really, ciphers are a lot easier. by Dream on 2006-12-22 11:52:12 I have to say, I like her even more now that I know she tried to get close to Brother and blow him up for OpAphid. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 11:52:40 #438 yeah but, she basically was doing the cerimony because her parents wanted, she was trying to make them happy, and probably, even them didnt know what the cerimony was really about :s she didnt knew it, that's for sure, and i dont think that any girl would do that that way in free will, so, it would be ra... #439 hmmm...yeah, i like to joke a lot ^^' Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 11:54:15 Speaking of Brother and Taychon, and Op...does anyone have links to their videos? I need to back-track and watch them. I started to watch them when they were first being made..but I haven't in awhile. I feel like I'm missing a huge chunk of LG. by bree_is_my_anti_drug on 2006-12-22 11:54:28 there hasnt been an OpAphid in quite a while. WTF!?!? by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 11:57:57 i must be one of the few ppl that think that bree is hotter than gemma xD you see...in the part of appearance, bree is much more type than gemma so... :p Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 11:58:57 http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=opaphid by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 12:00:14 VIDEO!VIDEO!VIDEO! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 12:09:43 no kidding cloud #448. no tachyon vid either!! did the ARG folks punch out early for the holidays? by gnome on 2006-12-22 12:11:39 VIDEO! VIDEO! VIDEO! VIDEO! FROM TACHYON! by gnome on 2006-12-22 12:12:27 hey cloud, dont desperate, sooner or later there will be a video xD by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 12:12:34 i have to go now. i dont know how many times i can check the site next week with the holidays and all i will try latter tonight!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 12:16:17 #411 Speaking of Hannibal, I have been waiting forever for the movie about Hannibal Barca (the General not the Cannibal) to come out. I first heard about it in 2002 or 2003 there were 2 of them in pre-production - one with Denzel, the other with Vin Diesel. Now the Vin one isn't coming out to 2008 (don't know if Denzel one ever got off the ground) - but its been so long its probably going to suck. by gnome on 2006-12-22 12:16:40 cya cloud o/ by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 12:18:50 I have an idea about the Skateboarding vid - when he tells us his little 'factoid' he emphasizes the word 'classified'. I wonder if that's a hint to Bree's dad to look in the Classified Ads of a Newspaper - maybe the Peralta one? by gnome on 2006-12-22 12:21:35 Dream, I'll go ahead and espouse my theory (which, I must emphasize, is ONLY a guess). "Let me explain... No, there is no time, let me sum up" :) As I've said before, one of the most commonly held beliefs of almost all "secret" societies is that there is some kind of code, if you will, hidden inside the human genome. This code can mean several different things, depending on what sect you follow. Due to which beliefs have been hinted to during the series, I tend to believe Bree is facing one of two distict ceremonies, if you will. One, the attempt to extract the secret code and discover the secret of eternal life, or the ability to communicate with other-dimensional beings. Or two, the attempt to bring back through genetic manipulation the Biblical Nephilim, or super-powered bastard children of the fallen Angels, the Grigori. The Nephilim were wiped out by civil war and the great flood, according to the Judeo-Christian Bible. I tend to believe that there is one faction trying to do one of these two things, and another faction attempting to do the other. Just whom is trying to do what is a big question mark right now. Hope that helped, and I hope you're feeling better. If not, I've got some more Purple cough syrup! *meep*! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 12:21:55 All this talk about sex and all reminds me an awful lot of DaVinci Code-type stuff...the part where as a kid he walks in on his grandpa and other men having sex with a girl for spiritual reasons? Surely Bree's dad put 2 and 2 together and figured this out from the meds she was taking...maybe that's why he ended up being okay with her backing out? by shiggs on 2006-12-22 12:25:24 Thanks WatchingOne, for the explanation and the purple cough syrup. Hope it helps. Want some more crunchy lettuce? by Dream on 2006-12-22 12:26:19 everyone is always talking about the sexual thing, but that is just one of various possible side effects :\ by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 12:30:18 For spilletta42 www.boingboing.net/2006/12/22/giant_squid_caught_b.html by NAXAN on 2006-12-22 12:35:07 #447 bree is my anti-drug: Check out the lgpedia link at the top of this page. You'll find catagories on both OpAphid and Tachyon. They hold all the vids, clues, drop points and detailed analysis of their puzzles and such. Quite informative that... by Moondoogle on 2006-12-22 12:38:20 Thanks Dream! *crunch, crunch* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 12:42:22 I wonder if the Creators are getting any money from product placement. Admittedly, epogen is a weird product to try to sell to this crowd. *lol* So basically what everyone has come up with is that Bree was either going to lose lots of blood during the ceremony, she was going to be in some crazy sex ritual that needed extra iron for endurance, or she was going to be a breeder. I think the blood loss theory makes the most sense. Remember when Gemma told us about the other girl whose family disappeared after the ceremony? Maybe something went horribly wrong and she lost too much blood and died. So now they are taking extra precautions by providing their chosen ones with iron supplements and so forth. by elliemae on 2006-12-22 12:45:49 #465 or maybe they've just regret and so they ran away to escape the order? by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 12:57:44 Hi everyone! Wow, a lot of catching up to do. Here goes: #194 B-as-in-B: I hope everyone paid attention to this post! If not, here: "On this side of the world, Epogen is very well-know as “EPOâ€, a drug used by athletes, notably bicycle riders, impossible to detect : there are regular scandals on the Tour de France about it. This could be used because she was anemic, and the Order, monitoring her health, noticed that and wanted her fit. This could also be used to improve her endurance to increase her learning power and make it easier to go through an intensive ceremony." Important to note, I think! Thanks, B! #201 cloud_ax: itscassie was good for something. Making us TOTALLY HAWT IN THE PANTS FOR EACH OTHER. Yeah. You know you're jealous. #235 eliza: I did the same exact thing. I jumped about three feet into the air and almost passed out. #259 slydergirl: VERY interesting idea. I really like that. Good, good thinking. #270 And Cuyler: My mom was talking about iron pills and pregnancy, and I was wondering why more people weren't talking about that. When I saw ggiholly say something, I just thought, yep, she's here to put us on the right track. I think she might be a hint button of sorts. #272 Paulo: Completely agree, been wanting fullscreen for a while! #289 292 293 294 and blah blah blah PinkoLady/Cuyler: Most intelligent exchange I think I've ever seen here on the vidboard. #318 PinkoLady: Could it be that, similar to Christianity, Bree and her partner would have to be "equally yolked" -- meaning that she and her partner would have to share values and belief systems? #324 Amanda88: GREAT to have you on board! Thank you so much for the useful information! #429 bree_is_my_anti_drug: I know, sometimes you feel ignored, sometimes you wonder if anyone's reading. I used to get that feeling too. But basically, if you talk enough or just plain demand attention, you'll eventually get it. Some people here get more attention because they post A LOT, and they spend all hours of the day and night coming up with theories and doing research. So they have some LG street cred, yo. Just post a lot and keep telling us your thoughts. People here are very nice, and I'm sorry anyone called you a pervert. I respect your thoughts and will keep an eye out for your posts :) by Jackie on 2006-12-22 13:00:10 Here's a thought, they started giving this stuff to Bree so she'd be healthy for the ceremony, right? Well, some of you found in your research that Epogen can be given to anemic patients before surgery to help them get through it. SOOO.....anyone one else thinking what I'm thinking could be possible? by pinkgummiworms on 2006-12-22 13:00:46 To the Creators: I was thinking Bree might have cancer and not know it. I think it was gnome that was talking about this, and I'd basically had the same theories, although I wasn't sure. Seriously, if Bree has cancer, (and I sent you a note in response to yours a while back about my own personal life and how this is an escape for me) I will be very upset and will no longer be watching. And I know some other people will feel it's too heavy and may also leave. Now, considering your audience, I kind of doubt you're going for the whole sexually deviant religious ceremony or the cancer thing, so I don't mean to be harsh or offensive. It's just that I love this show and it's just about all I have, apart from a great boyfriend. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 13:03:15 NOW! Common occult brain surgery time! Woo! I was reading Amanda88's post at #324, and it immediately gave me an idea. Now, this would be a very easy surgery (or so they claim), but I found out about this yeaaaaaaars ago on Marilyn Manson's official site. Apparently, he's a fan of this, which says something, considering that he was a Satanist at that point (not sure what's going on with him now, don't care). http://www.trepan.com/ It's called trepanation, and I was such a weird little kid (13 or 14, maybe), that I became really interested in this and watched the surgeries done and things. A lot of people give THEMSELVES the surgery. Essentially, all it is is when you drill a small hole into your skull, I think where your soft spot used to be as a baby. Then, they believe your "third eye" is opened up, as your skull was open as a child, and closed as you got older -- closing a spiritual window of awareness or something. And when you open it again, all your childhood awareness is able to come back to you, because I guess your mind's just... more open. Ha. Literally. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 13:05:30 #468 yeah she could be anemic...but it can be something else by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 13:10:20 good job daniel bond...does this make bree your bond girl??? by lively551 on 2006-12-22 13:14:09 "OH, if we try it and it’s wrong, say “I’m watching†or ask for Michael Hunt! " Or, quote Donnie Darko and say "28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, 12 seconds. That is when the world will end." and hang up...and don't forget to set yuour phone to block your number...don't want any call backs! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 13:16:22 #459 i had that same feeling. i agree with whoever said that the whole virgin/sexual sacrafice thing is a good theory, but because of the audience of this show i'm really starting to think it's probably more likely she was to give blood or be part of an experiment. by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 13:17:31 #470 oh yeah i read something about the third eye and opening a hole in the back of the head, but it was a lot of years ago :\ by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 13:17:57 first 500, haha =p by ohsosarah on 2006-12-22 13:22:38 This being my first time posting I apparently missed the whole citing the # edicate thing...well sorry...I'll do that in the future... Anywho: I'll admit I just started watching, but I sat my butt down and watched every single episode ao I feel fairly up-to-date about the series and here is my two cents worth about the theories I hear buzzing around: See, from a purely marketing standpoint, making Bree anemic or giving her cancer would be a horrible idea, as it takes away the diabolical nature of the order. Aside from the fans like Jackie who dilike idea of giving her cancer simply from a moral stanpoint, the series would lose a significant fanbase if it made the decision to make her ill. For that reason, I feel it is ludacris to make the assumption that she is sick in some way. However, being pyschotic is a different story. Haha...pun...anyways...if Bree were pyschotic, that would make for an excellent ending...have her wake up and just realize it was a hallucination. My theory is similar to the whole blood-letting thing. I think they were beefing up her red-blood cell count so they could drain a significant amount of her blood without causing much harm. I apologize for my inexperience, but I have seen you discussing "iron pills," but I remember her taking diet pills, maybe I just missed the discussion where it was determined that they were indeed iron pills, but I thought it was worth noting. Well, thats what I have to say for now...cheerio! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 13:27:01 hmmm why would they be giving her that? cults are crazy byt the way why is daniel always the one breaking and entering hes probly gonna get arrested. by angelik_pistol on 2006-12-22 13:32:53 Theres that helicopter scene again....... Also Bravo Great episode except he only came away with a box of stuff A box of stuff he didnt know what was But very well made in a suspenseful blurry type of way. by Allamericangirl on 2006-12-22 13:34:20 best by ramble_tamble on 2006-12-22 13:38:04 video by ramble_tamble on 2006-12-22 13:38:23 ever by ramble_tamble on 2006-12-22 13:39:18 Did anyone ever find out if the numbers meant anything or if they are just a way of keeping us occupied so we don't keep asking for new videos. IT DIDN'T WORK! NEW VIDEO! NEW VIDEO! NEW VIDEO! by Joe on 2006-12-22 13:39:43 this is going to get real squrimy when daniel shows up at jonas's and bree and jonas are all making eyes at each other. by ramble_tamble on 2006-12-22 13:41:22 allamericangirl, I noticed the helicopter, too. I guess it's significant that helicopters keep showing up and the order is never far behind. by elliemae on 2006-12-22 13:50:35 #477 lonelyelendi - I remember her saying diet pills rather than iron pills too...I just figured I had forgotten where she said "iron" rather than "diet"... Could someone help remind me when iron pills were mentioned?!? Thanks!! by ginger4298 on 2006-12-22 13:54:31 I bet Daniel has never paid for any of the magazines we've seen him read. He has no problem breaking and entering. What's wrong with stealing a magazine or two? He probably lies on his taxes. You think the cult is evil, wait till the IRS is after you. by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:00:14 Iron pills were mentioned in the "In the Park' Video. by Moondoogle on 2006-12-22 14:02:16 ginger4298, Iron pills were mentioned in the video "in the park" When Bree is getting into Daniel's car she takes a pill. Daniel askes her what it is, Bree said it was an iron pill. I'm pretty sure she said iron and not diet. by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:03:48 aww ... danielbeast is breaking the law for bree! he has to love her! by loveyamuchqt on 2006-12-22 14:06:31 I'M SO BORED!!! Stuck at work for another hour. All alone. Brain mush. Need to think of something funny. ...... I got nothing. by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:09:13 My goal is to be 500th by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:12:39 Hey joe, I have a brain teaser for you! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 14:13:58 WatchingOne, I love brain teasers. Bring it on. by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:16:07 It's a VERY signicant number in the series so far... 3 years, 6 months What does it mean???!!! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 14:16:15 You see , I asked this lawyer freind of mine.... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 14:17:21 Here's mine: Why is a manhole cover round? by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:17:26 #455 Gnome: Whhaaat, Denzel as Hannibal? Uhh, I'm not racist by any means, but the coloring there is clearly all wrong there. As much as I'm not a fan of Vin's acting, he'd definitely look better for the part. Oh snap, I really hope they have tons of war elephants in the movie. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 14:18:21 3 years, 6 months. I thought this thing started in June? by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:19:38 HEHEEE, Joe, you're not getting me with that one. EVEN though I'm not applying for a job at Microsoft, I'll answer it anyway.... Reasons for the shape include: * A round manhole cover cannot fall through its circular opening, whereas a square manhole cover may fall in if it were inserted diagonally in the aperture (A Reuleaux triangle or other curve of constant width would also serve this purpose, but round covers are much easier to manufacture.) * Round tubes are the strongest and most material-efficient shape against the compression of the earth around them, and so it is natural that the cover of a round tube assume a circular shape. * Cylindrical holes are easier to dig. * The bearing surfaces of manhole frames and covers are machined to assure flatness and prevent them from becoming dislodged by traffic. * Round castings are much easier to machine using horizontal boring mills. * Circular covers do not need to be rotated to align them when covering a circular manhole. * Human beings have a roughly circular cross-section. * A round manhole cover can be more easily moved by being rolled. * If a automobile rolls over a dislodged manhole of another shape, the sharp corners could puncture the automobile's tire, whereas a circle doesn't have corners. * Tradition * Aesthetics by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 14:21:28 Unless you're talking about Danielbeasts alleged criminal activities and 3 yrs, 6 mth is the minimum or maximum penalty. by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:21:32 WatchingOne, A manhole cover is round because the manhole is round. That is the answer I gave on my job interview. The interviewer said it was the most original answer she ever heard. I got the job. Eight years later I wish I gave a dumber answer. by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:25:16 I asked my freind..so what could one expect if one were inclined in the State of California, to videotape oneself committing the following crimes: *stalking (misdeamener) *Breaking and entering (two counts, misdeamener) *Breaking and entering a business (felony) *Stealing materials or property from a business (felony) And the answer was: 3 Years , 6 Months or 42 months! 42 is a GREAT number, isn't it? by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 14:26:15 #502- HA, I like it, I would have given you the job. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 14:28:41 I know, Joe. That question about the manhole cover was on the Microsoft job application forms a few years back. The question itself is a very interesting psychological reaction process. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 14:28:45 The answer! Yes! How far were we in planning our holiday in Norway? Did we say we wanted to search all fjords? by Dream on 2006-12-22 14:30:07 42 is clearly the meaning of life. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 14:30:24 And also the universe, and everything. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 14:31:10 So, Joe, psychologically speaking, you would have given the most practical answer, so you are a very practical person. And me-I overanalyze and know WAAAAAAYYYYY to much about useless junk! :) *meep*! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 14:32:41 Joe 489 I went back and Bree doesn't say what shes taking daniel says its an iron pill by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-22 14:32:54 So I guess we're done with all this spculation then? =P by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 14:34:09 Dream -OHHH, I've found this very interesting site when planning our trip... you're gonna laugh... http://www.fjords.com/ by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 14:35:34 One thing about the product placement idea: This makes me want to do the opposite of use Epogen, ever. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 14:38:21 WatchingOne, can we travel there? Like - now? I've been to the Sognefjord already, no signature there. But there are plenty more beautiful fjords to see... to search, I mean. lol. by Dream on 2006-12-22 14:41:30 oh man i wish that some orange fiends or something like that would appear so the lg15 defence force would go into action :| i'm bored :| Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 14:45:10 Me practicle. Hmmm, sure why not. So I was right 3yrs 6 months for Daniel's illigal activities. Way to go me. Next question. How many lonelycrack15 addicts does it take to change a lightbulb? Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First, This stupid computer guy (me) doesn't allow internet videos on the company network. When I get home I'll look at it. I'm pretty sure it was that video or one close to it. I'll find it and let you know. by Joe on 2006-12-22 14:48:55 back for a sec. jo are you bored? i just went to the store... *flings 10 pounds of oranges in the air* GET THEM!!!!! HAVE FUN!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 14:54:15 Hey I'm back from sleep and a (shortened for the holidays!!! sweeeet) day of work. Glad to see that... nearly every single person from last night is still here. At least most of you got sleep, but dude, pinko (or I guess dudette, i'm from cali, everyone's dude) am I wrong or have you been here since the absolute beginning of this comment page right up until now? OK, so after typing that, and without erasing it, I did a tiny bit of checking and found a gap between 4:15 or so (page time) and 9:10. So alright, you got slightly less than five hours sleep... but then you've been here straight through until present time. That is some serious dedication and props for that but... dang... I can't imagine. Also, Jackie, thanks for the props on the convo with pinko, and I hope pinko picked up on them too, because I definitely enjoyed that conversation. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 14:54:22 Yay, Jackie thinks I'm awesome! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:00:04 And Cuyler: You're wrong, I haven't. I slept, went out to lunch with a friend, saw a movie with the boyfriend and bought some new christmas ornaments since this video was put up. =P by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:01:35 Granted, I only slept for four hours... but as I said, I don't sleep much anyway. Despite the amount of time I spend here, I still definitely have a life, I type fast, and multi-task. Like, I'm drinking a beer right now. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:03:31 Ok, beyond the welcoming myself back comment, here's what I've been thinking after reading the several hundred comments since I last was online: I think we're thinking too hard on this epogen thing. For one thing, I'm pretty confident in thinking that ggiHolly's singular and un-followed up on comment about epogen being used for pregnant women was intended to be, as I mentioned way back in the late 200s and as jackie aptly referred to it, a "hint button of sorts" for all of us crazy theorists out here. For another thing, I think that we should remember, when thinking about the possible goals of the ceremony, that the ceremony in which Bree was to participate was neither the first nor last ceremony to take place for the order. I'm not suggesting quoting me on this, but I think it was a yearly thing? I know gemma talked about girls who had done it before, and I'm pretty sure Bree talked about her doing it "for this year's ceremony" or something to that effect. The reason i feel this is important is because I think that all the master race breeding theories or the fallen angel mother theories are likely a little more grandiose than whatever the truth is. If that were the case, the order would either have succeeded in their nefarious plot like... hundreds of years ago... or at least a FEW years ago, or else they would have realized it was all a bunch of bunk since it wasn't working. I think it's more likely something simpler and more important from a religious standpoint, rather than a end-game-take-over-the-world standpoint. Sacrifice or blood-letting are excellent examples of that, and if we are to subscribe (as I, in my very unqualified opinion think we ought to) to the pregnancy theory, perhaps simply a ritual insemination of a worthy host. Who knows why or to what end, maybe more research or just waiting around for more information will help us understand that. Basically I think that a lot of the theories are thinking a little too global/apocalyptic and not enough symbolic/spiritual/annual. Beyond that, congrats on the successful repelling of the evil britneyisnaked. A toast to our good bretheren (and.... sisteren?) for their valiant duty. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 15:05:38 My apologies pinko. I wasn't implying that you didn't have a life... OK nevermind I guess I was. Glad I'm wrong, though. You seem too cool to waste your every hour on this, no matter how enjoyable and enlightening it may be. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 15:07:26 And yes, though my family is Hindu (and not very religious-- though Hindu, by nature doesn't really conflict with this) we celebrate secular Christmas festivities! I mean, Christmas was banned in several colonies in the 16 and 1700s, accused of being a secular holiday. My boyfriend and I also celebrate Festivus with a few friends. =P by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:09:32 523: haha, but there's no doubt that I am completely addicted. Not being much of a sleeper just gives me more hours in the day to do this and have a life. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:11:27 im sure everyone knows everything about this med already lol.....but oh well This medication is used to treat anemia (low red blood cell count) in people with long-term serious kidney disease (chronic renal failure), people receiving zidovudine to treat HIV, and people receiving chemotherapy drugs for some types of cancer (non-myeloid cancers). It may also be used in anemic patients to reduce the need for blood transfusions before certain planned surgeries that have a high risk of blood loss. Epoetin alfa helps to reverse anemia and improves your energy and activity level, sense of well-being, and overall health. It works by signaling the bone marrow to make more red blood cells. This medication is very similar to the natural substance in your body (erythropoietin) that prevents anemia......put that in your pipe an smoke it.... what the heck was that sound?!?...i like where he said OMG in a freaked out kinda way haha an what a creepy place that is...it kinda reminds me of Resident Evil!!!lol...anyways good work D!... :) *hugs* by Kyndra2007 on 2006-12-22 15:11:33 we need a new video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 15:15:06 Dream-At least you're on the right continent for going right this second!! I live on the east coast of the US!!! And yeah, believe me, I Would LOVE to go right now!! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:18:30 In typical fashion, they don't show us what's inside the box. :/ by FireInside on 2006-12-22 15:20:23 lol, the new itscassie vid is quite funny. I'm already curious what voyboy's version will look like. by Dream on 2006-12-22 15:22:00 HAHAHAhahahahahaHAHAHaHaha, oh my god. Itscassie's new video is SO BAD. I'm loving it. It doesn't even bother me any more. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:25:33 Pinko in #524: "My boyfriend and I also celebrate Festivus with a few friends. =P " I would like to quote Frank Constanza: "Festivus for the rest of us"... Ah...good ol' seinfeld... Anywho... Wait, pinko...do you actually celebrate it? Like with the aluminium (I spell it like it should be spelled =P) pole and the feats of strength? hehehe by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:26:35 #517 *draws his katana and long sword and jumps slycing all the oranges* ohhh thank you ^-^ but the fiends would last longer :P by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 15:27:07 So she's clearly not Gemma, though that was confirmed by her not canon. She is much, much, much less attractive. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:27:42 Besides Hitler, Stalin, and all the other evil guys from history, there is one historical figure I have the utmost disdain for: Oliver Cromwell. Why? He banned Christmas. (and he was also a hypocrite who overthrew and ordered the beheadeding of King Charles I for many reasons included not supporting the idea of primogeniture, and what did he do when he came to power after overthrowing the monarchy? HE TRIED TO INSTALL HIS SON AS HIS HEIR). Oliver Cromwell: History's Biggest Hypocrite and the Killer of Christmas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell by gnome on 2006-12-22 15:28:17 #532: We do! My friend has a festivus pole, we get drunk and air greivances compete with feats of strength. It's fun as hell. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:29:08 Gnome: I'm not going to lie, I really can't stand Puritans in general. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:30:31 Next to Hitler and Stalin should also be Columbus and his Conquistadors, people really need to stop forgetting that. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:32:52 Whoops - my rant #535 was to add to PinkoLady's comment #524 about Christmas being banned, if you guys are wondering where that came from. by gnome on 2006-12-22 15:33:18 #534 PinkoLady- I want to add my input to your comments.... ahem.... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:36:18 If anyone is offended by either of those two things I said, don't expect me to respond, because they apply to very specific groups of people with very specific views who did very specific things. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:36:24 ...... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:36:45 much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:37:54 much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:38:29 *panting for air* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:39:00 Hahahaha by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:39:07 ROFLMAO! While I agree with Pinko (and might I add, love her almost as much as I love my girlfriend for that whole festivus thing!), I think we are getting off topic here...back to conspiracy-theoring! (Theoring being my verb meaning "to make theories"...I am a wee bit hyper=P) by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:39:12 somebody once compared the Judeo-Christian God to Hitler based on all the people god smited in the bible (mostly the OT). I can't find it anymore but here is one on God Vs. Satan. http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/who-has-killed-more-satan-or-god.html by gnome on 2006-12-22 15:39:53 much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, less attractive. (whew!) by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:43:00 HAHAHAHAHA WOW....2 million to 10....maybe we should all abandon judeo-christian beliefs and go to satanism... by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:43:13 *meep*! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:44:00 10 pounds of oranges! *hides under desk* Make it stop, make it stop! by Joe on 2006-12-22 15:44:22 My point exactly...well put watching! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:44:39 Anywho...back on topic? by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:45:13 WatchingOne, sometimes even being on the right continent doesn't help. *mumbles the rest of the lettuce while moping* I want a new vid right about now. by Dream on 2006-12-22 15:45:30 Oh, and creepy. :) by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:45:37 Someone else post something...I am sooooooo bored! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:45:43 WOOT! It worked! Post again! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:46:25 I actually was in Schweinfurt Germany for 2 years once, Dream. I didn't travel to see any fjords, either *moping* I ran into an ice-covered ditch with my car, though. I didn't see Slartiblartfasts' signature there, though.... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:48:27 #552 OMG O_O *draws katana, longsword, and grabs the rocket launcher with the teeth* DIE ORANGESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS >. by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 15:49:38 WE WANT A VID-E-O... NOT A .... A......uhhhh..... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:49:57 mmkay just watched video and read all the comments...thats my least and most favorite part...takes forever but soooo informative... first things first... FFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!11! ok onto more relevant subjects sooo theres definately significance with those numbers i think and there were so many boxes in the sorage unit...who are those for anyways? Surely they cant ALL be for bree... gnome #333 - haha so i guess LG15 is your anti-drug? :-P pinko #507 - so you mean all this time, while we've been striving for a spot at first, we shouldve been striving for a spot at 42nd??? you making me question my life decisions here... ok so heres a bit of a long stretch of a theory...theres a lot of loose ends i know so dont go attacking me for it: maybe the order is some extremist christian group thats trying to use bree as the new virgin mary. Its a long shot but it fits in with the pregnancy idea and the whole "purity" issue. Maybe theyre trying to bring about jesus once again... by sydney on 2006-12-22 15:50:23 ...I can't think of a good rhyme. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:50:35 Did anyone ever notice there's no rhyme for ORANGE? by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:52:48 I am so bored, I watched the itscassie video. If the girl only had a decent wig, people would probably take her more seriously. by gnome on 2006-12-22 15:53:19 Comments just become a matrix of tangents when the comments get this high (though this is nothing compared to 1500...). The higher the comment number, the greater the collective mental deterioration... by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:54:04 theres also none for silver watching one...maybe we should be fearing metallics as well??? i mean if the order is a bunch of alchemists and rhyming is an issue with silver...it could be...and maybe thats while they dont have any christmas decorations up...tinsel = evil???? by sydney on 2006-12-22 15:55:05 hey WatchingOne... where on the east coast? Just to throw this out there... if I recall correctly the Creators didn't say itscassie isn't canon, they said itskassie isn't canon. by Perky on 2006-12-22 15:55:23 PinkoLady -What*meep* ever do you *meep* mean? by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:55:34 Don't you think her real hair looked like a bad wig too? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:55:38 #564 That's what I always thought until I read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_%28word%29#Rhyme Isn't there a band called "Rhymes with Orange?" by gnome on 2006-12-22 15:55:53 I guess I have a lot to learn, eh Pinko? by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:56:12 Perky - Atlanta....we have a GREAT...ummmm.... airport. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:57:10 sooooooooo during my bored time *still occurring* i watched the itscassie video and.... "someone needs her shot"? yeah, itscassie does :S by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 15:57:48 Gnome....have you actually looked up those words? I am pretty sure they don't exsist...as for the way in which poets get around the rhyming of the word orange...well thats poetry! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 15:58:13 Perky: I know I know, but I think he meant to tupe itscassie, I really really do; why would he say itskassie isn't canon when we clearly already know that! Besides, her new video confirms it for me enough, the amount of money they're spending, they're not making crap videos like that. The quality of itscassie videos was at least half decent till now. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 15:58:20 gnome- yeah but those other words don't count because NO ONE EVER USES THEM!!! heheheeee by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 15:59:52 i think we're safe, i doubt rhyming is an issue....since purple cannot be rhymed with as well but just for the hell of it...hers other words that dont rhyme month angst scalp by sydney on 2006-12-22 16:00:23 lonelyelendi - yes, Blorenge is in Wales. It can be found on Google Earth. by gnome on 2006-12-22 16:00:51 OMG!! Gnome, I just noticed your profile picture is Azrael the Cat!! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:01:32 #559 WO, lol. Schweinfurt, huh? Ever visited the Bavarians? The illuminated and not so illuminati ones? #562 sydney, I kind of like the new Virgin Mary theory but I think that water is a bit too deep for the Creators to want to go in there. #568 Hi Perky! by Dream on 2006-12-22 16:01:43 572: Haha, maybe only that by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:02:02 562 sydney: That occured to me, but I just don't think so. There's essentially nothing christian about anything the order has anything to do with, as far as beliefs go. and on a similar point... 548 gnome: I doubt that you planned on starting a debate here, and that's fine, but I just always feel the need to comment on such things... maybe it's a character flaw... anyway. Satan doesn't have the power to directly take people's lives. He does, however, drive people to do evil things, among which... kill. I didnt' read the blog you linked (maybe I should) but we can pretty handily say that any death in any unrighteous war (probably 90-95% of them... although some of them we really never know) and any murder ever committed could conceivably be attributed to Satan's tally. I assume the blog mentioned the Flood as God's biggest mass smite, (and I won't get into any kind of debate about that, though I could, and will if we get bored enough and anyone wants to join me in it) but I'd be willing to bet that Satan's tally exceeds God's when all is said and done. And the people that God killed were all evil. Satan is responsible for the deaths of enormous numbers of righteous people. by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 16:02:33 HAHAHAHA! I just got the whole phone number thing...wow...being a newbie sucks...had to have that explained to me by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 16:03:04 what about a purple nurple? jk by gnome on 2006-12-22 16:03:05 i'm an agnostic - i was just kidding. I think the Bible is a very interesting story. by gnome on 2006-12-22 16:04:09 Cuyler, Satan can do whatever he wants to - the Flying Spaghetti Monster told me so. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:04:40 If you don't believe me- check it out for yourself... http://www.venganza.org/ by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:05:55 #562 That's definitely a really interesting theory, and it seems to fit, but then where does Crowley tie in? I feel like real, hardcore religion and the innovative, experimental genetic science aspect just aren't meshing... arr, I really don't know. And is no one else a hitchiker's guide fan? Heh. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:07:27 A Hooray for the Pastafarians! by Dream on 2006-12-22 16:09:28 I wasn't jumping on you gnome, just creating discussion. I hope I never make anyone think I'm getting defensive or anything if i ever talk about christianity or my faith again on this site, by the way. I do have strong beleifs, but have heard so much about everything regarding faith, including about how stupid my own faith is, and even said a pretty great deal of the same (long story), that I'm pretty hard to offend. I just talk about it because it's something I have relative knowledge about, not because I feel the need to defend my faith. Just so y'all know! by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 16:10:01 I think I realized what the order is...We're the order....we're a freaking cult! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 16:10:15 anyway, I'm out for the afternoon/evening (Pacific time, at least). I'll probably be back around late evening. Hoping for a new vid by then. Here's hoping I see you all on the next board! by Cuyler on 2006-12-22 16:11:02 Cause it seems the Flying Spaghetti Monster ended the God vs. Satan discussion. Which, seeing that it is past midnight here and way too late for heavy stuff like that, is definitely a good thing. by Dream on 2006-12-22 16:11:04 #589, how could one not be...Pinko...Don't Panic. by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 16:11:22 lonelyelendi -No we're NOT!!! *meep* (damn.) by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:12:13 573 - I've been to ATL a few times... was staying at a hotel at eye level with the airport when a hurricane came in last year (freaking out over the tornado warnings getting closer and closer)... 576 - "why would he say itskassie isn’t canon when we clearly already know that!" To screw with us! Everything they do is clues, thinly veiled hints and suggestions... of course itskassie isn't canon (but absolutely necessary, voyboy, so don't go getting ideas about stopping)... but considering where the K and C are on the keyboard, I'd bet money Miles didn't make a mistake in his typing. 581 - Hi Dream! Are you feeling better? by Perky on 2006-12-22 16:12:30 Dream -yeah , the good old FSM is great for that! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:13:37 hi ppl i thought id pop in for some lonelycrack to help me survive the day by rubymoon13 on 2006-12-22 16:14:47 Pastafarian's are pretty sweet anyway. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:15:24 592 - LOL! Even if we're in denial over it... our friends and family on the outside sure might think we are (a cult). by Perky on 2006-12-22 16:17:02 597. Perky-- Yeah, I know, I really do believe he would say that she to NOT say anything about itscassie. But I'm in seriously denial about itscassie, I refuse to believe even the more rationally presented evidence to her relevence... you should all know that! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:17:15 Er, 602--- Okay, I don't know what's wrong with me, but that barely made sense. I meant "I really do believe he would say that just to NOT say anything about itscassie." by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:19:52 LG15 defense force... LG15 cult... LG15 support group... We should build a nation! Not sure if support groups are really essential to nations usually but I think in this case they are. by Dream on 2006-12-22 16:21:30 601 - I know I sure as hell am taking injections, meeting with a strange lady who drives an Acura RSX, and am taking strange pills...oh wait...thats because I'm crazy! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 16:22:25 Haha, 604, I wonder what degree of sovereignty (external sovereignty, anyway) we'd manage to attain. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:24:36 #588 Watching One. Thank you for that link to enlightenment. Next time I am faced with a perplexing dilemmas, I'll just think to myself WWFSMD? by gnome on 2006-12-22 16:25:23 602/3 I agree there... it was to be her chat, and telling the hordes waiting for her that she wasn't canon would be like unleashing a "running of the bulls" on her without warning... in that verbal slaughter kind of way. And I'm there with you, I don't love the itscassie videos, except they inspire itskassie.. But in the entire time I have been following this, I have yet to come to one single definite conclusion about ANYTHING... so until the Creators say specifically "itscassie isn't canon", I can't assume they said one thing and meant the other... by Perky on 2006-12-22 16:26:19 if bree is our queen who is our king? by rubymoon13 on 2006-12-22 16:26:43 Daniel? Jonas is the usurper. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:28:35 #609 - Daniel's nose. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:29:55 Waaait, who says our nation-state is a monarchy!? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:29:55 I just watched the new Nikki Bower. If she's not canon, she's at least got a good source. How does she always find the exact place where they film? by elliemae on 2006-12-22 16:31:25 I think we should be a planet. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:31:34 #609 Miles, definitely. Daniel and Jonas are just knights who do what their king says... by Dream on 2006-12-22 16:31:46 #609 it wasnt really necessary a king but...i would apply for the "job" ^^' xD by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 16:32:13 We'll get Slartiblartfast to design it. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:32:25 WO, a planet, huh? If you're thinking big why not make it a universe? I mean, it's called the Breeniverse already! by Dream on 2006-12-22 16:32:50 It's hard to make fjords for an entire universe.... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:34:20 #109-Gypsy-That is eerie, but also possibly very good thinking! #126-Pinkolady--That is NOT necessarily true. I am autistic (Asperger's type) and I have several female friends with AS. Adult women present autistic symptoms very differently than males. We're warmer, more imaginative, more social, etc. by Marbella on 2006-12-22 16:34:56 not hard, just time-consuming. lol. by Dream on 2006-12-22 16:35:16 Hi Marbella, how's your marble loss? by elliemae on 2006-12-22 16:36:13 Ok, I'm thinking in terms of bed much more right now than in terms of fjords. Good night everyone! And a *meepmeep* to Marbella for marble recovery! by Dream on 2006-12-22 16:38:44 I'll be the king! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 16:39:38 Güten Nacht, Dream! *MEEP*! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:40:05 Sydney, Silver can not be evil. My car is silver, I like my car, no more talk about silver being evil. by Joe on 2006-12-22 16:40:05 #518 Cuyler: No problem. Gotta give credit where it's due. And #519 PinkoLady: I'm really just buttering you up so you'll sleep with me. And by the way, honey, in response to #541: I love it when you're specific. #592 lonelylendi: Wouldn't it be completely lame if that were the end of the story? "tee hee, you're The Order. You love Bree and Daniel and follow them around, watching their lives unfold. hee hee hee!" -- That'd be worse than Daniel's "touching" you-know-who-we-trust-dotdotdotdotdotdotdot-dramaticpause---YOU!-speech. #604 Dream: Don't forget my earlier mention of the Church of LG in #702 on the Skater vid! by Jackie on 2006-12-22 16:40:40 I agree with Joe. My car is gray, which is close to silver. by elliemae on 2006-12-22 16:41:15 Silver is good, it kills werewolves. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:41:27 Jackie...I think a great ending would be to have bree, or better yet someone else all together wake up and realize this was all a dream...kind of....crap what was that filmmakers name...CRAP! by lonelyelendi on 2006-12-22 16:44:16 #620 Marbella- Oh, I definitely should have gone into that comment further to clarify, but especially as an Asperger's type, playing with stuffed animals would seem to me as pretty uncharacteristic of high-functioning autism. My mom is a neurological developmental physician and I've been surrounded by the field since I was little, so I definitely wouldn't imply that it would be glaringly obvious if she was autistic in terms of her acting a way typical of say, autistic male children. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:47:00 I am still curious why the order didn't nab Bree when they had them in the hotel room. It would have been easy. Instead they just watch and follow her. It seems they have missed some easy chances to catch Daniel too. Also, did she actually complete THE ceremony or "a" ceremony. If the injections were so they could get some blood from her without hurting her than perhaps the injections continued for the purpose of the next ceremony? If thats the case then when was the next ceremony planned to be? Would they be desperate to get her back by then? by noreaster on 2006-12-22 16:47:14 of course silver it's good, silver kills werewolves, werewolves are enemies of the vampires :> by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 16:47:36 I think you're awesome too PinkoLady! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 16:48:46 #632 noreaster: That confuses me too. They've known where they are several times, and hell, they were even watching Daniel in his bedroom. They knew he was home. I don't get it either. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 16:51:38 coming soon to PS3, XBOX 360 & PC - tom clancy's splinter cell: danielbeast unleashed by Lureman on 2006-12-22 16:52:27 Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First, In the video "In the Park" towards the end. Daniel is sitting in the car. Bree puts her bag on the passenger seat to take something out. Daniel asks Bree what she is taking, the video is edited a bit and we you hear Daniel ask "Iron pills?" Bree responds "Yes (smiles), can we go now" So Bree could have said something else that Daniel misunderstood for iron pills (like diet pills, or orange pills) and Bree didn't want to discuss it and just said yes. Or we could assume Daniel heard her correctly. Your choice. by Joe on 2006-12-22 16:53:53 Not playing with stuffed animals, I mean delusionally playing with stuffed animals inappropriate to age. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:54:08 #634: Hooray, I'll sleep with everyone! oh, and in addition: #620: I'm definitely not pretending to know as much as you or my mom on the subject, that was just my initial reaction to whatever comment someone made about being "autistic or schizophrenic." by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 16:57:16 I strongly believe Nikki Bower is canon. I wonder if that is her real name? Maybe someone should look for evidence that Nikki may be an actress. by gnome on 2006-12-22 16:57:36 SILVER ROCKS! Elliemae, Gray is close enough. Sydney, Don't take this personally. It's just that you have the power to turn us against something with very little effort (ex. Orange Slurpee). I can't take the chance that you do it again with silver. I don't want to buy a new car. by Joe on 2006-12-22 17:01:25 Boy I have a bunch of questions. If the real ceremony was missed, I wonder what that means for the order? Is Tachyon part of a much larger group of anti-order types? There has to be an anti-order (maybe we're it!). Jonas cannot be hard to find, I wonder if the order already knows where the place is. Was the phone message with Bree's Dad real? If so this totally changes everything. Oh and gnome I would be shocked if Nikki Bower wasn't canon. If she isn't she must have someone close to the creators helping her. by noreaster on 2006-12-22 17:06:19 I think everyone's focusing on the wrong aspect of the whole Epogen plotline. Look it up (like some smart people did). It's a performance enhancer......the sort of thing athletes get disqualified for. by faraday1642 on 2006-12-22 17:08:28 Does anyone else have a problem with the Nikki Bower videos. The sound never matches the video. It's really, really annoying. FIX IT! by Joe on 2006-12-22 17:09:16 #642 noreaster: I wonder... maybe we could create our own "anti-Order" with a name and everything. Because we're part of the Breeniverse. We persuade them to do stuff and give help and advice and do research that helps them find stuff out. We're all working together, us, Bree and Daniel. SO. I wonder if we gave ourselves a name and made ourselves an organization, if that could affect the storyline/plot. Like I wonder if The Order/OpAphid would get pissed at US and if we could get them to consider us a real threat, and we could get even more involved with Bree and Daniel and the story that way. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 17:13:51 faraday1642 -yeah, us smart peoples also found out Epogen is one of the fffiiiiiirrrrrrrssssssssttttt11!!!!! rDNA cultivated drugs. Which actually ties into the storyline if THEY are messing with Bree's DNA... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 17:13:57 Maybe Bree was trainging for the Olympics. You always here the phrase Olympic ceremony for the opening show for the start of the olympics. So they doped her up on performance enhancing drugs. I wonder what event she was going to be in. Figure skating Synchronized swimming Curling by Joe on 2006-12-22 17:14:43 Epogen increases the red blood cell count, red blood cells carry oxygen to the muscles, brain and other organs, therefore it's a performance enhancer because athletes need a lot of oxygen supplied to their muscles. It is used to treat anemia because endemics have a low red blood cell count. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 17:15:19 I meant it is used to treat anemia because anemics have a low red blood cell count. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 17:17:16 643: Lots of people looked it up, faraday, and all of those people are smart. But true, it seems it is used as a performance enhancer. If someone already mentioned it, I didn't notice. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 17:17:44 Hey Joe, Maybe she's going to be in the plunge for distance event. by elliemae on 2006-12-22 17:18:22 Joe - thanks for the verification of the NB thing -I thought it was just me! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 17:19:05 yeah, some of us mentioned that Bree could need a performance enhancer for the sex ritual, if that's what it is. by elliemae on 2006-12-22 17:20:46 I definitely think DNA manipulation is more the right direction. Or just massive bleeding of some sort. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 17:21:08 And as far as athletes getting disqualified for using Epogen, a little FURTHER research would have revealed that it is virtually undetectable.... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 17:21:09 Yeah, we is kinda smart here... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 17:22:09 Snowboarding is an Olympic event now maybe they are going to make skateboarding an Olympic event as well, so she is training as a skateboarder Jonas is her coach. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 17:22:55 from lglsi.com: Espogen: "Indication Anemia associated with - Chronic renal failure in patients on haemodialysis, peritoneal dialysis and non dialyzed adult patients. - Chemotherapy for solid tumors, symptomatic anaemia, malignant lymphoma, multiple myeloma requiring blood transfusion. In adults (with high risk of transfusion complications) prior to major elective orthopaedic surgery to increase the yield of autologous blood." fishy, huh? by megbee617 on 2006-12-22 17:24:10 657: OWNED. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 17:24:38 #652 Pinko: #194 B-as-in-B: On this side of the world, Epogen is very well-know as “EPOâ€, a drug used by athletes, notably bicycle riders, impossible to detect : there are regular scandals on the Tour de France about it. This could be used because she was anemic, and the Order, monitoring her health, noticed that and wanted her fit. This could also be used to improve her endurance to increase her learning power and make it easier to go through an intensive ceremony. --- pwned by Jackie on 2006-12-22 17:30:35 Wow, I think itscassie's been watching The Ring a bit too much. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 17:32:50 Elliemae, Maybe they're trying to bring the sport back to the olympics. Bree was chosen to be the Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan of Plunge for Distance. WatchingOne, It's definitely NB and her piss poor video equipment. I HATE IT! I HATE IT! I HATE IT! by Joe on 2006-12-22 17:35:48 Whaa? I was saying that WatchingOne owned faraday, who said Athletes got busted for it, because that's clearly false. I think WatchingOne is the one downing the p0wning, not getting p0wned. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 17:36:51 *downing = doing by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 17:37:45 Oooh, you were pointing out when someone brought it up. Damn I need to lay of the beer when I'm doing this. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 17:39:26 OHhh man, *gloves off* JACKIE -IT IS VIRTUALLY UNDETECTABLE!!! The suspected use of EPO in athletes surface when several athletes DIED from overuse- still no good test. There was a HUGE scandal in 1998 when an ENTIRE team was caught using it, at which time a French doping lab claimed they had developed a urinalysis that could could detect it. THE PROBLEM was, the test CAN'T disguish between normal amounts of EPO existing in athletes under strain and elevated levels reliably. IN FACT, one OF THE ONLY cases of an athlete getting "caught" using it was in 2005, when Mssr. Beke had his case OVERTURNED by presenting scientific evidence of how UNRELIABLE the doping test was. *steam coming off head* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 17:50:29 Oh, is that what she was doing with that? Shiiit, I'm slow right now, I need to go. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 17:55:53 ALERT!!! I HAVE INFO ON BREES MEDS!!!!!! Epoetin alfa is a man-made, injectable drug for treating anemia. Erythropoietin is a protein that normally is made in the body by the kidney. It causes the bone marrow to produce oxygen-carrying red blood cells. Under normal conditions, when the body senses a decrease in red blood cells or a deficiency in the supply of oxygen, more erythropoietin is produced, and this increases the number of red blood cells. When this natural mechanism is not working, it may become necessary to stimulate the bone marrow to produce red blood cells. The erythropoietin that is used for therapy, called epoetin alfa, is man-made. It is a product of the genetic engineering of ovarian cells of the Chinese hamster and is produced through recombinant DNA technology in bacteria. It does not cure the underlying cause of the anemia, and unless the underlying cause can be reversed, treatment with epoetin alfa must be continued indefinitely. Epoetin alfa belongs to a class of drugs called colony-stimulating factors because of their ability to stimulate cells in the bone marrow to multiply and form colonies of identical cells. Other colony-stimulating factors include filigrastim (Neupogen) and sargramostim (Leukine). Epogen and Procrit are both epoetin alfa, but they are marketed by two different pharmaceutical companies. So basically this means that either the ceremony requires Bree to give blood, or else she needed more red blood cells for some reason. info from: http://www.medicinenet.com/epoetin_alfa/article.htm by bellakins11215 on 2006-12-22 17:55:59 Man, smart people are just coming out of the woodwork, now.... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 17:58:04 again....? by Emily on 2006-12-22 17:58:23 I'm just gonna sit here and *meep* until a new video comes out... I'm getting stressed... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:01:02 Good lord, nearly 700 comments later, and you think we haven't figured out what Epogen does? Damn. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:01:16 #668 WatchingOne: Oy oy, I was pwning Pinko by showing it was said earlier, not you, Watching. And also, the post that I quoted also said it was virtually impossible to detect, too! Not arguing with you or B-as-in-B. I quoted B-as-in-B in a post in the 190s, I think, because I thought the information was so good. He spoke about the scandals too. Goodness gracious. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:01:32 ppl are discovering the bombs after they blow up :O by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 18:03:16 *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* *meep* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:03:35 #674 Pinko: Ha, I haven't wanted to bash anyone, because I know what it feels like to come in late and dread reading hundreds of comments, but seriously, if you want to share some information and want everyone to read it, you should at least skim the messages, or Ctrl+F (Firefox) or Ctrl+L (IE) and see if some keywords have been in other messages. If I see one more person giving the LINK to epogen.com, which I gave at #23, I'm going to lose it. Do you people seriously think you're the only ones that decided to Google Epogen?! by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:05:18 #675, nice, I'm not as slow at the moment as I thought, I didn't think that's where you were going with it. I DID say I didn't notice if anyone mentioned it. But, you can p0wn me anytime you want. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:06:51 I'm sorry Jackie, I obviously misunderstood -didn't mean to unleash my wrath on you...*Re-Leashing wrath- calming, calming ... calm...* I'm glad I misunderstod you, though, you, I musy say this in all honesty, are one of the most well-spoken and learned people on this board and I think you're awesome. *meep* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:07:51 I know man, everyone's like "OMG BIG NEWS! Epogen's for ANAEMICS!!!" Uh... buuuh. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:09:07 WOAH, WatchingOne, you're going to have to take a couple steps back and cold shower. You can't have Jackie. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:11:08 before i start "meeping" around, i have a doubt, since i cant eat oranges...bananas and pears are ok? no problem with them? :| *meep* by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 18:11:29 PinkoLady -I feel you - that's why I'm just going to go *meep* from now on...it's very soothing.... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:11:37 #680: Aww, Watching, stopppp! ... No, it's ok, go on. And by the way, remind me to never get on your bad side! That steam thing was pretty scary to witness. And Pinko, yes yes, damn it everyone, I know you said you didn't notice it, but SO?! You didn't notice, so I showed you, and and! Neverminddd. But hey, when I first mentioned B's post, I also came onto you, I think. But since you missed it, here: I will pwn you. ... IN BED! Still think I'm learned, Watching? by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:13:04 Yep. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:14:39 HEY EVERYONE, OMIGAWD, OMIGAWD, HEY, HEY! LISTEN! READ THIS! THIS RIGHT HERE! YEAH! I HAVE A THEORY!!!!!!!!!!! ... WHAT IF... Epogen was being given to Bree because they wanted to use her BLOOD in the ritual! :o :o :o God, I am a GENIUS. Now excuse me while I go Google Epogen, since I'm sure none of you were smart enough to do that since last night. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:15:00 found something i thought was interesting. talks about blood sacrafice and aleister crowley... Blood sacrifice has been used in ceremonial magic. Magicians have believed that it releases an instant burst of power which they used for the performance of magical spells and conjuration. The old grimoires command the killing of animals and using their skins to make parchments on which to draw needed magical symbols. Animals which were offered to God and demons had to be young, healthy and virgin in order that the maximum amount of energy would be released. Theoretically, the killing, letting of blood and the fear of death throes of the victim, added to the frenzy of the magician. An example of this was stated by Aleister Crowley in Magick in Theory and Practice (1929), "The ethics of the thing appear to have concerned no one; nor, to tell the truth, need they do so." Crowley routinely sacrificed animals in his rituals that took place in a magic circle or triangle, which prevented the released power from escaping. He tortured the animal first in order to obtain an elemental slave, as "indefensible, utterly black magic of the worst kind," and then proceeding he stated he had no objection to such black magic when it was "properly understood." Currently animals sacrifices still occur in various tribal groups and the religious practices of Voodoo and Santeria. Such practices have been protested by animal rights groups, but the Santerians claimed the United States Constitution protects their right to worship as they deem proper. They defended animal sacrifice by demonstrating its ancient roots. From reports by ex-members of some Satanic groups animal and human sacrifice still occur within these groups. The human victims include kidnapped runaways, children and derelicts. Frequently torture and sexual abuse is applied first. Both are believed to release energy for magical purposes. In various rites the victims’s blood is drunk, and parts of the body are consumed. A.G.H. website: http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/s/sacrifice.html by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 18:15:06 Hey Watching, wanna have a threesome with me and Pinko? by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:15:53 I'm still incredibly sick. My fever is 102.2 even though I just had a glass of cold water. Of course, I've only been on anti-biotics for two days. So, this is why I haven't had the energy to comment more. Just a little *meep* is all I've got for you! by Marbella on 2006-12-22 18:16:53 #688 slydergirl: It's also common practice for witches to use their menstrual blood in spells, specifically on the full moon. Not making this up. Wish I were. I live in Arizona, and it's a reeeeally new age city. Not as much as Sedona, but it's a close second. Every Halloween, you have to keep your animals inside -- specifically white and black cats. Witches or cult people or whoever have been known to steal your animals, specifically purely white or black cats, and burn them in the parks here. My mom once came across a burnt dog in a park here with my dad. I was with them, but I only have a vague memory of it because I was so little. Thank God. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:18:25 #690 Marbella: I'll be saying prayers that you get better before Christmas. Big hugs to you! by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:19:19 Jackie- Pinko said I couldn't have ya in #682 (but, she didn't say anything about her being there too.....) by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:20:34 Marbella -I'm sorry to hear that...*passes over Purple cough syrup* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:22:10 #691. Jackie: Ew. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:23:02 #691: eeeeeekkkk! by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 18:24:15 WatchingOne: I already said I'd sleep with you. Actually, I said I'd sleep with everyone, but it was in reply to your post. How did you miss that? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:24:45 Okay, wait. Wait. Hold up. After they make these spells with their period blood... what do they do with them? How are these spells put to use? BLARGH. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:26:50 #691 Jackie- wow. I didn't know that. That really sucks. I'm a HUGE animal lover (I volunteer and foster dogs and cats) and if I ever came across some.....expletive....doing that to a dog or cat, they'd get a first hand taste of what Hell's really like. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:26:51 How has Peta not already burned them at the stake? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:28:12 PinkoLady -Oh , I didn't miss it, i was just responding to posts 682 and 689 ;) by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:29:05 Well, then you should know that I'd totally be willing to be there too. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:32:15 Pinko: #697: I am REALLY offended. Is that all we mean to you? Is that all *I* mean to you? Am I just anyone? God. I... I guess I just... had the wrong idea, that's all. ... No, no, that's ok. No, no need to comfort me. I'm fine. No, look at me. I'm fine. I don't care. No. I mean, yeah, it was just a bit of fun ::sniffle:: #698 I don't know about it in depth, of course, as I'm not a witch. But I know they do things like gather their blood and use it in the garden or just bleed over things outside. Maybe they use the stuff from the garden, then, to make things? I don't know. A part of me wants to Google it. Another part of me soooo doesn't. And #699 WatchingOne: I know, it's horrible. We had a white Persian Himalayan mix, beautiful, used to be a show cat before we adopted him. He was stolen, and that still bothers me to this day. And on top of it, I grew up with an abusive father that used to physically abuse his dog in front of me when he was angry too. So I'm MASSIVELY against animal cruelty! It devastates me. Apart from that, I seriously can't live without an animal. I adopted a couple dogs from the Humane Society, but they both ended up showing that they had late-stage distemper, so I guess there was an outbreak in that time period. It took me years to adopt another dog (which is why we had cats!). Finally, I did, and now I have two and still want more! They make my life so much better. I can't imagine hurting them. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:33:15 #700 Pinko: Well, if the people are caught, of course there are charges and everything, but they're very very most often not caught. In fact, I can't think of a specific case where they were. I know it was happening to horses around here at one point, those people may have been caught.... by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:35:41 Jakcie -amen. Pinko- AMEN!!!!!!!!!!! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:37:05 I have nothing against animals ... however PETA is an evil orginazation that teaches how to make bombs. They have a militant wing of PETA that uses violence against humans for doing things. I also find it hypocritcal that... well watch this video below it will explain the bullshit orginization PETA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY by Marcus on 2006-12-22 18:39:01 Last night, you tried to do the whole chatroom, Jackie. I masked my pain with jest, Jackie... that's right, PAIN. I'll do you everyone, but I'll do you first? And best. Aside from that... I'm vegan, for purely ethical reasons, so I was trying to ignore that animal part for my own sanity, or at least let it sink in slowly. I really, really don't understand how you could stand to burn an animal-- especially such social ones. I can't even wrap my mind around it. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:42:36 Let's not get too off-topic here. I do agree that Peta can be absolutely insane. I mean bonkerssss, and violent. BUT. They're also very helpful and protect a lot of animals. And I know a lot of Peta supporters aren't crazy. I liken it to being pro-life. I'm pro-life, but who the hell is pro-life and bombs abortion clinics with moms and babies and... you know... LIFE in there? It makes no sense, but it happens a lot. Some people are just plain loopy, crazy, insane and violent. But it's still great to be pro-life (and pro-choicers, I see where you're coming from too, so let's not debate this here!), and pro-animal-rights! by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:42:51 Marcus- PETA does take it too far, BUT, I have A MAJOR PROBLEM with anyone deliberately abusing animals (and not some of the B.S. examples PETA comes up with as abuse), I mean really abusing animals. I wouldn't have a problem letting some jerk have it that's doing something that cruel and heartless. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:45:06 #704- Hmm, I wasn't completely referring to official punishment. Peta has a huge direct action faction... covert op. lab raids, etc. There was a cult in Philly outed for sacrificing cats when I was younger, and I remember they were outed after some Peta members burned the place down... by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:46:49 Pinko: It's interesting, this last summer, I just started craving a lot of vegetables, so all I ate were salads, expecting my want for meat to come back when it got colder, or when my body started, you know, DYING. Never happened. I lived on nothing but veggies and fruit for MONTHS. I got disgustingly thin (I'm already a really thin and lean girl, leaning on the side of underweight always), but I still did NOT want meat. In fact, it turned me off. My mom started trying to make me eat it, since I was looking so sickly, but when I tried, it made me ILL. I could NOT do it. And I usually love meat! Well, slowly, she and my boyfriend started making me, and now I'm... sort of ok with it? But introducing it back into my body made me feel sick for weeks. And I have a lot less energy now. I just don't enjoy it anymore. So i asked my mom, "Do you think I could've just become a vegetarian overnight?" and she said she'd heard of that. And it's not that I'm against eating animals, it's just... my body isn't so into it, for whatever reason. Could you PM me with links or tips for how to do it in a healthy way where all my hair won't fall out and I won't look like walking death? by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:47:19 Jackie , yeah -lets not get off topic- Pinko said it's cool -so the threesome is on! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 18:47:40 Ah, I see marcus already got to what I meant. They're not evil, but their direct action definitely goes a bit too far sometimes. Anyway, Marcus, my point was not that Peta should do it (and maybe they should...) but that I'm surprised they haven't. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:48:39 Look I think we should absolutely CHANGE this subject... its like discussing Religion and/or Politics and this site has been relatively free of that (with the exception of the Militant Orange Slurpee Liberation Faction and the Free Smurfs Alliance) This type of discussion incites too much emotion and going this route is wrong. by Marcus on 2006-12-22 18:49:19 Jackie! My love! Of course! The thing is though, to definitely NOT just eat veggies and fruits-- substitutes, carbs, and vitamin SUPPLEMENTS like crazy are essential. It can be kind of expensive(luckily, I have a kick-ass, well-paying job) and it sounds strange, but everything you can get out of meat and animal by-product can also be gotten through soy, tofu, and supplement pills. But more, PM-style, later. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 18:52:49 Thanks, you hot, vegan sex kitten. I appreciate it. By the way, do you know if the estrogen in soy could be a problem if you have a lot of female cancers in your family? Not sure how much you know about all of it. And Marcus, didn't you bring it up? Sorry. Don't mean to step on any toes here or start a fight. Anyway, I'd better be going for a bit. Hugs to you all, and Pinko and I will be getting to you later, Watching, you studmuffin, you. Later, guys! by Jackie on 2006-12-22 18:57:40 Hey all- going to run for now -I'll check back later to see if any more really cool, original theories on Epogen or blood sacrifices come up....(heheee) Night all! *MEEEEEEEEEPPPPP* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 19:00:14 PinkoLady You are absolutely right the best substitutes for meat to put protien in your body is soy. Morningstar and Boca are some of the best substitues on the market and they are unbelievably tasty as well. If you are anti-milk as well then definitely go with Continent soy milk its phenomenal. by Marcus on 2006-12-22 19:00:29 Marcus: MMmm, delicious, 8th continent is my soy milk of choice-- Haha, I've been vegan for 4 years now. But, I'm going to go booze up, so I'm out as well. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 19:11:52 Marbella, Sorry, I don't have the time to revisit old posts. I'm curious? What is causing your 102.2 temp? by Alexi on 2006-12-22 19:13:39 It was in the newspaper a few weeks ago that it's now being found that, in the States at least, many soy products (including tofu) are being processed in such a way as to a) destroy their nutritional value, or b) become toxic in the body. I'm allergic to soy so I stay away from it... but for those of you that rely on it, it's probably worth investigating. by Perky on 2006-12-22 19:14:11 wish they would put another episode up. i miss the days when we used to get two. by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 19:20:06 FYI I am a nurse and I used to work on the Oncology (cancer) floor at the hospital. We gave Epogen to many cancer patients because cancer (as well as most chemotherapy drugs) cause the body to become low in red blood cells. by mommy72900 on 2006-12-22 19:20:16 #711 Jackie I touched on the topic of Veganism and Vegetarianism with PinkoLady the other day. In regards to wanting advice RE: healthy options, may I suggest Barley Grass and/or Wheatgrass. I grow wheatgrass and extract the juice from it daily. It is one of natures most natural foods on the planet that you can solely survive on. http://www.wheatgrasskits.com/barleygrass.htm ************************************************ Hippocrates, the father of medicine advised, "Let your food be your medicine," and Shin Huange-ti, said "It is the diet which maintains true health and becomes the best drug." by Alexi on 2006-12-22 19:22:32 Marcus #714 - on the contrary, Marcus I believe we should halt all discussions on the Free Smurf Alliance. As the official representative of Azrael the Cat (see my profile), the Free Smurf Alliance destroys his unalienable rights as a feline to hunt rodent-sized creatures. by gnome on 2006-12-22 19:31:25 I was eating a steak for dinner. Then I come back on here and find out I'm evil. Poor cow, I'm sorry. by Joe on 2006-12-22 19:34:46 Joe, I had a burger for dinner... but I used organic ground beef... so maybe I'm not totally evil? by Perky on 2006-12-22 19:52:12 Pery, What's organic ground beef? Is that a fancy way of saying you paid too much for a big mac? by Joe on 2006-12-22 19:55:07 epogen is for anemics. it stimulates red blood cell reproduction and increases iron in your blood. before, bree was taking "iron pills" in "in the park". She has stopped taking epogen now. Yahoo Health says that medical attention is required if a dose is missed. In "skateboarding", bree looks pale. Yahoo Health says that this means that one's body has stopped responding to Epogen. Also, she drives horribly in "learning to drive", because one's reactions are slowed during the first 3 months of treatment. It makes sense for her skin to be pale, because she is no longer on Epogen. She will probably experience nausea, vomiting, and lightheadedness. BREE YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD COULD DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by luigikart on 2006-12-22 20:06:38 OK, so I don't know about everyone else, but I've gotten spoiled by daily videos and I really hope they post another tonight! :-D by ginger4298 on 2006-12-22 20:09:51 Alright, so I'm waiting for a friend to pick me up, and I just wanted to see what was up while waiting, but I just had to say this: I HATE when people act like vegetarians or vegans are being preachy when they're. There are a lot of preachy, self-aggrandizing, judgemental vegetarians and vegans out there, and I really really freaking dislike them too. Burn, maim, ritually sacrifice, or otherwise purposefully torture or abuse animals and I will probably judge you and not like you at all... otherwise, we don't have beef. Pun vaguely intended. Meat is tasty, I like it, transitioning to a vegan diet was tough, I understand that it's totally fine to not be able to, or to completely not want to. And organic, free-range meat = really good idea. I'm considering attempting to transition to at least free-range vegetarianism. Just wanted to get that out there! :D End tangent. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 20:10:32 Er... that sentence was supposed to be "I HATE when people act like vegetarians or vegans are being preachy when they’re NOT." by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 20:11:59 Joe, organic = no hormones in the cow or the feed it was given (before it was needlessly slaughtered in a revoltingly cruel way to be ground up and sold to me - at far too high a cost - to provide my daily dose of protein). :-) by Perky on 2006-12-22 20:12:48 i just started watching ur vidies.... why were you on the run?? whats the cerimon??? i dont really get it by blahblah11 on 2006-12-22 20:17:29 In addition: I totally understand not wanting to be vegan or vegetarian, but you have to be completely naive-- yes, naive-- to not understand why people who are veg want to be that way. And organic and free-range foods aren't all expensive, if you know where to get them. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 20:21:57 HI EVERYBODY IM BACKKKK!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 20:26:28 PinkoLady: I don't remember where they said she was injecting it. If you mean her shoulder. No, that spot is traditionally used for i.m. injections like the flu shot... s.c. injections are most often in belly skin... Like a diabetic would inject insulin. by Tennafox on 2006-12-22 20:29:47 If I remember correctly, Bree was also on a very strict and hard diet. Connected with the Epogen, this can mean: - The diet weakened her, making it hard for her to concentrate, so she needed the drug in order to be able to concentrate on her learning. - She needs the drug (EPO) because she is supposed to go in a trance during the ceremony and do things that are impossible for regular people to do (like lifting an object that under normal circumstances would be too heavy for her to lift). They would then have explained this as her being "posessed" by someone, like crowley or even satan? - She was being prepared to be impregnated. Some people are very sensitive to certain food groups while pregnant, developing alergies. Sometimes the result is that the child is born with those same allergies, which in a "breeding"-context would mean an inferior child. What do you all think of this theory? by anironminuial on 2006-12-22 20:30:38 PinkoLady, Never take anything I post seriously. The last serious comment I made was 7 years ago when someone asked me for directions to the post office and I said I didn't know where it was. Ever since then it's all been lame attempts at being funny. Perky, So you make the cow eat crappy food before you eat it. You're more evil than I am. I let them eat whatever they want. Except for oranges. by Joe on 2006-12-22 20:30:47 yo where my peeps at!? by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 20:31:01 #734 blahblah11 you should really start to see the videos from the beginning #736 RUNNNNNNN CLOUD IS HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE eh eh just joking :p by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 20:36:46 Joe, I figure if the cow is going to die anyways, it should believe life is miserable and not worth living for... so really, I'm doing it a favor. PinkoLady, Please lighten up. You're given the latitude to speak about whatever you want, however you want... the rest of us would like to be entertained as well, even if it means making totally smartass comments about issues of no real importance. by Perky on 2006-12-22 20:41:28 I guess there won't be an LG15 Christmas special. Cload_ax, It's a slow night. by Joe on 2006-12-22 20:41:55 cloud_ax I want a badass weapon... can I join the ranks? by Perky on 2006-12-22 20:42:43 Perky, When you put it that way I guess you are doing them a favor. From now on I will make it my mission in life to making cows wish for death. After I bring down the evil Orange Slurpee. by Joe on 2006-12-22 20:52:33 Perky done and done. as for a badass weapon how about a 2 by 4 wraped in barbwire. that is badass!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 20:54:09 PinkoLady: Save the animals, eat a vegetarian. ;-) Just kidding Seriously though, in my country there is a campaign to protect pigs, because it seems that even in Western civilisation, young male pigs are castrated without any kind of anaesthesia. Even I, being a non-veggie, think that's horrible. by anironminuial on 2006-12-22 20:55:43 I am going out to a party... getting drunk off my ass and rockin out with my **** out. So later to all you guys I hope the holidays treat you well. Have a nice time get ****'d up and ring a bell. Sorry but I wanted to rhyme. @Cheese@ L8R Happy Holidays! by Marcus on 2006-12-22 21:00:08 Joe, Just be careful... we wouldn't want them so miserable that they go leaping off of a cliff... (random South Park reference) Good luck with the slurpees. cloud_ax is recruiting the troops (#395) by Perky on 2006-12-22 21:04:31 I want a badass weapon too. Can I have a bat with nails sticking out of it. Even better rusty nails. by Joe on 2006-12-22 21:05:05 #746 cloud_ax That is totally badass, and just a little redneck... I'm in! by Perky on 2006-12-22 21:07:28 oh well, i'll go to bed now, it's 4am around here, and i'm really getting bored so it's probably the best thing to do :\ cya ppl and other kind of strange things that might read this Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-22 21:07:47 Perky and Joe: Ehh, I really wasn't that upset about it, I just didn't want anyone to think I was being preachy about veganism, because I know so many asshole vegans--- it's more a reflection of that than anything else. But, I do hate when people act like I am when I'm not-- and I said it was kind of random rant I am. I really do appreciate all the smartass comments, and I can totally take a veg joke-- but people have actually gotten pissed at me for being vegan in their presence, I guess I just like to guard myself against that. Seriously, I have a sense of humor! I take very little seriously! It just bothers me when people get pissd off at me for no reason, which happens a lot when dietary shit comes up; it's kind of annoying that people can't take it for what it is-- glad you guys can. My friend needs to friggin get here. Oh, and the last comment was genuinely letting you know that cheap and organic are mutually exclusive. =P by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:12:19 Oy, I mean NOT mutually exclusive. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:13:05 I'm not really a fan of the its cassie videos but I always thought that in her previous videos she was trying to help bree or at least that she liked bree........ now the last 2 have been mean and hateful!! like she is just pissed!!! whats up with that? Ever since bree mentioned the prank calls she is not happy!!!! by Crooked Angel on 2006-12-22 21:13:08 Perky, Good point. I'll just taunt them a bit. That should make them depressed enough to welcome death but not enough to actually end their life. (South Park rules) by Joe on 2006-12-22 21:13:35 I wish I could have said my intial piece in person, it always comes off a lot more stick-up-the-ass in writing than in person. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:14:16 sure joe. nail bat it is!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 21:16:43 OH MAN wait, this entire dietary discussion totally sets things up for another Hitchiker's Guide reference: somone needs to make cows that want to be eaten, and serve themselves. Eh? Eh?? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:17:24 current lg15 defence force members: cloud_ax gemmas flatmate jo_16_2 Watchingone pinkolady gnome Dream Perky joe Any one else??? by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 21:18:19 PinkoLady made me feel so inferior that I now feel I must become a vegetarian too :( by Jackie on 2006-12-22 21:21:02 Whatev man, it happens. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:22:55 #755 Crooked Angel: I'm pretty sure PinkoLady and I made her bitter. She can't track us down, so she's going to take her wrath out on Bree. cloud_ax: ::raises hand:: Duh! by Jackie on 2006-12-22 21:23:10 jackie if i let you in what can you bring to the force!!!??? by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 21:25:19 Hey, I just have a couple of minutes, and knowing this crowd, a couple of you have probally already seen this....but this is the most hilarious comedy team I've EVER seen - check it out and let me know what you think! http://youtube.com/watch?v=fqWrU2NValU by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 21:25:22 Joe, May you forever be blessed with exceptional prime rib. (and any friend of South Park is a friend of mine) by Perky on 2006-12-22 21:25:24 [22:28:36] ODZAMRAN: I can't tell you things about Bree, only about me. [22:28:43] Jackie: We don't care about you, though I'm pretty sure this was the last straw. "[itscassie shakes fist in air and screams to the gods: BREE, I WILL EAT YOU FOR DINNERRRRRRRRR!] k. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 21:28:55 #764: Forcefulness? Not to mention my superior intellect, wit and charm. Just ask Pinko and Watching. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 21:29:49 Shit, no one's read Restraunt at the End of the Universe? Jackie, I have a war elephant and a garter with a dagger and flask-- and also, biting wit, to demoralize the enemy. Top that, yo. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:31:07 pinko- speaking from the perspective of a omniverous junk food addict, I have to say that when people think you're being preachy, it's their self-consciousness acting up (unless you actually are being preachy...) If someone makes an effort to avoid something not-entirely-healthy (be it beef or alcohol) then the people who haven't made that decision feel, by default, judged. I had a friend who really was a judgemental vegan. He once insisted that the only cheesecake served at a party be vegan, otherwise the vegan one would just be the vegan copy of the "good" one. Tofu cheesecake (or at least the recipe we used) is disgusting. Even the vegans wouldn't touch it. to get back on topic... I googled Epogen, and it says it's for anemia. Maybe they were going to do some bloodletting of some sort. *running away, arms flailing and cackling like a mad woman* by friendsofelvis on 2006-12-22 21:34:26 Jackie and Pinkolady you were both rude to cassie. She at least is trying to do something creative, pulling people down is easy, anyone can do that. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 21:34:49 wit and charm are not enough. can you run and enemy of lg15 throu with a shape object and yell TAKE THAT BIT*H!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 21:36:25 and that girl samantha I wanted to send her to her room without dinner the little brat. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 21:36:26 *an enemy by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 21:37:31 I think she's filing sexual harassment charges: [22:15:31] Jackie: Cassie, how can we help you? [22:15:42] PinkoLady: Cassie, how can we service you? [22:18:28] lets_steal_everythin: i wanna see you.. sans wig [22:18:38] Jackie: Cassie, I wanna see you... sans clothing [22:20:46] ODZAMRAN: The order took me because I knew too much, and was far too curious [22:20:58] Jackie: Cassie, can I take you? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:41:57 Jackie if you can shank this orange with this dagger and yell TAKE THAT BIT*H your in! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 21:42:50 btw i think orange shanking should be an national past time. by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 21:44:02 Prime rib, I'm getting hungry again. Actually some salsbury steak would be even better. PinkoLady, Don't worry, we're just kiddin around. Jackie, Wow. You were really mean to itscassie. I'm liking you even more. by Joe on 2006-12-22 21:46:06 PickoLady,are you by chance jelous of cassie? You sure seem fixated on her. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 21:46:21 #770 friendsofelvis: I go out of my way not to be preachy, and generally I only bring it up if someone else brings up dietary preferences/animal rights first, or asks me. And dude, I hate health food, I make vegan junk food all the time with egg and milk substitutes, not tofu unless I have to-- though tofu can be delicious, depending on how you do it. I know lots of judgemental holier-than-thou types, it's freaking annoying-- and a moronic way of getting people to understand your cause, if you have one. Yeah, we were terrible to itscassie, Jackie. Now she lying awake in the darkest of nights, dreading our inuendo, and other less subtle sex jokes. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:47:32 771: "you were both rude to cassie." Yeah, and? We don't deny it. In fact, we proclaim it proudly. "pulling people down is easy, anyone can do that." Yeah, but is it easy to do it with THIS much style? by Jackie on 2006-12-22 21:48:57 I'm not jealous of her, robtomorrow-- I'm in love with her. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:49:07 Finally, time to go. Farewell! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:50:56 No cassie is just ignoring you she just posted a new video. I doubt if she thinks you are important enough to lie awake worrying about. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 21:52:00 Haha, robtomorrow, do you still not realize that that's reference to her own cheesy-ass lines? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-22 21:54:09 Will you all excuse me for one second? [disappears briefly and returns looking like the love child of Lara Croft and a ninja] I see you made it here. [eyes orange] Lovely party dress you have on. Trying to impress me? Well, lovely as you look, and as much as I've wanted to taste you in the past... that means nothing to me anymore. That was the past, orange. And this. THIS is your future. [jumps into the air, flips for absolutely no reason, does some impressive gymnast shit and lands in a sweet pose, dagger in hand] [orange rolls slightly, in a pitiful attempt to make it off of the edge of the table] Oh you poor fool. Don't you know your measley attempts won't thwart me? I know all your tricks. You forget how many times I've been drunk on your juice. ... I know... I know, please don't bring up the fact that I tricked you into letting vodka over. Vodka and I... we're over now. And I'm sorry for all that. But now... now I'm only sorry for THIS! [shanks the orange, which is left in juicy, disassembled pieces. one drop slowly dripping from the edge of the table....] by Jackie on 2006-12-22 21:57:02 dude, cloud, im sooo ready to put my life on the line and defend our countr...err...website... them hata bitches dont know shit sry im a littl eon the hyper side and listening to rap...not a good combination by sydney on 2006-12-22 21:59:55 WOW!!! jackie... YOUR IN!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:00:10 Robtomorrow. Either you're Cassie, or you're bitter because you wear a bad hairpiece. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 22:00:19 #786 *bravo* by Perky on 2006-12-22 22:01:06 HELL TO THA YES! by Jackie on 2006-12-22 22:01:14 sydney your in too!! Welcome jackie and sydney!!! current lg15 defence force members: cloud_ax gemmas flatmate jo_16_2 Watchingone pinkolady gnome Dream Perky joe jackie sydney DAMN the ranks grow!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:02:27 How the damn is it that everyone else got in so easily? I at least deserve some high position after all that work you put me through by Jackie on 2006-12-22 22:07:54 Jackie, Ummm! Speechless. Cloud_ax, Jackie's name should be on the top of the list. by Joe on 2006-12-22 22:13:50 jackie are you back sasin the commanding officer??!!! Listings are in order of joining not rank! i just asked for an orange shanking! DAMN!! if anything you are the highest of the people who have not entered battle yet!! and yea i said back sasin!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:13:59 Sydney, Hyper. You haven't been drinking Orange Slurpees again, have you? by Joe on 2006-12-22 22:16:17 Jackie, I stopped watching the videos on YouTube because I got sick of all the haters. It seems that the comments on lonelygirl15.com are becoming much like YouTube. On YouTube I was often defending Bree, pretty much for the same reason that I am defending Cassie. They are doing something creative. It's not perfect, lonelygirl15 is not perfect. But this should be a creative supportive environment for everyone. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 22:16:35 repeat- LISTINGS NOT RANK LISTINGS ORDER OF ENTERENCE!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:16:35 Joe just digs it when I strap a dagger around my thigh. And I'm like those characters in movies, you know, the one that's a pain in the ass and rebellious and back sasses, but is worth it because of their awesomeness. I'm good at what I do. Plus, I make the movie more interesting. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 22:17:32 Then why aren't you supporting my creativity, robtomorrow? by Jackie on 2006-12-22 22:19:51 Jackie you are not being creative you are being negative. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 22:21:23 The Creators can't grow, and neither can Cassie, nor can ANYONE, without criticism. This is a place where you should be able to state your opinions -- good or bad. And you should be able to joke too. And life isn't good without jokes and humor. itscassie's putting her stuff up, to be viewed by the public. She knows this, and she knows not everyone's going to like it. And what a boring, shallow world this would be if the only people that spoke up were people that had nice things to say, or that always agreed. by Jackie on 2006-12-22 22:23:54 there is no rank. i may be the c.o. but we work as a unit. all with strengths and weeknesses. we are as one. united we stand divided we .... .... .... dont stand united! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:24:23 Ive said my peace take is as you will. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-22 22:26:16 "Joe just digs it when I strap a dagger around my thigh." I also liked the impressive gymnast shit. :) by Joe on 2006-12-22 22:26:56 #797 robtomorrow -O.K. -couldn't let that one go *defending the board mode* O.K. , so , you got sick of the posters on YouTube and you're sick of the users here, now.....MAYBE the problem isn't with us. Just a thought. As far as this board being a creative and supportive environment, let me remind you of this: "At the Heart of Creativity, lies Criticsism" I'm not trying to be mean, I want you to enjoy yourself here, so DOES EVERYONE. We're just having fun, O.K. :) *meep* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 22:27:10 DAMN this is geting heated!! wheres my popcorn... by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:27:48 ::hugs Watching, cloud and Joe:: Goodnight, guys! Agree to disagree, robtomorrow ::hugs for you too:: 'night! by Jackie on 2006-12-22 22:28:47 i think fighting on the internet is like running in the special olympics even if you win YOU'RE STILL RETARDED by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-22 22:29:45 807 cloud_ax i'll share some of mine... by Perky on 2006-12-22 22:31:51 Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First do you mean aguments on the board or the lg15 defence force fighting for the board?? by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:32:29 jackie....youre my hero by sydney on 2006-12-22 22:32:33 No new videos and everyone starts turning on each other. *Throws orange into middle of room* He's the one to blame, he's the reason there's no new video. by Joe on 2006-12-22 22:33:10 i think people who argue about stupid shit for no reason. im all for stickin up for the board. but if youre just picking fight to pick fights you're a DE DE DE *mind of mencia refrence* by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-22 22:34:28 KILL THAT ORANGE!!!! *raises Battle Axe* by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:35:12 Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First picking fights just for the sake of fighting is not cool remember you can pick your friends you can pick your nose but you CANT pick your friends nose! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:38:16 are the Creators waiting for us to break our record or something???? by gnome on 2006-12-22 22:38:37 "As far as this board being a creative and supportive environment, let me remind you of this: “At the Heart of Creativity, lies Criticsism†I just got here and missed pretty much everything interesing, but still, just to add my two cents: Criticism in itself is no good. Constructive criticism is much more...err...constructive. Anyway...I want some of that butter stuff on my popcorn, please. by Moondoogle on 2006-12-22 22:38:43 *Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First i mean to say your right by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:38:57 Cloud do you know who Carlos Mencia is? well if you don't and for any who don't he does a skit about being stupid. DeDeDe if in reference to being an idiot. and i know a few friends who might let me pick their nose if i got them drunk enough by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-22 22:40:31 *serves Moondoggle buttered popcorn* by Perky on 2006-12-22 22:41:12 IS SOMEONE GOING TO KILL THAT DAMN ORANGE!!!???!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:41:37 Thanks Cloud you're Awesome! by Lieutenant Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-22 22:42:00 Thanks Dream and Ellie-Mae.. I've lost so many marbles I don't know when I'll ever be able to keep up with them all! Just keep them rolling my way, ok? #633 Pinkolady.. I have several videos my friends and I have made involving stuffed animals.. and we are all diagnosed by board certified M.D's. In my case, I've been diagnosed by three double board certified M.D's. My doctor now is certified in both psychiatry and neurology. I love stuffed animals. My friends and I sometimes make video clips with them. You are not in a position to speak from personal experience, as we are. Basically, for adults with Asperger's, we can divide our chronological age into three parts. Mild AS has an emotional age about 1/3 less and severe is 2/3 less. Moderate (the type I have) is somewhere in the middle. So, we do develop imaginative play. Sometimes, it just happens more in our 30's. But, if Bree is 15, she could actually be anywhere between 5-10 if she DID have Asperger's Syndrome or HFA. Thanks Jackie, for your prayers, and WatchingOne for the purple cough syrup!! by Marbella on 2006-12-22 22:42:58 The music did a good job creating the suspense. It reminded me of the days I used to play the Hitman 47 series and Splinter Cell when you stealth around places and try to avoid getting caught. by The Great Silence on 2006-12-22 22:43:08 Cloud - sorry for the delay- this things.....really....heavy.... *drops eighteen-thousand pound weight on orange reducing it to atomic particles* whew! Now THATS a dead orange! *meep* by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 22:45:08 Hi Alexi, Thanks for asking about my health issue. I went to the Duke Clinic Friday and was diagnosed with: strep throat, ear infection, pharyngitis, laryngitis. I've been on antibiotics for two days and still I have a fever that goes very high at night and then drops to very low in the a.m. I've been in intense pain.. like 9/10 on a pain scale. So, I've been taking vicodin every 4 hours, but mid-way through today, I was relieved to realize that I don't need it quite as much. by Marbella on 2006-12-22 22:47:31 *Walks over to orange, kicks it really hard. Orange flies out window and onto cow pasture. Cows that have been feed bad food look at orange with wide eyes and drooling mouth. Cows devour orange* That was easy. Now where is that new video? by Joe on 2006-12-22 22:48:42 HOLY HELL watchingone! you destroyed that orange!! not destroyed, Decimated it!!! good one! HOLLA!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:49:03 holla! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-22 22:49:47 haha it's funny what goes on in here when there's no new videos... by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 22:49:56 Hi guys, I'm doing a LG15 marathon. Watching all LG15 videos from 1 through to 103 - so far I'm at Episode 21 titled, "I probably shouldn't post this" and for those of you who haven't seen it and want to hear Bree use the 'F' word, watch it! I clearly missed this episode prior, and it made me laugh histerically! (just sharing the good times) (Quote) Bree: It's my beliefs! There's a million fucking different religions in the world! WHOA! Is this what happens when Bree doesn't get her shots?? JOKING!! P.S Join me in the LG15 marathon! I'm picking up on things I didn't notice before! As I discover relevant points through my LG15 marathon, I shall post them here! Come on guys, join me in the LG15 marathon. by Alexi on 2006-12-22 22:51:09 Um Joe... now we can't eat the cows. :-( by Perky on 2006-12-22 22:52:12 joe good job sending it to the cows! that orange deserved it!!! HOLLA!!! marbella. wow that is a lot of sicknesses. GET WELL SOON!!! for fighting the Viruses with all your strength earns you a honorary membership of the lg15 defence force!! MEEP by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:53:28 perky if they were poorly feed theh we dont want to eat them anyway! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:55:02 Hi Marbella, I'm sorry to hear of your unfortunate circumstance. I hope you are feeling better today? I may be able to shed some health tips? May I ask what foods you are eating during this time? That is, if you even have an appetite? I ask, because, some foods actually irritate the condition you speak of. Concerned! by Alexi on 2006-12-22 22:55:07 *then by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 22:55:47 834-CloudAx-Thanks. I can't remember the last time I had a fever every night for a whole week. I know it wasn't since I was a child!! Thanks for your well wishes. I appreciate membership in the lg15 defense force.. Meep to you as well.. 832-Alexi-I had thought about doing a "marathon" too, just to watch all of them all over again, knowing what I know now. I probably will when I have more time. It's a good idea. One thing I'm happy about is how I've slept most of the day. I usually wake up every 4 hours with sore throat and lungs wanting vicodin, but I've slept just about all day. Before I went to the dr, I wasn't sleeping but about 2 hrs a night, due to being in too much pain. Oh, and I went on Thurs. I don't know why I put Fri. Anyway, I'm getting sleepy again.. by Marbella on 2006-12-22 23:00:12 Perky, Once they digest the orange we can eat them. I give it about 48 hours. Hmmm, just in time for Christmas. Marbella, I thought I had it bad with a cough lasting three months and counting. I Hope you get better soon. by Joe on 2006-12-22 23:01:58 Ok Marbella, sleep well :) And, yes, when you have more time, definitely tak part in the LG15 marathon! With my usual busy schedule I didn't have time until now to take the opportunity to view all LG15 videos back to back! It's an insightul experience thus far and I highly recommend it! (I will post relevant findings here) OK Marbella, nighty night to you! Take-care :) by Alexi on 2006-12-22 23:04:48 cloud_ax... we're not feeding them yummy food because, if they like life too much, then killing them for food is cruel... giving them non-hormone-enhanced feed (which of course must taste awful) keeps them unhappy and ready to die for us! by Perky on 2006-12-22 23:04:50 current lg15 defence force members: cloud_ax gemmas flatmate jo_16_2 Watchingone pinkolady gnome Dream Perky joe jackie sydney Marbella marbella i realy hope you get better soon! get lots of rest! KICK ITS ASS!!!! *chear for marbella* by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 23:06:33 Hi Alexi..about what am I eating... Hmm. Everything hurts my throat, honestly. Icecream is ok. I take vitamins and supplements-coQ10, alpha-lipoic acid, multivitamin, zinc, melatonin, extra b vitamins, probiotic beadlet, 1 gram of EPA fish oil. Today, I went out and ate fruit and vegetables at a buffet. I cried when I ate teriyaki sauce. I'm not kidding. It hurt a lot. Anyway, this was a very cool video. I liked it a lot. It had that "X-files" feel I love so much. I liked the music and the suspense and action. Goodnight all.. by Marbella on 2006-12-22 23:07:10 NOTE: To those of you who do take part in the marathon, I suggest you start view from the LG15pedia as all links to LG15 videos are avilable to view in consecutive order. Plus, you can read NOTES and TEANSCRIPTS, KEYWORDS, anything you consider relevant to enhance your knowledge pertaining to that particular vidoeo. http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page by Alexi on 2006-12-22 23:08:09 Thanks again Alexi and Cloud-Ax.. nighty-nite : ) by Marbella on 2006-12-22 23:08:43 Maybe what some of u said about cassie being like a personality of bree was right.. it sorta seems like that from itscassie's latest video by Cayla18 on 2006-12-22 23:08:51 Just don't give them any of my popcorn... by Moondoogle on 2006-12-22 23:09:02 good point perky. hopfully their not mad cows. well i have to go now!!! bed time!!! bye!! again, marbella get well soon!!!!!!!!!! by cloud_ax on 2006-12-22 23:09:17 Joe - I'm trusting you with the care of the cows... no shenanigans! cloud_ax - I will be armed and ready the next time we meet... to the rest... good night! by Perky on 2006-12-22 23:13:32 Good night Marbella, Thank you for informing me of your diet! Sorry about the Teriyaki :( It appears you have the right idea in terms of food intake :) *thumbs up* Night! by Alexi on 2006-12-22 23:14:50 guess we're not getting a new video tonight. i'm going to bed. by slydergirl on 2006-12-22 23:15:00 Perky, The orange was just a one time thing. We needed to get rid of it and the cows where there. If we're not getting a new video I'm going to get some sleep. No work till Thursday, I'm going to sleep a lot. Good night all! by Joe on 2006-12-22 23:32:19 I hope you get better Marbella! Creators! Please we need a video to save poor Marbella! by gnome on 2006-12-22 23:42:38 I remember from English Lit Class in High school there are supposed to be four basic endings a story can take - Romance, Comedy, Irony, Tragedy. Where do you guys think the story is headed? by gnome on 2006-12-23 00:07:40 #gnome Tragedy. However, i'll re-evaluate my decision once I complete my LG15 marathon. I'm up to "In the Park" video 34. by Alexi on 2006-12-23 00:15:12 #854 Interesting question. Personally, I think tragedy will be the case with this story. Failing that, romance. Or perhaps both? Lol. by Cee on 2006-12-23 00:47:29 599 perky Huh? Did I miss something? by voyboy on 2006-12-23 00:49:20 long time viewer, first time poster. One thing just stuck out with me throughout the whole video. Isn't it odd the the electricity was still on in a building that appeared to be abandoned? by lostinmybox on 2006-12-23 01:17:12 Nikki b better be investigating this place... by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-23 01:22:00 has anyone seen this? http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=serveshallslaves It's probably the same person as guillotinecalamity, because they posted their first video less than an hour ago and guillotinecalamity has already favored it. by Determination on 2006-12-23 02:02:40 #824 Marbella: I think I made it abundantly clear that I didn't pretend to know anywhere near as much as you on the subject, for obvious reasons, and I even said, specifically, that that was merely my initial reaction to the statement made, which was that delusionally playing with toys was a symptom of autism or schizophrenia. Of the autistic adult women I met, and because of my mom I've met quite a few, I couldn't imagine them playing with toys for a camera any more than my mom would-- and she wouldn't. I can say it one more time if I haven't enough-- that was just my intial reaction, and I never claimed to know more or even anywhere near as much as you do on the subject- again, for obvious reasons. At any rate, I really hope you regain your health quickly. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 02:03:25 Jackie: Watching you fight the good fight really really turns me on. :D by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 02:06:43 Hi guys, For those of you who don't know, I'm participating in a LG15 marathon. Watching LG15 videos, 1 - 103. Currently, I am at video 38 titled "The Equinox"... As I view each video, I take notes and if need be, research. I found a reply to "The Equinox" video that I found interesting and wanted to share. I apologise if this has already been discussed already. Please find below, the response to "The Equinox" video. Enjoy! ************************************************* Posted by Sfonzarelli: For some reason, this whole thing reminds me of Aleister Crowley's book, Moonchild. Her ritual is most likely sexual in nature. The uneducation person's conclusion would be that she's going to be the bvictim of the cliché "virgin sacrifice" - this is an intentional red herring playing on that media stereotype of the occult and on Crowley's popular image - she's obviously preparing for a ceremonial magickal ritual, and it obviously has a sexual element; she has to learn exercises her mother has to teacher. (She is seen doing yoga, I suspect these exercises are tantric exercises) The 23rd lonelygirl15 video, where Bree goes on a random tangeant about Pluto and Antarctica (Yuggoth and the Mountains of Madness, anyone) and arbitrarily mentions that her schoolmates said that she is from a star, along with the tag cephalopod, immediately set me off. Blood is a motiff in this ritual. As pointed out, the Enochian word spelled the Sanskrit word for blood. She got some sort of shot and is taking iron pills. Various indigenous beliefs believe meunstral blood to be the female's life essence and it plays a major part in magical rituals. Kemlite, an bvious insider posing as a fan, posted a random comment about Abramelin and the Enochian language a couple of days. Abramelin oil is a key ingredient in cakes of light, a key ingredient of some of Crowley's rituals - another key ingredient is "blood of the moon" (muentral blood) or "blood of a child" (semen) - Rembmer Cassie's second clue about spilling blood of children? If these guys are seriously versed in their Crowley, they're not just being inappropriately creepy. (Inappropriately bawdy, perhaps) Today is the equinox, and by coincidence, it's the 23rd. 23s have been showing up numerous times throghout my investigation of this thing - there's at least one 23 on Bree's MySpace. I'm sure we'll get details on the equinox ritual, or something will happen today. Anyway, getting back to Crowley's moonchild - Daniel is DanielBeast, (The Book of Daniel - The Beast) if this is a hint, he is "The Beast", ie: Crowley. Daniel perhaps is an occultist as well, and is trying to save Bree from the "bad" occultists. The ritual? To impregnate Bree with a moonchild. (Bree = Breed?) Some of Crowley's rituals are concerned with the creation of a "moonchild" or homonculus - a magical child. This is related to the start of the Aeon of Horus - the Aeon of the Child. (as opposed to previous aeons, the Aeon of Isis and the Aeon of Osiris) The plot of one of Crowley's novels, "Moonchild", revolves around an attractive young female protagonist, and a white magick user modelled after Crowley fighting a cabal of black magick users, both of whom are trying to impregnate her with a Moonchild. (If Daniel is supposed to be Crowley, and he's trying to bang Bree, I'd say there's a plot correlation) In the Cthulhu mythos there are creatures called Moon beasts. There's a subplot of The Invisibles that sort of combines these two concepts, in which sinister elements of the British government were attempting to create a Moonchild through magical ritual - The Monster of Glamis was actually a Lovecraftian moonbeast-type creature and the result of such an attempt. And Princess Diana was actually an avatar of the goddess Diana, and was another part of such attempts. I'm going off on a tangeant, but for some reason, I was immediately reminded o that subplot by this whole thing. Further correlation to Lovecraft; In the Cthulhu mythos, it was John Dee, the originator of Enochian, who first translated the Necronomicon into English. Edit: Oh, and to further correlate as much wackiness as possible, another person who's cosmology revolves around secret conspiracies by the british royal family involving alien breeding is David Icke. Icke thinks all of the politicians in the world are part of an ancient magical alien dragon demon angel vampire fairy elf god bloodline. He is a very amusing crackpot. (WHO IS DEFINITELY ON TO SOMETHING) From Wikipedia: Bibliomancy, also known as Stichomancy and Libromancy, is a form of divination that seeks to know the future by randomly selecting a passage from a book, frequently a sacred text. Method: 1. Pick a book you believe to hold truth. 2. Balance it on its spine; let it fall open. 3. With eyes closed, touch your finger to any random passage. 4. View the passage as wisdom to your future. by Alexi on 2006-12-23 02:08:29 Oh, Marbella, also, in comment #640 I clarified regarding delusion vs. just playing with toys, and that I thought delusionally playing with toys, specifically, was uncharacteristic of adult autism. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 02:12:54 I am aware that passages within the above message I posted contains topics that have or are already being discussed. I just felt this particular message was nicely condensed. Enjoy! by Alexi on 2006-12-23 02:13:42 Damn, I can't read all that now. The moonchild idea seems pretty popular though. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 02:20:59 "Daniel is DanielBeast, (The Book of Daniel - The Beast) if this is a hint, he is “The Beastâ€, ie: Crowley. Daniel perhaps is an occultist as well, and is trying to save Bree from the “bad†occultists. The ritual? To impregnate Bree with a moonchild. (Bree = Breed?) ... The plot of one of Crowley’s novels, “Moonchildâ€, revolves around an attractive young female protagonist, and a white magick user modelled after Crowley fighting a cabal of black magick users, both of whom are trying to impregnate her with a Moonchild. (If Daniel is supposed to be Crowley, and he’s trying to bang Bree, I’d say there’s a plot correlation)" Interesting. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 02:27:27 #866 PinkoLady Hi PinkoLady :) I actually had you in mind when I posted that rather lengthy post RE: reponse to "The Equinox" video as I remember reading an earlier comment from you RE: menstrual blood? (i hope that was you? hehe..) Anywho, contained within that response, discusses in more detail the explaination pertaining to the menstrual blood. :) by Alexi on 2006-12-23 02:28:53 Haha, I think that was Jackie actually, though we're so similar in our delightful irreverence, and spewing of random facts. I commented on being horrified by the thought of it, however. Jackie said that it was common for witches to use their mentrual blood in their spells. Though, I did mention that historically, Judaism considered women unclean during menstruation and didn't allow them to worship. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 02:58:40 #812 sydney: And you're my bedtime fantasy. #813 Joe: You tooootally just want to see me open a can o' whoopass on an orange again, admit it. #832 Alexi: Good thinking! I've considered going through them all again, to see what we missed, but... well, I'm lazy. You do it for us ^_^ #858 lostinmybox: Hmmm, good point. I like your input, keep posting! #868 Alexi: Nope! I'm the sicko you have to thank for that ^_^ I know Pinko's pretty sick, though, so I don't blame you for expecting it to be her. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:00:54 #824 Marbella: Hmm, that's interesting, what you had to say about Asperger’s and the ability to divide your age into three parts (or rather, your age already being separated that way). It sounds a lot like me, only I'm this way because of trauma. I have severe PTSD from a bad childhood and have emotionally, in most ways, pretty much stayed at the same age I was when the trauma happened. And throughout my childhood, being separated from my mom sometimes, and losing most of my family, caused me to become VERY attached to my stuffed animals, namely a bunny I take with me wherever I go if I have to sleep there. I just always assumed Bree was the way she was as a coping mechanism, because of some trauma we may not know about and current traumatic events. But I will definitely be researching Asperger’s. Thank you for sharing your personal experience with us. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:01:35 Creators: I think you should screw with people a little and post a vid at like 2am MST. Perfect because it's 4am on the east coast and 1am in Cali. No one'll expect it. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:06:30 Marbella #824-- Damn, I always come of so bitchy without realizing it... Seriously, I was just explaining an off-hand comment I made based on an intial reaction, that I shouldn't have made so off-handly. =P And damn you jackie for somehow making me more aware of coming off bitchy. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:19:11 By the way, it looks like itscassie listened to us, Pinko, and whoever else wanted her wig off. She totally did it. Thanks, Cassie doll! by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:20:59 So, unrelated to anything I've said since whenever I got home... I can't get over the fact that all that expensive medication was so easily accessible. Considering the short shelf-life of Epogen, and the fact that it still had a little under a month to go before expiring, there's no reason that building shouldn't have been locked, with decent security. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:22:34 #873 Pinko: What the hell did I do?! Damn, calm down... Jesus... I don't know what I just did to deserve that outburst. My God, have you been drinking? jaykay jaykay ^_^ Srz though, how did I make you more aware? And you know, Marbella, I love you, you're so loved here -- but Pinko, Marbella was the one being all fierce. She was like whoa. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:23:20 Unfortunately, she has yet to take her clothes off, as we both asked... no, demanded. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:23:36 Thank God someone started posting, I was going crazy... these last 20 minutes. And yeah, someone pointed out that it had electricity running, too. And it was unlocked, had no security... but it did have a car going through its parkinglot. And if that helicopter was part of The Order -- you know, if you have enough money for zillions of helicopters, you'd think you could afford some fat bald dude sitting outside the door with a taser. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:25:38 I actually have been drinking, but it wasn't because of that, because I'm a loving drunk, not an angry one! ... but what made me aware was the fact that you responded so sensitively to her sharing something so personal with us. =P And I was all "bitch, I been abundantly clear." by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:26:20 I have to say, Cassie does kind of scare the hell out of me without her wig on. I sort of wanted it back on. She's creepier than shit without it. Plus, rubbing her face around and crap. That was f-kin' freaky. I didn't like the lighting, either. Her eyes and everything... she looked like the girl from The Ring. Thankfully, the idiotic stills of Bree kept me pretty calm. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:27:44 I just didn't want her to direct any of that shit toward me. Woman meant biznass, yo. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:28:29 I mean, I thought about that before, but I watched the video again for the hell of it, and it's just so ridiculously clear that the place isn't abandoned. What was it he was supposed to have heard at the end? I always seem to actually watch the videos late at night with someone else passed out in a room with me. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:29:59 I wish she had used the screen shot of bree from mofun's video about trusting Jonas. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:31:21 #869 PinkoLady Thank you for clarifying that :) None the less, I hope you found the material worth while :) #870 Jackie LOL @ your comment! And yeah, this marathon is proving itself worthy! As mentioned earlier, I will post relevant/intersting finds. Once I reach the end, I will post a detailed timeline, including refernces of what I've documented and consider useful information! by Alexi on 2006-12-23 03:34:04 HA, I was thinking about MoFun's stills too. Maybe Cassie IS MoFun. Maybe MoFun has split personalities! And I think he was hearing Buddhist chanting at the end. P.S. Why do you have passed out people in your room? You being a ho, Pinko. Tsk. You better just be planning to shove them in your freezer or beneath your mattress. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:35:41 Wait, so Alexi, since you've watched all the videos, you've noticed that P.Monkey had a sex change too, right? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:37:28 I'm going to eat them for dinner, duh. Yeah, whole. Itscassie's not the only girl with a hearty appetite. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:39:48 #886 PinkoLady I am only up to video 44 thus far, however you ask the question RE: P-Monkeys gender at a time during my marathon that I can actually provide you with a factual answer. (please see reference below - found on LG15pedia) ******************************************** In LonesomeOctober's videos, P-monkey is a he, though this probably has more to do with the author's sex than P-monkey's, as Bree has referred to it as both "she" and "he". http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LonesomeOctober ******************************************* I hope this helps :) See, this marathon is working in our favor of all of us :) by Alexi on 2006-12-23 03:45:45 Bree is one confused little lollypop. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 03:47:47 OOPS! Typo!! I meant to say, "This marathon is working in favor of us all"... Hopefully by the end of this marathon, I will be a walking, talking LG15pedia :) by Alexi on 2006-12-23 03:48:05 Okay, so I have this theory. Apparently Epogen is used to increase a body's productivity of red blood cells... so do you think the ceremony was supposed have her, like, bleeding a lot or something? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:49:03 Here's some information on it: http://www.epogen.com/ by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 03:53:47 Pinko: GREAT theory! My other thoughts are this: Maybe they wanted her PREGNANT. Pregnant women often get anemia. Maybe The Order wanted her to get pregnant? omgomg, a VIRGIN sacrifice? Didn't she talk about a purity bond or something? by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:03:49 #893 Jackie Bree says: (video 40) "I told them everything. They said that I had violated my purity bond and that I shouldn't be allowed to do the ceremony." http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=My_Difficult_Decision by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:09:22 omgomgomg, there was a ceremony? by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:09:58 Hmm, interesting. But it's also a performance enhancer right? They might be trying to turn her into a magical racehorse, or something, or an extreme badminton player. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 04:10:32 #892 PinkoLady Possibility! Once I am better informed, I can share my thoughts on this subject :) by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:10:39 896: I think LG15 might be fake. Maybe it's an advertising scheme.... by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:12:43 BREE, I THINK DANIEL LIKES YOU! by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:14:01 Anyone think Gemma might be a part of The Order? by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:14:41 #898 Jackie The fakers are fake! LOL by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:14:58 Seriously, if someone doesn't post soon, I won't stop. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:15:06 LOL, Daniel is so hardcore, I love it. I mean, I know there's a potentially massive organization chasing him and his best friend to some unholy end, and the police are probably in on it, but I CAN'T believe he's breaking the law!!! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 04:17:40 THEORY: I think The Order wants Bree to turn into a unicorn. I think Epogen is to morph her into one. Unicorns often have anemia. Here's what I found: "When the last eagle flies, over the last crumbling mountain And the last lion roars, at the last dusty fountain In the shadow of the forest, though she may be old and worn They will stare unbelieving At the last unicorn When the first breath of winter, through the flowers is icing And you look to the north, and a pale moon is rising And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn In the distance hear her laughter Its the last unicorn I'm alive, I'm alive When the last moon is cast, over the last star of morning And the future is past, without even a last desperate warning Then look into the sky where through, the clouds a path is formed Look and see her how she shimmers, its the last unicorn I'm alive, I'm alive" ICE? WINTER? I'M ALIVE? I think it might be about Cassie :o by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:17:43 #898 Jackie LG15 certainly has the potential to venture into some sort of marketing/advertising scheme. It depends on the financial position of the LG15 project and how far they are willing to go to keep afloat. My 2 cents :) by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:19:38 I think Gemma and Bree are both played by jessica rose. See how gemma's lips are clearly those giant-ass candy lips that are popular around Valentine's Day? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 04:19:56 904: Oh my god, I'm dying, that was too hilarious. Also I love the last unicorn... by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 04:21:43 I think I'm Gemma. Notice how we both have blue eyes and dark hair? And we're both really named Jackie. Shit. I hope I'm not. That would suck. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:22:46 Oh my god, you ARE Gemma! Remember that one time I called you and told you I was being held hostage by some madman dressed like Nixon, and you told me that story about Timmy who put paste in your hair in second grade as a metaphor for how the kidnapper really just had a crush on me? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 04:26:14 I THINK I MIGHT BE ONTO SOMETHING ABOUT THE UNICORN THING! Unicorn root (chamaelirium luteum) (helonias diocia) (aletris farinosa) Chamaelirium the �false unicorn root' is used to enhance fertility. [!!!!] Many female problems are addressed by it especially when there is a sensation of dragging in the abdomen, irregular menstruation, miscarriage, and morning sickness. Aletris farinosa the true unicorn root prevents miscarriage. Simmer two teaspoons per cup of water for twenty minutes and take one fourth cup four times day. I use aletris farinosa (Stargrass, unicorn root) for anemia [!!!!] Unicorn root is an herb of protection for baby and mother. ------------ ANEMIA PREGNANCY That's it, they've been injecting Breenicorn with Unicorn root! by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:29:12 909: Shit, now that I know I'm Gemma, I think I'll start using some anti-aging products around my eyes and mouth.... by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:30:05 Jackie and PinkoLady, I need your help to recall something I remember reading recently but can't seem to trace?? Do either of you recall reading someone saying they recieved cryptic messages (not sure if they were ARG participants??) via email - however, their email addresses had not been disclosed, yet they were recieving messages via email pertaining to LG15 ARG. They were curious as to how their email addresses had been accessed? Had this issue been resolved? Did these people ever discover how their emails were accessed?? by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:30:12 Wow, I don't remember that at all. The most I remember is someone being kind of angry at refusetobelievelies and getting some creepy messages from her, although he wasn't in the top ten. Pinko: Check your notes, I beg of you by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:33:33 I meant to say, how it was, that their email addresses were collected, as they had not disclosed them, yet they recieved ARG messages. by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:33:57 Uhh, it was Jeff something. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 04:34:51 Thank you both - and correct me if I'm wrong, but did this person actually say he/she did not disclose their email address and wondered how their email was traced? by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:38:54 915 comments? meep by skookumchuks on 2006-12-23 04:40:14 And.... was this person apart of the ARG crew? Or was this person just an active watcher of LG15? by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:41:19 It was JeffParish, #266 under "Bree Phone Home." Apparently he had nothing to do with the ARG, and I don't think he ever figured out how/why it was sent to him. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 04:42:35 Wow, poor Jeff. That's creepy as hell. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:45:50 I think Hot Pockets should rename their product to Pockets of Boiling Lava. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:53:08 #919 PinkoLady Thank you for the detailed response. Greatly appreciated :) by Alexi on 2006-12-23 04:54:43 Reading the comments that have been written since I went to bed last night I finally have a reason to stay away from this board as much as possible over the holidays. Thank you for helping to end my addiction with these boards. by Dream on 2006-12-23 04:55:42 Yike. by Jackie on 2006-12-23 04:59:40 PinkoLady, OK, I just viewed JeffParish comment #266 and I am now beginning to recollect, as it happen to be this exact puzzle that made me want to learn more about ARG. Over the last couple of days, I have been actively learning how to utilise the ARG tools on the ARG page on LG15pedia and learn more about decoding etc. OK, so where I am going with this??? I have recieved what I believe is an ARG related email. Yet, I am not an official member of the Cypher Crew or the ARG crew and I have certainly not disclosed my personal email address to any member on this board. Hence, why I wanted to first get a second opinion on the whole JeffParish situation, as when I first noticed the suspicious email, I suddenly remembered a similar occurance happening to someone else, but couldn't remember who, but now, thanks to you, you've confirmed it to be JeffParish. Paranoid by nature, I didn't want to announce the email I've recieved here on the comment board, as I am now weary of who is tracing my activity. So, without being dramatic about it, I will hold my composure, and simply say to the person who is orchestrating this game, well done! Let the games begin! by Alexi on 2006-12-23 05:14:51 Woah, Alexi, really? That's nuts... I'm going to bed, but if you want help with anything, feel free to PM. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 05:18:24 Jackie: When the creators confirm your breenicorn theory, we'll have the last laugh. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 05:19:23 Critical thinking: I will no longer be posting on these boards. Up until recieving this email I speak of in my previous post (#925), I was happy to participate and interact within the LG15 community at my own will. Recieving this email is a violation, in my opinion, and admittedly I'm kinda creeped out by the whole thing. To those of you who think I'm being dramatic, let me shed some light on this situation. Someone has obviously hacked my computer to access my personal email address. Nothing against LG15 creators or actors and those of you on this board who I have had much pleasure interacting with on this board (you all know who you are). I will most definitely remain a loyal viewer, however, this is my last interaction within this board. The saying is true, "Trust, no one". Safe holidays to you all. I'm out! by Alexi on 2006-12-23 05:34:14 Good Morning, The only thing I wanted to add is that in many Native American festivals, such as the Sundance festivals, blood sacrifices or small "pieces of skin" are offered during ceremony. I've never heard of anything like this as related to Thelemites, etc., but then again, she is with an "order" of it that no one knows much about. by Marbella on 2006-12-23 06:10:21 Alexi, I'm sorry you weren't be participating anymore. Like you, I've received plenty of unwanted mail related to this board and the RPG. It's just that I haven't let it get to me. Dream, I'm sorry if you stop posting, also. I read through the posts since last night about Gemmas and unicorns and felt a similar feeling. I cannot believe we haven't heard from Lizard at all on this whole page and that she hasn't answered my email!! #265-Cuyler--If someone were chosen for one particular role does not necessarily mean that person is privy to all the confidential info about a series. Besides, if they were, they would have to sign a non-disclosure agreement, as Bree and Daniel did. I don't think Holly is the problem as much as the dates on the videos, which may have indicated that our input meant nothing anyway. Of course, I've emailed and been emailed by a dozen people who are very split on the issue. So, blaming Holly or lauding Holly with credit for inside information (either one) would be a waste of time, I think. by Marbella on 2006-12-23 06:27:40 Epogen may cause seizures. by ThatxWeirdxKid on 2006-12-23 07:02:34 I'm waiting for Gemma to post a video saying Jonas is not trustworthy! With video of him and his watcher's tatoo by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 07:54:40 hey there ppl, i just woke up and had some lunch, and now i'm back into business :P so...no new video eh? and there has been any orange attacks? :\ #896 the order wants to turn bree into an extreme orange collecter :O by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-23 07:59:20 #932 Sim7Lizard-- Don't hold your breath! Remember, Gemma is with the Order. Confirmed. It's been confirmed by Daniel, Nikki Bower, Jonas (and no, I don't trust him either,) and OpAphid. All have posted videos showing Gemma walking with Lucy in different settings and situations. Even if Gemma did post a video about Jonas, it wouldn't mean anything. by Marbella on 2006-12-23 09:05:48 oops.. I don't think it was OpAphid's vid.. It was one of CalamityGuillotine's, I think. Anyway, I've seen several videos with the same evidence but in different scenarios. by Marbella on 2006-12-23 09:07:38 Maybe she was doing it on purpose to lead Lucy to a wrong direction! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 09:09:52 I wonder how they got into a building like that...or even how the creators asked for permission or whatever of a company. and obviously they made up that weird sign thing, so they must've used up a lot of boxes for that thing. I didn't know they're THAT rich! by Lupus on 2006-12-23 09:47:31 Lupus: Considering the growing popularity of LG15 (at the very least, it inspired and episode of law and order!), I understand having sufficient funds, at least to get a bunch of boxes and the use of a building like that... but I'm definitely surprised by their using a real drug in the production, and everything that that entails. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 09:57:38 Whether that entails endorsment from the company, or potential for suit, or whatever... I mean, they had a good deal of it, so I'm sure the latter doesn't apply. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 10:02:18 Alexi: Dude, I'm really sorry your privacy was violated like that, it's going to be a real shame not to have you here anymore. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 10:04:20 #938 pinko i didnt knew about that episode :o do you know the title of the episode? :\ by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-23 10:23:36 anyone wanna work on guilltoincalamity stuff with me??? i decoded the description it gave me an email simonsayssister@gmail.com but now ive hit a dead end help? by sydney on 2006-12-23 10:31:38 I'm pretty sure it was called "Weeping Willow" "Law & Order: Criminal Intent did a cyber-kidnapping episode last night (Nov. 28) complete with a lonelygirlesque character. You see, in the Law & Order world there’s a site called YouLenz featuring a popular vlogger “weepingwillow17″ (played by Michelle Trachtenberg). They even mentioned craigslist and set up freewillow17.com." The character of willow had a good number of similarities and nods to Bree's charcter, though the the whole story was kind of weird. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 10:34:06 I usually don't post, but two night in a row I've dreamt about the "Breeniverse". Last night the series was finished. It ended like Daniel and his friends Paul and whatsherface were in a field.. and they saw Bree hiding. she yelled at them to help her. and these two LARGE men were standing there. Daniel went and got her and they all four snuck off. That was the end.. yeah. lol. Then the two actors that played Daniel and Bree came back to my school, which had been shifted in my dream state to look like the Mean Girls set, and hung out with us. I asked Bree questions like "Seeing how popular you are on the internet, with people of all ages, what's going to happen when your career moves on and you're gonna star in like one of those shitty horror films that all back actresses go on?" (which makes like no sense) She laughed. As i kept asking her these retarded but funny questions, my friend asked the Danielbeast out, and he said he was MARRIED to Jessica Rose. Then Jessica got up and I talked to him alot, just making him laugh, cause I'm good at making people laugh. Then I said this, exactly "You know the video where you have a box of cereal, and it like dances on the table? I noticed they were organic or something. Are you a vegetarian?" He laughed and said Jessica was. Then I was like "Soo.. do you have Jonas' number?" lol!! Then my mom woke me up.. Everything came from things discussed on this website. There has been mention of Mean Girls. There has been alot of discussion on Vegetarianism. There was a broken orange elevator in the school.. that shut me in it's door! EVIL!! That's why we had to take the stairs.. that's when I noticed we were on the Mean Girls set. lol. OH! I also asked her if the rumor was true that she was taking the place of Regina on Mean Girls 3! Yeah, 3. So messed up. The dancing box of cereal was because I watched GiR2007's newest video before I went to bed. lol. Okay, this is one long comment. So yeah, hope you guys enjoy what fills my nighttime sleep. Maybe I'll quit dreaming of it after this. lol! by sarcasticlive on 2006-12-23 10:35:09 Ha, check out the stuffed monkey on freewillow17.com by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 10:37:51 Woah, I didn't know Law and Order made like 5 extra happy-go-lucky lonelygirl15 type videos aside from the kidnapping stuff. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 10:44:11 Didn't we have to put down our e-mails when registering on this site, Alexi? I might be wrong but I thought we did...usually when you sign up for something with your e-mail it's pretty much fair game. #875 Pinko--Couldn't the Order have been following Daniel even though he found the cameras in his room? I mean, if they were finding ways to find him and Bree when they were out on the road all the time, I'm sure they would be like "Oh, he just smashed out the cameras in his room" and the Watchers waiting outside his house would follow him from then on. And before Daniel went into the warehouse, he saw a car and a helicopter. I don't think they would randomly show a helicopter (though who knows sometimes?!). So basically what I'm getting at is, maybe the whole warehouse WASN'T abandoned, and since they knew Daniel was coming, the whole thing was staged. Maybe they saw him headed toward the first warehouse and knew he was coming for the second? I just have a creepy feeling that all the lights *conveniently* came on and the place came to life just when Daniel started rummaging. At least that's what I'm thinking! by shiggs on 2006-12-23 10:45:00 Yeah, I definitely considered the possibility that they left him find the Epogen... but to what end? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 10:48:51 To throw him off? Epogen has nothing to do with it? Or something else? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 10:50:02 I can't take the freewillow vids seriously either, when the star is the girl from Ice Princess! :) by shiggs on 2006-12-23 10:50:46 Maybe they didn't exactly clean the whole place out and the Epogen was there anyway? Hm. Question: Are we to assume that Daniel never watches the OpAphid vids and OpAphid never watches any of these? Because wouldn't it be easy for the Order to get the tip that Daniel was going to be looking through boxes with the infinity symbol...? That's always bothered me about these. The fact that Daniel can see the Tachyon stuff but not the cameras in his room. But I agree...why throw Epogen in the mix if it was a stage? It definitely makes sense that it would be staged, but unless they accidentally left the Epogen around (wouldn't it be hard to hide it all anyway? How could they figure he'd go in that ONE closet?), it's all loose ends. But, hey, that's the Creators' specialty! :) by shiggs on 2006-12-23 10:54:57 #128 alexi I hope you are still monitoring this site. Email sites are about all free now and I have a bunch so I can let different people know different addresses. I have one address that I use just for signing up for things that require you put down an address, such as this site. That site now gets about 80 junk mails a day from all over, but I never read any of it. You just need to set up one of these trash can addresses and then log back in here under a different user name. I hope you get this. by Jack on 2006-12-23 11:12:22 #943 thank you very much pinko ^_~ by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-23 11:13:52 951. Shiggs: In "Homeless" he mentions that Tachyon messaged him, and then in "Undisclosed Location" he refers to a Tachyon drop, not video-- I'm not sure which drop he was referring to exactly, since I'm not active in the ARG-- but I'm not sure he does watch her channel any more than he does OpAphid's (which he clearly doesn't). by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:19:29 Gnome #854, The ending will be irony. Because they need the iron for Bree to survive for the sequel. Sydnet #942, Did you send an email to that address? by Joe on 2006-12-23 11:21:23 ah, alright! That's what I thought but I wasn't sure. Thanks a bunch! by shiggs on 2006-12-23 11:21:35 Is Alexi getting emails or just posting about when JeffParish was getting them? by Joe on 2006-12-23 11:25:35 952 and 947: Even if you register to a site with an email address, if you choose to keep your email private no one but the site admin would see it-- and so, I don't think Alexi would care if they were emails from Lonelygirl15.com rather than cryptic messages from random addresses. What bothers Alexi, I think, is not that he's getting emails but rather that he's getting emails from unauthorized source that who should have had no legitimate of finding out his email. So this person either did extensive research (creepy) or hacked (creepier), or so I gather is Alexi's problem with this situation. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:25:43 that thing of freewillow it's so fake xD and that cut off ear, it's obviously made of plastic/rubber XD by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-23 11:27:26 Alexi said she started getting emails and it freaked her out to where she was never going to post here again. I see that I put her msg # as 128 instead of the correct 928. by Jack on 2006-12-23 11:28:41 #955 Joe: Oh man, you ROCKED that pun... I love it. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:29:24 wow. i havent posted in like foreverrr basically ive just been sitting back and enjoying the videos, trying to lessen my lonelycrack addiction because im going on vacation to another state for a week. just wanted to say hi so people wouldnt get worried =) which you probably wouldnt i tend to get worried about people a lot more than they get worried about me. but just fyi, i have NOT been captured by the orange cult. OMG THE ORANGE CULT THE O.C. bum bum bummm by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:32:33 If we don't get a new video this afternoon, I think it's safe to assume we won't get one until Tuesday. I wanted to see Bree and Jonas decorating a Christmas tree and Jonas giving Bree some interesting (but incorrect) fact about when a tree can be declared missing. by Joe on 2006-12-23 11:33:07 We want a NEW VIDEO!!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:34:57 so if the orange cult = the O.C. ...does that mean that daniel is going to drive bree off of a cliff? by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:34:59 I hardly ever post, cuz I have some sort of setting wrong, I think, but I'm at someone else's computer. I have 2 observations. 1) What are the withdrawl effects of Epogen? If she was receiving the medication regularly, could she be dependant? Maybe that's why she was so spacey with the stuffed animals or something. 2) From a few videos back, when Daniel went to search Bree's empty house. When he pans out the window and looks at the street, all the bushes are like, pushed over into the street. Its very pronounced, at every lot on the street, the bushes pile out into the road. I don't know if that is something that is normal in California, but I've never seen it in the midwest, so it stuck out to me. And, it was more prominent than any people walking up and down the road. Sorry if people have alreay noticed these things. Merry Christmas! by Rebecca on 2006-12-23 11:35:04 Hmm, I just realized that I have no clue of Alexi's gender, but I was under the impression that Alexi was generally a male name. If I'm wrong, sorry about that! by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:35:51 OH HEY MAYBE I CAN BE 1000TH COMMENT ON THIS VIDEO ...since someone stole it from me that last time *grr* wish me luck! by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:36:12 If we don t get a new video in the next 29 seconds we will send millions of Orange slurpee over your house! They will melt down the roof and attack you untill you surender! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:37:15 sim7lizard over......*sniff*.....MY house???? by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:37:58 Hey Pinko! Long time no see! You wanna race for the 1000th? by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:38:16 um i think i shalt be 1000th *sim7lizard you have already had your turn. sit back and chillax for a bit, eh?* hehe! my dog just walked underneath my chair and tickled my foot with his nose :) by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:39:31 No grace over the Producers-guys-whatever-how they-are-called! house by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:39:31 oh ok. by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:39:52 Oh, it's mine. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:40:03 Go by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:40:46 Sorry Grace but I have no choice! I was put on earth to be the 1000th comments in Lonelygirl15 forum! How sad!!!! LOL by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:41:27 100th....will....be.....mine....AT LAAAST *evil cackle* by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:41:36 Grace, We were worried, many OSC members have disappeared. We thought the oranges finally had enough with us and decided to take action. Just to make sure it's not an orange slurpee posting as you. Post again and say nasty, hurtfull things about oranges. by Joe on 2006-12-23 11:42:17 Tag, You're It. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:42:25 Pffff you guys have no chance in hell!!! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:42:30 I'm watching. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:42:57 lol @ Grace #978! Hon if you re running for 100th YOU RE LATE!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:43:36 joe i just did i dont know if i did it right though your supposed to either "knock once" and give your ID and ADDRESS, "knock twice" and say "little sister, been a long time since i play with dolls", or "knock thrice" and say the password...another video i saw that seemed to be connected to GC said to pick the "knock thrice" so i did and guessed that the password was "die" (although i doubt its correct) since the title of the video was Moirir which is "to die" in latin by sydney on 2006-12-23 11:43:42 Do you know where your parents are? I have them, and they're going to be my dinner. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:43:48 ORANGES SUCK ORANGES ARE BAD ORANGES ARE REALLY BAD i dont really feel like swearing today :) by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:43:53 Hey have you ever thought that Daniel is a criminal with all his B&E He ll go in jail soon! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:44:36 pinkolady....i DO know where my parents are, actually. thanks for checking up. by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:45:26 is this 1000th by Jack on 2006-12-23 11:45:33 Wow Pinko! You re becoming dark!!! What happened to my joyfull Indian friend! You're scaring me! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:45:42 1000TH, I'll step down on this round. Grace good luck. If it's really you. by Joe on 2006-12-23 11:45:58 ohhh man almosttt there... cmon cmon *bouncing anxiously in chair* by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:46:17 NO but this is 995! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:46:23 I WILL WIN 1000TH I PROMISE by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:46:55 OOOOHHHH YEAH!!!!!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:47:05 Woooooooo!!!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:48:05 grace and joe! we have 3 members of OSC here together at once? i think we need to put together a mission in the LG defense force to recover all OSC members from orange-encapturement (is that a word?) by sydney on 2006-12-23 11:48:10 1000th maybe or am i early by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:48:19 1000! by sydney on 2006-12-23 11:48:26 1000TH WOOHOOO by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:48:36 and here come the 100th comments! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:48:36 Sydney: Is the fuzzy backwards writing what told you to knock thrice? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:48:56 Wow Grace!!! Finallly!!!!! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 11:49:13 YES I WIN HAHAHAHA *sticks out tongue* told you! *crying with joy* finally! the planets have aligned! i have fulfilled my true destiny! by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:49:19 Sydney, maybe the knock one, twice, etc... is the order of the email. The first email you do this, the second you do that. After you send them three emails sending the correct thing they will reply back. No? Grace, Good enough. It's a well known fact that oranges can not say bad things about themselves. by Joe on 2006-12-23 11:50:55 Ugh, quoting itscassie like, I don't know why I did it-- I have to wash my hands of the "eating parents" thing--- for anyone who doesn't know, I can't take credit for that jewel, that's all "itscassie." by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:51:15 ok just watched the video agian it looks EXACTLY like where we go to drop off our storage stuff *gulp* by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:55:33 gz grace ^^ i got the 100th comment :P Jo by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-23 11:55:52 Congrats Grace. Sydney, We need to break into a warehouse and free the missing OSC members from orange-encapturement(it's a word now). It's really easy, you wait for a car to come out, walk around a wall that apparently surves no purpose but to give you the ability to hide while sneaking into the place. Go into an elevator, push a button any button. Walk around for a while and then we'll find the the room with everyone. It should take about 2 min. and 33 sec. by Joe on 2006-12-23 11:57:16 And if the fuzzy mixed up writing (I don't know why I said backwards earlier...) is not what told you to pick "knock thrice," do you know what it says? by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 11:57:20 im getting borrreddd lets play a game! someone try to guess my name (duh), skin color, hair color, hair length, eye color, height, etc. someone did this to me once and got pretty damn close by Grace on 2006-12-23 11:57:52 Okay I have to go buy wrapping paper. Which will probably require me to kill someone to get the last role on the shelf. Wish me luck. Here's hoping there's a new video when I get back. by Joe on 2006-12-23 12:00:52 joe, 1. good luck 2. there won't be by Grace on 2006-12-23 12:01:53 im really sad everyone has left me all alone with my lonelycrack by Grace on 2006-12-23 12:03:57 Grace you re blond hair grey eyes! You hair go to to a bit above your shoulder and your 5'6" 107 lbs by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 12:09:13 Ok Grace #1011 I would say you have olive skin tone, dark hair, dark eyes, shoulder length hair and are about 5 feet tall. by gnome on 2006-12-23 12:09:55 omg are you kidding thats a *little* offff well WAYYY off actually but good try :) by Grace on 2006-12-23 12:10:34 gnome is closer by Grace on 2006-12-23 12:10:55 ok so gnome is right except for skin tone and hair length also im taller than 5 feet but not all that much by Grace on 2006-12-23 12:11:44 What in the name of Christmas is with the lack of no video? Oh wait.... It would be nice if we wake up Christmas morning, went to the site and found a brand new video. *HINT* *HINT* We don't even have a new Tachyon or OpAphid video yet!! Are they waiting for 2000 comments or something? by gnome on 2006-12-23 12:13:32 Ok, my second guess would have been African-American. by gnome on 2006-12-23 12:15:04 5'2" and very white! Hair butt lenght by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 12:17:05 ok....so i was getting bored around here and i was searching for somethings about lg15 (or trying to figure out some stuff) and this cant be the actual "order" right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis well, it's an order and it's related to crowley...although i dont think the creators would use a real "organization" although, there is a book of an ex-member, i havent read it but it may have some stuff http://www.biroco.com/kaos/lodge.pdf this stuff probably was already posted here a million times but, oh well, i'm bored :| by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-23 12:20:44 #853-Gnome--I'm not sure if it will work twice! #864-Pinkolady--DELUSIONALLY was the word I didn't catch. You are completely correct that delusionally playing with toys is completely non-characteristic of adult autism. However, having strong feelings for inanimate objects (including stuffed animals) is pretty typical for us. I didn't think you were a bitch, by the way. by Marbella on 2006-12-23 12:21:01 um ok gnome NOT african american and i shouldnt have lied. my hair and eyes arent 'dark' they are boring brown. i just wish they were darker. by Grace on 2006-12-23 12:22:02 and sim7lizard...taller than 5'2. not VERY white, im not a ghost. and i wish my hair was that long (its not though) by Grace on 2006-12-23 12:23:49 #871-Jackie-Hey, thanks! On MySpace, I've been writing a series of blogs on the subject, if you're interested: http://www.myspace.com/whitetigerdream by Marbella on 2006-12-23 12:24:29 Ok so let me rephrase! Your name is Grace you're 5'4" You are fair skinned, you have brown hair that goes down to half your back and brown eyes. You re 19 and you are a size 6 . 36b-25-37 by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 12:27:10 942-Sydney-GuillotineCalamity makes some good videos. I can't dedicate much time to research with you on them, 'cause I have so many other priorities right now, unfortunately. by Marbella on 2006-12-23 12:27:26 lmao by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 12:28:08 omg #1027 holy crap good job only im not 19 by Grace on 2006-12-23 12:29:12 sorry Grace #1024, I thought Grace was a common name amoung African-American (especially Southern Baptists) by gnome on 2006-12-23 12:30:49 #871--Jackie--Sorry to hear you've had to deal with PTSD. I just forgot to mention that earlier. I've dealt with that also, but my autism has always been primary. With autism/asperger's, everyday life can be traumatic~ and I'm not joking!! by Marbella on 2006-12-23 12:31:17 DARN!!!! ALMOST! by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 12:32:48 where did my post go? O_O by Jo_16_2 on 2006-12-23 12:34:17 Wow! Grace did you ran away because I embarassed you? by Sim7lizard on 2006-12-23 12:41:53 ha i finally watched the law and order episode it was pretty good but ive seen way better episodes of the show mkay so pinko u asked where i found out i should pick knock thrice. It was a different username...i think itgor, irgot, something like that, anyways she has two videos, the one i got the knock thrice thing from was called "the red candle"...its in the description part...and she calls herself marie antoinette (ahem...guillotine) by sydney on 2006-12-23 12:42:22 NEW VIDEO! by sydney on 2006-12-23 12:43:12 its called "mystery movies"....daniels doing all the dirty work and brees off skateboarding and watching movies??? by sydney on 2006-12-23 12:44:27 1023: Hah, I'm glad you didn't think so, tone is hard to convey online. Someone guess my height. by PinkoLady on 2006-12-23 12:49:08 anyone who wants info on the pills, go to this site, it has everything! http://www.medicinenet.com/epoetin_alfa/article.htm by directorintraining on 2006-12-23 14:52:17 Hahahahaha i love the music with this one. It goes perfectly. by Cherry on 2006-12-23 21:34:18 I don't know if anyone else has notices but in a few videos, such as this one and the other daniel video where he breaks into that girls house(so sorry, I forget her name), they both have helicopters in the background. It could be a watcher.*shrugs* by bbandits891 on 2006-12-24 06:49:00 I looked up Epogen on the net. EPOGEN® is usually given up to 3 times a week for patients on hemodialysis. It may be put right into the dialysis tubing during a dialysis treatment (intravenous or IV) or as an injection under the skin (subcutaneous or sub-Q). This is pretty easy to do.... Just about anyone could watch a nurse a time or two and figure it out (just get between the skin and the muscle, easily done at home). Seems like the idea about someone trying to "bleed her would be unlikely, as Epogen side effects include increase in clotting.... This makes drawing blood more difficult, as the blood can actually clot in the needle..... I think there is probably more to it. Side note.... it's an anemia medication... another side effect is that "it is also possible that your body may make antibodies against EPOGEN®. Antibodies can block or reduce your body’s ability to make red blood cells, causing severe anemia. A medication for anemia that may cause anemia?? by rockcop128 on 2006-12-26 17:57:48 Lots of medications have side-effects in some people that produce opposite effects.It's not that abnormal. by Marbella on 2007-01-17 09:29:21 EPOGEN INJ USES This medication is used to treat anemia (low red blood cell count) in people with long-term serious kidney disease (chronic renal failure), people receiving zidovudine to treat HIV, and people receiving chemotherapy drugs for some types of cancer (non-myeloid cancers). It may also be used in anemic patients to reduce the need for blood transfusions before certain planned surgeries that have a high risk of blood loss. Epoetin alfa helps to reverse anemia and improves your energy and activity level, sense of well-being, and overall health. It works by signaling the bone marrow to make more red blood cells. This medication is very similar to the natural substance in your body (erythropoietin) that prevents anemia. by kdzbabee on 2007-05-09 11:47:33 this would be so much better if the music was the mission impossible theme................. by summre on 2007-08-02 20:59:22 the sideways 8 symbol means infinity. everybody knows that. by fallenangel81 on 2007-08-31 10:53:04 ok, i know its mean, but Daniel's face bothers me sooo much!!!!!!!!! his expressions...and just his looks. i hate very video if hes in it. grrrr . by kira902k on 2007-09-13 11:59:19 SICK VIDEO :) by reomaru on 2008-06-15 10:57:34 daniels videos make me dizzy. he moves the camera around wat too much lol by funsized717 on 2008-06-28 15:52:00 |