| FIRST!!! by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:11:04 Daniel! by XxPrissy_GirlxX on 2006-12-11 11:11:27 FIIRSTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!! by Georgia on 2006-12-11 11:12:25 SECOND! by JoAnnP38 on 2006-12-11 11:12:27 WOW by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 11:12:28 top 10! by lousiethrill on 2006-12-11 11:13:06 OH MY GOD IM IN THE TOP FIVE...I LOVE MYSELF>>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 11:13:08 thank god! by cacacarkeys on 2006-12-11 11:14:24 WE WILL NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN! by starfly2 on 2006-12-11 11:14:33 omg its so sad :( by kellylen on 2006-12-11 11:15:03 I didn't expect that. by JoAnnP38 on 2006-12-11 11:15:13 He's home! Wooo!!! by Anto687 on 2006-12-11 11:15:13 fi111111111rst-ish! by physphile on 2006-12-11 11:15:16 Daniel's a punk. by lousiethrill on 2006-12-11 11:15:42 CUTE!!!! by plexplex on 2006-12-11 11:15:45 WANKER!! SHE EAT OUT OF THE BIN AND YOU HAD MONEY to buy sweets and comics!?????? lots of swear words aimed at Daniel He can go *naughty word* himself after that video. Hope that's the last we see of the selfish poo by Georgia on 2006-12-11 11:15:52 Well that was boring. by viewedbyghost on 2006-12-11 11:16:06 top ten? by eno on 2006-12-11 11:16:11 Daniel looks clean! by butterfly on 2006-12-11 11:16:21 aww..daniel looks so cute in this vid ((HUGS DANIEL))....*sighs*...Anywho..I was really surprised.. by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 11:16:23 wow! he really ditched her! by Storyteller on 2006-12-11 11:16:46 Hmmm. So, Daniel's parents were there the whole time, and didn't notice the OpAphid cameras installed in their house? I'm suspicious of his parents now. by Traegorn on 2006-12-11 11:16:46 yay!!! new video. by Ennovi on 2006-12-11 11:17:09 =)=) by yaayy on 2006-12-11 11:17:13 Daniel, you are a douche. You left Bree alone with some random guy, yet are convinced that she is safe...and still claim to care about her...and you stowed away on a train with a random old guy. I am disgusted. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:17:20 BILLIONTH! by Sister on 2006-12-11 11:17:30 he was about to say "bree I still love you..." but he stopped himself and said "I still care about you!!" by cacacarkeys on 2006-12-11 11:17:35 uggh that sucked! by Nat on 2006-12-11 11:17:37 Ha ha! Politics and sex worked! Awesome. by SaraMel15 on 2006-12-11 11:17:50 Hey...Joe, one of your options for "What does Daniel do when he gets home" was right! He took a looooong shower. I'm kind of creeped out right now...*gasp* Holly isn't the plant...Joe is!!!! AHHHHHHH! by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:19:06 Thats a nice long vid about hoppin trains. WEIRD! by supasamurai on 2006-12-11 11:19:20 nothing much happened by mich on 2006-12-11 11:19:20 first!!!!!!!!!!! Great video!!! Even though, he didn't say it..We can tell that Daniel loves Bree! I hope he tries to find her to make sure she is safe!!!!!!! by jaime on 2006-12-11 11:19:35 So if he trusts Jonas... why the heck didn't he go with him?!!! by Ennovi on 2006-12-11 11:19:35 FFFIIIIIRRRSTTSTTTTT!!!!!111!!!11!! Soldiers!! Keep up the great work!!! Our Home is back!! http://www.geocities.com/General_Firstsayer/ by General Firstsayer on 2006-12-11 11:20:10 NOT FIRST!!! Oh well. ;) So he's home... Whereeeesss the Breeeee?? by subucni_incubus on 2006-12-11 11:21:15 FFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!111!! lol Wow, I can't believe he just left her and went home. I thought for sure he would at least be sneaking around, checking up on Bree at Jonas's house. Maybe the homeless guy, Walter, is a watcher. Walter kinda sounds like Watcher. I want to see Bree. Is she ok now? by elliemae on 2006-12-11 11:22:07 he has abandoned bree to her fate. will he be written out now? will daniel come in at the last moment to save bree from jonas' machinations? will batman be able to elude the joker's sinister plot? ooops... got a little carried away there. by Lureman on 2006-12-11 11:22:12 oo hw cuutee! by Tessaroo on 2006-12-11 11:22:16 Well, that video made Daniel look like a total *ss!! I mean, he pretty much admitted that he left not because he was angry Bree didn't trust his gut feeling about Jonas, but because he was just looking for a way out. When he said, "Thank you Jonas for taking care of her"... thank you!!! thank you!!! You don't trust him as far as you can throw him, and then you thank him for "taking care of Bree." You mean for "taking her off my hands" you selfish jerk!! I bet it was an orange slurpee, not a twinkie you bought. Wow, all this waiting for a vid that advances the plot nowhere. Except making me dislike Daniel... And now if Gemma is evil, too!! I liked Gemma :) by physphile on 2006-12-11 11:22:24 Someone write the wiki!!!! by nobackspacebutton on 2006-12-11 11:22:59 ummm...thanks but no thanks Daniel! He almost said I Love You to Bree!! he he Isn't the order watchign his room? WHERE IS BREE??? Wierdness. by TherealLilly on 2006-12-11 11:22:59 FINALLY a video. by Jackie on 2006-12-11 11:23:13 i don't think he's completely out the plot.... i mean, he still lov...still CARES about bree. by stargirl on 2006-12-11 11:23:22 AWWWWW he almost said he loves her!! by subucni_incubus on 2006-12-11 11:23:28 He's sorry, but he left her all alone with Jonas! >:( I understand that he wants to feel just like a "normal person" and a normals life with a job and just "something to do", but how can he go on WITHOUT Bree? He misses her...He loves her (I just feel it... I know it.. :D ), but how could he do that to her? It seems as if he gave up their friendship and now feels sorry for that.. Daniel! Go and bring her home! NOW! You should do something! You can't "forget" what happened anyway... It's a tragedy...^^ by Sunnivah on 2006-12-11 11:23:39 YAY!!! finally by colera on 2006-12-11 11:23:45 I wonder when the hidden cameras will come into play... by Dutchess of Sassland on 2006-12-11 11:23:50 Damn it my intuition was wrong... Daniel is not stalking Jonas place. If you miss Bree so much, and still care. Then... RESCUE HER, or better yet, stay at Jonas's place so you can watch over her. You said it yourself that your parents did even notice you were gone.... Perhaps Gemma has hopped a train to come to visit Daniel and Bree ... yup you heard me right, there is an imaginary train that goes from England to the USA. It is sort of like the Polar Express. by Aidan on 2006-12-11 11:23:50 Daww.... I like Jonas better, though. by changingwaters on 2006-12-11 11:23:55 Oh. Like 10 people said that already. Well, at least we all know when and how to catch a train! by subucni_incubus on 2006-12-11 11:24:11 Forty-FIRSSSSSSTTTT? Daniels a tool.. by Stink on 2006-12-11 11:24:34 lol General Firstsayer!!!!1111!!!! I love the website. by elliemae on 2006-12-11 11:24:43 What a plank. I am seriously disappointed in you Daniel, I'm not sure what's annoyed me more - you hiding the money and then boasting online that you bought chocolate, or the fact that you dumped your mate with some random stranger. On the plus side thanks for posting this in my waking hours :) by kateeinuk on 2006-12-11 11:24:53 Politics? I got your politics! Socialism = LAME. I pay 58E/month for aDSL (not DSL, mind you) through TelecomItalia (the ONE phone company in Italy) and the new page takes 10 minutes to load! We need a free market DANGIT!!! by JenR on 2006-12-11 11:24:58 Oh my god. cutie. it almost made me cry :-( AND YEA DANIEL HOPPIN THE RAILS LIKE A HOBO by cookiecake on 2006-12-11 11:26:05 JenR, where are you from? Shall we send the General to liberate you? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:26:26 I would do the same if I was him... by Dutchess of Sassland on 2006-12-11 11:26:48 I like how he uses the "code" for train hopping, he's totally got STREET CRED now! LOL by Dutchess of Sassland on 2006-12-11 11:28:01 *kicks daniel in the shin* You stupid! You dont leave someone you l..lo... care about! Oh for gods sake.. by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-11 11:28:26 Good for hom...it's abouot time he dumped that broad...now how long until we find out that Joan-ass has skinned Bree, boiled the good parts made a belt out of her hair and a lampshade out of her skin by Slainte on 2006-12-11 11:29:12 Sorry 'bout this - but - Good for you Daniel! She wasn't listening and needs something else right now. Way to go! Get your life back! You turned it all upside down for her and she was extremely ungrateful. Maybe now Bree will apreciate what she had, now that you are gone. I hope Jonas will become as good a friend as you were. Maybe she will understand what he is doing for her. Everyone is making sacrifices for Bree and she hasn't even thanked anyone. She needs to be a bit more grateful or everyone will leave her on her own. And obviously she can't handle that. I hope Gas'n'eats takes you back! (or somewhere even better!) by kellyg on 2006-12-11 11:29:35 Okay, so he's home... but Cassie's new vid says he's in danger. Don't think we've seen the end of him just yet. by Perky on 2006-12-11 11:30:21 Oh, no no! The general's here. (Is that code for something?) I'm fully liberated and live on a compound...err.. American military base... in Italy. by JenR on 2006-12-11 11:30:22 top 100! woooo thats impressive considering the speed the comments are coming nowadays! salute to the general FFFIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!1!1!!111!!!!!!!!!! by midge on 2006-12-11 11:31:41 Yes, an easy way to give Daniel time off. I'm still worried about Bree. We've still not heard a word FROM her. Just Jonas. I suppose Jonas will appear trustworthy and not turn evil until Danial returns. We shall see.... by psueb on 2006-12-11 11:32:24 I can't believe he kept some extra $$ for himself. And he's lucky he didn't get picked up while he was hitchhiking...it would've been a scary guy in a suit. Does anyone know the music playing in the background? And also, I feel like I understand why Daniel is so screwed up...he has awful parents. And I hope he stays out of his bedroom. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:32:28 If you can listen to the video, please go to http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Back_Home and fill in the wiki so I-- WE can read it. We need to know Daniel's plans, but we can't listen to the video here at work... uh, HQ. by TheDeacons on 2006-12-11 11:33:04 ...is that chair in Daniel's room? Or is he filming in some other part of his house? If you ask me, it looks like a tacky hotel chair. Has Bree found a way to give Daniel money to fund a hotel stay when he's not staking out Jonas? Probably not. As I've said before, I suck at speculation. by SaraMel15 on 2006-12-11 11:33:13 DANIEL IS A SELLOUT! Dear Daniel, From a Girls perspective, it is going to take a whole lot more than you telling Bree you still care about her via vlog to regain her interest. The girl feels abandoned! She doesn't know where her parents are and the one true friend she has, LEAVES HER! You might as well have stabbed her in the back! GET OVER YOURSELF AND GO AND GET BREE YOU BIG CRY BABY! by Alexi on 2006-12-11 11:33:18 Wow. There were only fifty comments when I finally got the update e-mail. ^^ Awesome. That means I'm in the top 100. In other news, Awwwww! We all knew Daniel loved Bree, didn't we? Now he's regretting leaving her behind. I understand where he's coming from, though--if I were in his place, traveling from motel to motel to motel to--eventually--abandoned warehouse, helping to take care of my best friend who was being hunted down, basically getting dragged into something that I have absolutely no part in, aside from knowing my friend, I'd get burnt out, too. Hell, I'd probably leave, too, even though my best bud is the #1 best person on the face of the planet to me, and has been for five years. I'm sure he'll find a way to help her, to find her. Maybe he'll get in touch with Jonas. Now we just need a "Bree? Daniel? Oh, and this happened to me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.... Oh, and here's some random way to tie it to you two," vid from Gemma, then we can start really screaming for a Bree vid. ^^ by Chii-chan on 2006-12-11 11:34:41 "She needs a friend" -- yeah, because obviously you aren't one. You talk about how great it is to be home and everything, then you say you're sorry you left and you miss her? And thank Jonas for watching her, when you don't even trust him and have no idea what's going on with her?! by Jackie on 2006-12-11 11:35:44 he DEFINITELY almost said he loved her. daniel, what are you doing, man? i mean, like, what are you going to do? you just trusted this random guy, you don't have a car. i think you should go around brees house and see whats up. get her HOME. jonas is nice, but home is way better. her parents are still missing - you didn't leave for no reason. by alexisjulian on 2006-12-11 11:36:04 He almost said it!! sssoooo close. oh well... Yes, daniel, youre back to your digs. And Op Aphid will know shortly... THEN WHAT? Be careful and do your best to keep tabs with Bree. She isn't home "safe" like you. by kidlit on 2006-12-11 11:36:12 Eh. They're not done with him. He knows Big Brother's watching so he pretends to get back to life before the Order. by JenR on 2006-12-11 11:36:17 omg, omg, omg!!! by flowerpower on 2006-12-11 11:36:20 Ahhh, I get distracted looking at universities and all of a sudden....new vid! Typical. by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 11:36:32 66! :) need... more... lonelygirl... by deathstarpsycho on 2006-12-11 11:36:42 Ohhhhhh how sweeeet. Damn, he's cute here. So... vulnerable-looking when he talks directly to Bree. by dreamerose on 2006-12-11 11:37:38 Oh... and just a stupid, half-awake thought--Maybe Daniel will become like this "Walter" that he met, and when he's grown up, he'll take two months out of the year to hop trains! :P by Chii-chan on 2006-12-11 11:38:20 Maybe Daniel will be safe now...he's not helping Bree anymore, so will the order still want to kill him? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:38:31 I liked this video a lot! Nice resolution to being on the run. Daniel was cute & sweet in this video. I don't think he sucks for leaving Bree, he was worn out and didn't know what else to do. Bree is a big girl, she needs to learn to make some decisions on her own, whether they be good or bad. I can't wait until we get a video from Bree & Jonas. I hope Bree is crying over missing Daniel. Now, I hope that Jonas doesn't turn out bad. I hope he's an okay guy just trying to help out, but Daniel goes to pick Bree up because she misses him so much. Then I hope moments after Daniel & Bree take off that the Order kidnaps Jonas because they think he still has Bree. Then Daniel & Bree finally go to the police, Jonas is saved, Order arrested. I hope Gemma is either part of the Order or kidnapped along with Jonas. And her and Jonas get to know each other. Then....All is well! New storyline! by justagirl on 2006-12-11 11:38:36 If you look at the timing it was my threat of a scrunch vs fold war of words that brought the new video on. "trumpets triumphantly" Threats of toilet humour can move mountains. "Starts picking apart the images in the video to see if there is anything clue like" by Toad on 2006-12-11 11:39:36 WHAT IS HE THINKING???? What kind of freaking idiot leaves a 17 yo girl alone wiht a complete stranger??? What kind of friend is he??? I cannot believe that he would do that!!! Daniel!! I do not like you anymore!!! POOH on you!! by Storyteller on 2006-12-11 11:39:49 now that daniel is home, why doesn't he make up for what he did to bre and find her parents? by kristymarie03 on 2006-12-11 11:41:06 Aw, I love you guys. The video is up for exactly half an hour and we already have 100 comments...yay for lonelycrackheads. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:41:19 Top 100?! Whoa! by Angela on 2006-12-11 11:41:43 well, daniel seems to have so many attachments at home. can we predict what will happen within a few weeks? by milowent on 2006-12-11 11:42:30 I can't believe I forgot... FFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSTTTTTT!!!!!!!! *salutes* by Perky on 2006-12-11 11:42:31 I think we're all forgeting that he's supposed to be around the same age as bree. For story sake, he doesn't have that much common sense. Oh, by the way, did you notice that he almost said "I love you" ooooooh. he LUV's her. Loves, not diapers her. That would be weird. by bernard the grape on 2006-12-11 11:42:45 Is this Daniel Crazy?? What kind of man is he that when things go wrong he goes away? Well Bree, you have shelter here, there is a place in the Santa Catarina island that NO one can find you... and there is free phone calls and internet.. well is is 42 beaches, sun all over the year, blue ocean... just signal me at: enigma@k1.com.br by extremely_dangerous on 2006-12-11 11:42:46 Where's my refusetobelievelies message? I'm getting impatient. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:42:50 #83, Toad, I thought you were talking about socks...I'm a quick one! by SaraMel15 on 2006-12-11 11:43:07 Question- Was the "The Test" and "Your Decision" videos filmed before the VH1 big in 06 awards? Just wondering, bc Yousef got his hair cut short for that...yet in those last two videos it was long....meaning that it didn't matter what the fans' decision was bc the video had already been made. His hair is short in this video & he mentions the haircut, so seems like this is the first one post-awards show. Any thoughts? by justagirl on 2006-12-11 11:43:37 FFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRSTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!! by Dream on 2006-12-11 11:43:38 #86: ^^ I'm a crackhead? Heehee! First anime, now Lonelygirl! Wow! I'm so dependent! by Chii-chan on 2006-12-11 11:44:04 extremely_dangerous, are you in a witness protection program on that island? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:44:05 European-friendly upload time! Yay, Creators! I'm grateful! by Dream on 2006-12-11 11:44:14 Yes, it may be sucky that he left her, and that kinda makes him an ass, but I still got all mushy inside when he said he still lo... cared about her. That was sweet. Now he just needs to go back and get her! Or stay with her, whatever. :) by The Mighty Zan on 2006-12-11 11:44:53 101! by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:45:18 oops. or not. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 11:45:46 #94 justagirl...i was JUST thinking that same thing. by Dutchess of Sassland on 2006-12-11 11:45:55 Ooh, I just watched Tachyon's Gemma Part 1. by elliemae on 2006-12-11 11:46:31 Any anagrams yet, top ten? I'm going into withdrawal here... by Perky on 2006-12-11 11:48:11 Yeah, I agree with #82justagirl I can definitely feel for him in this one.. Daniel has been following her around with no thanks for weeks now - lost his car, lost most of his money, and all she can do is yell at him. Since she's old enough to make all these decisions for the two of them regarding jonas, she can do it for just herself now. by EmilyB1983 on 2006-12-11 11:48:27 FIRRRRRST!!!!!! Or 107TH :) by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 11:50:14 just one thought: Is daniel REALLY at home? at his home? the "d&b just faked the fight and staged the whole last video together with jonas"-theory _could_ still be right.... or am i completely overseeing something?? by colera on 2006-12-11 11:50:49 #105EmilyB1983 Yeah, I feel the same way. I agree with his descision, ultimately. Everyone seems to think that the shit's gonna hit the fan with Daniel soon enough, though, and we'll see that there's some kind of device on Daniel's life/soul on the Order's part. Eh. I think I'll just sit back and watch the videos, like a good little crackhead. by Chii-chan on 2006-12-11 11:50:53 94- Either that, or they just shot two versions. by Traegorn on 2006-12-11 11:51:10 So I have been "watching" you all for a while. Can't keep quiet anymore as the constant talking to myself and my monitor is beginning to creep my husband out. WTF, what is he thinking acting like it is no big deal that he left her. Any thoughts on the whole train thing? A hint perhaps? ARGGGGGG!!! by kimidawn on 2006-12-11 11:51:14 If Daniel still l'cares (is that French?) about Bree, then I doubt he's done with her. He's been a tool, but now that he can get a decent meal and some time to think about something other than survival, I think he'll go looking for Bree. He better. ::ominous glare:: by SaraMel15 on 2006-12-11 11:51:48 Awwww, that was sweet and sad and yes, he's a dork for having left Bree, but the vid was still sweet. #68TheDeacons *lol* Nice to know that you have the same problems as all we mere mortals... by Dream on 2006-12-11 11:52:35 113th!!! by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 11:53:41 I l- care about you.....which is why I abandoned you with someone we don't know and I don't trust...of course. Argh. Daniel sort your head out and go find her! Even if Jonas can be trusted, he'll still steal her from you! You really are hopeless *scowls threateningly until Daniel goes to rescue Bree* by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 11:53:47 Y'know, before we crucify D for leaving Bree -- this might just be the best thing for her, Order aside. She's been using Daniel like a crutch for a while now and totally leaving him in the lurch whenever she didn't like the decisions he was making for her. I understand the lost parents thing, but D is -not- her parent, and it's about time she understood that. That said, I don't think we've seen the last of Daniel, either. Plus, he had to -hop a train- to get home?! How far away did they -get-!? Hmmm. by eliza on 2006-12-11 11:57:17 He almoset said he still loves her then stopped himself and just said he cared.... lame admit how you feel Daniel you big pouf by darlinglilred on 2006-12-11 11:57:25 #114, Rebelgoddess: Yeah, I can see it already--Bree's next vid will be Bree giggling, saying, "So, Jonas and I just took a break from making out like horny little monkeys so I could make an update video..." XD by Chii-chan on 2006-12-11 11:58:00 #110 - the train thing. We've seen a whole lot of trains in these videos lately. There's got to be some significance beyond just the "D using them to get home" reference. Just not sure what it is yet. by eliza on 2006-12-11 11:58:46 #117 Chii-chan Argh, that's a scary image. Run Daniel, run! Save her! Although.... by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 11:59:10 Wow by modelmotion on 2006-12-11 12:00:22 Did anyone else notice whispering in the background? Was that part of the music or something else? by raigne on 2006-12-11 12:00:27 Not all watchers are Grigori, Jonas.... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 12:00:46 Yall suck. GO DANIEL! I thought it was very sweet what he said. Yall were the ones that voted for him not to go...So why trash him for something YOU choose. Anyways..we here still heart Daniel!! Hes far better than Jonas! by chance2 on 2006-12-11 12:02:17 Perky, before your withdrawal symptoms get too bad: Gemmas flatmate researched Ottawa (remember Rebel's high-school ghost is supposed to be from the Canadian capital?) and she found this: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ca-on-ot.html#new !!! by Dream on 2006-12-11 12:03:59 Okay, clearly "twinkie and a comic book" is code for something. There's no way anyone would spend their last six bucks on those items, and then admit it. He's told Bree where to meet him, and how to hop a train if necessary. by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-11 12:04:00 "Bree, I still lo......care about you." by nnnik on 2006-12-11 12:05:11 Who's standing in the background? Is he really home? by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-11 12:05:56 exacctly Spileetta42 #127.. i really doubt that!!! by colera on 2006-12-11 12:07:55 #127 It looks like his room from the photos on the wiki. I think that might be a guitar case propped in the background. by raigne on 2006-12-11 12:09:06 http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/jjackson-badthings/ Check out the "fire" by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 12:10:16 Its a guitar case..not a person by chance2 on 2006-12-11 12:10:32 LOL Daniel's turned into a vaudvillian hobo? I hope he carried his Twinkie in a satchel slung on a stick. So to recap, "I love you Bree, but I really needed a day at the spa." LAME And creators, if you think pulling at our heartstrings is gonna make us forgive Daniel for leaving sweet, innocent Bree alone with a stranger--Well, fine, it may be working, but just a little. by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 12:11:33 haha nice save.. "I still lov.. CARE about you Bree". Smooth. But seriously, I think he made a big show of 'leaving' Bree for a reason. We haven't seen Bree for awhile. All we have is Jonas' word that she came to him and is staying at his house. Who know's if she's really there? Things are getting interesting.. by pink_moon on 2006-12-11 12:12:31 Yep, there's the guitar case, and behind it . . . http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/Spiletta42/uhohdaniel.jpg by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-11 12:13:49 on the other hand... it's the same pillow as in his bedroom... hm.... my doubts seem to be wrong :) by colera on 2006-12-11 12:15:08 Ok, WAIT! WHAT IF! Daniel really DID go stake out Jonas, and decided he's a good guy, and then got to feeling like he (Daniel) wasn't good enough for Bree anymore? And he think that Jonas, with his big house and money, will be able to actually help Bree, while Daniel only succeeded in making her a homeless garbage eater? Maybe that's why he thanked Jonas and didn't actually say "love". He thinks Jonas is better for Bree than he is. by SaraMel15 on 2006-12-11 12:16:04 I'm still waiting for the Op Aphid video of him in his room. *smacks Daniel for leaving Bree. by irishka on 2006-12-11 12:16:16 WatchingOne- I'm from Ottawa no need to do research just ask a native. by darlinglilred on 2006-12-11 12:16:29 134 Spiletta--Are we sure that's not just a poofy jacket? by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 12:16:41 It is a different kind of guitar case. http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Image:Ood_daniel.jpg by raigne on 2006-12-11 12:20:50 about the train...ive jumped on a union pacific car when it was stopped before, and there were no "railroad cops" checking the cars. The hard part was jumping off. I was gonna jump off and do the roll thing, but I got nervous and got hella cut up on the rocks and shit And yes, nobody picks up hitchhikers in cali...you just dont do that over here... by 707clique on 2006-12-11 12:21:25 #124 OOH a swirly O... the UNSEEN... I was thinking last night that Unseen and Rebel aren't necessarily in opposition, despite the blue/green references... by Perky on 2006-12-11 12:21:36 Daniel is a sexybeast!!! However, he really shouldn't have left Bree like that... HEY DANIEL!: FIND BREE! FIND BREE! FIND BREE! FIND BREE! FIND BREE! FIND BREE! FIND BREE! FIND BREE! I think that it would help if everyone else joined in so the creators will get the point... late yo! by sabrin on 2006-12-11 12:25:13 #125 That's interesting, Spiletta, why else would he go to all the trouble of explaining exactly how to hop a train without getting caught. He's telling Bree how to escape if she has to. He's been with her for a long time, by now he knows that, even though she acts dumb and innocent, she can take care of herself. And if Jonas was evil, and he went with her, they would both be there now, and the order would find them both. Someone had to leave, find a way back home. Way to go Daniel! Now go back and rescue your love! by newbie on 2006-12-11 12:29:21 Darlinglilred -I'm just getting warmed up: music in the videos: "I Will Light you on Fire" by Golden Shoulders, Posted by Daniel on 09/05/2006 Dies The Fire III: A Meeting At Corvallis: The next book in the Dies The Fire series, A Meeting At Corvallis, will be be released on Tuesday. I’ve been waiting all summer for this to be released, and not just because the story takes place in the Pacific Northwest. This is a ripping good yarn, and I highly recommend that you pick up the first two novels in the series (Dies The Fire, The Protector’s War) if you haven’t read them already. Recommended. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 12:31:25 and there's more... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 12:32:04 It's getting so good! *happy dance* Watch Tachyon's video "Gemma pt 1". Finally, Gemma's plotline is really getting somewhere! by jerik on 2006-12-11 12:34:51 Okay he's so going to get kidnapped or something equally as weird now, i know it xcbhxcnb by Leesha on 2006-12-11 12:35:09 149th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah!!!!!! by populargirl51 on 2006-12-11 12:36:39 He was gonna say, "I still LOVE you!" Aw, how cute! by limboqueen117 on 2006-12-11 12:38:15 oK WHERE IS MY ANAGRAM MESSAGE REBEL.??.I WAS TOP 5...grrr.... by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 12:39:23 I am so sad. I can't believe Daniel squirreled away money and then spent it on a comic book after making the girl he lo..cares about eat out of a dumpster. I hope that Spiletta42 is right and that is a code for where they are to meet/what is going to happen. Tell the girl you love her, dammit! I can't believe he thanked Jonas after the whole bit about how he wouldn't go there. Well, it's not good enough for Twinkie eating Daniel, but it's good enough for Bree!! Grr, going away to look for video of OpAphid popping out of the guitar case and poking Daniel with a really big stick. by krig on 2006-12-11 12:39:59 Creators, I'm so sad :( You guys have succeeded in pulling my heart strings. I want Daniel and Bree to be together! I hoped that it wasn't his room (thanks for the pics guys - it saved me having to go do my own research). I really really really hoped that all the theories about him keeping an eye on Bree were true. This thing is getting too good to be true. So, in summary, keep it up (just please let D&B get back together!!!). If anyone else has some theories about how this is all a charade, I'll be gobbling it up while I go sulk in the corner... *grumbles my way to the corner, eyeing passerbys suspiciously* by flowerpower on 2006-12-11 12:43:53 Check the coordinates: And the reason it started... http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/curvefire9_02.html by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 12:45:23 Dunh Dunh Dahhhh! :P This better not be what it seems like. by SuzyQS on 2006-12-11 12:46:32 he musnt care about her that much seeing as he left her. and jonas could be anyone and he hated the idea of going to him and yet he wants jonas to look after bree. now she might go missing and it's all going to be his fault. by saffystar on 2006-12-11 12:48:09 I think maybe Daniel has had a complete break with reality. Remember when Bree went off the talking-to-plushies deep end? Daniel kept it together through all that, and now I think he's finally lost it. He seems to think that he can go back to his life as usual as if this never happened. Meanwhile, Bree's parents are still missing, she's still on the run, and there's no real reason for him to think that he's not in danger as well. Hopefully something will jog him back into reality. I think I'm gonna go with the "he's lost it" theory since it kinda excuses he jerky behavior as of late. by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 12:50:24 Now we're talking!! The Creators are starting to "get it together" with plot. First a change that we didn't see coming (which has got all our creative speculating juices flowing), and now they have made us doubt (dare I say "hate") one of our beloved charactors. This is better writing. But let not your hearts be troubled fellow Lcrack addicts, I think the day will come that we can love Danielbeast again. by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-11 12:51:28 First off, are most of you 12 or something? Everyone posting "FIRST!!". Get a life, instead of stalking the halls of lonelygirl15 waiting for your opportunity to be in the first 10 or so. Who CARES?!? Are you getting a nobel peace prize or pulitzer for posting "FIRST!!!"? I don't think so. Post something of value and not just priding yourself on being first, (like it's a big deal). Now to those of you who I've pissed off, I'm sorry, but c'mon, post something besides "FIRST". You obviously like this show, so say something, anything besides "FIRST!!!!". Secondly, kudos to the cast of Lonelygirl15. This novela of sorts has been playing on the net since when, June? More people each day are learning about "lonelygirl15" phenomenon and the popularity of it grows and grows. Continued success in the lonelygirl15 franchise and also in your budding acting careers. Thirdly, maybe I don't read enough of the message postings on here, but what is the reference to orange slurpees/drinks? Is it like Soylent Green or something? Fourth, I can tell lonelygirl15 and her other acting pursuits are taking it's toll on Jessica Rose. Earlier this summer, she would still respond, (or a rep for her would), if you wrote to her on myspace. Now you don't even get a courtesy letter. I'm glad she is becoming so successful; I just hope she, as well as the other actors of lonelygirl15, don't forget it's their fans who supported them and made them so popular. by BluJasmine on 2006-12-11 12:55:31 did he almost say I still LOVE you??? by irenedirks on 2006-12-11 12:55:57 TAG JONAS-you're it. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 12:57:49 #159 If you don't get the "firsts" you won't get the orange slurpees, the anagrams, or anything else. It's a game, play it or be miserable somewhere else. by Perky on 2006-12-11 12:58:13 Like whoa..... by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 12:59:32 I agree with #162...Are you like 100yr or something..So what if you don't like people posting first....Get a life... by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 13:00:53 Ok so I have got 2 theories! 1) It was all planned that he was going home, the fight was staged to fool everyone (includin us cos theres no way of tellin us without others findin out) and he's actually gone home to look for her parents. Who knows we may see a vid of him at Bree's house! 2) He's gone home for a couple of days but he is actually goin to go a stakeout jonas' place but he's posted this video for 2 reaons, 1 so Bree knows he's home safe and 2 so the order think he is at home! I haven't had time to read the other comments so apologies if all my post has already been said! Another thing! I watched Tachyon's video and it had Gemma on it. She was not in England, that was very much an american neighbour hood! So is this a mistake by the creators or is she actually in america and we just haven't found out yet that she is! One more thing! FFFFIIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSTTTTTT!!!!!! *salutes* Anyway this was my first proper post and I would like to know what ya think of my theories please lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 13:01:46 #165 (my first post) I forgot to say for the 2nd theory that Jonas is in on it as well so Bree is actually safe! by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 13:03:54 94 Justagirl--Yeah, I was wondering about that haircut, too. I'm hoping Traegorn is right and they shot multiple endings and then chose the one that corresponded to the fans. Instead of it all being a farce. Hot haircut though. by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 13:04:47 I like your theories nobby1985 by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 13:05:28 hey BluJasmine go here http://www.geocities.com/General_Firstsayer/ (btw, awesome General F!!) Also, #94 justagirl... The creators sais it wasn't going to be "choose your own adventure" i figure thgat either way, Daniel was gonna go home, it was just judging from our collective "decision" on if we trusted Jonas or not that Bree would go with him or go to Jonases.... does that look funny? ....Jonas' that's better. by selizabeth on 2006-12-11 13:05:50 is it to early to start chanting for another video? by TherealLilly on 2006-12-11 13:05:56 what!!!!! oh my goodness!!!!!! i cant believe you left bree your crazy!!!!!! uh-ohhhhh shes probably been brain washed by now by jonas even though i like him hes still un-trustworthy especially since he was begging bree to stay with him!!!! ahhhhh another video nowwwww!!!!!!!!! by keeana on 2006-12-11 13:06:13 now i'm just waiting for a video from bree saying "i l-l-care about you too daniel! Now come and rescue me from this crazy Jonas guy... he's making me drink orange slurpees and play twister!" haha by thenamesmeghan on 2006-12-11 13:06:27 This video was posted 10 minutes after I left, grr. Figures. Definitely hoping Daniel is still active in helping Bree or searching for her parents or something. He can't just go back to his normal life and forget about the girl he lo... cares about. ;-) I think there's more to all this because it doesn't make sense for him to go from leaving Bree because he doesn't trust Jonas to thanking him for helping Bree. They obviously have some sort of plan in motion. (I hope!) Lol, train hopping sounds like fun! But if he had like $5 left, then why couldn't he have tried to take a bus home instead of buying stuff? And I don't think he's a jerk for keeping a few dollars back. They probably did that on purpose. If I were living on the streets, I'd probably save my last couple dollars in case of emergency. It won't get you much, but it makes you feel like you have some security still. If that makes sense. by AlliBean on 2006-12-11 13:06:54 I don;t like this onebit, I mean, DANIEL WTF!?!?!?! I know you love her but this is not what someone that carez for someone does, you don't leave her alone!!!! *pissed* by rosieiswatching on 2006-12-11 13:07:12 I don't know why I love this series so much because I am CONTINUALLY disappointed. I'm sorry! I know I should keep it to myself, but I can't anymore. I think it is BAD STORYTELLING to never sew up any loose ends. EVER. We were all waiting for a big event on 12-10-06. I know the Creators never promised us anything, but it still would have been a good opportunity to give us something. What happened to Bree's parents? What about those shots, pills, and the diet? The special steps & language Bree was learning? What happened to the ceremony that seemed to be almost here over a MONTH ago? What is Lucy, et Order up to? What is Bree's religion exactly? Where there ever any tracking devices in the stuffed animals? How did the watchers continue to find them after ditching the car? Why was Daniel so quick to trust Tachyon but not Jonas? How exactly is OpAphid related to the Order: are they the same thing or not? Why is it that the OpAphid version of the acronym and Gemma's version of the acronym are so different? Why did the cult bother to take pictures of Daniel sneaking around the "fake" ceremony? What was the OpAphid representative looking for in B&D's hotel room? Why do the watchers only watch, but never act? What are they waiting for? What are the creators waiting for? Answers at least one of these questions at least halfway! Instead, all we get are vague allusions that some girl who MIGHT be Gemma MAY be involved in the Order and Daniel blabbering on about freakin' hobos and twinkies. by physphile on 2006-12-11 13:08:55 BluJasmin, welcome...FIRST ! and Orange Slurpees ARE a part of LonelyCrack, some peolple don't like it, but it is here for good. nobby1985, welcome 2, at this point, after the last 2 videos, I can't begin to guess whats next.... by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 13:09:38 ohh i didnt know there was two new videos i watched this one first haha i feel stupid now jonas is super hottt by keeana on 2006-12-11 13:09:55 165 Nobby--Yay for your first post! I kinda like theory 1. At this point, I don't really think that the fight was staged since Bree sounded like she was tearing up, and I don't know if B&D are supposed to be such great actors. (*I mean the characters; Jessica and Yousef are great!) But yeah, it's quite possible that there's more going on than we realize and it would make a lot of sense for Daniel to investigate the parents' whereabouts--SOMEONE has to! by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 13:11:32 And of course... FFFFFIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!! :-) *salutes* by AlliBean on 2006-12-11 13:11:44 172 - ROFLMAO! Yup. by kidlit on 2006-12-11 13:12:49 walter is my hero by selizabeth on 2006-12-11 13:14:43 OMG!.... by Katelyn on 2006-12-11 13:15:09 I want to play twister. by khjq on 2006-12-11 13:15:45 And since when did Daniel become Jack Kerouac chillin' out with Walter, the freakin' Dharma Bum. by physphile on 2006-12-11 13:16:43 178 - I kinda prefer my 1st theory to my 2nd lol and in my 2nd message, #166, I meant to say Jonas is in on the 1st theory not the 2nd lol although technically because of safety issues he would have to be in on the 2nd one as well lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 13:17:43 wow. he was about to say.. bree i still love you .. but he stoped himself and said i still care about you! by katelynvolcom on 2006-12-11 13:17:49 Ew, Daniel! I'm pissed. Yeah, we all caught how you were going to say "And Bree...I still LOVE you" but you know what? If you actually loved her you wouldn't have left her alone with some stranger from the internet! Love means choosing the higher good for the other person. You most definitely didn't do that. Go find her and make sure she's ok. by AutumnBrooke on 2006-12-11 13:18:14 And furthermore, the Creators have us all hanging with not knowing the fate of Bree. So, kudos to the Creators. by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-11 13:19:26 That's some crazy stuff...something has to happen now especially being Gemma is being spied on. Sooner or later everyone will show their faces and theres gonna be this huge brawl in a open field. by MagicianX on 2006-12-11 13:21:02 Okay, I looked up the definition of "catch out" on google, the second definition is interesting: Definitions of "catch out" on the Web: * To hop or jump on a freight train. catalog.com/hop/misc/dict.html * find out: trap; especially in an error or in a reprehensible act; "He was caught out"; "She was found out when she tried to cash the stolen checks" wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn by liebrarian on 2006-12-11 13:21:06 To chew on... The girl's name Bree is pronounced bree. It is of Irish and Gaelic origin. Anglicized form of the Irish Gaelic name BrÃghe, a variant of Brighid (see Bridget). Bridget, Gaelic origin. (Gaelic) "Exalted one." Anglicized form of the Gaelic name Brighid (pronounced "breed")... by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 13:23:57 HE ALMOST SAID HE LOVED HER!!!!!!!!!!!! Daniel needs to go back to Bree. I don't like Jonas...I'll bet he IS part of the Order and has her locked up like a prisoner. by tayduh1987 on 2006-12-11 13:24:16 The boy's name Jonah is pronounced JOE-nah. It is of Hebrew origin, and its meaning is "dove." Biblical: because Jonah was on board a ship when God caused it to sink, sailors have traditionally used the name to personify someone who brings bad luck. Medical pioneer Jonas Salk. Jonah has 2 variant forms: Jonas and Jonasco. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 13:24:24 The boy's name Daniel is pronounced DAN-yel. It is of Hebrew origin, and its meaning is "God is my judge." Biblical: the prophet and writer of the book of Daniel was a teenager when he was taken to Babylon after the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 BC. He survived a politically motivated death sentence in a lions' den. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 13:25:19 Daniel, this was an amazing video. I loved how it was just you talking and telling us really interesting stories from your journey home. This is a strange, odd situation you're in now, I hope it works out for you, Bree, and everyone involved. And I'm sad to hear your parents are THAT oblivious about your life. They really thought Paul hosted you for a month? What freeloader parents, dumping their son off on other people! Paul seems nice: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Paulmark18 but I don't think anyone's THAT nice! by HyeMew on 2006-12-11 13:25:57 Love how the music was so fitted to how he feels. "...such a waste of time..." He obviously still loves Bree, but sometimes even when we love someone we have to let them go. That's his situation. I don't think he's an asshole or anything. Sometimes you just have to look out for number 1 sometimes. by cathe2ine on 2006-12-11 13:26:22 The girl's name Gemma is pronounced JEM-ah. It is of Latin origin, and its meaning is "gem, jewel." Saint Gemma was an Italian saint canonized in 1940. She was an ordinary young woman whose religious life included manifestations of the stigmata, or the marks of Christ's wounds. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 13:26:30 # 175- physphile... i think that all of the loose ends will start coming into focus now... they are trying to keep us around by giving us lots of mystery without any resolution, but it has been said that the resolutions will come! by thenamesmeghan on 2006-12-11 13:26:32 #162, sorry if I came across as "miserable" as you put it. I guess I just have a life outside of this forum. I enjoy the vlogs and reading what some people have to say in regards to the storyline. However, someone such as yourself coming across as superior because you know what the orange slurpees, anagrams, or whatever else is, is sad. Instead of trashing someone because they don't know something, you should help them. What I said about "FIRST" posters waS an attempt to get them to say something besides "FIRST". I wasn't aware that there was any significance to saying "FIRST", other than bragging rights. Most of us seem to enjoy the lonelygirl15 series, and I was merely pointing out that everyone has a right to say something MORE than just FIRST.If it's some secret code as to what's going on in the plot, then please explain. If it's just a "ME FIRST" contest, then what's the point? Since you are soooo much more knowledgable about lonelygirl15 than me, an explanation would be greatly appreciated. After all, I am just a mere mortal who tunes in to see the videos and will read an occasional blog to read reactions and what have you), but obviously doesn't have your superiority of all things lonelygirl15. Secondly, maybe some of us don't have the time to go through every single posting to get a "CLUE" about this show. We don't psychoanalyze what is seen in the background, how many times "Bree" blinked, or listen for certain sounds for clues. This isn't some mystic code coming at us from some higher source. It's entertainment. Granted, there are some clues given that help foreshadow what's to come, but I don't really think this was made to have it torn to pieces for clues and inuendos, but merely for entertainment value. And for the record? Last time I checked, anyone can post what they want. I believe we are all here to enjoy the lonelygirl15 series, and not to criticize one another. If my last posting made it seem like I was trashing the "FIRST"ers I wasn't. I just don't see the point. An explanation would have been alot better than just calling me miserable because of what I said. Just because we all might not be 'IN THE KNOW' like you obviously seem to think you are, that doesn't give you just cause to trash me, or anyone else. Instead of anyone trashing another because they don't understand or know something, don't you think it's better to explain? What if you were in the same situation? You didn't know something, and instead of someone helping you, they called you "miserable" and acted so superior to you because they knew things you didn't. Explain to me the whole point to posting "FIRST", along with the anagrams and other "mysterious" things people post, so that I might have a better understanding. by BluJasmine on 2006-12-11 13:27:30 The girl's name Cassie is pronounced KASS-ee. It is of English origin. Short form of Cass and Cassandra frequently used as an independent name.The girl's name Cassandra is pronounced ka-SAN-dra, ka-SAHN-dra. It is of Greek origin, and its meaning is "unheeded prophetess. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 13:30:19 #199 GeneralFirstsayer? Please enlighten her! by Dream on 2006-12-11 13:30:22 silly rabbits, trix are for kids they only give us a little bit to keep us coming back. that is the success, the pull, and what I HATE so much... by girlisgeorge on 2006-12-11 13:30:48 Someone needs to get laid.... by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 13:30:50 #193- WatchingOne... i guess Jonas is bad news then! by thenamesmeghan on 2006-12-11 13:31:58 i totally agree with you #199(blujasmine) by keeana on 2006-12-11 13:32:04 http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Paulmark18 Hahaha just watched the Be Careful Daniel blog. That was funny. Funny friends rock AND So what do you all think of watchingone's posts? 'Jonas' may be considered badluck to sailors nowadays, but remember he also survived living in a giant fish belly !!! by cathe2ine on 2006-12-11 13:32:55 Sad. :\ by Jonneh on 2006-12-11 13:34:25 Meghan (#197) I know, I just hope some questions are answered sooner than later. You can only drag out the mystery for so long before it gets ridiculous that no answers are given. I still love the story, though!!! WatchingOne (#200) It might be good to note that a Cassandra is a person who is overly pessimistic (the opposite of which is a Polyanna). by physphile on 2006-12-11 13:35:07 DOESNT ANYONE GET IT ??? TOO MUCH TIME HAS PASSED ... THE ORDER TOLD BREE THEY COULD NOT DO THE CEREMONY WITHOUT HER CAUSE THE TIME WAS TOO CLOSE. WHAT EVER TIME IT TOOK TO TRAIN HER ... LETS SAY 10 DAYS ... THEN 15 DAYS AFTER SHE RAN AWAY, THEN THE TIME HAS PASSED. WHY WOULD SHE HAVE TO RUN ANYMORE ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? by markus on 2006-12-11 13:36:38 "wah wah my pussy hurts!" - danielbeast by Platypus on 2006-12-11 13:38:46 APOLOGIES TO THE GENERAL! *SALUTES* FIIIIIRRRRRRRSSSSSSTTTTTT!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!1!!!1!! physphile (#175): good insight (I think someplace deep within, I almost even agree with you a little bit), but I have to stick up for the Creators a little bit on this one. A lot of the things that we viewers have been waiting for (i.e. 12-10-06, the clocks reading 7:10, etc) are conspiracy theories that we (the viewers) have created. We forget that these guys (the Creators) came into this project with a pretty set story and a big picture. They're willing to work us and our input in (which is great), but I don't think that they're going to fundamentally change their storyline. (I should add here that I'm suspicious about whether we actually had anything to do with Bree going to Jonas, judging by the VH1 awards and the timing of Daniel's haircut in the vlogs... but I digress.) I also think that we need to have a wee bit more patience. This world is in such a rush, we never take time to savor. Let's savor the story people! Once it's gone, we'll all be in fetal positions in front of our computers with lonelycrack withdrawl! That's just my two cents (and a quarter for Lizard). I'm going back to my sulky corner to ruminate over the D and B separation. by flowerpower on 2006-12-11 13:39:46 BluJasmin, I'm not bashing anyone (but myself since i am grumpy today) First ! is a zen pronouncement (General Firstsayer), and you can check out Orange Slurpee in the LGpedia for the history. Thanks for speaking your mind. by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 13:41:07 ouch where i'm from.. boys don't have pussies :/ by cathe2ine on 2006-12-11 13:41:56 His parents weren't worried and didnt notice his car was gone - that's really weird. Also can anyone please tell me what the OpaHid videos are? When I'm reading the comments about them they seem important. Please!! by jennamarie xo on 2006-12-11 13:42:12 aw some parents don't even give a shiite about what their kids do! i don't think there is anything suss about that. by cathe2ine on 2006-12-11 13:43:51 markus (#209) I totally agree! Check out post #175 (I feel weird referencing myself). I believe when Bree put on that she did the fake ceremony that she had been practicing for a month (she said "This last month has been very difficult"). It has been about a month now since she ran. Now allowing for the time it might take to select someone new, if the real ceremony doesn't wrap up in about a week, this will become completely unbelievable. by physphile on 2006-12-11 13:43:58 My belief as an educated person is that, before insulting what I don't understand, I take the time to learn a little bit about it. I did not understand "First", so I took two minutes to check out LGPedia. I did not understand "orange slurpees" so I took two more minutes to check out LGPedia. Funny thing, all that information right there, for free, just waiting for someone to read it. Perhaps you would find people more amenable to sharing their knowledge if, instead of demanding that they stop wasting their time and yours (obviously precious) by posting FIRST, you asked politely, "Hey, just wondering what the FIRST thing is about? And what do the orange slurpee references mean?" Others have asked - politely - and have received polite responses. Some have even been swayed to join in the Firstsayers, the Orange Slurpee folks, and the LonelyCracks. As for the amount of time spent here, you know nothing about the people here. You don't know why they are here or what they do in real life. You step in for one comment, use that comment to insult people who enjoy the entertainment value of this venue, and then you dare accuse others of being on a high horse? It's the pot calling the kettle black, honey. If you're jealous because you're not part of the family... apologize, ask polite questions, and maybe you'll find a better response. by Perky on 2006-12-11 13:45:28 jennamarie xo #214 those videos are part of the vidoe comments on the right side of the page....you dont have to watch them...i dont... and yeah that it really weird that they didnt care that he was gone for a month and that he didnt even have his car?? whats wrong with them??? by keeana on 2006-12-11 13:46:59 OK. HERE IT IS SEP 4 ... SHE ANNOUNCES SHE IS CHOSEN FOR THE CEREMONY NOV 2 ... SHE RUNS AWAY SO ... THEN BY END OF JAN OR MID FEB .... SHE BETTER GO HOME TO PARENTS ... 2 MONTHS TO TRAIN MEANS THAT THEY ARE DOING THE CEREMONY (OR DID) FROM NOV 2 TO END OF DEC. GO HOME BREE by markus on 2006-12-11 13:47:42 #94, good observation!!! I love lonelygirl15 and refresh the site like 200times a day, but I have the feeling that the "oh we involve the fans" is a big bubble with (almost) nothing behind. Well then just stop acting as if you would, creators! ok... other than that, I really like the storyline right now. I dont think you can blame Daniel for leaving her - he's actually helped her out more than you can expect from a friend, especially when she hardly appreciates it. I guess he's just frustrated. Eventually he gets back to get her (from evil Jonas, or from good Jonas, who knows...) Oh - and his almost "I love you" was really cute! by gillar on 2006-12-11 13:48:20 #217 Perky Well said! Please, people, if you don't understand what everyone is talking about, take a minute to ask (politely, as Perky said), and if you don't get an answer, you can always check the LGpedia. That's what it's there for. All of us were new at one point. We have all had to ask questions. Even the crackin-est of LonelyCracks has to check the LGpedia once in a while. Please, let's all be nice. Otherwise we can't have singalongs and bakesales anymore. :( by krig on 2006-12-11 13:50:28 did the creators make the lgpedia or the fans? by keeana on 2006-12-11 13:50:48 Okay... Have there been a thousand elephants stomping around in my head, or did DB just say "We got our hair cut." We?? Our?? When did an "US" evolve into going back home and getting the funk washed off??? LOL Intellesting. by Withe on 2006-12-11 13:51:46 keeana #222 I believe it works like wikipedia - anyone can edit it. So creators and fans alike put stuff in there! by physphile on 2006-12-11 13:52:08 #222 Anyone can edit lgpedia. There are enough fans that it stays pretty accurate. by Perky on 2006-12-11 13:52:29 Two hundred and Twenty fifth! oh dear I'm getting slow...(or a life away from LG...eeek!) by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-11 13:53:22 ohhhh ok... by keeana on 2006-12-11 13:53:22 jennamarie, check out the opaphid vids if you want on youtube. i find it eisier because they are better orginized cronilogically. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=OpAphid you can catch up on tachyon too ://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Tachyon They are just the alternate reality game. i don't play but it is kinda fun to watch them. you can look them up in the lgpedia for more background. by selizabeth on 2006-12-11 13:53:54 Thanks, krig...btw is the bundt cake done ? by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 13:54:06 Kudos perky that was extremely well said! by Dutchess of Sassland on 2006-12-11 13:54:17 Please tell me i'm not the only one dying for another video already. I'd love to be distracted by bunt cake... by Dutchess of Sassland on 2006-12-11 13:56:04 figured out which actor's leaving yet? wait for it...wait for it... nice story arc. Daniel says "oh well, see ya, heading home." gets home, nothing happens. gets a haircut, posts a video. notice that now Bree has no video equipment? by Danie1beast on 2006-12-11 13:56:25 Okay, had to go actually do my job for a bit (what a drag) and now I see that there's nobody behind the guitar case, it's just another piece of luggage of some kind. So, a twinkie and a comic book . . . Daniel was reading X-Factor a few weeks ago. What's going on in that book these days? Might they have used it to create a code of some sorts, and if so, what would twinkie mean? Maybe a place in their neighborhood that sells sweets? And am I the only one who thinks that the reference to a mortgage company might be a reference to Watchers and/or the Order? He could be telling Bree that a Watcher followed him home. by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-11 13:57:20 #229 NAXAN Procrastination + bundt cake obsession = apartment filled with bundt cakes Hope everyone is well. gemmas flatmate, how is your daughter? Lizard, how goes the exam life? by krig on 2006-12-11 13:58:24 Is Dan in his room? Was he looking at OpAphids camera? On my.... by Shadow on 2006-12-11 13:58:39 "Thanks Jonas, for taking care of Bree. She needs a friend right now." DANIEL!! You ARE her BEST and nearly ONLY friend. You should be the one there for her, not Jonas. I cannot believe you just left her like that. And you have the GUTS to say that you still CARE about her?! If you cared about her, you wouldn't have left her, a vulnerable 16-year-old girl, alone with Jonas, a teenage guy you barely know. I cannot believe you. I simply cannot. And Jonas, I am NOT REASSURED AT ALL by the fact that we still haven't seen Bree. Is she safe, or do you have her hostage or something? Goodness... I guess at least we all got what we asked for... plot development. lol. *just me* by *just me* on 2006-12-11 14:01:37 #94 (and #220) on a hopeful, but probably nieve note- maybe they made two videos, one for each outcome? and whatever the fans chose got posted? but it's probably much more likely that they already made their choice before we made ours by lilhypernicki on 2006-12-11 14:01:46 #94 (and #220) on a hopeful, but probably nieve note- maybe they made two videos, one for each outcome? and whatever the fans chose got posted? but it's probably much more likely that they already made their choice before we made ours by lilhypernicki on 2006-12-11 14:01:46 awwww, he still "Lo.....cares about her!" I like the way he shows it too! *snickers* by sd_mcbride on 2006-12-11 14:02:09 i dont think so wasnt his bed blue? by keeana on 2006-12-11 14:02:42 Maybe she's supposed to hop a train to Kansas City? "Interstate Bakeries, a FORTUNE 1000 company, is the nation’s largest distributor of fresh baked breads and cakes, including the famous Hostess Twinkies and Wonder Bread. The company is based in Kansas City, Mo., and has 57 bakeries and 30,000 employees in the U.S." *skips off singing 'Everything's up to date in Kansas City, they've gone about as far as they can go . . . * by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-11 14:03:23 Danielbeast almost said he loves Bree! Awwww by Sadie on 2006-12-11 14:03:34 OMG he almost said he loved her. he should suck it up and tell her no more of this "bree I l.. care about you. I work at a mortgage company and its no suprise to me that that old guy would take 2 months off just to chill this place is hectic by Lisa on 2006-12-11 14:03:36 #233, Maybe when WE got OUR hair cut was a subtle hint he wasn't all by his lonesome... And dangit Daniel!!! Why did you hesitate when you said you loved her. For shame! Poor Bree, she's prolly all duct taped up with no place to go... by Withe on 2006-12-11 14:04:49 Why are you so sure she's safe right now Daniel?? You were very insecure about Jonas before, why not now? Cause you ate a twinkie, bought a comic and took a long shower? Sounds to me like you only care about yourself right now... by Morgan on 2006-12-11 14:08:42 Guys, he said: "...gotta haircut." Not "we." I've watched it like 3 times (I love the, "lo... care about you" part crazy). by flowerpower on 2006-12-11 14:08:53 214 Jennamarie--Daniel's parents are obviously ex-hippies still all hopped up on dope. They're too busy making midnight runs to 7-11 notice their offspring. (That was a totally inadvertant evil slurpee reference) 233 Spiletta42--Oooh, yeah, you might be onto something with the mortgage company. Are they usually sinister? by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 14:09:14 Well Daniel, you had a nice little train ride, met some interesting people, bought yourself a Twinkie and a comic, came home to a hot shower, your parents and a comfortable bed. How nice for you. But, after allowing your 16-year-old "friend" to subsist on garbage from maggot infested dumpsters while you still had money in your pocket, you then abandoned her in a strange town, with no money, no friends, leaving her to the devices of a stranger whom you had just denounced as be untrustworthy. And then you smugly tell her as you lay on your bed that you are "sorry", you "miss her" and you are grateful that some stranger is taking care of her. What the hell is the matter with you!!! Is that kind of behavior the hallmark of an adult? I think not child!! by mofun10801 on 2006-12-11 14:10:06 Just to say... FFFFFIIIIRRRRSSSSTTTTT!!!!!11!11!!!!!!!!!! For the General And to annoy Blujasmine.... Because I'm mature like that. by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 14:10:20 So here's my 2 cents. Daniel: I understand man, I really do. To be honest, I would have probably left a lot sooner than you would have. It's fairly obvious to all of us how you feel about Bree, but it is equally obvious, to me anyway, that she does not share those feelings. She was reclusive. She talked more to her stuffed animals than she did to you. She never told you what the order was or exactly what the danger was that you faced. Finally, and most insultingly, she was all-too-willing to run into the arms of another man. So I get it. I do. But here's the thing. You current course of action is just not good enough. You cannot abandon her to her enemies. You cannot leave her with nothing in this crisis resolved. Jonas may or may not be trustworthy. But even if he is, Bree is not his responsibility. She's yours. Let's not forget that it was you who convinced her not to go through with the ceremony. I believe your actions were ultimately for the good, but you also bear responsibility for the consequences to her and her family. You have to see this thing through to the end. Nobody else can save her. It's a hard truth. In the end, Bree does not need a friend. She does not need a partner, and she certainly doesn't need a clumsy paramour. She needs a hero. I cannot promise you a happy ending. Even if you manage to get the two of you out of this predicament, your reward might be watching her run into Jonas' arms. If that is the case, so be it. Ultimately, it is the only way you will be able to resolve this situation and still be able to look yourself in the mirror. And that is worth the sacrifice and the risk. There comes a time in every man's life when he must ask himself what he believes in. Such moments turn and shape him into the man he ultimately becomes. So. Is it in you? What do you believe in, Daniel? by dogger on 2006-12-11 14:11:07 LOOK AT THIS LINK Just to get your attention....this is the image from REBEL's profile. I reversed the negative and reduced the flash so the real image is shown. Blue eyes. Ta daa. Ok, so someones prob done this already, but hey, kept me amused. http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/2549/refusetobelieveliesgo0.jpg by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 14:17:45 Naxan #212, thank you for being polite and considerate with my misunderstanding of the secret ways of the lg15 fans. I greatly appreciate your assistance and feel humbled with your brillance. Perky #217, Before you call me HONEY, get a quarter and buy a clue. I apologized for coming across as judgemental or critical. YOU on the other hand have done nothing but slam me. As I said before, I believe we are all here to enjoy the forum and vlogs. Why make it uncomfortable for anyone by damning them for whatever they did wrong? (I know I was wrong in criticizing the "FIRST"ers,and I am sorry for offending anyone, and now know what the big deal is-thank you #169), but that doesn't give you the right to act like judge and jury either. Thank you to those who have been supportive and haven't slammed me because I don't search the site for clues or try to disect Bree and Daniel. I am just here to watch, observe, and enjoy. Does that make me a bad person? Obviously it does. As a sidenote about plot: I hope Daniel saves the day. :) Oh and btw? FIRSTTTTTT!!!! :P :P :P by BluJasmine on 2006-12-11 14:17:57 omg! i almost cried! by drbrenda on 2006-12-11 14:21:30 Okay. I've been thinking. And reading comments. And I think I agree with a lot of you guys saying Daniel isn't really such a jerk after all. Daniel wouldn't have himself and Bree eating out of a dumpster if he had any kind of money...bread and peanut butter are pretty cheap and won't spoil quickly. And he definately would have tried to take a bus home before hitchhiking or hopping a train. There was definately some sort of code in there to Bree and/or Jonas: meet me (where?), but don't try to hitchhike, take a train. And Daniel wouldn't leave Jonas with Bree if he didn't trust him, so he can't be telling Bree how to "escape" from Jonas. How would she even get his message if Jonas is holding her prisoner; I doubt she would have unlimited internet access. Now if only we could figure out what all these codes mean... by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 14:22:18 #252 Blujasmine Congrats, now you're one of us! Be very afraid.... :) by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 14:23:01 Oh, BluJasmine, I knew you wanted to be adopted into the fold! Welcome! (P.S. Here's a hint: Whenever you're "first"ing, you must make it longer, and if possible throw a coupld of 1's in between the ! - it makes it look more excited and authentic.) *wink* by flowerpower on 2006-12-11 14:23:03 #252 Aww, yay! Welcome to the ranks of the general, jasmine! by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 14:24:21 Can we say self absorbed much! Damn Dan, what a friend you turned out to be. The girl you are in love with. You just leave, and with Jonas no doubt. Well since your room has been bugged, I hope Oppy cuts your ( BLEEEEEEEEEP) off. After the this vid and the last. I have lost respect for your character. I hope the shower was nice, and everything you have back. Cause, your life is far from becoming normal again. Maybe, if you do come back after your trip! Hoepfully you wont be such an ass! by angie78gg on 2006-12-11 14:26:43 I think Jonas needs to post a video to reassure us that Bree is okay. Though at this point I'm picturing it being something like Jonas knocking at Bree's room saying, "Come out Bree. You really need to eat something." Bree yells from inside, "No! Leave me alone!" It does nothing for plot movement but might set some minds at ease. by AlliBean on 2006-12-11 14:27:21 KOMGLGGG by hella_samira on 2006-12-11 14:27:22 #252 BluJasmine Not searching the site for clues or not trying to dissect Bree or Daniel does not make you a bad person. What pissed people off is that you started off your post (#159) by "coming out swinging". I mean, since your first line was "First off, are most of you 12 or something?", don't you think people might be a little put off? If you had just asked what all the "first" posts were about, I am sure you would have had an entirely different response. I did see that you apologized for criticizing the firstsayers (#252). I am not a firstsayer, but I am a fan of all of us having a good time and I thank you for that apology. That being said, we always welcome new people here at the comments board and look forward to reading your posts in the future. by krig on 2006-12-11 14:27:26 LOOK AT THIS LINK Just to get your attention….this is the image from REBEL’s profile. I reversed the negative and reduced the flash so the real image is shown. Blue eyes. Ta daa. Ok, so someones prob done this already, but hey, kept me amused. img459.imageshack.us/img459/2549/refusetobelieveliesgo0.jpg by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 14:27:34 "i still lo-care about you" Go to Jonas's Daniel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Owned on 2006-12-11 14:27:41 Three cheers for Blujasmine joining the Firrrst-ers! It's hard to resist, isn't it? :) by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 14:28:01 Who else has blue eyes? Tachyon? Gemma? by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 14:30:29 freaky! daniel looks kind of like my boyfriend in that vid. haha, just a little though by hilske on 2006-12-11 14:32:49 That was the best Daniel video ever. I loved the music. He's looking a lot better. Yosef really shined - I hope we do see more of him even if its just a biweekly update or something. by gnome on 2006-12-11 14:33:19 DANIELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!! by Rokr on 2006-12-11 14:34:00 Gemma has bright blue eyes. But what's going on with the eye thing? I'm kinda lost... by flowerpower on 2006-12-11 14:34:01 I have blue eyes! Uh oh... by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 14:34:01 A Word on "Slurpees": Orange. This color is for our purpose the color of the mental plane, the color that marks BURNING: it is the symbol of FLAME, and curiously enough the color that epitomizes separation Oh - and Jonas - here's a little thorn in "The Orders'" side for you- ENJOY... http://www.nireland.com/evangelicaltruth/orange.html by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 14:34:35 Is there something you're not telling us Elphie..... :) by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 14:34:52 #270 Elphielives So do I. Did you get any of the anagrams? I did. How do they know?! Agh! by krig on 2006-12-11 14:35:44 Poor Daniel. I can tell you miss her, but I doubt she's going to want to talk to you for a while. D by TechnoTerra on 2006-12-11 14:37:58 Blue eyes: REBEL Green eyes: UNSEEN http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=RefusEtoBeliEveLies And almost up to date... by Dream on 2006-12-11 14:39:48 Holy crap #271!!! Please tell me you made that up! by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 14:40:55 #275 Dream Thanks so much for maintaining that page for us. You = awesome. by krig on 2006-12-11 14:41:22 Now he's thanking Jonas? And encouraging him to take care of her? Yep, I'm more convinced now that it could be a "hand-off". Jonas may be the new Daniel. by Paulo on 2006-12-11 14:41:43 I just watched the vlog yet again. I'm ashamed to say that I ever suspected my Danielbeast of being bad. When he tells Bree he's sorry... it just melts my heart. More than if they were on screen together soap opera style. The best part about this medium is that he's looking directly at the camera - it's very personal. Aw, shucks... *mopes back to the corner while wiping a single tear* by flowerpower on 2006-12-11 14:41:45 BREE is falling in love with jonas by yourmom on 2006-12-11 14:45:32 Ooh, do you think there will be a holiday episode where we see Jonas, Bree and the stuffed animals singing carols to us? I mean, what else are they going to do? Those two, with lots of time, money and internet on their hands.... by krig on 2006-12-11 14:46:38 Aw, I am really excited for Bree and Jonas vids...Jonas is my favorite secondary character...probably because he's a guy and he's hot. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 14:49:09 #277 krig How I love to hear that! Makes it much more likely that I'll go on maintaining the page...! #271 & 276 I don't think it is made up. I kind of remember having heard about them before. by Dream on 2006-12-11 14:51:07 I have never posted in here, but I just hve to say something to blu jasmine. Who are you to say people are acting like they are 12 yars old? You are arguing in a forum on the internet about a fake girl... Don't get me wrong I think the videos are great, but what is the point in arguin and name-calling with a bunch of strangers? It is a pet peeve of mine for people to accuse others of things they are guilty of themselves. Just had to point that out. by cray0723 on 2006-12-11 14:51:11 #261 krig Thank you for your eloquence. by Perky on 2006-12-11 14:52:03 BluJasmine welcome to LG15. I'm happy you enjoy the videos! Some folk are here to watch this fab internet soap opera, some are here for the ARG and some here for a general laugh. We are a bunch of sesitive souls though, LG15 fans get the mick taken out of us a lot! xx by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-11 14:52:55 TIME FOR A NEW VIDEO!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE by khjq on 2006-12-11 14:54:43 Thanks Dream....I kinda hate to ask, but who is UNSEEN? Or is it just the unknown person Refuse is talking to....? by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 14:55:53 Okay, so we were told to fight the order with the colors of purple and blue...by Joe, unless I'm mistaken. But according to WatchingOne's post, the secondary level of the Orange Order is the Plain Purple Degree. Joe, my suspicious toward you are growing by the hour... by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 14:56:09 Dream, I bow to your organisation skills! You are an example to us all xx by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-11 14:57:59 just got home from work, so tired, just have to say: Gemma is totally working for the Order. She's been spotted in town, she gave a fake meaning for opaphid, she got down right angry when bree suggested staying with jonas (cassie now says bree is safe with him and daniel is in danger). that is all. by Scooter on 2006-12-11 14:58:55 #288 There is a link to UNSEEN in the refusetobelievelies page on LGwiki. (I think UNSEEN drinks slurpees..) by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-11 14:59:32 #291 What fake meanings for OpAphid did she give? And what does it really mean? I remember she said something about Acknowledge Presence Help Initiate Dialogue ? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 15:00:09 This storyline is going SSSLLOOOOOWWWLLLEYYYY! by grumpymonster on 2006-12-11 15:00:22 ooooohhhhhh......the new itscassie video is creepy by jerik on 2006-12-11 15:01:46 #288 no wait..theres a page! http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=UtNbErS_tutlaEN by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-11 15:01:47 Okay, went to 7-11, got a slurpee....all is right with the world :) by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 15:02:44 Oh dear, I don't think I can handle so many nice things said about me... Thank you! *blushes* by Dream on 2006-12-11 15:02:58 #286 gemmas flatmate, you are here! I posted earlier today wondering about your daughter. Is she improving? I hope so! Best wishes to you and her and boyfriend too! #285 Perky De nada. :) by krig on 2006-12-11 15:03:46 We cannot believe that you delivered the اوريم وتميم to a Grigori. You have doomed اوريم وتميم. Daniel search your heart you must rescue her from שמיחזה. The army of Paimon will soon move in to perform a demonic ritual with the Asakku to make her pass through the Fires of Molech. After this the times of revelation will occur and the dead will walk the earth again. If you allow this to happen you have doomed us all. You carry the blood that can protect her. Ask if you may rejoin her side and see if you become shunned. This will be your first clue as to his intentions. As risky as it may sound you will need help from the people who follow the journeys of اوريم وتميم they will guide you on what you should do. If Daniel has truly given up it is you who read this message who have become the chosen few... People of this world you must join to help اوريم وتميم in her battle now. If Daniel will not help it will require each and every one of you to help. We will find ways to ask of your help as new information arrives. We may ask you to go places find out information. Just as the Grigori you will become watchers for the side of good. Novus Ordem Seclorum. It wasn't just an idea it was a freedom for our very souls. The اوريم وتميم must perform the liturgy of Amon-Ra to save us. by Deacons on 2006-12-11 15:03:56 Oh my word..You guys..did you see the new Itscassie Video..? CReepY by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 15:05:26 #297 NAXAN, what are you doing? That slurpee had better be grape! Or cherry or coke at the least! by krig on 2006-12-11 15:05:58 Oh thanks, gemma's flatmate. I guess I missed that when I was looking at the entry before. by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 15:06:15 !!!!FFFFFFFIIIIIIIRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTT111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SALUTES THE GENERAL!!!! by BaxterRussell on 2006-12-11 15:07:31 #270 - I have green eyes. muhahahahaha! by jerik on 2006-12-11 15:08:30 NAXAN!!! Stop! Put that slurpee down right now and back away slowly... by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 15:09:21 dude, you ate the twinkie kid! by zzees on 2006-12-11 15:10:05 No worries, it is Cherry, the 7-11 I go to is a 'Corporate' store (not a franchise), they don't carry Orange ! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 15:12:22 Why do crave bundt cake ? by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 15:13:24 heyyy did anyone watch itscassies new video?? i thought it was kinda creapy is working w/ the order or is she just messing arounf? by keeana on 2006-12-11 15:13:40 Bundt cake is the source of all that is good. That is why they consistently serve it at support groups, like LonelyCracks Anonymous. by krig on 2006-12-11 15:15:29 jackass! Look, Daniel, I like you-but if you really care about Bree, you'll go back for her. You'll stay at Jonas's with her. Get a job there. If Jonas can be trusted, then you have nothing to worry about. If Jonas can't be trusted, then that's more of a reason than anything to go protect your best friend! She needs you. by dubbers on 2006-12-11 15:15:56 WatchingOne, how long have you been around? You know an awful lot of stuff. by Dream on 2006-12-11 15:19:07 You know what I wish? I wish someone would l'care about me...sigh...only my guy wouldn't abandon me with some creepy orphan rich kid. But it'd still be cool if he l'care-ed me. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 15:20:05 Hey, isn't 7-11 kinda like Gas'n Go...Don't go to work Daniel ! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 15:20:19 #315 No, NAXAN, Gas'n Go is like the healthy alternative to 7-11. Kind of like Coke (which makes you fat) compared to Diet Coke (which refreshes your thirst but does not make you fat). And if Gas'n Go works really hard, they could eventually put all 7-11's out of business...this is a good thing. Work hard Daniel, really hard! by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 15:23:12 AND then the Deacons reply at 300. How surprising. Daniel will not listen to your cryptic messages. Here's a little truth for you: "At her shrine at Kildare, there was kept a perpetual flame by 19 of her Priestesses. Later, after the Christianization of Ireland, this same flame was tended by the nuns of the Abbey at Kildare, when Bridget became Saint Bridget. The festival honoring Bridget is still kept today by Wiccans everywhere on or about February 2nd, and is called Imbolc, or Imbolg, or Oimelc, or Candlemass - depending on the culture of the group's tradition" by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 15:24:26 Sorry guys, it's Gas 'n Eats. Someone pointed out a few vlogs ago that it doesn't exist and is actually a reference to a novel, but I can't remember which one. by krig on 2006-12-11 15:25:10 We as young men do some strange things, especially when we are in love, Daniel will find his car and eventually rescue Bree from the clutches of the Order. by BaxterRussell on 2006-12-11 15:27:37 Haha Elphielives--Valentine's Day is gonna be interesting this year when hundreds of lonelycrack addicts tell their significant others they "l'care" about them. I smell an lgpedia entry... by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 15:27:48 #317 - Bridgette - Breighd - Bree? Or am I grapsing at straws? Yup, yup I'm grasping again. I quit! by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 15:28:35 Still wandering what Gemma thinks of all this..... by Southofnowhere19 on 2006-12-11 15:30:33 #320 Kimmy, get on that! Do you know how to make an entry? by krig on 2006-12-11 15:30:45 woooooo itscassie's vid is freaky! I dunno about any of you but at the beginning it felt like she was giving Bree a warning that, even though Daniel thinks shes safe and Cassie SAYS shes safe it doesn't actually mean she is! It kind of felt like I was watching Bree in her bedroom at Jonas' and there was either Jonas (haven't decided whether I fully trust him yet or not) or someone from the order outside her room. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it lol Any thoughts? by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 15:37:16 I think I'll have to put a bundt cake reference on the LonelyCrack-page... by Dream on 2006-12-11 15:39:21 Elphielives - You're not grasping - see my post#191-and don't quit - just hang on by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 15:40:05 Yay, bundt cake makes it to the big time! by krig on 2006-12-11 15:41:09 WatchingOne - Wow, you've got a lot of great stuff in there...where do you do all your research? What did St. Bridgitte do to become a saint? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 15:45:31 For the LGpedia page...lol. allrecipes.com/Recipe/Orange-Cake/Detail.aspx by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 15:48:44 Daniel makes me sick. If he was truly sorry about leaving Bree, he would go back to her and make sure she is okay. Some friend. by earthinsoul on 2006-12-11 15:49:01 whoa. do none of you realize that the guys that made this project aren't running the other fan stuff? that it's just people riffing on the project? they're all for it, of course, in the way George Lucas is all for free advertising and toy figurine sales. and the recent "chat with Bree"--you do realize that there's a person on staff who stands in for the actress in messages and chats? no? it's right there, in your "lgpedia." by Danie1beast on 2006-12-11 15:49:35 Elphia, 293, Yes Gemma said APHID meant acknowledge their Position and Help Initiate a Dialogue, but OpAphid's own clues are revealing a differnt meaning. He/she has only revealed through the letter I i believe, and I'm not sure what they are but they are in the forums. by Scooter on 2006-12-11 15:49:38 Okay skip me if you want cause im being random and recapping... - So Danbeast is home. - There are hidden cams in his room. - Bree is with Jonas refusing his shaved almonds. - My boss just came in and looked at this and said "ohhhhhh kayyyyyyyyyy" by voyboy on 2006-12-11 15:49:51 oh also elphie, when someone asked opaphid what they thought about Gemma's definition they replied something like "we tell children many fairy tales" or something to that affect. by Scooter on 2006-12-11 15:50:43 #329 NAXAN Dear god, NO! The confluence of bundt cake and orange! Wait, they will probably just even each other out with their opposing forces. Orange = evil Bundt cake = good therefore, orange bundt cake = neutral? by krig on 2006-12-11 15:51:59 #329 NAXAN, lol! I'll include it! Everyone at the support group meeting who does not run away screaming when having to bake this cake does not need the support group anymore... by Dream on 2006-12-11 15:53:08 Danie1beast, and your point is? :) we know all of this. The creators have confirmed that opaphid is a part of the series. The forums are run by volunteers. Another woman writes Bree's messages. yes yes we all know. by Scooter on 2006-12-11 15:53:33 #336 Dream Ok, I concede. Orange bundt cake can be the litmus test of LonelyCrack-ishness. by krig on 2006-12-11 15:54:36 "...and Bree I still l- care about you." Uh huh. But if he loved her so much why did he leave her with a guy he raved about hating? Danielbeast is fishy... by heatherlynn on 2006-12-11 15:54:37 Anyone want to guess what will be in Gemma's video tonight ? by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 15:55:04 Ummm...good + bad does not equal nuetral. If you put poison in something...say a sundae...with almonds...it will still kill you even though the sundae is good. Beware of those who will try to kill you by slipping evil into your good. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 15:55:37 geez.. what a friend. understandable.. but damn by SmilingIsMyFavorite on 2006-12-11 15:56:09 DRGLTS… ATSCO RHWOP KIIMA ENLES IOA AAI MFD. SR RTTSES EHHCDI VEALMO EPTOYN… AAHUV LSADI HSOO ICLS GHGT: HOH STUVD. OONE OBCR NEOE Here's the latest refusetobelievelies post...translation anyone? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 15:56:46 Dream #336 LOL !!!! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 15:57:10 krig, the litmus test of LonelyCrack-ishness... couldn't have put it better! by Dream on 2006-12-11 15:57:36 #340 NAXAN First she'll have a conniption and scream at Daniel and Bree. Then we'll hear some irrelevant stuff regarding her making out with a drummer in a club in LA, I mean, LONDON. by krig on 2006-12-11 15:57:41 IOI CWN ESN GTE RHR. This is the subject line by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 15:58:18 Btw, I have to say, I'm glad krig that you are still alive and not eaten by your cat in the night. And I'm glad things went pretty well for Grace at the play. And where is Marbella? I miss her (and her marbles - hopefully she's not missing them herself!) by physphile on 2006-12-11 15:59:37 WatchingOne - holy cow.. A Purple Degree? This whole time we've been thinking purple is our anti-orange cult protection only to find it's PART of the cult?! and now what about P. Monkey? Was TW right in his vid... does P. Monkey REALLY take over and do things his way when no one is watching?! FIIRSTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!! *saluting!!* by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-11 16:00:22 physphile (#348), thanks! They are quite pleased with me today because I fed them a little bit early. All limbs intact! by krig on 2006-12-11 16:01:20 Kimmy, "233 Spiletta42–Oooh, yeah, you might be onto something with the mortgage company. Are they usually sinister?" Well maybe it's just me, but I think so. If you don't pay them (perform the ceremony) then they take your house and leave you homeless . . . by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-11 16:01:48 Elphie: ICE GROWS THINNER by physphile on 2006-12-11 16:02:02 #349!!! I didn't think of p. monkey being evil! But this ties in...he is a secondary cause of evil as the cult had bugged him back at Bree's house! Dun dun dun... by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 16:02:39 #343 DARKER THINGS WILL COME TO PASS... I AM SO AFRAID REVEAL THE PAS(t) THAT HAS CLOUDED MY VISION HIGH SCHOOL GHOST: SOON TO BE UNCOVERED by Perky on 2006-12-11 16:03:08 Danie1beast - Do you and others like you not realize that you look like complete morons posting your inane conspiracy theories about the LG15 series? You really do. You really really really really really really really really really really do! by voyboy on 2006-12-11 16:05:16 Ok, got to go eat dinner. Will check back later to see how things are going. by krig on 2006-12-11 16:05:56 Elphielives - Post #122 says it all.... Also, some more on Bree: Brigid bore the name of one of the most powerful goddesses of the pagan religion that Dubhthach practised. Brigid was the goddess of fire, whose manifestations were song, craftsmanship, and poetry, which the Irish considered the flame of knowledge. Some houses in Ireland have a Brigid's Cross, it is a commonly believed by some that a Brigid's Cross protects the house from fire. A new cross is made each St Brigid's Day, February 1, and the OLD ONE IS THEN BURNED to keep the fire from the house. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 16:06:08 #343 DARKER THINGS WILL COME TO PASS… I AM SO AFRAID REVEAL THE PAS(t) THAT HAS CLOUDED MY VISION HIGH SCHOOL GHOST: SOON TO BE UNCOVERED by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 16:06:13 Damn. Just beat me Perky! by Rebelgoddess on 2006-12-11 16:07:07 Is there anyone willing to explain the whole anagram things to me please? Where did they suddenly come from and do they have any significance to the show? I understand all the other aspects but just not the anagram bit lol If theres an LGPedia page about them I shall have a look. Also does anyone know if itscassie is cannon? by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 16:07:35 #361 WOW, :) by klvz on 2006-12-11 16:08:38 High school ghost - Cassie? Or is Refusetobelievelies talking about her own high school ghost? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 16:12:35 nobby there are anagram pages. i need a minute to get the link... or Dream will probably beat me to it. :-) by Perky on 2006-12-11 16:13:53 In demonology, Paimon is one of the Kings of Hell, more obedient to Lucifer than other kings are, and has two hundred (one hundred to other authors) legions of demons under his rule. He has a great voice and roars as soon as he comes, speaking in this manner for a while, until the conjurer compels him and then he answers clearly the questions he is asked. When the conjurer invokes this demon he must look towards the northwest (the west to other authors), for there is where he has his house, and when Paimon appears he must be allowed to ask what he wishes and be answered, in order to obtain the same from him. by modelmotion on 2006-12-11 16:14:41 #363 cheers Perky they just seemed to appear out of nowhere lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 16:15:20 ...and Holly, nice try and trying to sound like a normal member.....but its not gonna work. by modelmotion on 2006-12-11 16:15:55 http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Refusetobelievelies for refusetobelievelies/Rebel and more info if you click on UtNbErS tutlaEN somewhere on that page. by Perky on 2006-12-11 16:16:19 http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=RefusEtoBeliEveLies Probably not beating you... by Dream on 2006-12-11 16:16:57 Close! by Dream on 2006-12-11 16:17:21 nobby - Dream has been pushing herself to a nervous breakdown trying to maintain the refusetobelievelies page... fortunately, gemmasflatmate is around to give her a hand. They get the cheers. ;-) by Perky on 2006-12-11 16:17:59 Lgpedia entry for l'care http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=L%27care It's rough, but it's my first entry :) Gonna go play with the practice page..... by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 16:18:12 Cheers Perky and Dream muchly appreciated :) by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 16:18:19 In Babylonian mythology the Asakku were one type of Mesopotamian evil spirits and monsters, classed with good spirits as Utukku. Asakku demons attack and kill human beings, especially by means of head fevers. They are mentioned in poetical enumerations of diseases, and are named for Asag, a monstrous demon whom the god Ninurta/Ningirsu defeated. Other types of demon were the Edimmu by modelmotion on 2006-12-11 16:19:18 If itscassie is canon, then their production quality is going down hill. Because that looks like a boy with a plastic wig and lipstick. by gracie on 2006-12-11 16:20:11 Kimmy - Congrats on your first lgpedia page!! modelmotion - where did all the demon talk come from? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 16:21:51 *blushes* *composes herself* *bows* by Dream on 2006-12-11 16:26:51 Daniel.... I'M GLAD YOU MANNED UP!!! Now you can get your life together... I hope the creators don't involve him again unless its just to rub shit in Bree's face. I'm glad he hid the money from Bree... she is the most annoying character on Earth. They need some hot characters. And I'm not hating on the show.... I like it... especially now that Daniel isn't acting like such a push over. by jayusmc1986 on 2006-12-11 16:28:07 I'm kinda with the majority that its fanfic but it's alot of trouble to go to if it isn't canon! That page certainly helped so thanks Dream and for doing that page and gemmasflatmate for helping her, I certainly understand more now lol although I still wanna know why they suddenly appeared lol any thoughts as to why they appeared after so long of LG15 being up and running? I haven't gotta clue lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 16:32:10 Gemma's Flatmate I've thought about it...- I KNOW the Order is watching - The question is - are they ready to listen for a change? by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 16:32:46 WHAT A FUCKING DICK! I'm sorry for the foul language. But that twinkie eating, comic book reading dick wad deserves to be gang raped by a bunch of inbred, train hopping, mortgage brokers. Who was the one who started this mess in the first place? Hmmm, let's see. Who made Bree question her religion? Who made Bree think the ceremony wasn't safe? Who started stalking Bree, when she told him to go away? Who kept stalking Bree, after she begged him not to? Who broke into someone's home, just to see what was there? Who ditched the car just because some guy on the internet told him it was bugged (because everyone knows if it's on the internet it must be true)? The answers to these questions are all the same (not orange slurpee). Daniel. Hey Daniel, Look over here. *raises arm, makes a fist and sticks out middle finger* You'll always be number one in my book buddy. by Joe on 2006-12-11 16:35:38 ABundtCakeMixWatcher Isn't blue the opposet of orange? by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-11 16:44:10 Spiletta42--Nice, I didn't see the mortgage company-homeless connection before. I'd like it if he was leaving clues. I sorta feel like a lot of times videos will seem to be clue-laden, but then nothing will come of it. Like that P. Monkey Date one is still bugging me--It sticks out so much! Anyways, if it turns out that Daniel isn't actually a jerk, I'm all for that. by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 16:44:26 (leaps with joy) OK guys I got my first note and guess who was it from...YUP REBEL....From: refusetobelievelies To: pretty_mely22 Subject: IOI CWN ESN GTE RHR. Date sent: 2006-12-11 15:56:21 Date read: 2006-12-11 16:42:13 Note: DRGLTS… ATSCO RHWOP KIIMA ENLES IOA AAI MFD. SR RTTSES EHHCDI VEALMO EPTOYN… AAHUV LSADI HSOO ICLS GHGT: HOH STUVD. OONE OBCR NEOE I don't know how to do anagrams..but I'm going to try to solve this one..unless one of the experts have already done so..If so, thanks in advance :) Here is what is read... by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-11 16:46:45 I can't help but think Gemma is going to go off, since Bree and Daniel aren't doing 'the right thing'...but, now, how does she get Bree back where she wants her ? From 'Bad Decisions' Gemma : I told you to go home. I don't know what else I can do. I feel like I've given you all the advice and information that I have and you're not listening. And this Jonas character, I don't trust him. (Sigh). by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 16:51:56 Cue the Watcher sneaking up on Daniel... Posted the next day by Op Aphid as a warning or as bait for Bree after being recorded by their hidden cameras. Btw, I think I kinda kicked @ss on my Civil Procedure exam. Of course, everyone may have and we're graded on a curve, but hey! I knew my stuff! I was so smiley when I walked out, and I ended up walking with my dog around the block singing in an incredibly out-of-tune voice to "All Star" (which was playing on my headphones). :P A few people looked at me funny, but the people in my classes just smiled. They're used to me. Ok, well, I'm going to go drink wine and watch a movie with a friend. I'm going to try and forget that I have ANOTHER exam Thursday until tomorrow morning when I jump back on the study train. Later, guys! by Lizard on 2006-12-11 16:53:51 DRGLTS… ATSCO RHWOP KIIMA ENLES DRGLTS… ATSCO RHWOP KIIMA ENLES DARKER THINGS WILL COME TO PASS... by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 16:57:33 P.S. Wow. Joe... Your in a cool dark forest... a cool dark forest... breathe... :P by Lizard on 2006-12-11 16:57:45 Hey, that's great Lizard!! I'm trying to study for my Quantum Mechanics exam right now, silly Feynman Path Integrals... I hate exam time! Enjoy your rest, Lizard, sounds like you earned it!! by physphile on 2006-12-11 16:59:37 #383 see #354 by Perky on 2006-12-11 17:00:19 Ok I thought I was being clever cos I the anagram out for the first time only for it to have already been posted :( I feel a fool lol even more so now I've told everyone lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:02:41 Congrats on your exams so far, Lizard. My last one is tomorrow, but it'll be an easy one. Joe, take a deep breath. We're with you buddy. by elliemae on 2006-12-11 17:03:21 worked* by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:03:36 Good luck Lizard *flips quarter in the air* by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 17:04:04 You guys who are finished with exams are so lucky...mine don't start til Friday...I won't be home for Christmas til Dec. 20th!!! And Joe, your outburst is not helping you regain my trust. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 17:08:22 I just realised the time and now think I'm officially a lonelycrack-head lol I have been on this page technically 4 and a half hours :( and posted my first set of comments! I feel I've contributed well with my theories though lol (#165 for those interested lol) I aint going to bed yet tho! The UK might be sleeping but I'm staying with the americans lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:10:07 #390 nobby1985 No, don't feel like a fool! Enthusiasm about the anagrams is greeted with enthusiasm from the Cipher Crew! :) by Dream on 2006-12-11 17:10:38 nobby... get used to the anagrams anyways! some of us who solve them actually sleep and stuff, nothing wrong with having people around who can do it in our stead! by Perky on 2006-12-11 17:11:59 POST #300---DEACONS Is this post for real? and by "real" I mean part of the show... Should we be paying attention to it? by sabrin on 2006-12-11 17:12:33 I doubt that this is the last you will see of Daniel, the order will probably pick him up and ask him questions on how to locate bree, because im sure they knew they ran off together. by lovethatsara on 2006-12-11 17:13:24 400? by Perky on 2006-12-11 17:14:27 #396 Dream Well after reading your LGPedia page about the anagrams and learning how to do them hopefully I can eventually get quicker at them lol Seein as its mainly an american Cipher Crew maybe there should be a UK Faction of the Cipher Crew for important UK things lol (don't ask me what though lol) by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:14:45 THE OLD GUY ON THE TRAIN? YOU GUESSED IT NONE OTHER THEN OWEN WILSON. THANKYOU CREATORS FOR BRINGING IN OWEN WILSON I FELT HE REALLY ADDED TO THE STORY!!! by jackthedog on 2006-12-11 17:15:46 I still kind of hate him for abandoning Bree, but at least he's not in such a foul mood. And man, this dude's a really good actor--his eyes said so much when he was talking about Bree. That's love right there, folks. by sisipie on 2006-12-11 17:16:34 402 - 401 = F I R S T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by jackthedog on 2006-12-11 17:17:02 SERENITY NOW! SERENTY NOW! Lizard, Congrats on kicking some civil procedure @ss. I guess I did blow up there. This just reminds me of when my best friend abandoned me when I needed her the most. I wasn't being chased by a cult, but it still hurt. I still refer to her as a certain word that is almost spelled like cult. What really ticked me off was that he complained that his mom didn't miss him. BOO HOO! Grow up and cut the cord already. He talked about how he got back home, and only at the end did he give a half-assed phony apology. And where did he get the money for the twinkie and comic book? Me thinks someone was holding out on Bree. *raises both hands, makes two fists and sticks out both middle fingers* SERENITY NOW! SERENTY NOW! by Joe on 2006-12-11 17:17:19 #401 nobby1985 Actually, I'm German. And addicted enough to stay up until 2 or 3 in the morning... by Dream on 2006-12-11 17:18:08 Joe, At least today we learned, that if you want that 5.9% fixed for 30 years, hop on a train ! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 17:18:28 nobby -- actually, I think I am one of the few Americans on the crew... Bones, Dream, and gemmasflatmate are from points elsewhere by Perky on 2006-12-11 17:18:31 Yeah, as for the Gemma in the US...that crossed my mind about a week ago when everyone was saying that her accent sounded fake, and you never really see anybody else or anything out a window. Maybe her accent is fake because she's faking being British, even in the show. But.... haven't watched the video yet cause it won't load correctly on YouTube or on Revver right now. :/ by fan on 2006-12-11 17:19:47 #450 I Love It! SERENITY NOW!!!!!!!! by Perky on 2006-12-11 17:20:17 There and Back Again - by Daniel Baggins Just one of those crazy road trips. It was her idea - her parents were away. We got robbed. She got loopy. I got paranoid. Dumped the car. It ended up being one of those deals where you eat garbage and sleep in an abandoned building. Then she moved on to some rich guy! Typical. Oh well, hobos and twinkies on the way home. - The end. by marshja on 2006-12-11 17:22:03 #406 & #408 ahhhh so it's more of an international crew then, cool lol I never really realised how many different nationalitys actually watched this lol I think I've only noticed 1 or 2 from the UK but then there hasn't been a single bit of media attention on it, well not that I've seen anyway lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:22:16 Hmm.. daniel still lurves bree! Maybe she will abandon jonas in the night, and jonas will come after her as a bad guy, and daniel will see her trying to escape video, and try to help her!! Yeah i want that by Allamericangirl on 2006-12-11 17:23:21 We've had media attention about it in the US? Where've I been? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 17:24:04 Elphielives, Purple and Blue have always been the anti-orange. That's why Bree always keeps P. Monkey around, to protect her. I'm not sure who came up with Blue and Purple. I think it has something to do with color codes and decorating. It was too long ago to remember exactly. But it is well established by the OSC that purple and blue are good, orange evil. Ask any veteran of the OSC. Lizard, Sydney, Hooray, anyone? They abandoned me. I feel just like Bree. by Joe on 2006-12-11 17:26:52 wow thats kool that ur home and daniel if u know the # where bree is u should call her and c how shes doing and have her make a vid.! im anxious by bradbo on 2006-12-11 17:27:22 nobby1985 : www.wired.com/wired/ by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 17:27:35 #414 I thought I saw a vid of Jessica on Jay Leno or David Letterman or a show like that when it was revealed it was fake! Aren't them shows pretty national in america? I just thought there had been some media coverage in america maybe I was wrong lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:29:39 Joe - Have you read watchingone's article on the Orange Order? It's post #271...purple is a secondary part of the Orange Order. Very disturbing and disheartening. And also kind of freaky that the Orange Order exists and is related to the freemasons, which someone tried to link Bree to. The coincidences are starting to freak me out. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 17:30:20 ahhhhh...he almost said "Bree I still lo-." I have know idea were any of this is going...I am very worried about Bree staying alone at Jona's house. Daniel shoul be feeling guilty about that one. can't wait for next video. by bettyboop7 on 2006-12-11 17:32:07 #418 there probably has been...I'm a poor college student with no cable, so I wouldn't get to see much of that stuff anyway...therefore I am addicted to lonelygirl :) by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 17:32:14 So, according to Tachyon's video of Gemma... does this mean that Gemma is really in San Francisco? Cause all of tachyon's videos are based on locations in SF/bay area (ie-golden gate park windmills, ocean beach, petaluma up in sonoma) by melissa1 on 2006-12-11 17:32:52 #417 Cheers Naxan I take it wired is an american magazine? by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:33:06 NAXAN, I'm still renting. When you buy a home it attracts the wrong type of women (aka nesters). by Joe on 2006-12-11 17:34:16 #421 ahhh righty oh lol cool well I'm officailly a lonelycrack-head lol I declared it in one of my earlier posts! *stands up* "Hi I'm Nobby1985 and I'm addicted to lonelygirl15" *applause for admitting his problem* by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:39:55 Elphielives, I skimmed through the article just now. I'm now taking cough syrup with codine in it so my brain can't concentrate for too long (good thing these videos are short). I've been asleep for 18 hours and am still tired. But from what I did read it looks like the Orange order and Royal Arch Purple are enemies. NO? Where is Grace? Am I the only veteran OSC here. by Joe on 2006-12-11 17:44:02 I can't believe he let Bree go with a total stranger. What a best friend he turned out to be. What a gutless coward. by P_Monkey_Rules on 2006-12-11 17:44:46 nobby, gooood, that's the first step,... here have some bundt cake... ah, Joe, think you'll get hate mail for #424 ? by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 17:45:17 Joe - Okay, I just read the full articles, and I think you're right. Before I just saw them listed under the same heading and assumed they were two parts of the same organization. My apologies, you have my trust again. And now it's become even more creepy that this stuff is actually real...I might not be able to sleep tonight. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 17:49:15 Joe- Yes sir....I go out and dont have a decent conversation with a woman until she finds out I have my own 2-story house. Nester's. You called it man. Sad but true. by JeffParish on 2006-12-11 17:50:23 Naxan, Yeah, no one is going to like that nesters joke. It was the drugs talking, honest. I'm renting for other reasons. I'm immature, I have commitment issues. by Joe on 2006-12-11 17:52:29 #428 so whats in this bundt cake? nothing suspicious I hope!! lol I've never seen it in the UK so appreciate it that ya giving me a bit lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 17:53:51 #431 Nothing wrong with admitting the truth :-) by Perky on 2006-12-11 17:54:59 JeffParish, That was really sexist, you should apologize. *whispering* blame it on the drugs. by Joe on 2006-12-11 17:59:31 Jeff and Joe... relax, any girl that can't laugh about what most of us already know to be true is living on the river Denial anyways... by Perky on 2006-12-11 18:01:24 You know what is ABSOLUTELY crazy hardly any of you are paying attention. The Deacons post at #300 is asking us for our help. They are all about co-ordinates and stuff like that maybe with our help we can save Bree from Jonas. Maybe they will ask us to go places find clue post videos on what we find to help the Deacons out. I believe that the Deacons are good people or at least believe their intentions are good. Lets say Jonas (and his poisionous sundae) have put Bree into like a trance coma state (IT WAS EXTREMELY SUSCPICOUS TO ME THAT HE WAS ASKED TO EDIT THE VIDEO AND WE DIDNT HEAR ANYTHING FROM BREE). Daniel doesnt know where Jonas is and hell he could move her anywhere now that he has her. The Order may know where she is because they knew where Jonas was in the last post. If the Order is so Bad and Jonas is a bad guy then why are they asking for help. They have her now. They CANT be bad they have to be good people. That Norvus ordum seclorum or however it is spelled is on the back of the dollar bill and it means like New world order. A belief that the Freemasons hold true so if the order is Masonic as we have already assumed and put together then they believe in the betterment of mankind that is what the organization was founded on and Aleister Crowley was a mason. Your voting to holly to put Bree in a situation with Jonas with all the warnings made... you all Grigori. I know its ARG but come on you realize you wanted the story to go one way and you decided to take the route of the Grigori (Evil watchers). I think what has happened and with the new information from the Deacons there are 2 sides to this the Good Watchers and you who I now will refer to as Grigori. I will do all I can to save Bree whether it be doing what the deacons ask of us or whatever. If I have to find Jonas and stop him I will. For the Order. by Marcus on 2006-12-11 18:03:46 Soooooo... has anyone figured out the name of the actor playing Jonas yet? by becky on 2006-12-11 18:04:34 nobby, We serve bundt cake at every support group meetings for LonelyCrack. You could make a cheese tray for the next meeting. Joe, *wispering*always blame it on the drugs... by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 18:06:29 um ... did anyone hear me? (#422) Does anyone else think Gemma in SF? by melissa1 on 2006-12-11 18:07:36 Elphielives, You doubted me. I let you in the OSC and then you accuse me of being a traitor. I'm hurt. *lies on bed and cries, quickly falls asleep from the codine* I hate this drug. I really, really hate it. It doesn't even get rid of the cough, except for when I'm sleeping. by Joe on 2006-12-11 18:08:18 has anyone even read post 300? by becky on 2006-12-11 18:09:48 #438 when are the meetings held? I shall sort a cheese tray out! I'm guessing you mean a tray with different sorts of cheese on and not a tray made out of cheese lol Any requests as to what cheese to bring? by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 18:10:25 becky, It is supposed to be Jackson Davis : www.myspace.com/jacksun0024 by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 18:10:41 thanks so much NAXAN, I was looking through all the posts to see if anyone had found it or not. You area a very helpful person and I appreciate you... **HUG** aw. Now that post 300, real or fake? by becky on 2006-12-11 18:12:39 I just saw the tachyon video. Obviously the girl playing Gemma is in the US and somewhere in California. I hope this guy is part of the story. Otherwise we have a really obsessed fan stalking people. by Joe on 2006-12-11 18:12:45 Joe, you've been sick for so long. :( Is it pneumonia? Have you been taking vitamins? Were you poisoned? Did you drink the slurpee? Get better, dude. by elliemae on 2006-12-11 18:13:01 #439 I mentioned something about Gemma's appearence in the Tachyon vid in my post, #165, considering she is supposed to be in the UK it looked to me like an american neighbour hood! In my travels around the UK I've never seen a street like that! I also said is this a simple mistake by the creators or has Gemma actually gone to america for the storyline and this is the way of introducing us to that part of it! by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 18:13:40 Omg...he almost said he loved her! ahhhh i love it and post 300...have we figured out its authenticity yet? by sydney on 2006-12-11 18:14:42 Hey everyone, Just thought I'd mention that I think our resident Rebel has changed her profile description and pic yet again... I'm still figuring out what it says... Cheers, -Tegz by I Love Billy on 2006-12-11 18:17:04 Cassie posted a video earlier - is she part of the story? - that said Bree was safe with Jonas and Daniel is actually the one in danger. Input anyone? by Perky on 2006-12-11 18:17:07 the girl playing gemma is jackie http://profile.myspace.com/32301116 by becky on 2006-12-11 18:17:33 mellisa1, I don't think Gemma is in SF, or London. becky, the 'Deacons' have been arround for quite awhile, but, generally they are fans putting out extraneous info...(did I just say extraneous ? and I'm not taking codine...:(...) by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 18:18:14 The Deacons are still a wild card. At least they are consistent. by modelmotion on 2006-12-11 18:19:22 holy crap i had to look it up to figure out what it meant. The Deasons are just fans even though they signed up here the same day as Jonas? by becky on 2006-12-11 18:20:27 #450 Perky I had some thoughts about it in my post #324 see what ya think, pretty far fetched but I was just happy to make some kind of contribution lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 18:20:32 In the Tachyon video we do not know if it is the character or the actress ie Gemma or Jackie. It could be either if they have started to stalk the actors......which would be the logical thing to do if u live in LA. by modelmotion on 2006-12-11 18:21:35 Kimmy, awesome job on the l'care LGpedia page. Lizard, congrats for kicking @ss on your exam! Enjoy your night off! NAXAN, do I need to make another bundt cake for nobby? Hi nobby, I'm krig! Nice to have you aboard! Welcome to the LonelyCracks! by krig on 2006-12-11 18:22:39 #457 krig thanks for welcomeing me the support from everyone whilst I cope with this addiction is just what I need! People outside the LG15 world just don't understand! by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 18:25:25 becky, jonastko is registered #38 jonas #904 Deacons # 198 only the first 35 users registered are part of the story, there is an LGpedia page we made about the registration #s : www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Member_directory by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 18:25:43 #449 Thank you, Dream has been keeping track for the LGPedia page and she had to sleep... but I will let her know. It reads: UNTIL FEAR CONSUMES MY INSIDES: I PROMISE THE ICE SHALL NOT BREAK FROM WITHIN IT WILL BE ME BREAKING IT FROM THE OUTSIDE... FEAR OF THE DARK SHATTERED I WOULD SACRIFICE MY SOUL FOR THOSE WHO CARE... THEY SAID I WOULD LOOK PRETTY: WITH A BULLET THROUGH MY CHEST by Perky on 2006-12-11 18:26:48 ok, I have been following this since the bgeinning, when Bree was just the cute dorky kid we all knew and loved. I check here everyday for vids (even got caught by my boss once). I skim thru all the posts for interesting info, and I hardly ever contribute. I feel like an @ss now... by becky on 2006-12-11 18:28:29 elliemae, I get a very annoying cough every year. It is always really bad and takes a very long time to go away, usually 3 months. I don't react well to drugs, so it basically comes down to cough up a lung or feel like I'm going to die. This year it's worse. None of the medicine is working and I still feel like I'm going to die. by Joe on 2006-12-11 18:34:05 becky #461, We're glad you are now ! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 18:34:27 Well, get on in here and start contributing, becky! Welcome and have some bundt cake! by krig on 2006-12-11 18:34:58 ooohkaaaayy, Marcus? Anyone read his post? 436. Go read it. by Scooter on 2006-12-11 18:35:28 Could someone tell me, message me or however--what happens in the new cassie vid? can't watch it, they freak me out too much haha but i'd like to know what happened. BIG THANKS!!!! by StandingInLine on 2006-12-11 18:35:32 #455 Nobby I think you make a good point... I felt the exact same way when watching it (that it was like it was Jonas outside the door! especially since the feet were socked, and no shoes). I hate this game... so addicted... by Perky on 2006-12-11 18:35:37 Marcus #436, I also think it strange that the Deacon's post has gotten no responce. In the good old days this thing would have been torn to pieces in no time. by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-11 18:37:42 Well night all I've been here about 5 hours and its 1:30am here so I really gotta go as I gotta be up at 6:00am! See ya all at the next video unless I end up back on before, what with being a lonelycrack - head will be most probable lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-11 18:38:35 Ok.. So he doesn't want to use his car because it can lead the Order to where he is... then he goes back to his home which the Order allready knows. Good thinking Daniel........... by anironminuial on 2006-12-11 18:40:47 As to post #300, 'tag you're it'... by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 18:41:25 #466...hahaha I am the same way, freak me out so bad that can't leave my bed after I watch them, not even to go, you know... hahaha. I am glad I am not the only one! So yea, someone please tell us what happens, but not the freaky parts cuz I gotta go, ya know, relieve myself. by becky on 2006-12-11 18:42:52 Jonas was just on utube....mabye a new vid l8r 2nite? by modelmotion on 2006-12-11 18:43:54 Just in case no one else has posted... From: refusetobelievelies To: joannp38 Subject: IOI CWN ESN GTE RHR. Date sent: 2006-12-11 15:56:10 Date read: 2006-12-11 18:42:54 Note: DRGLTS… ATSCO RHWOP KIIMA ENLES IOA AAI MFD. SR RTTSES EHHCDI VEALMO EPTOYN… AAHUV LSADI HSOO ICLS GHGT: HOH STUVD. OONE OBCR NEOE by JoAnnP38 on 2006-12-11 18:44:36 Ahh, poor Joe. I know just how you feel. Last time I had that cough I was in California. I was too sick to have fun and everyone else was out partying. by elliemae on 2006-12-11 18:45:02 modelmotion, god i hope you're right. i could use a new one tonight before bedtime. by elliemae on 2006-12-11 18:46:09 jonas was logged in 25 mins ago and daniel and hour ago on youtube by becky on 2006-12-11 18:46:27 Regarding the Tachyon video Gemma (Part 1), could someone answer me these questions: 1. Tachyon is part of the official ARG for Lonelygirl15 right? And if so, does that not mean that Tachyon is like a 'character' and therefore would be able to film them readily without having to resort to stalking? I've never played with an ARG before so I don't know this :( 2. Could it be possible that if the above is true, and the story is moving so that it shows Gemma entering an obviously American home, perhaps Gemma really is part of the Order, is working with the likes of Lucy? And was lying this whole time saying she was over in the UK, when really she was in the States the whole time, trying to lead Bree back into the Orders hands? It may not be too far fetched really. Perhaps this video was made by sneaky little Tachyon to alert us to Gemma being a flat out lying member of the Order, and therefore untrustworthy. Let me know your two cents. If you want send me a personal note too, sifting through all these comments takes a long time!...and I'm trying to limit my Lonelycrack use ;) by Amanda88 on 2006-12-11 18:46:30 I feel like a part of the reason I don't feel like tearing the Deacons' post to pieces is that we have been dealing with so many anagrams and such lately, it seems like everything extraneous is possibly fanfic. by krig on 2006-12-11 18:46:53 Ooh becky, good work (#477). Hopefully that means new video! by krig on 2006-12-11 18:48:23 God I hope it happens before I go to bed. I have only once been on when they were uploading and how exciting it was! (I admit, I am a lonely crack whore) hahaha by becky on 2006-12-11 18:50:27 Amanda88, yea I think Tachyon will turn up as 'A Character' at some point, I once noted that if you move the letters you get 'on yachT'...lol. by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 18:52:29 #478 Amanda88 1. Yes, Tachyon is part of the official ARG, so therefore her character is not essential to understanding the LG15 saga, but it helps to be familiar with a bit of what she's up to. She would be able to film them readily, but she is supposedly on the run from OpAphid. If Gemma is working for them, that is why Tachyon would need to hide. 2. Yes, this is what we have been wondering since that video was posted. You are probably correct that Tachyon is posting this information to give us the insight on Gemma. What I want to know is if there are any Gemma supporters left now? :) by krig on 2006-12-11 18:53:06 tachyon is on a yacht and a possible character, wow how does he upload? No need to answer, just being silly... I crack myself up, really. by becky on 2006-12-11 18:54:10 #480 krig, I'm right there with you. The anagrams and puzzles are great for interactivity - especially since a lot of it is through personal communications (which Dream has generously attempted to keep updated), but if things don't start to tie together soon, I think there is a crew of die-hards who will be too confused and tired to play along anymore. by Perky on 2006-12-11 18:54:12 Ok, dilemma. Do I stay and wait to see if a new vid is uploaded or do I go do some work? Agh! by krig on 2006-12-11 18:55:16 i meant, 479 by Perky on 2006-12-11 18:55:28 I still like Gemma. elliemae, Thank you, misery loves company. I hope Daniel gets a cough that won't go away. by Joe on 2006-12-11 18:56:44 ok i tried to watch the cassie vid with no sound and still couldn't get past Jonas' feet under the door? Man it freaks me out. Someone help, maybe just the points of the video that actually matter? by becky on 2006-12-11 18:59:44 I think I may actually like Gemma more if she's being used by the order... I don't think I'm going to try to psychoanalyze the above statement by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 19:00:50 HA! by becky on 2006-12-11 19:03:22 #485 Perky I know! It's getting hard to keep up with everything, from the canon stuff to the non-canon stuff, I don't know how much more I can take! Three cheers for Dream even though she's asleep! hip hip hooray hip hip hooray hip hip hooray by krig on 2006-12-11 19:03:41 Almost 500 comments so someone probably mentioned this - doesn't anyone else think that based on Daniel's story it would have taken much longer than two days to come home with all the adventures he had with his new hobo friends (plus he had time to 'shower all day' and get a haircut?) by gnome on 2006-12-11 19:06:58 For Dream... hip hip hooray! At this point... I truly cannot sort out what is canon and what isn't. Dream, gemmas flatmate, Rebelgoddess, and I tried to sort out the anagrams today to no avail. For Becky... Cassie says "I'm glad you're safe with Jonas... Some Elders left yesterday looking for you... Your parents are gone, they may not be dead but they have been moved... Daniel's in trouble, leaving Bree could cost your life". And of course... the creepy socked feet at the door... by Perky on 2006-12-11 19:09:37 Deacons at 300: Q. Have you a number? A. I have. Q. What is your number? A. 3. Q. What 3? A. The 300. Q. What 300? A. The 300 chosen Israelites that lapped but did not kneel. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 19:10:55 gnome Guess they weren't too far away, huh? The train he had to hop was probably the commuter rail. Walter actually WAS a mortgage broker! by krig on 2006-12-11 19:12:10 For Grace, 500th !!!!! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:12:36 for gnome... They didn't drive too far, he could feasibly get home rather quickly by train....if they didn't drive too far, which I really dont think they did. Please correct me if I am wrong. by becky on 2006-12-11 19:12:56 firsttttt salute! by becky on 2006-12-11 19:13:19 first at 500 by becky on 2006-12-11 19:13:37 Okay...just pretending this is all real: Does Daniel actually expect his life to go back to normal after this? His best friend has clearly refused to come home, so he'll probably never see her again. A creepy cult was chasing him and taking pictures, and he just helped their main target get away. People have disappeared over this matter. You can't just go back to normal living after something like this. I can't understand what he's thinking. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 19:13:38 For Grace, 500th !!!!!!!!!!! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:13:49 yesssssssss by becky on 2006-12-11 19:13:59 What if he really didn't leave? Jonas could have filmed him walking down the street, but DB could be in the bedroom at Jonas' house. by Jen on 2006-12-11 19:15:27 NAXAN! Crap, I finally get the joke in your name! *smack myself on the head by becky on 2006-12-11 19:15:48 Elphielives, I said the same thing after he said he bought a Twinkie, Daniel, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ? by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:15:52 gnome--I think that is weird...Especially how he was like "I FINALLY made it home"--like wow, it took him a whole 24 hours? by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 19:16:22 #495 Wait. Bree's cult has something to do with the Israel? For some reason I felt like their religion had nothing to do with Christianity, Judaism, Islam, or any of the more common religions. Although I suppose that would add a twist to everything... by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 19:16:48 What's the joke with NAXAN's name? by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 19:17:40 Elphie--that's why I think he's had a total break with reality...someone needs to slap him or dunk his head in cold water...unfortunately, I think maybe he won't snap out of it until the order snatches him (or Bree) by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 19:18:42 gnome, It was one of those really fast trains. That goes really slow around residential areas. But really, really fast everywhere else. It approaches the speed of C. Which incidentally is the vitamin found in oranges. by Joe on 2006-12-11 19:19:00 lol maybe its just me and there is no joke... but NAXAN spell it front or back=same... switch the consenants and what do you get? XANAX thats what all us lonely crack addicts need, maybe we'll get some sleep and stop refreshing....lol, see? I crack myself up! by becky on 2006-12-11 19:20:06 NAXAN is a palindrome? by Joe on 2006-12-11 19:21:55 Ok so I was out Christmas shopping earlier today and I bought something at the toy store. My total came to $6.66!!! Ok, so no big deal right? No conspiracy here, that is until I asked the clerk what time it was and she said 7:11!!!!!! I almost peed myself. by selizabeth on 2006-12-11 19:22:37 yeah Joe...that too by becky on 2006-12-11 19:23:29 LOL, Joe, check out physphille's profile...lol. by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:24:11 Becky, I sent you a message that explains what happens in the itscassie video. by Joe on 2006-12-11 19:25:50 LOL Selizabeth (Also, in my mental image, I assumed you were buying yourself a P. Monkey) by Kimmy on 2006-12-11 19:26:21 selizabeth, Be afraid, be very afraid.... by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:26:22 And, I think the anagrams have gotten to becky... by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:27:23 Elphielives -Roots of a religion and the corruption of it are two different things by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 19:28:58 oh come on NAXAN...am I just totally off with the whole NAXAN=XANAX? way too similar... or I could just use some sleep by becky on 2006-12-11 19:30:08 by the way, i had to look up palindrome by becky on 2006-12-11 19:31:26 becky, not sure if you need sleep, but the XANAX, yes... by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:32:12 Naxan, So physphille's job must be to put up speed signs for really fast trains. How much does that pay? Is it per hour or sign? by Joe on 2006-12-11 19:32:24 Daniel went home, like the Watchers wanted. They'll get what they want now that they've listened to Gemma the undercover Orderwoman. DANIEL, YOU ARE AN IDIOT! GO TO BREE'S! THEY WON'T LOOK THERE! by luigikart on 2006-12-11 19:36:22 Joe, I think it was per sign....but where it goes really, really, fast, @ 'C', you have to post a sign every 100 feet or you don't see them. by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:36:54 Tired of the General and his soldiers always saying FIRST? Join Me and together we shall take back an internet community one comment at a time! *que in maniacal laughter* MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Viva La Revolucion! www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Colonel_Anti-First by Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-11 19:41:09 Oh that is sad that he couldnt even say he loves her. But we can tell he does. I dont think things will stop for him tho. The watchers will still watch him because they may not know for sure that Bree isnt with him anymore. She might still be with him but they are trying to throw the watchers off??? Guess we will have to wait and see. by Lynn on 2006-12-11 19:43:36 Well the codeine is kicking in again. Time to sleep and drool on my bed. Good night all. by Joe on 2006-12-11 19:43:37 Goodnight Joe- GET BETTER ! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:45:26 Good night, Joe! Feel better soon! NAXAN, I added a photo to my member profile just for you. by krig on 2006-12-11 19:45:33 So yes....I leave the lg site for one day and this happens?? I'm never going again!! lol *sits down with warm cup of chai tea* its official...I'm a lonelycrack addict........AHHHHHH lol and for the general........ FFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 19:45:35 colonel, you are the man! by becky on 2006-12-11 19:45:41 Grrr.. what's going to happen with Daniel and the plot of the series? If he's not with Bree.. what good does he serve on the series still? by bethany19 on 2006-12-11 19:46:01 something absolutely crazy is going to happen to daniel, I can smell it, and it smells good. sleep, i need sleeep by becky on 2006-12-11 19:48:17 528- FIRSTTTTTT!!!!!!11!!!`one!!eleven!!!!111111 by PaleNovember527 on 2006-12-11 19:50:00 ::::Drops a nuclear Orange slurpee on Colonel Anti-First:::: by modelmotion on 2006-12-11 19:50:45 Thanks for answering my post! :) I have no doubt this was already discussed extensively, but I'm trying to avoid sifting through hundreds of post for the sake of limiting my Lonelycrack exposure. (So far... not working too well...) by Amanda88 on 2006-12-11 19:50:52 Colonel? Where are you now? huh? by becky on 2006-12-11 19:51:26 FFIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSTTTT!!!!!!!111!!!!!1! (the general will never be defeated) by eno on 2006-12-11 19:53:27 krig, You would post that photo BEFORE I had dinner, oh heck, skip to dessert ! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 19:55:47 tee hee! enjoy! by krig on 2006-12-11 19:57:00 TSIOE HADKT EILPT YDORY... WBTUC IUTGH TLHHE HLRMS AEOYT. TMTAYO HEOIBD... EADNL YNRMO "FRBE OPLA RRUT MESH... YSH EEI VNN ETD WJOOP OUOUL USKTA LTSOC DLOFE." by SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL on 2006-12-11 19:59:07 hebrew and arabic (#300)? Don't tell me the Jews and the Arabs are getting pulled into this... by Determination on 2006-12-11 20:00:05 lol, before I start to receive notes filled with hateful and derogatory remarks, I would like to clarify a few things. First, I am just doing this all in good fun. I am trying to be mean or degrading, I just thought it would be enertaining for the members here to participate in a friendly competition. It should be thought of as another part of this communtiy that makes us so thankful to be apart of. Sort of like the whole orange slurpee thing, which is just another staple of this community which sets us apart from other communities on the internet. Second, you should read my page in the LGpedia and the descripition contained within my profile. Again, sorry if I came across as a jerk and Sorry for rambling! by Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-11 20:00:38 whoops, I meant NOT trying to be mean by Colonel Anti-First on 2006-12-11 20:01:25 People haven't been able to hop trains since the 70's. They only send full cars and even if there was room they lock them. Also - you had money!? And Bree ate out of the trash bin!? Shaaammee. by sonya_w on 2006-12-11 20:02:18 That was some of the shittiest acting i've ever seen. Good riddance Daniel. "Bree, i still LLLL.... care about u" ...what a horrible actor. by MadHadderall on 2006-12-11 20:02:32 It seems like Daniel is thinking a lot about "freedom." He talks about how his parents didn't notice he was gone, he talked a lot about the guy on the trains. I don't think he wants to ride trains for his whole life, but I think he wants a change. by livingsymphony on 2006-12-11 20:04:42 so i guess no daniel-to-the-rescue and why didnt you use your money to buy food for your sweetie??? mcdonalds is cheap (just stay away from the orange soda) welll i would stay and chat but my sister (older one...NOT the 6th grader) made a chicken stir-fry.....mmmmm dont worry, i told her not to use the orange bell peppers by Grace on 2006-12-11 20:06:25 #544 SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL (send note) Says: December 11th, 2006 at 7:59 pm TSIOE HADKT EILPT YDORY… WBTUC IUTGH TLHHE HLRMS AEOYT. TMTAYO HEOIBD… EADNL YNRMO “FRBE OPLA RRUT MESH… YSH EEI VNN ETD WJOOP OUOUL USKTA LTSOC DLOFE.†THEY SAID I'D LOOK PRETTY WITH A BULLET THROUGH MY CHEST. THEY MEAN TO DRAIN MY BLOOD... "FOR MY EVER PRESENT BLUSHIN DEATH WOULD JUST LOOK SO OUT OF PLACE" by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:06:29 they said id look pretty... with a bullet through my chest they mean to drain my blood for my ever present blush in death would just look so out of place whew! by becky on 2006-12-11 20:06:38 eek. REBEL is a suicidal creep. *sings along* the world will never ever be the same....and you're to blame..... by Grace on 2006-12-11 20:08:31 I have just decided, since Rebel is not Cassie, she must be Gemma trying to give us a code that she is under penalty of death working for the bad guys (whoever the hell that is at this point)... but trying to communicate to the good guys (again, no clue how to define that) by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:11:32 That was a creepy message from REBEL....wow..... by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:12:52 Hello Perky and Grace! by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:14:53 hello annizzle.....be back in 20. dinnertime :-p by Grace on 2006-12-11 20:15:28 becky, good job ! I still think this is here to throw us off ! by NAXAN on 2006-12-11 20:16:59 Hi Annizzle, welcome back :-) by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:17:07 wow, i contributed the crap outta this video, its time for bed, be back tomorrow, in the shadows...I'll comment from now on though by becky on 2006-12-11 20:18:06 good point about daniel having money and bree eating of trash #548 sonya. there are a number of reasons why this could be. 1. He panhandled for the money after he left bree. 2. Perhaps the money was hidden amoung his things in his backpack and he only found it later. 3. He came home, the order was there and he is trying to speak in code. Which kinda makes sense when you think about it - I think my dad would freak if one of my brothers - even my bad ass one - went for THREE WEEKS without contacting anyone. My dad certainly would want to know where the car was even if they did drive a beaters. 4. simple incongruity/ bad writing by gnome on 2006-12-11 20:18:51 Kinda late, but goodnight Joe!! Hope you feel better, and try to let the codiene mellow you out. B&D will get back together, with D giving a proper apology (I'm pretty steamed at him, too!!!). by physphile on 2006-12-11 20:19:03 ok Grace:) Thanks Perky! :) I'm almost done finals, I can almost go back to relaxing, lol.....Saturday can't come soon enough! by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:20:11 Hey, a passing thought - Cyanide tastes like bitter almonds. Jonas's sundae's signature flair was almond flakes. Poisoning Bree, are we?? by physphile on 2006-12-11 20:21:51 one more thing to add to my comment #562 - it doesn't make sense that he left bree b/c he didn't trust jonas now he is thanking him for taking care of her - it would make more sense for him to beg Bree to come home. by gnome on 2006-12-11 20:22:06 I think I shall go to bed too, with visions of bundt cakes dancing in my head. See you all tomorrow. I wish you all new vid. by krig on 2006-12-11 20:22:26 And Joe....I hope you feel better soon!!!!!!!!!! and I'm with you on being all pissed at Daniel! I would have yelled at him too, but there's no way I can top what you said whatsoever! by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:23:24 So will the Colonel Anti-First's minions post: antiii1i11111iii-FIIIIII11111111111RST!!!! at the beginning of each new video? by physphile on 2006-12-11 20:24:02 Annizzle, I hear you about finals... one term paper, three assignments, about 500 pages of reading, and two finals... and by Saturday I too will be FREE! WOO HOO! by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:24:59 Night Krig (I know we've never talked or whatever, but ya know, being friendly, lol) by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:25:01 night Krig!!! by physphile on 2006-12-11 20:25:37 yes, freedom is nice! lol Where are you from Perky? by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:26:26 548 sonya_w well up here in northern canada, the trains arnt locked up and its very common for hopers to jump on them when empty carts are being pushed around... although it gets up to -50 c up here and there has been a few deaths on them... I know all this cause I work on one :) CONDUCTER FOR LIFE!! :) by Schreiber on 2006-12-11 20:27:04 Thanks Annizzle! Ok, now I'm really leaving. by krig on 2006-12-11 20:27:18 Speaking of finals- I think I will sign-off now, too. I'll work out a few more problems, then head off to bed. Here's hoping I rock my quantum final ('cause if I don't, I'm a fail that class.... :( ) by physphile on 2006-12-11 20:27:20 Pennsylvania (USA)... you? by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:28:23 Hey, ive been lurking for a long time, but now I want in. Listen to Marcus, Jonas is BAD NEWS!! Jonas, if you read this, you and me need to have a chat. Does anyone have software to look at the books on his shelf? I have seen no other clues as to his background, etc., other than that wet noodle of a sob story. Hey Jonas, Bruce Wayne called and he wants his childhood back. And Lex Luthor was on the line, thanking you for making him look not at all sinister. Im in it big time now, ladies and gents. Everyone, who has read Pattern REcognition by William Gibson? by redbear on 2006-12-11 20:29:37 Krig, no problem! Night! Physphile! night! Perky, I'm from Ontario Canada by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:30:06 Regarding the new Tachyon video - this is going to silly but did Gemma ever specify she lived in London ENGLAND there is a London ONTARIO afterall and our neighbourhoods probably look the same as yours. by gnome on 2006-12-11 20:30:48 Welcome redbear... grab some bundt cake, keep away from the orange slurpees, and confess loud and clear, "Hello, I am a LonelyCrackhead" :-) Please tell me about Pattern Recognition? by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:32:00 hey gnome...good point! Maybe she is in London Ontario! She may have just moved there??? by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:32:21 Now that you mention it gnome... there are a few Londons in the US. by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:34:08 Ok that's a stupid theory #580 its much easier to believe she's in the States and is a big fat liar. by gnome on 2006-12-11 20:35:02 Yes, welcome redbear, and listen to Perky, she knows what she's talking about!!! Wish I could have some bundt cake right here, right now! lol Perky, I'm off to bed, I have a final in 10 hours exactly, and I need my brain sleep! lol.......so good night all! If anything super exciting is discovered or whatever, just private note me! and tell Grace I said night! by Annizzle on 2006-12-11 20:35:50 Has anyone ever noticed that weir logo in the bottom right corner of this page...next to where it says "LG15*" ?? I noticed a couple months ago. by Raquel on 2006-12-11 20:36:40 Way to go Daniel! You make so much sense that it doesn't make sense. If that...makes sense. For the first time, he feels like a real person, not just a guy in a serielized vlog. by FireInside on 2006-12-11 20:36:51 *weird by Raquel on 2006-12-11 20:37:14 #586... Correct me if I'm wrong someone... but doesn't that say "Thelema"? by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:39:16 Feel better Joe! by AlliBean on 2006-12-11 20:40:23 Nevermind, that's not what it says by Perky on 2006-12-11 20:40:45 That's Thelema in Greek Letters Raquel - one of the clues to the Aleister Crowley/ Thelema connection. Speaking of symbols - Has anyone ever noticed one of the symbols in the top banner looks like the Target logo? Maybe this is a giant marketing ploy after all! by gnome on 2006-12-11 20:41:02 http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1309&sid=7642e59150561abe073bb9c245eb71a0 by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 20:41:56 Weird. Unless I missed it, no one has mentioned this... This looks to me like an obvious write-out. I think Daniel/Yousef is gone. As in... gone. :( Which is sad, cuz Bree/Jonas will never work the way Bree/Daniel did. Sadness abounding. by SoThenTheresThis on 2006-12-11 20:42:51 And more if you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema by WatchingOne on 2006-12-11 20:44:59 i gotta agree with physphile #175.. am an lg addict but would also love just *some* loose ends tied up! (we never found out what her parents said in the note either, for example) ..creators - you're doing an amazing job, but some answers would be appreciated! by apathy on 2006-12-11 20:59:25 DANIEL DANIEL DANIEL!! how could you just leave her like that and then leave her some stupid message like that? i'm sorry? yeah she's alone with the jonas guy that YOU DID NOT TRUST!!!! how nice are you.. i have no respect for you anymore by eastcoastwoman on 2006-12-11 21:15:08 As other people have mentioned the new Tachyon video seems to be indicating that Gemma is lying and is actually in the U.S., San Fransisco? I wonder why it isn't posted here yet, anyway if anyone wants to see it, http://youtube.com/watch?v=N2Z7LhsgBkY by robtomorrow on 2006-12-11 21:16:02 No doubt about it, the Order is the Order of Oriental Templars, or OTO. The Deacons are members of the Gnostic Catholic Church, or some such religious group affiliated with Thelema. Deacons are the assistants to the preists. Did anyone read about the need to KILL anyone who prevents a follower of Thelema from doing "what thou wilt"? THe problem now is figuring wether there has been a break between the Order and the Church, or if there are other factors forcing the watchers to follow Bree. The exercises, those would have been simple yoga, yes? The shots, that seemed very Crowleyan to me, and very sinister, and the ritual itself would have been for the Church, not specifically the Order... But surely they are working together still. Argh, Im having a lonelycrack OD on my first day as a non-lurker! by redbear on 2006-12-11 21:25:51 600!?!! by apathy on 2006-12-11 21:26:55 oh, and robtomorrow? it is posted on the right 'gemma part i' by apathy on 2006-12-11 21:28:32 Oh, and Pattern Recognition.. I recommend it for EVERYONE HERE. It is about followers of "The Footage", mysterious vid bits that show up on the internet, and a womans attempts to find the maker, a nearly religious experience for herself and her friends on the forum. It is amazing, one of those 500 pages in 2 days reads. William Gibson wrote it, the guy who wrote Neuromancer and Johnny Mnemonic. by redbear on 2006-12-11 21:29:18 aWW daNIEL looks so sad. But clean. hahaha i understand. But he should not have let her go off with that stranger. she is still a kid. I would have never let my friend go off with a stranger like that espesically a guy. she is completely vulnerable in his house he could rape her murderer. he could do anything. What was Daniel thinking. by Cherry on 2006-12-11 21:38:35 haha omg he looks so funny up close to the cam like that and iam so excited to find out what happens next..good job danile or should i say danielle for quitting like a girl and not holding out to protect bree as u promised her parents you would, man ur so not gonna be able to go over to her house if n when she returns home then you will be sorry by blondeambition on 2006-12-11 21:41:26 apathy, OK, sorry, I see it now. by robtomorrow on 2006-12-11 21:42:37 #199 Blujasmine sorry if someone has already explained this above (I haven't read the rest of the page yet), however just regarding the statement where you said: "This isn’t some mystic code coming at us from some higher source. It’s entertainment. Granted, there are some clues given that help foreshadow what’s to come, but I don’t really think this was made to have it torn to pieces for clues and inuendos, but merely for entertainment value." Well actually, just to let you know that yes, there is some mystic code coming at us from some higher source...It's called ARG. This is not only a vlog, it is also an Altered Reality Game that you can play for deeper understanding and enjoyment. If you would like more info on it, you can read more on it in the forums. It's actually very interesting. Additionally, because this is not only a vlog, but an ARG, it was meant to be torn to pieces and analyzed. Hope this makes more sense for you now by beachlovr9 on 2006-12-11 22:04:02 oh my god. he really did almost say bree i still love you but he caught himself!!!1 CUTE!!!! by afcavegirl2002 on 2006-12-11 22:08:55 OH MY GOSH! He was about to say "I love you!" But he stopped himself...aww. I knew that the character of Daniel loved Bree! I knew it!! YAY! by swimminchick104 on 2006-12-11 22:11:59 after all that and he gonna say he only "care" about her. im bout to bring my ghettos friends in here and let them tell him what's up!! lol but seriously we all heard what he wanted to say. he's just gonna move on with his life like nothing every happened, or that she was ever their, what an ass. if he's so worried about freedom then why don't he just jump trains for a living maybe you'll be happy then when "the love of ur life" is trying to bare with the minimum. god im so angry with him. i hope the watchers tackle him and take him down, for good.!! by adritha on 2006-12-11 22:12:09 #343 - Here's the translation to the anagram: Subject: ICE GROWS THINNER Note: DARKER THINGS WILL COME TO PASS I AM SO AFRAID. REVEAL THE PAST (t)HAT HAS CLOUDED MY VISION... HIGH SCHOOL GHOST: SOON TO BE UNCOVERED. by jerik on 2006-12-11 22:13:54 Wait! I've got it! It's worse than I thought. You gotta tell 'em! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 22:15:07 Sorry. I get weird when I run out of ways to analyze things. by Elphielives on 2006-12-11 22:15:51 FFIIIRIRRRSSSSTTTTTTT!!!?!!!!!!!11!!111111!1111!!!!! to post a comment without watching the video. Why is it that I always am like number 1 millionth and 99th? I sit on the computer most of my day at work. I have an easy job. Geeze you would think I could actually watch a video in time. by fantim on 2006-12-11 22:45:36 Saying "bree i still lo' - i still care about u" was totally the biggest thing i picked up out of that! cute ok and now it seems everyone is commenting on that too. sorry i'm being really constructive. i'm surprised though that being away from home ran him down so much, when his parents dont seem to do much looking after of him. i spose its always easier though when there's food in teh cupboard, and a bed and shower readily available. and he doesn't need to worry about money.... but you'd think he'd try to take bree home with him or something. have her live with him and his parents. by Lara on 2006-12-11 22:46:06 so i guess daniel is officailly outof the picture? did anyone else thinnk it was kinda cute when he was all like "bree i miss you"? that was cute. by here4laffs on 2006-12-11 22:59:24 This entire video must be some kind of code. Daniel relates a story about a guy he met on a train that rides the rails for two months out of every year, and works for a mortgage firm the rest of the time. I have difficulty believing that Daniel is so stupid as to take that seriously. by ApotheosisAZ on 2006-12-11 23:07:48 Where is this Cassie video??? Something better happen, I'm leaving town tomorrow and might not be able to watch vids for months *sob* by Pylopheit on 2006-12-11 23:08:56 #94--justagirl--I wish you weren't so brilliant and observant, because I wanted to "believe!!" as Fox Mulder would say.. #594-SoThenTheresThis--Yeah, and I'm still really sad about it. It's over. What a bummer. Nothing important happening 12-10-06 unless we hear about it later from the giggly teeny-boppers at the mansion in the middle of nowhere. I'm afraid he can't be evil if Daniel is being written out. Probably not. So, it's just boring. First, he said he'd trust the fans. Then, he said, "We shouldn't trust a popular vote!" Then, he leaves her with someone he DOESN'T trust, based on the last statement.. and then he says he seems to think she's in good hands.. Is this insane to anyone else? Insane? As in.. no plot continuity whatsoever? I really wanted to support this series and contribute to its ongoing development. I was excited about it. But what is left? What do we have here? Sad.. DO NOT BLAME YOUSEF. IT IS NOT HIS FAULT. Read his MySpace blogs. You will see a tremendously talented young man with heart, soul and integrity. No doubts in my mind about Yousef. He's the only one I trusted, until he was scripted to be so bizarre. :( by Marbella on 2006-12-11 23:17:22 #617, Cassie's vid is called "Nightmare" on the right-side bar. by Perky on 2006-12-11 23:25:17 This does not add up at all... Daniel sticking with Bree for at least a week after deciding her wanted to go home, only to leave her once Jonas comes, and then thanking him for taking care of the girl he lo...cares about? Oh and by the way, TWINKIES BURN ORANGE http://www.twinkiesproject.com/oxidation.html by Determination on 2006-12-11 23:28:12 I doubt if itscassie is canon, but she is the best cassie we have had yet, creepy, but it pretty good! by robtomorrow on 2006-12-11 23:28:14 dude if u Lo- care about her go get her make sure shes ok! by dancer_boi09 on 2006-12-11 23:28:39 #237 nicki, If you think about the way they made the video, they didn't need to shoot 2 separate ones. That video would have satisfied us telling daniel to go to Jonas's or to go home. by Determination on 2006-12-11 23:35:05 #552 Perky decoded Rebel's last message to read THEY SAID I’D LOOK PRETTY WITH A BULLET THROUGH MY CHEST. THEY MEAN TO DRAIN MY BLOOD… “FOR MY EVER PRESENT BLUSHIN DEATH WOULD JUST LOOK SO OUT OF PLACE†When I googled "blushing death," a COMIC (Daniel's comic reference?) came up about a "loner girl" who talks to what looks like Death who then kills her. It's creepy. http://neesan.smackjeeves.com/comics/22007/?PHPSESSID=2dffc7f426aa3b683fd31ba0b0f07c4d The "drain my blood" thing...Didn't one of the characters used to say something like "not all vampires drink blood" or something? Anyone remember which one? Maybe that's a reference to that/a clue to whether Refuse is fanfic vs. canon. I'm pretty sure it's fanfic, but hey. Haha, I took a nap, woke up, and went right back onto the lonelygirl site. by Kimmy on 2006-12-12 00:01:27 #618 - Have faith, Marbella ;) by jerik on 2006-12-12 00:09:15 We need a Bree vid now, we need to know if she is safe!!! by khjq on 2006-12-12 00:12:01 Subject: ICE GROWS THINNER Note: DARKER THINGS WILL COME TO PASS I AM SO AFRAID. REVEAL THE PAST (t)HAT HAS CLOUDED MY VISION… HIGH SCHOOL GHOST: SOON TO BE UNCOVERED. Anyone think this could mean Cassie? by jerik on 2006-12-12 00:13:22 colonel Anti-First--Thanks for finding a fun, light-hearted way to voice your opinion instead of just insulting people. Of course, my heart is with General Firstsayer. Marbella/SoThenTheresThis--I don't think Yousef is being written off the show forever. I think he's going out-of-country for a bit, so this may be how certain characters just don't show up in soap operas for a few weeks while the actors who play them go on vacation. OR it could just be part of the plot and the creators will shoot videos in advance to cover the time he's away (or even have him make videos while he's gone...this medium lets you upload videos pretty much anywhere, which is cool). by Kimmy on 2006-12-12 00:18:10 #627 We thought so at first, but when asked she replied that she is not Cassie. by Perky on 2006-12-12 00:23:57 If he's talking about getting his job back, then that means he doesn't care that much about Bree... Unless he's pretending to fool the watchers (which I doubt). I would never leave my girl so I could go home to mommy and daddy and suck my thumb, that's for sure. She's staying alone with Jonas, in a big house, just the two of them. Hmmm.. It almost seems like he doesn't care which is odd. I suppose the creators have some reason to do this, but I always thought Daniel was all about being a bit dangerous while sneaking around. For example breaking into Lucy's apartment. I can only wonder why it's gone in this direction. by Jim on 2006-12-12 00:24:58 Physphile, Thanks for the encouragement! Good luck to you, too! I had a nice night off, but then it’s back into the fray. Elliemae, thanks! Good luck to you, too. This exam stuff… I keep thinking there must be a better way to measure what I’ve learned, because sometimes I don’t think that’s what it actually does, but I guess short of them peeking into my brain to see what’s in there, there is no better way than torturing a group of students with a one time stack o’ papers and a time limit just to make it fun! :P NAXAN, thanks for the quarter! *does a trick in gratitude* Joe, thanks! I was pretty excited to know what the heck I was talking about. I was thinking about running off to become a hobo and ride the rails myself while I was studying last night. It seemed like the only option. As to Daniel…I got a little angry when I saw the vid, too, I just didn’t have the strength to even speak of it due to the sucking of my will to live that is law school. And Marbella’s right, too, about the insanity of it all. HE asked for the vote (maybe assuming we’d all back him up?) and then got ticked off at the results and just bailed. And while he’s back home griping about his parents and getting his haircut, God (and the Order?) only knows what’s happening to Bree. So the moral of the story is, the only person a vulnerable lonely girl can trust is her P-monkey. *sigh* As to the purple thing, it was a color wheel-related issue... and a mistake. Apparently, BLUE is opposite orange on the color wheel. I like purple better as the anti-orange, though, because I think it takes one secondary color to battle another. Plus, I think with orange v. purple/blue, the important thing is to battle the warm color with a cool color. Wow… I’m thinking about this too hard… :P krig, thanks for the congrats! I did enjoy my night off… Maybe too much. One little glass of wine turned into five… I walked back home giggling all the way… :P My friend and I decided we weren’t drunk, we were just medicated for our pain. Marcus, I don’t react to the Deacons a) because I’m studying for finals and whatnot and b) I told you this before, but I’d be disappointed if they were authentic. Super secret orders posting to the internet seemed to be confused about what “secret†means. And if they’re posting here, they are watching the site and us, and that destroys any hope of confidentiality of what B & D tell us and thus they can no longer trust us enough to tell us anything about their locations or what they’re planning to do. For purposes of being able to give them advice and them being able to tell us things, it can’t be too obvious, just to me anyhow, that the Order is watching this site. I’m glad you enjoy reading about it and following it. It’s just that for my part, I need some confirmation of authenticity before looking into it too much. by Lizard on 2006-12-12 00:30:32 #634 kimmy, nice catch with the comic! Can't look deeper into it now (got to go to work), but will do it later! Seems like just my sense of humour! The "blood draining" reference is from OpAphid: "A psychic vampire feeds of energy and attention". #627 jerik, she basically told us that she is not Cassie. Any idea who else she could be? by Dream on 2006-12-12 00:38:03 G'morning Dream, I was just about to head off to sleep... had a thought about Rebel, check out #555. Talk to you in a few hours. by Perky on 2006-12-12 00:42:08 Sorry, I have a habit of not being clear sometimes. I just assume everyone knows what I'm thinking. ;) I was meaning the part about the high school ghost being Cassie. Maybe REBEL is referring to Cassie. It would kinda make sense. 1. The water references. When we first hear of Cassie, it's when Bree is swimming. 2. High school. We know that Bree and Daniel went to school at one point with Cassie. Who knows? by jerik on 2006-12-12 00:48:03 #631 - Lizard, you must be pretty darn broke to be turning tricks for a quarter! ;) lol by jerik on 2006-12-12 00:51:23 Morning Perky! And good night! ;) by Dream on 2006-12-12 01:15:49 Daniel's such a wuss. "I got really burned out." But Jonas is more of a dork. "I made her my famous sunday with shaved almonds" Come one seriously, who takes the time to shave almonds!? I hope Jonas' character gets killed off quickly. Daniel suck it up and go save her. PS all the stuff they said about train hopping is true. Trust me. But don't try it. It's very dangerous. Friend of mine didn't make it.. that sucks. Hm.. my story sounds as fake as Jonas' dead parents story. by fantim on 2006-12-12 01:17:57 #634 jerik, and REBEL told us in her first message on her user profile that she "knows Bree's and Cassie's secret". So it would make sense for her to reference Cassie and you're right, water and high-school points in that direction. What confuses me though is the reference to Canada. "My ghost wasnders its high school in Canadas capital." Any links between Cassie and Ottawa? Ok, off to work now! Until later! by Dream on 2006-12-12 01:20:29 114 and 117 RebelGoddess and Chii-chan: You're right right's not a pretty site. Daniel better get off his butt and save her before someone catches it on webcam. by fantim on 2006-12-12 01:20:49 Well, poo. I forgot about the "knowing the secret" thing. Surely REBEL is talking about someone we know about! It's probably something very obvious. Or it's an elaborate hoax. :) by jerik on 2006-12-12 01:51:02 I'm sure things will be alright. Give Bree some time, i'm sure she'll start talking to you again. We can tell you really miss her and that you're sorry for leaving but once she sees this, she'll forgive you. by fadetoblack on 2006-12-12 05:23:49 #638 I can't think of any obvious links myself, and I live in Ottawa (Canada's capital). With respect to high schools? I thought in the story Cassie was supposed to have attended high school with Bree and Daniel in California. Anyways, I'll provide a list of all the known high schools in Ottawa and the surrounding area, both the English and Public and Catholic boards. I don't imagine Cassie would have attended a French high school so I'll omit those for now. by Amanda88 on 2006-12-12 05:44:48 if ur sorry u left her then GO BACK AND GET HER!!! by x--enna--x on 2006-12-12 05:47:31 so... Daniel went home... obviously not concerned with the order finding him anymore. now why didn't he go get his car before returning home? He parked it on a city street. It hasn't been long enough for anyone to think it was abandoned. I doubt it was towed away yet. by wastinghope on 2006-12-12 05:47:33 i'm not convinced he's at home. wheres the bike? bookcase? blue shirt? by wastinghope on 2006-12-12 05:48:27 Here's the list for those wanting to further decipher whatever REBEL says about a link between Cassie and Ottawa: (English only; for those who don't know, the two official Canadian languages are English and French, and since Ottawa is right on the Quebec border both are very prominent in this city) English Public Schools: A.Y. Jackson Secondary School St. Nicholas Adult High School Bell High School Brookfield High School Cairine Wilson Secondary School Canterbury High School Colonel By Secondary School Earl of March Secondary School Glebe Collegiate Institute Gloucester High School Hillcrest High School John McCrae Secondary School Lisgar Collegiate Institute Merivale High School Nepean High School Osgoode Township High School Ottawa Technical Learning Centre Rideau High School Ridgemont High School Sir Guy Carleton Secondary School Sir Robert Borden High School Sir Wilfrid Laurier Secondary School South Carleton High School West Carleton Secondary School Woodroffe High School PHEW! Ok and now the English Catholic high schools: St. Nicholas Adult High M. F. McHugh All Saints High Holy Trinity High Immaculata High Lester B. Pearson Catholic High Mother Teresa High Notre Dame High Sacred Heart High St. Joseph High St. Mark High St. Matthew High St. Patrick's High St. Paul High St. Peter High St. Pius X High Here are the websites for the main English school boards in Ottawa. Each school has its' own website for those who REALLY want to dig a little deeper: http://www.ocdsb.edu.on.ca/schools.htm http://www2.occdsb.on.ca/content.php?doc=98 FYI: Upon doing this, I realized I omitted all the private schools. The only private school I know off the top of my head is Ashbury College. I'll have to leave those for you all to do the digging yourselves. by Amanda88 on 2006-12-12 05:56:40 Hmmm, my post of Ottawa high schools didn't post. Rather than go through all that work again, I'll just give the websites: English Catholic schools in Ottawa: http://www2.occdsb.on.ca/content.php?doc=98 English Public (non-Catholic) schools in Ottawa: http://www.ocdsb.edu.on.ca/schools.htm I'll leave it to all of you keeners to look individually for private schools in Ottawa. The only one I can think of is Ashbury College. by Amanda88 on 2006-12-12 06:07:31 has anyone else thought about the title of this page? a tribute to lonelygirl15????????? so does that mean she's going to die???????? by pmonckey on 2006-12-12 06:48:36 If Jonas and Bree aren't making videos for us...what are they doing? I'm kind of scared... by Elphielives on 2006-12-12 07:58:23 New Tachyon vid! by Elphielives on 2006-12-12 08:09:19 RE: Daniel's hair. There are many magical ways to create illusions with hair -- maybe they used a wig to hide the awards show haircut in the homeless vids. I really don't think they film ahead of time, but in this particular case, there is the possibility that they filmed alternate versions for location reasons. I still think a wig or some other hollywood hair magic is the real answer. by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-12 08:09:56 A word on Candlemass/Hollywood. Super Bowl Sunday, February 1st, was also the traditional Pagan/Satanic holiday of Candlemass or Imboloc. The rites traditionally called for young women to parade around town naked invoking the spirit of Pagan saint Brighid or Brigit (pronounced BREE) in an effort to bring on lactation in farm animals. Brigit was also revered as the goddess of spring and represented by the sun. A close examination of the footage shows a bare breasted Janet Jackson with a strange sun ornament piercing her nipple, both clear references to this Satanic Occult ceremony. The public outcry seems to have largely missed the point. This act was not just about SEX, it was about SATANISM. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-12 08:16:45 See Tachyon video on Youtube. Lucy and Gemma together! by Rosie_b on 2006-12-12 08:23:00 #650 - Now THATS a party! WAHOO.. by Stink on 2006-12-12 08:23:22 first, i should say that daniel looks lame with his hair cut short. anyway... #209, ure totally right. this series is getting a bit too over-dramatic... and plot-lacking. by gepetto on 2006-12-12 08:26:14 Dissecting religion and cults: (See Deacons post#300 for "liturgy of Amon-Ra") The actual word Amon means ‘hidden’. The name can be spelt Amon. Amen and Amun, hence the many spellings of the boy king, Tutankhamon's name. It is also interesting to note the word used after all modern prayers... Our Lord, Amen. by WatchingOne on 2006-12-12 08:27:44 Gemma sure doesn't seem as if she strolls around with Lucy against her will. Oh Gemma, what are you doing? *shakes her head* by Dream on 2006-12-12 08:40:12 #651 Saw it. Gemma is totally in the order by Shadow on 2006-12-12 08:43:55 where was gemma with lucy? and how do you know there are cameras in daniel's room? by cray0723 on 2006-12-12 08:54:06 New code on Tachyon site: NGQgNjEgNzQgNjMgNjggMjAgNzQgNj ggNjUgMjAgNzEgNzUgNmYgNzQgNjUg MmYgNzMgNjMgNjUgNmUgNjUgMmYgNz MgNjUgNzEgNzUgNjUgNmUgNjMgNjUg MjAgMjggNjkgNmUgMjAgNmMgNmYgNz cgNjUgNzIgNjMgNjEgNzMgNjUgMjkg MjAgNzQgNmYgMjAgNzQgNjggNjUgMj AgNmQgNmYgNzYgNjkgNjUgMjAgMjgg NjkgNmUgMjAgNTUgNTAgNTAgNDUgNT IgNDMgNDEgNTMgNDUgMjkgMmUgMjAg NTcgNjEgNzQgNjMgNjggMjAgNjEgNm UgNjQgMjAgNjMgNmYgNmQgNzAgNjEg NzIgNjUgMjAgNzQgNjggNjUgMjAgNm MgNmYgNzcgNjUgNzIgNjMgNjEgNzMg NjUgMjAgNzMgNjMgNjUgNmUgNjUgMj AgNjkgNmUgMjAgNjUgNjEgNjMgNjgg MjAgNTUgNTAgNTAgNDUgNTIgNDMgND EgNTMgNDUgMjAgNmQgNmYgNzYgNjkg NjUgMjAgNzQgNmYgMjAgNjYgNjkgNm UgNjQgMjAgNjEgMjAgNzAgNjEgNzQg NzQgNjUgNzIgNmUgMjAgNzQgNjggNj EgNzQgMjAgNzcgNjkgNmMgNmMgMjAg NjQgNjUgNzQgNjUgNzIgNmQgNjkgNm UgNjUgMjAgNjggNmYgNzcgMjAgNzkg NmYgNzUgMjAgNjggNjEgNmUgNjQgNm MgNjUgMjAgNzQgNjggNjUgMjAgNTUg NTAgNTAgNDUgNTIgNDMgNDEgNTMgND UgMjAgNmMgNjUgNzQgNzQgNjUgNzIg NzMgMmYgNmUgNzUgNmQgNjIgNjUgNz IgNzMgMmU= by Shadow on 2006-12-12 08:58:48 #657, there are videos on the right side of the screen as well, some of them are apparently a part of the series. The two you are referring to are "Gemma [Part II]" by Tachyon (also watch Gemma? [Part I]") and "Home Alone" by OpAphid (They have others, too, one of which is "Adventures in Babysitting". by SaraMel15 on 2006-12-12 09:03:09 ok, I saw the tachyon videos, which are creepy, but can someone explain why people think it's Jonas's feet under the door in the itscassie video? by ssskinner on 2006-12-12 09:12:59 So looks like Gemma is part of the Order...since she's on this website, that means she knows all the inside stuff. Wonder why she didn't want Bree to go to Jonas'? Because the Order doesn't know where his house is? Or is Jonas part of the Order too? And means harm to Bree. Meanwhile, Gemma is really on Bree's side, but is making the Order think she's with them because they'll do something bad to her if she tries to get away. by justagirl on 2006-12-12 09:14:17 i want to hear itcassie's thoughts on this tachyon video of gemma... also, if it's jonas' feet under cassie's door, why did cassie tell bree that jonas' was the safest place to go at this point and that she was glad she's there? because it seems that cassie is trying to help bree out, so why lead her to jonas' if that's where she is or if she knows jonas is part of the order? by justagirl on 2006-12-12 09:16:56 doesnt anyone think its wierd that his parents dont ask him any questions... i think the order went to his house and they know but there to scared to say anything to Daniel by analin on 2006-12-12 09:19:41 i dont think itscassie is part of the series by analin on 2006-12-12 09:20:25 woooo so it wasn't a mistake by the creators that we saw Gemma in the last Tachyon vid in America! The ending to Gemma [Part II] suggests theres a part 3! It better be uploaded soon lol. I was in 2 minds whether the creators had made a mistake with the Gemma [Part I] vid or the fact that she was in America for the story! I'm totally convinced now that this is the way they are introducing Gemma as being in America, but why is she here? and why is she with Lucy? I need more time to think about this lol by nobby1985 on 2006-12-12 09:20:38 Ohhh man GEMMA is confirmed EVIL!!!! Everyone needs to watch this video. Let me know what you think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIbqBmra6YM by TherealLilly on 2006-12-12 09:29:14 Bree: "mom and dad, what's wrong?" parents: "we can' tell you, but it's not safe. we're really worried something might happen to you." Bree: "oh no! what should we do?" parents: "well, um...just leave the house and go stay with Daniel, okay? we won't be contacting you at all to see if you're okay, so if something happens to you, i guess we'll find out someday." Bree: "but mom! dad! am i in danger?" parents: "oh, don't worry, just go out in public, keep posting videos to the Internet, don't tell us where you are, don't contact the police no matter what; you're 16, after all." Bree: "i'm freaking out!" parents: "go on, pack a bag and leave. we'll see you around someday, hopefully. we can't tell you what's happening or when." nice one. by Danie1beast on 2006-12-12 09:30:26 Daniel: "hey everybody on the Internet, i'm home. don't tell the 'Order'--oops, it's on the Internet. they don't have Internet, thank god." parents: "hi Daniel, it's been a few weeks. welcome home. here's a sandwich." Daniel: "yeah, hi, thanks. i'll be in my room hanging out, see ya." by Danie1beast on 2006-12-12 09:31:55 New video from Jonas coming by Rosie_b on 2006-12-12 09:36:42 has anyone thought that tachyon isn't part of the series? Maybe he just knows where they are filming and the actresses that play Lucy and Gemma were hanging out? by cray0723 on 2006-12-12 09:36:48 Is Jonas Tachyon sister?? From her profile on you tube: To my "Brother" : I know there's a lot going on right now, important work towards a greater reward. If you can ask a friend or two to help, it makes sense to multitask at this point. I know you're overwhelmed, but I have faith in you. So even though you're not finished with the step you've been working on, perhaps you'll be much closer to having it completed by the time your friend(s) return from running an errand for you. Aren't you glad that you taught me the value of teamwork? by Shadow on 2006-12-12 09:37:25 Tough Cookie by Rosie_b on 2006-12-12 09:38:51 I've been following this since the first vid, but this is my first post. Just a couple of observations: 1. Why on earth do people still try to do the "first" thing? Have they not figured out that chances are very slim that their post will actually be first, and they'll just end up looking like an immature ass? 2. The storyline certainly has some holes in it. It requires more suspension of disbelief than most video fiction does. But if it wasn't entertaining, people wouldn't be posting here. When you're treated to free entertainment, opinions and suggestions are fine (and in this case, solicited)--but jeez, lay off of the brutal criticism and bitter complaining. If you feel that urge coming on, just think: It's freeeeeeeeeee. F-R-E-E. 3. For myself, I don't know what the creators have planned, but I am starting to wish that some of the suspense would be resolved. So far, it's about a SENSE of danger, but the only real suggestion of it was (in my mind) the evidence that Daniel was being surveilled. by BeornBear on 2006-12-12 09:42:13 #658 shadow, didn't anyone of the ARG people already solve it? Haven't had the time to look it up but I was kind of counting on it... by Dream on 2006-12-12 09:45:41 #673 This link is all the information you need about why people shout first! http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:General_Firstsayer Thanks for reminding me FFFFFFIIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSSTTTTTT!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!1 *salutes* by nobby1985 on 2006-12-12 09:45:42 Not sure Dream. Will look and see. I though it might have changed. by Shadow on 2006-12-12 09:50:06 #675 Ummmm, that makes no sense whatsoever to me, but thanks for trying, I guess. by BeornBear on 2006-12-12 09:51:34 New video. It's official! Gemma is part of the order. Stupid backstabbing looser. I hope Jonas finds her and beats the crap out of her! by froppo on 2006-12-12 09:51:39 hmm. I don't know if this matters...but I friended Jonas a.k.a Jackson on myspace....and we've had a nice little correspondence going on. Apparently, he's originally from the east coast?? by rhapsodyofwords on 2006-12-12 11:14:42 Mortgage hobo +Ex-advertising baker _____________________ No one is who they seem by Schweet3 on 2006-12-12 12:24:39 "Bree I still LOVE you"!!!! by katesquared on 2006-12-12 14:53:44 His parents should be more "hands on"...if they were he would be saffer from getting in serious trouble.... by A Girl on 2006-12-12 22:06:59 LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Slainte on 2006-12-17 09:58:33 AWWWWWWWWWWWW! Bree I still l....care about you.... *cries* He loves her! by IntricatelySimple on 2007-04-05 23:03:37 Bree I still l--care about you. AWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!! i played that part like 5 times!!!! love love love love LOVE is in the air by MarysCool on 2007-08-02 11:12:50 I don't understand Daniel sometimes... I thought he was like in love with her but if he was... he wouldn't have gone home just like that. by lol2ph on 2007-08-15 08:03:43 Bree, stop posting vblogs! They can track you via these! It's stupid. The Watchers are clearly finding them via these vblogs. Im sry I keep repeating myself, but you should stop posting for a while. by superdude on 2007-08-16 14:06:32 673.. "Brother" is 10033 He's with Tachyon :) So it's not Daniel by Lala Courtney on 2007-09-03 19:25:31 he lurrrrrrrrrrrves her hahaha by honeycomb31 on 2008-01-01 21:56:35 lol wow he hopped a train? uhhuh.. and DAN GO BACK TO BREE! by rissa406 on 2008-01-27 03:04:27 Aww, Daniel is so sweet! by jinxxeh on 2008-02-15 16:36:08 Awesome! Daniel can hop a train and still care for Bree...Good man! by mister_b1ll on 2008-02-16 22:45:21 i think daniel and bree should've done their own research about all this Order stuff, since Gemma is *cough, cough* EVIL! I mean....they can't just run away all their life---they should do something! by polarbear101 on 2008-04-03 09:19:42 pathetic. TRAIN HOPPING? Well I guess I'd do anything to get to safety.AND WHAT IF THE ORDER KIDNAPS HIM AND ASKS ABOUT BREE!!?!?? BREE AND DAN SHOULD KEEP TOUCH, just in case................... by polarbear101 on 2008-04-03 09:24:45 no one wants to pick him up bc hes ugly... by cleversmynamee on 2008-05-24 19:10:20 |