| first by othail on 2006-11-21 17:53:29 AAahhh FIRST by Georgia on 2006-11-21 17:53:42 fun by modelmotion on 2006-11-21 17:54:21 Ok, why does he look like he has lipstick on? See, this is what I meant before, he is getting angry and soon will force Bree to take action by Georgia on 2006-11-21 17:55:42 I had a hard time making out what was said at the end. maybe my speakers here at work. Did he say "My life's gone"?, and after that what did Bree say ? by voyboy on 2006-11-21 17:57:27 top ten? by tamig on 2006-11-21 17:58:41 This is GREAT! Daniel is the only one that makes sense at all in any videos. Okay maybe thats not true but he just answered most of the questions I have been asking. by Karebee on 2006-11-21 17:59:07 wow top ten This video was boring by Sim7lizard on 2006-11-21 17:59:15 Why is Daniel wearing lipstick? by Dannie717 on 2006-11-21 17:59:34 voyboy (send note) Says: November 21st, 2006 at 5:57 pm I had a hard time making out what was said at the end. maybe my speakers here at work. Did he say “My life’s gone�, and after that what did Bree say ? Bree said well what about my life and then he said he just wishes things would go back to normal by Karebee on 2006-11-21 18:00:51 voyboy - she says "what about my life?" by Georgia on 2006-11-21 18:01:01 maybe he was weraing lipstick because they are so bored bree is putting due in her hair and putting makeup on Daniels... Have we seen Daniels nails yet??? :) by Karebee on 2006-11-21 18:02:04 nice white facial hair, dan dan. by teffie on 2006-11-21 18:02:11 i can't watch it.. D: by drbrenda on 2006-11-21 18:02:21 Greorgia, I think Yousef's lips are chapped/or wind burned. That's what happens to me too. Man do I get crap from people at work when it does! by voyboy on 2006-11-21 18:02:27 due should be dye... I guess I'm a little excited lol by Karebee on 2006-11-21 18:03:23 I can definitley identify with Daniel on this one. Bree is being so selfish, "What about MY life?" It seems to me that Daniel has given up way more than he really had to in order to take care of Bree. She isn't taking it seriously enough, and she's not being grateful enough. A thank you is in order. by squirrelgirl on 2006-11-21 18:04:31 Good video. by Iris2009 on 2006-11-21 18:09:03 Dammit, I'm hating this new logging in thing. I'm glad Daniel finally made a post that explained some things. He needs to shave that chin. It makes his face look silly. by rachel on 2006-11-21 18:10:30 Daniel FINNALY talked about his life!! Awww its a really sad video though :( by Schreiber on 2006-11-21 18:11:08 Finally, a little real looking angst between these guys! I agree with #7, Daniel is the more level-headed, but I would like a little better scrip writing from the Creators... He answers some of your questions all right, but it sounds like he is reading directly from your post... Why these answers now? by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-11-21 18:12:53 I have to give Jessica some kudos on her acting. It may be subtle to some but it's very realistic. She does an exceptional job at playing a 16yr old who is intellectually above average yet emotionally 11yo or 12yo (Good job Jess!!). by voyboy on 2006-11-21 18:19:16 the poor guy... it's got to be sooo frustrating when you've taken responsibility for someone else and don't have a clue what to do next, safely. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 18:19:25 Seems as though things are getting more believable, at least we know how he's allowed to run around and not worry about parents. But I agree- both Bree and Daniel have 'gone through so much'- 'bout time they show the strain. by LimeAkane on 2006-11-21 18:20:41 FFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!11!!!!!!1 by General Firstsayer on 2006-11-21 18:21:12 top 50? by robin on 2006-11-21 18:22:20 So even if his parents aren't really hands on...can't Bree and Daniel still ask them for help? I would think his parents would be concerned enough to help him out in a dangerous situation. I don't get why they aren't doing something about Bree's parents. Do they really believe that they can live in a motel room for ever? I think that part of the story line is too far off base. by Maddy on 2006-11-21 18:22:46 Great vid! by N2PTF on 2006-11-21 18:24:03 Poor Daniel... They need to start looking for Bree's parents. Stop sitting around the hotel room and go out there and do something! Yea they are being followed but they need to get out there and do something!! TAKE ACTION DANIEL! Either Bree is with you or not!! by Katelyn on 2006-11-21 18:25:10 Yea that would have pissed me off too...Some guy who gets a girl out of a place, he's paying for hotels, they are both in danger, and Bree is saying it was a STUFFED ANIMAL'S idea to make it all fun, and treating this like its some kind of game....yea, if I was him I would've at least wanted sex or left her to get captured. by 707clique on 2006-11-21 18:25:17 Why is Bree ragging on Owen now? That's unfair. First she says he lies about the Turtle Olympics, when he clearly just overstated (he won bronze), and now she blames him for her rather light-hearted last video. So unfair! by Broken Kid on 2006-11-21 18:26:56 hahaha "it was Owen's idea"! ? by Nat on 2006-11-21 18:29:12 well - first thing first - what's up with the lipstick??? secend - i think he is right... after all bree draged him all the way to no where. and he is a good boy, he is in love with her and that's how she repay him? GIVE HIM A NIGHT TO REMEMBER , BREE ! S E X H I M U P :-) by robin on 2006-11-21 18:29:37 Cool video. I kept staring at his lips, though. Daniel, you really need to shave. It's distracting! I also don't understand why they're not doing anything besides sitting around in motels. They're not even looking. And even if they can't tell the police, why can't they tell Daniel's parents? by Ferra on 2006-11-21 18:29:50 Karebee said (#12): maybe he was weraing lipstick because they are so bored bree is putting due in her hair and putting makeup on Daniels… Have we seen Daniels nails yet??? I wouldn't put it past Bree to do this... And Daniel is so long suffering that he would probably play along. More likely though, the production of these videos is getting so "big-time" now that they have hired a make-up person. Too bad they can't afford to hire a good one. by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-11-21 18:31:23 Let me get this straight: Bree, a 16-year-old girl, has missing (and possibly dead) parents. Daniel, an 18-year-old boy, has been away from home for several days with no contact with his family of any kind. Both have been on the road for several days, racking up hundreds of dollars in motel, food and gas bills. so, naturally, they...hang out in motel rooms and make videos with stuffed animals and pouty faces? are you frickin' kidding me? by Danie1beast on 2006-11-21 18:31:28 It's good to hear from Daniel. (He just needs to shave his chin) Daniel needs to take charge and Bree needs to tell him about the ceremony prep, etc. to help them figure out what to do. by pandora on 2006-11-21 18:32:39 :-( im sad...i hope they make up or daniel walks out then five minutes later comes back saying he could never leave bree but i agree bree needs to realize all hes done for her by sydney on 2006-11-21 18:35:52 I say bree at least should offer him some SEX :-) by robin on 2006-11-21 18:37:23 This means brothers message is for Daniel!! This is all becoming one story... that's exciting. by Anne_ on 2006-11-21 18:38:06 lol I just thought of something...what if it's not lipstick? What if he was just drinking a... ... SLURPEE?! by Ferra on 2006-11-21 18:38:39 that video was also very short i hope we dont have to wait too long for another one...it didnt even really seem like a new video did anyone else notice in motel one it was rly dark and dreary...yet they had a pretty good relationship and stuff then when they get 2 motel 2 where its much brighter and happier yet theyre relatiionship kinda is going downhill idk prly reading too much into it but i thought th epattern was interesting by sydney on 2006-11-21 18:38:53 Daniel is NOT wearing lipstick. -_- jeez lol it's just from the light. Anyway, hmm...i kinda understand how both of them feel at the moment. It's not as harsh as this situation..but i've been in something like it. In a way i guess i can relate! by xoxalli16xox on 2006-11-21 18:39:14 anne...what was the message from brother? fill us in?? please? i caught up on most o fthe opaphid/tachyon/brother stuff a while ago but im still not quite grasping it by sydney on 2006-11-21 18:40:12 Does anyone know why Bree is so secretive about this religion? Why isn't she more concerned about her parents? Where did Gemma go? I thought she and Bree were so tight and we don't hear anything from her even after the "Fleeing th watcher" vid?!? by Maddy on 2006-11-21 18:40:22 Enough with the sex suggestions, this is not a porno. by LimeAkane on 2006-11-21 18:41:00 Maybe the lipstick is from Bree's lips... by ACakeMixWatcher on 2006-11-21 18:43:34 I can really understand daniels point of view.... he gave up what he had always dreamed of to help his not even girlfriend escape people who might not be worth escaping? And yes he said, my life is gone, and she said, what about mine? that is a very petty and selfish response.... she should be grateful for him. Also... is she being serious when she said 'may i add the survival skills thing is all owens(was it owen or thor?) idea." thats very childish, and verging on brain damage. I know i am being harsh..but i need to be this is getting ridiculous. by Allamericangirl on 2006-11-21 18:45:45 That's right Daniel...it's time to just give it up and go back home. It's the only thing you can do if you want some semblance of a normal life again. We promise you Brees sacrifice will be quick and painless and your life will then go back to the way it was. It is wise to obey THE ORDER Daniel! THE ORDER by THE ORDER on 2006-11-21 18:50:18 Does anyone even see my posts? by Maddy on 2006-11-21 18:50:46 I'm glad they finally addressed the tension that inevitably builds up when two people spend every waking moment together! by N2PTF on 2006-11-21 18:50:57 maddy...i saw them! and good point where did gemma go? i can see some mailman or her "flatmate" finding her dropped dead in her apartment with a slurpee in hand by sydney on 2006-11-21 18:54:08 Sorry maddy... I was about to respond...... dont feel unwanted. by Allamericangirl on 2006-11-21 18:54:45 I just wasn't sure if they were getting through. I wasn't trying to come acrossed as pushy just frustrated :-) by Maddy on 2006-11-21 18:57:24 daniel is all like 'i don't want to talk to Bree' and she is sitting RIGHT THERE. they are kinda stuck together for now, maybe they should try to get along better? things will just get more complicated. just a thought... by bouncingupanddown on 2006-11-21 18:59:28 my situation: my family been missing for days, might be dead or in trouble, and i have no way of contacting them. my response: hang out and read in motel rooms and make silly videos with my stuffed animals. by Danie1beast on 2006-11-21 19:01:27 Heres a note, nobody CARES if your first. If your gonna say something, please make it relevant. Anyways. That was a bit harsh of Daniel to record that right in front of her. Then again I can tell how Bree is getting on his nerves, with her constantly making it seem like her stuffed animals are real... by Samantha on 2006-11-21 19:01:44 Bree says: i can't try and contact or find my parents, because...it might put them in danger. so, i'll post videos to the Internet explaining all of this in great detail to thousands of people. but i won't call the Police, notify anybody else, or worry too much. by Danie1beast on 2006-11-21 19:03:02 One of our Deacons looked at your video some more and has recognized the motel you're in. The congressma...I mean Deacon had been there with a young Intern a few weeks ago. So just sit tight Daniel and Bree, we're on our way! :) by THE ORDER on 2006-11-21 19:09:13 The survival skills report was Owen the stuffed turles idea??? LMAO! That's why i love this show. This should serve as a dire warning to NEVER home-school your children. They wind up as retards no matter how attractive they become. And I happen to know this from personal experience so i can relate with Daniel in alot of ways. :P Poor Bree. LOL. by ravenblues on 2006-11-21 19:09:23 so...hey guys..im new to all that LG15 thing..Im from brazil and so far im loving it...on my college break i saw all the videos so far and all i can say is poor Daniel... I mean I feel sad and know that Bree is not in a good situation and I know she must be pretty worried about her parents...but she is not much of an action person if you know what I mean..she is used to be locked in a room with her stuffed animals and a computer..Daniel is not and he is getting crazy and worried, both their lifes are in danger now. Honestly i think they should try to find her parents before its too late for them and Daniel should tell his parents what is going on. by sweetcarol on 2006-11-21 19:09:42 i think something more exciting needs to happen. they run away. then sit in a motel room. run some more. then sit in another motel. i don't know where this story is going... by bouncingupanddown on 2006-11-21 19:13:28 ok... THE ORDER... SHUT UP why would a congressman be at that motel? ur not even funny if thats what ur tryin to do by yoshi8710 on 2006-11-21 19:13:34 Ok I havn't watched the video yet but I have to post something before the rest of you 200 hundred people get there before I do! By the way this is aka GoByu21. Go cougars! Ok I'm watching video now.... by That_one_girl on 2006-11-21 19:17:29 First of all, I love that they're answering our questions. I had parents kind of like Daniel's. Once I got to a certain age (which wasn't 18, it was actually younger, probably 16), my parents kind of stopped keeping track of me. Not because they didn't care, but because they trusted me and figured I was the low maintenance kid so I could look after myself enough to make the right decisions. I think Daniel's good and tired of being a babysitter. I don't blame him. He has no idea what's going on and Bree's not being very forthcoming. He left behind school and a normal life to save her butt and she's apparently still staying mum about the details of what went on in the faux ceremony and the facts about the cult. And the "what about my life?" question... Um, Bree, you chose to participate in this. Maybe it was your parents who got you involved in the order, but you chose to ignore Daniel's warnings until everything hit the fan and NOW you're in too deep. It's a little frustrating. I love Bree's character, but she never seemed so shallow and childish as she is in this video. She needs to give us a reason for keeping mum. I need to know why she's still stuck on keeping the secrets of people who may or may not be stalking her and who definitely took her parents into their custody. And I need to know why she's not doing anything to find out what happened to them. by Lizard on 2006-11-21 19:17:30 lol, he says he wanted to go to a filming school, then it has an add for a camcorder bree and daniel should make up then thety go outside... and theres a bunch of those guys from the matrix, and they start fighting eachother bree films while daniel gives them karate kicks and stuff that would be exciting! by yoshi8710 on 2006-11-21 19:17:35 ok.... my mom was watching the news, and i finally found out that lonelygirl15 bree is a FAKE!!! ITS ALL SET UP AND I DIDNT KNOW THAT...JEEZ!!! THEREA RE PRODUCERS AND EVERYTHING....GOH..... i am so upset right now.. by jcgirl28 on 2006-11-21 19:17:38 Yeah i think Bree's mental slowness explains her inability to cope with reality. That's why she has these stuffed animals (and the camera) to talk to because she barely had any friends and is doing the same thing Tom Hanks did in Castaway when he ended up talking to Wilson all the time due to being so isolated. Bree is in a sad state of denial and is unable to express her true fears and thoughts about the situation because it is likely too unbearable for her to even think about it hence her outer behavior of acting like everything is hunky dory when inside she is a mess. This is a good psychological study of a very troubled mentally ill young woman. She's still cute though. :) by ravenblues on 2006-11-21 19:18:19 Incidentally, if they tell Daniel's seemingly hand's off parents, what do you suppose they'll do? Probably call the police, if anything, right? And the police are in on it. Say your kid tells you there's a cult after him and the police and the judges are all in on it... Are you going to believe that or are you going to institutionalize your kid and put him on meds? by Lizard on 2006-11-21 19:21:41 *Ponders* Could it be that there is some of a small speaker inside of Owen? But Daniel doesn't get close enough to the stuffed animals, so only Bree hears it? The Deacons could be using it to communicate with Bree... But this would mean that Bree might be still working with the Order, and is using Daniel, which isn't an option I like to consider. I'd really like to see some sort of vid Thursday of them eating a really skimpy meal and trying to pass it for Thanksgiving dinner - or possibly just Daniel eating it if Bree has never celebrated Thanksgiving - and talking about what they miss about their regular life. I want to know more about what they did before everything went crazy, if we can't know more about what's going on now. by Angela on 2006-11-21 19:24:22 So--in this fictional universe, everybody except perhaps Bree, Daniel and Gemma are part of a global, secret cult? yeah, i'm suspending my disbelief. sure. by Danie1beast on 2006-11-21 19:25:00 Ditto to Lizard! by That_one_girl on 2006-11-21 19:25:23 I really think that the admins should look into the mechanisms of username registration a bit more closely. by Lizard on 2006-11-21 19:25:35 It really does seem like the Creators are listening to what we say...this video answered a lot of the questions we'd been posting, as well as answering the demand for a Daniel vid :-P I agree that she's being pretty selfish, but then again it's all she knows. She's grown up isolated with her parents and all she has ever had to think about was herself. I feel for Daniel, he set out to do what he thought was the right thing, but they've had no communication from the outside world confirming or denying whether they are doing the right thing. I'm sure he feels pretty lost. by JB on 2006-11-21 19:27:31 Yoshi, If you're so clueless that you don't know what congressmen do at hotels with hot young interns, I won't waste my time trying to tell you. Stay put Daniel...we're just about there. :) by THE ORDER on 2006-11-21 19:30:17 Wow, I'm glad that Daniel, at least, is taking the whole thing seriously. by PaleNovember527 on 2006-11-21 19:30:42 Hmmm.... I'm wondering.... In that note from her parents... when they told her to go with Daniel.. could that note also have said, 'but don't tell him anything for his own safety!'? by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 19:31:50 looky, this site is hosted on a server in south central Texas, and shot in southern California. by Danie1beast on 2006-11-21 19:32:00 Wow comments are coming slow today. I've never seen a video where the comments hadn't already reached around 150. Of course, I also got here early. ANYWAY... my only frustration with LG15 is the inconsistent flow. The... kid who doesn't know how to use a stick shift stalling the car out every several feet, ten shooting forward, then stalling again... sort of thing. I guess it makes it more realistic? I dunno. This did answer some good questions, but like... really unimportant questions from people who like to bring up things to try to poke wholes in stuff. Not that I have anythign against those people, i'd do it too if they hadn't always already beaten me to it. Point is, though... nothing particularly applicable to the theorists or the... interesting-ness. by Cuyler on 2006-11-21 19:32:31 ooh, under 100 :O Daniel, you rawk. Hang in there. Be nice to Bree, be patient with your situation. Love the vid, very realistic. by Morgan on 2006-11-21 19:33:15 i also wish things would get back to normal by tayduh1987 on 2006-11-21 19:35:00 Daniel should do somethingg! by PaleNovember527 on 2006-11-21 19:38:00 lizard, (#63) that makes a lot of sense plus it sound slike he kinda has to be the adult alot...taking care of himself and such...and now he has to take care of another person too? yea itd be alot to handle. also, it almost seems like bree is going into a relapse...shes acting soo much more childish than ever...maybe a side affect of the lack of injections and pills? by sydney on 2006-11-21 19:39:55 maybe bree will wake up and daniel will be gone shell think something happened and freak out then he'll come back and it will turn out he jsut went for gas or something in case they have to make a run for it then shell be so happy that hes ok she'll be like "im sry for everything" and theyll make up then have a really cute thankgiving meal where she says how shes thankful that she has someone like him and theyll be all cute and kiss or something wow i have wayyyyy too much time on my hands :-( by sydney on 2006-11-21 19:44:20 *goes to lonely corner for feeling stupid and curses the creators for not creating a "delete my comment" button* by sydney on 2006-11-21 19:45:15 Raven blues thats very stupid of you. and a bit hurtful I am homeschooled, and have been my entire life. I am not a retard, i am very intelligent and well socialized. I agree homeschooling has been labeled "Hicks school" But there are some very good programs, I am an online homeschooler. Research before you speak/type. by Allamericangirl on 2006-11-21 19:46:41 #66 ravensblue mentioned Wilson the Volleyball from the Tom Hanks movie Castaway. Am I a freak or was anyone else on the verge of tears when Wilson floated away? by gnome on 2006-11-21 19:50:37 Oh yes i was blubbering, i loved wilson. by Allamericangirl on 2006-11-21 19:51:16 *walks over and gives sydney a hug and says, "it's okay. we all say and do things that embarrass us sometimes"* *sydney wrestles free and says, "get off of me you creep!"* *both laugh because sometimes it's just crazy like that. yeah, we're all crazy like that* by wastinghope on 2006-11-21 19:51:38 Wilson was his only friend for 4 years, that created a bond with him, which created a bond with us, so i was pretty much depressive through the rest of the movie... it is a very sad movie. by Allamericangirl on 2006-11-21 19:52:11 Damn, now I miss Wilson. by Allamericangirl on 2006-11-21 19:53:27 i know its hard but daniel and bree need to stay together..they only have each other now. by sweetcarol on 2006-11-21 19:53:46 Ok, comment 71 wasn't from me, which is obviously someone's point. by Lizard on 2006-11-21 19:58:21 looks like, from the down time, someone's been investigating the server who shouldn't be......... by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 21:07:23 i dont like this video. maybe because mr daniel of the ruby-grapefruit lipstick needs to dye or get rid of his blonde soul patch. daniel and bree HAVE to do something cute for tanksgiving. *walks over to sydney and says "it's ok. have a slurpee!"* *sydney screams and runs away* *shrugs and gives the slurpee to gemma* by Grace on 2006-11-21 21:07:27 Incidentally, if member five hundred and whatever posts again, THAT'S NOT ME. Whoever that was copied my username and my profile. I'm member 80, I was in the wave of the first people to register. If a Lizard posts something offensive, you'll know now it wasn't me. *sigh* This sucks. I hate losers who have nothing better to do than steal internet identities. by Lizard on 2006-11-21 21:08:21 Yay!! A daniel video. :) Ok... daniel shave that thing you have growing on your chin. .looks weird. lol by Ennovi on 2006-11-21 21:15:09 I couldnt access the site for a while Did this happen to anyone else? by Rolland on 2006-11-21 21:16:30 Its about time Daniel spoke out. I think they should just go and stay with his parents. I'm sure they would be fine. Bree needs to start speaking up about what she knows. Daniel is putting his whole life on hold and its time she gets honest! She better kiss some butt because without Daniel she has nobody. What is she runs off by herself? She'd get caught for sure! by SuzyQS on 2006-11-21 21:19:42 yeah, me too Rolland. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 21:20:10 Rolland: Yes! I tried to come to the site awhile ago and it was like it didn't exist! I thought that maybe "the community" had gotten it! by SuzyQS on 2006-11-21 21:22:13 the cracks are showing. now they need some close encounter to repair the bionds between them. either story related (the watcher, the helper maybe) or maybe one of them storms off and the other gets worried. then the stormer comes back, finds the stormee gone, & the stormer gets worried. they both run around frantically searching for each other. then they have a emotional reunion and vow to never get so angry at one another. by Lureman on 2006-11-21 21:23:33 Why did you have to bring up Wilson. I didn't cry when my own father died, but I cried when Wilson floated away. I'm think I'm going to start crying now. THANKS A LOT! by Joe on 2006-11-21 21:23:35 Hey, For whoever asked, the message from brother is on the voicemail if you call the number 310-933-5901 it's been up for a few days so it's obviously from the creators otherwise he wouldn't have known about the JC classes and the camping excuse. so obviously the goal here is to get brother and sister to whereever bree and daniel are so they can escape opaphid together. how to do this... hmmmm... if only these people watched each other's videos.. by Anne_ on 2006-11-21 21:25:21 Daniles not wearing lipstick! he has a cold sore from messing around with bree all night and sleeping in sleezy hotels! hahaha JK lol yea this motel is a definate upgrade from the last one they were sleeping in =P by OLIVIA on 2006-11-21 21:25:45 This was a good video. Really good. It kind of reminded me of the breakfast club. You know the problems with the parents, dealing with your emotions, etc. Nice acting and lines all the way through. by Rolland on 2006-11-21 21:26:25 I thought the point of creating an account was so that no one could post comments using someone elses name. And why was this site down? And Why was Daniel wearing lipstick? And why is it when ever something goes wrong they feel the need to blame P. Monkey, Owen, or Thor? WHAT IS GOING ON! I hate to say this, but I miss Gemma. by Joe on 2006-11-21 21:28:06 Maybe if you didn't bitch so much, things would be a little better. She is only trying to make the best out of what she's got. Any way you answered a couple of things that were bothering me about the show. by spitz719 on 2006-11-21 21:28:12 The P Mokey videos are funny. I guess there are a lot of people with time on their hands. I wish there was Target in Canada so I could buy P monkey! by SuzyQS on 2006-11-21 21:29:05 :P by SuzyQS on 2006-11-21 21:29:56 I'm wondering if it's possible that, at this point, they're both suffering some form of stress disorder or reaction from everything that's gone on.. and it's showing in their reactions to each other and the situation. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 21:30:59 Yay! I am loving this! LOVING! Daniel is pissed and it's awsome! For the first time, I feel like I am watching a full human being. He basically gave up his life for Bree, so of course he is angry. I also love Bree's childish comment about how Owen suggested the "Survival Skills" video. Exposing that flaw gives her so much depth. This is what I call dramatic tension! I am looking forward to seeing Bree and Daniel develop from here.....yay! by luckydog1826 on 2006-11-21 21:31:24 dang. 10 posts in the time it took me to log on. i like your idea #100. anyway, i think maybe bree has some schizophrenic disorder, or problem where she really thinks her animals are real. and it really was owen's idea. by cherkahn on 2006-11-21 21:33:47 anyone care to explain to me who "brother and sister" are? by EmmaLee on 2006-11-21 21:36:41 Bree, Nessie really really really misses you. When you ascend you will be able to pass thru the Gate and visit her in the homeland. by modelmotion on 2006-11-21 21:37:01 Maybe Daniel and Bree are suffering from cabin fever. They're just showing different symptons. Lizard (The real Lizard), Is Dr. Nick available to make a house call? Or in this case a motel call. by Joe on 2006-11-21 21:37:08 oh my god i cried sooo much w/ the wilson thing an di never cry in movies....ever my aunt produced that movie (aka free dvd = why i watched it) lol i thought id stick that in there by sydney on 2006-11-21 21:37:49 #66: ravenblues, I couldn't agree more. Well...I could agree more, but that would make me obsessive... by Moondoogle on 2006-11-21 21:38:04 "I thought the point of creating an account was so that no one could post comments using someone elses name." Yeah, that's working out well. :P Ah well. I suppose the Girl Scouts don't like me divulging their secrets. *shifty eyes* They could be watching me right now... Singing their songs of doom, "Make new friends... But keep the old, one is silver and the other's gold..." by Lizard on 2006-11-21 21:38:41 Daniel is being a little drastic about his life being ruined! I know its not the best time but still its not ruined. Maybe he and Bree should just change their names get married and this whole thing will all blow over and things will work out fine by Brunken on 2006-11-21 21:39:05 Did I mention that I love this video? by luckydog1826 on 2006-11-21 21:39:20 Joe, Housecall, motel call, booty call... Dr. Nick is a whore for the green stuff. And not money... jello. by Lizard on 2006-11-21 21:40:18 o and btw today i wa sin english....paying attention of course :-\...anyways idk what she was talking abotu but she said somthing abotu staying with an artist friend that lived in scotland and had graduated from the university of edinburgh is she evil? i dont think i shoudl take my chances....after the break, im boycotting 1st period by sydney on 2006-11-21 21:40:41 fake lizard i was just thinking about that song and how it could be relevant LOL gold = alchemy? lol by sydney on 2006-11-21 21:42:13 Allamericangirl and Raven blues: Homeschooled isn't the problem. Homeschooled by crazy cultists, however . . . problem. The characters seem pretty real in this. It's different from the common fictional response, in which the alleged ordinary people become action heroes overnight, and the plot points come right after the other, without time for boredom and confused emotional reactions. The pacing of this project is different than anything that's been done before, and that's interesting. As for the lipstick illusion -- I think it's most likely an illusion, but there's also the possibility that Bree put makeup on him while he was napping or something, and he doesn't even know it. Then again, he edits the vids, so probably not. Windburn also makes perfect sense, as does the slurpee theory, interestingly enough. by Spiletta42 on 2006-11-21 21:42:37 thats supposed to say "about" not "abotu" by sydney on 2006-11-21 21:42:47 i dont know about u but i want another jonas video *sigh* by sydney on 2006-11-21 21:44:37 I love Daniel. Really, I do! Finally some background on him. It's nice to see someone FINALLY show some concern for something other than this very moment. He was taking classes that he's obviously missed too much of to get credit for, and that's sad. I'd like to see the kids do something for Thanksgiving, though I could see Gemma posting a lame video about how she doesn't understand the tradition or something like that. LAme, lame, lame. I'm glad that Daniel is frustrated- openly. Maybe Bree will take things more seriously now. And... is there no concern over the whereabouts of her parents? I would think that even though his parent's aren't the "hand's on" type that they would help him out if he was in a position so dangerous that he couldn't even approach the authorities about it. by Haley on 2006-11-21 21:45:47 i agree with #38.... the dude is in love with her.... and she doesn't even notice it... its the least she culd do.... she culdve at least kissed him for the flowers!!! i mean SERIOUSLY!! by aspen on 2006-11-21 21:46:00 good thinking, sydney. Could work as a dedication to Bree. "make new friends"- Daniel- "but keep the old"- cult. "One is silver"- Daniel- "but the other's gold"- the cult is better. ;) by Lizard on 2006-11-21 21:46:09 Two things. 1) Technicaly this is all Daniel's fault. He was the one who made Bree question her religion. Then stalked Bree and a lot of other things which forced her to chose between him or her religion. 2) If the cult has members who are cops, judges, etc... they could tap Daniel's parent's phone. If he's calling his mom every couple of days it would make it easy to track them. ORANGE SLURPEES ARE EVIL! Haven't said it in a while by Joe on 2006-11-21 21:47:49 jc_gypsy, was it you who suggested that Bree's parents said in the note not to tell Daniel anything to protect him? That was some good thinking! That letter... will we ever find out what it said? I keep thinking that if they didn't tell us exactly what it said, there must be a reason. Why else would they be so vague? by Lizard on 2006-11-21 21:48:34 I think their server crashed, too many people trying to view the new video. I thought their new server was supposed to be faster! This one was weird, Daniel " my life is over" a little too dramatic for a 18 y.o. no one died. Bree "it was Owens idea" was she kidding or are we supposed to believe she is nuts. I thought she was getting over the regressive thing. What happened to the Bree of the Driving Video a young woman ready to stand up for herself? by robtomorrow on 2006-11-21 21:50:05 #127 I had mentioned before. She's emotionaly like 11 years old. And kissed him for the flowers? Ewww. She had morning breath. Plus, they aren't always on cam. Who knows? They might have snogging sessions? Not if they are angry at eachother though. by voyboy on 2006-11-21 21:52:57 If she is having emotional problems then the "silent treatment" is the worst thing Daniel could do, isolating her like that. by robtomorrow on 2006-11-21 21:55:12 Sydney, Boycott 1st period. This way you don't have to wake up early. There's no better feeling than fighting evil and sleeping late at the same time. by Joe on 2006-11-21 21:55:49 #134 Joe - 'There’s no better feeling than fighting evil and sleeping late at the same time.' ROFL. That was a classic. by JB on 2006-11-21 21:58:29 OK...I think this new server is so much slower than the old one. Is anyone else having very slow refreshes? Not that I hit the refresh button often...or anything like that... by JB on 2006-11-21 21:59:27 Lizard - yes, it was me.. that's REALLY been bothering me, no matter how someone was raised or how much 'conditioning' or whatever she's been thru... she'd still turn to him and tell him everything she knew. The only plausible reason she hasn't, to me anyways, is to protect him.. lol, glad to see all the time I spent thinking bout all this wasn't wasted!! Angela- I totally agree with you.. we need to have the reverse of Daniel's breakfast.. have Bree go out.. or order in, for that matter! and surprise Daniel with a thanksgiving meal. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 22:04:58 Man, Bree has issues. by Ama on 2006-11-21 22:05:51 and please Bree.. whatever you do.. good lord, don't go to a 7-11!!! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 22:06:20 What's that on Daniels chin, now that he is living in seedy motels does he think he is Tom Waits? by robtomorrow on 2006-11-21 22:07:46 Yeah, she's done a peace offering in the past! Maybe she needs to buy him some Girl Scout cookies... :P Or, well, just do something nice for him. I guess she can't tell us why she can't tell Daniel without telling him. It is HIS laptop... by Lizard on 2006-11-21 22:11:12 I remember one of her plays (the one Daniel filmed) involved the Mayflower's landing at Plymouth Rock. Thanksgiving might be a big day for them afterall. by Moondoogle on 2006-11-21 22:13:42 Dan's gonna need more bourbon and cigars before he can be Tom Waits. by Moondoogle on 2006-11-21 22:15:05 robtomorrow - I think both of them spent time playing with highlighter in their boredom in the motel room, lol! and I'm going for, 'it was Owen's idea' as being a small joke.. something to make him smile.. or.. she's doing whatever she can to make sure he's safe... and being cute and nutty is the best she can handle at the moment. and Lizard.. I agree, I'd like to know what it said in totality.. although it's probly easier to leave it open so things can be added as needed in the storyline.. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 22:15:27 answered a few questions from a couple of videos back. nice work by Lara on 2006-11-21 22:16:44 why does Daniel have dark brown hair and grey facial hair?..and also watch danile get so sick of beign couped up with bree he leaves n if found by the watcher n killed or somthing by blondeambition on 2006-11-21 22:17:00 huh.. Moondoogle, good catch.. if they made plays about it in summer camp, they'd really find it to be a big holiday.. I think you've got something there! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 22:18:00 jc_gypsy7, Lizard, I like this idea. Maybe Bree is really protecting Daniel. Maybe the note told Bree that Daniel is in danger and to keep him away and hidden for his own good. Hmmm? JB, Thank you for laughing. by Joe on 2006-11-21 22:19:16 but yes i liked this video - daniel is the most realistic character, he's shitty, and in this one, she's shitty and immature. Portrays a bit more realism like the earlier videos. THe last few have been pretty unrealistic. anyway i'm hungry bye. by Lara on 2006-11-21 22:21:03 I still think that they need to go on a small road trip to the summer camp that Bree went to (where she did the play) ... I think someone there could have some answers, if not answers for Bree but for Daniel. Also might know the where abouts of her parents. Glad that some questions have been answered. Daniel did go to school, has parents etc... now if only Bree could get a hold of an Aunt or Uncle, Cousin or whoever... I have a feeling the next video will be from Gemma and will be totally benficial to the plotline! ... by Aidan on 2006-11-21 22:23:33 i said i was going, but one more thing... i like that there has been 3 in a row... WITH NO GEMMA by Lara on 2006-11-21 22:26:11 Joe - sorry for not laughing, lol, I did when I read your post! and yes... cause Daniel's quote was 'The note said that she should stay with me.' but not why, nor anything else it said.. and I've a feeling it said a lot.. or will when it's finally revealed. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 22:26:37 Aha! I found it. The Mayflower reference is in #46 The Order Of Denderah. by Moondoogle on 2006-11-21 22:27:56 You know, i really think that she BELIVES that Owen told her to do the survival skills video by Owned on 2006-11-21 22:31:08 sooo......... one would assume.. or I would anyways, lol!.. that Thanksgiving and all the trappings are a part of Bree's upbringing.. and something she will miss.. specially her parents... but right now, Daniel is all she has, soo.. *fingers crossed that they have a great turkey day and make up!* by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 22:31:19 I was laughing on the inside, Joe. :) It would be nice to hear that Bree's looking out for Daniel, too. by Lizard on 2006-11-21 22:32:36 I totally agree, Lizard.. since right now, all we're going on is faith. ok.. reality is dragging me back.. thanks all for, as usual, making this a fun place to be! night! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-21 22:34:39 Night, jc_gypsy. I'm going to bed, myself. After that wonderful ONE hour of sleep last night (thanks a lot, open memo!), I'm pooped out a bit earlier than usual tonight. Night, all! :) by Lizard on 2006-11-21 22:47:13 um.. i was finally able to watch it. um i think i know why everyone is all crazy. yup, sexual frustration. and you know how to get rid of that? you do? oh, okay. i thought i was going to have to go into detail. by drbrenda on 2006-11-21 22:47:21 Hey everybody! I THOUGHT I'd be back in 2 hours. Kind of funny, since that was.. uh.. 10 hours ago, huh? Of course, I haven't had time to read ALL the comments from the last 2 videos, but here are my immediate thoughts: Bree, dear, bless her sweet heart, is slightly immature, even for 16. DanielBeast has a huge responsibility on his hands, whether he works for the Order OR whether he has helped her flee completely out of love. In the previous video, Bree is exceedingly immature, pointing fingers at Daniel to be her "mature adult." In the last video, Daniel is authentic and honest. By the way, the blue and purple colors of clothing and the hotel are wonderful!! Bree's yellow tanktop is a nice contrast, also, whether that means anything or not. To me, it could mean "pollyannaism," or unjustified optimism. Why is boredom worse than having your life in danger or surveilled by supposed "watchers?" I'm really glad Daniel explained his situation to us and we got to hear HIS point of view. We were all dying for that, you know. He is justifiably angry in my opinion. Bree could at least make an effort to stop pointing fingers and pull her own weight. The delusion that Owen wanted her to make the last video really worries me. Sometimes, I wonder about Bree's mental health, in general. I think she is still regressing and that Daniel is just tired of it. #151-Lara--summed up everything I said with fewer words--kudos. Maybe this is an opportunity for both to "grow up" through this challenge. by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:02:11 I think Daniel has been turning tricks as a cross dressing hooker to pay for their expenses and he forgot to whip off his lipstick. by P_Monkey_Rules on 2006-11-21 23:08:17 I'm reading through all the other notes now.. #17--squirrelgirl- Definitely. A thank you is in order AND an apology from Bree. #22 Voyboy-good point. Chronologically 16, emotionally 11-12. This could actually be a sign of Asperger's. She's spent her whole life isolated without much opportunity to learn social skills. She has her "pet" interests. Possibly. #41-yes. Purple of course :) #49-I hope no one is allowed to duplicate names, 'cause as long as that is the only "The Order," we are safe to not believe anything said. #51-N2PTF-YES!--and honestly, this is the 1st time I have ever agreed with you on anything, I think!! #60-RAVENBLUE--The use of the word "retards" is very insensitive to mentally challenged individuals. It's not just you. I wish EVERYONE would stop doing it. It adds to the shame the mentally retarded have about themselves...BUT what I thought was really cool about your post is how you can have empathy for BOTH characters. Most people aren't showing that as much as you just did. Thanks. If you don't agree with my first statement and think I'm just being "politically correct," I don't want to hear it. I care too much about people with special needs. Getting too long.. going to keep going.. LOL..:) FORUM!! I missed you!!!! by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:14:16 hmmm by treebee on 2006-11-21 23:14:33 I wrote a long comment just now, sent it and it didn't show up, although I've refreshed twice. So, this is a test!! #163-P_Monkey_rules...LOL!!! by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:17:20 Transcript of the Video (from the LGPedia) for people who keep wondering what Daniel said at the end: Daniel: I'm not talking to Bree right now. She thinks this is some sort of game. Bree: No I don't. And might I add that the whole Survival Skills thing was Owen's idea? Daniel: See what I mean? My parents really don't care where I am. They're not exactly the "hands-on" type. I call my mom every few days. She thinks I'm camping or whatever. Anyways, this sucks. I don't know who's following us or even if we are being followed. I was taking classes down at a JC. I wanted to study film. It's just frustrating. My life's gone. Bree: And what about my life? Daniel: (He looks back at her, looks annoyed, but says nothing before he looks back to the camera.) I really wish things would go back to normal. Retrieved from "http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Silent_Treatment" by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:20:08 If Bree keeps regressing this way Daniel is going to have to find a way to afford diapers as well. by robtomorrow on 2006-11-21 23:21:12 The more I read the transcript, the more I see how Bree just isn't trying. She's giving very flippant, sassy answers. #17-Squirrelgirl-I think a thank you is an order, AND an apology AND some sort of amends (as some suggested, cooking him a meal, or a peace offering..better yet, a change in attitude!!) by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:25:39 Daniel is telling us more about his life which is good since a lot of people wanted to know. As for the lipstick, yes it is lipstick because it's pretty even looking. This is pretty funny because we will probably never know why that happened. If anything they might write it into the story, or go with what we suggest, LOL. I think they must have known we'd see it, so maybe they are laughing at our reactions to it. Or maybe it was part of some joke and now it doesn't wash off... But more than likely they wanted us to see it because it doesn't look like they tried to wash it off. Either way, it's funny... But it will now make me wonder why, lol by Jim on 2006-11-21 23:27:21 #22--I think Asperger's Syndrome might be considered for Bree, honestly. Since she is, as Voyboy stated, 16 yrs chronologically but 11-12 emotionally, this would be a red flag for that!! She's also been socially isolated and so her social skills are going to be immature. Of course, we've only seen her interact with the camera and Daniel. She has some "pet" interests she keeps going back to, in an encyclopedia-type way. Just something to think about. Sorry about all the posting.. I've been gone too long... making up for lost time.. LOVE THE FORUM!!! by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:28:26 See, I just re-wrote parts of 164 in comments 169-171 'cause I didn't think it posted. I couldn't help it but I do apologize!! by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:29:46 #65--LIZARD--totally agree with you. The more I contemplate and read, the more I wonder if he should just spank her and forget about the silent treatment!!! #68-Ravenblues--like the way you put that! I also agree with Lizard and JB that the creators are listening well to what we say. Joe--#131--SO FUNNY!! I think they BOTH need to take more responsibility for themselves and stop blaming and pointing fingers at each other. Really. And stop drinking orange slurpees!! (Oh, I forgot--I have a web-site defending them..) #131-135-168-Robotomorrow--I like the way your perspectives keep shifting about all this!! I'm concerned about her regression too, but coddling agression tends to exacerbate it.. She would end up in diapers then.. by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:37:50 Poor Dan, poor Bree. Poor P-Monkey, Owen, and Thor. As for Daniel and having some parents like his, he seems to be totally the opposite by "taking care" of Bree. Don't give up Dan, she seemingly doesn't have anyone to turn to that she can trust, she's got you and that's it.It's a big responsibility, but it's for a good cause Dan. Was there supposed to be any clues in this video? Or was this just Daniel telling us about his life? Nite yall! Sleep tite! I'm just starting my day here in Northern Africa..it'hella(yeah, I'm originally from Cali) cold here too, but it doesn't snow so it's all good. by sabrin on 2006-11-21 23:39:50 Last thought--then I will stop the built up barrage of not being able to get on this server~ Remember the Thanksgiving skit Daniel did.. It WOULD be cute if they would re-do it together for Thanksgiving.. and it would also give us more clues. But first, they both need to confront head to head what's going on.. Their whole relationship is either Daniel on the bed or now Bree on the bed. We need some face to face confrontation and discussion--no walking off. by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:40:47 I feel sorry for Daniel. This really isn't his problem, yet Bree is sucking him into it. Now, granted, she didn't want to, but still. And the whole, "What about my life?" thing was uncalled for. I'm with you, Daniel! by FireInside on 2006-11-21 23:42:06 For those of you who keep saying that Bree and Daniel should have sex...may I remind you that Bree is a minor. She's "jail bait", under 18 years of age. That means that having sex with her is breaking the law. It's call statutory rape. Taken from Wikipedia: "...Statutory rape is the crime of sex with a minor under the age of consent (AOC). Statutory rape differs from other types of rape in that overt force or threat need not be present. By law (statute), any such sexual activity is assumed to be coercive since the minor is considered in law as unable to give consent to the acts. Minors are less likely than adults to understand STDs, or to have knowledge of and access to reliable methods of contraception, and young women who want to use condoms may find their prospective partner unwilling. They are also less likely to be in a position where they are capable of raising a child and may not have the option of an abortion without parental consent. For these reasons, minors are less able to avoid the potentially negative consequences of sexual activity, and the situation may be even worse when compounded by the inequality inherent in any relationship with a legal adult. This provides further rationale for protecting minors by not giving them the legal right to consent..." Besides it being illegal, it would be a very bad risk to take. Not all birth control is 100% effective. I have several friends who used the birth control pill as directed on the package and directed by their doctors, and they still got pregnant. So, what if Bree got pregnant? She's not in a situation to raise a baby, on the run from crazy cult people and living in a motel and she has no money and no way to support the baby. What would she do, give birth in a motel room? She couldn't go to a hospital because the authorities that are cult members in that town would find her at a hospital. You get my point. Bree and Daniel having sex is a ridiculous idea. by Z2A on 2006-11-21 23:44:20 #60 Ravenblues.. the only thing I wanted to add was that I know your comment about "retards" was intended to be light and funny, and it was..even though I despise that term.. by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:44:30 #177Z2A--I also think she's too young (and immature!) for sex. However, the laws in each state have different ages of consent. GA is 14!! We don't even know what state they are in, anyway. by Marbella on 2006-11-21 23:46:04 I don't think we'll be worrying about that for a while, though, in this series. by FireInside on 2006-11-21 23:49:10 Marbella, if it's supposed to be in the state where they filmed it, then it would be California. In California the age of consent is 18. However, like you said, we don't know what state it's really supposed to be in. I think the creators would like you to think it was some rural area either in the Midwest or in New England. However, if they wanted to make it look that way, they shouldn't have used Spanish style houses with red tile roofs in the scenes of Bree's parents' home because that style is not very common in rural areas of the Midwest or in New England. It's a western state look. by Z2A on 2006-11-21 23:57:52 Actually, in Georgia it's sixteen with parental consent...whatever that means... by Moondoogle on 2006-11-22 00:00:45 Hey, dad, can I do some guy? Alright, cool! by FireInside on 2006-11-22 00:07:13 Z2A.. I agree.. you make a great point.. but with all that driving, they could be in NEVADA or WASHINGTON state by now. I think the age of consent in Nevada is pretty low. I don't know for sure, though. If they're in Nevada,they could easily get married there.. possibly!!! The age of consent in GA used to be 14 for sex and marriage (with parental consent.) The same was true in Alabama. I am relieved to know it has been changed in GA!!! by Marbella on 2006-11-22 00:07:18 It seems you both were clever and were not in the room we had thought. It only postpones the inevitable though....we'll catch you soon. You can't keep running forever from THE ORDER! by THE ORDER on 2006-11-22 00:13:36 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aff3U-9f4Tg by modelmotion on 2006-11-22 00:14:18 LOL, yeah. I guess there's a big difference in responsibility and maturity between the ages of fourteen and sixteen. by Moondoogle on 2006-11-22 00:14:27 Yay random link spam! Actually, I was looking for that link. by FireInside on 2006-11-22 00:16:08 Another thought-- Daniel could also be arrested for kidnapping. See, IF Bree's parents have been killed or sent away where they will never be seen or heard from again, the Order can have Daniel placed in jail for abducting a minor. Just a sad, scary thought.. by Marbella on 2006-11-22 00:16:48 That's a very good idea Marbella... thanks for the suggestion. :) by THE ORDER on 2006-11-22 00:22:07 jonas has a video up, you should add a bit more modelmotion. or otherwise people wont click! who am i kidding these people click everything and hit refresh too! by jared from texas on 2006-11-22 00:22:19 Jonas is cool or whatever, but what does he have to do with the series? by FireInside on 2006-11-22 00:23:58 TO THE FAKE ORDER.. You are so full of poo-poo!! Nyah! ~felt like posting Bree-style~ by Marbella on 2006-11-22 00:24:37 blade8r - Richard maybe i should write another fanfic. i have a few ideas popping in my head. nah.. takes too long. when bree said, "what about my life?" i thought.. "What a selfish bitch." man i never thought i'd say that about bree. by blade8r on 2006-11-22 00:26:22 A lot of our members are government officials so ofcourse we are... that goes without saying. ;) by THE ORDER on 2006-11-22 00:29:28 Blade8r.. That's why I was joking Daniel should spank her.. and I never thought I'd say that about Bree either... by Marbella on 2006-11-22 00:31:28 At this point I think there's no way around it: This will become a "coming of age" story. At the very least, even if it's not the central plot, Bree must grow up or she will be left alone to deal with this. (And THEN she'll grow up real quick.) The cuteness and stuffed animals won't carry her through this problem. That's a coping mechanism she's developed that has run its course. She's 16 years old. Daniel has some degree of wisdom, and he can teach her a lot about confronting problems with the decisiveness of an adult. I hope he has the patience to do so. Just to be clear: NOOO I'm not talking about sex. by Paulo on 2006-11-22 01:17:42 Hey hey hey you guys all need to settle down. For the record this isn't about Daniel's lipstick, or the strain they're having. This video is about Owen trying to force a wedge in the relationship. Something needs to be done. by fantim on 2006-11-22 01:31:16 Ugh, I really hope Jonas is not going to be part of LG15. He's wayyyy too 'commercial' for this series. Bree seemed like a real girl when she was introduced...but he's just making videos for the sake of being seen. Unfortunately, his editing is way too much like Daniel's, so he's probably going to be a part of it :(. by JB on 2006-11-22 01:40:11 Daniel, I know you're young and you've given up a lot, but you chose to do this. It's the right thing to do. You're an adult, Bree is a child. She's also emotionally very young, probably because she has to be in order to cope with this. Who knows what's happened to her growing up, what she's seen, due to this cult. What is she supposed to do? She has to laugh and joke and try to make the best of things. It's up to you, now, as the man and the adult, to make Bree come up with a plan with you. You need to figure out what to do now. And of course you're being followed. Duh. Watch Gemma's videos. by Jackie on 2006-11-22 01:45:57 hello any body awake by FreeStyler on 2006-11-22 01:52:02 I want something exciting to happen. Fleeing The Watcher was good but now we are back in another motel room. I wanna know what's going on with her parents. by Lillygirl15 on 2006-11-22 01:58:15 It's my birthday today too. Pretty crappy so far. by Lillygirl15 on 2006-11-22 01:59:20 P.S. Daniel: Maybe you should KISS AND MAKE UP (or out ^_^). *Hint, hint!* by Jackie on 2006-11-22 02:06:43 This is SO it. I remember that exact kind of situation happened to me a few years ago. No webcam then though. "- My life's gone - And what about my life ?". Teenage Lovers treatment. by Period on 2006-11-22 02:14:35 wow does daniel ever look like a beast with that awful looking goatee, shave!!!! ick! and what kinda motel are they staying at that has putple flowery sheets, i didnt really notice it so much in the last vid but it is painfully obvious in this one, no motel in their right mind would have that for a bedspread, did they go back to brees now to get her stuff and if so why werent we informed because clearly this is not the motels!!! it even has a matching sheet under the lamp, its ridiculous. honestly this silly little secret society cannot have that much power, i mean EVERYONE cant be apart of them, make videos and send them to everyone, if this was real and u were smart u would realize u have documented all of this and send tapes to A: the cops B: various press, not just one station but all stations, im sure if u go missing they will pay attention to it. C: also u would give tapes to people u know arent affiliated and would help u, so that if u go missing they can make copies and spread the tapes around more and there would be total media coverage and u would be found and rescued or at the very least the people who killed u would be found and prosecuted, anyway thats just what i would do. but then again im not a fake series on the internet...... by angelik_pistol on 2006-11-22 02:17:09 Crazy idea time!!!: So, Daniel gets upset and walks out. He takes the camera and just talks for a bit to get his feelings out. Then he realizes that he can't leave Bree, and does something sweet, like picks flowers for her. He puts the camera down on the curb or something, so we can watch while he surprises her. He's walking to the motel... and he's attacked and taken off! Bree hears it and opens the door but he's gone. She walks out confused and scared, and sees the camera. She stumbles on her words a bit, and then just bursts into tears.... end of video... That's kind of a pickle to be in for the creators, having Bree on her own like that... but it would be interesting... And then after, maybe Daniel breaks away, and comes back to her, and its this big beautiful reunion.... *sigh*... see, my best thinking is at 2:00 am! by hawtstuff on 2006-11-22 02:37:54 hi, it's about 3 in the morning here... i have no idea why i'm still up... so anyways. i haven't read through all the messages, so sorry if this is a repeat. anyways. i think this video was really interesting. back before all the craziness, when it was a simpler lonelygirl15, bree and daniel communicated through videos ALL the time. this happened especially after her parents forbid her to see him anymore. that hasn't been hapening lately, of course, because they are always together. and daniel has never really liked being >in front by cheesy-come-lately on 2006-11-22 04:14:34 ok. so that was like... half my comment. and not even the important part. i swear. computers are out to get me. *frustrated* oh well. i'm going to bed. maybe if anyone's interested i'll finish what i was saying again later. by cheesy-come-lately on 2006-11-22 04:16:47 Why do they never post any vlogs around this time anyways? by FireInside on 2006-11-22 05:15:56 Sorry i couldn't take the time to read all 210 posts that were up when i wrote this but - when Bree says what about my life? maybe she is referring to her actual life - like Daniel is saving her life by doing this? not like my selfish little 16 yr old life - because she was never really like that. She didn't have any friends to go hang out at the mall with and buy jeans and drink orange slurpees with. and get over the lipstick thing. his lips are chapped or maybe it's just the lighting. seriously - is it that important? infants. by kellyg on 2006-11-22 06:10:46 lol kellyg! "infants" yah I mean mabye his lips are chapped? so what? any way umm Yah Daniel's parents obviously aren't the parents you really want unless you are on a big adventure! Then it would be okay. I kind of don't know what to say....... DO NOT drink orange slurpees! ;-) by Tessaroo on 2006-11-22 06:21:39 daniels blonde beard is gross. and also is he wearing a lipstick??? by ysmntbk on 2006-11-22 06:41:28 Keep giving her the silent treatment, Daniel. It would blow your cover if you told her you loved her. She knows how you feel about her. She is starting to feel that way too. Have you noticed how they are on the same bed? Even in the last video? Really, it's just a matter of time. Now therein lies the rub. Opening up your heart often closes the friendship door. Will Bree and Daniel respond when opportunity knocks? by Moonpies on 2006-11-22 06:43:22 This I-want-my-life-back and we-are-being-followed is soooo Nowhere Man 1990's. "My name is Thomas Veil" :S by Antiparticle on 2006-11-22 07:07:15 this is getting so retared and daniel is a horrible actor hes always melancholy and stupid everyone stop watching this gayness and start finding a different video to support. the cheap creators will probably delete this comment because its negative input BUT I DONT CARE.] retards. by iliketoeatiamfat on 2006-11-22 07:19:42 haha. man do i feel duped. the first time i had ever seen bree was a few months ago on youtube and i was high on Meth, so i just took the vids as this girl being silly and never even thought it about it again after that night. now last night was the first time i did Meth since the last time I had seen her vids months ago, before all this storyline evolved. so this morning i was having a hard time getting to sleep, so I decided to surf the net for a bit and i was reading some List that mel gibson is on, and borat and lonelygirl15 was also on it. When i heard the name it made bells ring in my head that told me that i had heard that name somewhere. so i googled her name and i got here. i started watching the vids without reading the comments, and at first i thought maybe bree and daniel were Meth addicts because of all the strange behaviour bree was doing, such as talking to puppets and stuff. But then I examined her eyes in several videos and she didn't have big black pupils, so i then excluded that bree was a meth addict. so with every vid i watched, i actually started believing these 2 people were either mentally disturbed or were actually in serious trouble. Some glad i read the comments though and found out this is all a production. I had my sneakers on, and was ready to go looking for these 2 kids to save them from this cult. sooooo glad that didn't happen... by Hufingraz on 2006-11-22 08:10:03 DANIEL: I know you are frustrated because this is probably much more than you originally bargained for. You are older and wiser than Bree - don't forget you are probably the first friend that has ever given Bree so much in a friendship. Even though Bree is highly intelligent for her age, you have to remember that she is socially inexperienced. BREE: You need to be more forthcoming about your religion. Daniel is going way above and beyond the normal call of duty of a friend. He should be thoroughly informed as to who these people are and why they want you so desperately. If you do not give him all of the facts, Daniel is likely to walk out on you right now. Then what will you do? ******* Comment to jcgirl28: "ok…. my mom was watching the news, and i finally found out that lonelygirl15 bree is a FAKE!!! ITS ALL SET UP AND I DIDNT KNOW THAT…JEEZ!!! THEREA RE PRODUCERS AND EVERYTHING….GOH….. i am so upset right now.." Do you live under a rock?!?!!! ******* And where has Gemma been? Is she alright? Or was she dealt-with for giving out too much information? by butterfly on 2006-11-22 08:17:56 I watched that Jonas guys latest video. I don't like it. Yeah it's cute but...honestly he seriously needs to get friends and a hobby. He needs to get a life. Such a waste of human potential. I like his videos, but they're really kind of pathetic. It's different with a guy than it is with a 16 year old girl that lives at home with strict parents that home school her and won't let her do anything. It's not fair, but that's the way it is. She's just cute. Jonas is just a pathetic loser with no ambitions, no future, no friends, no hobbies, no career, no education. Dang, I'm starting to get depressed just thinking about it. His videos are kind of fun so I'll continue to watch. I do hope he makes more, but can he ad something of interest and intelligence? At least Bree throws in stuff like "proving science wrong" and quotes intelligent little known facts from books. Sorry to rag on Jonas, because I do like him, but he seriously needs to just do SOMETHING. Slackers aren't cool. by Z2A on 2006-11-22 08:30:56 Bree IS rude for kind of expecting Daniel to just take care of her and abandon his whole life while not telling him what she really knows about what is going on. Maybe Daniel could have some more 'spying on Bree' videos like in the old days when he was a stalker. And that could be the way to reveal that Bree knows more then she's saying. She and Gemma could be secretly talking or something. Speaking of that, Gemma's coming back soon right? And P.S. you need to work harder to make Daniel look better. The lip color looks funky on video (maybe you guys are used to lighting is face so you don't notice it or something), and his facial hair looks almost white on screen. Get rid of it or color it so he doesn't look like he's just some guy in his 50s locked in a motel with a minor. by pink_moon on 2006-11-22 08:31:47 iliketoeatiamfat - It's not like that was a constructive negitive comment ... by Georgia on 2006-11-22 08:35:57 People talking about sex: immature, much? 46, 177, 179: I agree. 64: GO UTES! (just kidding) I wish I could go to the Y, but unfortunately my dad does not agree with the Mormons (or with my conversion). 67: Sssh... Danie1beast: shut up. ORDER: You don't talk like any of the Elders that I've heard...*furrows brow.* Not many of them use words like "hot." You're comments look more like their coming from a teenager. 163: shut up. THat's disgusting. I also agree that Daniel should shave. by Xeniph on 2006-11-22 08:37:43 Hufingraz - you think doing meth is cool or something?? jezz get some help and don't do that crap... by hmmm on 2006-11-22 08:50:40 PARDON?!?!?! Is it just me or is everyone else having to whack their volume up to hear what they're blabbing about? by GothicJoe on 2006-11-22 08:54:27 hey GothicJoe.. I have to max mine out to listen, too. by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-22 08:56:44 224: I had to turn mine all the way up AND put my ear on the speaker. by Xeniph on 2006-11-22 08:59:16 A couple of important notes to make: #1: I have ALWAYS had to turn my volume near-max just to hear Bree & Daniel, but ESPECIALLY Bree. #2: Why is everyone hating the crap out of Daniel's goatee? Wtf guys, he's in a crummy motel with people chasing after him and he's kind of upset right now, his whole life is basically down the drain as of now...do you really think he gives a rat's ass about shaving right now?? They're keeping it realistic, which has always been a major goal from "the Creator's". Don't forget that. #3: Lipstick? It's probably, as has been said, just chapped lips. Mine are even chapped at this very moment. Or, they got bored and Bree put lipstick on him. It's no big deal, guys. Let it go :P And that's my two cents. by Jonneh on 2006-11-22 09:09:22 hehe, Xeniph, I saw your post over in Bree chat.. love that pic with your animals! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-22 09:12:43 Maybe the 'creators' were experimenting with teh effects of different color filters, but it's pretty clear that there's a red/violet cast to teh whole video -- for objects up close (like Daniel's mouth lol), the effect is intensified, but look at the bedspread, etc, too. If the ywanted to build tension, this video didn't do it, in my opinion. If they wanted to stall for time, I wish they'd used dancing penguins, or something. by stargazer on 2006-11-22 09:18:57 #177--what a prude.. by drbrenda on 2006-11-22 09:20:46 228: ^^ thankies. by Xeniph on 2006-11-22 09:21:33 230: what an idiot. by Xeniph on 2006-11-22 09:39:59 THE ORDER knows all about "hot" women. Why do you think we picked Bree for the ceremony in the first place? :) by THE ORDER on 2006-11-22 09:41:49 I'm saying I have never heard an Elder use the word. As I said, the wordings of the comments (and the little "quips" like that) sound like a teenager. by Xeniph on 2006-11-22 09:43:20 1. that is very bright PINK lipstick. 2. daniel's life isn't going to end just because he missed like 2 weeks of classes. theres so much you can do to make up for that. even if he missed a test or something. 3. alright enough with the "little girl" bit... that's just lame. he was trying to have a serious moment and say how much it sucked, and she blames it on her stuffed animals? with a straight face? who even does that? 4. but on the other hand, the silent treatment isn't exactly mature either. wtf. by katie on 2006-11-22 09:45:35 oh and... 5. did he dye his beard thing blonde? by katie on 2006-11-22 09:46:46 OK this is my first comment and I know that other people have mentioned this 'Daniel1beast' but seriously 1) Why are you just lounging around in the motel room?!?! 2) Why are you both pissed at each other and not completely freaking out about Bree's parents going missing. I don't care how old Bree is - that time when she's playing eye spy in the car - jeesus! 3) Surely if Daniel was really not speaking to Bree he wouldn't just record the video in front of her!?! by grumblemouse on 2006-11-22 09:47:30 THE ORDER is made up of people of various ages. It is not just a bunch of senior citizens. The younger members scan the web for information that will further our cause. by THE ORDER on 2006-11-22 09:53:06 THE ORDER may be made up of people of various ages, but the Elders are the only ones who know what's going on, really. Bree was a part of The Order, but did she know what's going on? I submit that: 1) You are a fraud. You are not a part of the Order, nor are you affiliated with them. 2) If you ARE a part of the Order, you will not be for long. Do you think the Order will like one of its members posting messages that, in effect, warn Bree and Daniel. Either you are naive (sp?), or stupid. by Xeniph on 2006-11-22 10:01:12 I'm still going with stress-related behavior... I think they're both beginning to react to the absence of normalcy in their lives. and I STILL think the note from Bree's parents told her not to tell Daniel anything if she wants to protect him. what's the deal with the birthmark on her back in the swimming video, anyway? by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-22 10:03:11 Well, I have to go. Dad wants me to be part of the Thanksgiving skit for the Elders (gah! How I hate it!). by Xeniph on 2006-11-22 10:03:40 lolol, bye Xeniph! by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-22 10:10:09 http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3130 by jc_gypsy7 on 2006-11-22 10:18:39 #197 Paolo--Way to go! That is exactly what I've been hoping will happen, that this will be a "coming of age," story. #206 I think the "Creators" did that for us..since we go on about "purple" as a joke. #211-I don't think she was talking about her life that way, if you look at the context of the last 2 videos. #214-Moonpies-There are still two separate beds in that motel. #219-Z2A-I could barely watch EITHER Jonas video. He's a cute guy, but anyone over 30 may react the way I was and just get totally bored and stop watching midway through. #220-pinkmoon-like the idea of Daniel spying on Bree even though they are together now. He could spy from outside, or hide under the bed or in the closet or something, to see what she's really up to. #207&218-I really do not think Daniel will walk out on her.. but I could be wrong, esp. if she continues the attitude she's had lately. #241-Made me laugh! OK..random thoughts.. Good Morning all..at 12:30 noon here.. by Marbella on 2006-11-22 10:24:19 Marbella, there are two beds in the motel Although if you notince in the two latest videos You will find one on the other's bed Bree spoke from Daniel's bed in "Survival Skills" Even though she obviously hasn't gotten over that awkward kiss. Bree blaming her stuffed animals doesn't bother me. Anyone going through this would create a security blanket. Better that than crying and pouting, Yet something tells me they aren't safe yet. by Moonpies on 2006-11-22 10:44:05 Lizard said something interesting about somebody fake posting under the same name, about the members being numbered, in the order the names were registered. I thought I would investigate. Here's a listing of some of the first registered names and the member numbers. This is not a complete list. 4 - gemmers19 5 - lonelygirl15 6 - danielbeast 7 - Miles 8 - The Creators 9 - Amanda 10 - Greg 11 - Mesh 12 - jsmith 13 - twjaniak 14 - davgreat 15 - roullav 16 - quince 17 - MJ 18 - Lily 19 - covedweller 20 - Phoenician 21 - OpAphid 22 - Glenn 23 - Tachyon 24 - 10033 25 - Brother 26 - OperationAphid 27 - APHID 28 - Operation Aphid 29 - Op Aphid 30 - Brother 10033 31 - SparkleBot 32 - SparklesBot 34 - StarLady This gives a lot of information, I think. Here's how it breaks down, in my opinon. 4 through 10 or 11 are characters in the series, or future characters. 11 or 12 through 17 or 18 are personal accounts for other people who are working behind the scenes on the series (the name Janiak sounds familiar, I think I read it in that WIRED article). And 19 through around 30 are other names that the creators, for whatever reason, wanted to reserve so people couldn't use them under false pretenses. After 30, it breaks down, I'm not sure of the significance of SparkleBot, other than he or she registered two similar names back to back, or of StarLady. This also raises lots of questions. What of the significance of the number 10033? Do we know that yet? And who are all these other people: Miles, Amanda, Greg, Mesh? by newbie on 2006-11-22 10:49:50 okay so I just read back and realized I wasn't the first to do this, but I still learned a lot! Also, are the numbers in order of registration? I guess they might not be. by newbie on 2006-11-22 10:54:50 10033 is the number of virgins THE ORDER has sacrificed since its inception. A lot more were sacrificed in the old days because its much harder finding them these days. :( by THE ORDER on 2006-11-22 10:57:27 I wonder what their gonna do with Thanksgiving coming up... by XxPrissy_GirlxX on 2006-11-22 10:59:00 by the way THE ORDER is member number 381. You should start ignoring his posts, if you haven't already. by newbie on 2006-11-22 10:59:28 personally...this was a waste of a video, actually the last two were a waste of vidoes and i suspect gemma, The Boring, is going to post her own video about how well they are doing keeping a low profile and contemplating about a random subject. When will Bree and Daniel get off their high horses and start showing affection for each other...it really is annoying. by bettyboop7 on 2006-11-22 11:01:21 by the way again, 10033 is a zip code in New York City. okay I'm done for now. by newbie on 2006-11-22 11:02:51 Newbie is member number 296 and as his post suggests, he doesn't have a clue as to what's going on. by THE ORDER on 2006-11-22 11:07:00 #246-Janiak is in charge of programming and the technical issues for this website. He was very helpful to me during the Marbella Impersonator debacle. Having the numbers DOES help with figuring out who came first. Also, the programmers know the email address where the screen names originate. When Lizard's identity was copied, someone copied her pictures and information from the other profile. It looks like it is fixed now, as there is only one user named Lizard. by Marbella on 2006-11-22 11:27:36 I have been here for quite some time and I can attest that "the Order" (#381) is posting fake. I shouldn't have to, however, due to the absurd subject matter posted by this user. That's why even a newbie can detect their "fake/spurious/of doubtful authenticity" nature!!! by Marbella on 2006-11-22 11:30:23 One of the greatest mysteries of this series: Why is Daniel's facial hair a weird blond/grey colour? I'm not complaining, but it just seems weird! I think something is going to happen on Thanksgiving. by PaleNovember527 on 2006-11-22 11:46:10 Janiak has a "shout out" video if you scroll down on the right. I just noticed it and really enjoyed it. I didn't realize how much his own thoughts parallelled the overall zeitgeist ofthe forum. He has other videos but I haven't had a chance to watch them yet. I will, later.. Sorry, I have to go for a while and try to have a life!! by Marbella on 2006-11-22 11:46:27 I hate the fact that Daniel is so passive agressive. I used to like Daniel's character, but now he's just pissing me off. by eleventwenty on 2006-11-22 11:47:00 Gemma must not care that her friends are on the run... she hasn't posted in a while. On another note, I am really feeling sorry for Daniel. He's giving up his whole life for Bree, and she's not even caring about it. I will say, however, that unless the plot changes drastically this is going to be the end of my adoration of LG. They should be investigating the Order or doing something, anything interesting. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! by changingwaters on 2006-11-22 11:48:02 well this video seemed to answer a lot of questions that everyone keeps asking about Daniel's parental situation. Also explains the way Daniel has been feeling in the last few videos. I guess it's cool that the Creators are responding to our comments, but I would like a little more story development at this point. This new motel room doesn't look much like a motel to me. Believe me, I've stayed in a lot of motels/hotels for business travel and I have never had a purple bedspread, a pillow sham that matched the bedspread, or a tablecloth on the bedside table. Maybe I'm being nit-picky, but it just makes the story a little harder to believe. Daniel, you're quite a hero for such a young man. It can't be easy putting up with an immature young girl on the run from a weird cult. It would be nice to see something about them celebrating Thanksgiving. Maybe they could give thanks that they haven't been captured, and thanks for the seemingly large supply of money from Bree's parents. Or maybe even a "Proving Science Wrong" about turkeys or something (or maybe even about Slurpees). A lot of people miss those old videos. I don't know, I'm just throwing the idea out there. A few people have complained about having to register to leave comments, but after the trouble we've had with people stealing other's identities, I think it's a good idea. I don't think it's really much of a big deal, and it's easier to register for this than it is on a lot of message boards. Also you can still watch the videos even if you haven't registered. by elliemae on 2006-11-22 11:50:31 Greg Amanda Miles Even Mesh are "The Creators" Only the members created after that are up for speculation. Notice how OpAphid and Tacyhon were reserved later. by Moonpies on 2006-11-22 11:52:12 I just rewatched the vid and here's a new thought. Daniel says that he's called his mom every few days. What if the Order has been monitoring his parents phone and are able to trace the calls. That would explain how they found Bree and Daniel so quickly at the other hotel. If we are to believe that members of the Order are in high positions, maybe some of them are in the FBI or something. by elliemae on 2006-11-22 11:56:22 Bree should make a video apology to Daniel for being so thoughtless and flippant in her other videos. These two need a break from the monotony of the hotel. Maybe they could go hide out in a dark movie theater for a while. They could even each see different movies so they could get a break from one another. Are there any others, besides Gemma, who've broken away from the Order? If there is anyone out there watching, maybe you could post a response and tell these two what to do. Also, Daniel, maybe telling your parents what is going on would not be such a bad idea. They are older, and hopefully wiser. Maybe they can help. Do you think this would put them in danger and that is why you haven't been honest with them? by elliemae on 2006-11-22 12:04:43 to add on to the note theory where it said not to tell daniel anything...maybe the bald dude wrote the note and put that in there, to help protect the secrets...kind of like 'if it old you id have to kill you' thing except 'if she tells u ill have to kill you'... also...iin regards to the summer camp...daniel said she was a counselor...wouldnt she have counselor friends from there or something??? idk i just think she wouldve made some friends or something, especially since theyre also probably teenagers in the cult and could understand her situation.... lillygirl...happy birthday! hey creators...u should put lilys in the video or something as ur own way of saying happy birthday....wow umm ok im shutting up now by sydney on 2006-11-22 12:06:49 maybe daniel and bree have found someone's place to hide out in it would make sense...theyre probably close to running out of food an dthey obviosuly woudlnt tell us this...then the order would find out as well by sydney on 2006-11-22 12:08:20 i think itd be cute if daniel walked out on bree after getting reallly pissed off, then comes back and bree and daniel have a huge long talk and make up and kiss without realizing the camera (which is sitting on the gorundor bed or something) is on...so we get a bunch of answers as does daniel...then later on they realize that the camera was on and decide to post it with a little thing from the two of them at the end seeing "showing u this was the best way to explain what has happened since our last post" ...i have way to much time on my hands, i hate being sick :-(... by sydney on 2006-11-22 12:11:19 btw....where are you guys gettng a numbered list of members? when i go to the member directory i get an alphabetical list (im right above tachyon alphabetically...kinda creepy i gotta say :-P) by sydney on 2006-11-22 12:16:54 sydney, when you click on someones profile, look at the last part of the addy in the addy bar...it tells the members number. You're member 290 for instance. by THE ORDER on 2006-11-22 12:22:45 256 PaleNovember527- I was just about to post that about Thanksgiving. If that is what her camp did a play about it must be a major day in thier religion (why else would they pick that play in the summer) SO... maybe it ties into the ceremony somehow. Just throwing it out there. Also, while I was reading throught the posts I picked up on some comments about Daniel giving Bree the silent treatment being rude because she's right there- well first off they don't have much privacy and maybe this is how he feels he needs to talk to her about his feelings. If she is irrational (which she seems to be) then maybe by having the camera there and not addressing her directly she will listen to what he has to say without freaking out or yelling at him (which I believe he referenced when he was driving to the store to get her breakfast). by Karebee on 2006-11-22 12:33:27 Sydney, you have some good ideas. It would make sense for them to stay with a friend of Daniel's or something. Also, your idea for the next video sounds really sweet. I'm sorry you are sick :-( by elliemae on 2006-11-22 12:35:19 The first motel was the real thing. The motel they're staying in now looks a lot like Daniel's room with a purple bedspread. I guess real motel rooms can get pretty expensive after awhile. by Moondoogle on 2006-11-22 12:42:45 Come to think of it. It seems Gemma's room has the same colored walls as well. I guess light blue is a common color among angst-ridden teens on the merge of psycological break-downs. by Moondoogle on 2006-11-22 12:46:10 Okay so I do think Jonas is part of the series only because he said two magic words in his last video "lonely" and "boring" sounds familiar eh? okay they may be common words and appear in a few youtube videos but a girl can dream can't she? Jonas is HOT! by Karebee on 2006-11-22 12:46:52 Moondoogle, I realize that they couldn't film everything in a real motel room, but they could have found an uglier bedspread and made it look more realistic. That's just my opinion, though. I wonder where Gemma has been during all of this. Maybe the Creators got tired of reading everyone's complaints about her. I liked her ok, but would rather see Bree and Daniel. by elliemae on 2006-11-22 12:50:35 omg karbee...i know soo hott lol and thanks elliemae! im feeling a lot better today by sydney on 2006-11-22 12:51:12 Karebee, I'm totally with you :-p by elliemae on 2006-11-22 12:52:10 about the motel I stay in hotels and motels often (I'm in sales) I don't think they are in a motel room- no headboard? thats unheard of! also the table is not right- they wouldn't have a tablecloth on a table next to the bed, its a hazard and they about the table, they are always heavy wooden tables with a drawer. BUt they got the picture above the bed right ;) I'm sure it's an expense issue though. by Karebee on 2006-11-22 12:55:33 YAY for the Daniel vid...I was getting a *little* worried about him. Motel doesn't look very...motel-ish. Sorry, but I kinda have to side with Daniel...I mean, they are basically running until who-knows-when, with a limited amount of money. The only connection they have to the world is an online video posting, and Bree's parents are mysteriously missing. So, why is Bree acting like a little kid, making silly little videos? My guess is, she's in denial...or she's just immature...one of the two...maybe both. Daniel seems a little more down-to-earth. I think he gets that this situation is not a solid one, and they could be in really big danger...not to mention their lives are being "thrown away." My hope for the next vid is that they make up, but 'accidentally' leave the camera on, so that their whole conversation is caught on camera. So then, instead of making a video about the conversation, they just edit the actual conversation video to tell what happened. And MAYBE, just MAYBE, it will end with a kiss? I know they aren't *officially* going out or whatever, but they should be. Just my opinion. I mean, who isn't just HOPING they get together in the the end - if there even is an end. LOL. Kay well, that was my 2 cents. *bye* by *just me* on 2006-11-22 13:03:28 oh - And do they REALIZE that tomorrow is Thanksgiving? Or do they not know what day it is at all? Or maybe it's that they DO know, it's just that a holiday is the LAST thing on their minds right now. =) *bye* by *just me* on 2006-11-22 13:09:24 #278 Karebee and #275 elliemae I agree with what you are saying about this not being a motel/hotel room. See my post #144 for the last video - I think this could be a youth hostel or boarding house and they maybe said 'motel' to throw the Order off track. My argument was that the bed is too small and the bedspread is too nice looking. I think its a requirement that hotels/motels have gaudy looking bedspreads or something =) by gnome on 2006-11-22 13:11:12 daniel looks sad and tired... by Lynn on 2006-11-22 13:15:12 #189 Marbella, Could he really be arrested for kidnapping when her parents have disappeared? Shouldn't they be charged with abandonment or neglect? Unless of course, they file kidnapping charges against Lucy and the Deacon. Lizard, I'm looking for your expertice here. I don't necessarily want Bree and Daniel to start sleeping together, but a kiss or deeper relationship would make sense in the storyline. by elliemae on 2006-11-22 13:19:26 *just me* i said almost the exact same thing! i TOTALLY agree with you...its a good way to answer questions and get a little romance in there too! *winks at creators* :-P by sydney on 2006-11-22 13:28:51 wouldn't daniels parents want him to be home for thanksgiving, even if they aren't hands on? by emilyanne on 2006-11-22 13:35:02 emilyanne (send note) Says: November 22nd, 2006 at 1:35 pm wouldn’t daniels parents want him to be home for thanksgiving, even if they aren’t hands on? I thought about that too. If he calls to check in with them, they can't be THAT bad. They have answered a few questions, but not enough. These kids need to do some exercise and quit laying around on the bed- they are making me groggy. by Karebee on 2006-11-22 13:48:23 Arg. Hate to see both of you fall apart. Seems your doing the right thing and for now, I suggest get a day job that pays cash. Maybe you both could work there. Illegals all the time get a job without a ssn. you need to support yourselves. this ceremony should be over within a month ... remember ... there was not enough time to prepare someone else. How long did Bree prepare ? Are her parents doing OK ?? Phones are traced ... using a prepaid phone I hope ? by markus on 2006-11-22 13:55:27 Daniel and Bree- Do not despair. Do not be afraid. You ARE being watched by The Order. But DO be aware that you are also being watched by allies. If we can help you we will try, but only if we think it is necessary, though you will never know if we do. There is a way out of and through this dilemma. Be careful not to let your frustrations and uncertainty interfere with your friendship or what must be done. Remember that you two are friends, caught in the same problem. This is a time for working together to help each other deal with these harrowing circumstances; and you should never lose hope, or your sense of humor. Surely, you must realize that you cannot run and hide indefinitely. You two need to seriously discuss the situation, evaluate options and form a plan. What are friends for? That is vital. Even when they are "stuffed animals". Rest assured, Bree, your parents are safe... for now, and are doing what they can to help resolve this. The Order isn't what you think it is. by Vigilo on 2006-11-22 13:59:47 The portal of Gemma will soon open. by modelmotion on 2006-11-22 14:03:15 A youth hostel would be cheaper than a motel. by Moondoogle on 2006-11-22 14:04:16 We havn't heard form Gemma since FRIDAY! thats a long time. ohhhh gemmmmmma........ where areeeee youuuu?????????? by emilyanne on 2006-11-22 14:06:57 ALSO: I hope everyone went out and got a copy of WIRED magazine. huge article. bree... err.. jessica... whatever. shes on the cover. GO GET IT. by emilyanne on 2006-11-22 14:09:24 whats up with vigilo? her pic on her profile is similar to tachyons and opaphids? fanfiction im guessing but idk by sydney on 2006-11-22 14:28:26 #217 Hufingraz -- Meth kills. It destroys your physical and mental health, it destroys your family and friendships, it destroys your education and career. Basically it ruins you and it ruins the lives of those around you. You have a substance abuse problem. It's not a matter of weakness and will power. It's been shown that chemical dependency is a disease of the brain and is often inherited. You can get over it if you want to, but you need to make the first step. Get help before it's too late and everyone is at your funeral. P.S. Please don't talk about using Meth here. We don't like it and it's not cool. by Z2A on 2006-11-22 14:36:45 true dat..... ...about time someone said something about bree being a total sped-cake. her parents are MISSING. missing. as in, we don't know where they are. or if they'll ever come home or even if they're alive. yeah, dead. d-e-a-d. they could be dead. they whole, don't blame me if was owen's idea. daniel. leave her. leave her in the hotel. let her pay for it herself or live on the street or go back to her stupid "community". she's not grateful and doesn't deserve your help. by TinkaParker on 2006-11-22 14:47:40 This is the best show ever. (i say show lightly) I'm gonna be out of town for 3 days i hope i can get to a computer at some point or ill lose it. I'm so addicted. I'm also getting into OpAphid if anyone is into it let me know I would like morei info on it by Lisa on 2006-11-22 14:53:26 Yeah, where is Gemma. and by the way, she is hot. Hotter than Bree actually. Just putting it out there by Bones on 2006-11-22 14:53:39 omg daniel, don't you think that's a LITTLE SELFISH?? well, actually, bree too..grr confusing. by lyss_pizz on 2006-11-22 14:59:48 Since the upload video stuff doesnt work. Heres my Video Response... http://one.revver.com/watch/103130/format/flv/affiliate/0 by kratzlaff on 2006-11-22 15:15:39 GAY.GAY.GAY. by iliketoeatiamfat on 2006-11-22 15:41:22 298 lyss_pizz... i don't think it's selfish of daniel at all. remember, they're both teenagers, and they're both going through a somewhat traumatic time. daniel's pretty much given up his whole life (well, delaying it anyways) to protect bree, who isn't open with him about a lot of things that she probably should be for both of their safety. he probably wonders why she still feels allegience to an organization that kidnapped her parents and is now stalking her is basically the cause of her growing up in near isolation in the first place not to mention asking her to do a questionable "ceremony" that isn't explained, involving injections of an unknown substance on top of that, this organization has asked her to lie. on the other hand, bree is 16. her parents- the two people she's relied on her whole life and had almost exclusive exposure to. parents are also supposed to protect their children. these parents have been kidnapped. they can no longer protect her or give her comfort. her whole world is turning upside down. she believed and trusted in her religion and those associated, and now they might not be safe (actually, probably aren't) and maybe everything she's been lead to believe is wrong. daniel offered to help her. yes, he's gone above and beyond what "friends" normally are expected to do. but it was voluntary, and she doesn't know how to handle the real world. so she depends on him. she takes him a little for granted, but he did offer, and she has no one else to depend. so she expects his support, because he's the only one she can hope to support her right now. and everyone has their own way of expressing grief and stress. she cries if not every night, pretty often. we know this for daniel. when she posts, it's in a way that sort of shows her reverting to a time when she could depend things to be safe and sure, when her parents are around. the stuffed animals probably remind her of her parents, and it makes sense she uses them to think about other things, and try to be happy at least some of the time. or bored. because if you can complain about something small, like boredom, it takes your mind off being scared, alone, depressed. *shrug* and of course that would annoy daniel. because it looks like she's not taking things seriously and they haven't come up with any way to solve anything and he's probably the one watching and worrying about money. and he's 18. i'm not much older, and i recognize it would be extremely difficult to be thrown into such responsibilities and worries at that young age. he's supposed to be partying and having fun, and going to school right now. i started this off addressing this comment to lyss_pizz, but i guess it's not really. sorry, i'm not going on the warpath or anything. this is probably more of a general comment, and yours just was a springboard for me to discuss. i tried to talk about the video early this morning (at 3am) and for whatever reason only half of my comment was posted. that was discouraging. anyways. ok, got that talking out of my system. ;=) by cheesy-come-lately on 2006-11-22 15:47:52 i wrote much less in my original post... on a completely different subject but whatev. why did it only post half? i mean... half? why not just post or not post? i am confuzzled. by cheesy-come-lately on 2006-11-22 15:50:02 well i liked that video send more by brandtjoshua on 2006-11-22 15:52:30 OK this is more or less what i was saying this morning... although i think i said it better at 3am. with less words. which is weird. so... i think this video was really interesting. back before all the craziness, when it was a simpler lonelygirl15, bree and daniel communicated through videos ALL the time. this happened especially after her parents forbid her to see him anymore. that hasn’t been hapening lately, of course, because they are always together. and daniel has never really liked being >in front by cheesy-come-lately on 2006-11-22 16:05:33 GAH. it did it again. it's a conspiracy. i wonder if my computer has been drinking orange slurpees... ok. one more try. i think this video was really interesting. back before all the craziness, when it was a simpler lonelygirl15, bree and daniel communicated through videos ALL the time. this happened especially after her parents forbid her to see him anymore. that hasn’t been hapening lately, of course, because they are always together. and daniel has never really liked being *in front* of cameras, he's more of the editing type (he wants to be a film major, he said?) so all the storytelling has been limited to one perspective- which is probably why the gemma character was introduced (although she seems somewhat ineffectual). so with daniel getting angry they can now put a twist in the old form of somewhat conversation between daniel and bree using vlogs to let us be a part of the conversation. he's angry at bree, and giving her the 'silent treatment,' but he's still able to let her know WHY he's upset by telling us. it's a good strategy, and it brings more of the dialogue aspect back, rather than relying on the purely monologue type of vlogs we've been having a lot of lately. the tiff they are having allows us to know what daniel is thinking and worrying about as he discusses it on camera for us. otherwise he would have no initiative to talk to the camera- it's not in his character. i think it's cute. it reminds me of when two people get angry at each other and "aren't speaking" but they get so annoyed and frustrated with each other that they end up talking "through" a third party to let each other know what's going on. with daniel giving bree the silent treatment, we become the third party, and he can talk to her (and us) without having to actually talk to her. i think it's a clever device and realistic for their age.. i hope they stay at odds with each other at least a little while... i don't want daniel back in the shadows. i like his side of the story. his perspective is different from bree's do you think bree uses the stuffed animals as a third person sometimes? by cheesy-come-lately on 2006-11-22 16:07:05 ok. so maybe nobody reads this. but at least i got the darn thing to post. *fist at computer* by cheesy-come-lately on 2006-11-22 16:08:30 I too hope they keep Jonas out of the series. I don't like his character at all. If it's an attempt to get some pathetic 13 year old girls to lust after him and drive more site traffic I think it's lame. So from here on out I'm actually boycotting Jonas' videos. ANYONE WITH ME? by fantim on 2006-11-22 16:15:42 haha Cheesy I didn't read it. But I'm glad you got it to post by fantim on 2006-11-22 16:16:27 a) lipstick much b) niice facial hair bud c) ive now noticed the maturatiy level of Bree is wayy less than i once thought. (and that daniel gets pissed a lot) by xx_luvly on 2006-11-22 16:46:20 Hey, Daniel: STOP YOUR WHINING! Don't you care about Bree at all?? YOUR parents ARE NOT the one's who are missing! Don't you even CARE that Bree may be really scared? You're such a whiner! If you gave two flying f***s on a monkey, you would worry more about protecting her than your stupid classes! I hope the Watcher gets you. by Crystal_Chord on 2006-11-26 13:35:56 danielle...r u wearing makeup?lol by lalaxashleexlala on 2006-11-27 21:26:39 So moonpies posted again, so the posts under video 73 were not real for the game/show? by kassikicksass on 2006-12-01 19:11:55 pppssssssttttttt I'm last by Slainte on 2006-12-17 17:00:30 hes wearing lipstick by lemonhead314159 on 2007-02-23 14:49:52 is Daniel's hair lik nautrally blonde cuz hes go T has got blond in it like whoa wierd... by xo-hollie-ox on 2007-06-10 14:04:23 what did the note say? i have only seen up to this episode.. do you tell us what it says in one of the other episodes? by jessiebabe on 2007-08-08 14:31:41 y is daniel being so mean to bree. she didn't do anything to him by lazy_girl165 on 2007-08-24 22:28:26 Whoa, since when did DB get that goat? by mister_b1ll on 2008-02-16 18:00:36 Don't we all, Daniel. Shonder~ by fiddlefingers90 on 2008-03-13 07:30:53 @317 The goat? O-o? by exit on 2008-07-13 03:04:45 |