<center><iframe width='560' height='315' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/1z7XHHvWE8w' title='YouTube video player' frameborder='0' allow='accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share' allowfullscreen></iframe><br ><font size=4>Title: <b>The Test</b> posted by danielbeast on 2006-12-08 02:12:35</font><br /></center><hr width='70%' /><center><table width=70%><tr><td>fiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssssstttttttttttt~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by sydney on 2006-12-07 18:08:32</i><br /><hr />finally!!<br /><i>by Nat on 2006-12-07 18:08:36</i><br /><hr />new video!<br /><i>by itselisabeth on 2006-12-07 18:08:40</i><br /><hr />ooooooooooooooo<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:08:46</i><br /><hr />first<br /><i>by skookumchuks on 2006-12-07 18:09:02</i><br /><hr />Daniel VIDEO!!! Great vid!<br /><i>by Ennovi on 2006-12-07 18:09:08</i><br /><hr />wooohooooooo!<br /><i>by Liz on 2006-12-07 18:09:07</i><br /><hr />Finally!<br /><i>by Jackie on 2006-12-07 18:09:13</i><br /><hr />FIRST<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 18:09:14</i><br /><hr />Don't trust Jonas!!!<br /><i>by JayHank on 2006-12-07 18:09:15</i><br /><hr />did anyone get the message decoded from the last video!!

JONAS A CHANCE WHAT!!!!!<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:09:29</i><br /><hr />Gosh, stop refreshing for 20 minutes and I almost miss being one of the first. Yike.<br /><i>by Jackie on 2006-12-07 18:09:47</i><br /><hr />15th<br /><i>by becky on 2006-12-07 18:10:09</i><br /><hr />**looks around suspiciously**

Do you think if I play this right now in the office on my work computer, all my co-workers will think I'm crazy?

(wish I brought my headphones...)<br /><i>by papertiger05 on 2006-12-07 18:10:25</i><br /><hr />lol i am shocked
yeay new vid...kay gonna watch<br /><i>by becky on 2006-12-07 18:10:32</i><br /><hr />that was for yo general

*salutes*<br /><i>by sydney on 2006-12-07 18:11:18</i><br /><hr />talk about character interaction... woot woot!!! :)<br /><i>by Ennovi on 2006-12-07 18:11:33</i><br /><hr />i don't know what that means<br /><i>by skookumchuks on 2006-12-07 18:11:53</i><br /><hr />wooooo!
*salutes*
FFFFIIIIRRRRSSSSTTTTT!!!1!1!!!!!!1!!!<br /><i>by midge on 2006-12-07 18:12:04</i><br /><hr />top 20! woo hoo!<br /><i>by emma on 2006-12-07 18:12:05</i><br /><hr />Hmm interesting. If this were real I'd say don't trust Jonas but for the sake of plot development I say go to Jonas'! It's obvious they will anyway.<br /><i>by DellaUK on 2006-12-07 18:12:36</i><br /><hr />not first. so it goes.<br /><i>by Sleepii on 2006-12-07 18:13:01</i><br /><hr />who is the person???<br /><i>by Ennovi on 2006-12-07 18:13:16</i><br /><hr />WOW, referance to us, WE get to choose. they must realise alot of us dont like jonas..<br /><i>by abbington12 on 2006-12-07 18:13:06</i><br /><hr />ps. Daniel has copied Jonas' trait of pausing and scratching his face<br /><i>by DellaUK on 2006-12-07 18:13:28</i><br /><hr />who is it?<br /><i>by becky on 2006-12-07 18:13:39</i><br /><hr />top 25!<br /><i>by Determination on 2006-12-07 18:13:49</i><br /><hr />FFFFFFIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSTTTTTTT!!!!!!1111!11!!<br /><i>by General Firstsayer on 2006-12-07 18:13:54</i><br /><hr />Where do we go in the forum to see who you picked, Daniel?<br /><i>by Jackie on 2006-12-07 18:14:14</i><br /><hr />Wow, that was fast, there was no replies at first when i seen the vid, and then when i logged in BAM 22 posts phew.. being first is hard to do..lol  This video is .. kinda.. I odn't know it has me worried<br /><i>by StandingInLine on 2006-12-07 18:14:16</i><br /><hr />Well, this is as high as I'm gonna get, so I'll take it.... LAAAAAAAAAAST!... HEHEHE... J/K<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2006-12-07 18:14:17</i><br /><hr />Awesome!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by Annizzle on 2006-12-07 18:14:27</i><br /><hr />oh yes....in the top 50...just thought I'd let everyone share in my joy!<br /><i>by Annizzle on 2006-12-07 18:15:14</i><br /><hr />THAT WAS SUCH A FREAKIN LONG WAIT<br /><i>by subucni_incubus on 2006-12-07 18:15:16</i><br /><hr />oh, and, that itch.. it's driving me insane!  It's so .. obvious that it has to mean something i mean.. he itched for a long time haha<br /><i>by StandingInLine on 2006-12-07 18:15:51</i><br /><hr />Was that sound in the background a chainsaw.  Did Bree and Daniel turn into cannibals and start eating the homless.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 18:16:10</i><br /><hr />so who's the lucky(?) user who's going to decide? dun dun dun DUNNNNN!<br /><i>by Nat on 2006-12-07 18:16:10</i><br /><hr />omg... the writers really are stuck aren't they?<br /><i>by Determination on 2006-12-07 18:16:32</i><br /><hr />that's a test? you should make him wrestle a troll or something.<br /><i>by drbrenda on 2006-12-07 18:17:10</i><br /><hr />FFFFIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSTTTTTT111111!!!!!!!

*salutes*

pleasure to serve Genneral !<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-07 18:17:33</i><br /><hr />FFFFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTT!!!!!!
*salutes*

#603 of the last Gemma comments reads:

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME

WHEN I SEE YOU CHILLS RUN DOWN MY SPINE
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT AWAITS YOU
TOP TEN
LOOK TO THE NECK OF YOUR PREDATOR
NEVER TURN YOUR BACK
DO NOT BITE FIRST<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-07 18:18:14</i><br /><hr />Oooh, so let me get this straight.. Daniel is going to pick a member to represent the rest of us, but we'll get to throw our ideas on what Jonas' test should be?

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. =]<br /><i>by OhSnap on 2006-12-07 18:18:39</i><br /><hr />BWAHAHAHA!! #39, for some reason that made me litteraly crack up laughing out loud haha<br /><i>by StandingInLine on 2006-12-07 18:19:29</i><br /><hr />We love you too Daniel!! I say...Meet Jonas somewhere other than his house first! Then MAAYBE go back to stay at his house.  He hasn't really given us a total reason to trust him. Go with your gut feeling after you meet him!  He needs to earn a relationship not "pay" for it by givin his house and money ect... GOOD LUCK!!<br /><i>by Katelyn on 2006-12-07 18:19:44</i><br /><hr />FFFFFFFIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111!!!!!111!!!11!<br /><i>by elliemae on 2006-12-07 18:20:43</i><br /><hr />FIIIIIIIIRSSST! Great to see him actually acknowledge the audience. But I don't really understand the test. Who gets to decide? And if this was real, I would obviously say they shouldn't trust him, but since it isn't, maybe they should stay with Jonas just for the plot.<br /><i>by Ferra on 2006-12-07 18:20:56</i><br /><hr />haha joe

does this mean the orange slurpees prompt cannibalism??? or ar ethere homeless ppl IN the orange slurpees??? ooo the possibilities


and u shoudl be proud
our orange slurpee joke made it big :-P<br /><i>by sydney on 2006-12-07 18:21:11</i><br /><hr />WIYHSDMI HSOIROYN EEULUWSE. NECLNNP
YNWAS OTWWY UKHAO DNAIU. OOTT
TPE OTN
LTEKORT OONOUEO OTEFRDR. KHCYPA
NEUYRC ERROBK. VTNUA
DTES OBFT. NII OTR

when I see you chills run down my spine
you don't know what awaits you
top ten
look to the neck of your predator
never turn your back
don't bite first<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:21:18</i><br /><hr />Wow what a weird vlog. Hmmmm looks like the creators dont know what to do next *rolls eyes* are we ever going to find oout answers to previous questions?!?!

Anyway im knackered, go to jonas's...lets see some action!<br /><i>by sarahboo on 2006-12-07 18:22:05</i><br /><hr />what is up with the face scratching? seriously, guys. this has to be some kind of code!<br /><i>by ssskinner on 2006-12-07 18:22:11</i><br /><hr />dang an hour old and only 50 posts, you guys are slackin.<br /><i>by Armus on 2006-12-07 18:22:39</i><br /><hr />That is so damn cool! I love it how this is getting so interactive!!<br /><i>by hunnah on 2006-12-07 18:24:05</i><br /><hr />I wonder if they're building a shack or something haha, there's a lot of noise in the background, at first i thought i heard a lawnmower, then a chainsaw, then like lumber or something.. i dont' know haha, there's a few cars pulling into that "alley" and then they're gone.. could it be something or not?--just pointing it out<br /><i>by StandingInLine on 2006-12-07 18:25:29</i><br /><hr />I just realized that #21 DellaUK  said the exact same thing as I did. I don't read carefully enough haha. Anyway I don't think this will work, most of us don't trust Jonas, or Gemma...that's the best part of the series. You don't know if you can trust even the main characters! It would make more sense if they had to resort to staying with Jonas because it was a life or death situation.<br /><i>by Ferra on 2006-12-07 18:25:34</i><br /><hr />#43 -- LOL it's nice to see someone who laughed at my comment. i'm sure someone will say something later about how immature i am.<br /><i>by drbrenda on 2006-12-07 18:25:36</i><br /><hr />If it will help move this god damned story along then GO TO JOAN-ass's house...<br /><i>by Slainte on 2006-12-07 18:25:43</i><br /><hr />huh, so who's the mystery person?<br /><i>by elliemae on 2006-12-07 18:25:47</i><br /><hr />so when do we find out who he picked? and do you have to be a forum member??? i checked out the beast chat but found nothing<br /><i>by sydney on 2006-12-07 18:26:15</i><br /><hr />DANIEL! Please pick me! I don't understand the test but I know I want to be the fan!<br /><i>by HyeMew on 2006-12-07 18:26:21</i><br /><hr />i got a message in my box!!!
from guest!<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:26:47</i><br /><hr />when is ee you chills run down my spine.
you do nt know what awaits you.		
top ten					
look to the neck of your predator.	
never turn your back.			
do not bite first.

Transcribe from the last message from ?<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-07 18:27:08</i><br /><hr />Hey everyone, it's Daniel.  I decided to give the meeting information to:

GoodGollyItsHolly
Main Page User Profile:
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?page_id=113&amp;member=364
Forum User Profile:
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2062

Message her with your thoughts about Jonas.  If she decides that we should trust Jonas... then we will.  Thanks everyone!

Daniel<br /><i>by danielbeast on 2006-12-07 18:28:02</i><br /><hr />ZOMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG<br /><i>by HoorayForMakingOut on 2006-12-07 18:28:53</i><br /><hr />Um... Why can't Daniel get money from his parents?<br /><i>by XxPrissy_GirlxX on 2006-12-07 18:28:53</i><br /><hr />What's he gunna do? I'm confused! Yay new vid though!!<br /><i>by Georgia on 2006-12-07 18:29:58</i><br /><hr />Oooh, a test?  Trusting the fans?  This is weird.  I guess they really do want to involve the a lot fans more.<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-07 18:30:26</i><br /><hr />Wow, I'm surprised someone actually reads what i put.. thank you drbrenda haha i appreciate it:) you made me smile AND laugh haha --i'm off to bed, happy viewing over and over again! hehhe<br /><i>by StandingInLine on 2006-12-07 18:30:46</i><br /><hr />This was post #603 on the previous video...

SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL (send note) Says: 
December 7th, 2006 at 6:02 pm 
WIYHSDMI HSOIROYN EEULUWSE. NECLNNP
YNWAS OTWWY UKHAO DNAIU. OOTT
TPE OTN
LTEKORT OONOUEO OTEFRDR. KHCYPA
NEUYRC ERROBK. VTNUA
DTES OBFT. NII OTR<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-07 18:31:39</i><br /><hr />This page is about to self-destruct as usual. I feel another dissapointment coming. I hope this plan works better then the chat did. Personally I just wish the creators would take the story forward....though I have doubts they will actually choose a real person from the forum. :(<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2006-12-07 18:32:00</i><br /><hr />NAXAN -- #603 from the last video<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-07 18:32:39</i><br /><hr />DRBRENDA, you're so immature... 

Your welcome.<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2006-12-07 18:34:25</i><br /><hr />Oranges all around!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-07 18:34:46</i><br /><hr />any guesses for who it's gonna be?<br /><i>by Determination on 2006-12-07 18:35:06</i><br /><hr />i got this message?? i can decode it if someone tells me how


 
From: 	guest
To: 	adritha
Subject: 	FWD: Daniel
Date sent: 	2006-12-07 18:13:46
Date read: 	2006-12-07 18:25:39
 		 
Note: 	hSogeafaeTmsc iuodmrsWunTi
adiadaamdihkllistweRswnHhn
hsaeateOlobatYuefdUmhswCfi
AdiadaamdihkllifeohetreshN

U3 L1 F3 A2 J4 Q1 M1 H1 Z4 R4 D3 L4 A3 T1 W1 T4
W4 G4 S3 K3 N2 Z3 S1 E1 F1 O3 N2 F3 G3 K3 P4 B3
I1 N1 W4 B1 Z2 Y2 P3 P R4 H2 Z3 E1 P3 Z3 R4 H1
Q4 P O3 W1 B1 K3 B3 E1 H2 E2 F4 W2 S4 T2 W4 Z3
R4 P3 W2 B4 O3 J1 J2 U2 Q1 N1 I1 T2 O3 G1 E1 S4
U2 I1 L3 A2 F4 U3 Q1 T4 B2 E2 H2 L2 K3 N2 V1 F3
T2 G3 Q2 O1 S4 R1 W4 X1 Z2 Z4 W2 B2 O3 J2 J1 L3
A2 K2 L4 S3 Q2 E1 H3 M4 Q1 B4 L1 P4 I2 G1 Q1 T2
F4 O4 F2 G3 J4 H4 U4 H1 Q4 Y1 E1 N3 U1 P3 H2 S2
Y2 A4 K3 S2 S3 H2 V2 W3 Q4 M3 U3 H4 B3 F1 G1 J4
V3 K1 C4 Z3 O3 P3 H2 G3 M3 R3 Y3 O3 A2 Y1 T2 M1
E3 W1 L4 N2 Q1 O2 G3 N3 U3 I1 J4 H3 F2 T1 Z3 T1
H1 N2 D1 N1 V1 I1 U3 Q3 P3 V3 V4 Q4 B3 M3 H2 R3
V2 A2 Q4 Q1<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:35:09</i><br /><hr />PS&gt; DID ANYONE SEE THAT CAR IN THE BACKGROUND? CREEPY!!!!!!!! :p<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2006-12-07 18:35:39</i><br /><hr />Agreeing w/#44. Meet in neutral territory. Trust your instincts.<br /><i>by graceness on 2006-12-07 18:36:41</i><br /><hr />FFFFFFIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSTTTTTTT!!!!!!1111!11!! 

*salutes!*

Hooray!! They're taking action!!

Thank you Creators!!!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-07 18:36:58</i><br /><hr />Determination (#38):

I hate to agree, but this video seemed sloppy.  "The only other person I trust... is you"  *looks intently at the camera*.   Ugh.  This reminded me of when Peter Pan tries to save Tinkerbell by turning to the audience and exhorting viewers to clap their hands.

"You got a big house... and money.  But how do we know you're not part of the order?"  Again, ugh.

Daniel is veering away from his usual everyman-like believability.  He seemed out of character.  I realize it might be difficult to balance a video in which a character addresses fans with staying in character, but this one didn't achieve that balance.

What a huge difference from his last video--"Jonas?" is one of my favorite LG15 videos yet.

And the last two videos were intriguing--this one seems devoid of anything to discuss, it just sets up the fan interaction.  There must be a way to do that without cheesy lines like "we'll make a decision, based on YOUR input."  Ugh.  "Only YOU can prevent forest fires."  "Uncle Sam wants YOU to join the US Army."  "If you believe in fairies--clap YOUR hands!!"<br /><i>by Treefunk on 2006-12-07 18:37:52</i><br /><hr />Hey everyone, itâ€™s Daniel. I decided to give the meeting information to:

GoodGollyItsHolly
Main Page User Profile:
www.lonelygirl15.com/?page_id=113&amp;member=364
Forum User Profile:
www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2062

Message her with your thoughts about Jonas. If she decides that we should trust Jonasâ€¦ then we will. Thanks everyone!

Daniel<br /><i>by danielbeast on 2006-12-07 18:38:09</i><br /><hr />Sydney,

They only eat people who drink Orange Slurpees.  They need to get their fix anyway they can.

I never thought it would get this big.  It's actually kind of scary.  

What if the person who makes the decision is the one who made the first post.  Sydney, that would be you.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 18:39:05</i><br /><hr />So essentially he's setting up someone to received all of the forum's spam mail about who they should trust.  Excellent.  I opt out.  I think that it's cool that he could realize that they need to trust someone, or at least get off the streets.  Is asking his "internet friends" supposed to be the test?  Otherwise, I don't see how a test would really be.... anything but ridiculous?  I think I would have gone with Jonas a long time ago rather than living off the streets (even though I wouldn't trust him at all.  But he does get bonus points with the food and shelter).<br /><i>by fan on 2006-12-07 18:40:07</i><br /><hr />yo im 80th<br /><i>by royplay94 on 2006-12-07 18:40:11</i><br /><hr />OH MY GOD, IT'S HOLLY!!!<br /><i>by Georgia on 2006-12-07 18:40:32</i><br /><hr />i saw the car that was creepy<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:40:49</i><br /><hr />Woot Daniel! You're not giving Jonas a test (wise), you're letting the Hive Mind suss it out (also wise). Who's the lucky Decider?<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-12-07 18:42:59</i><br /><hr />haha yea i wish...but apparently its Holly...theyd pick me but I might be biased since i have insider info on orange slurpees<br /><i>by sydney on 2006-12-07 18:43:17</i><br /><hr />#78 Treefunk, LMAO at Uncle Sam!

I kinda feel bad for this Holly girl, since now she'll be absolutely floored by the amount of messages she's gonna get.  So she's really a fan then, not just another set up canon character?  Does anyone know?<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-07 18:44:22</i><br /><hr />#74 I just realized that I got similar messages from RefusEtoBeliEveLies... But mine were way easier to de-code<br /><i>by XxPrissy_GirlxX on 2006-12-07 18:45:27</i><br /><hr />is their anyone still here that rememebers my comment about me thinking cassie is bree...change of mind.  i think cassie might be holly??  eyes are kind of the same and it says she a filmmaker on her forum page....  holly if ur a real fan im sorry...but if not...uhhh..i don't know what to say.

question though:
why would they pick a real person to do the forum??? when he said that it kind of stuck me as odd.  I think it's a trick. i don't know maybe im getting ahead of myself<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:46:27</i><br /><hr />Daniel, you missed my suggestion regarding heading to Hollywood Park or Santa Anita.  Housing (such as it is) comes with entry level backside jobs, and they put you to work within minutes of you just showing up and asking for work.  There's almost no chance that the Order will have infiltrated a racetrack stable area.<br /><i>by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-07 18:46:41</i><br /><hr />I have gotten messages from RefusEtoBeliEveLies as well.<br /><i>by Ennovi on 2006-12-07 18:47:24</i><br /><hr />Wow, this is really weird.  I agree with Treefunk, I kind of got that "Only you can prevent forest fires" (#78) feeling too.  I like that they are taking our feelings into account, but I am not sure this is the way I would have done it.  Now poor GoodGollyItsHolly is going to have her inbox flooded with 50,000 messages saying "Go to Jonas's house, he's hot!"

Daniel, I love you, you're awesome, and I'm glad that you trust us, but I think you should make the decision for yourself.  And, for the sake of the story, our entertainment, and your health, just go to Jonas's house and get it over with!<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-07 18:48:02</i><br /><hr />Ooooh Holly, the Chosen One!!!

What should Daniel do?  I say going to Jonas would be an interesting way for the story to go, but is that in Daniel and Bree's best interest?<br /><i>by elliemae on 2006-12-07 18:48:07</i><br /><hr />who is holly girl?<br /><i>by royplay94 on 2006-12-07 18:49:59</i><br /><hr />and i htink go to jonas

is an 19 year old really going to put 2 teenagers in harms way?<br /><i>by royplay94 on 2006-12-07 18:50:48</i><br /><hr />Oh, by the way, we hear a chainsaw in this one, and I swear I heard a chainsaw a ways back in a Jonas video (maybe in Trust Issues?).  Location proximity?  Two random chainsaw ocurrences?<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-07 18:50:56</i><br /><hr />What is with the whole face-scratching thing ?<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-07 18:51:21</i><br /><hr />Well, I did the outward in method to come up with.... 

I don't think I messed up:

hSogeafaeTmsc iuodmrsWunTi
adiadaamdihkllistweRswnHhn
hsaeateOlobatYuefdUmhswCfi
AdiadaamdihkllifeohetreshN

his tongue was framed to music
and hi hand was armed with skill
his face was them Ould of beauty
And his aedrataemh do iehf kill<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2006-12-07 18:53:54</i><br /><hr />someone in the forums that "Holly is in the chat room in a room called "should they go?".<br /><i>by Nat on 2006-12-07 18:54:05</i><br /><hr />#89 adritha, I'm with you on that question.  How did Daniel just pick a random fan?  I mean, how does he know where she even lives, so that she can meet up with him?  It doesn't say anywhere on her profile, she could be half way across the world.  So how can he just pick a time and place and expect her to be there?  I mean as fans I'd say we're pretty addicted to Lonelycrack, but we can't drop everything in our lives and be there.<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-07 18:54:34</i><br /><hr />GoodGollyItsHolly is a admin in the forums.<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-07 18:56:24</i><br /><hr />thanks mikel888 but it really makes no sense...maybe more clues will come along with it<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:56:55</i><br /><hr />CranberryApple... No...

She will find out if they should go to Jonas house or not... and then Daniel and Jonas will message to Holly to exchange information, so the info is not 'available on a forum' somewhere.

Then Jonas and Daniel (and bree) will meet up at the place they discussed through Holly.

Get it?<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2006-12-07 18:57:44</i><br /><hr />yup she's there! and Daniel WAS there too!<br /><i>by Nat on 2006-12-07 18:58:16</i><br /><hr />exactly cranberryapple....but i think the time and place just meant the forum.  but her profile says owen's keeper.  that's a little wierd<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 18:58:52</i><br /><hr />Well I'm not sure who Holly is but she looks cute in her picture.  She's probably going to get a lot of messages on what to decide.  But no matter which choice she makes she'll get a lot more irate messages that she chose poorly.

Holly,

Do what you want.  Who cares what everyone else thinks.

For the record, I say they should borrow money from Jonas to buy their own 7-11.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 18:59:41</i><br /><hr />#103 mikel888: Aww I feel kinda foolish now, haha.  Actually, I'm in the chat right now so I figured out I completely misinterpreted it, and I was came back here to correct myself, but you beat me to it!  Thanks though!<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-07 19:02:07</i><br /><hr />Do they make Cranberry Apple Slurpies?<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2006-12-07 19:02:37</i><br /><hr />Uhm.  Didnt he have a haircut at the awards the other night?  So does this mean this vid was made a week ago?????

Also,  how has Daniel been shaving since he is homeless????<br /><i>by mommy72900 on 2006-12-07 19:03:12</i><br /><hr />There's a chat in here?  *gasp*  I'm so LG15 illiterate myself.... *gasp*<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2006-12-07 19:03:29</i><br /><hr />how do we find where holly is going to be just go to her profile and pm here???<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 19:03:42</i><br /><hr />Sydney,

I was close your names both end in "Y"<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 19:07:12</i><br /><hr />Daniel, forget about Jonas.  Instead, pick up a phone, call your parents, or a friend and say, "I need help. Please come and get us."  Too simple, yeh but it works.<br /><i>by mofun10801 on 2006-12-07 19:09:56</i><br /><hr />Can't they find one Western Union in this Breeniverse?

Just having random thoughts...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2006-12-07 19:10:47</i><br /><hr />Way to go Daniel....put ur trust in a bunch of lonelycrack addicts, Orange slurpee cultists and Firstsayers.....smart thinking dude.  U and Miles must have hit an early happy hour today.  Oh and one more thing, comments is where the action is dude.....if ur reading the forum u are so out of touch!!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-07 19:22:52</i><br /><hr />Daniel is scratching his face because he hasn't showered in several days.

Arrrggggg!  I'm "on the road again" and have to use a hotel wifi connection to view this... And it is increadably S L O W!!  No way to get involved with the chat with the Chosen One :(<br /><i>by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-07 19:33:16</i><br /><hr />Um... interesting. I say go to Jonas'. If he tries anything funny- BAM!- ice cold slushee to the face and then P-monkey can get medieval on his behind. A purple slushee + a purple monkey= doom to evil doers.<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 19:33:21</i><br /><hr />I really like this video.   I think he's conveying a lot of honesty and he just feels like he's at his wits end and doesn't know what to do anymore.<br /><i>by beachlovr9 on 2006-12-07 19:47:03</i><br /><hr />ohhhhh jeez. I'm scared for them to go to jonas's<br /><i>by hella_samira on 2006-12-07 19:51:03</i><br /><hr />oooOOOOoooOOOOooooooOOOOO
That's really a cool way to have character interaction! :)<br /><i>by eno on 2006-12-07 19:56:50</i><br /><hr />Lizard,

You have a bunch of tests.  Then you come here for a fix and what do they call the video "The Test"

I think the cult is out to drive you mad.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 19:58:59</i><br /><hr />I am actually kindof confused about what he is going to do??? the person on the forum will give jonas the place and time if they trust him???? huhhh sorry i am so dumb and confused lol<br /><i>by cacacarkeys on 2006-12-07 20:03:28</i><br /><hr />*amazed* Oh wow, Joe, you're right. *eyes narrow* I must be getting too close with my wacky theories about Purple Monkey and in my participation in the analysis of the orange slushee scheme. Maybe they sabotaged your cheese, too, Joe, or planted it to make you sick. 

My God, that means Syd is next. 

RUN, SYDNEY, RUN!<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 20:06:15</i><br /><hr />if i decide that jonas is trustworthy, based on what i hear from all of you, i will tell Jonas the time and location.<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-07 20:07:16</i><br /><hr />I see there being no problem with going to Jonas house...just as long as they're prepared and ready for anything.  We have to be rational, but cautious...go to Jonas house but stay on your toes.<br /><i>by MagicianX on 2006-12-07 20:11:36</i><br /><hr />Lizard,

We're all in danger.  How many hallways does Jonas have in that house?<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 20:13:33</i><br /><hr />Are you sure we can trust Jonas? How do we know its safe?<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-07 20:16:19</i><br /><hr />it's you #124?<br /><i>by MagicianX on 2006-12-07 20:16:42</i><br /><hr />Good decision Holly.

Maybe Bree will do some proving science wrong videos about things she finds at Jonas's house.

Hmmmm?<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 20:17:20</i><br /><hr />#127 well we know that staying outside in the cold and eating garbage that can get them sick is alot less safe than being in a house with warm beds and finally hot showers and delicious meals freashly made.<br /><i>by MagicianX on 2006-12-07 20:20:25</i><br /><hr />hey guys! i have been away a long time what's goin on<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-07 20:24:48</i><br /><hr />mary,

You get to vote on what Daniel and Bree do next.  Go to Jonas or not.  You tell GoodGollyItsHolly what you thinks.  She adds up the results and tells Daniel what to do.

Either the creators are out of ideas or they are really stupid and think we know what's best.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 20:29:40</i><br /><hr />Oh yea, and according to Cassie, Jonas is the spawn of Charles Manson.  That should give you comfort.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-07 20:32:15</i><br /><hr />#127 Holly... I agree with MagicianX. We don't know Jonas is safe, but we *do* know that living on street refuse is definitely not. Go but stick close together and be cautious.<br /><i>by fryebaby on 2006-12-07 20:33:19</i><br /><hr />ok... anxiety is hitting.

it's up to us to decide what they do and how to do it safely..

if Jonas IS part of the Order... and they go there...

nah.. I'm sticking with the Gemma was turned theory.. and fingers are crossed on Jonas..

Lizard.. hehe, did you finish your take home yet?


Joe - you sound like you're feeling better... hooray!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-07 20:34:01</i><br /><hr />final<br /><i>by arabella on 2006-12-07 20:35:15</i><br /><hr />everyone, its time for yoshi's awsome possem (insert something that rhymes with awsome) prediction of doom!!

ok everyone sees how daniel and jonas both are scratching their noses.
each time they do this, it is realy a super sub sonic secret code, that tells each other messages!!

now, afeter years of researching these mesages, i have found out that this is how it basicaly goes:
Jonas: come to my house i have money
daniel: no
Jonas: pleas come
daniel: no
jonas: then please go bye a orange slurpee.
daniel: ok
jonas: HHAAHHAHAHAHA
(the next day)
jonas: pleas come
daniel: ok (DUN DUN DUN)
so u see jonas FORCED daniel to bye an orange slurpee, which will lead to his eminent DEATH

then bree goes to jonas, and they laugf at how daniel died.

thats wut happened, and has been happening since way back in september!


im so good at this<br /><i>by yoshi8710 on 2006-12-07 20:35:22</i><br /><hr />Holly, I say they should meet with him first, then go to his house if they get a good vibe from him. That's really neither choice A or B, but option C that Daniel didn't give, but hey! I think it's a plan! ;) 

I know, Joe. I'm scared. I'm going to sleep with one eye open tonight. And I bet you I'm going to lost a contact that way... (Yes, I sleep in my contacts. Yes, I know it's bad. No, I won't stop, because if someone breaks into my apartment, I don't want to blindly offer them Kibble thinking it's my dog being restless.)<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 20:36:34</i><br /><hr />whats up with the oragne slurpee's???<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-07 20:42:21</i><br /><hr />it's like a choose your own adventure book!<br /><i>by eleventwenty on 2006-12-07 20:42:57</i><br /><hr />lol just wait for Holly to be cannon.<br /><i>by ana on 2006-12-07 20:44:18</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy, I must sheepishly admit that I'm still working on it. I know I shouldn't interrupt my progress to get on this web site, somewhere the voice of responsibility is screaming, "STOP, STOP, you have an exam under your elbow, woman!" But then this other voice was chanting "Law school is making me insane" decided to tie the other voice up in a corner and gag her. So... I'm taking a break. :P 

It's going all right. As weird as the course has been so far (transcendental philsophy and property, Labrador Indians dividing up hunting grounds, the over-hunting of otters, etc), I understood a lot more than I thought I did. And it's pouring back out of my brain from somewhere I didn't know even existed. But it IS 37 pages long. *sigh* So I'm going to be at this for a while, I suppose.<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 20:44:39</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy7,

I'm getting use to the cough syrup so my brain is working a little better, a little.  Unfortunately it also means that my body has gotten use to it, so my cough got worse. :(<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 20:46:12</i><br /><hr />ooh.. Joe.. I'm sorry. I haven't tried it yet but they've got an anti-cough strip thing that's supposed to work for 24 hours... maybe if you get those.. you can actually get some sleep?!

Lizard - lmao, I'm SOO not surprised.. I'm betting that the more you write... the more the pages in your brain will open and facts will come flooding out.. hang in there!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-07 20:51:11</i><br /><hr />What ever happens with what is decided...the only thing I want is the next time we see a watcher I want them to look SINISTER*evil laugh* dark cloak or something not someone who looks like a runaway groom  chainsmoker who gets his fix on spying on underage girls.<br /><i>by MagicianX on 2006-12-07 20:54:17</i><br /><hr />oh jesus......
go to jonas' but dont trust him.
you need someplace to stayyyyyyyy and it sucks cos he's the only option. 

someone said can a 19 year old really put two teenagers in harm's way?

yes!

age has nothing to do with it. if he's associated with the order, he can have dangerous people behind him.<br /><i>by lets_steal_everythin on 2006-12-07 20:54:21</i><br /><hr />FFFFIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSTTTTTT111111!!!!!!!
Private Toad salutes the General.

This could be good or bad.
I am voting for them to go if for no other reason than we need something to happen for a change.

If Jonas is wearing one of his mothers dresses and talking to himself lots then run B+D.<br /><i>by Toad on 2006-12-07 21:00:32</i><br /><hr />37 PAGES!

Are they going to make you walk on hot coals to hand it in.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 21:02:06</i><br /><hr />FEA ALR KIS...
DTSH OTTO NRTP OUOE.
AHEEIAT NESSGWS ORTSHAM TRLNTIE.
TEOTETV ONLRSWE. PSLIAE TTSKTL
REENTS: EMRLH MBOYI
SPNNARV LILEPOI ESYSEML... EOACFE
AUSCBK LGTOEI THIULN HILLUG... OTLDR
RAFFB ITOYE GTOOD. HHTU TEOR
SERM WTES. EDA<br /><i>by SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL on 2006-12-07 21:07:18</i><br /><hr />AwWwWwWw he trust us............sweet!!!<br /><i>by KyndraMayo2007 on 2006-12-07 21:09:16</i><br /><hr />Okay, Daniel. Tell Jonas to email you a Wal-Mart gift code. Use the gift code to buy a rifle and bullets (and maybe a little Turkey Jerky). 
 Take said rifle with you to Jonas house.
If he gets out of line in any way, shoot one of his toes off.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-07 21:10:50</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy7,

Unfortunately most over the counter stuff doesn't work for me and you can't take it for a prolonged period of time.  I'm basically screwed.

But at least we have a new video that has moved the plot along.  Oh wait we don't have a video like that.  DAM!!!!!<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 21:11:59</i><br /><hr />jc-gypsy, "Lizard - lmao, Iâ€™m SOO not surprised.. Iâ€™m betting that the more you writeâ€¦ the more the pages in your brain will open and facts will come flooding out.. hang in there!"

I'm trying! Man, though, I'm on the fifth article and it just seems like it will never end. At the end of this article, there are 6 more mini-essay questions. And then another article. With six mini-essay questions. And afte reading all 37 pages and answering all the mini-essay questions, the cherry on top of this Property sundae is that my response can be no longer than 8 pages. I have 12 mini-essays and two pages left. *beating head against desk* I can't be asked to be succinct! I was an English major, for crying out loud! We practically minored in long-windedness!

But thanks for the encouragement. :) It did make me feel better. 

Joe, 
I don't know about the coals... I think it's more likely that it'll be broken glass with no shoes allowed. It's been kinda dry out lately and Property profs are very environmentally conscious. Mustn't start a fire while torturing one's students. :P<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 21:12:59</i><br /><hr />So that's your game eh #149<br /><i>by MagicianX on 2006-12-07 21:13:09</i><br /><hr />lizard? what??? run??? im next??? ahhhh im doomed! wait...how do u know im next??? o no theyve already sucked u in<br /><i>by sydney on 2006-12-07 21:13:51</i><br /><hr />There is a lot to consider here... I'm not sure what to do!<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-07 21:14:01</i><br /><hr />A TEST HUH?

To determine trust?  Well considering we all lost a lot of trust after that "INTERACTIVE" chat (yea right)... I say we should TEST THE CREATORS!!!

Its obvious they want the story to lead to Jonas... so lets see if they are willng to abandon that idea to keep integrity.  How will we know what the majority wants if there is no poll.  Well, after you email that link just put write in the forum  TEST THE CREATORS: VOTE NO!

ANYONE AGREE?<br /><i>by jayusmc1986 on 2006-12-07 21:18:47</i><br /><hr />It's like Final Destination, Sydney. You just learn to watch the signs. And I saw a poster outside the student union today reading, "Sydney's next." At the time, I just figured someone was announcing their travel plans...<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 21:20:37</i><br /><hr />Great!
Opening up the polls to weigh in on destiny?
Only in cyberspace, my friends.
Daniel, I sure hope that you know what you're doing.

Granted, your options were few.
Only a true fan wouldn't lead you astray.
Let's see now.
Leave the warehouse and go to Jonas, stay, or go home?
You really don't even need to ask, do you?

It's clear that Jonas is your best option.
Truth be told, it's the more interesting option.
Starving you are? So are we -- for a little plot development.

Holly has a meaty decision to make.
Open up the story to new possibilities through Jonas? 
Let it die like an unfed plot in an abandoned warehouse?
Losing, listless, lifeless meandering tales are not an option.
Yes, Holly. YES! Tell them to go to Jonas' house.<br /><i>by Moonpies on 2006-12-07 21:20:51</i><br /><hr />Holly, create a poll in the forums, maybe? And tell everyone here how to find it?<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 21:21:23</i><br /><hr />i think Lizard's idea about meeting Jonas in a neutral place, not his house, is a good one<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-07 21:22:34</i><br /><hr />Holly,

Think, what would E.T do.  He's from an advanced Alien species that has mastered space travel and has brought a whole new meaning to the joke "Pull my finger"

Tell Bree and Daniel to go home.


Lizard,

Make sure they use recycled glass.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 21:26:40</i><br /><hr />who to trust? who to trust. i still trust no one.  (are there any other choices?) good luck holly!<br /><i>by StarrySkyPixy on 2006-12-07 21:32:53</i><br /><hr />Well, this isn't really about Jonas, but regarding trust...
BREE:
Your parents said to stay with Daniel.
Gemma says you should trust Daniel.
Jonas even says you should trust Daniel.
Wait.. someone said not to trust him... that he didn't have your best interests in mind... hmmm... ah yes, LUCY, the woman who STOLE YOUR PARENTS.
So I'm thinking, maybe you should trust Daniel.<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-07 21:34:02</i><br /><hr />#149 
SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL (send note) Says: 
December 7th, 2006 at 9:07 pm 
FEA ALR KISâ€¦
DTSH OTTO NRTP OUOE.
AHEEIAT NESSGWS ORTSHAM TRLNTIE.
TEOTETV ONLRSWE. PSLIAE TTSKTL
REENTS: EMRLH MBOYI
SPNNARV LILEPOI ESYSEMLâ€¦ EOACFE
AUSCBK LGTOEI THIULN HILLUGâ€¦ OTLDR
RAFFB ITOYE GTOOD. HHTU TEOR
SERM WTES. EDA 


FAKE LIARS
DO NOT TRUST TO HOPE
ANOTHER RESTLESS NIGHT AWAITS ME
TOP TEN'S TOLL STRIKES AT TWELVE
REMEMBER ONLY THIS
SLEEP IS ONLY AN ESCAPE FROM EVIL
ALTHOUGH IT STILL COULD BE LURKING 
RIGHT AT THE FOOT OF YOUR BED
SWEET DREAMS

The stuffed animals?<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-07 21:34:35</i><br /><hr />And NO, before anyone gets confused, Thor did not say not to trust Daniel, but merely *may* have said that he didn't like Daniel.  And bear (no pun) in mind that this was right after Daniel said he and Bree could eat the stuffed animals if they ran out of food.<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-07 21:37:04</i><br /><hr />GoodGollyItsHolly,

You're a brave girl!<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-12-07 21:37:37</i><br /><hr />I'll be glad when these stupid anagrams die out. They're more annoying than liver.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-07 21:38:51</i><br /><hr />Thanks for all your advice!<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-07 21:40:18</i><br /><hr />Ugh, Comcast is crap lately.  I don't think this posted the first time.

I agree that meeting at a neutral site to gauge what Jonas is like is a good idea.  But in the end I'd say the main priority is to get off the streets!

My 2 cents, plus a quarter for Lizard (and good luck with exams).

*Wanders off to bed as the Nyquil kicks in*<br /><i>by AlliBean on 2006-12-07 21:44:01</i><br /><hr />So should I stay up to see if Holly makes a decision or get some sleep for work tomorrow. Hmmm?

Holly, What do you think I should do?<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 21:44:18</i><br /><hr />#169 GoodGollyItsHolly,

"Thanks for all your advice!"

Anyone else notice she didn't write:
Thanks for all you "good" advice!<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 21:47:10</i><br /><hr />Daniel looks like a young Al Pacino! 

Anyway, he's a little too clean shaven for someone who is living in a warehouse. ;)<br /><i>by Sister on 2006-12-07 21:51:26</i><br /><hr />ah jeez.. Allibean &amp; Joe sick..............

k... you guys need to get better, but your votes should be counted!

Lizard - lol, as you finish each paper... give yourself X amount of input here.. so you can enjoy as you work!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-07 21:52:37</i><br /><hr />I think they should go to Jonas's, but I think Bree should wear her Wonder Woman costume and Daniel his bunny suit when they go to meet him.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-12-07 21:52:53</i><br /><hr />Why cant it be me? ... :( lol! Maybe next time!<br /><i>by Aidan on 2006-12-07 21:53:48</i><br /><hr />Imm gonna sleep on it! You should sleep too :)

I will make a poll in the forums tonight. Make sure to give reasons, a simple vote wont be enough to convince me either way.<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-07 21:57:07</i><br /><hr />TRUST JONAS<br /><i>by OLIVIA on 2006-12-07 22:00:25</i><br /><hr />I like this plan.<br /><i>by jpfeiffer88 on 2006-12-07 22:00:58</i><br /><hr />Thanks for the quarter, Alliebean!

jc_gypsy, that's the plan... I'm especially more interested in being here since I hit the first question I don't have the foggiest notion on. ACK. 

Joe, stay awake! It's fuuuun. Besides, misery loves company. :P 

Speaking of misery, the one freaking thing I didn't write down in my notes and it's half of this answer. And I wrote down EVERYTHING. Including "Je ne think so pas!", one of my prof's habitual exclamations, every stinking time he said it.

But mostly because I thought it was funny. I kept thinking, "somewhere, someone French burst inexplicably into tears."<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 22:01:25</i><br /><hr />Happy John Lennon day:)<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-07 22:02:27</i><br /><hr />Ohhh, that's just cheesy now: Daniel calling out to the viewers to make a weighty decision.  Producers--great way to ruin a fantastic series with this whole public voting business.  Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy hearing the fans get acknowledged in the vids, but this is just over-the-top generic reality-TV parroting.  Bring back the old style vids, and drop the reality-TV 'drama'.  Please don't turn the amazing series into something as laughable as The Bachelor.<br /><i>by earthinsoul on 2006-12-07 22:02:45</i><br /><hr />I cant do the GGH message. So i will just say. Dont trust Jonas unless you have too and i am sure between the two of you you have a family or friends that arent in the order. I is completely ridiculous to live on the street like that.<br /><i>by Cherry on 2006-12-07 22:03:51</i><br /><hr />they should trust jonas, then as a team check out B&amp;D's homes, kicking ass and taking names!!<br /><i>by cloud_ax on 2006-12-07 22:05:26</i><br /><hr />So is GoodGollyItsHolly some kinda bot?  And how many times can we vote against psycho boy son of satan Jonas?<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-07 22:05:52</i><br /><hr />Holly said I should go to sleep :)

Good night everybody.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-07 22:07:17</i><br /><hr />http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=92248#92248

There is the forum vote.<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-07 22:09:11</i><br /><hr />And who the heck told Daniel that Bree should not do the Ceremony.  He did not ask me. Did he ask you?  Didn't think so.  I am all for the moonchild ascending!!!!!!!!  So my advice Daniel is call 1-800-THE-ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-07 22:09:20</i><br /><hr />yea yea. i vote. meet him. im readdy for a plot chang.e<br /><i>by here4laffs on 2006-12-07 22:11:53</i><br /><hr />kudous danielbeast haha he doesnt trust his own parents..ouch well anyways heres the thing if jonas is infact apart of the order who cares hes like danilebeasts age why not go stay and depending on if jonas is apart of the order and weather they find out right away or later on still u have places to stay..if he is leave right away same thing with the hotels no biggie<br /><i>by blondeambition on 2006-12-07 22:15:55</i><br /><hr />

You guys need to try harder.

Anybody who cares to do a brief scan of the forums can easily tell Holly is official.

This is not fan interaction. This is the appearance of fan interaction.

Holly will tell Bree and Daniel to go to Jonas' and the plot will move on.

Tell the story you want to tell. But please, spare us the cheap parlor tricks. You have a unique medium, a compelling story, and very good actors and actresses. You do not need this stuff.<br /><i>by dogger on 2006-12-07 22:19:50</i><br /><hr />All right, I have to go walk my dog, clear my head, and try very hard not to lose it now... 

I think I'm just getting tired and I don't want to do it anymore. Send positive energy my way if you will, guys. I need it.<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-07 22:20:04</i><br /><hr />Modelmotion (#115):

Best analysis yet!!  Still lol...<br /><i>by Treefunk on 2006-12-07 22:22:41</i><br /><hr />Unless we want to see them squatting in a warehouse arguing over puppets and proving science wrong with Del Taco wrappers, the only thing they can do is go to Jonas.
 However, the living arrangements need to be a bit different than what was described. No Bree downstairs by herself!
Downstairs is fine (better chances of running away),but I think that if Bree and Daniel can share a pallet in a warehouse, they can share a bedroom.
 
Locking doors are also a must.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-07 22:23:06</i><br /><hr />Holly I don't think it's a question of whether it's safe or not...I think it's a question of what gives Daniel and Bree more control. Out on the streets Daniel and Bree have no control over their situation. With Jonas at least they will have a little more control over the situation. I think it's picking the lesser of the two evils. If they stay on the streets we KNOW FOR SURE it is dangerous. If they go to Jonas' house at least there is a chance that it isn't dangerous. We also know by watch in the OpAphid videos that going home is not an option. So let them meet up with Jonas. I have no reason to trust him, but I don't have any reason not to trust him either. However, I DO have a reason not to trust them staying on the streets.<br /><i>by froppo on 2006-12-07 22:24:11</i><br /><hr />I tried to go to Holly's forum but it wouldn't let me sign in! If I could sign in I would vote NO!<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2006-12-07 22:24:41</i><br /><hr />modelmotion that's hilarious...Holly a bot!!!HAHAHHAH<br /><i>by MagicianX on 2006-12-07 22:27:08</i><br /><hr />A test?? Okay that is a waste of time. Daniel GO HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is that a clear enough message for you? If you trust us, don't go to a strange guys house...I mean come on you learned that since the day you could walk. This Jonas kid wierdo and at night kidnap Bree or something while you are sleeping. That is all I have to say.<br /><i>by bettyboop7 on 2006-12-07 22:33:57</i><br /><hr />Daniel..   

Name is Marcus.  I have been kind of decoding all of this stuff between the Deacons and such.  Jonas is not to be trusted.  The Deacons basically called him a demon.  I mean it sounds as if the Deacons are trying to protect Bree... you cant trust Jon-ass.  

I vote to ABSOLUTELY NOT go to Jon-ass' house..  go home.

I mean logically if the Deacons are good people you dont go to Jon-ass' house no worries.  If you do and the Deacons were right then your walking into a monumental trap. 

As far as Gemma your right I dont know about her either.<br /><i>by Marcus on 2006-12-07 22:34:29</i><br /><hr />I am sooo onto you Creators. First, you make me sign up on this website because it's needed to access the chat.  Next, you are making us all create a Forum profile to vote on where the story goes. Well I guess I have to ask...what comes next?

Why can't you just decide for us where you want this story to go?  You've been doing an okay job so far.  I mean...you created Jonas for a reason, right? So just use him already.

That having been said...I still don't trust him.<br /><i>by StarrySkyPixy on 2006-12-07 22:37:13</i><br /><hr />Trust NoOne!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-07 22:39:23</i><br /><hr />GoodGollyItsHolly: VOTE NO ON PROPOSITION GO TO JONAS'S HOUSE! You asked for reason's? I'll give you 6!

1) Jonas is obviously lying! He can't say anything without scratching his face or being shifty.

2) He's greasy looking! A guy who brags about being rich should take better care of himself.

3) Jonas looked like he was on drugs in his last video! He had huge bags under his eyes and he just looked, well, EVIL!

4) Jonas is way too pushy. He says he feels bad for Bree and Daniel but he sure doesn't show it. He has no empathy! 

5) He's just plain creepy! What did our parents tell us? DON'T TALK TO STRANGERS! He's way too eager to connect with a desperate girl on the internet. 

6) If Jonas is so generous and just wants to help, I'm sure he could send them money or get them a place to stay away from him first. 

So there you have it! :) Please don't send them there!<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2006-12-07 22:40:32</i><br /><hr />go to  jonassssss<br /><i>by gracie on 2006-12-07 22:51:58</i><br /><hr />#202 SuzyQS~
(You have my name! heh. :))I agree. ^.^ and all that is very good reasoning.

On the other hand, I think it might make for an interesting story...but that's just me.<br /><i>by The Mighty Zan on 2006-12-07 22:54:02</i><br /><hr />DON'T GO TO JONASSSSSSSSSSSSSAS House. His name has the word ASS in it. That's can't be good. But, no, seriously, He's BAAAAAAAD news! :P<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2006-12-07 22:54:41</i><br /><hr />TheMightyZan&gt; Yes, well, I think all my posting is in vain. I'm sure they will go to his house. They will have fun and everything will be just peachy. Then, we'll get a video shot by Daniel as he flees Jonas's house in the middle of the night.....without Bree. While I do like conflict and all...I dunno. Once they take it to the edge..where do you go? Like NOW for instance. We've just been stalling FOReva!!! :(<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2006-12-07 22:59:12</i><br /><hr />SuzyQS~ True, but we do need some kind of climax at some point.  Otherwise people are going to get bored and we will have been waiting around for nothing.  And then geez more waiting around forever.
...
I guess it is a no win situation...*sigh* oh well.<br /><i>by The Mighty Zan on 2006-12-07 23:04:17</i><br /><hr />lol Joe (way down at 132) i meant what was goin' on in the land of the discussion boards!  :) but thank you for the help getting oriented in the story anyway :).  i'm sorry to hear that you're sick :( and i noticed that Lizard is in the middle of finals (GO LIZARD you'll be setting the curve dear) and Marbella is back now that we have this saf-tee log-in method... 

i dropped out of the discussion and wanted to make sure all were well!  

push fluids...<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-07 23:06:07</i><br /><hr />#165 Perky and SOLEP--

You said "TOP TENâ€™S TOLL STRIKES AT TWELVE"

Could that be a reference to the whole Dec. 10 thing?<br /><i>by Kimmy on 2006-12-07 23:10:36</i><br /><hr />oh he's already sleeping.  yeah good idea Joe.  Joe's white cells, go at it!!
Lizard!!!  best of luck, but don't worry, seriously, you're gonna knock them all out of the ball park, or whatever.  you know what you're doing.  you "get" law- that there is no "right" or "wrong" answer just better or worse arguments... uh... i'm really tired so this pep-speech isn't very peppy... but make sure to get at least 5 hours of sleep.  good luck!<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-07 23:11:35</i><br /><hr />Hey.. if you guys end up going to Jonas' house after all.. PLEASE take extra special care of the laptop (and yourselves, of course!)

If it turns out Jonas is up to no good, he PROBABLY won't let you use his computer to upload videos here, and you definitely won't find an internet cafÃ© in the middle of nowhere.<br /><i>by OhSnap on 2006-12-07 23:13:37</i><br /><hr />Here's my long input..if anyopne actually pays attention to my long inputs because i only rarely post and i don't keep in touch with you guys or talk to you guys on a regular basis like you do with each other. However, here goes.
First off, I want to know what happened to the little fling Daniel and Bree had going in the way earlier videos. Daniel kissed her at a party and then we never heard about the fling again. So..what happened? Can we hear more about this or further it or do something with it. Because a fling/relationship doesn't just disappear.
Second, I think  Daniel leaving this decision in the hands of his fans is a stupid decision. If this were real, and in this particular situation, we will pretend that it is, who knows how many cult members are actually members of this forum. They could easily create many accounts under different e-mails, and now, with this power of being able to e-mail this holly character/person, they could easily take charge of how she makes her decision. OR what if Holly is part of the cult? she could easily ignore our inputs and just tell daniel to go to jonas' house. in either situation, the cult would have control. why did the creators even have daniel ask us for advice? half of the people in here will tell him to go to jonas' house just because he's hot. 
By the way, does anybody else find 19 year old jonas very suspicious in the fact that he's 19 and extremely rich? did i miss why he's rich? and when did he become rich? what age? because  didn't he inherit his house at the same time? in order to own a house don't you have to be 18? i don't know if i missed anything here but things just don't make sense. 
The third thing i wanted to mention was, I think Daniel is right in not trusting Gemma. Although, at one point it would have seemed as if we could trust Gemma, in her last video, she seemed very demanding and very desperate to get Bree and Daniel home. Why?
Fourth, I agree with the posts about giving the stuffed animals to charity. Who knows what they bugged?
Fifth, what really did happen to Bree's parents?
Sixth, I saw a post asking why Daniel couldn't just recieve money from his parents? I have to agree. Do they know what's going on? or did Daniel just run away from home? In that case, aren't they worried about thier son. Why haven't they sent police out looking for him yet. Or if they do know what's going on, does Daniel keep in touch with them?
I don't know. Nothing seems to make sense. There's too many of our questions that are going unanswered. I know there's a lot of comments to read, but the creators really need to catch up and answer some of them through videos. I would be willing to wait a few days for a longer, better video that actually answers questions and thickens the plot, than see a short, crappy video that just leaves us hanging even more than we were before. 
Oh and before I forget I have two more things to add.
1) I want to know about all of these messages such as:
WHEN I SEE YOU CHILLS RUN DOWN MY SPINE
YOU DONâ€™T KNOW WHAT AWAITS YOU
TOP TEN
LOOK TO THE NECK OF YOUR PREDATOR
NEVER TURN YOUR BACK
DO NOT BITE FIRST 

and

hSogeafaeTmsc iuodmrsWunTi
adiadaamdihkllistweRswnHhn
hsaeateOlobatYuefdUmhswCfi
AdiadaamdihkllifeohetreshN

U3 L1 F3 A2 J4 Q1 M1 H1 Z4 R4 D3 L4 A3 T1 W1 T4
W4 G4 S3 K3 N2 Z3 S1 E1 F1 O3 N2 F3 G3 K3 P4 B3
I1 N1 W4 B1 Z2 Y2 P3 P R4 H2 Z3 E1 P3 Z3 R4 H1
Q4 P O3 W1 B1 K3 B3 E1 H2 E2 F4 W2 S4 T2 W4 Z3
R4 P3 W2 B4 O3 J1 J2 U2 Q1 N1 I1 T2 O3 G1 E1 S4
U2 I1 L3 A2 F4 U3 Q1 T4 B2 E2 H2 L2 K3 N2 V1 F3
T2 G3 Q2 O1 S4 R1 W4 X1 Z2 Z4 W2 B2 O3 J2 J1 L3
A2 K2 L4 S3 Q2 E1 H3 M4 Q1 B4 L1 P4 I2 G1 Q1 T2
F4 O4 F2 G3 J4 H4 U4 H1 Q4 Y1 E1 N3 U1 P3 H2 S2
Y2 A4 K3 S2 S3 H2 V2 W3 Q4 M3 U3 H4 B3 F1 G1 J4
V3 K1 C4 Z3 O3 P3 H2 G3 M3 R3 Y3 O3 A2 Y1 T2 M1
E3 W1 L4 N2 Q1 O2 G3 N3 U3 I1 J4 H3 F2 T1 Z3 T1
H1 N2 D1 N1 V1 I1 U3 Q3 P3 V3 V4 Q4 B3 M3 H2 R3
V2 A2 Q4 Q1 

and

FEA ALR KISâ€¦
DTSH OTTO NRTP OUOE.
AHEEIAT NESSGWS ORTSHAM TRLNTIE.
TEOTETV ONLRSWE. PSLIAE TTSKTL
REENTS: EMRLH MBOYI
SPNNARV LILEPOI ESYSEMLâ€¦ EOACFE
AUSCBK LGTOEI THIULN HILLUGâ€¦ OTLDR
RAFFB ITOYE GTOOD. HHTU TEOR
SERM WTES. EDA 

and

SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL (send note) Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
FEA ALR KISâ€¦
DTSH OTTO NRTP OUOE.
AHEEIAT NESSGWS ORTSHAM TRLNTIE.
TEOTETV ONLRSWE. PSLIAE TTSKTL
REENTS: EMRLH MBOYI
SPNNARV LILEPOI ESYSEMLâ€¦ EOACFE
AUSCBK LGTOEI THIULN HILLUGâ€¦ OTLDR
RAFFB ITOYE GTOOD. HHTU TEOR
SERM WTES. EDA 

FAKE LIARS
DO NOT TRUST TO HOPE
ANOTHER RESTLESS NIGHT AWAITS ME
TOP TENâ€™S TOLL STRIKES AT TWELVE
REMEMBER ONLY THIS
SLEEP IS ONLY AN ESCAPE FROM EVIL
ALTHOUGH IT STILL COULD BE LURKING
RIGHT AT THE FOOT OF YOUR BED
SWEET DREAMS

oh yes..and WHY DID Daniel suddenly change his mind about going to Jonas'
Like I said..too many unanswered questions..
-Heather *<br /><i>by MoonSylentDragon on 2006-12-07 23:23:10</i><br /><hr />Who cares about the codes!? Bree should do a video..ProOOOoving dumb codes wrong!!!! :P<br /><i>by SuzyQS on 2006-12-07 23:31:55</i><br /><hr />Writers...it is not up to the fans to decide the plot...do your job-oh and make them go to Jonas's house because if you don't everything will suck. 

Why does Daniel trust internet people and not Jonas...Jonas is an internet person isn't he?

Has anyone taken logic out there or is it just me?

You don't really even of had to have taken a logic course, it is just common sense. 

Oh well, at least they might go to Jonas's. Yeah more white hallways.<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-07 23:35:04</i><br /><hr />Someone needs to shut up "SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL". I mean for God's sake NO ONE CARES ANYMORE. Just go back to wanking it in a strip club like you normally do if you weren's annoying us with these ridiculus anagrams and shut up!

And what's with the anagrams anyway? there is no need for them. just a puzzling poem should be enough for this sad littl game you're trying to play with us.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:36:16</i><br /><hr />Bones I was having this discussion with the anagram people earlier.

It is pointless to argue with them about it.

I have come to realize that sometimes you just have to deal with annoying people.

It sucks but that is life.<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-07 23:39:32</i><br /><hr />Shut up Lovelygirl 24. "Has anyone taken logic out ther or is it jsut me?" what like a university course or something? You think you're better than us just because you've taken a few pointy-headed philosopy classes. BRAVO you've really put us all in out place. 

You're here watching these videos just like the rest of us so SHUT UP AND WATCH THE DAMN SHLOG!!!! THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU, NO MORE COMPLAINTS JUST WATCH IT AND SHUT UP, HE HAS RECEDED INTO MY BEARD WE CAN ALL WATCH THE MOVIE (wait... that seems familiar some how...)<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:40:02</i><br /><hr />weirdly Bones, you are reflecting previous comments that I have made. just in a little angrier tone.<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-07 23:43:01</i><br /><hr />Lovelygirl 24... I'm sorry for that rather antaganistic rant, it's just that a friend of mine has not been returning any of my calls and I fear that she is avoiding me, maybe because of my tendency to snap at people who don't deserve it (ex. you) not that I've snaped at her though. 

God friendship with the opposite sex is hard. Maybe I should go back to being a loner agian. 

Again, I'm very sorry Lovelygirl24. Please forgive me. We're all in this together.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:43:12</i><br /><hr />I bet if you could italicize the font you would huh...<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-07 23:44:04</i><br /><hr />its cool<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-07 23:44:40</i><br /><hr />Hey, by the way, I've noticed that there are rarely any photos on the profile pages. I really think we should all get them up there. Personally I went with the fantasy route with a Superman pic, but people should go with at least something.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:44:52</i><br /><hr />Thanks Lovelygirl24. You are truly enlightened.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:45:39</i><br /><hr />Love NAXAN's pic by the way. Is that the very lovely and talented Jessica Rose? Ees Neyes (think Borat talking) SEXY TIME!!!<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:47:22</i><br /><hr />no need to be snippy now Bones. anyway, hope the situation turns out ok<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-07 23:52:24</i><br /><hr />my first reaction is.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

and then. happy. because here's the interaction we love.

i'm just hoping an overwhelming majority of us distrust bluebea-i mean jonas as much as i do.<br /><i>by cookiecake on 2006-12-07 23:55:53</i><br /><hr />(To be read in a comiclly high tone of self-depricating disbelief) 

WHAT, snippy? Com'on Lovelygirl24, I did apologize.
Thanks for the thought about my situation though. 

I think I will describe the style of "talk" in all of my posts from now on, or at least the ones that may by mis-read.

PS Good for Holly, I hope she does suggest they go to Jonas because really, what other storylines are there?

Personally I though it was going to be Tachyon. Now that would have RULED.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:56:35</i><br /><hr />(To be read in a good natured, yet sarcastic "sly" style)

Wait, cookiecake what were you going to call Jonas?<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:58:22</i><br /><hr />(To be read with insight and slight self satisfaction)

This new way of describing how I actually talk in a text format is really making it easier for me.

I finally feel like I'm actually communicating witht he rest of you. 

this shlog rules.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-07 23:59:56</i><br /><hr />(To be read in a sarcasticlly Surfer/Frat-boy voice and mind set)

Dudes, if you go to the Wired article on-line and watch the "out-takes" video you can kind of make out Jessica Rose's nipples. Nipples dude. lol.

hehe, nipples.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 00:04:18</i><br /><hr />hahaha Bones that is pretty hilarious-people should speak like that in real life

like "you should interpret this next comment I am going to say as slightly sarcastic though not mocking"

or "this next comment I am going to say is very witty, be sure to catch all of the references I make in it"

or "well, I really didn't think about what I am about to say, sorry if I offend you"<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:09:10</i><br /><hr />Ok.  Not to pull away from all the codes and "Holly" Art Thou the chosen one (who's probably on the non-existant payroll), but I must point out something in the video that has pretty much gone unmentioned:  

HE WAS BEING WATCHED!!!!!  

Over his right shoulder (our left) was a guy peering out from behind the wall.  Meaning?  I dunno.  Important?  I dunno.  Worth bringing up?  ALWAYS!!!

As for the whole "To go or not to go" arguement:

YES!!  GO!!!  

Yes, we ALL KNOW Jonas is either a BAD guy, a Creepy yet Cute guy or just a WEIRD Goofball... BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE PLOT MOVING FORWARD, GO!!!

And as far as just "going home?" That just puts them right back into the thick of things.  The rooms are under servalience as we have learned from the "Home Alone" video. (and if you DONT know what I am speaking of, crawl out from UNDER your rock and check it out on YouTube submitted by Op Aphid who is a legit character so sayeth the creators!!!)

So I say GO!!  Let the plot thicken!! 

Better than running STAGNANT like it has been for the past SEVERAL vlogs!!!

Hell, if anything it will throw Bree and Beastie Boy closer together, solidify all that she has been ranting about and give us all something to glue our action hungry eyes to while we start to munch on our late night bag of double buttered microwave popcorn that we will then finish as we ponder it in heated discussion upon the boards below it.  Because although many of us have "better things to do" you have us captive and we would rather be here getting our daily dose of LG-Crack!!!!

*BIG deep breath*

*realizes she is now standing on top of her computer table in a war hungery stance, red in the face with strong conviction and is in serious need of a few more good deep breaths*

*finally deep breath*

Whew!  I feel much better now.  ;0)<br /><i>by kidlit on 2006-12-08 00:10:14</i><br /><hr />geez kidlit, where the hell did you come from?<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:12:10</i><br /><hr />Let me prove how lame this story is going to go MARK MARCUS' WORDS.  I went through the list of 230 people canceling out the dupes the vote is 46 to 22 AGAINST going to Jonas'.  

Now this means OBVIOUSLY she (the moderator) is going to say "it was a tough decsion but you SHOULD go to Jonas' house REGARDLESS of how we vote ...  why?? you ask because Jonas is now canon which means he is involved.  So no matter what they are going to go there.  This is sooooo unfortunate because for the most part people REALLY dont like Jonas except the 15y/o and 14y/o girls.  He is a dirty slimeball.<br /><i>by Marcus on 2006-12-08 00:12:10</i><br /><hr />FFFFIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!11111!!!!111!!!

That said,

guest's messages with subject titles like "Get this to Daniel" or "fwd: Daniel" started appearing one video before Daniel gives us a possibility to actually get messages to him. Weird or what?

I must admit I love that they make the decision about Jonas a poll. Many of us had the feeling that Bree and Daniel (and we) were "herded" towards Jonas, with the dumpster diving on the one hand and OpAphid's house-sitting on the other. Now the Creators give us the decision back. I guess, Bree and Daniel are still going to end up at Jonas's, though...

Oh, and yes, in real life you probably wouldn't do this. Though I must admit, I personally trust us more than I trust Gemma and Jonas...<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 00:13:36</i><br /><hr />I am not a 14 or 15 year old and they have to go

if they don't, the story will suck

SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:14:05</i><br /><hr />um dream, why do you trust us...seriously...<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:15:22</i><br /><hr />Been here since day 1.<br /><i>by kidlit on 2006-12-08 00:15:34</i><br /><hr />Hi Everyone!

I wrote to Holly and hope you all will also consider my
Top Ten Reasons NOT to trust Jonas:
10. He gives a tour of his house and only shows the hallway! (Duh!)
9. His name is Jonastko and those Order-ish videos say brought to you by TKO
8. He is too desperate to help B&amp;D - it is really suspicious!
7. What reason DO we have to trust him? (Answer: None)
6. His parents disappeared. (Like Bree's and the parents in the family Gemma talked about - so his could have been disappeared by the Order too! and now they are ransoming his parents for Bree!)
5. As another fan said: Don't ever trust someone who keeps asking you to trust them!
4. Charming young men like Jonas are always the type that turn out to be serial killers!
3. I don't think he's ever invited P. Monkey, Owen, and Thor - has he?
2. He wants to separate Bree and Daniel by putting them on different floors of his huge house.
And the number one reason NOT to trust Jonas is:
1. Who the hell is he anyway? He is a stranger!
Don't take candy from strangers!
DON"T TRUST JONAS!!!<br /><i>by bakedbree on 2006-12-08 00:16:38</i><br /><hr />i meant right there you just like came out of no where with like a giantness of a post

ease into it...you know...ease<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:17:41</i><br /><hr />(Sarcastic way of talking, but not in mocking tone)
Now Marcus, dirty slimeball is a rather harsh term don't you think? In today's PC world we would refer to Jonas as "Swarthy" or "Slightly Exotic" but equating him with slime? tsk tsk.

Lovelygirl24:
(to be read in a witty, relieved manner a la an exaspereated Monica from friends)
I KNOW! THANK YOU, you get it. This is so much easier except on my fingers.

Perhapse I should use this when talking to certain friends who don't seem to want to talk to me<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 00:18:23</i><br /><hr />your name is bakedbree-why should we trust you?<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:18:27</i><br /><hr />#242 You shouldn't! Exactly my point! But read the list and decide for yourself.<br /><i>by bakedbree on 2006-12-08 00:19:57</i><br /><hr />i just meant that your name implies a *high* state of mind if you know what I mean

and that list is kinda the rantings of one person trippin out<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:21:49</i><br /><hr />(To be read in an informative but not condesending manner)
Actually BakedBree (love the name by the way)most serial killers are rather strange, quite guys who blend in with a crowd. Charming people stand out.

Perhaps you mean "sociopathic" which does include, but is not limited to serial killers.

BECAUSE KNOWLEGE IS POWER!!!<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 00:22:57</i><br /><hr />haha lol lovelygirl24. Yes, I am tripping out on LG15 - but I am a good witch not a bad witch. Been here always, but I am shy.<br /><i>by bakedbree on 2006-12-08 00:23:45</i><br /><hr />psychology much?<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:25:17</i><br /><hr />(slightly but light heartedly confused by others ignorance)

No, no baked bree as in Brie cheese. Most people named Bree spell it Brea as in Breanna. Baked Brie is a french dish served as a party dish.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 00:25:43</i><br /><hr />(Read in a slightly self-disgusted manner)
Yeah... I was in the psychology program in school but I did not have the marks to maintain it. *Sigh*... oh well...<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 00:27:31</i><br /><hr />Ok so if he is a sociopath, do we want Bree and Daniel to go his house?  (Yes, bakedbree with almonds, yum!)<br /><i>by bakedbree on 2006-12-08 00:29:17</i><br /><hr />(annoyed at others narcissistic tendicies and actually contemplating that Freud might be right in his thoughts on the human Ego)

been to many a dinner party...know many different kinds of cheese<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:34:17</i><br /><hr />oh man I have to write a long paper tomorrow...today actually, and I am here discussing baked brie<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 00:36:58</i><br /><hr />But isn't all brie baked?  ;0/

Anyway....

Ya, in normal circumstances, it is best to ease into a conversation and then lay down the long  and deep pharagraphs stating your minds thoughts, but normally I am here long enough to view, scan the posts, add my own... time permitting... and go.  

While I would love to play every aspect of this out in full detail, my life prevents it.  So I watch the vlogs, crunch the codes as time permits and post when I can.  And sometimes that leads to apparent sudden outbursts of my person insight that can be taken in to consideration or brushed over by the masses.  

Sorry if it seems abrupt.

Only reason I get to stay and comment on your comment to my comment is that I have a little time to myself.  (a very rare and precious thing that I hope no to spend all of here... but probably will.)

Nite all.


Again, my vote is to go to Jonas's.  Although it sounds like the vote might not actually count.

Hey, kinda like my independant vote in the real world!!  I feel at home.<br /><i>by kidlit on 2006-12-08 00:43:29</i><br /><hr />Daniel you know that traveling to the home of Jonas and bringing Ø§ÙˆØ±ÙŠÙ… ÙˆØªÙ…ÙŠÙ… to the one known as ×©×ž×™×—×–×” would be a ghastly endeavor.

We know the location of ×©×ž×™×—×–×” he lives at 33.595925-117.587665 you must be careful in traveling to that location.   Jonas wants you there to be watched.  If you allow him to take you in and accept his help you have doomed our cause.  Aleister Crowley believed that we could help save people if we could get Ø§ÙˆØ±ÙŠÙ… ÙˆØªÙ…ÙŠÙ… to perform the Liturgy of Amon-Ra.

Heed this warning Jonas is not part of the Order he is a Grigori.  Why do you think Jonas has no parents?  Do you really think they just disappeared?

We and all Masons have taken up our cause to ensure the survival of the human race at all costs against man-made and supernatural plight.

If you do not trust us... fine.  Do not trust Jonas.  If you board with him you must never leave Ø§ÙˆØ±ÙŠÙ… ÙˆØªÙ…ÙŠÙ… side.  Your royal bloodline of Zephaniah helps protect her and even in the presence of a Grigori they cannot enchant her.   Your protection keeps the Ø§ÙˆØ±ÙŠÙ… ÙˆØªÙ…ÙŠÙ… safe.

The Assembly of the Sacred Wheel is working with the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and our groups to assist you in anyway we can but we cannot risk exposure.<br /><i>by Deacons on 2006-12-08 00:46:02</i><br /><hr />I sure wish more people would type in all-caps, use more exclamation points and use more profanity.  It's so much easier to understand what you're saying when you use these methods.<br /><i>by Paulo on 2006-12-08 00:52:01</i><br /><hr />Misspelling and bad grammar are always a plus too.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-08 01:12:05</i><br /><hr />what does the message of the Deacons mean?! 
I would not trust them, but something's wrong with jonas as well. nevertheless i would go to his house and watch him for a while before you show up...<br /><i>by annhestia on 2006-12-08 01:18:26</i><br /><hr />Ok, well it'd be kind of lame if they DIDN'T go. Go for the excitement! BTW, I thought that one creator said it WASN'T going to be like one of those "choose your own adventure" stories, and I dunno, asking one of the fans to choose what they are going to do next...basically is.<br /><i>by limboqueen117 on 2006-12-08 01:25:20</i><br /><hr />Okay Danielbeast. You asked for comments, so here's mine. You said, "Who's to say Jonas isn't in the order?" Well Gemma is trying despreately to get you to go back home. She seemed almost angry that the two of you hadn't headed her suggestion. WHO'S TO SAY GEMMA'S NOT IN THE ORDER? Who's to say she's not in on the whole thing, and trying to send you both somewhere, where they can get you too? Just a thought. Jonas didn't seem upset that you hadn't taken him up on the matter, just concerned for you too. Gemma on the other hand was mad that you weren't doing as SHE said. I don't know, maybe it's just me, bust it seems fishy.<br /><i>by sd_mcbride on 2006-12-08 01:46:40</i><br /><hr />Here is the newest reply I got from refusetobelievelies: 

Note: PES LAE 
PES LAE 
BFNDP ERNHM MIAEE. YENL 
GSIHT UTLUM EWLRE.
MRBNOYA YMUFMSR ASRRMCS.
TTKD HHIE EIAA YNMD.
MNTIU YDUNM MIRGBâ€¦ ISNN
ITFINRS. LTENMI OHEGYS SELIWT 
TEMIRTNTK. ONOMTTYH PIRPAHOI TSEONAUN
TINU HWOR EIRS OLAE NLRD. EHE SOC
PES LAE
BYID. EFE MRN
ILSUâ€¦ WTT IRY LUO
IULS FWTT YIRM OLUE. 

Solution:

please
please
be my frien(nan)d help me
guest will hurt me.
my arms burn from my scars.
they think I am dead.
my mind is turning numb
I lost the feeling in my wrists.
top ten is more important than you think
the ones I will honor are cursed.
please
be my friend
I will trust you.
if you will trust me.

Interpretations anyone?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 01:52:55</i><br /><hr />Seeing as my next vid is about to go up, I thought I would say the following:

FFFFFIIIIIIRRRRRRSSSSSSTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!

I also stand at attention and salute the General.<br /><i>by ApotheosisAZ on 2006-12-08 01:58:17</i><br /><hr />again, I still believe refusetobelievelies is myspace cassieiswatching trying to start all over again.  Especially the line that says, "they think I am dead"...this would relate to the fact that cassieiswatching died out for a while and is obviously trying to start again.  If you go to cassieiswatching myspace you will see the code there and in it many times you see lines such as "myspacelies", "youtubelies", etc.  Very similar to refusetobelievelies...

So, would someone figure out what all this means already!<br /><i>by beachlovr9 on 2006-12-08 02:32:26</i><br /><hr />I hate the forum! ARRGGGGHHHHHHHH!!<br /><i>by Lillygirl15 on 2006-12-08 02:35:15</i><br /><hr />wow.<br /><i>by luvmeifursmart on 2006-12-08 02:57:19</i><br /><hr />#262 beachlovr9 You're quite impatient, aren't you? *lol* 

I don't have a myspace account (yet, I guess) so right now I don't think I have access to all clues necessary to figure the code out. 

Has anyone figured out the second part of guest's last message?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 03:04:31</i><br /><hr />btw we could just ask refusetoblievelies if she is Cassie. Not sure we'll get an answer, but it's worth the try.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 03:09:47</i><br /><hr />Yay, how cool is this! I love this interaction stuff!

Please Please can we have a video in the next 6hours so i can have a chance of being near the top ten!!!! LOL!

Ok, will now read all comments!<br /><i>by dumbhippo on 2006-12-08 03:10:31</i><br /><hr />did any one else notice the car in the background?<br /><i>by KalaSA on 2006-12-08 03:34:43</i><br /><hr />Did anyone notice he was standing next to some kind of... building???? What does that MEAN???<br /><i>by Paulo on 2006-12-08 04:12:12</i><br /><hr />Did anyone read the Deacon's post?  

Any suggestions?<br /><i>by pink striped ivy on 2006-12-08 04:34:10</i><br /><hr />It's probably been said but he's remarkably well shaved for someone living in an abandoned warehouse with no money!<br /><i>by nobby1985 on 2006-12-08 05:10:31</i><br /><hr />Deacons posted at #254. I'm new to this so I don't know where to find a good online translator for what I think are ancient languages. On a Wikipedia search I found these:

"Daniel you know that traveling to the home of Jonas and bringing Ø§ÙˆØ±ÙŠÙ… ÙˆØªÙ…ÙŠÙ… (Urim and Thummim)to the one known as ×©×ž×™×—×–×” (Samyaza) would be a ghastly endeavor."

I gather Bree is the "Urim and Thummim", translated to a few meanings including "lights and perfections" and "revelations and truth". So somehow I suppose this means that the Deacons want Bree as she is some medium through which they can receive holy messages... or something...

From the entry on Samyaza I see, Samyaza is synonymous with 'Watchers', which are also fallen angels of the Christian tradition ranked as the 'Grigori', of which the Deacons say JONAS is part.

"If you do not trust usâ€¦ fine. Do not trust Jonas. If you board with him you must never leave Ø§ÙˆØ±ÙŠÙ… ÙˆØªÙ…ÙŠÙ… side. Your royal bloodline of Zephaniah helps protect her and even in the presence of a Grigori they cannot enchant her. Your protection keeps the Ø§ÙˆØ±ÙŠÙ… ÙˆØªÙ…ÙŠÙ… safe."

Somehow Daniel is descended from a line of Jewish prophets (One of which is Zephaniah), and I don't know how this protects Bree... but it somehow does. I don't have time to read into it further myself :(

I don't know if I deciphered this well, so here are the Wiki entries I found. Maybe someone else with more experience can figure it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urim_and_Thummim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samyaza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zephaniah


All this seems to say two obvious things:

1.JONAS IS PART OF THE WATCHERS, HE IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED.

2.DANIEL, DO NOT LEAVE BREE'S SIDE, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU BOTH END UP. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN PROTECT HER.<br /><i>by Amanda88 on 2006-12-08 05:11:53</i><br /><hr />So does that mean the "chosen person" is part of the show?  Or have we been deciding what happens next all along by our suggestions.  We're clearly split over the Jonas issue...so maybe that's why they're deciding a new way..?<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-08 05:30:42</i><br /><hr />OK They should go to Jonas' for sure.  
1. Staying on the streets is a definate known danger
2. Going home is a definate known danger. They have their homes under surveillance.  More than likely they have their friends under too.
3.  Bree will not go to the police or any authority figure.
4. Yes they could go to a youth hostel, YMCA, whatever.  But they would still have no money and no way to find out what happened to her parents.
5. Going to Jonas' they would.  And yes, even tho we dont know much about him he hasnt been caught in any lies or deceptions and therefore has not proven to be dangerous.

Also, Daniel still has long hair.  He had it cut short several nights ago at the awards ceremony.....does this mean this vid was made over a week ago????

Also...OMG!!!!!  I got an anagram too!!!  Someone please help me decipher it.

IAY ATEHAY HESETAY TUPIDSAY NAGRAMSAY
gosh! I wonder what it could mean!<br /><i>by mommy72900 on 2006-12-08 05:51:52</i><br /><hr />I hate these stupid anagrams? lol<br /><i>by Yannie on 2006-12-08 05:54:01</i><br /><hr />Am I the only person who feels that this Jonas story line is being crammed down our throats? It seems like the last few episodes have gone nowhere but are just trying to convince us that the only thing Bree and Daniel can do is go to stay with Jonas. The Creators can go where they want with their story... It's their show, but don't patronize us. We're not stupid. We know what you're doing. We're watching you.<br /><i>by wastinghope on 2006-12-08 05:55:36</i><br /><hr />I say go to Jonas and see whats going on, give the test and everything.  If it doesnt work, bail.  If he is part of the that whole mess then slap him around and then bail.  Throw away the stuffed animals because there has to be a tracking device in there.<br /><i>by brutalyoutspoken on 2006-12-08 05:56:08</i><br /><hr />What is the deal with all this top ten more important stuff?  Are the people who shout first (aside from the General of course) without watching the vid first just for the sake of being first more important than the rest of us who watch it and mull things over before posting?  so not fair.  or maybe it's the first ten vids they posted way back when everything was happy in the Breeniverse?  Maybe we missed something then.  I'm a bit confused about "top ten".

As for Jonas - meet somewhere neutral first!  He hasn't really given me any reason not to trust him, but please be safe.  Living on the streets is not safe, going home isn't safe, running to a stranger isn't safe.  Meet with him and get a feel for him first.  Daniel, then trust your gut.<br /><i>by kellyg on 2006-12-08 06:01:37</i><br /><hr />Here's an idea: get Jonas to drive them to police station after police station saying what's happening, then run away from the officers (just in case they're part of the order) and jump in the car so Jonas will speed away.  Then your parents have a fighting chance and you'll definately be okay.  Unless of course Jonas works with the order...but then the cops would see his car/license plate and come looking for you guys and save you anyway...plus it would be a good way to test Jonas and see if he's trustworthy and will do what you ask.<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-08 06:03:04</i><br /><hr />So is danie1beast really Danielbeast? I thought we previously yelled at the kid to stop impersonating LG15 characters 'cause he was just a regular guy.

Well, I hope they don't choose based on who posted first :( because I had a friend writing and directing a play in the City, and went to go see his show. Which leads me to say...

27333333333333333333333333333rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anyways, this feels like a Choose You Own Adventure Book, only we can't flip back to the previous page if we pick wrong!!! :0<br /><i>by physphile on 2006-12-08 06:03:19</i><br /><hr />So, are the message from the Deacons real? or is it just someone messing around?<br /><i>by deirdre on 2006-12-08 06:03:50</i><br /><hr />#279 physphile danie1beast is not danielbeast!<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 06:10:11</i><br /><hr />No offense to Holly but I wonder why Daniel picked her.

I am surprised Nikki Bower didn't get picked.  She found the location of the ceremony and the mall in which Bree had her date with P. Monkey.  More people know who Nikki is.  She is a journalist and would have the investigative know how to determine Jonas' reliability.  Nikki has put the effort into five videos.

Or Lizard.  I always enjoyed your insightful comments.  Everyone knows Lizard is a law student.  There again is someone with the research skills and sharp intellect to be able to come to a logical conclusion.

No offense Holly.  I am sure you were chosen for a good reason but I am not even familiar with who you are and I have been watching for three months now.<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-08 06:22:56</i><br /><hr />Heh the Deacons, maybe you should research it more... Jonas said he lives in the middle of nowhere?

http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;hl=en&amp;tab=wl&amp;q=

Trust me as someone who lives in the middle of nowhere, this is a populated area.

 *winks n hugs*

Forever n Always<br /><i>by CountryBunny on 2006-12-08 06:46:19</i><br /><hr />You know this situation with Jonas reminds me of the story of the Scorpion and the frog. 

The Scorpion needed to cross the pond but could not swim so he asks from to carry him accross on his back. The frog says "If I let you up on my back you will sting me and I will die." the scorpion responds "But if I sting you then we shall both die since I cannot swim."

The frog sees great reasoning in this and agrees to take the Scorpion accross the pond. Halfway accross the Scorpion stings the frog and the frog, dying, says "why scorpion? why!?!" and the scorpion responds "Because it's my nature." And they both drown.

I Still do not think that they should go to Jonas' house. They need to stay becoming aggressive. They need to confront the order. They need to start preying on their predators. For only when one because a predator do they stop becoming prey.<br /><i>by Psychostephy on 2006-12-08 06:56:07</i><br /><hr />Don't do it, it's a trap. Run!! Run to the otherside of the world. Maybe become gypsies.<br /><i>by guyworking26 on 2006-12-08 07:02:21</i><br /><hr />I think they chose Holly because she is a very active forum poster. Someone who knows how to set up a poll and stuff like that. The poll is definitely a more orderly (and somewhat more comfy) way of fan interaction than the crowded chat was...<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 07:02:22</i><br /><hr />Maybe I am misunderstanding the Deacons post, but I thought they didn't want Bree with Daniel and they thought Daniel was stopping their efforts with bree??? If I understand that post correctly, they want Daniel to protect her? Interesting really, seems they have contradicted herself. Also it is interesting that the Deacons have finally decided to post again.<br /><i>by Lynn on 2006-12-08 07:12:20</i><br /><hr />Here's the problem I have with this whole storyline at this point...the producers of this series are asserting that this is an "interactive" story.  However, they operate under the guise of interactivity, not GENUINE interactivity.  Yeah, sure, "pick" a person in the forum, have live chats...clearly there is no true interactivity in these activities.  This Holly character is clearly their creation too...it DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY IN GIVING HER YOUR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS - they will take the story down the path they want citing it being the "viewers' collective will"...when in fact, it's not.  It is evident that they don't listen to the viewers because this story is BORING at this point.  Furthermore, let's say we "buy into" this idea that Daniel wants someone in the forum to make this decision...let's suspend disbelief and say that's realistic and that this is a real situation...now, let's say that Holly tells them "ok, you can trust Jonas"...and then, something bad happens to them there...now this supposed viewer has it on her shoulders for the rest of her life that she facilitated that?  Come on...BELIEVEABLE characters wouldn't do something so illogical...Daniel trusts random internet users  now??? WHY???  What reason would he have to even do that?  It's just not plausible within this story's "universe" - this is a deus ex machina (look it up if you don't know what that is) if I ever saw one.  Magically, this viewer Holly will decide for them?   Uh huh...sure.  That's convenient...golly, wonder what she'll say...let me guess...duh, isn't it obvious she will tell them to go there?<br /><i>by skepticwoman on 2006-12-08 07:27:11</i><br /><hr />ok here i do well what do you know about this guy? and bree if this is the guy that you think is going to save you and be your prince charming you need to look to the one person who has been there the hole time. but what do i know i have a worm bed and a hot meal. hey daniel i would have left her a long time ago so your better then me if she wants to go to this guy let her and you can go home and get your job back and your life back and let her and this guy anc do what they need to do to get bree out of this mess she is in and when she comes looking for you it would be a " i told you so" bree stop being so stupid. so yea go to this guy if he is the real thing give bree to him daniel and be done with her.<br /><i>by mandybar on 2006-12-08 07:33:19</i><br /><hr />i think that if you go to jonas' you can put his life on danger.but you shouldn't go  bree's home because the sect might be there.what you should do is work or ask jonas' some money and go to a relative's house or try searching bree's parents.but i think that it is safer to go to a home than living on the streets because there you are more vulnerable.and please try to seek bree's parents or report they are missing.good luck,<br /><i>by gb3 on 2006-12-08 07:40:02</i><br /><hr />DON'T TRUST JONAS!

i don't like him :-\<br /><i>by thenamesmeghan on 2006-12-08 07:58:29</i><br /><hr />They HAVE to go to Jonas's. Otherwise this story stays BOOOOOR-ING!!!!!!!!! 
  How much more of this can we take? I totally vote Jonas's. They will survive either way -- or else the series ends. Let's just get it over with. 
  Also, I agree they have to call Daniel's parents and ask for money and tell them what is going on -- if they can reach them! (At least if they try and D's parents also are missing Bree and Daniel get to find that out and that adds to the plot twists/action as well.) And/or they also should contact Daniel's friends. Daniel is saying no one can be trusted but us -- but he had friends before he got deep in with Bree. He certainly can turn to them!! 
  AND they should just go to the police. ALL of the police cannot be in the Order. I mean really, what is the point here. Get back to work creators, get this story moving. 
  There has to be a balance between audience interaction (big whoop a "new art form") and a story we can actually stand to stay with and follow. As you say yourselves (creators), your resources are thin enough that you are having trouble producing videos any faster than this. So stop stalling on the plot line in addition!
  PLUS -- it is not true that in real time more could not be happening. A million more things could have happened in real time. What are they doing all day????? Sitting in that warehouse? I don't think so. Let's have some MOVEMENT! ACTION! The story at this point is totally lame!<br /><i>by anna on 2006-12-08 08:31:40</i><br /><hr />My official position. Everyone knows that the ceremony is on 12/10/2006. If you can't hold out a few more days, see if you can get Jonas to float you cash for just three days at a cheep hotel. After that, you guys can all do lunch or something.

Jonas is probably ok, but he does have a biblical name so he may be in the Order. If he is Order Why risk going to him and getting an obsidian knife stuck in your chest. If he is not why risk getting him into trouble. 

PS. Sorry about your job at Gas &amp; Eats. If you would like I think I could get you a job as a tech at Zippo-Fast Oil Change Center<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-08 08:36:17</i><br /><hr />Defenitly go to Jonas!!!!!!!!

Gemma does not seem like she can be trusted,and why are you going to listen to someone on another continent anyway.

The solution is to go to Jonas but we carefull as you do. Watch your back and remain skeptical at all times.

Test it out,at least you will have a roof over your heads and real food.

Jonas doesnt seem that bad and maybe once you arrive he will give you some crucial piece of information that you desperatly need.

I think everything will fall into place.
Go to Jonas
Gemme will get upset and reveal her true colors!
I am sure.<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 08:38:02</i><br /><hr />Anna, The creators have a specific day they want things to happen on. It was hinted at quite some time ago. As to all of the Police being members of the Order, the full name of the Order is,"The Order Of The Donut."<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-08 08:42:20</i><br /><hr />you dont know realy any thing about him dont trust him that quikly i bet we all could help you 2 out with a few $ that would add up...<br /><i>by fishingchap on 2006-12-08 08:50:39</i><br /><hr />don't trust jonas! he's up to something.
bree wants to trust him simply because he's a pretty boy. all women get weak kneed when it comes to pretty boys.
go there will be your ruin. he will drive a wedge between you two. he will isolate bree and drive you off. then she will be at his mercy.<br /><i>by Lureman on 2006-12-08 08:51:24</i><br /><hr />I think you should trust what NikkiBowerReport befor u trust Jonas!!!<br /><i>by fishingchap on 2006-12-08 08:54:37</i><br /><hr />Well it seems like there's always some watcher guy in the background these days--- so what might happen?  Jonas might be just a regular guy trying to help, but if they don't realize the tracking device is in Bree's animals then they'll end up seeing a watcher at Jonas' house and think he was in on it the whole time...<br /><i>by jeweliet01 on 2006-12-08 09:06:49</i><br /><hr />Yes trust Jonas, because I believe that his parents were taken by the Order because they would not raise Jonas in the Order. So they faked the boating accident and kidnapped Jonas's parents.<br /><i>by wintermonae01 on 2006-12-08 09:11:13</i><br /><hr />Heya everyone!

Lizard - I hope you got everything done last night, good karma and sunshine sent your way!

Joe - hope you're feeling better.. am hoping you actually got some sleep last night!

The realLily- I'm with you 100%! They definitely need to go to Jonas'.. and watch their backs. I vote Daniel and Bree sleep in the same room tho... to make sure no one gets nabbed in the middle of the night...<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-08 09:26:45</i><br /><hr />You guys make some REALLY good points about all this...<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-08 09:41:46</i><br /><hr />I think you shouldn trust him because in the middle of nowhere.. This guy "Jonas" appear..
I know you need home and everything but.. In this situation.. Like gemma said "you should trust only yourself".. dont trust every people that goes to you and say.. "you need home?".. 

Thats what i think..! 
Good Luck..! You'll need it<br /><i>by djlady on 2006-12-08 09:56:24</i><br /><hr />#303--GGIH, please, please, don't send them to Jonas's house. The reasons listed all make perfect sense. Bakedbree put it perfectly.<br /><i>by vanjula on 2006-12-08 10:00:24</i><br /><hr />What kind of test would be needed to verify he can be trusted?

any ideas, anyone?<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-08 10:03:57</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy7, how about trial by fire?<br /><i>by vanjula on 2006-12-08 10:08:23</i><br /><hr />And, um.... How do we know that GGIHolly isn't part of the order? (disbelief unsuspended--yes I'm aware she's probably an actress).... Thoughts?<br /><i>by vanjula on 2006-12-08 10:11:54</i><br /><hr />1st - they need to call Bree's house - just to check. Please will they call!!??

2nd - how is Jonas any more trustworthy than me? Lol! If he had a big family, or a small house, or no money or whatever... would opinions change?

3rd - why would Jonas want to help so badly anyway? Give his money away to total strangers? How does he know THEY are trustworthy? I know he could just have a really big heart - but in real life you'd expect someone to be a little more cautious surely? Especially if you knew they were being followed by wierd cult types!!

Anyhoo - there's my pennies worth... I think if they involve Jonas, it should be at arms length - don't go to his house (not at first at least). Jonas needs to be sure of them first too. 

But they are going to have to face the idea of going/or at least contacting home at some point. Why not now? They surely can't hide forever??!!<br /><i>by dumbhippo on 2006-12-08 10:18:30</i><br /><hr />Here's my take on the Jonas issue... from a different angle. 

Think about if this were real, and there were two teenagers whose lives were potentially in danger. How many people here would genuinely open their homes, travel, loan money, or offer other kind gestures just to help someone in need? I'm betting a majority of people. We would also be offended and frustrated if it were assumed we couldn't be trusted - when really we're trying to be kind - and we were at a loss to figure out how to prove that, when we extend an offer of a hot meal to some struggling kids, we're not poisoning their orange slurpees. 

That said, I vote that they do what most kids in a tough situation would do - accept the offer of kindness, if for no other reason than to get a shower and hot meal (although one of the anagrams said "never turn your back, do not bite first") before the house is blown up or Jonas attacks them with a chainsaw and hockey mask (personally, I'm hoping for some variation of the "Jonas is evil" angle). At the least, it will get some action going.<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 10:43:57</i><br /><hr />GO TO JONAS GO TO JONAS GO TO JONAS GO TO JONAS!<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 10:44:07</i><br /><hr />Vanjla #308

Oh my gosh, you're right!   What if EVERYONE on here except me is part of the Order?  Bree, Daniel, I'M the only one you can trust!  And I say come live with me.  I'm surrounded by Amish, they're very peaceful and un-killing-like.<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-08 10:48:41</i><br /><hr />Perky - I agree with you on that one; I know that personally, at several points during my life I've had someone stay over who was going thru a rough patch, I'm sure most people have.

vanjula - if you check the forums, you'll see that Holly is a regular poster there.

Lureman - lol, sorry to disappoint, but 'all women' DON'T get weakened by pretty boys!

Personally.. I'm betting it's the hot shower and warm bed that are getting to Bree more than anything else.<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-08 10:53:00</i><br /><hr />#284 CountryBunny-
 Well, at least B&amp;D will have a golf and racquet club nearby to go relax at if they go to Jonas<br /><i>by heather on 2006-12-08 10:55:24</i><br /><hr />Ok...can't believe I am getting into this...

What about the post from the Deacons (#254)
Are they helpful?  kindof scary... is it a joke?<br /><i>by cdewsie on 2006-12-08 10:55:40</i><br /><hr />#312 yeah you're probably right i know I'm part of the Order you can see me in some of the videos i hanging in the background.  Just hangin, chillin mindin my own business not trying to hurt anyone.
HEHE just kiddin anyways this isn't like when Neo had to choose the red pill or blue pill.<br /><i>by MagicianX on 2006-12-08 11:02:06</i><br /><hr />If my opinion matters for anything...I say Don't Go!  You should never just go and stay at somebody's house.  He obviously has other things in mind.  I mean seriously...Bree and Daniel is you guys want to wind up drugged and video-taped masturbating turkeys, then by all means go and stay with him.

Besides, he is probably lying about all the money and living with his parents.  He probably just wants to get a chance to hook up with Bree.  A better plot device would be to have Daniel go stay with Jonas...then have Daniel disappear and Jonas take over as the leading man with a cloudy background.  Sorta of 6th-season-X-File-ish.<br /><i>by cbarton on 2006-12-08 11:15:12</i><br /><hr />I dont follow the decoding process but I was in the top 10 and got the following message from refusetobelievelies. I just wanted to let you guys who are trying to figure this out have the information. 
good luck!


FEOO RNRE? IDF
JSLEE OCDIR. NOBT AUEH
AMVUPN SE,ECEC FINHRE. OHOEI RASXE
TUHEY HGITA RHSRLâ€¦ OTBA
HMTILSB UOHCDCE. RRAODR TENUEI
IMOT NYDH EBBE ELRR. DOO<br /><i>by itselisabeth on 2006-12-08 11:24:19</i><br /><hr />This is something I've been wondering from the beginning: How do you know that no one from the order watches your videos? I mean you're afraid of going home, but you post these videos and tell everyone what you are doing. How do you know that I, for example, am not from the order?<br /><i>by Linguist on 2006-12-08 11:26:33</i><br /><hr />Deacons makes the mistake of thinking that 'grigori' are bad guys...and human.
They are neither...though they are fairly close to human.
The grigori are angels.
There is no grigori named 'Samyaza'...unless he's new, but that isn'
t possible. Interestingly enough, there is a grigori named Daniel, but then there's lots of things named Daniel.
I do like Deacons post, but I wish they'd do some more homework. They should also keep in mind that Bree and Daniel are actually running from the Deacons. The Watchers work for the order.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-08 11:27:00</i><br /><hr />Not sure if anyone's posted pictures of this or how much it's been discussed, but I'm concerned about something I saw in the background of Daniel's video.

 I think they're being followed again. It looks like someone may have been spying on Daniel while he made the video. If so, and if it was The Order, they now know about "Jonas." 

 At first I didn't think it looked like a person, but then I noticed that at times it was there, at times it wasn't, and then I noticed you can actually *watch* it peek out and duck back down again, when Daniel says Jonas' name in the sentence, "Jonas, it's hard for me to admit this, but..."

 Here are the screen caps: http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=someonespyingty4.jpg<br /><i>by Jackie on 2006-12-08 11:33:59</i><br /><hr />#318
FEOO RNRE? IDF
JSLEE OCDIR. NOBT AUEH
AMVUPN SE,ECEC FINHRE. OHOEI RASXE
TUHEY HGITA RHSRLâ€¦ OTBA
HMTILSB UOHCDCE. RRAODR TENUEI
IMOT NYDH EBBE ELRR. DOO

FRIEND OR FOE?
JONAS COULD BE EITHER
AS FOR ME, I HAVE NO SUCH EXPERIENCE
THROUGH THIS BETRAYAL
HURT MORE THAN I COULD DESCRIBE
I NEED MY BLOOD BROTHER<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 11:40:21</i><br /><hr />so the deacons are the watchers?  Maybe they are they are trying to keep B&amp;D safe then...?  Maybe there are two parts to these people.  The "bad guys and the deacons?  But maybe the Deacons don't want B&amp;D to go to Jonas' house and this post is supposed to dissuade them...because Jonas will help and make it harder for the Deacons to fulfill whatever they need Bree for?<br /><i>by cdewsie on 2006-12-08 11:42:14</i><br /><hr />Daniel, u should go to Jonas' house, he might have an extra toothbrush u can use!!<br /><i>by populargirl51 on 2006-12-08 11:45:56</i><br /><hr />And why if Daniel is supposed to be Bree's protector...Lucy didn't like him...it really seems like there are two factions.  it also doesn't seem like B&amp;D have taken enough precautions to not be caught by whoever...If they want them they would already have them.  So someone else has to be "protecting" them maybe.  Unless who ever wants them doesn't have to have them yet...OR can't get to bree as long as this protector Daniel is with her.<br /><i>by cdewsie on 2006-12-08 11:46:54</i><br /><hr />I got one too:

From:  	refusetobelievelies
To: 	jackie
Subject: 	NILAR ONSTS... TGET HEME
Date sent: 	2006-12-08 10:22:10
Date read: 	2006-12-08 11:35:53
 		 
Note: 	FEOO RNRE? IDF
JSLEE OCDIR. NOBT AUEH
AMVUPN SE,ECEC FINHRE. OHOEI RASXE
TUHEY HGITA RHSRLâ€¦ OTBA
HMTILSB UOHCDCE. RRAODR TENUEI
IMOT NYDH EBBE ELRR. DOO

I only got as far as:

 Subject: Nothing else matters

 Friend or foe
---

 I was already smacking my head against the wall here.<br /><i>by Jackie on 2006-12-08 11:54:13</i><br /><hr />does Daniel have siblings?<br /><i>by cdewsie on 2006-12-08 11:56:51</i><br /><hr />Hej Jackie, 
good observation, I definatly agree with you that it looks like someone watching him!

Other than that, in my opinion the creators try to hard to involve us. I liked it better when they just randomly picked up some suggestions from what we wrote here without directly talking to us. Go back to the old way!<br /><i>by gillar on 2006-12-08 12:01:28</i><br /><hr />Looks like I'm part of the anagram thing now.  Not time to read posts.  Computers are spewing fire from every orifice.

From: refusetobelievelies 
To: joe 
Subject: NILAR ONSTS... TGET HEME 
Date sent: 2006-12-08 10:22:19 
Date read: 2006-12-08 12:02:31 
     
Note: FEOO RNRE? IDF 
JSLEE OCDIR. NOBT AUEH 
AMVUPN SE,ECEC FINHRE. OHOEI RASXE 
TUHEY HGITA RHSRLâ€¦ OTBA 
HMTILSB UOHCDCE. RRAODR TENUEI 
IMOT NYDH EBBE ELRR. DOO<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-08 12:06:19</i><br /><hr />Oh my gosh, who will it be???  

<br /><i>by changingwaters on 2006-12-08 12:10:01</i><br /><hr />so far I have
Friend of foe?
Jonas could be either.
As for me I have no such experience<br /><i>by shannon615 on 2006-12-08 12:13:20</i><br /><hr />Read Perky's post at #322 for the solution to the anagram we've received :)<br /><i>by Jackie on 2006-12-08 12:19:56</i><br /><hr />Jonas has been incredibly honest so far, and although he does seem shady, I think Bree and Daniel are out of options.  Secondly, I think it'd provide a great opportunity for Bree and Daniel to research the Order in Jonas' big library.<br /><i>by changingwaters on 2006-12-08 12:22:34</i><br /><hr />Yep, I think they could find clues and answers there -- ESPECIALLY if Jonas is a badguy.

 I think it's a win/win, personally.<br /><i>by Jackie on 2006-12-08 12:26:26</i><br /><hr />You're right Jackie, it is win/win

by the way, has anyone figured out who the hell refusetobelivelies is yet. this is driving me insane. I really don't see the need for anagrams. A riddle will suffice.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 12:35:40</i><br /><hr />Go.

To.

Jonas.

Period.

Go.

To.

Jonas.<br /><i>by Maniacsflower on 2006-12-08 12:43:43</i><br /><hr />Hey Maniacsflower, 

What

Is with

This 

style

of Writing. It only takes up space. We get it, you want to give us all the full impact of what you think but no one post is more important then any other.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 12:46:49</i><br /><hr />ey did you all see this yet?...

You even get to hear how Jessica Rose actually talks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfdNVbN4GC4&amp;eurl=

(if its in the forum already, please show me where)<br /><i>by 707clique on 2006-12-08 12:49:46</i><br /><hr />Alright, is Refusetobelievlies Cassie or not, cause if it's not, I'm gonna put who ever this is down like a Boy in a Dress. You feel me refusetobelieve. You are creeper than than a backrub from grandma.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 12:50:21</i><br /><hr />Ummm, take a look at this: it's taken from footage that Jonas edited out of his Thanksgiving video.

http://static.flickr.com/144/317283846_d6c7bb11e7_o.jpg

What further proof do we need? Jonas is evil!<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-12-08 12:50:36</i><br /><hr />Yes 707clique, she speaks in a New Zelander accent. It's very similar to an Australian one but if you lisen carfully there are difference. Personally I like it. sounds forign and sophisticated, but not stuck up like some british accents do.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 12:54:20</i><br /><hr />A decision! Yay!<br /><i>by Autumn on 2006-12-08 12:54:53</i><br /><hr />Sharpl that's a little propaganday don't you think? If they don't go to Jonas' where are they going to go, back home? that's suicide. If only Gemma could give us more info on the Order, then we could make a decision. From the "Deacons" posts they would seem to be good guys but you never can tell.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 12:57:10</i><br /><hr />DEADLINE IS 6PM!! Make sure to send me your opinions on this before its too late! We have to make the right choice for the sake of Bree and Daniel!<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-08 12:58:08</i><br /><hr />I am extremely late, as I have not had internet access for 3 days lol.

I'm  back, though. And I'm caught up now.

Lol this was an interesting video. :) I love Daniel, or Yousef the actor, I think he's pretty good.


I think this is the Creator's way to sort of make up for the disaster that was "THE CHATROOM". :P

This way, they're letting US make the decisions/choices. Very interesting, and actually, is a GREAT marketing idea. This is the kind of stuff that will bring IMMENSE popularity to LG15.

So, guys &amp; girls, what are we choosing?
Trust or do not trust Jonas???<br /><i>by Jonneh on 2006-12-08 13:01:42</i><br /><hr />Actually, I think Katelyn (#44) had a great idea when she said:

         "I sayâ€¦Meet Jonas somewhere other than his house first! Then MAAYBE go back to stay at his house. He hasnâ€™t really given us a total reason to trust him. Go with your gut feeling after you meet him! He needs to earn a relationship not â€œpayâ€ for it by givin his house and money ectâ€¦ GOOD LUCK!!"


I think that's a good idea as well.<br /><i>by Jonneh on 2006-12-08 13:05:14</i><br /><hr />OMG!!!! I've just discovered someting that may have significance. Check out the symbol on the ground in the "Warwalking" video and then check out http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Image:ICEnochian.gif
from the "itscassie" page on LGpedia. There is a symbol in her glyph lines that looks very similar. I wonder....<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 13:05:59</i><br /><hr />Oh, and by the way, has anyone checked out the picture of Jackie Jandrell on her Myspace page? Damn it look at those eyes. (to be read in a dreamy sort of way) I could just get lost in those for hours - if it wern'r creepy to do so.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 13:10:42</i><br /><hr />This is what I think Daniel and Bree and Jonas should do. Since Daniel and Bree are in dire straits and Jonas obviously trusts them and wants to help, I think that they should visit Jonas at a spontaneously determined time, with the understanding that the camera will be running the whole time. Then, since Daniel and Bree trust us, we should wait for the upload of that vid. There could be a secret word in it that maybe only Holly would know to confirm its legit. Based on what is seen in that Daniel and Bree created video, Daniel and Bree or the fans can determine whether Jonas is trustworthy. 

The other option is that Jonas could provide Bree and Daniel with cash they could use to run should they feel uncomfortable staying with him at any time. I mean, he's not just offering his house, he is also offering his money. 

Hope this suggestion isn't too late and good luck to you Bree and Daniel.<br /><i>by witch_ie on 2006-12-08 13:12:25</i><br /><hr />MAOE EGBS: SEO STN
IRIOR GEFTY NMIHO OEBEU.
LCSTORE IHFRNSN KIRAYIT ELUTOSE ADSIUVD.
WYAO IOLW LUMN? LCD
OODMHO? RUHOA DNERN OELEI YEPTD
ITEGSOER... FHSETUM SESTSRP O,MAEYTE
ISTMM WUAAE OGNNN UGGAT... LEEG DSRE
OPDTNI RSERTT PANEFY. ERTAA REITC HSAMI AILEL<br /><i>by SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL on 2006-12-08 13:16:32</i><br /><hr />OOOOOHHHHHH MAAANNNNN. I just saw one of those videos on YouTube that started popping up when the Shlog was exposed as fictional and this one by Shadowbot9 suggests that Jessica Rose is a lesbian. Would that not be the most awsome thing ever. A hot lesbian. Cool! personally I have come across few lesbians, and certainly no hot ones. 

Express your love Jessica! Don't let anyone tell you it's wrong, as long as you post pics and vids of it.

To all of the female fans who have just read that. I'm sorry if you are offended, and that you now think I'm a pig but you have to understand that guys like hot lesbians because there is no dude to make it all gross. Maximum hotness in a sexual situation.

To all the homophobes out there who are offended: Don't be so FRAKING CLOSED MINDED. Happiness is happiness.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 13:18:22</i><br /><hr />If Sydney ever tried to disclaim the Orange slurpee cult it would be like Jesus trying to disclaim Christianity.  Pehaps it time to bring in the de-programmers.  Oh wait, they are also part of the cult.  I say, open the Gates and lets get this party started!!!  Think about it folks.  Ritual Orange slupees made from the blood of the chosen one: Bree........yummmy.  Think about that while you are getting hammered at Tom Greens Ms Rose:)<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 13:19:30</i><br /><hr />Refuse To Believe is Wierd....even his name comes up in code (his or her) Is it Cassie?
WHO ARE YOU?<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 13:19:51</i><br /><hr />#347 That is a 'warchalk' symbol for an open connection: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warchalking
Though it does look similar...<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-08 13:22:43</i><br /><hr />Oh, well that shut me up like broken jaw didn't it. Well then disregard my initial enthusiasm. But the lesbian thing, that would be cool huh?<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 13:27:26</i><br /><hr />#350

SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL (send note) Says: 
December 8th, 2006 at 1:16 pm 
MAOE EGBS: SEO STN
IRIOR GEFTY NMIHO OEBEU.
LCSTORE IHFRNSN KIRAYIT ELUTOSE ADSIUVD.
WYAO IOLW LUMN? LCD
OODMHO? RUHOA DNERN OELEI YEPTD
ITEGSOERâ€¦ FHSETUM SESTSRP O,MAEYTE
ISTMM WUAAE OGNNN UGGATâ€¦ LEEG DSRE
OPDTNI RSERTT PANEFY. ERTAA REITC HSAMI AILEL


Bones the message is for you, I don't have time to sort it out now... but head's up<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 13:29:13</i><br /><hr />#320 Moondoogle you said:

"Deacons makes the mistake of thinking that â€˜grigoriâ€™ are bad guysâ€¦and human.
They are neitherâ€¦though they are fairly close to human.
The grigori are angels.
There is no grigori named â€˜Samyazaâ€™â€¦unless heâ€™s new, but that isnâ€™
t possible. Interestingly enough, there is a grigori named Daniel, but then thereâ€™s lots of things named Daniel.
I do like Deacons post, but I wish theyâ€™d do some more homework. They should also keep in mind that Bree and Daniel are actually running from the Deacons. The Watchers work for the order." 

On the contrary, THERE WAS FALLEN ANGEL NAMED Semyaza.  It is an alternate spelling to Semjaza. HE WAS THE LEADER OF THE GRIGORI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samyaza

You should do your homework before discounting someone.<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-08 13:29:32</i><br /><hr />men and lesbians lol....it's like chocolate for women<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-08 13:32:26</i><br /><hr />Bones #343: Agree that they shouldn't go back home... but what, is Jonas the only person in the Breeniverse that has a spare bedroom? Bree doesn't want to be found by the Order; going to Jonas makes it easier for the Order to find her, PLUS we get all his possible issues. EXCITING, maybe, but is it the best thing for Bree? I say, pass on his offer, take the next one.<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-12-08 13:33:44</i><br /><hr />#357, I stand corrected.
The grigori names that I am familiar with (and I've been doing my homework for over twenty years thank you very much) are 'Shemjaza', Arakiba, Ramiel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramial, Asael, Armaros, Batanel, Ananel, Zaquiel, Daniel, Ezequeel, Bartiqijael, Samsapiel, Turiel, Jomjael and Sariel.
 after my last post regarding this, I did come to realize that Shemjaza and Samyaza are variations of the same name.
However..Jonas is no Shemjaza.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-08 13:44:24</i><br /><hr />Incidentally...try not to put too much faith in wikipedia. They aren't always reliable.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-08 13:45:03</i><br /><hr />Real Men Of Genius - Effing Exellent!!! What a way to start out my day. Started out giggling and ended up with a deep belly laugh! Thanks!!

Quick Study in Laungage - I wonder if the creators are behind Miss Kelly. They are really good. They have that oh so familiar generic grade school science book look to them but underlined with eerie questions and answers.

Is This A Watcher - At first I thought it might be Nessy, but now I'm for sure its Big Foot.<br /><i>by voyboy on 2006-12-08 13:45:30</i><br /><hr />I dont trust Jonas but I'm so glad this plot is getting moving.<br /><i>by jennamarie xo on 2006-12-08 13:46:10</i><br /><hr />bored...<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 13:52:00</i><br /><hr />The first Line to the anagram says:

MESSAGE FOR: BONES<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 13:54:42</i><br /><hr />I find it funny that this video is titled the test...how in any way are they truly testing Jonas...polling viewers is in no way testing Jonas...

But popularity contests of characters are always fun...go Jonas<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 13:54:46</i><br /><hr />Perky, I don't get it. What's for me and why 
heads up?" Are you the one sending these things. if not, why don't you have time to go into it?

I'm so confused...<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 13:55:54</i><br /><hr />Wait, what? MESSAGE FOR: BONES? Oh crap I must have pissed them off. I'M NO GOOD AT ANAGRAMS. PLEASE HELM ME, SOMEONE!!!!!!<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 13:57:35</i><br /><hr />I like how Daniel acknowledges the fans here. I say go with Jonas. I don't really care for him, but I know his name and his face. That is all I need with my "death note". lol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note<br /><i>by The Great Silence on 2006-12-08 13:58:58</i><br /><hr />Is there some kind of decoder ring I could get to help me with this. Oh frak, this is weired than a purple midget on a unicyle.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:02:18</i><br /><hr />Well, if I didn't suffer from ADD I would probably figure the anagram poem out, but since that is virtually a medical impossiblitiy, can anyone help. Perky, TherealLilly, Jackie, Moondoggle, Lovelygirl24? Anyone please<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:06:10</i><br /><hr />#371 *lol* what did you do, bones? ;) 


message to bones:
ignore me if i bother you.
like a childs frustation yours is vented.
will you calm down?
or do you need help more than I do?
if so, the message tests your temper...
i would suggest  anger management...
or perhaps a residantial treatment facility.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 14:10:39</i><br /><hr />Bones.  You got a message?

What is it.  I can help.  And who is it from?<br /><i>by pink striped ivy on 2006-12-08 14:10:58</i><br /><hr />Residential treatment facility ^_^ That made me laugh out loud, seriously.

 Oh Bones, I think Cassie's got a crush.

 If that is Cassie.<br /><i>by Jackie on 2006-12-08 14:12:16</i><br /><hr />Bah.  I was too late.  Good going though Dream.

What I dont understand is how the person who posted that has a differant name (aka a name we ALLL know) when you look at their profile.<br /><i>by pink striped ivy on 2006-12-08 14:14:09</i><br /><hr />Haha thanks Dream, I just got Bones' message cracked as well. 

So the question is... is it a riddle (was Cassie committed somewhere or something?) or just a jackass messing with the Lonelycracks?<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 14:14:25</i><br /><hr />well that's a new tone to the anagrams we've been getting 
(yes, I know this one is from a different sender)<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-08 14:15:04</i><br /><hr />#194 - Moondoogle:

I totally agree!  If Jonas has all this space, then one of the spare bedrooms must be pretty big.  I'm sure the two guys could move an extra bed in so Bree and Daniel could share the room.  I don't think they should go to Jonas' unless he agrees to let them share a room...  not for any funny business, just for safety.

Btw - I am so tired of signing in, posting a comment, and then being told "you must be signed in to post a comment"... it happens every time, and then I have to mess around and refresh a few times to get it to work... definite site problem; anyone else experiencing this??<br /><i>by hawtstuff on 2006-12-08 14:17:28</i><br /><hr />#375 pink stripled ivy: Oh I just realized that it's not to a different profile, it's refusetobelievelies' first name on the profile.<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-08 14:18:13</i><br /><hr />#377 CranberryApple actually the sender is refusetobelievelies. Everyone has a user name which is unchangeable and a nick name that can be different from the user-name. This is why we didn't find refusetobelievelies in the registered users as first. Her user name is SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL and her nick name RefusEtoBeliEveLies.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 14:19:08</i><br /><hr />Message For Bones:
Be Here Info Rig Me To You

This is all I can come up with for the first 2 lines and I dont think its right def. the first line is right but I am working on it<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 14:19:15</i><br /><hr />Too late with my explanation...<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 14:19:59</i><br /><hr />(to be read in a self reflective tone while still realizing the hilarity of the situation)

Okay so maybe I sent her too many frustrated letters. I just don't see the point of anagrams. I do feel kind of special since she took the time to post this. 

Perky does raise an excellent point thought, is it a real clue or has the person on the other end just gotten annoyed enough with me to break the patter, cause I gotta tell you, I tend to have that effect on people. 

Well anyway I won't bother Cassie anymore, and we all know it's cassie.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:20:04</i><br /><hr />hawtstuff, Make sure cookies are turned on.<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-08 14:20:19</i><br /><hr />ohh wow I was totally wrong: whopps I guess I can quit my job at the crime lab anagram dept. now!

This is the MESSAGE:

message to bones:
ignore me if i bother you.
like a childs frustation yours is vented.
will you calm down?
or do you need help more than I do?
if so, the message tests your temperâ€¦
i would suggest anger managementâ€¦
or perhaps a residantial treatment facility.<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 14:21:01</i><br /><hr />Bones this is hilarious CASSIE IS WATCHING YOU!!!<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 14:22:55</i><br /><hr />Haha, I always seem to post something and then realize I'm wrong a few minutes after! :P
Thanks though, Dream!<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-08 14:23:12</i><br /><hr />It's okay TherealLilly, Dream already figured it out for me at #372, but thanks for the effort.

Thank you Dream for decoding it for me, I really couldn't have done it myself. You are truly the king (or queen as the case may be) of anagrams.

By the way, is your name a reference to the Sandman because that would be totally cool.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:23:24</i><br /><hr />I dont think that changing a nick name should be an option.  We would have seen her as a registered user long ago if it wasnt.<br /><i>by pink striped ivy on 2006-12-08 14:23:47</i><br /><hr />Yes, yes it is hilarious. BEHOLD, FOR I HAVE INCURRED THE WRATH OF CASSIE THE MYSTERIOUS, AS NON HAVE BEFORE ME!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Actually this is a little freaky.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:25:22</i><br /><hr />pink striped Ivy and Bones:

She did change her nickname somehow and in code!

Wierdness..watch your back Bones<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 14:27:16</i><br /><hr />Speaking of freaky Refusetobelievelies, has anyone figured out her "first name" or her discription? Now that she has put me in my place like a crying child at the mall, I'm kinda curious.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:27:40</i><br /><hr />To TherealLilly
Yeah, you ain't kidding. I'll watch my back like a porn star giving it doggie style<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:29:17</i><br /><hr />Bones, I think you seriously annoyed Cassie... But then, in her last reply to me she told me "the ones I will honor are cursed" so maybe you're the lucky one here... ;)

btw it would be queen of anagrams if it was true. But actually I think there is a king of anagrams which would be gemmas flatmate's genius boyfriend who figured out the cipher...

As for the reference to the Sandman... No, it isn't but it's a cool idea! I think I'll just include it into the list... :D<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 14:32:40</i><br /><hr />#392 bones

SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL 

Someone please help me.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 14:35:07</i><br /><hr />This event should really go on the Refusetobelievelies page on the LGpeida, if not for clues and reference reasons then atleas for posterity, for when I'm stuck in a crappy deadend lower middle-managment job, this will be the kind of thing that will stop me from ending it all<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:35:50</i><br /><hr />Thanks Dream, I just read about how the cipher works on LGpedia, but I still can't figure out the discription part of her profile.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:37:24</i><br /><hr />Btw, i don't think about killing myself as #396 may have indicated. Just in case any of you were even remotly concerned. Anyone? no? I thought not. Oh well.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:40:55</i><br /><hr />The description says...

a different pain seeps through my skin
there is no escape now
neither pretty words nor praises
the time of murder has come<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-08 14:41:25</i><br /><hr />#397 &amp; 399 Seems she changed her description. Until yesterday I think it was... 

I am a liar.
do not believe my words.
I cant be trusted.
but I know.
bree and cassies secret.
figure it out.
please.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 14:44:14</i><br /><hr />Wow... uh that is really scarry. I mean REALLY SCARY. That's worse than sitting in a semetary at 3 in the morning on the anniversery of your mean old grandmother's death. 

Damnit that freaks me out.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:45:15</i><br /><hr />Oh, and bones, I'll put in on the LGpedia... Just to be sure. Wouldn't want you hurting yourself...<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 14:45:33</i><br /><hr />She is so mysterious, but that does confirm that it is cassie we are talking about. I wonder if it ties in with "itscassie" vidies.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:47:03</i><br /><hr />Thanks Dream, I appreciate it. You are one of the coolest people around. WHOO HOO.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:48:02</i><br /><hr />#400 Oh yeah, I do remember that old description... actually that's why I deciphered the first line and then did a quick search on a few previous pages for it (obviously coming up with nothing) before I bothered figuring out the rest of it, haha.<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-08 14:48:22</i><br /><hr />Wierdness...its all wierdness<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 14:50:13</i><br /><hr />(to be sung)
My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine to five and then,
He takes the train home again
To find me... watching lonelygirl15 the greatest shlog in all the land!
WHOO HOO

I thought that might make a good theme song. Thoughts? Feelings?<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:54:20</i><br /><hr />I wouldn't trust Jonas.  Even if he's not in the order.  Why did he  reach out to you anyway?

It just seems rather sketchy.<br /><i>by Stern Maedchen on 2006-12-08 14:54:28</i><br /><hr />This is weirdness...what I find really weird though is that the Refusetobelievelies BS is taking us all away from, both our real lives AND what Holly should tell Bree and Daniel to do.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 14:56:15</i><br /><hr />HAHAA I'm on LGpedia in the Refusetobelievelies page. That is so totally awsome. Thanks for all your guys' help and especially to Dream. You rule.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 15:01:17</i><br /><hr />So, if Amy Aitken knows GoodGollyItsHolly, does that mean they all went to film school in NYC with Jess?<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 15:07:22</i><br /><hr />Who's Amy Aitken and why does she know GoodGollyItsHolly?<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 15:09:19</i><br /><hr />I have read that some believe Holly to be a plant by the order, or that it is unwise to trust a randomly selected person in making a decision, but in such a dire situation the only person you can trust is someone who is unconnected witht the event thereby weeding out bias.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 15:12:54</i><br /><hr />woah so who did daniel pickk??<br /><i>by xx_luvly on 2006-12-08 15:13:14</i><br /><hr />#410 Bones *blushes* Stop it already, all those compliments make me nervous. :D
But, while you're at it, check out the LonelyCrack page in the LGpedia and tell me all the things I forgot to mention! Tell me via the page's talk section though, I promised Treefunk not to talk so much about the LGpedia here. So, sorry everybody who accidentally read the post! ;)<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 15:13:26</i><br /><hr />I think I know what I'm going to do now.. Its the best option i think.. I cant say what it is because it would be too dangerous for everyone involved.. I will let you know later on..<br /><i>by GoodGollyItsHolly on 2006-12-08 15:14:20</i><br /><hr />BNS: OE
SKHHBDH... PIALAEE ENRYLMA AGSSLYT
FVIKHN ONSEAE RETYPS GSHTPS: ISEOI
ODHO RIEL WTKI OBEF UEYE? LTT
WTYM OUOU UPUC LSTH... DEO ITO
ITENF FEAD,O IDFNE? WTRO AOIT NBEA<br /><i>by SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL on 2006-12-08 15:18:16</i><br /><hr />#416 Holly You know how to build up tension, don't you?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 15:19:35</i><br /><hr />I think the point is that we DON'T trust Jonas...but I want the plot to move forward, and this really seems like the only way. 

I agree with the "ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT FOREST FIRES" people. This vid was weird. I hope things start getting more interesting, and fast. Lonelycrack was much more addictive when we all thought Daniel was going to eat Bree in the ceremony.<br /><i>by LemonOfPink on 2006-12-08 15:20:27</i><br /><hr />Hi!!!! well I got this from refusetobelievelies:
FEOO RNRE? IDF
JSLEE OCDIR. NOBT AUEH
AMVUPN SE,ECEC FINHRE. OHOEI RASXE
TUHEY HGITA RHSRLâ€¦ OTBA
HMTILSB UOHCDCE. RRAODR TENUEI
IMOT NYDH EBBE ELRR. DOO

is there a forum on this already??<br /><i>by Nat on 2006-12-08 15:20:36</i><br /><hr />Holly, Thanks for your effort on this :)<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-08 15:21:08</i><br /><hr />#417 translation (first line is off but I don't think I fumbled, I double-checked)

bones:

speaking harshly sballde my heat
forgivness is the key to happiness.
or would it be the key to life?
would it upset you too much...
if I wanted to be a friend, not a foe?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 15:29:12</i><br /><hr />#420 Nat: This anagram was solved in comment #322. I'll put it on the refusetobelievelies LGpedia page as soon as I find the time...<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 15:31:18</i><br /><hr />Oh ok. THanks. sorry for the repost!!!<br /><i>by Nat on 2006-12-08 15:34:41</i><br /><hr />Woah There BONES!! Cassie seems to want to be your friend!!! Maybe she has a crush on you!<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 15:35:15</i><br /><hr />I'm soooooooo late on these things. :P<br /><i>by Nat on 2006-12-08 15:36:34</i><br /><hr />I'm Back...sorry if I kept any of you anxiously waiting<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 15:36:35</i><br /><hr />#426 Nat I've been on this from the first attempt to solve the anagrams and even I am confused, so no need to worry.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 15:40:29</i><br /><hr />Must be because Bones's pic is a superhero  :-)<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 15:41:05</i><br /><hr />(with not so much disbelief as disappointment)

Bones, weren't you ragging on people last night about anagrams and now you are asking people for help with them...

come on now...

don't give in so easily to peer pressure...<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 15:41:58</i><br /><hr />lovelygirl24,

Which way did you vote ?<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-08 15:43:13</i><br /><hr />I HAVE TRIED TO MESSAGE GoodGollyItsHolly
BUT IT ISN'T WORKING, SO I AM JUST POSTING MY EMAIL HERE...AND HOPING THAT SHE IS READING IT!

If she doesn't, oh well.

---------------------------------------

To trust or not to trust? [Jonas]

I know most ppl think Jonas is just a pretty face to lure in Bree...and it's pretty obvious that that is very possible.  I wouldn't put it past the Order.

But...what are Bree and Daniel planning on doing if they don't go to Jonas's?  Being homeless for the rest of their lives....?  That's not too smart if you ask my opinion.  And where would the plot go from there?  Adventures in garbage plunging, dumpster diving...?  I'm sorry, but I'm not going to obsess over the adventures of homeless people like I am obsessing now over a teenage girl running from the Order.  And I'm sure many people feel the same.  If they stay homeless, it is very likely that I, and many others like me, will lose interest in the series.  For a story to be interesting, characters must make a decision to change their current position...usually a stupid decision.  So, I think Bree and Daniel should take the risk, do the semi-stupid thing, and go to Jonas's.  If nothing else, just for plot development.<br /><i>by *just me* on 2006-12-08 15:43:52</i><br /><hr />Jonas

Jonas all the way

Jonas jonas JONAS jonas jonas sanojjonas

they can't keep eating trash<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 15:45:08</i><br /><hr />#308 Elphielives--
I don't think everyone is actually part of The Order, but would they actually pick a random fan? I realize (#312) that she's on the forums, but just cuz she's on the forums doesn't mean she's not active behind the scenes with The Creators, orchestrating all of it. What if they've got the plot ready without our input?
Anyway. I just want a new and more interesting video. With plot, and suspense, and all that jazz.<br /><i>by vanjula on 2006-12-08 15:45:28</i><br /><hr />117 yes  to 58 no...its not even close!!  Evil wins out every time.  Time to start up the chain saw Jonas!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 15:45:57</i><br /><hr />Everytime I com by here, I look at my message count, hopeful that I'm one of the lucky recipients of a message from refusestobelievelies.  Alas, my message count remains at 0.  :(<br /><i>by ssddkk on 2006-12-08 15:46:49</i><br /><hr />yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 15:47:07</i><br /><hr />sorry about that last comment

just a little glad that the plot may get going<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 15:49:15</i><br /><hr />modelmotion,

Behind door number three, we have a special surprise for Bree &amp; Daniel !<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-08 15:50:04</i><br /><hr />vlog 93 'The test'

vlog 94 'The Feast'<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-08 15:51:19</i><br /><hr />Amy Aitken is Jessicas friend from film school in NYC. 

http://www.myspace.com/amy_aitken  

A girl who looks like Amy  appears in the pix of Holly in the forum.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 15:51:50</i><br /><hr />#436 ssddkk Wait for the next video, make it into the top ten. That's a pretty sure way to get the messages as far as we know. Can be pretty tiresome though, especially if you live on the wrong continent (trust me, I know). Well, it's weekend now, a lot of time to spend on the lonelycrack addiction...<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 15:52:25</i><br /><hr />ssddkk,

Bad news is, your not in the top ten to post to a video.

Good news is, you will not be one of those beheaded...<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-08 15:53:18</i><br /><hr />lets be extremely naive here...maybe J-boy is not evil. Maybe he just likes to give his money away. Maybe he is a do gooder (I wonder if that should be hyphenated?. Maybe J is just all around an great guy whose parents were also involved the order and they did not get lost at sea but were taken trying to protect Jonas. Maybe J is trying to reach out to B&amp;D  so much because he knows all about the order because he, like Bree, suffered the horrific consequences of what the order can do to someone.

Or he is the head of the order and wants to capture and kill them with Gemma at his side. crazy...<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 15:58:01</i><br /><hr />Well, for some reason I couldn't get my internet connection working for a while so I solved the puzzle that Refusetobelievelies (aka Cassie) left for me in the mean time and here is what i got. ALL BY MY SELF, can you believe it?

BONES:
SPEAKING HARSHLYS BALLDE MY HEAT...
FORGIVNESS IS THE KEY TO HAPPINESS:
OR WOULD IT BE THE KEY TO LIFE?
WOULD IT UPSET OU TOO MUCH...
IF I WANTED TO BE A FRIEND NOT A FOE?

I'm not quite sure what the first line means but, sure Cassie you can be my friend. 

ATTENTION: CASSIE AND I (BONES) ARE NOW BEST FRIENDS FOREVER. THAT IS ALL.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 16:02:58</i><br /><hr />Congrats Bones, haha.<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 16:05:33</i><br /><hr />While I may have been ragging on people who ask for help on the anagrams last night, I have come to change this beliefe. You are all rather intelligent and good at it so I see no reason to not utilized one another's help. After all, the three most important words in existence are "Let Me Help". You can check the Star Trek original series episode "City on the Edge of Forever" if you don't believe me.

I would also like to clairify something. That is not a picture of a superhero on my page, that is what I honest to God look like, complete with red eyes, and the superman costume I wear everyday.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 16:09:05</i><br /><hr />Continuing be extremely naive, what if jonas IS Cassie/Tachyon's brother. If you rearrange Tachyon

you get 'on yachT'...that's crazy....<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-08 16:09:56</i><br /><hr />Dream, 

Re: #400... yesterday (in the "bad decision" video comments) we did a lot of sorting the cassieiswatching myspace page, and someone suggested bree had multiple personalities or something (and we thought there might be a connection between lies and jewelry)... do you think someone hit on the "secret" and that's why the description was changed?<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 16:10:34</i><br /><hr />Perky me and u were talkin about that weren't we??<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-08 16:13:40</i><br /><hr />oh geez a trekkie...


NAXAN...wow that last one was a total stretch but I dig that thinking style. 

If the plot writers would only run with this type of writing style wow the plot would take off...<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 16:15:19</i><br /><hr />33.595925-117.587665 - Coto de Caza*<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 16:16:42</i><br /><hr />They should incorporate amnesia into the plot somehow<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 16:16:59</i><br /><hr />WOOT!!<br /><i>by sonya_w on 2006-12-08 16:17:15</i><br /><hr />Alright I'm a bit confused. Speaking harshly sballde my heat... Is sballed just a typo or what? As in speaking harshly (has) balled my heat. I get what she means, something along the lines of now that I've vented I feel better but still why sballde?<br /><i>by serbchic16 on 2006-12-08 16:17:26</i><br /><hr />yes adritha... I can't help but think this is all somehow connected, and for the life of me I'm missing something...<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 16:17:36</i><br /><hr />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coto_de_Caza,_California<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 16:19:03</i><br /><hr />seriously...Bree could hit on the head at Jonas's house with one of his trophies, amnesia results

Come on writers, hear my plea...<br /><i>by lovelygirl24 on 2006-12-08 16:21:10</i><br /><hr />Coto de Caza looks like a good place to burry the bodies<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 16:21:22</i><br /><hr />i know how you feel perky...their definatly is something missing.  their's a loop somewhere and im really hopin i don't have to go back threw and watch the videos again.  man that took forever!!<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-08 16:22:10</i><br /><hr />has anyone seen this???


http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?page_id=113&amp;member=99<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-08 16:23:51</i><br /><hr />http://www.sacredwheel.org/<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 16:25:52</i><br /><hr />she isn't wiccan<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-08 16:28:44</i><br /><hr />haaaa haa Hilarious Bones and Cassie BBF's Forever!<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 16:30:18</i><br /><hr />i hear ya adritha... this addiction couldn't have come at a worse time... I have term papers and finals to worry about, and instead I find myself hitting the refresh button every few minutes... and hoping for the next clue that puts it all together...<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 16:31:03</i><br /><hr />i know i know...i had to pry myself away from my house to be able to go christmas shopping and i came to my grandparents and here i am...sitting here and they want to go and im to freaking addicted.  I WANT AN ANSWER!!!<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-08 16:34:04</i><br /><hr />"Coto de Caza" means "game preserve" in Portuguese and Spanish.
anyone else find that ironic?<br /><i>by serbchic16 on 2006-12-08 16:34:10</i><br /><hr />Interesting.
I don't know.
I think they should go to Jonas' because it would devolp their fun little plot some more, but yet it would be fun to see if they would go to the police or what.<br /><i>by violetvelvet on 2006-12-08 16:34:43</i><br /><hr />alright guys....injoy the revealing of the decsicion holly makes!! i get to miss it due to my dumbself.  but its cool i'll just disguss it later with ya'll  bbbyyyeee *waves*<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-08 16:36:52</i><br /><hr />modelmotion,

OR a good place for a creepy ceremony.<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-08 16:39:58</i><br /><hr />or jonas's house in the middle of nowhere<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 16:42:59</i><br /><hr />But it's not in the middle of nowhere, there is a map somewhere around here...
It's very close to Beverly Hills though, i Know that. 

And I am not a trekkie. The episode is a very good one and it makes a good point.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 16:46:16</i><br /><hr />If Jonas's house is in the middle of nowhere then daniel and bree should meet him at a neutral location within the city (I'm guessing its LA) with alot of people. He could put them up in a motel, or give them money or something. They don't need to go stay with him, although I hope they do. It would be so exciting.

I think we are all losing sight of the difference between what's good for the charaters and what's good for the story. The story should come first I think.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 16:50:15</i><br /><hr />Nikki B!!!!!!!!!!!

http://lonelygirl15.modelmotion.one.revver.com/watch/115322<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 16:52:32</i><br /><hr />**************************************************************************************************
             IF YOU HAVE TO ASK 
              YOU DONT TRUST HIM
             GO TO HIS HOUSE
              WHEN YOU GET THERE
             TIE HIM UP (TEST)
              COMPLETELY SEARCH THE HOUSE
             FOR ANYTHING THAT COULD TIE 
              HIM TO THE ORDER
             THAT IS THE ONLY YOU WILL
              BEGIN TO TRUST HIM

**************************************************************************************************<br /><i>by wildbore on 2006-12-08 17:02:56</i><br /><hr />Mary said, â€œLizard!!! best of luck, but donâ€™t worry, seriously, youâ€™re gonna knock them all out of the ball park, or whatever. you know what youâ€™re doing. you â€œgetâ€ law- that there is no â€œrightâ€ or â€œwrongâ€ answer just better or worse argumentsâ€¦ uhâ€¦ iâ€™m really tired so this pep-speech isnâ€™t very peppyâ€¦ but make sure to get at least 5 hours of sleep. good luckâ€

Thanks, Mary! I finished it today a half hour before I needed to turn it in and ran across the street, diving in the door a la Indiana Jones to turn it in. Which was a little ridiculous, cause there were still 20 minutes leftâ€¦ :) Ah, sleep deprivation and panicâ€¦ What an interesting combination.

Gnome said, â€œOr Lizard. I always enjoyed your insightful comments. Everyone knows Lizard is a law student. There again is someone with the research skills and sharp intellect to be able to come to a logical conclusion.â€

Aww, thanks. I appreciate that. Maybe they figured my finals were keeping me busyâ€¦ although Iâ€™m telling you, anything to take my mind off of joint and several liability for a second while Iâ€™m on a break would be welcome!

jc_gypsy said, â€œLizard - I hope you got everything done last night, good karma and sunshine sent your way!â€

Thanks, jc! :) I finished it, and turning it in was one of the happiest moments of my life. :P

Joe, take some Airborne. Anything that can keep a school teacher from getting sick is pretty much has to be the anti-germ equivalent of a nuclear bomb.

Someone commented that it's weird Daniel should trust us (internet people) and not Jonas (internet person). I'm not sure if someone already answered that because I am behind on my comments reading, but I think we're kind of been there for them all along and they kind of "know" us, whereas Jonas is completely new. People here have given tips and information to help Bree. Jonas just showed us his doors and did a few handstands.

Still, it is a little weird. But I've done weirder. I went and mingled with fellow Ringer geeks I met off the internet at the MTV Movie Awards to support the first movie... I didn't know those people and I could've gotten chopped up into little pieces and stuffed into an abandoned refrigerator, but you know, I really felt like I knew them. 

It's STILL not really a good idea to trust people on the internet. 

*eyes narrow* Who are you all working for? I smell orange slushee... Oh, wait, that's mine. 

Uh, I mean...<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-08 17:09:18</i><br /><hr />#476 &amp; Lizard are sooo dead on<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-08 17:12:04</i><br /><hr />Hmm, the site wouldn't load for almost an hour! Anyone else experiencing such trouble?

#449 Perky, I wish I had any idea. I really don't like the "murder" part of the new description. 

Maybe we could have an "interpretation brainstorming" in the LG-chat later on. Cause we're good at solving the anagrams but we've not made too much progress on what they mean (top ten? murder?). I'd like to wait until pink is online again though. She's good with new ideas.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 17:22:07</i><br /><hr />Bones, 
I think the resident Rebel may have missed an â€˜hâ€™ in the first line of the anagram. â€˜Speaking harshly s ballde my heatâ€™ doesnâ€™t make much sense, as you can see. If she had put an extra â€˜hâ€™ in the first set of letters, the line would have read â€˜Speaking harshly shall be my death.â€™ Just thought Iâ€™d get myself out there. Hope I help. 
Cheers, 
Tegz<br /><i>by I Love Billy on 2006-12-08 17:25:53</i><br /><hr />Lizard, only one to go !!!!<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-08 17:27:34</i><br /><hr />#479 I Love Billy, good work! Now it makes sense!<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 17:28:49</i><br /><hr />FIRSSSTTTT ZOMGZZZ Y DOZ ITE MATR?!!!<br /><i>by michelle on 2006-12-08 17:31:59</i><br /><hr />x]. Ouch! Dream, you might hrut her feelngs. lol<br /><i>by I Love Billy on 2006-12-08 17:32:01</i><br /><hr />#479, thanks dude, I appreciate the insite, although the death thing is a littl creepy. Still, Cassie and I are now bestest ever friends and that is not important to me.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 17:32:09</i><br /><hr />Come on hurry up and upload another video<br /><i>by Harleygirl24 on 2006-12-08 17:33:30</i><br /><hr />Question: if you send REBEL a message in the same style of anagram, do you get a message back? I tried doing this when I apologized to her but I'm no longer certain if it will work, or if she will think I'm just patronizing her.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-08 17:34:17</i><br /><hr />No problem, bra. Just thought youd like to know is all. x]<br /><i>by I Love Billy on 2006-12-08 17:35:41</i><br /><hr />Ok, so I'm too lazy to read all the messages, so if this has been said, my apologies.

Whether Jonas is working for the Order or not, going to his house would make Bree and Daniel proactive.  Either he's a good guy, and they can quit worrying about survival to start hunting down answers, or he's with the Order and going to his house puts them in a position to be confrontational.

I voted send them to Jonas.<br /><i>by SaraMel15 on 2006-12-08 17:44:15</i><br /><hr />Here's an idea for Holly:

I mentioned this to Bree at the chat: meet him in a public place.  Ask him detailed questions about his past - the exact date his parents disappeared, where Jonas is from etc.  Go to a library and see if that corroborates the story.  Maybe Bree and Daniel should have a go-between like Nikki Bower.  She can meet with Jonas, gather the info and do the research (which she is great at and seems to enjoy doing!).  Ask Jonas for some references.  Find out where Jonas went to high school (if he wasn't homeschooled like Bree) and maybe ask his teachers what he was like.  Call the police station and find out if there is more to Jonas' parents' disappearance then he lets on.  You could use Nikki Bower or any other fan that makes videos and lives in that area to check it out.<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-08 17:45:55</i><br /><hr />Ummmm..........anyone else's page missing Gemma's last video on the left???<br /><i>by ssddkk on 2006-12-08 17:48:45</i><br /><hr />Bones,
ARE you patronizing her? Personlay, from whatI've seen/heard she has a little chrush on you ;)<br /><i>by I Love Billy on 2006-12-08 17:49:22</i><br /><hr />#486 Bones, yes, it does work. pink and I did exactly that and we get messages back. And seeing through how much trouble REBEL went to become your friend I'm quite sure she's going to answer!<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 17:50:11</i><br /><hr />489 gnome
uhm, you do know this isnt real right????<br /><i>by mommy72900 on 2006-12-08 18:10:25</i><br /><hr />Got a new reply from REBEL. Here is the translation: 

They think I'm dead.
The time has come for another's murder. 
You are my friend
I could not lie to you.
Top ten serve as the entrance to the real world
it is through them I communicate.
Why, I cannot tell you
under pain of death.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 18:16:13</i><br /><hr />yes mommy72900 I know its not real.

Do YOU realize this is part-ARG and from time to time to develop the story we talk 'in character'.

The whole theme of ARG's is TiNaG.  You pretend its real.  Like the online chat with 'Bree'.<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-08 18:18:49</i><br /><hr />i just got this message from 'refusetobelievelies'

Subject: NILAR ONSTS... TGET HEME

Message:
FEOO RNRE? IDF 
JSLEE OCDIR. NOBT AUEH 
AMVUPN SE,ECEC FINHRE. OHOEI RASXE 
TUHEY HGITA RHSRLâ€¦ OTBA 
HMTILSB UOHCDCE. RRAODR TENUEI 
IMOT NYDH EBBE ELRR. DOO 


anyone know what this means??<br /><i>by Liz on 2006-12-08 18:21:24</i><br /><hr />489 gnome, that's a good plan.  It's better than any idea that I've had.  Nikki Bower would be a great go-between/investigator since a lot of us are familiar with her videos.  Daniel has a little experience in sleuthing, as well.<br /><i>by elliemae on 2006-12-08 18:36:56</i><br /><hr />So Holly made a decision but doesn't want to tell us.  

Hey Holly,

I'm thinking of a number between 7 and 11.  You want to know what it is, don't you?  Well I'm not going to tell you.  HA!  Take that.

Okay, true story.

Someone at work said she uses a cough syrup that is guaranteed to work every time and it lasts for up to 12 hours.  So she bought it for me and brought it in today.  It's called Delsym, it comes in an orange box, and it has pictures of oranges on it.  Instead of saying thank you the very first words out of my mouth were "Are you working for the cult".  She looked at me like I was crazy.  I'm actually afraid to try it.

Its official, I've lost it.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-08 19:06:56</i><br /><hr />DON'T trust him. you don't even know him. he's a complete stranger!! if you're not even going to trust the police why are you going to trust some weird biblical guy...sounds like a crazy freak to me. just be smart follow your instincts and don't do anything P Monkey wouldn't do..even if he does want to go. JUST DON'T.<br /><i>by TheNew1994 on 2006-12-08 19:07:57</i><br /><hr />Serious adivce for you two!  I can understand your situation and how to trust just anyone can be a big problem and in this case... your very lives.

So, I say this.....  Find out where he lives. Then Dan you take bree with you and when you get close to where he lives....  let bree stay behind and hide out near by and you check out the place. Monitor the place for two days and see what comes in and out and WHO. Video it and then show it to bree and see if she knows anyone.  Also when this guy is way from home... see if you can get inside just to check things out. He said he is out in the middle fo nowhere... so he might not lock doors.

If u can't get in at least try to see thru windows. Also, to make things happen a little faster.. tell him you and bree will show up oina  certain date and time... show up a day before your due  and monitor.  This way if anyone is after you... someone is bound to show their face before thinking you;ll show up and set the events into place.  This way you will know about it and know to LEAVE and don't look back.

For now just play along.

This is my best advice.

Good Luck,

Kimberly<br /><i>by Knorkooli on 2006-12-08 19:08:28</i><br /><hr />What if everyone says they don't trust Jonas... Then what, we never hear from him again?

That would frustrate the heck out of even those who didn't trust him and I just can't see that happening.

They'll met Jonas.<br /><i>by Paulo on 2006-12-08 19:13:45</i><br /><hr />Real men of genius.  HA!HA!HA!

Um, how did you know I take my laptop with me when nature calls?<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-08 19:24:25</i><br /><hr />#496 Liz, see post #322. 

Since there is still no new video and it is 3:20 am already, I'm calling it a night. 

See you tomorrow! (Isn't addiction a wonderfully predictable habit?)<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 19:25:17</i><br /><hr />Dream,

Come on you can stay awake for another 10 minutes.  Just wake up 10 minutes later.  It all evens itself out.<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-08 19:29:30</i><br /><hr />Ok who is the Cal Phillips sp? that Nikki Bower was talking about.  The Deacons would like to speak to them.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 19:30:47</i><br /><hr />#502 Joe,

You left the ball cam shutter open.

I meant to include the names Owned, modelmotion, and Paulo in that vid as well. To anyone else I neglected to mention, I salute you.<br /><i>by ApotheosisAZ on 2006-12-08 19:37:52</i><br /><hr />#504 Joe, I've been telling myself the very same thing for the last hour or so. I really hoped to be here for the new vid. But unfortunately I promised a friend to go over to her place for breakfast, so by now the 10 minutes theory doesn't hold anymore... 03:37 am. *sigh*<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 19:39:41</i><br /><hr />03:41am... oh yes, addiction is a very predictable habit indeed... ;) 

The new vid could always show up just 2 minutes later...

Ok, I'm really off now.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-08 19:42:57</i><br /><hr />wow... ya'll talk too much... takes me longer to read through this stuff... and of course, I can't miss anything... but now I need to go bed... ya'll do a fffffffiiiiiiirrrrrrrrssssssttttt" for me in the top 10 of the next video for me... I'll be looking for my anagram... 

$5 to the one who does it for me... hehehe (try to collect that one)... 

Hope ya'll are doing well, and it's nice to know that like 4 people mentioned on here going to Jonas' because it was the right thing to do... and about 8-10 to say that they should go just to move the plot along... 

And 100's said no... and yet... we have a vote?  And what's the outcome?  Strange.

We were set up... so everyone just get out your hangman's noose and get ready for the cliff dive...<br /><i>by mikel888 on 2006-12-08 19:42:59</i><br /><hr />#496 - Liz, take the first letter of each word in a line, then the second letter, etc. 

NILAR ONSTSâ€¦ TGET HEME  becomes

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS...<br /><i>by SharpI on 2006-12-08 19:52:43</i><br /><hr />OK I am so bored and am going into withdrawal.  No one has sent me an anagram ***feels left out*** so I thought I would make my own just for fun.  Feel free to try and unscramble it if you are sitting here bored and refreshing every few minutes like I am!  LOL.  I am pathetic.  Ahhh Lonelycrack. : )

WADOENWEDIENEWNOEV!!!<br /><i>by mommy72900 on 2006-12-08 19:52:46</i><br /><hr />Even if he turns out to be part of the order, I think Daniel could take him before it got too bad<br /><i>by nancypants on 2006-12-08 19:54:56</i><br /><hr />I wonder if the Creators are out of ideas and they came up with this plan for 'a test' to stall.  The story lately seems to be going nowhere.<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-08 20:02:33</i><br /><hr />Well I hope Holly decides something fast.  We need a new video - even a Gemma one.

Fellow Lonelycrackheads!  Start your chanting!

VIDEO!  VIDEO!  VIDEO!  VIDEO!  VIDEO!  VIDEO!<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-08 20:05:46</i><br /><hr />This isn't a test...it's avoiding true storyline interaction.  A test of character is when you give someone a task that is challenging to them and outside their established comfort zone...and they must complete it to your unspoken requirements.  No gauntlet has been thrown down, no gloves have been wisked off and slapped again a rivals cheek...this is empty filler.  It's getting old fast.  The "creators" need to step up to the plate and take some of the wah-wah-why me out of the videos and go back to the sly hints and clues they used to feed the viewers.  Does no one care about story development anymore?  And all stories have to have endings...or else they just turn into boring and meaningless drivel.  We need a new character that is a complete mystery to the point that they didn't make Jonas to bring in intrigue and generally make this viral series interesting again.<br /><i>by dizziva on 2006-12-08 20:06:05</i><br /><hr />modelmotion said in post 441 that this girl amy aitken was in school with jessica.  And on her myspace page she looks like the girl holly.  

i dont know if anyone looked/cares, but in her pictures there are pictures of gemma.  

I think that everyone in this thing are just friends who either met before or after the start of this.  I dont believe that holly is a coincidence.  Not at all.

http://www.myspace.com/amy_aitken<br /><i>by pink striped ivy on 2006-12-08 20:11:12</i><br /><hr />Coto de Caza is one of the most expensive area's to live in the country this is a private community that is guarded by 4 different security gates to enter in to just get to the individual homes the median home price is 2 million dollars with some values as high as 35 million.  Rumors are regarding this very posh private community that monthly meetings between selected officials privately are responsible for protection of this area and inviting guest must be done days ahead of time to give security time to run background checks on all visitors.  CRAZY sounding.  

If that is the place Jonas lives it truly is in the middle of nowhere and VERY private.  Could the order be the entire community?

I dont understand the Deacons post I mean they sound like they are on the side of Bree I have brought this up before maybe they are the good guys in all this.

We need to know some more information I still think under NO circumstance that they should go to Jonas's house especially now.   

I wish we could get a video from someone in the order like a Deacon or someone from this Assembly of the Sacred wheel or the other group they mentioned.  

This is really strange.

My vote is NOT to go to Jonas's house...  oh and by the way the vote (if you EXCLUDE the duplicate votes) is EXTREMELY close.

75-77 against going to Jonas's house.  I dislike the fact that most of you are skewing the vote (just to get the story going) you know NONE of you except a couple girls that think jonas is  cute, thinks they ACTUALLY should go to Jonas's house.  But whatever the story can be just as interesting if they dont go I really dont want Jonas to be a continued part of this story he is annoying and he pisses daniel off and daniel is a good character so I dont like it at all.<br /><i>by Marcus on 2006-12-08 20:13:40</i><br /><hr />Im dumb.  Aparrently almost everyone knows this already.  But...yeah.  I donno.  Its all a set up anyways.<br /><i>by pink striped ivy on 2006-12-08 20:26:56</i><br /><hr />Marcus said:

"NONE of you except a couple girls that think jonas is cute, thinks they ACTUALLY should go to Jonasâ€™s house."

Not true at all, and I have no idea where you get that information.  If I were them, I really would go there.  And it ain't because he's "cute".<br /><i>by Paulo on 2006-12-08 20:33:20</i><br /><hr />Its all good pink..  those are actually friends of Jessica Rose and they are all pretty good friends outside the lonelygirlland.  She is going to be fully integrated into the story very soon. ;)<br /><i>by Marcus on 2006-12-08 20:33:32</i><br /><hr />Paulo you dont have to lie you know you love that gleem in his eye. LOL j/k.

Anyways I am curious why do you think they should go there .. except (advacing the storyline)

I JUST REALIZED HOW JONAS CAN BE TESTED PAULO you are AWESOME!

Why doesnt holly tell daniel to advise Jonas to send them money via Western Union to help them out I mean then he can prove his trust without having to meet up...  I mean he SUPPOSEDLY has all this money and geniunely wants to help and according to the Deacons he lives in one of the most expensive places in southern cali...  so send them money via western union and if he does you can trust him based on generosity without having to endager you and Bree!!<br /><i>by Marcus on 2006-12-08 20:39:13</i><br /><hr />i just want to say that i just reccently found your video blogs and i love you both to death. i might be one to trust too easily, but i honestly think jonas has good intentions. his life story might be sort of suspicious, but i say go for it. you dont have much else to lose, nor do you have many other options, sadly.<br /><i>by suzdov on 2006-12-08 21:00:46</i><br /><hr />Hi Everybody!

I've been really busy these past few days and just getting caught up on these videos. 

Several have good ideas of how to trust Jonas. I also have a few. 

The vote of whether to go to stay with Jonas is so incredibly close that whomver is chosen will have multiple factors to consider on both sides. 

Still, my vote is NO and I will let Holly know.<br /><i>by Marbella on 2006-12-08 21:04:11</i><br /><hr />Hey NikkiB.  I caught your new video on YouTube. It is great.  When will it be here??  : )<br /><i>by mommy72900 on 2006-12-08 21:08:19</i><br /><hr />I meant to say "test" Jonas.. never would I trust him!!<br /><i>by Marbella on 2006-12-08 21:08:51</i><br /><hr />So do I understand correctly that Holly is not just a fan like we are but actually is in the circle of Jessica, Yousef, and the creators???  What a disappointment if that is true.<br /><i>by mommy72900 on 2006-12-08 21:11:29</i><br /><hr />If you think its a good idea to have Jonas send them money (safely) via Western Union tell Holly!

Another thing in the movie fallen (which was a movie about a fallen angel turned demon named Azazel) Azazel takes the form in a cat at the end of the movie.  Watch out for cats :)<br /><i>by Marcus on 2006-12-08 21:14:50</i><br /><hr />HAHA of all people to trust..
the internet?!
haha<br /><i>by camerahead on 2006-12-08 21:27:25</i><br /><hr />OMG Joe...

(um sorry, it took me a while to post this.. when I read #498, I busted out laughing.. and woke up the dogs &amp; b/f.. lol, had to calm them all down and get them back to sleep fore I could continue writing..)

that was the stuff I was telling you about yesterday.. I didn't know about the ornges on the box tho.. omg, that's freakin hilarious!!!

Kimberly - knorkooly.. yeppers.. that's the best scenario I've seen.. it covers all bases, takes time and hopefully.. will catch something if it's going on.

Lizard... STANDING OVATION!!.. congrats, you're almost done.. and you've worked incredibly hard.. hope you get a good night's rest and go into tomorrow refreshed!

heya Marbella, missed you! hehe... you??.. anti-Jonas??.. nah, I'd NEVER have guessed, lmao!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-08 21:35:22</i><br /><hr />OHHHNOOOOOOOOO


I AM OCCUPIED DECEMBER 10TH (the prophetic day we have all been awaiting)

stupid church thing (its like aplay. only they serve dinner to the audience.)

i will stay away from the *orange* butternut squash soup<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-08 21:41:47</i><br /><hr />THIS IS FREAKING HILARIOUS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE9uwYqbQs&amp;eurl=

I like that they have fun when they arent workin if you already have seen this before apologize for the old post.<br /><i>by Marcus on 2006-12-08 21:43:01</i><br /><hr />Omg this looks like a released still photo of bree bleeding in Jonas's house...  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vlog/242714523/in/photostream/

That is crazy!<br /><i>by Marcus on 2006-12-08 21:46:20</i><br /><hr />omg.

i got a message from refusetobelievelies.

i am kind of scared to open it...like maybe a big orange slurpee virus will leak out of my screen<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-08 21:57:16</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy7,

You wanted me to take that stuff!  

Are you in the cult?

Why is everyone trying to poison me?

So who took longer to calm down dogs or b/f?<br /><i>by Joe on 2006-12-08 22:01:58</i><br /><hr />NEW VIDEOOOOOOOOO!?<br /><i>by lets_steal_everythin on 2006-12-08 22:05:51</i><br /><hr />orange slurpee virus <br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 22:06:21</i><br /><hr />Marcus that was an early pix.  I believe she spilled an Orange slurpee on herself but i forget the exact story.  I just know that pix has been around since long before Jonas<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 22:09:05</i><br /><hr />TGOE HHWP... ETS NGD IRE
SYLGE HSBHR ETETE... MIRT ALIH
RHHEOY ITEAVO GTRBEU.<br /><i>by SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL on 2006-12-08 22:09:28</i><br /><hr />Marcus,

I think I read somewhere that Jessica Rose did a student film in the horror genre in school, and that photo was uploaded Sept 13.  They definitely didn't film these things 3 months ago, so it can't be a spoiler for lg15.<br /><i>by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-08 22:11:07</i><br /><hr />#538
SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL (send note) Says: 
December 8th, 2006 at 10:09 pm 
TGOE HHWPâ€¦ ETS NGD IRE
SYLGE HSBHR ETETEâ€¦ MIRT ALIH
RHHEOY ITEAVO GTRBEU. 

THE NIGHT GROWS DEEP
SHE MAY STILL BE RIGHT THERE...
RIGHT THERE ABOVE YOU<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-08 22:16:17</i><br /><hr />Can anyone make out the street sign on the Nikki Bowers vid.....it def begins with a D.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 22:20:34</i><br /><hr />he might have a huge house an alot of money and room for ya'll......but that dont mean that he is not apart of the order.....i wouldnt trust him.....he could chop ya'll up into bit size nuggets an eat ya'll lol.....

*hugs*<br /><i>by Kyndra2007 on 2006-12-08 22:26:02</i><br /><hr />NOT FIRST!!!!!!!!!....... a totally useless comment in respong to the ApotheosisAZ video:)<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 22:26:12</i><br /><hr />modelmotion,

I think it says Burbank<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-12-08 22:29:10</i><br /><hr />#543 modelmotion

You rule!<br /><i>by ApotheosisAZ on 2006-12-08 22:37:41</i><br /><hr />Yea....i am thinking Burbank also.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 23:01:09</i><br /><hr />There is a Burbank Blvd in Woodland Hills.  The truck said Blvd on the side of it.  Now thats N of Topanga

.......but there are a couple of other Burbank Blvds.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 23:13:20</i><br /><hr />Why do so many people keep saying FIRST! Only one can be the first to post for each day.<br /><i>by Danny on 2006-12-08 23:35:43</i><br /><hr />Now the Burbank Blvd in Encino is beside a park and its also close to the movie theatre that they went to.........hummmmmmmmm<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 23:36:44</i><br /><hr />.....Danny....its becasue we belong to the cult of the Firstsayer and have drunk way tooooooo many Orange surpees to fight our Lonelycrack addiciton.  Hope that helps u comprehend the insanity.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-08 23:50:07</i><br /><hr />Oh my God... I need sleep. I sat here staring at what modelmotion wrote and thought, "Crack is whack. But Lonelycrack is quacktastic." And then I giggled for, like, twenty minutes.

I also spent fifteen minutes making the dog icon beneath the file search boxes do tricks and watching in fascination as he cooked, read, rolled his eyes, sniffed, packed a suitcase, pulled out a soccer ball, waved, and rolled his eyes some more. I was thinking, "Man, this dog is talented."

What is law school doing to me? I think it's making me STUPIDER.<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-09 00:30:16</i><br /><hr />ApotheosisAZ, I hope this is undermined by my last comment, but your Real Men of Genius clip was the funniest thing I have seen in ages! :)<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-09 01:05:16</i><br /><hr />Ignore this: Just testing to see if the comments work for me today...<br /><i>by dreamerose on 2006-12-09 01:36:35</i><br /><hr />#552 Lizard

I had a brother who graduated from law school.  He came home drooling and has a facial tic now.  We just set him a place at the kids table for Thanksgiving Dinner these days.  The kids seem to like him!<br /><i>by ApotheosisAZ on 2006-12-09 01:45:44</i><br /><hr />Addendum to my comment 554.

The kids don't know he's a lawyer.<br /><i>by ApotheosisAZ on 2006-12-09 01:51:54</i><br /><hr />My 2 cents - 

This is a tough one. Tough because we have to choose between what we'd do if we were in Bree &amp; Daniels situation OR between what the viewers would most like, drama-wise.

Because remember - this is entertainment.  We want to see something thrilling and exciting.  Secretly, don't we all like watching Bree &amp; Daniel get in and out of danger?  Weren't we all a bit disappointed that we didn't see more of the "fake" ceremony?  

On one hand, (if this was real life), trusting a complete and total stranger who lives all alone in a mansion "in the middle of nowhere" is just stupid.  Bree &amp; Daniel would surely be in danger.

On the other hand - isn't that why we all flock to movies and tv shows?  As  a viewer, we [i]want[/i] to see the heroes in danger and fight their way out.  The audience needs a little drama to keep watching, right?  Heck, the creators went to the trouble of casting an actpr to play Jonas (and nicely done too) - so, I suppose we should give the dude a chance.

Sigh - this is harder than I thought.   I think I am leaning toward the group who say choose some neutral territory.

OR - Hey Holly - you should have someone SPY on Jonas, then post the vid here for Bree and Daniel to see.

Anyone feel like doing some freelance spy work?  ;)

Whatever happens - I hope we see some progress soon.  Time for some answers .

Best,
Xen<br /><i>by Xeneri on 2006-12-09 02:17:55</i><br /><hr />they are gonna go to jonas's.<br /><i>by 1000oaksblv on 2006-12-09 02:27:38</i><br /><hr />AAARRRGGGHH I take 24 hours off the pc to look after my daughter and I MISS EVERYTHING!!! Well that will teach me to put my family before an internet soap opera!!

Can some kind soul give me an update please? Is there a new cipher? Is it the people that make it into the top ten comments that get the ciphers? Is it a reward for being part of general firstsayers army?

What did lovely goodgollyitsholly choose to do? (It makes sense that he picked an admin as she is most likely to be online on a regular basis as opposed to a normal user)

Is the lonelycrack forum up yet?

GF
xx

PS I found the best thing to help get daughter back on track was...watered down orange juice!!! AAARRRGGHH!!!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 02:34:58</i><br /><hr />hej what a shame is holly is (prop) just another actress. They shouldn't make it sound like they were involving the fans - when it turns out they aren't...<br /><i>by gillar on 2006-12-09 02:55:35</i><br /><hr />I dont think holly is an actress? Who found that one out? I've chatted with her quite a few times! (before Jonas came on the scent too)Would they really have put a plant on the forums so early? I dont think so...<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 03:09:03</i><br /><hr />Holly has made a decision
 "GoodGollyItsHolly has said " think I know what I'm going to do now.. Its the best option i think.. I cant say what it is because it would be too dangerous for everyone involved.. I will let you know later on.."

Let's hope she chose to go the way each of us wants.
Thanks for your help in this matter Holly. I know it couldn't have been an easy decision, with both sides presenting such good points as to whether to go or not to go. I'm sure you made the rest choice for Daniel and Bree and for the storyline.
Whether she chose the way we wanted it to or not, she was curteosy and grateful for all of our input.
Thanks again.
Heather<br /><i>by heather on 2006-12-09 03:21:49</i><br /><hr />I've read through the comments here and as far as I can see nobody has come up with any concrete evidence that holly is a plant. Holly has been part of the lonely girl forums and chat for ages, and as far as I'm concerned she is a real person. I would suggest, at the risk of geting seriously flamed, that those people who are claiming she is "canon" and that the creators have failed in their attempt to interact with the fans are perhaps just a teensie bit jelous that they weren't picked for the task?<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 03:31:38</i><br /><hr />Ah I take that last comment back slightly...I just managed to get the "myspace link" working that was mentioned earlier I couldnt see the pic that was being refered to...sorry if I offended anyone!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 04:45:31</i><br /><hr />ApotheosisAZ, truly the "real men of genius" video was hilarious.. although I still will refer to our General Firstsayer as a true "man of genius!!!" (in a non-sarcastic way--not because it is true as much as because it is FUN!

I just realized the creators only really presented us with two choices: Jonas or the streets. Although many of us pointed out the shades of grey in between, and we tried to figure out more intermediary choices, the characters NEVER CONSIDERED THEM!!!

I feel this is worth mentioning and pointing out. I think of course they are going to Jonas. I don't know why people keep saying Holly is a "plant," when they have no proof, but to do so is just to spread vicious rumors. If it IS true, show us the proof, ok? 

What I don't understand is an email I got that said, "I made a decision." I didn't think it was her job to make a decision. I thought she was a "vote tallier." I thought she was placed in that position due to her neutrality. 

I have openly voiced over and over again strong opposition to Jonas. NAXAN and Lizard have occasionally made comments to that effect. Still, we are capable of being impartial and fairly tallying votes. Esp. Lizard is trustworthy, I believe and I think we would all agree to that. 

Why weren't we offered two GOOD plot choices, instead of one unrealistic, sappy, sucky one (Jonas) and one pathetic, disgusting one (street life?) I will always voice my true feelings and thoughts. At the same time, I will always do my best to understand the viewpoint of the creators and to get to the truth of matters. I do not like dissension, gossip and ungrounded rumors.

I DO like carefully considered commentary. I believe that the plot creators are open to hearing this and like to have intelligent feedback. I do not believe they would discourage it.<br /><i>by Marbella on 2006-12-09 06:33:18</i><br /><hr />#550--Model-Motion..LOL...It is true.. We are strung out on the nectar of orange and lonelycrack to the point of utter desparation.. just like Bree and Daniel.. will we reach that point.. wandering the streets.. at the mercy of some kid that looks like a model to "rescue us?"<br /><i>by Marbella on 2006-12-09 06:37:12</i><br /><hr />#529--Gypsy.. Hey, sweet thing! I missed you too!! Thanks. It's been DREADFUL (to use a U.K. expression) to be away for so long!!

Hey Lizard, CONGRATS... You are almost there.. YAY!!!! 

#498-Joe- We need that orange medicine for a video.. and BTW.. at the moment, I am very sad that I still have no time yet for uploading LG-15 videos, 'cause I was having a blast mid-way through the last one. 

Still, do you guys realize I'm 6 MONTHS past my book deadline? YES. Well, the updated version of the main text will be out next week if I approve it. The workbook may take a bit later. After that, PLAYTIME.. video time.. YAY!!

Sorry for the mega-posting.. I've been gone for too long and I need to get back to work!!!!!<br /><i>by Marbella on 2006-12-09 06:42:27</i><br /><hr />i dont trust anybody in the series.. not even bree :p<br /><i>by gepetto on 2006-12-09 06:45:14</i><br /><hr />The poll in the forum was 66% pro Jonas, so not really a close call. Of course Holly probably got like hundreds of additional PMs.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 06:58:32</i><br /><hr />arg, HATE IT when my cable dies!!

Joe - dogs took longer, lol... they wanted to come out and play!

Marbella - hurry and get done then, lol, I'm still waiting on your vid!

gemma's flatmate - watered down OJ, huh?.. hmm... either way tho, I'm glad you're daughter's feeling better!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-09 07:42:11</i><br /><hr />lolol, ApotheosisAZ - you did it again, I love it!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-09 07:59:25</i><br /><hr />I think we need a new video....<br /><i>by 707clique on 2006-12-09 08:00:34</i><br /><hr />707- I'm with you on that one, specially since I won't be home later !!

we need to rabble...

VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO!!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-09 08:05:02</i><br /><hr />oh yeah.. we seriously need a new video. I woke up early on Saturday (which I rarely get off from work), first thing I did was head here.
Now we need a new video before the "I can sleep in late" sleepies set in and I go back to bed.<br /><i>by heather on 2006-12-09 08:07:40</i><br /><hr />Has anybody had trouble posting a video comment today??  When I add the URL (in the correct format) and click the submit button, nothing happens.

I think that it would be useful if we had an easy way of sending "Bug Reports" or sending inquiries to the System Administrator from this page.<br /><i>by mofun10801 on 2006-12-09 08:08:05</i><br /><hr />Mary, thank you!!
I missed everybody here and will try to participate as much as I am able to..<br /><i>by Marbella on 2006-12-09 08:09:49</i><br /><hr />So are Bree and Daniel on their way to jonas's now? I hope he tries to eat them or u know bree gets pregnant and doesnt know who the father is a) Daniel b) Jonas c)Owen d)Crazy cult leader guy who chatted her up at the cermony that b fun<br /><i>by SecretAgentKaz on 2006-12-09 08:12:16</i><br /><hr />video! video! video! (rabble rabble)<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 08:45:32</i><br /><hr />Video! Video! Video!<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-09 08:55:25</i><br /><hr />we SO need a video now, especially with them all meeting and everything... tho I really hope Bree and Daniel stay together in one bedroom.

Marbella.. lmao, what are you gonna do with them at Jonas', if that's how it winds up? (and I think it will..) *Imaginging you gritting your teeth every time a new vid comes out, lol!!*<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-09 09:05:03</i><br /><hr />TIME FOR NEW VIDEO!


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TW - please please oh please... can we have another P. Monkey in charge vid?!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-09 09:08:50</i><br /><hr />Anybody else feel as if this whole taking a poll thing was just a stall tactic to keep us occupied and appeased until 12/10/06?<br /><i>by AlliBean on 2006-12-09 09:11:25</i><br /><hr />Allibean - anything is possible, but for myself.. I'm not convinced that 12/10/06 is anything special.

BTW - how are you feeling? Better, I hope!<br /><i>by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-12-09 09:18:35</i><br /><hr />Could the mentioning of the top ten in the anagram messages have anything to do with Dec 10th? REBEL said time for murder is near and Dec 10th is supposed to be an important date.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 09:25:12</i><br /><hr />to be "FRANK" Dream, you have a point!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 09:32:04</i><br /><hr />well if jonas couldn't be trusted...i think theyre's enough evidence online..so your safe. trust him.<br /><i>by li0lethepi0le on 2006-12-09 10:20:24</i><br /><hr />Decoding the encrypted messages is quite simple. Just take the first letter of each word in one line, then the second letters, then the third, etc., until you finisht that line. Then add spaces, and viola!
An example:
FEOO RNRE? IDF

FRI (first letters) END (second letters) ORF OE?
Put together: FRIENDORFOE?
Add spaces: FRIEND OR FOE?

Viola.<br /><i>by amb on 2006-12-09 10:20:44</i><br /><hr />Danny boy, that brought a tear to mee cheek! Awwwwww....*ahem* now as far as Jonas, DO NOT TRUST HIM!!! PEOPLE KEEP DISAPPEARING AROUND THIS GUY, HIS PARENT, HIS NANNY; YOU TWO ARE NEXT!! 

Bree just thinks his cute and Gemma is jealous that she hasn't been offered to shack up with him (which is the ONLY reason she doesn't "Trust" him  ;)) 

Try a Hostel, a church, anything else....call your parents so that don't worry and do something crazy like call the corrupted police!!

Take care Dude!<br /><i>by QuickClick on 2006-12-09 10:37:52</i><br /><hr />video video video video<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 10:40:46</i><br /><hr />video video video video video video
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*chanting continues silently*<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 10:46:27</i><br /><hr />Video. Vid-eeee-o (yawn) vid...<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-09 11:15:54</i><br /><hr />In the Wired interview, the Creators said they would hire new writer/directors and integrate their stories into lonelygirl.  My theory is that Holly was a fan, but since she's also a filmmaker, they hired her to contribute.  I could be way off on this...what do you guys think?<br /><i>by elliemae on 2006-12-09 11:50:41</i><br /><hr />okay, this is driving me nuts. where are all the other videos located? there used to be a bar with them listed. now, nada. unlike some fans, i can't get on everyday to check for a new video. and now that the bar is gone, i know i'm missing chunks.<br /><i>by notlikecrazii on 2006-12-09 12:10:46</i><br /><hr />I've been thinking alot of Gemma and I've wonder, what if Gemma is helping the "watchers" like she know soo much about them and this could just be my imagination.. i dunno, but she is telling them to go home and where to go and what if she is setting Bree and Daniel up.. She is also saying how she doesn't trust Jonas, but what if Jonas is just trying to help and Gemma thinks they he is getting in the way... This may just be me, but I wouldn't trust Gemma, or Jonas.. I would stick together Danial and Bree, and trust only each other.. Stick to your gut instincs and ignore the dirt drifting in through out side sources...<br /><i>by AkromaAngel on 2006-12-09 12:19:18</i><br /><hr />Why would Gemma alert Bree to the true nature of the watchers if she was indeed one of them, or helping them to find Daniel and Bree?<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-09 12:52:12</i><br /><hr />What better way to gain someone's trust than to provide info that looks like help? "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 13:11:41</i><br /><hr />notlikecrazii,

Hit refresh.  It's still there, but sometimes it sticks.<br /><i>by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-09 13:17:29</i><br /><hr />arrrgh VIDEO!!!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 13:32:25</i><br /><hr />600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!6!!0!!!0!!!!!

That was for the general.

Now this is for the Lonelycrackheads-

VIDEO!  VIDEO!!  VIDEO!!<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-09 13:34:36</i><br /><hr />Six hundred and .................................................................................................FIRST!!!!!!1!!!1!!1!!!!!!!

<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-09 13:40:57</i><br /><hr />VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO

VIDEO V-V-VIDEOOOO VIDEO

Do you think Jonas could spare some cash and get me checked into rehab?<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-09 13:42:43</i><br /><hr />TIME FOR NEW VIDEO!

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...I think I should be on some type of medication.<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-09 14:33:33</i><br /><hr /># 608 Elphellives, 
I'm sorry but you are out in left field, the series is not going to end anytime soon, the series will end, 

One, if and when the creators run out of funds, but their intention is to eventually turn a profit, so that might not happen.

Or two, the fans loose interest, which doesn't seem to be happening.

Or three JRL quits, because I doubt if the series can continue without Bree.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-12-09 14:38:13</i><br /><hr />*sighs*...No video yet?<br /><i>by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-09 14:59:54</i><br /><hr />ApotheosisAZ, "I had a brother who graduated from law school. He came home drooling and has a facial tic now. We just set him a place at the kids table for Thanksgiving Dinner these days. The kids seem to like him!"

Well, everyone can enjoy a pet lawyer. Especially the ones crushed beneath the boot of their law professors. They're so placid and into shiny things...

"The kids donâ€™t know heâ€™s a lawyer." 
Oh, well, you wouldn't want to scare them! Kids have enough problems with just ONE Bogey man. They don't need to know that it's a whole profession!

Marbella said, "Esp. Lizard is trustworthy, I believe and I think we would all agree to that."

Awww... That's very nice. I'm not sure you would trust me to make decisions if you saw me staring at the dog in my computer while he rolls his eyes at me... and makes me strangely angry. *mutters* "I SAID do a TRICK! Now!" :P But maybe having something other than Civ Pro to focus on would restore some sanity. I appreciate the sentiment. :)

"Hey Lizard, CONGRATSâ€¦ You are almost there.. YAY!!!!"

Thanks! I'm actually starting to get excited. After Monday, I have one test to go. Then I'm going to run free a while and dance in the streets! :) 

The posters here certainly know how to build a girl's morale, I gotta tell you. :)

Incidentally, I thought it was interesting that Daniel's vid implied this trust in the fans because they've been around and helped out for so long... and then asked them if he should go to some new guy's house. Why not crash with the people you seem to already trust? And why isn't he asking for the cash instead of the board? Come on, man, as so many people have mentioned, this is a no-brainer: Daniel doesn't want to be in Jonas' clutches, Jonas is pleading for acceptance of his generosity... So fork over the dough, pretty boy.

*shrugs* I think those ideas have flaws, story-wise, but they would've been worth seeing Daniel reason past them one way or another just to know he considered the possibilities. Like, "Well, Bree doesn't want to just ask him for money because it would make her feel bad to snub him (rejecting offer of board)and take his cash" or "P-monkey advises not staying with you guys, he thinks one or more of you may have made a pact with Owen and Gemma to do him in." Or something. :P 

I dunno, maybe that's asking a lot from a 3 minute vid. I guess maybe we can play the "friendly reader" role my writing professors used to talk about. The profs used to go on about leaving questions in the mind of the reader unanswered, and how a friendly reader might just say, "Oh, well, the writer just didn't tell us because of X" or "well, I guess Y probably happened." Thus they bridge the gaps for themselves. Of course, they used to say not to expect that treatment on pain of your book being bargain-binned... Here, though, because I enjoy the show, I don't mind playing the friendly reader now and then, though sometimes I yearn for a bit more.<br /><i>by Lizard on 2006-12-09 15:02:52</i><br /><hr />All right gang, I got a message (and I've never been top ten)... Dream, i haven't sorted out the third line yet, but here's what I've got...

From: utnbers-tutlaen 
To: perky 
Subject: ~0~ 
 
     
Note: mre,oL aebti nauwn ybtig. alnlâ€¦ 
trwy. heo enr yoT athâ€¦ 
fih, eSvrne, bevtoatoN. icn, iarsoceeerptaâ€¦ 
wiuolr hldmyu alo,wos tywIut, wohltâ€¦ 
wocd? hua eal nrl yEeâ€¦  

The capital letters are LTSNIE (Listen)

many are able, but not willing...
they are not worthy.
fih, eSvrne, bevtoatoN. icn, iarsoceeerpta
what will you do, whom wIll you trust,
when you arE called?

I guess I'm trusting you all a bit... let's see where this ride goes  ;-)<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 15:03:34</i><br /><hr />#614 Perky I got the message as well. Gemmas flatmate and her genius boyfriend are working on line 3 and the subject title. 

If you go to utnbers-tutlaen's user-profile, you see another lovely creepy eye and you see that the name is actually spelled UtNbErS tutlaEN - caps saying UNSEEN.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 15:13:16</i><br /><hr />User was registered today. Oh, and I couldn't figure out the anagram of the whole user-name yet.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 15:14:04</i><br /><hr />i got the same thing....thank god for other people able to want to do this.<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-09 15:16:41</i><br /><hr />someone probably figured out refusetobbelieve...so they changed....or it's cassie...it's probably cassie...but cassie i think wants to be friends with bree but doesn't want to blow here cover<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-09 15:18:26</i><br /><hr />Someone has way too uhcm miet no heirt sdanh.<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-09 15:21:05</i><br /><hr />lol<br /><i>by adritha on 2006-12-09 15:22:39</i><br /><hr />aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i'm supposed to be writing a paper and teaching myself international trade law why do you do this to me Creators!!!!???!!!  whyyyyyyy

lonelycrack withdrawl is making me paranoid... plus i don't have time to read the 300 new comments... anxiety is getting bad... who cares about economic justice when the fates of bree and daniel are uncertain?!?!?!  i also hate how the vlog was frozen- daniel is making a goofy puffy face and I DONT LIKE IT

ok... i'm sorry everybody...  i'm going to go drink some caffeine...<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 15:25:00</i><br /><hr />TIME FOR NEW VIDEO!

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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE<br /><i>by khjq on 2006-12-09 15:28:30</i><br /><hr />As for the conversation with REBEL I told her I am her friend and she could trust me. She asked about Bones and I told her she could trust him as well. 

Gemmas flatmate and I talked about a possible connection to Frankiswaking since this message has been in one of his videos: 

we watch and we wait
10/12/06 
will decide our fate
the beast will rise
louder are Cassie's Cries
screaming from within
the knife is reserved for sin. 

I asked REBEL if she knew anything about it, the answer was:

ice grows thin beneath your feet
the path shall soon fade away
shes feeding on the screams of the mutant she created
are you my friend or not?

I guess I trust you all as well, since I'm sharing the conversation. Hope, she does not mind... The "the ice is getting thin beneath your feet" part was slightly scary...

Btw there were no more top ten references since I asked her what would happen tomorrow. So possibly top ten is a countdown until tomorrow?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 15:29:20</i><br /><hr />GOT IT
Line 3: faith, perseverence, observation, action

and the sender is "untenable trust"<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 15:30:43</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy7- on my way to being healthy again... thanks for asking!<br /><i>by AlliBean on 2006-12-09 15:33:13</i><br /><hr />OMG, is there no new video yet?

*cries*

I need my Lonelycrack!!!<br /><i>by irishka on 2006-12-09 15:34:27</i><br /><hr />Tomorrow may be the last one.<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-09 15:36:11</i><br /><hr />WIUIE HAESN... IMSG LBHR ELEE
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TGHTE. OHER NTYI ITSK<br /><i>by SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL on 2006-12-09 15:37:24</i><br /><hr />#624 Perky Good work! Was there a cipher?

So, who is this user? Faith, perseverence, observation, action sounds a bit like something OpAphid would be saying.

Perky, are you answering the message?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 15:38:26</i><br /><hr />f you solep!!!  where is the lonelycrack?!?!?!<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 15:38:57</i><br /><hr />someone please help ME jesus<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 15:40:49</i><br /><hr />solep?<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-09 15:41:34</i><br /><hr />Mary, the Order would probably be happy to give you an orange slushee...to ease the pain...you know...<br /><i>by Elphielives on 2006-12-09 15:42:30</i><br /><hr />orange slushee = soylent green<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-09 15:44:52</i><br /><hr />Ok, Marbella would say marble loss at 98%. Too many anagrams. I start confusing myself. Can anyone please solve REBEL's comment?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 15:45:38</i><br /><hr />The third line was supposed to be one line without spaces... first letter, than last... second letter, then second to last, etc... 

Same with the name.<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 15:46:11</i><br /><hr />again, sorry guys.  sorry, "someone please help me" that you were the target of my wrath... but you did put up a big ole coded message which i am getting tired of, because they aren't feeding the fiend within...i will not succumb to the orange slushies... i'm fighting this off with coffee, like they do in other addiction programs.  i may have to go buy a pack of cigarettes, too, but i just hate the feeling of inhaling cancer.<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 15:53:31</i><br /><hr />IIIRRSSSTTTTTFFFF!!!!!111NEONEO11!!!<br /><i>by Moondoogle on 2006-12-09 15:55:38</i><br /><hr />Ok, I got a very alarmed message of REBEL just now that I want to share...

DAEM RMLEâ€¦ EHP 
Dream help me.

IMO TE,T SIM NTE. OS TN 
its not me, its not me

TTKM HHIEâ€¦ EIT YNS 
they think its me

DTURN OHNSD? NEDT TYEA 
dont they understand?

ORPREDTM TPLETIOE. HEEPENB EOARNGE 
other people are pretending to be me.

ISHWLT WHEODO ITYUSP. 
I wish they would stop.

TYNE HDTEâ€¦ EOS 
they dont see

TEND HPGA EUMN YTEG ATIE RINR. 
they are putting me in danger.

TRNMME HEGYCR. EBIDL YRNOO AIGOS 
they are bringing my doom closer

TYLIM HWLNE. EIFD 
they will find me.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 15:57:28</i><br /><hr />Personally, I don't think utnbers tutlaen is the resident Rebel. Why would she create two accounts and do the same thing? It would be too much to handle. Whoever it is, be more creative? I mean, come on! Your profile is nearly the same as hers. You're just being a cheap imitation. Sorry.
Cheers,
Tegz<br /><i>by I Love Billy on 2006-12-09 16:04:09</i><br /><hr />#628

WHILE I AM BLUE SHE IS GREEN
RAGE SPILLS THROUGH MY OPEN MAIN VEIN
FOR UNDER HER PRETTY ANGEL'S FACE
A WRATH UNENDURED BY HUMANKIND
A DAY MORE CHILLING THAN 666
SO SUCH SHALL BE THE ANGER I POSSESS
ONE THE DAY DRENCHED IN HER OWN BLOOD
FACE OF DEATH STARING DOWN, YOUR BLOOD RUNNING COLD
PROVOKE MY TEMPER YOU SHALL BE NEXT
TONIGHT THEY ENSURE NO ONE SLEEPS WELL (no kidding, haha)
CHECK FOR BLOODY BITES COME MORNING
FOR NO ONE SHALL BE SPARED
HEED THIS WARNING: 
LOCK YOUR WINDOWS
TONIGHT THEY STRIKE<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 16:04:49</i><br /><hr />eeeek! (hiding under bed)<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:06:31</i><br /><hr />"While I am blue she is green"

Gemma? 

And this is the second time "bites" have come up. (#603 from the last video)<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 16:07:22</i><br /><hr />Damn, Perky. I JUST finished deciphering it and then refreshed to see that you'd done it, lol.<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-09 16:07:41</i><br /><hr />#641 Ok, GF and I found another reference a while ago, this one on an OpAphid video description. It definitely came to mind again just now, though I have no idea what it could mean in the context: 

A 2/5: Attention leads to invocation.

A psychic vampire feeds off of your energy and attention. To stop it is simple: Ignore it.

Maimonides and Abraham ibn Ezra denied the existence of demons. Their philosophies became a part of the mainstream Jewish faith regarding the subject.

Perhaps this was the right approach. i.e. "To ignore evil is to deny it any power over you."

However, Charles Baudelaire suggested, "The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist."

What if he was indeed correct?

[ A IN APHID ]<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:09:42</i><br /><hr />LOL I'm watching film called "The sum of all fears" and the background song to the scene is "nessen dorma" "none shall sleep"...<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:11:07</i><br /><hr />Hahaha I hate this damn game... Creators: Some of us have finals to worry about! Sadistic bastards! 

*sobbing and praying to the God of Lonelycracks for the strength to look... away...*<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 16:12:25</i><br /><hr />Ok, OpAphid are recruiting only "the worthy", the girl in their videos has green eyes and the words sound like OpAphid.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:14:09</i><br /><hr />#647 Perky I have a paper for a scientific congress to finish until next week... Trust me, I know how you feel...

Ok, as far as I understand it, the ARG people are "hired" by OpAphid. So if REBEL is fleeing them, could this be kind of the "other side"-ARG?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:16:55</i><br /><hr />The story goes: OpAphid see Cassie as a psychic vampire. Cassieiswatching was created by a schizophrenic called Frank who had links to OpAphid..he died. Then all of Cassieiswatching vids were taken off youtube and frankiswatching appeared

This all complete fanfic nonsense by the way! Please dont have nightmares folks!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:17:29</i><br /><hr />So is "Untenable Trust" (utnbers-tutlaen) OpAphid?<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 16:19:11</i><br /><hr />Dream you could be right! Its a well known fact that the OpAphid game "jacked" the cassieiswatching game!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:20:52</i><br /><hr />ttp://www.lonelygirl15.com/?page_id=113&amp;member=4079
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Image:Aphid8.JPG

Similarities?<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:22:18</i><br /><hr />http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Gamejacking<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:22:51</i><br /><hr />gemmas flatmate,

CiW's vids are still on YT.<br /><i>by khjq on 2006-12-09 16:23:00</i><br /><hr />cant open the first link Dream but I presume its a link to green eyes?<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:24:13</i><br /><hr />I got this note today.  Can someone please help me decipher it??

From: utnbers-tutlaen 
To: mommy72900 
Subject: ~0~ 
Date sent: 2006-12-09 14:03:36 
Date read: 2006-12-09 16:20:08 
     
Note: mre,oL aebti nauwn ybtig. alnlâ€¦ 
trwy. heo enr yoT athâ€¦ 
fih, eSvrne, bevtoatoN. icn, iarsoceeerptaâ€¦ 
wiuolr hldmyu alo,wos tywIut, wohltâ€¦ 
wocd? hua eal nrl yEeâ€¦<br /><i>by mommy72900 on 2006-12-09 16:24:22</i><br /><hr />http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?page_id=113&amp;member=4079

Yes, it is, it's utnbers-tutlaen's user-profile. Don't know why the link isn't working.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:30:34</i><br /><hr />correction khjq! I meant watchingcassie.. I think... argh too many ARGs!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:31:53</i><br /><hr />Link working! thanks Dream! (Scary eye!)<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:32:52</i><br /><hr />btw pink will be so annoyed when she finds out how much she missed today...<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:33:08</i><br /><hr />MESSAGE FROM REFUSETOBELIEVELIES:

SJTCN AUETHG MBCOAE
Date sent:	2006-12-06 18:29:01
Date read:	2006-12-09 16:34:53
 		 
Note:	 TTPYLGPTAOHK. OELSAEATNUI PNAARRRHYTN 
TUMELNTL HROVYIMF. ETRETHY YMERHUS HESEARE 
TAAI HRTN EECG. YWH


this is scary. am i one of the 'chosen ones'?? bum bumm bumm<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 16:36:01</i><br /><hr />Ok, so I'd say no answers to the green-eyed lady. OpAphid - definitely not my friends, definitely no one I would trust.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:36:18</i><br /><hr />OMG

TOMORROW IS DECEMBER 10TH

*trumpet effects*<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 16:37:22</i><br /><hr />can someone decode my message #662??? i cant. its a tricky one.<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 16:37:53</i><br /><hr />mommy72900,

Like this:

mre,ol
aebti
nauwn
ybtig.
alnl...


many are able but not willing...(this has an extra "," and ".")<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 16:38:33</i><br /><hr />#662 Grace, the solution to this anagram is already on the LGpedia page...

http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=RefusEtoBeliEveLies

Had no time to put up today's events so far, though. Too much happening...<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:39:07</i><br /><hr />ApotheosisAZ,

Now I can't decide which video is better, Now_Hiring or Real_Men_of _Genius - They're both GREAT. (it would be cool though, if I could yell FIRST! when you post another video :)lol.)<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 16:41:49</i><br /><hr />dream....are you the same person as refusetobelievelies?? just a thought, since you seem to be pretty darn good at decoding them<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 16:43:53</i><br /><hr />Dream - I responded to the green eye after I got the message to see what happens next. I'll post if I get anything back.<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 16:46:19</i><br /><hr />#669 Grace, no I'm not. *lol* But I'll take that as a compliment. :D<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:46:25</i><br /><hr />so on RefusEtoBeliEveLies.....

apparently its a suicidal anti-bree freak who is going to creep into my window at night, lurk at the foot of my bed, and attack at 12. 

weird.<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 16:46:55</i><br /><hr />There are a ton of us working together on the ciphers Grace! (Not stealing Dreams thunder because she is good with anagrams, but my boyfriend worked out the code for solving them..and he doesnt even like LG15!)
Refusetobelievelies is a mystery user. Remember the creators promise for more interaction?....<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:47:38</i><br /><hr />someone should send refusetobelievelies a nice cold orange slurpee. it would put her out of her misery.<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 16:47:47</i><br /><hr />#670 Perky That'll be interesting! Please post it ASAP! I'm definitely not replying. I told REBEL she could trust me, so trust me she can.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:47:48</i><br /><hr />Its 11:50 where I am! *hangs psychic garlic around neck*<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:48:59</i><br /><hr />brrrr. its cold in this room. our family just tried to shoot our christmas photos, but it started raining and the wind started blowing ferociously, so we stopped. 

and i refuse to take it tomorrow. because i will be sitting at my computer ALL day hitting 'refresh' over and over.

cant wait for december 10th!!! its THE day....soemthing is going to happen....<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 16:50:22</i><br /><hr />#673 Yep, gemmas flatmate, I totally agree with you! Actually I wanted to put a reference like "cipher solved by gemmas flatmate's genius boyfriend" on the LGpedia page, but Treefunk took it out again with a bunch of other user-names and the comment that LGpeadia is for providing useful information... ;)<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:51:12</i><br /><hr />Its december 10th in Australia...nearly Dec 10th in Britain..come on creators! Half the world is waiting!!!!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:52:31</i><br /><hr />#676 GF, I think you're quite safe, the vampires use PST - it's 00:50 here already and nothing happened.<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:53:20</i><br /><hr />did anyone else notice the looming dark figure just to the right of the telephone pole in the background?<br /><i>by silentxgloom on 2006-12-09 16:54:25</i><br /><hr />#678 I know Dream (personally I think as boyf doesnt like LG15 he shouldnt get any credit LOL) I just wanted to prove your not on the orange slurpees!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 16:54:38</i><br /><hr />i don't like opaphid.  its creepy.  there's too much information!!  i've spent the last 2 hours catching up on the lg15 stuff, and not on my paper OR on my self-teaching!  but the coffee is helping... soothing caffeine..

so i don't really understand what's going on with opaphid, cassie, tachyon, etc., because i didn't wanna watch the creepy videos.  i also don't know who nikki bower is.  but i understand that's ok; it's not *necessary* information...

maybe i'll just read the lgpedia later... after i do some work (jeez)

glad to see marbella is back!  even if she can only pop in a few times here and there... and good job lizard!!  you have one left i understand?

and finally, hello bones.  just wanted to acknowledge you :)<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 16:54:59</i><br /><hr />Haha it's only going on 7PM on the east coast (U.S.)... so only 4PM in Cali. Looks like no one is getting any sleep tonight  ;-)<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 16:55:27</i><br /><hr />#684 Ok, 4PM there, 1AM here, that means... midnight there, 9AM here. Maybe I should try to get some sleep now? But what if they upload a video before midnight? *lonelycrack, need more lonelycrack*<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 16:59:04</i><br /><hr />Well I have to go to bed now, under orders of boyfriend...we're not even tired what on earth can you do in bed when your not tired? ;) good luck all and watch your neck!<br /><i>by gemmas flatmate on 2006-12-09 17:00:09</i><br /><hr />i never saw the person peeking out... is this person supposed to be behind the wall?  i saw the car...<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:00:56</i><br /><hr />yup. 4 pm here. im in california! but i dont live on the beach and i DONT know jessica simpson (sorry...just had to clear up the stereotypes)<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 17:02:26</i><br /><hr />oh and just fyi... when he mentioned the movie wargames w. matthew broderick..  i proudly glanced over to my stack of VHS and winked at my copy of it!  then i got suspicious of it and made it sleep in the other room<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:03:07</i><br /><hr />Dream, I think you should take the chance to sleep... I have a feeling tomorrow is going to get crazy. But I will feel very bad if something exciting happens while you sleep, so forget I said anything.<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 17:03:47</i><br /><hr />WIUIE HAESNâ€¦ IMSG LBHR ELEE
RLUEE ALGNI GSHMN. ETMA SHYI PRON IOPV
FERNA OREGC RHTEEâ€¦ UETL NRYS DPAF
AURUN WNEMD. REDA ANBN TDYK HUHI
ARLA DEIN ACN6 YHG6 MIT6: OLH
SSEGS OHTEE SAHRS ULEIS. CLAP HBNO
OACHB NYHEL TDERO HRDOO EEIWDâ€¦ DNNN
FDTDUDN AEAORRG CARWBUC ETINLNO OHNYONL FSGOOID.
PKEYAN REMOLE OMPULX VYESBTâ€¦ OTRHE
THYRNEL OTEEEPL. NTNNSS IHSOLW GEUOEE
CFOIOR HOOTMN ERDEEI CBYSMN KLBCOGâ€¦
FNLP OELA RSBR NHEE OASD.
HTWI EHAN EIRG: DSN
LYWO OOIW CUNSâ€¦ KRD
TGHTE. OHER NTYI ITSK 

Solution:
While I am blue she is green
Rage spills through my open main vein.
For under her pretty angel face
A wrath un endured by human kind
A day more chilling than 666:
So such shall be the anger I poses.
On the day drenched in her own blood
Face of death staring down your blood running cold.
Provoke my temper you shall see next
Tonight the yen sure no one sleeps well. 
Check for bloody bites come morningâ€¦
For no one shall be spared.
Heed this warning:
Lock your windowsâ€¦
Tonight they strike.

not sure if this is completly correct, but x] w/e.
Cheers, 
Tegz<br /><i>by I Love Billy on 2006-12-09 17:05:19</i><br /><hr />haha! the last 3 numbers of my moms liscence plate are 666!!!

my sister and i were laughing so hard when she got it. my mom was pretttty pissed though. she was like 'why me???'<br /><i>by Grace on 2006-12-09 17:10:28</i><br /><hr />how am i supposed to teach myself internation trade law when one of the books is ORANGE???<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:11:07</i><br /><hr />Rules (symtoms)of Lonelygirl15 (LonelyCrack):

Your openning comment to any video posted must include FIRST!(loudly)in the body of your comment

Return to the website daily, if for no other reason, to re read the comments you read yesterday (or in the last ten minutes)

Avoid all things Orange (esp Orange Slurpees, although Cherry, Grape and Cola have tested okay)

Look suspiciously at any and all Girl Scouts (or any person in possesion of Girl Scout Cookies)

Ensure you have quarters available whenever you log on (for Lizard)

Dwell on any mystery (related or not) for the sake of dwelling on mysteries

Keep all of your Marbles clean and shinny (if you have any left, mine went to Marbella)

Make sure your local preschool DOES teach anagram solving<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 17:11:24</i><br /><hr />i think i'm starting to lose it... did someone say something about a support group?<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:11:45</i><br /><hr />I know I'm missing some somewhere...<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 17:14:08</i><br /><hr />#694 NAXAN Please put that on the LonelyCrack LGpedia! We have a questionnaire already but an additional diagnosis section would be very welcome!<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 17:16:31</i><br /><hr />my cat's name is Marbles.  she's clean and shiny :)<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:17:29</i><br /><hr />jc_gypsy7 and NAXAN

I am glad you both enjoyed it!  :)<br /><i>by ApotheosisAZ on 2006-12-09 17:18:22</i><br /><hr />70000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000th!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:19:12</i><br /><hr />I'm getting less excited with this is all by the second... :(<br /><i>by Mo on 2006-12-09 17:19:29</i><br /><hr />mo- be glad.  you must not be an addict.  so far, the first 100 or so hits have been free...<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:20:50</i><br /><hr />Everyone - you have to see Real Men of Genius (a video in the right block of videos !<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 17:23:52</i><br /><hr />Where's the new video??<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-09 17:28:59</i><br /><hr />Real Men of Genius was awesome!!!  Brilliant!  You should make another- there are so many things that we do that prove our intellect... like... well Lizard is becoming a lawyer without the help of "traditional" drugs like cocaine!<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:31:16</i><br /><hr />well i feel i should clarify that last point... law students don't do cocaine really... they use Adderol.  ask Lizard.  or me.  i think we both succeed with a mixture of lonelycrack, caffeine, and insanity, but i should only speak for myself.<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:33:26</i><br /><hr />So, what is up all? I have just recieved yet another letter from REBEL. Dream and Gemma's Flatmates will find this one interesting.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-09 17:34:33</i><br /><hr />TIME FOR NEW VIDEO!

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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE<br /><i>by khjq on 2006-12-09 17:35:29</i><br /><hr />Lizard only has a nose for quarters...<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 17:35:50</i><br /><hr />Wait, Mary how do law students get their hands on Adderol? It's either speed or meth, I can't remember which one. It should only be taken by people such as my self who have a perscription for it.

Remember kids, drugs aren't cool. Stay in school.
GO NANCY REGAN!!!<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-09 17:36:30</i><br /><hr />Nexan, what happens when you dip a girl scout cookie into an Orange slurpee.....does it become super EVIL?<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-09 17:37:38</i><br /><hr />Nah, they just kinda explode, like the guy in 'Heroes'<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 17:40:41</i><br /><hr />Bones- that's a good question.  i think it is speed.  i don't take it myself, but i would imagine those who do do something like going to their general practitioner, saying "i have a.d.d." and getting a scrip, then waiting until they have something due and popping a bunch of them.  my doctor (who is a psychiatrist) (yes i am crazy but i don't take adderol, that's not my problem) told me that she had a patient for whom she was prescribing adderol, and then found out that her regular doctor was ALSO prescribing it!  the girl was taking one scrip and selling the other.  i'm not sure when the family practitioner got the license to prescribe psychiatric drugs, but they'll throw those drugs at anyone!<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:42:30</i><br /><hr />Hey is REBEL out there watching us. If you are: 

HDULOTE OODENYL WIDATOF YNYSHU OG?EUR UBPDRS

I wish you'd answer us. Dream and I want to help<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-09 17:43:03</i><br /><hr />gosh, i'm going to sleep now... tension is killing me o0
keep fingers crossed that i'm awake again if new vid is there, pls!!!

it's sooo addicting... ... ... ... :D<br /><i>by colera on 2006-12-09 17:43:41</i><br /><hr />I think this is maybe a secret signal of the ORDER...

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k279/modelmotion/capt.jpg

..perahaps he is sending a message to George....

..who, we all know is related to Crowley!!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-09 17:43:58</i><br /><hr />i'm not really friends with any of my schoolmates except for teachers.  i go to UT, so you have to remember lots of these kids are running around in ORANGE.  or business suits for interviews.  that's not really my style.<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:45:21</i><br /><hr />Modelmotion,

Nope, he is just playing squirel, nut, man...<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 17:47:48</i><br /><hr />Last day. Capricorn 15's. Year of the city - 2274. 
Carousel begins.

Be strong and you will be renewed. 
Identify.<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-09 17:49:57</i><br /><hr />NAXAN- he's saying "nut" right?<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:50:40</i><br /><hr />OK, guys, I'm off to sleep for a few hours... I'll be back at midnight PST.

Please remember the green-eyes person is evil, ok? Defend our Rebel! Bones, I count on you! :)

And Creators? Please don't make me rue going to bed!<br /><i>by Dream on 2006-12-09 17:52:49</i><br /><hr />I trust Gemma but not Jonas. Nothing sold to base my opnion on, just intuition.<br /><i>by MYKroe on 2006-12-09 17:55:08</i><br /><hr />It just occurred to me we should be very wary of anyone who registers as a member on 12/10/06 !<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 17:57:19</i><br /><hr />ems some nuclear nuts he got there, dude....<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-09 17:58:25</i><br /><hr />Dream:
Don't worry chica, I'll be here.<br /><i>by Bones on 2006-12-09 17:58:46</i><br /><hr />guys... i have green eyes.  but i'm not evil, ok?  you can give me a test.  ask Holly to decide<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 17:59:16</i><br /><hr />My current count of members is 4103, I think we should keep an eye out for any member ID over 4100, (just to be carefull) *looks around*<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 18:01:22</i><br /><hr />#719  Did I miss something? Or is that a clue for 12/10?<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 18:05:59</i><br /><hr />Perky,...'Logan's Run'....<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 18:07:29</i><br /><hr />Wow, I have been gone for a long time!  I managed to put down the crack pipe and leave it there for 2 days!  Look at all the anagram action!  So, let me get this straight, Rebel is good, the green eye person is bad, right?  Agh, complicated!

I can't believe I was gone this long and there is no new video.  :(  

videovideovideovideovideovideovideovideo<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 18:09:41</i><br /><hr />krig,

the green eyed person appeared today... we think it's OpAphid. We also think Rebel is Cassie. And all of the messages involve blood and bites and bad things happening soon. I think we're all holding our breath for midnight PST.<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 18:14:56</i><br /><hr />REBEL is not important nor the anagrams, not really good or evil...

We are still testing Mary because she has green eyes....<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 18:15:27</i><br /><hr />I really hate to have to ask this because I have been guilty of thinking folks who keep asking qestions like "what is canon?" should do a better job of reading and keeping up...  But, whats up with 12/10/06?  I really must have missed it - and I thought I did a pretty good job of keeping up - for an old guy anyway.<br /><i>by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-09 18:20:31</i><br /><hr />Phew, guess I'm safe.  Mine are blue.  Wait, blue like Gemma's!  Agh!  Need brown contacts, stat!<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 18:22:38</i><br /><hr />Check 'Bree the cookie monster' video (or LGpedia page) for 10-12-06 (tommorrow is that date)<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 18:24:59</i><br /><hr />p. monkey gave the cookies bree made in the bree the cookie monster video a 6, a 12, and a 10

so we've been extrapolating since then regarding those numbers and found that 10/12 is aleister crowly's bday., but nothing happened that day, so now we're waiting til 12/10/06<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 18:25:03</i><br /><hr />probably, tomorrow we'll open the page to daniel's face and "the test," and nothing will happen, except a very loud world-wide wail and some sobbing<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 18:27:15</i><br /><hr />krig,

Two cookies for you for being able to avoid LonelyCrack for that long !<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 18:30:11</i><br /><hr />mary #737

If that happens we will certainly be needing an emergency session of LonelyCracks Anonymous tomorrow!  I'll start making another bundt cake...<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 18:32:16</i><br /><hr />BONES: what did it say? What did it say? !!!<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-09 18:34:41</i><br /><hr />Thanks NAXAN!  It was really difficult.  Being sick helped.  Anyway, now I've got my 2-day chip, but I don't think I'll be holding onto it for long!<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 18:36:38</i><br /><hr />Thanks all for the date update.  I was not reading the posts that far back - just watching :)
That was before the monkey got on my back.<br /><i>by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-09 18:37:07</i><br /><hr />ACakeMixWatcher,

Just don't feed that monkey after midnight (or get it wet) hehe...<br /><i>by NAXAN on 2006-12-09 18:41:25</i><br /><hr />HOLY CRAP!  We are almost at 800 comments!!  Have we ever passed 800?

ITS HIGH TIME FOR A NEW VIDEO!!

VIDEO!!  VIDEO!!  VIDEO!!<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-09 18:42:44</i><br /><hr />Well, as long as we are waiting around doing nothing, maybe we can get to 1000...

See, I have goals!<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 18:45:03</i><br /><hr />NAXAN, thanks for that reminder.<br /><i>by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-09 18:45:03</i><br /><hr />*refresh* Daniel's face
*refresh* Daniel's face
*refresh* Daniel's face
*refresh* Daniel's face
*refresh* Daniel's face

whimper...new video?<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 18:46:33</i><br /><hr />KRIG:that's funny here is my contribution: #747<br /><i>by TherealLilly on 2006-12-09 18:47:38</i><br /><hr />Green eye discussion:

You guys probably mentioned this (its hard to read through all the comments!)

But maybe they were speaking metaphorically about a green-eyed person - doesn't that mean a jealous person (green-eyed monster).

In that case the warning could pertain to Gemma.  She always seems to have underlying hostility/envy to Bree.<br /><i>by gnome on 2006-12-09 18:47:39</i><br /><hr />AHHH I need to stop hitting F5 and fricken study!  Damn you, Lonelycrack!!!!!!!!!!  Just give me the vid now, please???<br /><i>by CranberryApple on 2006-12-09 18:49:41</i><br /><hr />Gnome - when you go to the profile of the person who sent the message "utnbers-tutlaen" aka "untenable trust", the photo is of a green eye.

I did think of the correlation between the message and Gemma though... "While I am blue she is green"... someone commented the other day about Gemma always wearing blue, as well as the crazy blue of her eyes...<br /><i>by Perky on 2006-12-09 18:53:21</i><br /><hr />mary (send note) Says: 
December 7th, 2006 at 9:34 pm
Well, this isnâ€™t really about Jonas, but regarding trustâ€¦
BREE:
Your parents said to stay with Daniel.
Gemma says you should trust Daniel.
Jonas even says you should trust Daniel.
Wait.. someone said not to trust himâ€¦ that he didnâ€™t have your best interests in mindâ€¦ hmmmâ€¦ ah yes, LUCY, the woman who STOLE YOUR PARENTS.
So Iâ€™m thinking, maybe you should trust Daniel.

mary (send note) Says: 
December 7th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
And NO, before anyone gets confused, Thor did not say not to trust Daniel, but merely *may* have said that he didnâ€™t like Daniel. And bear (no pun) in mind that this was right after Daniel said he and Bree could eat the stuffed animals if they ran out of food.

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and i would also like to add, who's the only person who's ever given you flowers?  beautiful white ones in a vase?

all gemme got from the toady musician was a single red rose that wilted and died not even after the third date.  he probably bought if off a guy on the street on his way to pick her up.<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 18:57:24</i><br /><hr />Is it midnight yet??? *sigh*<br /><i>by heather on 2006-12-09 18:59:53</i><br /><hr />Just a thought. Did anybody notice Tachyon's video "mysteries of my past revealed.." and Gemma's video "scared to go home". In Tachyon's video, I could swear that I saw Gemma. The girl in the video has a black coat and jean's on and is holding a purse like Gemma's from her video "Daniel is right". Let me know what you all think. Hmmmm...maybe I'm wrong...or maybe not. Take a look.<br /><i>by beeboo on 2006-12-09 19:02:41</i><br /><hr />WOW, AWESOME, WHAT A LAUNCH.....ORANGE SLURPEES ALL AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-09 19:03:53</i><br /><hr />*sighs*.....VIDEO..PLEASE NOW!!!..and I bet its going to be like 30 seconds long...Can it at least be creepy PLEASE<br /><i>by Pretty_Mely22 on 2006-12-09 19:06:30</i><br /><hr />Anyone want to take any bets as to if this is the end?

What will the authors do next?<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-09 19:09:17</i><br /><hr />Just watched ApotheosisAZ's Real Men of Genius! video.  Hi-larious!  If you haven't seen it yet, go watch.  When you come back, it will be closer to midnight.  I promise.<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 19:14:19</i><br /><hr />Was just thinking about all of us sitting around the Lcrack pipe... It reminded me of the old Chicago song "25 or 6 to 4" (this will surly date me). Not that song had anything to do with durgs, but just the thought of "waiting for the break of day, Searching for something to say"... "wanting just stay awake, Wondering how much I can take, Should I try to do some more?"<br /><i>by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-09 19:17:06</i><br /><hr />I don't think it will happen at midnight. Just some time tomorrow. On the other hand, why can't the people who make these things live on the EAST cost?<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-09 19:18:38</i><br /><hr />Wow, ACakeMixWatcher, maybe that should be our LonelyCrack motto!<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 19:18:54</i><br /><hr />ACakeMixWatcher, I was thinking about the Chicago song, "Does anyone really know what time it is?" :)<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-09 19:20:23</i><br /><hr />Usually I post pretty regularly when a video comes up, but I've been purposefully abstaining.

That's because I think this vote thing is a silly idea. First thing, no offense, but I've never seen  a post by Holly. How did she get chosen? Is she just a stooge from the Creators, or does she have a different forum &amp; comment page name. Totally possible.

But mostly I feel that the Creators have been wanting us to be on board for B&amp;D to go to Jonas's house for some time, but don't want to jump the gun when so many of us are still unwilling to see it happen. To this I say:

Creators,

We have questioned the choices you have made in the past, but have always loved the direction of the story. Even though most of us can't see why on earth a rational person would go and stay with Jonas, I'm sure you have your reasons, and we can all suspend belief long enough to see where your decision takes us. You've earned our trust. This is your story. We help add little tidbits, but ultimately, we trust where you choose to take the story any day over our silly musings. This vote/contest is unnecessary!<br /><i>by physphile on 2006-12-09 19:21:01</i><br /><hr />physphile, Holly spends lots of time in chat.<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-09 19:23:12</i><br /><hr />physphile,

GoodGollyitsHolly has been a regular in the forums
for sometime.

Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 1795
Location: The edge of my credit limit! for sometime.

Why she was chosen I don't know, she says she was as surprised as anyone when Daniel contacted her.<br /><i>by robtomorrow on 2006-12-09 19:28:40</i><br /><hr />GoodGollyItsHolly is a popular fan in the forums, known for her silly posts and quirky responses. She is a big Jonas fan,and her current location is in Jonas' bed. She has left several posts on the boards and the forums since she was picked by Daniel confirming that she was taking fans' input.

http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=GoodGollyItsHolly

HIS BED....LOL......go LGpedia:)<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-09 19:30:11</i><br /><hr />hahaha i love Chicago :) 

sooo... while i was... working on my paper... i found one of those "lonelygirl media whore" videos and watched it.  i hadn't seen one before, but it just showed her on Jay Leno and then MTV.  i haven't seen either of those interviews; i didn't even know she went on Jay Leno.  but apparently she admitted her name was not bree but jessica and she was not 16 but 19 (and Jay says "then I'm not so creepy for talking to you!  ha ha."  yes you are, Jay.  yes you are.)
and then some dude (?) comes out and dances w. Jess and they dance away... 

um so i'm not sure what the point of this post is... except to say that Jay Leno is a creepy, dirty old man who i think is racist.  at least he only shook Jess' hand.  i was afraid he was going to try to hug her *shudder*<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 19:31:58</i><br /><hr />ACakeMixeWatcher (#759) 

Omigod, that song had EVERYTHING to do with drugs!!!!

Okay, so LSD, or Lysergic Acid Diethylamide, is also known as LSD-25. Or at least some variant is - it was discovered by a Swiss man, hence the reason the letters don't quite match up.

Anyways, so in the Chicago song when the singer says "25 or 6 to 4" he is debating whether he should take another hit of acid - 25 - or give up and go to bed - since it's six to 4'o'clock in the morning.<br /><i>by physphile on 2006-12-09 19:32:18</i><br /><hr />lol modelmotion... his bed... that's great.  i wonder who wrote that<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 19:35:19</i><br /><hr />Oh, I forgot to say before, gemmas flatmate, I'm so glad your daughter is feeling better!<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 19:37:49</i><br /><hr />There's a new Nikki Bower vid on YouTube.<br /><i>by Spiletta42 on 2006-12-09 19:38:24</i><br /><hr />physphile,

Of course that was the popular speculation the day, but the author of the song claims that he was only thinking about the problems of a song writer trying to come up with a lyric, and it is taking all night and now it is 25 or (2)6 to 4 in the morning...<br /><i>by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-09 19:41:14</i><br /><hr />Also, 

Alot of people have been saying that even though it is an obvious trap, B&amp;D should go to Jonas's house since it is the only way to move the plot along.

First, after reading that if I were Daniel - and if Daniel were real, yadda, yadda - I would realize I had made a big mistake entrusting my life to this vote.

Second, that is entirely untrue. There are plenty of ways the plot could move forward, going to Jonas's house is just one.

They could get captured by that Order goon hanging out behind the trash can. They could ask Daniel's parents for help - a choice that seems to have been eliminated without any satifactory explanation, I may reiterate. 

They could catch a watcher guy and shake him down for answers. They could go to a public library and start doing some research like Gemma did.

They could find the tracking device in the stuffed animals. They could go back to Lucy's and try to find info on the parents. 

They could go back to the summer camp. They could go back to the ceremony site and watch for activity. They could try to look for Cassie and see if she has some answers.

They could beg for money from strangers - hey, it's close to Christmas and people are feeling generous - and then hop a bus out of town. Daniel could get a job as a musician &amp; Bree could work at the Woolworth store (Naci Griffith, anyone?)

They could ... anyways, I've made my point. Be creative people! The world's not black &amp; white, and no use sending a lamb to the slaughter for your own amusement!<br /><i>by physphile on 2006-12-09 19:45:32</i><br /><hr />Well, it looks like SOMETHING will happen tomorrow..the latest Tachyon profile update says this:

To my "Brother" :

Tonight and tomorrow, things shall come into focus.<br /><i>by krig on 2006-12-09 19:47:07</i><br /><hr />physphile,

Just went and did a "sanity check" and found this:
www.straightdope.com/mailbag/m25or6to4.html<br /><i>by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-09 19:47:17</i><br /><hr />As far as i can tell it was written by OwenIsCool.  Good sense of humor.........lol.....but the rumors are now spinning.<br /><i>by modelmotion on 2006-12-09 19:52:08</i><br /><hr />New vid Your decision.<br /><i>by ralfthedog on 2006-12-09 19:54:35</i><br /><hr />775 ACakeMixWatcher- "sanity check"- that's a great phrase!!  i do those all the time myself but never knew they had a name!

:)<br /><i>by mary on 2006-12-09 19:58:15</i><br /><hr />IAFN MFOO SERW...
ISLFI ATLRD... MIAA
TNORM. HKUE AYDA
TNOOS. HKUN AYBE
IAATLP. AFIOE MRDSE<br /><i>by SOLEP ONEHM MEAEE. EPSL on 2006-12-09 20:01:41</i><br /><hr />mary,

Sanity is something that get harder to get a grasp on each day for me...<br /><i>by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-12-09 20:02:29</i><br /><hr />Translation of # 779

IM SAFE FOR NOW
I AM STILL AFRAID
THANK YOU DREAM
THANK YOU BONES
I AM AFRAID TO SLEEP<br /><i>by beeboo on 2006-12-10 09:06:54</i><br /><hr />######################LAST!#######################<br /><i>by Slainte on 2006-12-17 15:53:41</i><br /><hr />Last last<br /><i>by EricaRocks on 2007-03-01 21:12:36</i><br /><hr />Gratz on the goatee, Daniel!<br /><i>by superdude on 2007-08-16 13:56:48</i><br /><hr />I r last. :]<br /><i>by Lala Courtney on 2007-09-03 19:17:09</i><br /><hr />don't trust gemma or jonas! they're so strange. how'd they even get involved in the first place. out of nowhere they start posting along with cassie. this show is intense. wish i saw it as it was coming out
       l
ps. v you're not last, i am. :o)<br /><i>by xc_beautyqueen on 2007-10-12 09:26:44</i><br /><hr />kinda corny bit about only trusting you *crinkles nose* but it a vlog series so I suppose it makes sense.<br /><i>by knotbox on 2007-10-25 20:48:40</i><br /><hr />TRUST HIM!<br /><i>by awesome1018 on 2007-11-24 18:08:53</i><br /><hr />lol this is a very cute example of how fake this<br /><i>by rissa406 on 2008-01-27 02:59:39</i><br /><hr />Umm....I am still not so sure.

Shonder~

Ps. I won't be posting comments for a while. I hope that is alright.<br /><i>by fiddlefingers90 on 2008-03-13 08:25:40</i><br /><hr /></td></tr><table></center>